Re: simultaneous apache 1.3x 2.x

2004-08-29 Thread August Simonelli
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:20:04 +0100, Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to install squirrelmail, but it seems that PHP + apache 2 +
 squirrelmail doesn't go. I tried and although the install proceeds I get
   crashes in PHP.

I got apache2/courier-imap/php4/squirrelmail running ok on my FreeBSD
5.2.1 system. I did it all from ports and it seemed to work ok (just a
test system that has no real load and gets destroyed every few days
when I get an urge for something new - it's already gone as i write
this).

 
 PHP appears to deprecate apache 2 at present and looking at the

the lang/php4 port allowed me to set WITH_APACHE2=yes (I guess php5
would too ...) in make.conf and that made things happier.

sorry if this is way off ... it worked for me but i may have bumbled
into it  ...

august
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Re: Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

2004-08-25 Thread August Simonelli
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:32:19 +1000, August Simonelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:11:47 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  August,
 
  I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears
  to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post.
   did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh
   system) rebooted and logged in
  Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a
 
 This is what is confusing me about mergemaster. Isn't it just for
 comparing and deciding which config files one wants kept? That is, if
 I have a modifed pkgtools.conf or rc.conf or whatever I should be able
 to merge it up with the newly rebuilt system (which would have fresh
 versions of such files). Or I could just tell it to keep my old config
 files cause they have all my modifications. I do get that the new conf
 files may have changes we need, so merging is better. Now, why am i
 babbling about this? Cause when doing the mergemaster on this system
 my fingers got really fat and I'm not sure how I answered. Maybe this
 lead to my problem. Would that cause a) the wrong kernel to be
 installed or just b) the wrong kernel to be reported (ie did i screw
 up the update of the file that stores the kernel details?).
 
 Also, just for clarification, it WAS a fresh system, so, in theory,
 mergemaster would not have had any changes to make (except if it
 updates some text string somwhere that is the basis for the uname -v,
 as in my  and b options above).
 
 Sorry if this is painfully ignorant; I'm learning slowly! :-)
 
  fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't
  clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and
  accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other
  than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a
  copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to
  reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe.
 
 This seems to be what most people are saying ... and i think it makes
 more sense. I have officially adopted save4rebuild for my systems! :-)
 
 back to me rebuild (celeron 433 is a bit slw).

well, the rebuild has worked fine. i think my symlinking was indeed
messed up. i followed everyone's advice and didn't use a symlink; I
kept my custom config in the same location as GENERIC and just copied
it elsewhere for backup purposes.

one last question for those tracking the this thread: can i now delete
the custom kernel config file i created in /usr/src/sys/i386/src/ ? or
does the system need it there to boot? i would guess not, more that
the file is only used in building and installing ...

thanks again for all the good advice ...

august
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uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

2004-08-24 Thread August Simonelli
Hi all,

I recently did the following:

installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 from the iso
cvsup'd the source (using tag=RELENG_5_2)
followed section 19 of the handbook
followed section 8 for the kernel rebuild and did a custom kernel
(placing in /root/kernels and linking it, as per section 8.3)
everything went well
did a mergmaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh system)
rebooted and logged in
did uname -v and got the same output as before all the above (Feb
build date (5.2.1, right?), reference to GENERIC kernel not my custom
kernel - my search of the list archives tells me it should show the
local machine and a recent date in this output)

Do I need to update somewhere to tell the system to boot the new
kernel? If so, I totally missed that in the handbook (whoops).

This also leads me to ask how one best confirms the system has changed?

Thanks in advance for any help,

August
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Re: SCP

2004-08-24 Thread August Simonelli
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:28:23 +0200, Spidey Knepscheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guys
 
 I have to FreeBSD boxes next to each other and would like to copy a
 directory from the mail server to the firewall.I have root access to
 both the PC's.The directory on the mail server is /home/www/trafd and I
 would like to copy it to the fw to /usr/ports/net/ . Here is the command
 I tried :
 
 scp /home/www/trafd  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/trafd

I think it's more like this: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/remote/dir/*
/path/to/local/dir/

i'm still pretty new at this but if i'm not mistaken root can't login
remotely by default, so unless you've allowed that it'll fail.

hope this helps ...

august

 
 Please if someone can help
 
 Spidey
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

2004-08-24 Thread August Simonelli
  August
 
 What does your symlink look like?  So you put the newly built kernel in
 /root/kernels, then did something like?:
 
 # ln -s /root/kernels/mykernel /boot/kernel/kernel


I followed the example in 8.3:

# cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
# mkdir /root/kernels
# cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL   
# ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL

so now I have the following symlink:

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYCUSTOM - /root/kernels/MYCUSTOM

and I built and installed with that as my KERNCONF value. I do still
have GENERIC sitting in that directory. Does it use GENERIC first by
default?

Thanks again,

august
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Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

2004-08-24 Thread August Simonelli
 
 I apologize, when you said:
 
 ... did a custom kernel (placing in /root/kernels ...
 
 I took it too literally, thinking that for some odd reason you had put
 the actual built (binary) kernel into /root/kernels and were symlinking
 from /boot/kernel to that directory, as opposed to simply putting the
 kernel config file there.  However, is it just a typing mistake that you
 say you link to MYKERNEL, but you say the actual links points to

Nah, just me being sloppy in my syntax; I got the names right
(luckily) during the actual build (or did i ... interesting ...).

 MYCUSTOM?  Also, what does an `ls -l /boot/kernel/kernel` reveal?  Does
 the modification time coincide with the time you actually built your
 custom kernel?

94214 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  5940286 Feb 24  2004 /boot/kernel/kernel

So it's the old one ... now, this is good, because on my other test
system the kernel date is correct and uname -v is correct ... so, i've
done something wrong and am gonna try it again ... i'm doing it at
work and probably too distracted by my annoying users! :-)

thanks for you help ... wish me luck on my second attempt!

august
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Re: Re: uname -v shows no difference after buildkernel and installkernel etc

2004-08-24 Thread August Simonelli
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:11:47 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 August,
 
 I've been following this thread today. It's very interesting. It appears
 to me, you mentioned your mistake in your first post.
  did a mergemaster and didn't accept any changes (it was a fresh
  system) rebooted and logged in
 Without accepting those changes, you kept what you had. It wasn't a

This is what is confusing me about mergemaster. Isn't it just for
comparing and deciding which config files one wants kept? That is, if
I have a modifed pkgtools.conf or rc.conf or whatever I should be able
to merge it up with the newly rebuilt system (which would have fresh
versions of such files). Or I could just tell it to keep my old config
files cause they have all my modifications. I do get that the new conf
files may have changes we need, so merging is better. Now, why am i
babbling about this? Cause when doing the mergemaster on this system
my fingers got really fat and I'm not sure how I answered. Maybe this
lead to my problem. Would that cause a) the wrong kernel to be
installed or just b) the wrong kernel to be reported (ie did i screw
up the update of the file that stores the kernel details?).

Also, just for clarification, it WAS a fresh system, so, in theory,
mergemaster would not have had any changes to make (except if it
updates some text string somwhere that is the basis for the uname -v,
as in my  and b options above).

Sorry if this is painfully ignorant; I'm learning slowly! :-)

 fresh system and needed the information from mergemaster. If you didn't
 clear out /usr/obj, it might be possible to rerun mergemaster and
 accept the changes. I would keep MYCUSTOM somewhere other
 than /root/kernels. Personally, I use /home/save4rebuild, and keep a
 copy of everything else I think I might need. I've had to
 reinstall /, /var, /tmp, /usr, but I always manage to keep /home safe.

This seems to be what most people are saying ... and i think it makes
more sense. I have officially adopted save4rebuild for my systems! :-)

back to me rebuild (celeron 433 is a bit slw).

august
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named.conf question (controls statement being ignored)

2004-01-13 Thread August Simonelli
Hi all,

I've just installed bind9 from ports. I've got everything set up and 
the nameserver works except rndc. I've followed numerous instructions 
(bind howto, freebsd ezine) and still keep getting a strange error in 
my syslog. I won't post named.conf or rndc.conf yet as the error 
doesn't seem to point to them as being the problem. When i run 
/usr/sbin/named everything starts ok but i get:

/etc/namedb/named.conf:102: Ignoring BIND 9 inet control clause

in /var/log/messages

my controls statement in named.conf is:

controls {
inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { mykey; };
};
any thoughts?

august

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Re: /etc/rc.conf vs /etc/defaults/rc.conf

2004-01-13 Thread August Simonelli
On 13/01/2004, at 12:43 PM, Ted Suzman wrote:

Stuff you put in rc.conf overrides settings in /etc/defaults/rc.conf

Never modify /etc/defaults/rc.conf

-Original Message-
From: August Simonelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: /etc/rc.conf vs /etc/defaults/rc.conf
Hi all,

I've looked in the handbook (and probably missed the explanation) but 
am still a little confused. What's the difference between
these two rc.conf files? Both affect things, but what is best practice 
for their use?

Thank in advance,

August

PS I'm using 4.9 and realize some things may be differnet in 5.x ...
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Thanks all who helped me on this! I really do appreciate it!

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/etc/rc.conf vs /etc/defaults/rc.conf

2004-01-12 Thread August Simonelli
Hi all,

I've looked in the handbook (and probably missed the explanation) but am
still a little confused. What's the difference between these two rc.conf
files? Both affect things, but what is best practice for their use?

Thank in advance,

August

PS I'm using 4.9 and realize some things may be differnet in 5.x ...
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Re: ports confusion - are they configurable like I want?

2004-01-07 Thread August Simonelli
 hi,

 I build my apache from source and it runs wonderful on fbsd 5.1.
 Now I tried to do the same with the fbsd apache-port but I
 have no idea how to install the port with the same(exact) configuration
 arguments I used for my source build:

 ./configure --enable-layout=xyz --enable-file-cache --enable-cache
 --enable-deflate \
 --enable-proxy --enable-bucketeer --enable-module=so --with-mpm=worker \
 --enable-mods-shared=all --enable-logio --enable-ssl=shared
 --with-ssl-dir=/usr/local/ssl

 I realized the knobs an CONFIGURE_ARGS in Makefile but I still don't
 know how
 to proceed... I found many hints about this but nobody shows any
 samples.

 thanks for help.
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Hi Zoran,

I've just asked a similar question on this list and got some great
answers; have a look at the thread here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-January/031152.html

hope this helps,

august

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changing configure options when using a port

2004-01-06 Thread August Simonelli
Hi all,

I'm slowly getting used to FreeBSD from a Linux background so forgive 
the ignorant questions.

I'm curious what the best way to add configure options are when 
installing from a port. For example, i'd like to add --enable-rewrite 
to apache2. Can I just put it in the Makefile in /usr/ports/www/apache2 
? Is this generally the best way to do this?

Thanks in advance,

August

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Re: changing configure options when using a port

2004-01-06 Thread August Simonelli
Ok that makes sense.

So something like

make --enable-rewrite
make install clean
would do the trick?

As well as make WITH_MODULES=include rewrite auth install clean as 
suggested by Gautam Gopalakrishnan?

august

On 06/01/2004, at 11:13 PM, Subhro wrote:

Hi August,

System wide make options are added to the /etc/make.conf. However for
specific ports I prefer to put the required options on the command line
while compiling.
Regards
Subhro
Subhro Sankha Kar
Indian Institute of Information Technology
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
India
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Simonelli
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Subject: changing configure options when using a port

Hi all,

I'm slowly getting used to FreeBSD from a Linux background so forgive
the ignorant questions.
I'm curious what the best way to add configure options are when
installing from a port. For example, i'd like to add --enable-rewrite
to apache2. Can I just put it in the Makefile in /usr/ports/www/apache2
? Is this generally the best way to do this?
Thanks in advance,

August

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Re: changing configure options when using a port

2004-01-06 Thread August Simonelli
On 06/01/2004, at 11:52 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:

On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:33:49PM +1100, August Simonelli wrote:

I'm slowly getting used to FreeBSD from a Linux background so forgive
the ignorant questions.
I'm curious what the best way to add configure options are when
installing from a port. For example, i'd like to add --enable-rewrite
to apache2. Can I just put it in the Makefile in 
/usr/ports/www/apache2
? Is this generally the best way to do this?
The apache2 port Makefile already comes with any number of hooks for
enabling or disabling various configuration options -- probably too
many in fact.
In your case, to enable mod_rewrite you don't need to do anything, as
it's already a standard part of the apache2 port, and enabled by
default in the sample httpd-std.conf file.  To get a list of what
modules are available and what would be included when you build the
port, use:
# cd /usr/ports/www/apache2
# make show-modules
However, for the sake of completelness, you can compile the port to
include extra modules by:
# make WITH_EXTRA_MODULES=rewrite

or to statically link mod_rewrite into the apache binary:

# make WITH_STATIC_MODULES=rewrite

To apply these options without having to remember to type them in on
the command line all the time, you can create a 'Makefile.inc' in the
port directory which just contains the 'WITH_FOO=bar' variable
assignments, or you can use portupgrade(1) and record these
customizations in it's pkgtools.conf configuration file.


Ok, I get it. And  by having  --enable-so in the apache port's Makefile 
 and using the LoadModule directive in httpd.conf i can see how many 
modules are actually available from the port bt default. wow. 
httpd.conf has a lot of stuff enabled ... sounds like i've got the info 
i need here to understand adding additional configure options to the 
building of a port. now it sounds like i'd better do some reading on 
apache!

thanks everyone!

august

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Re: acessing ports from behind firewall

2004-01-05 Thread August Simonelli
On 06/01/2004, at 2:00 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:

On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 05:06:30PM +1100, August Simonelli wrote:

I'm trying to access the ports collection from my FreeBSD 4.9 server
running behind my firewall (Astaro, www.astaro.org). Whenever I run  
the
make install command (or even just try to fetch for ftp) it just times
out. A netstat -an shows:

192.168.1.2.1074   208.209.50.18.21   SYN_SENT

which means I know am i getting name resolution and to the server,  
but ...
Does it always stick at SYN_SENT? You aren't even getting as far as
the three-way handshake if not.  You really should be able to
establish the FTP command channel to port 21 the FTP server, as that's
just an ordinary outgoing tcp connection. At the moment it appears
that the first ACK from the server isn't making it back to your client
box, or maybe that your outgoing SYN packet isn't even making it to
I think you were right ... i tested access to same the ftp site from  
another machine on my network and bingo, went straight through. This  
made me review the rules on my firewall. And there it was ... my  
masquerading for my dmz was wrong. I was telling the remote server to  
respond to 192.168.1.1! Doh! Silly mistake, but look at the awesome  
responses i got from the list! I've learned more from my silly mistake  
than I thought! :-)

the server. The active/passive stuff can't be the problem as that only
kicks in later on, when you try and open the FTP data channel.
I didn't realize that and sort of just assumed cause that's what I'd  
always heard about. oops.

Can you run tcpdump(1) on the external interface of your firewall to
see if the traffic actually gets out of your system, and if any sort
of packet comes back?
Can you connect onto other FTP servers elsewhere around the world?

Is this a problem with passive ftp? does anybody have any suggestions  
on
how to get around this behind a masq'ing firewall that uses NAT? I  
tried
opening all access to the server thru the firewall but it still fails.
I think the problem is occurring at the TCP level, well before anything
that would make a difference depending on whether you're running
active or passive FTP.
However, in case it is actually a problem at the FTP protocol level:
take a look at the -punch_fw option to natd(8) -- that's what you need
in order to get a FTP session going across a NAT'ing firewall.  That's
assuming that your firewall is running FreeBSD/ipwf/natd.  I wrote a
piece describing what goes on during an FTP session that you might
find useful for setting up firewall rules.  See
 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2003-August/ 
000574.html
Yes! Yes! That's really good. Thanks for pointing me that way ... my  
firewall is a dedicated box called Astaro, which is a linux-y thing.  
It's great, but this is piqueing my interest to build my own firewall.

I'm off to play with tcpdump ... should done that in the first place as  
well! So much to learn!

Thanks again!

august

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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acessing ports from behind firewall

2004-01-04 Thread August Simonelli
Hi all,

I'm trying to access the ports collection from my FreeBSD 4.9 server
running behind my firewall (Astaro, www.astaro.org). Whenever I run the
make install command (or even just try to fetch for ftp) it just times
out. A netstat -an shows:

192.168.1.2.1074   208.209.50.18.21   SYN_SENT

which means I know am i getting name resolution and to the server, but ...

Is this a problem with passive ftp? does anybody have any suggestions on
how to get around this behind a masq'ing firewall that uses NAT? I tried
opening all access to the server thru the firewall but it still fails.

Any thoughts? i'm new to all this so be nice! :-)

Thanks,

August
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5.2 ISO won't boot

2004-01-03 Thread August Simonelli
Hi all,

I've had some trouble with booting from the 5.2 ISO I downloaded. Some
background (long-winded, but bear with me):
I downloaded 5.2RC2 disk1 and 5.2RC2 disk2 with Firebird on Red Hat 9. 
All
seemed well. I scp'd those files to my Mac (Panther) and created dmg's 
and
burned them to a CD. All looked well. I then tried to boot from the CD 
but
it didn't work. I made sure all BIOS settings were set to boot from CD
first. I tested with a WinXP install CD and it could boot from cd. I 
tried
the FreeBSD cd on another machine and it failed as well (windows 
worked).

Assuming I had messed up the burning I tried burning on windows with 
Nero.
All looked well, but same result. Finally, I downloaded the mini-5.2RC2
iso thingy with IE on WinXP and burned it with nero and voila I could 
boot
off the cd rom. I then downloaded 4.9 on my Mac and created
a working bootable disk from the ISO with no problem.

So, my question is: did downloading the 5.2RC2 ISO on Linux mess it up
(ascii vs binary maybe - would that give the behavior I described? I 
think i read that somewhere). Maybe
the scp killed it? Is 4.9 different than 5.2? (i read something 
somewhere
about emulated el torito vs real el toritos, or something like that, 
which I don't understand).

Any insight would be greatly appreciated ...I'm good to go with 4.9 but 
still curious how I messed the 5.2 download up!

thanks,

august

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