Re: How stable is FreeBSD WiFi support?

2008-10-03 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 13:11 -0700, Yuri wrote:
 I have FreeBSD-70 machine and Linux Gentoo machines side by side (within 
 10 feet).
 Gentoo Linux (with old AirLink101) connects to a particular encrypted 
 WEP network without any problems all the time.
 FreeBSD (with ral0 device and native driver) connection is very 
 unstable, keeps disappearing, though network card shows signal level as 
 -90:-95.
 dhclient fails to set up the card, often dhclient succeeds but all name 
 lookups fails. When internet connection is established all TCP 
 connections get dropped after 10-20 minutes or less.
 
 I feel like I hit some bug in FreeBSD WiFi networking support.
 
 Anyone has similar experience?
 Yuri

Yeah I had similar troubles on a laptop with an intel wifi (6.1 + 6.2).
I posted something about a week or two back, but I didn't get any
response here. Not sure where to go from here though, as I'm having
similar troubles with the ral driver too (desktop- 6.3).

Seems to be wpa supplicant from my troubleshooting. If I manually
reassociated with the iwi it was ok, but didn't hold out- I was going to
setup a script to run a check and do this. The ral driver works if I set
it auto, but wpa supplicant will only work in manual mode. Catch 22 on
that one...

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Re: exporting/exposing directory over the Internet?

2008-10-03 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 00:18 +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
 Use SFTP (aka SSH file sharing) and mount the folder's using SftpDrive on
 Windows and various tools are available for doing that under UNIX.

Wouldn't an ssl version of webdav do the same sort of thing without all
the extra hassle in (heaven forbid) window$? I think there is a network
folder system that can access webdav on the M$ crap, and I believe there
is a webdavs in the apache modules. Correct me if I'm wrong...

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-02 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:18 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
 On Thursday 02 October 2008 01:59:18 Da Rock wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:53 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:39:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   
So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it
in rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.
  
   Yes, you can.  Use forcestart/forcestop instead of start/stop when
   running the rc script if you do not have it enabled in rc.conf.  This is
   documented in rc(8) (and is very easily overlooked if you don't know what
   you are looking for.)
 
  Well thank you both for that piece of information, I had overlooked
  that. I did end up using it that way, but I was still unaware that it
  was mandatory.
 
 The problem with forcestart is that it ignores any errors that may occur. The 
 better option for a manual start is onestart, which simply bypasses the test 
 for the option being enabled but still fails on any other error (missing 
 dependencies, startup problems etc).
 
 Jonathan

Well that might be more useful (and best practice)...

Cheers for the heads up guys

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Re: Realtek 8111C?

2008-10-02 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 12:01 +0200, Popof Popof wrote:
 I hav a mobo with the same NIC, I use it on a FreeNAS box that's runing a
 version based on FreeBSD 6.3.
 In order to make the NIC work i had to compile the drivers from realtek with
 an other FreeBSD box and load the module on startup.
 But data transfer from / to my FreeNAS box are slow.
 
 Anyone had the same problem with this NIC / Realtek drivers?
 Did someone used the drivers from FreeBSD 7.1 with (or without) FreeNAS ?
 Does the transfer speed are correct ?
 
 2008/10/1 cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I thought that mine might be slow, but I couldn't be sure as its pretty
weak hardware anyway. Might be worth some investigation.

(I'm running 6.2 and 6.3)

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Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC

2008-10-02 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 07:26 -0400, Jerry wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:26 -0800
 Henrik Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a missive
 stating: 
  On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST)
 
  Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD
   specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of
   funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected
   revenue from such an expenditure.
  
  giving out a specs will be the simplest way.
 
  Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their
  investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something,
  thereby depriving their shareholders, partners or whatever, of their
  rightfully expected monetary reward is foolish. It certainly is not a
  well thought out  business model.
 
 There is a difference between open sourcing the binary blob and
 possibly giving away optimizations, trade secrets, etc... and allowing
 easier access to either hardware register specs or specs to write a
 wrapper around a universal blob.
 
 Personally, I think they see it as a quality control issue, though
 the quality of their own code is sometimes circumspect. The card
 companies sell hardware and this is where their money is made and/or a
 better experience with the software drivers. Open the hardware spec,
 add a support clause that any open source drivers aren't officially
 supported and you're good to go.
 
 Unfortunately, that is not a legally binding disclaimer in many
 locales. It is equivalent to wearing a T-Shirt with Touch me and I'll
 kill you embroidered on it. If someone touches you and you kill them
 you cannot then claim that they were fore warned. That is from an
 actual lecture I receive in a business class.
 
 Opening the hardware spec will do nothing except sell more hardware.
 
 Unproven and if it were in factually correct, more businesses would
 make use of it.
 
 a) the average joe will continue to buy systems with the supported
 hardware / drivers, most likely Windows, OS X or a major Linux distro.
 Probably wouldn't even know the open source ones exist.
 
 A bit naive in my personal opinion. The overwhelming majority of users
 that I am acquainted with and many of them are college students, buy
 what ever works best for them with the least amount of user
 intervention. The  majority of users that I am familiar with do not
 want to spent valuable time attempting to configure a PC; they have
 better things to do. How many discussions have we had on this forum
 regarding the lack of a functional 'Flash' plug-in for web browsing,
 etc. Until problems like that are solved, expanding the base for FBSD
 is a touch uphill climb.
 
 b) the geeks of the world will start running the open source driver if
 it's better or not if it's worse for their applications. Either way,
 it will only sell more hardware.
 
 Again, unproven.
 
 c) The FOSS only crowd will start using the hardware since it has a
 fully open source drivers.
 
 The open source driver doesn't need to be able to run Doom5 at
 incredible speeds, it just needs high quality 2d and the ability to
 handle some 3d compositing, etc... for desktop effects.
 
 Sorry; however, I totally disagree. A half-ass driver is akin to being
 slightly pregnant. You are either pregnant or you are not. A driver is
 either fully functional, or it is broken. To make arbitrary limits on
 what it should and should not be able to do is absurd. If I want to
 play a game, and your half-ass driver will not run it, then that driver
 is as useless as 'Tits on a bull'. It either works, or it doesn't. Too
 many people today accept inferior products/performance under just the
 guise you are employing.
 
 My .02$
 
 Henrik
 
 Again, it appears that NVIDIA has attempted to work with the FBSD
 community. Evidently, nothing has come of it. Unfortunate, to say the
 least.

I apologise for jumping into this thread mid way, but wouldn't the
problem be simply a case of nil NDA? If an FOSS programmer signed an NDA
with say NVidia, then wouldn't the hardware supplier be more willing to
supply more specific details?

Anyone with experience in the legalities here?

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
 script?
 
 I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
 technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
 the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
 setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
 manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
 than a little frustrated.
 
 Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
 time too...
 
 For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
 point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).

Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
versions (all 6.x).

Is it just me?

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
 Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 
  Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
  script?
  
  I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
  technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
  the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
  setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
  manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
  than a little frustrated.
  
  Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
  time too...
  
  For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
  point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).
 
  Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
  trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
  these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
  versions (all 6.x).
 
  Is it just me?
 
 Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
 daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
 you may look at the script you are trying to start.

So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in
rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.

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Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually

2008-10-01 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:53 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:39:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  
  On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
   Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   
Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
script?

I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets 
up
the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be 
more
than a little frustrated.

Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
time too...

For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).
   
Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm
trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of
these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd
versions (all 6.x).
   
Is it just me?
   
   Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an
   daemon_enable=YES at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info
   you may look at the script you are trying to start.
  
  So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in
  rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be
  started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup-
  based on my reading in the handbook and man pages.
 
 Yes, you can.  Use forcestart/forcestop instead of start/stop when running
 the rc script if you do not have it enabled in rc.conf.  This is documented
 in rc(8) (and is very easily overlooked if you don't know what you are
 looking for.)

Well thank you both for that piece of information, I had overlooked
that. I did end up using it that way, but I was still unaware that it
was mandatory.

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mysql rc script failure

2008-09-30 Thread Da Rock
Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc
script?

I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and
technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up
the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the
setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup
manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more
than a little frustrated.

Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last
time too...

For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this
point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't).

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Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters

2008-09-26 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 08:24 -0400, George Fazio wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 20:53 -0400, George Fazio wrote:

  Da Rock wrote:
  
  Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a
  postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm
  using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which
  retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual
  workstations (which is what happens currently).


  When you say courier-imap client, do you mean you're using maildrop to 
  deliver the message to the user's maildir or that there is an end-user 
  courier-imap client?  I am only familiar with the maildrop piece of 
  courier.
  
  I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account
  for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but
  it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on
  Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so:
  1. what does it take to write one?
  2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it
  possible?
 


  This is a classic case of over engineering.  You do not want to bcc back 
  to the user, or filter the mta, just move the outgoing messages to the 
  sent folder.  You might need bcc for the purposes of journaling all 
  email, if you have any legal requirement (sox, hippa, etc.) that require 
  it.  But, that it another ball of wax entirely.
  
  This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages
  to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue.
 


  If the end-user's client is using imap and configured properly, it 
  should do this for you.  Thurderbird, the full version of Outlook (and 
  probably Express), and many other clients support this natively - you 
  just have to make sure the client is configured to do that.  Typically, 
  in the configuration of the client, there is something that says 
  something like save a copy of sent messages to folder of choice.  I 
  don't know what client you're using.  I use Pine/Alpine, Thunderbird, 
  and Outlook (when I have no other choice).
 
  If the end-user's client is using pop, then you have a problem that may 
  require a custom solution like you speak of above.
  
  Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to
  do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would
  be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me
  how it works :) ).
 
  Cheers
 


  My mail system is running postfix (mta) w/ dovecot (for imap or pop 
  access from the clients), maildrop (for delivering to a maildir), and 
  amavis-new (for spam filtering and virus scanning w/ clamav).  My mail 
  clients are configured for imap, and they save copies of sent mail to 
  the sent folder as expected.  While I am using dovecot, and not courier, 
  for my imap server - I cannot imagine that any other imap server would 
  handle things any differently ... it's core functionality that ever imap 
  server should have imho.
 
  -George
 
  
 
  Me too. It may be possible to save a copy in evolution, but I haven't
  found it in all clients. Plus my system needs to be suitable for a
  webmail system, and yes some pop clients.
 
  You sound like you know maildrop very well, I was considering using it
  as a part of the solution. If I wrote a milter script for postfix, is it
  possible to pass the message to maildrop so that it can take care of the
  formalities such as filenames and formats and tell it to put it in a
  sent folder? Something like a shell or perl script that uses this line
  to run maildrop:
 
  maildrop -d $user Maildir/.Sent
 
  Obviously the message itself will be piped, and the $user will be
  obtained by copying the from field in the message.
 
  Would something like this work? I've been searching on google but
  haven't found a clear answer, they only mention using maildrop filters
  and commands there- not actual usage of the maildrop cli.
 
  Cheers
 

 If you wrote a filter for postfix, which I have no idea how to do, the 
 maildrop command you sight looks good.
 
 A friend of mine is using round cube for web mail (I don't have webmail 
 setup on my server), and it will also save a copy to the sent folder.  
 Most of the web clients should provide this functionality.  The pop 
 clients are the ones that are going to be an issue.
 
 I'm not sure what Google is using for gmail.  But, when I send a message 
 using their smtp service, a copy goes into my account.  So, what you're 
 looking to do is obviously possible, but I do not have an experience 
 with it as I have not had need for a solution yet.  I would certainly be 
 interested in what you come up with though.
 
 Another possible option is to configure the clients to always bcc the 
 sender, and then write a maildrop rule.  Something

Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters

2008-09-23 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 08:24 -0400, George Fazio wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 20:53 -0400, George Fazio wrote:

  Da Rock wrote:
  
  Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a
  postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm
  using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which
  retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual
  workstations (which is what happens currently).


  When you say courier-imap client, do you mean you're using maildrop to 
  deliver the message to the user's maildir or that there is an end-user 
  courier-imap client?  I am only familiar with the maildrop piece of 
  courier.
  
  I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account
  for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but
  it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on
  Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so:
  1. what does it take to write one?
  2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it
  possible?
 


  This is a classic case of over engineering.  You do not want to bcc back 
  to the user, or filter the mta, just move the outgoing messages to the 
  sent folder.  You might need bcc for the purposes of journaling all 
  email, if you have any legal requirement (sox, hippa, etc.) that require 
  it.  But, that it another ball of wax entirely.
  
  This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages
  to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue.
 


  If the end-user's client is using imap and configured properly, it 
  should do this for you.  Thurderbird, the full version of Outlook (and 
  probably Express), and many other clients support this natively - you 
  just have to make sure the client is configured to do that.  Typically, 
  in the configuration of the client, there is something that says 
  something like save a copy of sent messages to folder of choice.  I 
  don't know what client you're using.  I use Pine/Alpine, Thunderbird, 
  and Outlook (when I have no other choice).
 
  If the end-user's client is using pop, then you have a problem that may 
  require a custom solution like you speak of above.
  
  Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to
  do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would
  be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me
  how it works :) ).
 
  Cheers
 


  My mail system is running postfix (mta) w/ dovecot (for imap or pop 
  access from the clients), maildrop (for delivering to a maildir), and 
  amavis-new (for spam filtering and virus scanning w/ clamav).  My mail 
  clients are configured for imap, and they save copies of sent mail to 
  the sent folder as expected.  While I am using dovecot, and not courier, 
  for my imap server - I cannot imagine that any other imap server would 
  handle things any differently ... it's core functionality that ever imap 
  server should have imho.
 
  -George
 
  
 
  Me too. It may be possible to save a copy in evolution, but I haven't
  found it in all clients. Plus my system needs to be suitable for a
  webmail system, and yes some pop clients.
 
  You sound like you know maildrop very well, I was considering using it
  as a part of the solution. If I wrote a milter script for postfix, is it
  possible to pass the message to maildrop so that it can take care of the
  formalities such as filenames and formats and tell it to put it in a
  sent folder? Something like a shell or perl script that uses this line
  to run maildrop:
 
  maildrop -d $user Maildir/.Sent
 
  Obviously the message itself will be piped, and the $user will be
  obtained by copying the from field in the message.
 
  Would something like this work? I've been searching on google but
  haven't found a clear answer, they only mention using maildrop filters
  and commands there- not actual usage of the maildrop cli.
 
  Cheers
 

 If you wrote a filter for postfix, which I have no idea how to do, the 
 maildrop command you sight looks good.
 
 A friend of mine is using round cube for web mail (I don't have webmail 
 setup on my server), and it will also save a copy to the sent folder.  
 Most of the web clients should provide this functionality.  The pop 
 clients are the ones that are going to be an issue.
 
 I'm not sure what Google is using for gmail.  But, when I send a message 
 using their smtp service, a copy goes into my account.  So, what you're 
 looking to do is obviously possible, but I do not have an experience 
 with it as I have not had need for a solution yet.  I would certainly be 
 interested in what you come up with though.
 
 Another possible option is to configure the clients to always bcc the 
 sender, and then write a maildrop rule.  Something

Re: Server - Linux Compat

2008-09-23 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:38 -0400, Grant Peel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 When I was young, many many moons ago, and I installed FreeBSD 4.4 for the 
 first time, I enabled linux compatability ...
 
 Each build since, I have enabled it ...
 
 So not I am at the point of asking myself why?
 
 All I run is webservers and namesrvers, you know, Bind, Apache, Mysql, 
 vmpop3d, PHP, Exim and shh...not to mention a few utils, ipa, ipfw etc.
 
 Does anyone have any compelling reason I should continue to enable linux 
 compatability?
 
 Are there any pitfalls (Security, Performance) in doing so?

I've done the same myself for a long time, but now I just do minimal
installs and go from there after having numerous issues with
incompatible packages rather than ports.

I can't see any security issues in not having it, in fact isn't there a
principle for security in the less software the less holes to get
through? Linux compat is only installed if you install a port that
requires it to operate, so it would seem that a lot of servers wouldn't
necessarily use it. Its mostly a desktop thing for some of the more
difficult to port (or legal issue) software that users specifically
want.

Cheers

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Re: ipv6

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 09:18 +, beni wrote:
 On Saturday 20 September 2008 23:13:33 David Horn wrote:
  On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, beni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have a question about IPv6.
   I installed /net/freenet6 and edited the /usr/local/etc/gw6c.conf file
   with the login and password given by Go6.net.
   I added freenet6_enable=YES, ipv6_enable=YES and
   ipv6_network_interfaces=vr0 tun0 to my /etc/rc.conf.
   An ifconfig shows this :
   bsdaddict# ifconfig vr0
   vr0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
  options=2808VLAN_MTU,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MAGIC
  ether 00:0c:76:c2:2c:b7
  inet6 fe80::20c:76ff:fec2:2cb7%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
  inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
  status: active
   bsdaddict#
   So I think the installation of ipv6 is ok : surfing to
   http://go6.net/4105/freenet.asp says You are using IPv6 from  But
   in X-chat, when connecting to Freenode p.ex., I get this :
  
FreebsdBeni n=FreeBSD 213.219.143.49.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net :You are now
   logged in. (id FreebsdBeni, username n=FreeBSD, hostname
   213.219.143.49.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net)
 
  Even if you have properly setup/configured a tunnel to provide IPv6,
  does not mean that IPv4 goes away.  You are running in dual stack mode
  (both IPv4, and IPv6 active)  You may want to read up a little bit on
  IPv6 details and background in the FreeBSD handbook
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html
 
  and in the go6.net wiki (among lots of other good IPv6 articles.
  Google is your friend here.)
 
  http://wiki.go6.net/index.php?title=IPv6_transition_mechanisms
 
  Most applications that are IPv6 aware will default to using IPv6 if
  everything is setup properly.  This includes giving an IPv6 capable
  DNS name to your IRC client. (ipv6.chat.us.freenode.net and
  ipv6.chat.eu.freenode.net are a few that are IPv6)
 
  I'm not much of an IRC user myself, but I see that several of the
  ports of xchat are IPv6 enabled.  You did not specify what version of
  Xchat you are using, so I can't comment further there.  Make sure you
  are using a version of xchat that supports IPv6, and that you are
  using the appropriate IPv6 freenode DNS name.
 
  You can also find a listing of IPv6 capable application ports over on
  http://www.freshports.org/ipv6/
 
   And that is not a ipv6 address. So what am I missing here ? Is it my
   config or is my isp converting my ipv6 back to ipv4 ?
 
  It is your config.  An ISP can not really automagically change you
  from IPv6 to IPv4 when you have a tunnel active.  You do not provide
  an ifconfig for your tunnel interface (tun0), so it is hard to tell
  what your configuration looks like.
 
  Can you ping6 the site in question ? (ie:  ping6 ipv6.chat.us.freenode.net)
 
   Thanks for any hints on this.
   --
   Beni.
 
 
 It seems that I was, indeed using the wrong server to connect me to : 
 the normal IPv6 instead of the ipv6-servers (the ping6 works). So now all 
 seems ok.
 Didn't know about those IPv6 capable application port on Freshports though. 
 Will definitely check those, thanks for the link and your explications !
 

Excuse me for jumping in on this thread, I'm only just starting to look
into IPv6 for myself.

My ISP has informed me that it doesn't support IPv6 yet, and won't for
some time. I have a DNS server and sites on IPv4, but I'd like to be
able to support IPv6- does the fact that my ISP doesn't support it stop
me from serving on IPv6? I'd think it does, but some clarity from
experts might help...

Cheers

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Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock
Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a
postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm
using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which
retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual
workstations (which is what happens currently).

I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account
for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but
it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on
Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so:
1. what does it take to write one?
2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it
possible?

This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages
to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue.

Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to
do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would
be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me
how it works :) ).

Cheers

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Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:47 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
 Hi,
 
  2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it
  possible?
 
 This is as simple as copying the file, that's the great beauty of
 maildir.

That is just one aspect of this task I have, but if I have postfix
configured to use maildir inboxes does this mean the queue is maildir?
Is a simple copy possible for this case?

I've only just considered this possibility- thanks for the quick
reply...

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Re: Audio Production

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 11:50 +0200, marshc wrote:
 
  I've just been following this thread and have remained silent until now,
  but the linux kernel from my experience is nowhere near as stable or as
  fast as the freebsd kernel. Another cool feature is you can build your
  own kernel, stripping out anything unnecessary and including any
  optimisations that you think will help.

 Well thanks, because this was part of my original question. All I know
 is that you can modify GENERIC for a custom kernel and i can remove what 
 hardware
 i don't need there, and add ext3fs and vesa, and was asking whether 
 there were other settings
 elsewhere to tweak, but i am begining to think it would involve diving 
 into the actual kernel
 source code, and other such sinister hacking. I'm using studio64 now and 
 will eventually research
 a little what it involves, but i had just asked here to  find out if 
 there were any similar project or groups
 doing that sort of stuff on fbsd.
 
 so at this point all i can ask is, are there other more in depth 
 settings somewhere? or should i forget about it?
 i have almost concluded it is the latter.
 

My only advice on this point is to subscribe to the multimedia list and
ask your questions there (I'll be watching this list too, have been for
some time now due to my htpc issues- I desperately want to use FreeBSD
for a/v, and I suffer the same issues you do in terms of multitasking in
the cpu level, but the main problem with BSD for me is the driver
problems).


  I think jack is still possible on freebsd too (correct me if I'm wrong),
  so all in all I think your latency will not be as much of a problem on
  bsd as it was on linux.
 

 jack is available on fsbd, yes. on my earlier post however, i was 
 rushing  a reply before
 going out and was trying to cover too much at once, and don't think i 
 explained myself properly.
 I was trying to recap on my original question and explain the whole 
 purpose of what i was looking for, since i still am not
 entirely clear till now. I was also trying to explain some basic areas, 
 thinking maybe it would also reach some _NON_-audio consious,
 fsbd expert that might have some ideas, shed some light and point in the 
 some direction.
 
 I mean i am not really a latency freak, and not my main concern. It is 
 an unavoidable factor in audio production,
 something you live with and can manage on way or the other, and i was 
 mentioning it trying to get to the big picture.
 That is , more or less, that latency is an issue, but you can work with, 
 and what you really want is a computer that is
 basically always ready for your orders and request, individed and at the 
 drop of a dime -  play this out there. that out that,
 record this part, write it to disk, mix that i don't care how, just 
 do it and don't interrupt me.
 
  I'm only just getting into this area myself, but I've been using freebsd
  for a while now and I'm extremely happy with it (bar some driver issues,
  particularly in multimedia- tv cards, etc- which may be rectified
  natively very soon, or using the linux support in the kernel). The
  multimedia list will be very helpful to you I'd say, and swapping notes
  is always good.
 
  Good luck.
 

 I am very new outside windows and been on holidays spending alot of time 
 getting familiar with freebsd as an OS, not audio,
 but it is an issue eventually. I wanted to know if it worth investing my time 
 in it with those future plans in sight, or if i should make
 like a band aid and settle on ubuntu studio64 now.
 
 Like you mentioned, i was very happy with it as an os, but i had some basic 
 performance issues and couldn't make out why. I am pretty sure it was due to
 my setup and lack of knowledge, basic settings/configs somewhere, but wanted 
 to know if fbsd could be further optimized with those issues solved. 
 
 
 dunno, this is ubuntu studio64 now and i have come to like it very mucch. it 
 is well build; but think i would switch to fbsd at the drop of a hat given 
 the choice.
 I respect the fact that most pro/long time users of fbsd would be 
 network/server oriented, and you can't match fbsd there, but i also think the 
 bigger the community, the more likely new faces, new groups, new projects.
 
 p.s.
 i haven't used jack much yet, but have known about it for a while, and going 
 on specs and capabilities, it should be the better system. It is like windows 
 ASIO and Rewire into one package. From what i heard it can route any signal 
 between any running audio program, even if they are not normally aware of 
 eachother, or build with that capability.
 

I don't know about other projects as such, FreeBSD runs under a
different kind of protocol than the linux kernel in terms of
development, but as I mentioned use the multimedia list and you'll find
more geeks like us who understand and know what we're talking about and
need.

From my experience (and I use FreeBSD for many different needs), FreeBSD
can 

Re: ipv6

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 08:25 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
 
  Excuse me for jumping in on this thread, I'm only just starting to look
  into IPv6 for myself.
  
  My ISP has informed me that it doesn't support IPv6 yet, and won't for
  some time. I have a DNS server and sites on IPv4, but I'd like to be
  able to support IPv6- does the fact that my ISP doesn't support it stop
  me from serving on IPv6? I'd think it does, but some clarity from
  experts might help...
 
 If you only need IPv6 essentially for testing (ie. low bandwidth
 requirements  no SLA), then I can provide you a tunnel into our
 network, and provide you with as much IPv6 space to play with as you like.
 
 You will need a router (Cisco, FreeBSD, Juniper etc) at your edge in
 order to establish an IPv6IP tunnel to one of my routers.
 
 Email me off-list if you are interested in further details.
 
 BTW, to answer your question, no... even if your ISP is not IPv6
 compliant, that does not stop you from implementing IPv6 on your public
 servers.

Well, thats interesting on both counts. To the first, I don't have the
hardware yet, but I was making some investigations to explore what I
should be getting to implement IPv6.

To the second, can you recommend any material on how this is possible? I
have a pretty good knowledge of IPv4, but I haven't had the chance to
look at IPv6 yet. That said, from what I do know I wasn't sure about the
routing and how my ISP was going to forward the packets. And from my
understanding, IPv6 is going to be a whole lot more fun than the
previous era... :)

Thanks again for clearing that up.

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Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 19:18 +0200, Mel wrote:
 On Monday 22 September 2008 10:29:36 Da Rock wrote:
  Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a
  postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm
  using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which
  retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual
  workstations (which is what happens currently).
 
 Just so I'm clear, postfix will deliver all mail? If so:
 always_bcc (default: empty)
 
 Optional address that receives a blind carbon copy of each message that 
 is received by the Postfix mail system.
 
 Note: if mail to the BCC address bounces it will be returned to the 
 sender.
 
 Note: automatic BCC recipients are produced only for new mail. To avoid 
 mailer loops, automatic BCC recipients are not generated for mail that 
 Postfix forwards internally, nor for mail that Postfix generates itself.
 
 recipient_bcc_maps (default: empty)
 
 Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by 
 recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is 
 added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.
 
 I am not sure, whether forwards internally means mail between two users of 
 the same postfix installation. It applies also to recipient_bcc_maps. If 
 postfix won't do this, there's probably a good reason for it, so then I'd 
 think twice if I really wanted this feature.
 

I've read about all that but its not what I'm looking for, thanks
anyway.

I just want to (possibly) send to a filter mail that comes into the
queue, check to see if it has been generated by a local domain, and put
a copy of the message in the sender's sent folder in the maildir.

If there is a better way then I'm open to suggestion, but everything
I've read so far (such as the bcc settings) appears to be a bandaid or
workaround rather than attacking the solution head on. Its appears
simpler to me to avoid using the mailer and filtering per recipient by
simply copying using and external filter on postfix.

I'm obviously not the only one who would like a feature like this for
maildir setups on postfix based on how many times that suggested
workaround appears on the google searches. Once I have worked out a
proper solution I'll post it and I can almost guarantee the popularity
of it :)

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Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters

2008-09-22 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 20:53 -0400, George Fazio wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a
  postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm
  using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which
  retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual
  workstations (which is what happens currently).

 When you say courier-imap client, do you mean you're using maildrop to 
 deliver the message to the user's maildir or that there is an end-user 
 courier-imap client?  I am only familiar with the maildrop piece of courier.
  I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account
  for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but
  it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on
  Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so:
  1. what does it take to write one?
  2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it
  possible?
 

 This is a classic case of over engineering.  You do not want to bcc back 
 to the user, or filter the mta, just move the outgoing messages to the 
 sent folder.  You might need bcc for the purposes of journaling all 
 email, if you have any legal requirement (sox, hippa, etc.) that require 
 it.  But, that it another ball of wax entirely.
  This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages
  to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue.
 

 If the end-user's client is using imap and configured properly, it 
 should do this for you.  Thurderbird, the full version of Outlook (and 
 probably Express), and many other clients support this natively - you 
 just have to make sure the client is configured to do that.  Typically, 
 in the configuration of the client, there is something that says 
 something like save a copy of sent messages to folder of choice.  I 
 don't know what client you're using.  I use Pine/Alpine, Thunderbird, 
 and Outlook (when I have no other choice).
 
 If the end-user's client is using pop, then you have a problem that may 
 require a custom solution like you speak of above.
  Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to
  do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would
  be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me
  how it works :) ).
 
  Cheers
 

 
 My mail system is running postfix (mta) w/ dovecot (for imap or pop 
 access from the clients), maildrop (for delivering to a maildir), and 
 amavis-new (for spam filtering and virus scanning w/ clamav).  My mail 
 clients are configured for imap, and they save copies of sent mail to 
 the sent folder as expected.  While I am using dovecot, and not courier, 
 for my imap server - I cannot imagine that any other imap server would 
 handle things any differently ... it's core functionality that ever imap 
 server should have imho.
 
 -George
 

Me too. It may be possible to save a copy in evolution, but I haven't
found it in all clients. Plus my system needs to be suitable for a
webmail system, and yes some pop clients.

You sound like you know maildrop very well, I was considering using it
as a part of the solution. If I wrote a milter script for postfix, is it
possible to pass the message to maildrop so that it can take care of the
formalities such as filenames and formats and tell it to put it in a
sent folder? Something like a shell or perl script that uses this line
to run maildrop:

maildrop -d $user Maildir/.Sent

Obviously the message itself will be piped, and the $user will be
obtained by copying the from field in the message.

Would something like this work? I've been searching on google but
haven't found a clear answer, they only mention using maildrop filters
and commands there- not actual usage of the maildrop cli.

Cheers

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Re: Realtek 8111C?

2008-09-21 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 09:18 -0700, Sebastian wrote:
 Oliver Fromme wrote:
  Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to confirm my understanding of current status on this NIC. It 
seems, based on some searching, the current Realtek driver in FreeBSD 
doesn't support the 8111C, and that although the vendor-supplied driver 
_may_ work for older 5.x and 6.0 releases (if one can get it compiled, I 
couldn't), it doesn't work in 6.3 or 7. So the RTL8111C is effectively 
not supported. True?

I picked up a nice little Atom board to use as a low-power NAS, and 
unfortunately just assumed the onboard Realtek NIC was supported. 
Unfortunately I don't have a PCI slot on this mobo to use a different 
  NIC.
 
  What vendor ID and product ID, exactly?
  (pciconf -lv will tell.)

 Thanks for all the responses. I've made a little progress as a result.
 
 The computer is an MSI Wind barebone unit with MS-7418 on the mb.
 Link: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=Wind_PCclass=npc
 
 The NIC is an RTL8111C, and here's the output of `pciconf -lv` on FreeBSD 6.3:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x41801462 chip=0x816810ec 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 
 After reading the responses here, I tried the 7.1-beta live CD. It detects the
 NIC, and the output of the above is changed slightly (new name):
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x41801462 chip=0x816810ec 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 
 I was able to bring up the interface using the live CD, and at first glance it
 seems to be working (pings ok), but I didn't stress-test it.
 
 So if all else fails, I will continue using 7.1. But first, since I'm trying 
 to
 use FreeNAS, which is FreeBSD 6.3, I thought I'd try copying the driver from 
 7.1.
 The module (if_re.ko) appears to load successfully at boot time, however the 
 NIC
 is still not shown in dmesg and unavailable as re0. I admit I don't know if 
 this
 should even work (7.1-compiled module on 6.3 kernel). I may be missing 
 something.
 
 This machine will run off a CF card, hence the desire to use flash-friendly
 FreeNAS. I do have some experience with NanoBSD, so if I can't get FreeNAS to
 work I'll pursue that with 7.1.
 
 Thanks for any further insights you might have!

There is already a driver available for 6.3, but you need to compile it
yourself. Check the drivers list for details.

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  I have used the compiled driver on 6.3 with success- but then I've used
  the driver linked in a post to drivers list. 7.0 is a no go.
  
 
 I tried to compile the current OEM Realtek driver under (v176) on fbsd 
 6.3, but couldn't get it to build. My foo is a little thin here. :)
 
 Would you be able to send me your successful 6.3 driver? I'd like to 
 test it on FreeNAS.
 
 Thanks,
 Sebastian

Try this. I'm stress testing atm, but either way it still works. I'm
using different hardware (desktops, laptops, multicore, single core,
AMD, Intel, high-end and low-end cpus), so I think this accounts for
some stalls and latency I've noticed.

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Re: Audio Production

2008-09-21 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 08:21 -0400, marshc wrote:
 Nash Nipples wrote:
   

  m cassar schrieb:
 

  Does anyone here use freebsd for serious
  
  audio/video production work? or
  
  know if there is some kind of community?
 
  
  Didn't try it, but http://ardour.org/ looks like

  what you are looking for.
  
  See http://www.freshports.org/audio/ardour/
 
  --
  Timm
 

  thanks but this wasn't exactly what i was asking about
  in the original post.
  ardour *is* in ports, as with most other good open-source
  audio applications
  ( and propbably the best program out there - though i'm
  new) but what i was
  looking for is related to custom/optimizted kernels either
  known as
  low-latency or real-time kernels in linux; to help reduce
  recording
  latencies, audio dropouts, etc. like studio 64 rt-kernel on
  ubuntu, planet
  ccrma on fedora.
 
  what i was trying to find out is whether there is such
  projects on freebsd,
  or more importantly, if freebsd kernel had the potential to
  be similarly
  optimized. (not that i myself have any expertise, [hence my
  question])
 
  on the other hand, if you are interested in audio programs,
  ardour is good,
  hydrogen is good and fun. not to mention easy.
  
 
  i have experienced a delay when i was recording voice and sort of laying it 
  on a track. but removing a few miliseconds off the beginning didnt make a 
  big trouble for me and thats when i have discovered this phenomenom but 
  thought it was rather because my sound card is old. is this any close to 
  something that you mean?

 it is related, but what you mentiioned is a slightly different area in 
 computer audio than what i mean with respect  to kernels.
 
 An old card is likely to produce greater delays under any setup, but 
 that is more a factor of its capabilities and quality of its parts than 
 just purely because it is old.  If you were using JACK (linux) or ASIO 
 (windows) the delay could be minimized to some extent, but no miracles 
 there, and that is about the most you can do.
 
 i'm only at entry level on audio engineering, but in a nutshell here is 
 an overview to explain your delay, (latency) and my kernel related question.
 
 first of all, computers are always prone to latencies, or delays, 
 because of the time it takes the cpu to process  the audio data, 
 read/write from disks, convert between audio signals and digital data, 
 etc, etc. All take up cycles and valuable milliseconds.
 
 when playing normal music like mp3s in itunes and such, you wouldn't 
 notice any delay because the data is simply read from disk and output 
 thru speackers as they come, though technically there would be a short 
 period between the time the data was read off disk and then heard out 
 the speakers. in audio production that slight delay, or latency, is 
 everything, especially when you have multi-track recording and syncing 
 with external gear. (latencies range from under 10ms to over 100ms)
 
 Latency would be more noticeable, say when recording, and would sound 
 like an echo if you were talking into a mic and listening thru 
 headphones or speakers, on an average setup at least. roughly becase of 
 the time needed to process the signal.
 
 Also, If you were to use a midi controller/keyboard connected via midi 
 to play a software instrument, you would notice a delay between the time 
 you hit a key on the keyboard and when you actually heard the sound. The 
 key press transmittes midi data to the software instrument, the software 
 triggers the desired sound immediately, but there is that slight delay 
 to create the sound and push it out the speakers.
 
 Audio interfaces can have a latency around 5ms, which is very good,  yet 
 may still be faintly noticable, and that also depends on the power of 
 the pc and the actual load ( number of tracks, effects, instruments 
 playing), and latency is still a *phenomenon* and something you *have to 
 live with* in computer audio production; as opposed to hardware gear 
 like samplers, drum machines, synths, etc. and short of buying a $10K 
 protools soundcard. a _hobbyist_ audio interface can be decent with 
 latencies under 20ms.
 
 In application, multi-track  recording programa like Cubase, Logic, 
 Ardour, Ableton, Cakewalk etc, do fairly well (with a good setup) when 
 all material is confined within the computer and not communicating with 
 the outside world.  When you are recording say a vocalist, chances are 
 you're playing back all the other tracks (drums, bass, etc) at the same 
 time for the vocalist to listen and sing to, plus possible playing back 
 the vocalist with added effects likde reverb; a mixture of delays going 
 in, and the same amount going out.
 
 Simillarly, if you had one or more audio tracks, (playing back audio 
 recordings or samples off hard disk), and had any midi track there being 
 sent to external hardware like a drum machine ,to play drum parts from 
 

Re: Realtek 8111C?

2008-09-19 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 13:21 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Sebastian wrote:
 
  I'd like to confirm my understanding of current status on this NIC. It 
  seems, 
  based on some searching, the current Realtek driver in FreeBSD doesn't 
  support the 8111C, and that although the vendor-supplied driver _may_ work 
  for older 5.x and 6.0 releases (if one can get it compiled, I couldn't), it 
  doesn't work in 6.3 or 7. So the RTL8111C is effectively not supported. 
  True?
 
 A new MSI P45 Neo3-FR motherboard with an 8111C shows it working with 
 7.1-PRERELEASE.  The support for the 8111C is pretty new (July in CVS), 
 but so far it seems okay with this instance.
 
 uname -a:
 
 FreeBSD lightning 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Sep 19 
 18:48:47 MDT 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 dmesg:
 
 re0: RealTek 8168/8168B/8168C/8168CP/8111B/8111C/8111CP PCIe Gigabit 
 Ethernet port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 
 0xfdfff000-0xfdff,0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci4
 
 pciconf -lv:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x514c1462 chip=0x816810ec 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
  device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
  class  = network
  subclass   = ethernet
 
 ifconfig:
 
 re0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
 options=389bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC
   ether 00:1d:92:f4:02:38
   inet 10.0.0.213 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active

I have used the compiled driver on 6.3 with success- but then I've used
the driver linked in a post to drivers list. 7.0 is a no go.

7.1 support may be due to the request made in the drivers list that I
mentioned.

Other than that, good luck!

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Re: NTP authentication using kerberos

2008-09-18 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum:
  
  Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server?
  
  Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions
  I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other
  reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be
  included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand,
  there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised,
  so use ntp.
  
  And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp
  and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then
  this could be simpler, yes?
  
  Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think
  I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this?
  I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an
  issue.
  
  One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and
  dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible
  with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too
  ambitious with everything here? :)
 
 NTP doesn't support Kerberos style authentication.  It has it's own
 cryptographically secured authentication mechanisms.  See ntp-keygen(8)
 However, doing the full-blown crypto security thing is generally over the
 top for securing simple clients.  It's good for NTP servers, especially
 if you have your own heirarchy of Stratum 1 and perhaps Stratum 2 servers 
 and accurate timing really is critical for you.  Remember you need at least 
 three independent time sources -- preferably four to give you some 
 resilience -- in order to be able to detect if the clock has gone wonky on 
 any one of your servers.
 
 For supplying a time signal by multicast or broadcast, you have to enable
 key based authentication on all the servers and clients.  The basic method
 just uses what is effectively an 8 character random string as a password.
 This is usually sufficient if all your client machines are on protected back 
 end networks and taking a time signal from NTP servers entirely in 
 your control.  You need to protect the ntp-keys file from exposure -- I 
 like to create a root-only directory to hold it:
 
   mkdir /etc/ntp
 mv ntp.keys /etc/ntp/
 chown -R root:wheel /etc/ntp
 chmod -R go-rwx /etc/ntp
 
 For dhcp and DNS security -- there are all sorts of mechanisms for
 authenticating and securing transactions between such servers.  In the
 case of DNS, I suggest you read up on 'Tsig' (Transaction Signatures)
 and DNSSEC -- this is a good resource: 
 
 http://www.dnssec.net/why-deploy-dnssec
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 

Well thats good to know. I'm already using those methods on the dns and
dhcp server, seems isc have their own methods in security so I'll just
have to stick with those for ntp too.

For reference, how does this affect the whole kerberos setup if these
services are not in the kerberos system? Does it introduce a security
flaw? Any experts out there that can clarify this point? Or should I
just run these particular services outside the kerberos system (ie on a
separate machine not kerberos secured)?

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Re: Realtek 8111/8168B and Atheros 5100ABGN

2008-09-18 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 16:53 -0400, Demian Lessa wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC and an  Atheros
 5100ABGN wireless adapter on my notebook.
 
 FreeBSD-7 STABLE cannot configure either card. devinfo shows full info
 from the Realtek device and partial info from the Atheros device. In a
 nutshell, I have no network connectivity on this box.
 
 In PC-BSD-7, the Realtek works out of the box, but no luck with the
 Atheros card either. The issue here is that I don't know which modules
 are different from PC-BSD-7 to FreeBSD-7 STABLE.
 
 A recent thread I read on the web mentions a problem with 8168B not
 working in the stable or current releases (Jul/08 and Aug/08). Could any
 kind soul give me a couple pointers on how to get these cards to work on
 FreeBSD? I am using PC-BSD for now, but I'd rather use FreeBSD.
 
 Thanks to all,

I've had trouble with the 8111c, but I'm using 6.2 (tried 7 and didn't
think it was stable enough for my systems). Their is a 3rd party driver
mentioned under the drivers list, but its only suitable for FBSD up to
6.x.

Sorry I can't help further, but thats what I know about this hardware.

Cheers and good luck


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Wifi and wpa_supplicant

2008-09-18 Thread Da Rock
Is it just me or is wpa_supplicant not the best option for auth on wifi?

I have now used several systems with wifi and wpa_supplicant and none
have been capable of maintaining the network connection. I haven't asked
before specifically because I thought it was my aging hardware - but now
I've used new hardware, ral and iwi devices and several combinations
with the same sort of issues. I will also add I've used 6.1, 6.2, 6.3
and 7.0 FBSD.

I have a very simple conf using this:

network={
ssid my ap
psk  secret
}

I have added some other options such as mode=1 and key_mgmt=NONE, but
that hasn't changed anything.

Basically if I go ifconfig then the device simply has no carrier and no
association intermittently. I've tried using keep alive techniques by
using the network, but it can still drop out. I've tried new AP's too.
The only way I can keep the network alive is by killing and restarting
the supplicant.

Another new thing with the ral on one machine is that I have to set the
roaming to auto and scan before it will associate, and even then I can't
get an ip because of drop out.

I've tried various modes and settings with ifconfig and the ap's but
nothing has worked.

Any ideas, or anyone else having the same sort of issues? It appears to
me that wpa_supplicant is not very effective... the only stable
connections I get are using network manager on linux (not my favourite
alternative) and even then I'd rather have more control of my
connection.

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NTP authentication using kerberos

2008-09-17 Thread Da Rock
This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum:

Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server?

Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions
I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other
reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be
included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand,
there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised,
so use ntp.

And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp
and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then
this could be simpler, yes?

Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think
I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this?
I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an
issue.

One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and
dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible
with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too
ambitious with everything here? :)

Cheers

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CUPS photo printing

2008-05-19 Thread Da Rock
I'm just trying to print some photo's which I haven't done since our
total changeover to OSS, not something we get time to do on a regular
basis anyway, and I'm testing a Samsung 610ND colour laser printer and a
Canon MP750 pixma printer.

After some issues with the usb on one laptop (HP - I'd recommend staying
clear of), I finally got a couple of samples. I used photo paper one the
pixma and high quality colour copy paper in the samsung, and the quality
out of the samsung was pretty ordinary (to be expected, it is only a
business colour printer) photo wise, but not too bad. When I printed out
of the pixma though it was worse! I've seen an bjc3000 print better than
that- in fact I haven't seen that quality since the dot matrix days!

Obviously I want to fix this so I can get good quality photos out (and
yes, I did try the gutenprint to get this), but I was specifically
wondering if anyone knows what the basis for the EFI Fiery filters are?
I've worked in the print industry (DOD) as well as the tech support for
printers, and I know for a fact that Fiery have released several server
types with their software for producing photo quality on laser printers,
WINNT, linux, osx. They have also embedded their software on chips. This
is why Xerox have specifically used Fiery on the majority of their
products for this quality that it gives them, though the cost is higher.

So I'm kinda curious how they do it. They obviously use a more direct
connection to the printer itself, but they would use CUPS as the
frontend surely?

Besides info on this, I do need to get a good quality photo print out of
these printers- why else would we bother with the pixma?

Cheers guys

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libavcodec miscompiled - running very slow

2008-05-13 Thread Da Rock
I installed gmencoder on 6.3 recently (and yes, given that I recently
posted all my ports are up to date), but when I run it to encode a movie
it comes back on the 2nd pass and says that libavcodec was miscompiled
and will be slow (sure is- runs forever getting nowhere).

It did recommend compiling on gcc=4.2, so I installed gcc42 (tried 4.4
and 4.3, but hit issues which I wasn't prepared to overcome especially
after a quick search online) and symlinked it to the /usr/bin (renamed
the old gcc). But after reinstalling gmencoder, mencoder, and mplayer I
still had no success.

Any ideas on how to fix this? If I run gcc -dumpversion it comes back
with 4.2.4, and searching online I found that ports uses the $path to
find gcc, so I'm kinda at a loss here.

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Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails

2008-05-12 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 23:50 -0400, Matthew Donovan wrote:
 I just tried to install imagemagick from ports myself and it installed fine 
 maybe it's a 6.3 issue since I m on 7.0 or your ports is out of date 
 considering here the imagemagick port installs ImageMagick-6.4.1.0
 

Ok then, it must be a 6.3 issue. I ran portsnap update and the tree is
up to date as I thought. The error is a weird one- the patch looking for
a directory that isn't there, why would there be a Imagemagick directory
under the work directory? And where are all the source files for the
build which should be under the work directory? Instead just an empty
file named .extract_done.imagemagick._usr_local.

I've also looked under /usr/local but I can't find anything there
either.


 On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:53:18AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  
  On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 17:20 -0700, Johan Dowdy wrote:
   Did you cvsup before attempting the install?
   
   -J
   
  
  Do you mean update the ports tree? This is a relatively new install of
  6.3 (last week or so) with a minimal distro and no ports tree installed
  at the time. I run portsnap manually after install nowadays so that the
  latest and greatest is installed from the start. I'll try updating, but
  pkg_version -v seems up to date so I doubt very much it'll make a diff.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Sent: Sun May 11 16:46:31 2008
   Subject: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
   
   I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just
   tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It
   attempts to find Imagemagick folder in the work folder but cannot do so.
   I ran ls but all it has is .extract.imagemagick._usr_local or the like
   (the exact message is on another system atm).
   
   All I want is to install lives, but this has killed that. Any ideas what
   I can do? Or is this something to send to the ports list? Time is of the
   essence here, so thats why I thought somebody here might be able to find
   a workaround so I can continue for now and post to ports later.
   
   Cheers
   
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Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails

2008-05-12 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:02 +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:46:31AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just
  tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It
 
 Update your ports tree. The current version in ports is 6.4.1.0. There
 have been some problems with 6.4.0.7, see
 http://www.freshports.org/graphics/ImageMagick/ 
 
 Roland

You'll have to excuse me- I'm not usually such a dunderhead- but how do
I go about that? I ran portsnap update and it says the tree is up to
date.

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Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails

2008-05-12 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:03 +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
 Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:02 +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:46:31AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just
   tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It
  
  Update your ports tree. The current version in ports is 6.4.1.0. There
  have been some problems with 6.4.0.7, see
  http://www.freshports.org/graphics/ImageMagick/ 
  
  Roland
 
  You'll have to excuse me- I'm not usually such a dunderhead- but how do
  I go about that? I ran portsnap update and it says the tree is up to
  date.
 
 Shouldn't it be
 
 
 portsnap fetch update
  ^
 
 atb
 
 Glyn
 

I told you I wasn't with it. Of course that works now... I've updated
AND installed imagemagick. I use portsnap fetch then portsnap update
usually- but of course I forgot the first step in my foggy brain.

Thanks for your patience guys

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Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails

2008-05-11 Thread Da Rock
I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just
tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It
attempts to find Imagemagick folder in the work folder but cannot do so.
I ran ls but all it has is .extract.imagemagick._usr_local or the like
(the exact message is on another system atm).

All I want is to install lives, but this has killed that. Any ideas what
I can do? Or is this something to send to the ports list? Time is of the
essence here, so thats why I thought somebody here might be able to find
a workaround so I can continue for now and post to ports later.

Cheers

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Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails

2008-05-11 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 17:20 -0700, Johan Dowdy wrote:
 Did you cvsup before attempting the install?
 
 -J
 

Do you mean update the ports tree? This is a relatively new install of
6.3 (last week or so) with a minimal distro and no ports tree installed
at the time. I run portsnap manually after install nowadays so that the
latest and greatest is installed from the start. I'll try updating, but
pkg_version -v seems up to date so I doubt very much it'll make a diff.


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Sun May 11 16:46:31 2008
 Subject: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
 
 I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just
 tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It
 attempts to find Imagemagick folder in the work folder but cannot do so.
 I ran ls but all it has is .extract.imagemagick._usr_local or the like
 (the exact message is on another system atm).
 
 All I want is to install lives, but this has killed that. Any ideas what
 I can do? Or is this something to send to the ports list? Time is of the
 essence here, so thats why I thought somebody here might be able to find
 a workaround so I can continue for now and post to ports later.
 
 Cheers
 
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Installing Xorg drivers

2008-04-25 Thread Da Rock
I'm working on getting a 7 touchscreen working- I found a uep.ko driver
which somebody migrated from netbsd (I know- I'm at the bleeding adge
here...) years ago, but I have no idea if there are any updates. For
reference the binary page faults, but building the driver seems to work
on 6.3.

I had to install the compat5x to get some software to work, but my
problem now is Xorg won't recognize the drivers. Albeit the drivers are
old, and for xfree86-4... I'd like to build them if I can't do anything
else.

What I'd like answers to are:
1. How does Xorg find the drivers? Does it just go searching the
directory?
2. What is the compatibility between Xorgs, and even Xorg and XFree86?
3. Is there a difference between Xorg drivers across platforms?

And maybe 4. Has anyone got a driver for the eGalax touchscreen already
working?

Thanks guys

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Xorg config

2008-04-23 Thread Da Rock
I could use some more detailed information on setting up Xorg- I have a
USB Shintaro wireless keyboard with integrated trackball, and a touch
screen which is not cooperating with my setup. I tried Xorg -configure,
and running xorgconfig, but it still can't seem to find the devices.

Another thing is I have disabled mouse for the console, but Xorg still
looks to /dev/sysmouse. I'm not sure if this is important or it can be
ignored in this case.

Cheers

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USB nics

2008-04-20 Thread Da Rock
Hi guys. I have a little usb nic, and I would like to be able to attach
it for service purposes from time to time. Unfortunately, there doesn't
seem to be any clear instructions on how to do this, and my time is
short.

The nic is an AXIS 88772 which I think might be covered by drivers.

Cheers

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Re: CONTACT FEDEX DELIVERY COMPANY LTD.

2008-04-19 Thread Da Rock
Are these guys getting dumber, or are do they think we are?


On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 20:25 +1000, FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY wrote:
 Attention,
 
 Please be informed that I have Paid for the delivery fee for your Cheque 
 Draft. But the manager of Intercontinental Bank Plc told me that before the 
 check will get to you that it will expire. So i told him to cash $800, 
 000.00. all the necessary arrangement of delivering the $800, 000.00 in cash 
 was made with FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY. so they have aggreed to send it 
 to you.
 
 Below is the needed information to enable them deliver the fund to you 
 immediately. the only fee you have to pay to them is $100 usd that they will 
 use in obtaining the fund's insurance certificate and claims of affadvite 
 that will prove that this parcel consist of total sum of $800.000.00 belong 
 to you. Then be rest assure that all other fees have been paid by me. 
 
 1.YOUR FULL NAME
 2.YOUR HOME ADDRESS.
 3.YOUR CURRENT HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER
 4.YOUR CURRENT OFFICE TELEPHONE. 
 5.A COPY OF YOUR PICTURE
 6.COMPANY REGISTRATION NOAF70945
 7.CODE NUMBER2178234
 
 Now contact FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY'S DIRECTOR Mr. Cambell at ([EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]) for the sending of the fund to you. Please make sure you send the 
 above needed information to them. 
 
 Note: The FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY LTD don't know the contents of the 
 Box. I registered it as a Box of family valuable belongs. They don't know it 
 contents fund. this is to avoid them delaying with the Box. Besides, don't 
 let them know that is money that is in that Box.I am waiting for your urgent 
 response.
 
 Thanks.
 Bruno Brawn
 
 
 
 
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RTL8111C driver for FBSD7

2008-04-18 Thread Da Rock
Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard
(truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this
before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation
found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there
was no support for it in the hcl's.

Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a
driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one
work? Anyone know how to install it?

The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the
readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the
conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to
rebuild the kernel?

Cheers guys

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Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7

2008-04-18 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 
 Da Rock wrote:
  Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard
  (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this
  before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation
  found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there
  was no support for it in the hcl's.
 
  Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a
  driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one
  work? Anyone know how to install it?
 
  The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the
  readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the
  conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to
  rebuild the kernel?
 
  Cheers guys
 
 

 I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought a 
 similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme describes 
 two methods of installation but the first one simply does not apply 
 (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not tried the 
 second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl and re from the 
 kernel will remove the built-in support (it could conflict with the new 
 driver) and create a module for the new driver. Note that you are also 
 asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src directories.  In fact it 
 is better to build as a module - building it into the kernel may well 
 leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is not compatible.
 
 As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on this 
 box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - and I may 
 be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will be interested 
 in the results.

Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the
kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and
the build for the driver is for a module.

Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort
(argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions).
My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work
on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)?

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Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7

2008-04-18 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:08 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

  Da Rock wrote:
  
  Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard
  (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this
  before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation
  found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there
  was no support for it in the hcl's.
 
  Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a
  driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one
  work? Anyone know how to install it?
 
  The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the
  readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the
  conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to
  rebuild the kernel?
 
  Cheers guys
 
 


  I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought a 
  similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme describes 
  two methods of installation but the first one simply does not apply 
  (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not tried the 
  second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl and re from the 
  kernel will remove the built-in support (it could conflict with the new 
  driver) and create a module for the new driver. Note that you are also 
  asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src directories.  In fact it 
  is better to build as a module - building it into the kernel may well 
  leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is not compatible.
 
  As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on this 
  box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - and I may 
  be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will be interested 
  in the results.
  
 
  Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the
  kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and
  the build for the driver is for a module.
 
  Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort
  (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions).
  My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work
  on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)?

 I hope realtek releases a driver for 7. I would not want to go back to 
 6.X for this.
 I have a 6.3 server, and can give it a try - as far as compiling the 
 module, not actually using it, I don't have the NIC.
 I will post the results later today.
 

Ok, I have good news and bad news.

Good news: the driver compiles under 6.2.

Bad news: it doesn't work.

I tried a new cable, dhcp, manual config- could not get it to
communicate. First sign was that it couldn't get an ip from dhcp. Then I
tried pinging dns name, then local address- NG. When I tried the cable
the NIC led didn't come back on, and the indication leds on the switch
were slowly blinking. Something is seriously wrong...

Any ideas about this guys?

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Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7

2008-04-18 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:38 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:08 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

  Da Rock wrote:
  
  On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:


  Da Rock wrote:
  
  
  Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard
  (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this
  before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation
  found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there
  was no support for it in the hcl's.
 
  Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a
  driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one
  work? Anyone know how to install it?
 
  The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the
  readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the
  conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to
  rebuild the kernel?
 
  Cheers guys
 
 



  I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought a 
  similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme describes 
  two methods of installation but the first one simply does not apply 
  (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not tried the 
  second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl and re from the 
  kernel will remove the built-in support (it could conflict with the new 
  driver) and create a module for the new driver. Note that you are also 
  asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src directories.  In fact it 
  is better to build as a module - building it into the kernel may well 
  leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is not compatible.
 
  As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on this 
  box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - and I may 
  be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will be interested 
  in the results.
  
  
  Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the
  kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and
  the build for the driver is for a module.
 
  Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort
  (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions).
  My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work
  on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)?


  I hope realtek releases a driver for 7. I would not want to go back to 
  6.X for this.
  I have a 6.3 server, and can give it a try - as far as compiling the 
  module, not actually using it, I don't have the NIC.
  I will post the results later today.
 
  
 
  Ok, I have good news and bad news.
 
  Good news: the driver compiles under 6.2.
 
  Bad news: it doesn't work.
 
  I tried a new cable, dhcp, manual config- could not get it to
  communicate. First sign was that it couldn't get an ip from dhcp. Then I
  tried pinging dns name, then local address- NG. When I tried the cable
  the NIC led didn't come back on, and the indication leds on the switch
  were slowly blinking. Something is seriously wrong...
 
  Any ideas about this guys?
 
 

 Maybe it gets stuck in the auto-negotiation phase, trying to determine 
 link speed?
 
 Give it a bit of manual help, something like:
 
 ifconfig rl0 inet 192.168.0.25 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX

I have to admit I hadn't thought of that, and I did just check it now,
but thats not the case here. The NIC led is not on at all, only the
switch led is blinking slowly.

No, I believe this could be one for the experts- any out there?

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Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7

2008-04-18 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 09:18 -1000, Al Plant wrote:
 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  
  
  Da Rock wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
   
  Da Rock wrote:
 
  Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard
  (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this
  before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation
  found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there
  was no support for it in the hcl's.
 
  Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a
  driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one
  work? Anyone know how to install it?
 
  The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the
  readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the
  conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to
  rebuild the kernel?
 
  Cheers guys
 
 
  
  I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought 
  a similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme 
  describes two methods of installation but the first one simply does 
  not apply (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not 
  tried the second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl 
  and re from the kernel will remove the built-in support (it could 
  conflict with the new driver) and create a module for the new driver. 
  Note that you are also asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src 
  directories.  In fact it is better to build as a module - building it 
  into the kernel may well leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is 
  not compatible.
 
  As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on 
  this box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - 
  and I may be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will 
  be interested in the results.
  
 
  Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the
  kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and
  the build for the driver is for a module.
 
  Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort
  (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions).
  My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work
  on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)?

  I hope realtek releases a driver for 7. I would not want to go back to 
  6.X for this.
  I have a 6.3 server, and can give it a try - as far as compiling the 
  module, not actually using it, I don't have the NIC.
  I will post the results later today.
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 I have replaced 8111c.  Use Tealtek 8169 1000.pci cards on FreeBSD 7/8 
 I saw reports on this list about 8111c being a bad nic.
 So I changed and the 8169 is really great.

Yeah, me too now. I tried building the ndis driver, the driver for the
realtek 8111c- all NG. I think someone is going to have to build this
properly at some stage. Apparently the driver is only supposed to work
in 6 but I couldn't get it to work. As for the ifconfig up settings, I
was using sysinstall...

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Re: Avermedia 507 TV

2008-04-17 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 00:15 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 April 2008 04:36:26 Da Rock wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
   On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote:
On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote:
 Hi, All.

 Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use
 saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv
 runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin...

 How to test tuner and drivers works or not.

 I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get
 the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself.
   
saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver
homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary
bsd-patche within distrib tarball
  
   I suspect your tuner (terratec?)  is not amongst the supported ones.
 
  Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally
  supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly).
 
 Avermedia is not a type or brand of tuner. They're a HW company that assemble 
 certain cards/sticks from parts such as tuners, decoders etc.
 
 
  That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had
 
 Saa driver is still available from purpe.com, but only from a direct download 
 link (there's no page anymore):
 
 http://download.purpe.com/files/saa-REL_14.tgz
 
  no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled
  with support for the driver, not the driver itself.
 
 kbtv1 includes it also, for convenience, and because its needed for the saa 
 backend anyway (well, some header).
 
 The saa driver only covers video and audio (I only use shunted audio with 
 kbtv, not real audio capture). Tuner support is all userspace (directly via 
 iic device). The generic tuner support that comes with the driver (as example 
 sort of) seems to indicate that this is for a class of tuners that has three 
 fixed bands and must be set to switch between it (as in Philips reference 
 design). TDA and MKn init require some extra iic babble.
 
 Modern silicon tuners work differently and have quite different registers 
 that 
 need to be set for tuning.

You'll have to excuse me presumption here (I'll normally read all
messages before adding to a thread), but you sound like a very good
source of info here. May I ask you if you can supply some references to
what you're posting here? I'd like to investigate this much further...

Also, I thought I read somewhere that firmware is used in most tuners.
Plus I found the linux drivers use firmware to make this work. Just a
thought.

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Re: How can I access video tape under FBSD?

2008-04-17 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 20:28 +0200, Frank Wißmann wrote:
 Hi, folks!
 I have bought for myself a taperecorder-to-usb-connector, which I wrote 
 in /etc/usbd.conf as following:
 Device  Video tape
 Product 0x2821
 Vendor  0xeb1a
 
 Now I want to move all of my archived video tapes to harddisk/DVD. How 
 can I perform this, that means how can I access my tape recorder, put 
 the files onto HD and view it, meaning what kind of program is capable 
 of doing so? Mplayer would be fine because I have it just installed

A couple of ways to do this- depends on space and quality required. If
you have space and want quality, capture the data raw from the tuner and
then use mencoder to convert to mpeg/divx/whatever(30-40Gb+ 3hr tape).
If space is at a premium, or quality is not as important, then use
ffmpeg and convert on the fly. Need a fairly new cpu, plenty of RAM.

This all very general, but good luck...

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[SOLVED] Re: Openldap server install failure - openldap client conflict

2008-04-16 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:44 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 I sent this to ports but then reconsidered this- I thought ports was for
 ports errors, but a quick look back and it mostly seems to be just for
 testing. Anyway, I hope I rectified this sufficiently...
 
 I'm trying to install OpenLDAP as a server to attempt to try it out
 for our network. The problem is the openldap client is already installed
 for other apps as php, apache, asterisk, etc. So my question is: is it
 possible to uninstall the client? Will the server include the client
 required for these other apps?
 
 And while I'm here... I tried installing the odbc backend, but it
 conflicts with other apps as well. How can I have both the libiodbc and
 unixodbc at the same time for openldap server (requires libiodbc), php5,
 etc?
 
 Cheers

For reference, my fears were unfounded- the ports guys did help me out,
it is in their jurisdiction.

Secondly, when installing the server the client options need to match.
Plus the versions need to match. I had 2.3.38 client, the server was
2.3.40. Plus I had just the client, the server I was installing had sasl
support so it was installing sasl-ldap client.

In the process of my investigations and experiments I think I managed to
stuff some of my installed ports, but I will cross that bridge when I
get to it...

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Re: Openldap server install failure - openldap client conflict

2008-04-16 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 10:37 -0400, David Robillard wrote:
  I'm trying to install OpenLDAP as a server to attempt to try it out
  for our network. The problem is the openldap client is already installed
  for other apps as php, apache, asterisk, etc. So my question is: is it
  possible to uninstall the client? Will the server include the client
  required for these other apps?
 
 You can always remove the old client and install the new version. You
 simply need to shutdown the services which depend on the client before
 you remove the old one and install the new one. Then start the
 services again. Of course you should do this on a test machine and
 make sure all your applications work as expected with the new client
 (i.e. don't do this on your production machine AND backup before you
 do!).
 
 For what it's worth, I've removed and installed the OpenLDAP client
 from a few machines and never had any problems with Apache nor with
 PHP. But I did have a problem with sudo(8). If you use sudo (you
 probably should IMHO) and it was compiled with LDAP support, then the
 minute you remove the old OpenLDAP client, sudo will be broken. It's
 easy to work around this by using su(1) and switch to root. Of course,
 make sure you know the root password and that you're part of the wheel
 group before you do this.
 
 Here's how I proceed to update the OpenLDAP client. I use SASL also,
 but it's not mandatory. Notice that I run a first make(1) without
 options. This will help reduce the time required between the `make
 deinstall` and `make install clean`.
 
 cd /usr/ports/net/openldap24-sasl-client
 sudo make
 sudo /all/your/ldap/dependent/applications/rc.d/scripts stop
 sudo make deinstall
 sudo make install clean
 sudo /all/your/ldap/dependent/applications/rc.d/scripts start
 
 Also, on a side note, I would suggest adding a few lines to
 make.conf(5) so that all your applications will require the same
 OpenLDAP versions (and the same Berkeley DB too). That change did help
 me quite a lot. The downside of this is that if you have many hosts,
 you may have to edit quite a few make.conf(5) files when either
 OpenLDAP or BDB changes versions. Using rsync, rdist
 
 WANT_OPENLDAP_VER= 24
 WITH_BDB_VER= 46
 
 Good luck with OpenLDAP. Should you need help with it, SASL and
 Kerberos integration, feel free to contact me.

I did just get it worked out, but those other apps were worrying me (see
last post). At least I know where to look now...

I am very interested in kerberos integration if you could provide some
hints. I looked into before for another reason and set it aside in the
too hard basket for a while... I posted back to the list to help others
if they're interested too.

One thing, I installed the lam webapp for administration (and I did also
try this manually too) but when I'm asked for a password I have no idea
what password its looking for (I do feel rather stupid!). This was
something I was going to try to solve next time I get back to this
project- it was late at night and I had only just got it installed and
running. It says in the install guide that it will ask for the secret
once you add a ldif file, so I assumed it would set it then- I was
wrong...

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Avermedia 507 TV

2008-04-15 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 10:43 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote:
 On 15.04.2008, Da Rock wrote:
 
 How I can test my tuner? I'm newbee to bsd and can't understan why
 tuner do not works, than driver loaded without errors
 

Sorry for the diversion. Try sysctl -a and grep for saa- if that fails,
check manually. I'm no guru, I'm afraid. Someone else may have a better
way to do this, but this should head you along the right direction.

Post your results, plus dmesg (just type dmesg - any user should be
fine). We'll go from there.

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Openldap server install failure - openldap client conflict

2008-04-15 Thread Da Rock
I sent this to ports but then reconsidered this- I thought ports was for
ports errors, but a quick look back and it mostly seems to be just for
testing. Anyway, I hope I rectified this sufficiently...

I'm trying to install OpenLDAP as a server to attempt to try it out
for our network. The problem is the openldap client is already installed
for other apps as php, apache, asterisk, etc. So my question is: is it
possible to uninstall the client? Will the server include the client
required for these other apps?

And while I'm here... I tried installing the odbc backend, but it
conflicts with other apps as well. How can I have both the libiodbc and
unixodbc at the same time for openldap server (requires libiodbc), php5,
etc?

Cheers

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Re: DHCP problem.Help please

2008-04-14 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 14:43 +0800, Ruel Luchavez wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I hope some one will me on my problem.
 My friends has and existing DHCP server and squid proxy server running both
 in freebsd.We purchased a new desktop PC, we gave it a permanent IP using
 the DHCP server and we edit the config file in /usr/local/etc/dhcp.conf we
 add this at the bottom
 
 host test {
   hardware ethernet 00:1d:27:64:e1:af; [this is the physical address of new
 PC]
   fixed address 192.168.1.16;
   }
 
 But as we ipconfig the new PC the IP is still the same?
 Is there something i forgot to configure?
 
 PLEASE HELP here...thanks in adnvanced

So you used dhcp to obtain an ip prior to setting up a fixed address on
the dhcp server? If so you may have to clear your dhclient.leases file-
rename to .old (correct me if theres a better way to do this anyone).

When testing, use dhcpd -d - this will run the dhcp server in the
foreground so you can see any messages realtime which you can then post
here if need be. Also, send the entries in your log files.

Good luck.

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Re: Avermedia 507 TV

2008-04-14 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote:
 Hi, All.
 
 Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use
 saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs,
 but freeze on begin chanel tunin...
 
 How to test tuner and drivers works or not.
 

I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the
drivers from? I couldn't get access myself.

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Re: Avermedia 507 TV

2008-04-14 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
 On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote:
  On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote:
   On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote:
   Hi, All.
  
   Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use
   saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs,
   but freeze on begin chanel tunin...
  
   How to test tuner and drivers works or not.
  
   I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the
   drivers from? I couldn't get access myself.
 
  saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver
  homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary
  bsd-patche within distrib tarball
 
 I suspect your tuner (terratec?)  is not amongst the supported ones.

Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally
supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly).

That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had
no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled
with support for the driver, not the driver itself.

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Samsung 610ND printer

2008-04-13 Thread Da Rock
Has anyone had any experience with this printer? Is it easy to setup in
CUPS? Print quality? Photo quality?

Cheers


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Re: Printer getting attached to umass and da

2008-04-12 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 18:33 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote:
 On Saturday 12 April 2008 05:32:25 pm Predrag Punosevac wrote:
  Steven Friedrich wrote:
   On Saturday 12 April 2008 04:29:20 pm Warren Block wrote:
   On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Steven Friedrich wrote:
   From messages:
   messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: ulpt0: EPSON USB2.0
   MFP(Hi-Speed), class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub4
   messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: umass0: EPSON USB2.0
   MFP(Hi-Speed), class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub4
   messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: da0: EPSON Stylus Storage
   1.00 Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
  
   Why is it getting attached to umass and da?
  
   Most likely the printer has memory card slots that are accessible via
   USB.
  
   Should I config something to stop this?
  
   Not unless it's causing a problem.
  
   -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
  
   It does have slots for memory...
   I can't get this printer to work, and the cups error_log shows no errors.
   I had been reading a HOW-TO on the CUPS site and I set the loglevel to
   debug, figuring I'd get a message about a broken pipe due to a missing
   filter. No such luck. Far as CUPS is concerned, it's working. But it only
   feeds sheet after sheet and occasionally prints garbage.
   I've tried CUPS test page and a one sheet doc from KATE.
   The gutenprint doc says I should have an Epson backend
   in /usr/lib/cups/backend (but I think on freebsd it will be
   in /usr/local/libexec/cups/backend).
   But it's not there...
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  Remove the umass driver from the kernel (you have to recompile) and then
  configure printer. Then load
  umass driver after the boot with kldload utility since otherwise you
  will not be able to use Floppy disk and USB sticks
 
  Cheers,
  Predrag
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but after removing the umass driver, the printer 
 still dosen't work.
 I did verify with usbdevs -dv that umass is not attached to the printer 
 anymore...

I'd say you better find a way to get that Epson backend installed- not
much else is going to make a difference here.

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  Da Rock wrote:
   On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:
 
   Da Rock wrote:
   
   This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
   voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
   need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
   little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
   in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
   to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
   shrieks when I unplug the power...
 
   Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)
   
  
   I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
   units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.
  
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  I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
  their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
  which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
  in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
  actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)
  
 
 So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...

I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they
confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of
their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it?

I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another
windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I
wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- I wouldn't corrupt my
network with M$!!!

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Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote:
 Hi Volodymyr,
 I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to 
 play recent Flash pages. 
 I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to 
 enter some websites..

I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business
might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS...

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 16:35 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote:

  On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  
  Da Rock wrote:

  On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:

  
  Da Rock wrote:
  

  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while 
  she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't 
  want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...

  
  Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)
  

  I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
  units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.
 
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  I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
  their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
  which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
  in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
  actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)
 

  So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...
  
 
  I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they
  confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of
  their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it?
 
  I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another
  windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I
  wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- I wouldn't corrupt my
  network with M$!!!
 

 I assure you, apcupsd has this option. Here is a direct paste from my 
 freebsd server:
 
 Please select the function you want to perform.
 
 1) Test kill UPS power
 2) Perform self-test
 3) Read last self-test result
 4) Change battery date
 5) View battery date
 6) View manufacturing date
 7) Set alarm behavior
 8) Set sensitivity
 9) Quit
 
 Select function number: 7
 
 Current alarm setting: DISABLED
 Press...
  E to Enable alarms
  D to Disable alarms
  Q to Quit with no changes
 Your choice:
 
 You can access this by running apctest as root. It is installed as part 
 of sysutils/apcupsd. You should however stop the apcupsd monitoring 
 daemon before running apctest.

I figured this was the case of M$ misinformation again.

Cool- I've made the right choice then. I ordered one based on the fact
that at worst I could run either window$ in a VM, or wine, or that
window$ lookalike in a VM. But this is much better...

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Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:01 -0400, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote:
  Hi Volodymyr,
  I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to 
  play recent Flash pages. 
  I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to 
  enter some websites..
  
  I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business
  might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS...
  
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 It's going to be interesting when microsoft's silverlight comes out, it 
 is supposed to be superior to flash, if it becomes popular even the 
 linux community will have problems because I really doubt that they will 
 release a plugin for other OSes other than Mac OS any way.
 

Yes, but like any other crap they put out I'm sure we'll find a way
around it... :)

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Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 11:00 -0400, Gerard wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:15:50 +0200 (CEST)
 Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   PLEASE CONTACT ADOBE. TELL THEM TO RELEASE A FLASH PLUGIN FOR
   FREEBSD.
  There are more and more websites you cannot even enter without a
  running Flash Player.
  
  so don't watch them. their author definitely are not interested in 
  providing real information, as it can't go without flash.
  
  while there is a lot of pages that are unreadable without flash, non
  of them contain useful informations.
 
 I find that assumption grossly inaccurate. I have experienced
 difficulties numerous times trying to access financial institutions
 without a working flash plug-in. I just had another bad experience with
 a linksys site using Opera:
 
 http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C1childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1175238286492pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapperlid=8649286492H30displaypage=download
 
 The lack of an easy to install and maintain flash program is one of the
 main reasons I maintain a WinXP machine. Not the only reason perhaps,
 but nevertheless an important one.

Pity you would think that you have to corrupt your network with this
machine! At least you could use linux...

 
   If many of the BSD community ask for it, they probably will 
  release a BSD Version..
  
  they should do it alone, not be asked for it. they know that FreeBSD 
  exist, and they know that it's just matter of recompiling. But they
  don't release FreeBSD version. so they don't willingly.
  
  They are not idiots, and they already calculated well if providing
  FreeBSD version will be good for them of not.
  
  
  don't be anyone's slave and simply don't use this crap at all.
  whatever you use freebsd or not
 
 

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Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 00:43 +0200, herbert langhans wrote:
 Thanks to all the input I found a solution what works for me:
 
 FreeBSD 7.0 and Firefox 3.0a2 (the firefox-devel port)
 
 1. I deinstalled swfdec.
 2. Closed Firefox and renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.backup 
 3. Started firefox so to generate a new and clean .mozilla
 4. #make install /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper
 5. Downloaded 
 http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlashP2_Platform=Linux
 --the .tar.gz format.
 6. Extract libflashplayer.so from install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz and 
 copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
 7. Then, as normal user: 
 $nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (to install)
 $nspluginwrapper -l (to check if its installed)
 8. Copied the settings, like bookmarks.html and other stuff like themes from 
 .mozilla.backup to .mozilla (dont copy the whole bunch back not to overwrite 
 the plugin settings)
 9. My /etc/rc.conf has the entry linux_enable=YES -- I suppose this is 
 necessary.
 
 That way you can enter the wonderful world of annoying advertisment even 
 without using Windows.. 

Good to know. I was going to have a crack at it again once I got the
chance... Can you whip up a how-to for a newbie so we can direct them to
there in the future?

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Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition

2008-04-09 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 20:15 -0400, Eduardo Cerejo wrote:
  There's already a MacOS version available:
  
  http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/
 
 That's what I said
 
  and support for linux as well:
  
  http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
 
 It looks like gnash for silverlight, it will always be a step behind like 
 gnash.

Actually the politics of mono suggest that M$ is behind it anyway, so
maybe not...

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A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock
This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
shrieks when I unplug the power...

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 17:10 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...
 
 Last I checked, that was called a laptop.
 
 If for some incomprehensible reason a laptop doesn't work then the answer
 is going to be specific to the brand/model of UPS you have.
 

grins I have 2 of those, and both in use... Plus, she can't use a
keyboard yet, so I don't want clutter- the unit will be hidden away, and
only screen will be seen by the child (ATM anyway). And, again, costs
are an issue...

I don't have one yet, but I was hoping someone might have a suggestion
as to which one might be capable of switching off the audio alert.

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...
 
 Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)

I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.

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Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)

2008-04-08 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote:

  Da Rock wrote:
  
  This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the
  voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I
  need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
  little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's
  in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want
  to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
  shrieks when I unplug the power...

  Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-)
  
 
  I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed
  units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA.
 
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 I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all 
 their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd)  program ( 
 which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored 
 in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good 
 actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;)
 

So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me...

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Re: trying atausb instead of umass, part 2

2008-04-05 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 10:53 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote:
 On Friday 04 April 2008 09:03:33 am Da Rock wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 08:16 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote:
   On Thursday 03 April 2008 04:38:27 am Dieter wrote:
[ no replies from -drivers, so added -questions ]
  
   I looked at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
   and couldn't find a freebsd-drivers list.  Perhaps that's why you didn't
   get any replies?
 
  Then this would be a figment of our imagination? :)
  http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-drivers
 
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 archives.  -drivers should be added to it...
 
 I went back and looked at 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
 and it IS listed there.
 
 A small task for the webmaster 8o)
 
 I was searching the archives because I wanted to see his previous posts, 
 since 
 this one was labeled part 2.
 

Ahh, I see. Actually I looked through some of the archives and that
posting must have been a while back because I can't find it either. By a
while I mean more than a month- since I subscribed.

Meanwhile, the OP is still waiting for an answer... :) I'll have to go
back and check what the question was I think.

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Re: trying atausb instead of umass, part 2

2008-04-04 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 08:16 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote:
 On Thursday 03 April 2008 04:38:27 am Dieter wrote:
  [ no replies from -drivers, so added -questions ]
 
 I looked at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
 and couldn't find a freebsd-drivers list.  Perhaps that's why you didn't get 
 any replies?

Then this would be a figment of our imagination? :)
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-drivers

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Way way way OT: Some interesting facts about politics, campaigns, and servers

2008-04-03 Thread Da Rock
I picked this up on fedora list, and of course they were cheering the
linux results, but I was rather pleased with the FreeBSD results-
particularly on the democrats chart.

http://www.douglaskarr.com/2007/06/23/2008-elections-by-server/

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[OT] Re: SCSI network

2008-04-01 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 16:41 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  unmanaged switch will work much better :)
 
 
  I'd agree with that 100%- do the bandwidth math (not to mention the ease
  of setup): gigabit each way compared to a max of 320mb (I could be wrong
  on the exact figures, but the gigabit is still faster).
 
 320MB is 2560Mb not 320Mb
 
 160MB/s is above gigabit ethernet speed - half duplex, but when traffic 
 goes mostly one direction - it's not a problem.
 

Learn something new everyday...

May I ask how that works? Everything I've read about scsi is that the
throughput determines the standard: so 320MB has a throughput of ~320MB.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scsi)

 
  Setup a small private network between the machines in question and
  everything would be happy.
 
 of course - but just asked as i have a bunch of unused U160 controllers 
 and cables.
 

Fair enough- I'd probably do the same.

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Re: [OT] Re: SCSI network

2008-04-01 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 14:45 +0200, User Wojtek wrote:
  May I ask how that works? Everything I've read about scsi is that the
  throughput determines the standard: so 320MB has a throughput of ~320MB.
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scsi)
 
 there is a bit (exactly 8 times) difference between megabit and megabyte
 

Ahh! I see now the reference in the footnote. I was under the impression
that the data throughput was measured the same as the throughput for
most other data interfaces (USB, Firewire, Ethernet, Serial, Parallel,
etc...), hence my confusion. No wonder I've never been that impressed
with scsi...

Can anyone tell me why this break in convention?

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Re: SCSI network

2008-03-30 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 22:34 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote:
 In the last episode (Mar 29), Wojciech Puchar said:
  i have few Ultra160 SCSI controllers and two Ultra40, cables and few 
  machines that needs fast interconnect. i could use one gigabit card on each 
  machine+switch, but i already have it!
  
  can i make external SCSI bus through all machines and use it to transmit IP 
  packets?
  
  they are all adaptec (ahc driver) controllers - manual says it can be 
  target as well as initiator
 
 I've never seen a SCSI IP implementation, but I guess it's
 theoretically possible.  Since SCSI uses a shared bus, though, the best
 you could get would be a half-duplex network.  Gigabit NICs and a cheap
 unmanaged switch will work much better :)
 

I'd agree with that 100%- do the bandwidth math (not to mention the ease
of setup): gigabit each way compared to a max of 320mb (I could be wrong
on the exact figures, but the gigabit is still faster).

Setup a small private network between the machines in question and
everything would be happy.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Card readers - Does anyone know where to get help for this?]

2008-03-29 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 21:23 +, Vince wrote:
 I believe there was a (work in progess) driver for at least one type of 
 these card readers
 http://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2006/09/sdmmc-freebsd-driver-outline.html
 
 No idea as to current status. You could ask on freebsd-mobile I guess. 
 (I have a Ricoh based one in my laptop but never use it so dont miss it.)
 
 
 Vince

Yeah, I found the mailing list stable had a thread but it trails off at
the end of last year.


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Re: Card readers - Does anyone know where to get help for this?

2008-03-28 Thread Da Rock
I must be the only one who has this... Can anyone redirect me to a list,
resource, whatever that my give me some clue to this problem?

Cheers


On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it
 requires a thread of its own.
 
 I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able
 to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do
 with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so
 this shouldn't be a problem.
 
 In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which
 gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so
 I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs:
 
 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia
 Controller
 02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments
 PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller
 
 I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move
 over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I
 seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping.
 
 The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including
 xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work.
 
 Any links and info would be very appreciated.
 
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Re: Permission to publish article

2008-03-28 Thread Da Rock
Out of sheer curiosity- is this spam? Is there any reference to the
paint on FreeBSD? I can't imagine where it would be used...


On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 08:23 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To Whom It May Concern:
 
  
 
 I am executive assistant to Mr. Alan Hess, author of the copyrighted article
 If Airlines Sold Paint originally published in Travel Weekly in October of
 1998.  Since that time, the Paint satire has been widely circulated on the
 Internet, without any citation of authorship.  Mr. Hess is flattered that
 you like his work well enough to include it on your website.  
 
  
 
 When he has been asked for permission to print it in various publications,
 including university text books, Mr. Hess has freely given that permission.
 If you wish to continue to use the article, please include the following
 citation:  
 
  
 
 Printed with permission.  C Alan H. Hess, 1998.  All rights reserved.
 
  
 
 Thank you,
 
  
 
 Stacy Hoeksel
 
 Assistant to Alan H. Hess
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 The correct text of the satire is as follows:
 
  
 
 If airlines sold paint
 
  
 
 Buying paint from a hardware store
 
 Customer: Hi, how much is your paint?
 
 Clerk: We have regular quality for $12 a gallon and
 premium for $18.  How many gallons would you like?
 
 Customer: Five gallons of regular quality, please.
 
 Clerk: Great.  That will be $60 plus tax.
 
  
 
 
 
 Buying paint from an airline
 
 Customer: Hi, how much is your paint?
 
 Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends.
 
 Customer  Depends on what?
 
 Clerk: Well, actually a lot of things.
 
 Customer: How about just giving me an average price?
 
 Clerk: Wow, that's just too hard a question.  The lowest
 price is $9 a gallon, and we have 150 prices up to about $200 a gallon.
 
 Customer: What's the difference in the paint?
 
 Clerk: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same
 paint.
 
 Customer: Well then, I'd like some of that $9 paint.
 
 Clerk: Well, first I need to ask you a few questions.
 When do you intend to use it?
 
 Customer: I want to paint tomorrow on my day off.
 
 Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.
 
 Customer: What?  When would I have to paint in order to get the
 $9 version?
 
 Clerk: That would be in three weeks, but you will also
 have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue
 painting until at least Sunday.  
 
 Customer: You've got to be kidding!
 
 Clerk: Sir, we don't kid around here.  Of course, I'll
 have to check to see if we have any of that paint available before I can
 sell it to you.
 
 Customer: What do you mean check to see if you can sell it to
 me? You have shelves full of the stuff; I can see it right there.  
 
 Clerk: Just because you can see it doesn't mean that we
 have it.  It may be the same paint, but we only sell a certain number of
 gallons on any given weekend.  Oh, and by the way, the price just went to
 $12.
 
 Customer: What!  You mean the price just went up while we were
 talking!
 
 Clerk: Yes sir.  You see, we change prices and rules
 thousands of times a day, and since you haven't actually walked out the
 store with your paint yet, we just decided to change.  Unless you want the
 same thing to happen again, I would suggest that you get on with your
 purchase.  How many gallons do you want?
 
 Customer: I don't know exactly.  Maybe five gallons.  Maybe I
 should buy six gallons just to make sure I have enough.
 
 Clerk: Oh no, sir, you can't do that.  If you buy the
 paint and then don't use it, you will be liable for penalties and possible
 confiscation of the paint you already have.
 
 Customer: What?
 
 Clerk: That's right.  We can sell you enough paint to do
 your kitchen, bathroom, hall, and north bedroom, but if you stop painting
 before you do the bedroom, you will be in violation of our tariffs.  
 
 Customer: But what does it matter to you whether I use all the
 paint?  I already paid you for it!
 
 Clerk: Sir, there's no point in getting upset; that's
 just the way it is.  We make plans based upon the idea that you will use all
 the paint, and when you don't, it just causes us all sorts of problems.
 
 Customer: This is crazy!  I suppose something terrible will
 happen if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night!
 
 Clerk: Yes, sir, it will.
 
 Customer: Well, that does it!  I'm going somewhere else to buy
 my paint.
 
 Clerk: That won't do you any good, sir.  We all have the
 same 

Re: cursive fonts?

2008-03-28 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:52 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   Guys,
 
   This is  a quick one:  how/where can I get a cursive font
   for abiword? or even OO?
 
   gary
 
 

You can look for urw fonts in the ports - this was the best I could
find, anyway. If you find anymore please let me know what you find.

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Re: cursive fonts?

2008-03-28 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 22:30 -0500, Mark Kane wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 29, 2008, at 12:49:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:52 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 Guys,
   
 This is  a quick one:  how/where can I get a cursive font
 for abiword? or even OO?
   
 gary
  
  You can look for urw fonts in the ports - this was the best I could
  find, anyway. If you find anymore please let me know what you find.
 
 Hi.
 
 In addition to the fonts in ports you could also try a font site like
 dafont.com. Just extract the .ttf file(s) into ~/.fonts/ and restart
 your application.
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 -Mark
 

I wasn't aware of that. Don't they have to be registered with the font
server though?

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[Fwd: Re: Card readers - Does anyone know where to get help for this?]

2008-03-28 Thread Da Rock

---BeginMessage---
Some more info on this- I've just loaded 7.0 on the laptop and got this
from dmesg:

pci6: mass storage at device 6.3 (no driver attached)
pci6: base peripheral at device 6.4 (no driver attached)

Does this jog anyone's thoughts?

Which driver would it be looking for? And then how would I attach the
driver? devd.rules?


On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:57 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 I must be the only one who has this... Can anyone redirect me to a list,
 resource, whatever that my give me some clue to this problem?
 
 Cheers
 
 
 On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it
  requires a thread of its own.
  
  I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able
  to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do
  with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so
  this shouldn't be a problem.
  
  In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which
  gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so
  I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs:
  
  Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia
  Controller
  02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments
  PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller
  
  I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move
  over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I
  seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping.
  
  The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including
  xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work.
  
  Any links and info would be very appreciated.
  
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DDNS, ISC-DHCPD, and Bind... not working because of strange error messages

2008-03-27 Thread Da Rock
I did actually manage to get this to work, and I can't exactly work out
what changed to cause this error.

I set this up at the end of last year, and it worked- kind of. The
failure was my own by not using a proper FQDN, but it worked
unofficially anyway. Records were updating etc: all happy.

Anyway, I finally got the FQDN worked out (split horizon dns- external
and internal views), but I find that the ddns is not working: and not
because of the changes I made. I looked back and found the problem going
on for month. My messages file has these entries, and no amount of
googling has brought me any closer to finding out what they could mean,
or why my clients aren't updating:

Mar 27 16:18:54 {$HOSTNAME} dhcpd: pool.ntp.org: no A record associated
with address

I've edited the hostname to protect the innocent.

What I can't figure out is why would dhcpd be looking at pool.ntp.org? I
ran a dig on pool.ntp.org on the off chance it was busted- but of course
it was not. And this record pops up everytime I renew my ip addresses.
Weird...

Little help anyone?

Cheers

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Re: Mac osX drivers

2008-03-25 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:49 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:19 PM, David Kelly wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 02:26:23PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  I know I keep asking about drivers, but what about Mac drivers? I
  understand that Mac osX is based fairly well on BSD, so would the
  drivers be portable?
 
  Drivers for doing what?
 
  This is all on a current project I'm working on...
 
  Go study the available Darwin code from
  http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
 
 This is good advice, but if you check this link and actually look at  
 the OSX drivers under there, you'll discover that they are generally  
 written in C++ using something called the I/O Kit, documented here:
 
 http://developer.apple.com/reference/HardwareDrivers/
 http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeviceDrivers/Conceptual/IOKitFundamentals
 
  I believe you will discover many of the drivers in MacOS X came from  
  FreeBSD.
 
 Not really, no.  The OS X drivers originated from the Mach project at  
 CMU and NeXT Computer back in the early 90's [1], with a significant  
 rewrite by Apple after they acquired NeXT circa 1998 to add numerous  
 drivers to support Apple's hardware in particular.
 

Thanks for the info guys- looks like I have to keep looking for a
different solution. I do have another question but I will ask this in
another thread.

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Re: really dumb question: can I install Linux USB drivers under linux compat?

2008-03-25 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:19 -0700, Steve Franks wrote:
 Am I crazy?
 
 Steve

Not really. Check out linux-kmod-compat in ports. However, there is
catch ;) I'm just checking into some details now- I'm not sure if you
have to build the driver or you can just use one prebuilt in an rpm.

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Re: OT: (Way OT) PHP and MySQL concurrency control using MyISAM tables

2008-03-25 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 17:01 -0700, Patrick C wrote:
 MyISAM supports locking (like all engines) but not transactions. Without
 transactions, you can do a lock lock a table or tables, and unlock them,
 however you cannot roll back statements -- so if a statement down the line
 fails for some reason there is no way to rollback and undo past statements
 (automagically at least)
 
 The simple solution is to use InnoDB, which supports Good Things you want -
 it's more scalable across multiple threads, row-level locking, transactions,
 foreign keys, etc.
 
 The differences are fairly well documented. It sounds like you're using PDO,
 please read up on auto-commit mode. Don't reinvent the wheel, especially
 when the wheel is already built better than you could hack out a replacement
 for it :)
 
 -Patrick
 
 On 23/03/2008, Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 19:17 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
   Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I know this is not quite the list for these things, but I tried the
  PHP
list and got no reply whatsoever. In fact, I don't think anyone's home
cause the entire list is silent...
   
I'm trying to setup a system using web apps in PHP using MySQL as the
backend database, only this time I need transaction services.
  According
to the PHP manual if a transaction is served for MySQL it can come
  back
as committed even though it may not. So what I'm trying to accomplish
  is
develop some row level locking with the PHP script.
   
I enquired about setting up a servlet (for want of a better term) with
PHP, something that will serve the requests of the rest of the app. To
be honest though, I'm not entirely sure how to approach this.
  
   Wow.  That's one crazy attempt at a workaround.
  
   The correct solution is to use the correct tool for the job.  Either
   install PostgreSQL and use it instead, or use InnoDB tables.
  
 
 
  Actually, I think I may have got some facts confused here- I thought
  that MyISAM was not supposed to be transaction supported, but according
  to most stuff I've read it supports table level transaction locking.
 
  And the PHP manual says it will only come back with a false commit IF
  the table DOESN'T support transactions at all.
 
  So what is the truth here? If MyISAM supports transaction table locking
  I may be ok here- and save myself a hell of a lot of trouble to boot.
 
  Thanks guys, again.
 

I remember now exactly why I wanted MyISAM- you see the table locking is
exactly what I need for the task. I just need to come up with a method
to ensure what I send to the server does actually get written- or am I
just being paranoid?

The task I require needs to offer direct sequential access with no
undoing of written data. And given the legality of the task based on
these strict requirements, you can understand my paranoia.

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Re: media conversion utilities in the ports

2008-03-23 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 09:41 +0100, Michaël Grünewald wrote:
 Andrew Falanga a écrit :
  Hi,
  
  A few quick searches on freshports.org didn't turn up much so I'm
  hoping that the knowledge here will eclipse it.  Are there any good,
  or workable, scriptable WMA to MP3 converter programs in ports?
 
 Mplayer pretends it can handle WMA files, however I did not try this 
 feature. See multimedia/mplayer, it installs an `mencoder' program you 
 might be interested in.

you need the win32 codecs to make this work though.

good luck

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OT: (Way OT) PHP and MySQL concurrency control using MyISAM tables

2008-03-23 Thread Da Rock
I know this is not quite the list for these things, but I tried the PHP
list and got no reply whatsoever. In fact, I don't think anyone's home
cause the entire list is silent...

I'm trying to setup a system using web apps in PHP using MySQL as the
backend database, only this time I need transaction services. According
to the PHP manual if a transaction is served for MySQL it can come back
as committed even though it may not. So what I'm trying to accomplish is
develop some row level locking with the PHP script.

I enquired about setting up a servlet (for want of a better term) with
PHP, something that will serve the requests of the rest of the app. To
be honest though, I'm not entirely sure how to approach this.

Any ideas would be very welcome.

Cheers

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Re: OT: (Way OT) PHP and MySQL concurrency control using MyISAM tables

2008-03-23 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 19:17 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
 Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I know this is not quite the list for these things, but I tried the PHP
  list and got no reply whatsoever. In fact, I don't think anyone's home
  cause the entire list is silent...
  
  I'm trying to setup a system using web apps in PHP using MySQL as the
  backend database, only this time I need transaction services. According
  to the PHP manual if a transaction is served for MySQL it can come back
  as committed even though it may not. So what I'm trying to accomplish is
  develop some row level locking with the PHP script.
  
  I enquired about setting up a servlet (for want of a better term) with
  PHP, something that will serve the requests of the rest of the app. To
  be honest though, I'm not entirely sure how to approach this.
 
 Wow.  That's one crazy attempt at a workaround.
 
 The correct solution is to use the correct tool for the job.  Either
 install PostgreSQL and use it instead, or use InnoDB tables.
 

Actually, I think I may have got some facts confused here- I thought
that MyISAM was not supposed to be transaction supported, but according
to most stuff I've read it supports table level transaction locking.

And the PHP manual says it will only come back with a false commit IF
the table DOESN'T support transactions at all.

So what is the truth here? If MyISAM supports transaction table locking
I may be ok here- and save myself a hell of a lot of trouble to boot.

Thanks guys, again.

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Re: I'd like some help

2008-03-23 Thread Da Rock

On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 19:51 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 09:10:04AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  
  On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 14:58 -0700, Matthew Woodson wrote:
   I've been learning about a bunch of the BSD OSes, and i want to try Free 
   BSD, but i can't figure out how to download it and the instructions don't 
   make sense. I am running Windows XP OS- can you tell me how to download 
   Free BSD with it?
  
  Go to the download section of the site and download the iso files. Once
  you have those, double click on them and burn them to disk.
 
 Last I checked, the MS Windows built-in CD burning software didn't do
 burning from an image -- you'd need third-party software.  Burning an ISO
 without such software would just result in a copy of the ISO on the CD,
 rather than a CD that would boot up an installer.
 

Which software were you using and how long ago? I've used Roxio, Nero,
and Easy CD Creator- all of which did that. Most bundled burning
software will do it automatically. They offer burn from cd/dvd  image,
as well as data cd creation, so when you double click on an iso file it
sets up to burn the image for you.

If you haven't got the bundled software installed I agree with you
though. Fairly uncommon though.

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Mac osX drivers

2008-03-23 Thread Da Rock
I know I keep asking about drivers, but what about Mac drivers? I
understand that Mac osX is based fairly well on BSD, so would the
drivers be portable?

This is all on a current project I'm working on...

Cheers

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Re: I'd like some help

2008-03-22 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 14:58 -0700, Matthew Woodson wrote:
 I've been learning about a bunch of the BSD OSes, and i want to try Free BSD, 
 but i can't figure out how to download it and the instructions don't make 
 sense. I am running Windows XP OS- can you tell me how to download Free BSD 
 with it?

   
  -Thanks, Matthew
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Go to the download section of the site and download the iso files. Once
you have those, double click on them and burn them to disk.

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Re: removable devices auto umounting

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 16:21 +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:32AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can
  see its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I
  could use some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card
  reader), but the removal seems to come unstuck.
  
  I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work
  this out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What
  are the options here?
 
 In KDE (same for GNOME and such I figure), removable devices like usb
 keys, cameras, cd/dvd are automounted and appear on the desktop.
 Using the right-click popup menu you can Safely remove or Eject
 them.
 
 For this to work, you need to have sysutils/hal installed and configure
 x11/kdebase3 to enable hal support (this is the default).
 
 Then you need to give users permission to access necessary devices.
 It's best to create a separate group for that like plugdev and then
 add users to this group. To give a plugdev group access to devices
 create/edit the file /etc/devfs.rules to contain:
 
 --- begin /etc/devfs.rules ---
 [local_ruleset=10]
 #allow plugdev to access the CAM subsystem (required for cd/dvd burning and 
 usb mass storage)
 add path xpt0 user root group plugdev mode 0660
 add path 'pass*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
 #only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any
 #add path pass0 user root group operator mode 0660
 #add path pass1 user root group operator mode 0660
 #...
 
 #allow plugdev to access the cdrom
 add path cd0 user root group plugdev mode 0660
 
 #allow plugdev to access usb mass storage
 add path 'da*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
 #only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any
 #add path 'da0*' user root group operator mode 0660
 #add path 'da1*' user root group operator mode 0660
 #...
 
 #allow plugdev to access generic usb devices (cameras/mp3 players using 
 libusb)
 add path 'usb*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
 add path 'ugen*' user root group plugdev mode 0660
 --- end /etc/devfs.rules ---
 
 (You don't need anything special in /etc/devfs.conf. If you've put
 stuff there to get cd burning working for normal users, you can
 remove it. (permission for cd,xpt,pass devices))
 
 In /etc/rc.conf then make sure you have these lines:
 
 dbus_enable=YES
 devfs_system_ruleset=local_ruleset
 hald_enable=YES
 polkitd_enable=YES
 
 And finally, give plugdev access to hal by editing
 /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf
 At the end of that file it says:
 
   !-- You can change this to a more suitable user, or make per-group --
   policy group=operator
 allow send_interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement/
 allow send_interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.LaptopPanel/
 allow send_interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume/
 allow send_interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.Crypto/
   /policy
 
 On the second line above, change operator to plugdev.
 
 Then make sure you have a /var/media directory and /media linking to it
 and nothing related to removable devices in /etc/fstab (including cdrom).
 Reboot your system and if I didn't miss anything, any user in the
 plugdev group should be able to use removable devices quite easily.

Thanks for that- I was just looking into that from the Project Utopia
article. Just a couple of things-

1. You still have to click eject before removing the device. Is there a
way to skip this and just remove the device?

2. The D-Bus system only works with an X wm doesn't it?

I know it seems contrary, but is there a way I can set this up so that
it will work from a standard tty? The amd system appears to allow this,
but it does have its faults as well.

Consider this theory: IF the X windows system is running- D-Bus and all-
can other background daemons use this system? I guess they wouldn't need
to concern themselves with this problem as the X windows will be taking
care of it automatically.

Another thought: do all wm's use the D-Bus? Or is it only kde and gnome?

Thanks for being a sounding board guys.

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List replies

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock
This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason
why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the
person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Curious...

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Card readers

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock
I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it
requires a thread of its own.

I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able
to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do
with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so
this shouldn't be a problem.

In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which
gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so
I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs:

Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia
Controller
02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments
PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller

I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move
over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I
seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping.

The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including
xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work.

Any links and info would be very appreciated.

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Re: List replies

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason
  why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the
  person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
 list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.

Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
you'd have to subscribe to post.


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Re: List replies

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 22:38 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On March 22, 2008 1:10:40 PM +1000 Da Rock 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a
   reason why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of
   the person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
  Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
  list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.
 
  Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
  you'd have to subscribe to post.
 
 
 And *I* thought it was proper etiquette to only reply to the list.

Me too.

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[Fwd: Re: List replies]

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock

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On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 23:24 -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
 Da Rock writes:
 
Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the
list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list.
   
   Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought
   you'd have to subscribe to post.
 
   I believe that has been considered and rejected, on the grounds
 this is the list most likely to be found by novices and it should
 present the only the absolutely necessary number of hoops.
 
 
   Robert Huff

Fair enough, but is it necessary on all the lists for freebsd?
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Re: virtual machine software

2008-03-21 Thread Da Rock

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 23:37 -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 I need to get a VM work for XP. I tried QEmu, but XP wouldn't install.
 I wouldn't mind VMWare, but I want to run it under trial first if
 possible.
 
 Any documents/suggestions that anyone can point me to?

I'm not certain that it is ported yet, but you can build vmware - to get
xp on vmware you'll need server though.

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Re: linux emulation

2008-03-20 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:50 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under
  freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat.
 
 emulation allows execution of normal linux programs, not drivers

Ok. So input devices won't work either? I refer to this page here:
http://people.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/unreal_tournament/

What is the driver mentioned here?

Incidentally, what is the difference between linux and bsd drivers? The
drivers in question are manufacturers binaries for linux in an RPM;
hence the question. Plus I came across several notations regarding
building or using drivers from linux in bsd (linux-kmod-compat port, the
above link, and more).

For reference I'm merely very curious, not argumentative on this. Cheers
for any answers offered.

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Re: linux emulation

2008-03-20 Thread Da Rock

 On 20/03/2008, Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:50 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under
 freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat.
   
emulation allows execution of normal linux programs, not drivers
 
 
  Ok. So input devices won't work either? I refer to this page here:
   http://people.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/unreal_tournament/
 
   What is the driver mentioned here?
 
   Incidentally, what is the difference between linux and bsd drivers? The
   drivers in question are manufacturers binaries for linux in an RPM;
   hence the question. Plus I came across several notations regarding
   building or using drivers from linux in bsd (linux-kmod-compat port, the
   above link, and more).
 
   For reference I'm merely very curious, not argumentative on this. Cheers
   for any answers offered.
 


On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 02:14 -0700, Patrick C wrote:
 A binary is compiled assembly/code. The binary still needs to interact
 with low-level hardware using system calls, handling interrupts, etc.
 in a way that the operating system understands. Applications are more
 portable and less operating- and hardware-specific than drivers, which
 require a good understanding of the operating system and the hardware.
 
 Please read the current status of linux-kmod-compat, it specifically
 indicates it is for USB drivers. USB is a simplified bus where the
 low-level access is handled in the same manner for every device so
 it's simpler to port the driver.
 
 Glide in your case is an API/Library, not an actual driver. Libraries
 are very similar to applications in how they act with the operating
 system/environment, and are a must-have on running Linux binaries.
 This is supported and works well.
 
 -Patrick
 

Ok, got that. I read that about the linux-kmod-compat, but I thought
that it might have been the beginning of something beautiful (pardon
poetics...). I was unaware of the glide situation though.

Does anyone know what the differences are between linux and bsd at the
system calls, interrupts, etc? I understand that there are some software
which accesses hardware at this sort of level which has been adapted as
well (raid controllers mainly), so surely there must be some information
on what can enable this to work.

What this discussion has got me thinking on is a wrapper (ie NDIS),
since the drivers are not from the linux oss community but from the
actual manufacturer I'm assuming (forgive me, please... :) ) that this
may be a feasible solution. In which case, then, I'm going to have to
map calls and create device nodes. Should be simple then, no? ;P!

I'd love to hear any more suggestions or links to info on any of this,
thanks guys.

Also, on the linux compat- am I correct in my observation that you have
to actually chroot to enable the running of a linux binary? Enter the
file structure of the linux compat? Or can you just run it?

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Re: removable devices auto umounting

2008-03-20 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:43 +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:32AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can see
  its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I could use
  some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card reader), but the
  removal seems to come unstuck.
  
  I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work this
  out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What are the
  options here?
 
 In short, no. Removal of a USB device would be forwarded to devd(8). But
 since the device is no longer there at that moment, you cannot unmount
 it anymore. You might get a nice kernel panic for your efforts, though. ;-)
 
 The FreeBSD disk subsystem was simple not written with removable devices
 in mind, because they didn't exist back then. Until that code is fixed
 (which is hard) you _have_ to unmount before you pull the device out.
 
 One (not bullet-proof) workaround might be to use the automounter
 [amd(8)], and have it unmount very quickly after they stop being
 active. This requires setting both the 'cache_duration' and
 'dismount_interval' options in amd.conf(5) to very low values.
  
 Roland

So by active you mean device access? Or device physical connection? If
its simply access, than that would be perfect- user enters the mount
point, reads or writes a file, amd times out after X secs and dismounts
the device. Physical could be a bit harder...

Also, what docs/how-to's would you suggest for AMD? I looked at the man
and some freebsd doc pages, but another viewpoint would help.
Specifically some more docs on the settings you mention.

Bullet-proof is not exactly necessary- nice, but not critical.
Suggestions for bullet-proof are very welcome though. What is the worst
that can happen if dismounting is not entirely successful? Keeping in
mind that this is mostly a desktop system.

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Re: removable devices auto umounting

2008-03-20 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 14:14 +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 09:55:37PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 
I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can see
its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I could use
some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card reader), but the
removal seems to come unstuck.

I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work this
out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What are the
options here?
 
 In all honesty, I'm not sure FreeBSD (or any other OS, for that matter)
 is suitable for 'barely literates'. A computer is not a toaster.

True enough. But at least they know how to plug in and unplug a device-
I just don't know if they'll remember to umount first!

 
 snip
   One (not bullet-proof) workaround might be to use the automounter
   [amd(8)], and have it unmount very quickly after they stop being
   active. This requires setting both the 'cache_duration' and
   'dismount_interval' options in amd.conf(5) to very low values.
  
  So by active you mean device access? 
 
 I mean access to the auto-mounted directory, or files therein.

That'd be perfect then.

 
  Or device physical connection? If
  its simply access, than that would be perfect- user enters the mount
  point, 
 
 User needs to plug in the device first!
 
 And it is actually worse. Depending on if and how the usb device was set
 up, you need to use the device daX[sY], where X depends on how many other
 da devices are already in use, and the optional Y depends on how it was
 sliced (partitioned in DOS parlance). 
 
 Furthermore, you need to know which kind of filesystem is used. Most
 thumbdrives are msdosfs, but larger ones might be ntfs as well.
 
 For msdosfs, I use: 
 'mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -o noatime -o sync -o noexec -o nosuid $DEV $DIR'
 

I'm sure I could script something to get around that. That shouldn't be
too hard, but I take your point: I need to consider nearly all
possibilities.

  Also, what docs/how-to's would you suggest for AMD? I looked at the man
  and some freebsd doc pages, but another viewpoint would help.
  Specifically some more docs on the settings you mention.
 
 I've never used amd, so I can't help you there. :-)
  
  Bullet-proof is not exactly necessary- nice, but not critical.
  Suggestions for bullet-proof are very welcome though. What is the worst
  that can happen if dismounting is not entirely successful? Keeping in
  mind that this is mostly a desktop system.
 
 Last time I tried unplugging a USB device before unmounting it I got a
 kernel panic.
 
 Roland

That last point would only occur if the device was still being written
to- right? I'm sure my users can be trained at least that far... I will
watch out for that though.

Thanks for the input. I reckon I can get it working (relatively)
smoothly now.

Don't suppose you know anything about setting up internal card readers
in laptops at all? Trouble is I don't think it's hooked up to the usb
bus. Its a Texas Instruments model.

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removable devices auto umounting

2008-03-19 Thread Da Rock
I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can see
its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I could use
some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card reader), but the
removal seems to come unstuck.

I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work this
out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What are the
options here?

Also how do I get the memory card reader working? I believe I'm using a
texas instruments internal here. If its in a hidden document somewhere a
link would be helpful. I have tried looking at the messages, but its not
all that clear, and so far all I've found in searches is for usb card
readers.

Cheers

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linux emulation

2008-03-19 Thread Da Rock
I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under
freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat.

1. How do I install the drivers for all users under linux compat?
2. Is it possible for freebsd programs to use the linux drivers?
3. Anything I should be aware of before I embark on this adventure?

In particular, I'm interested in drivers for multimedia cards and input
devices.

Cheers

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