Re: "swap" partition leads to instability?
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM, jb wrote: > Fred Morcos gmail.com> writes: > > > .. > > The improvement effect can be > > noticed on large inputs. These algorithms will most probably perform > quite > > badly on small inputs. > > I think your concern has been addressed in review of various algos where > base > case identification helped to avoid overhead cost in small problem sizes > relative to cache. > http://erikdemaine.org/papers/BRICS2002/paper.pdf > I will check the paper out after work, but for clarification: "Also, properly written cache-oblivious algorithms tend to recursively decompose the problem until it is small enough to fit in a cache and solve each part iteratively." <-- refers to the base case. The issue is when the input is small enough to be solved faster iteratively but too large to fit in the cache. Also note that this is extremely machine and cache-dependent. Still, I will check the paper out :) thanks. > > In light of available but not implemented better VMM algos, perhaps *BSD > and > Linux could eliminate or reduce the need for: > - swap space > I run Archlinux without any swap space on a workstation laptop without problems. I occasionally fallocate a swapfile when I need to build GHC (usually in /tmp to make use of tmpfs). > - swapping out RAM even if there is no lack of it > Linux has a sysctl variable vm.swappiness which you can set to 0 or 1 out of 100. Not sure how to achieve the same on FreeBSD, maybe one or more combinations of the following? vm.swap_idle_threshold2: 10 vm.swap_idle_threshold1: 2 vm.stats.vm.v_swappgsout: 236969 vm.stats.vm.v_swappgsin: 28411 vm.stats.vm.v_swapout: 92607 vm.stats.vm.v_swapin: 28285 vm.disable_swapspace_pageouts: 0 vm.defer_swapspace_pageouts: 0 vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 > - overcommitment of memory (a bluff asking to be punished by OOM killer) > - OOM killer > Besides, they allow sloppy/dangerous programming. > > jb > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: "swap" partition leads to instability?
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:42 PM, jb wrote: > Follow up comment. > > It has been pointed out to me that there is Varnish software taking > advantage > of system VMM and swap space. > > Well, there are cache-oblivious algorithms that perform as well, and so > they > make the above (disk access model; cache-aware model) unnecessary > (obsolete ?) and are superior in their generality. > > Note that such cache-oblivious algorithms cannot be trivially applied to any problem. Also, properly written cache-oblivious algorithms tend to recursively decompose the problem until it is small enough to fit in a cache and solve each part iteratively. The improvement effect can be noticed on large inputs. These algorithms will most probably perform quite badly on small inputs. > jb > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what i would like to see too is how these systems compare on such test: > > - run lots of heavy disk I/O tests, many different in the same time, > including ones doing many writes to different places. > > - turn off power while doing this, by unplugging from wall plug. > > - compare amount of loss and destruction that happened to filesystem. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" It would be very interesting to see the results of stress-testing systems. I cannot think of a scenario that isn't possible with a virtual machine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Most probably all filesystems were used with defaults. > > MAYBE softupdates, but not even sure for this. Compare this to linux which > is async-like. Comparing with UFS+async would be more fair. > > Still - FreeBSD default MAXPHYS in param.h is far too low. i change it to > 2048*1024 (default is 128*1024) and improvement on handling large files is > huge. I run that setting everywhere. No problems. > > I already talked about it on forum but was ignored. > > As for scientific processing it should not depend much from OS at all, but > for sure it depends on crappy compiler that Juniper wanted... > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I would not worry too much about what this guy says. Judging from his interpretations of the plots, he doesn't seem to know much about the benchmarks he is running and why they behave that way on the different systems. I think he just runs and publishes everything that says benchmark on it, without truly understanding what's going on or even going through the effort of providing fair comparisons. That said, I think that the Linux kernel performs better simply due to wider adoption (larger developer base, wider set of use-cases, etc) and thus a higher chance of getting performance improvements. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions
first time they log in (using an OTP) in a simple way? I looked at OPIE but it seems to be much more complex than what I need. GEOM and filesystems >From what I could understand, the GEOM layer only supports read-only compression. Which makes (to me) ZFS an attractive filesystem for slow HDDs (on the first laptop). Also, I would like to have a system where user home directories are encrypted based-on and using the user's password. From what I could find, gbde and geli don't really provide that without any administrator intervention. q) What should I be looking at to achieve the above? q) When creating a ZFS pool, what happens if I do a `zpool create mypool /dev/ada1 /dev/ada2'? Does it use the disks as a single continous one? Does it mirror or stripe by default? Or does it simply try to balance between performance and reliability? I could not find anything about the default behavior in the zpool manpage. q) Is it possible to have ZFS use 2 disks as a single continuous one, while still keeping both of them operable individually? (ie, if I plug in the second disk on another machine, I would get a valid ZFS pool + filesystem on it). q) I am currently considering 3 disks for a home micro-server, with ZFS striping with the third disk being a parity disk. In case I decide to buy a fourth disk in the future and add it to the pool, is ZFS capable of re-structuring the data on-the-fly to have 2 sets of striping (without parity, so 2 disks each) and on top of that a mirror? Analogous to the following: +---+ |Stripe2 mirrors Stripe1| +---+---+ |Stripe1|Stripe2| +---+---+---+---+ | Disk1 | Disk2 | Disk3 | Disk4 | +---+---+---+---+ q) Does it make sense to user a zpool directly without any ZFS filesystems on it on a single-user system where there's no special interest in ZFS's filesystem features (ie, compression)? Home micro-server This section is a little bit off-topic and not really a FreeBSD-related question. Sorry for that. As previously mentioned, I am evaluating the possibility of a home micro-server setup to host my files and other services. Here is a rough list of tasks I would like to achieve with it: 1. Serving files over network (samba, nfs). 2. Media streaming (mpd + icecast or DAAP). 3. Rsync backup server for the 2 laptops. 4. SSH, sFTP access. Some tentative features: 1. Mail, WWW. 2. Diaspora, ownCloud. 3. Git. The sole reason I would like to use FreeBSD on this system is ZFS. q) I would like to hear anyone's recommendation of a cheap, low-power ready-made hardware for such a purpose which is supported by FreeBSD. I poked around a little bit and the HP micro-servers seem to be interesting, but unfortunately too powerful (and thus power-hungry) for my purpose. q) If there isn't much outcome from looking into ready-made micro-servers, is anyone having a success story running their services on a custom built desktop PC at home with FreeBSD and ZFS? Cheers, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Flaming mailing lists (was Re: Why Clang)
And I just want to add I'm a gay Marxist atheist and I represent the accusations leveled in that other post...we have feelings too!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Flaming mailing lists (was Re: Why Clang)
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2012 12:59:51 Stephen Cook wrote: >> On 6/19/2012 4:06 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > > [snip childish invective] > >> I'm a relative newcomer. Are the FreeBSD mailing lists always this >> flame-y? I realize that this particular post might be trolling / satire > > No, they aren't. And I notice that whoever is primarily responsible for it > isn't even prepared to sign his own name to his tirades - he (or she) is > using anonymous remailers. (Irritatingly this makes him difficult to > killfile - it turns out there's at least one recent legitimate post that's > been sent through a similar remailer so I can't just toss them all away). > > Jonathan > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" The anonymous remailer's administrator can be contacted and made aware of the "abusive" email sent through it. To quote an automated message from the remailer: This message is being sent to you automatically in response to an email that you sent to . If you did not send such an email, please ignore this message. This remailer is a free service that allows individuals including crime victims, domestic violence victims, persons in recovery, and others, such as those living under oppressive regimes, to communicate confidentially in a manner that ensures their privacy under even the most adverse conditions. To obtain information on how you can use this service, please send an email with subject "remailer-help" to . Should you have received an unwelcome message through this service or to report problems with this service, please contact the Administrator at . Thank you for your interest in secure and private communications, -- The "Austria Remailer" Administrator ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
New to FreeBSD - Some questions
Hello all, I am new to FreeBSD, coming from a GNU/Linux background (most comfortable with Archlinux). I compiled a series of questions I would like to ask in different areas and categories. Should I send them all in a single email message or should I split them by subject/topic into different emails? The advantage of the former is that I will be able to easily show relations between the different topics and questions (put them into context) as well as articulate the setup I would like to reach. The advantage of the latter is that it is cleaner and simpler to answer one question by one. Also, I have done a bit of poking around to answer each of my own questions, obviously with no luck, so I do not mind RTFM-ing - I would actually prefer it, please feel free to link me to an article, tutorial, man page or handbook that already answers one or more question(s). Cheers, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why Clang
I am also a newcomer and I agree with Stephen. But I guess the only way is to simply ignore those who make such statements. I don't see much benefit in arguing or reasoning with them. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Stephen Cook wrote: > On 6/19/2012 4:06 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: >>> >>> BSDL in opposite is often criticized a "rape me license". >> >> >> No, it is not, except perhaps by lying atheist Marxist bastards and his >> religious adherents. >> > > Please don't use "atheist" as a derogatory term. There are plenty of > capitalistic atheists who neither lie nor have unmarried parents! > > I'm a relative newcomer. Are the FreeBSD mailing lists always this flame-y? > I realize that this particular post might be trolling / satire, but others > in the thread (and other unrelated threads recently) are a FAR CRY from the > technical support and discussion I expected. I thought I'd see an occasional > RTFM, maybe a random "WinBlows" here and there... but this type of thing > just diminished everyone involved. > > -- Stephen > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program
The answer is: 1. gcc will still be available through the ports system. 2. The move to clang/llvm as a default compiler will reduce the amount of GPL code in the base system, eventually reducing distribution issues (especially for 3rd parties). 3. clang/llvm provides better error and warning messages, as well as good static code analysis, which helps reduce some classes of bugs and eventually will result in a more reliable FreeBSD system. 4. clang/llvm is improving quickly. 5. clang/llvm is more modular than gcc, although there are plans for gcc to become as modular, it will take time. 6. gcc produces faster code, but clang/llvm will eventually (soon enough) get there. 7. From the reasons above, it makes sense to complete a task sooner rather than later, especially that clang/llvm isn't showing any signs of weakness (lack of development power, etc). 8. There might be more reasons for or against, but I couldn't think of any. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> >> Yes Wojciech, I can attempt an answer for you. Pay attention, this gets >> very complex. >> The decision to move to Clang was motivated by what is best for the >> project, and not what is best for Wojciech. > > still not stopped personal attacks (last part of last sentence) but lets > forget. > > So please give an answer - not summary. > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why Clang
I don't see much fruit coming out of that conversation anymore. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: > >> GPL protects the freedom of the programmer who licensed his >> code under those licenses: He wants it to be free for use, >> but not to be turned into closed source products. > > What a lying sonofabitch. That is not called freedom. That is called > "forcible, viral open source". I think we can all see the difference. Open > your motherfucking eyes, communist goofball... > >> A programmer who does not want to raise this barrier will >> typically use the BSD license which is "more free". > > No, it's just plain "free." > >> BSDL in opposite is often criticized a "rape me license". > > No, it is not, except perhaps by lying atheist Marxist bastards and his > religious adherents. > >> It explicitely (!) allows creating derivates in a closed >> source manner. This means that parts of BSD licensed code >> can be a key component in a proprietary closed source >> product that is for sale (e. g. a firewall appliance), >> and nobody will find out about that fact. > > Now you got it! GPL is about forcing people to do what /you/ want and BSD is > about letting them do what /they/ want. Let's see if you can guess which one > of those licenses is about freedom. Hint: freedom is not defined as forcing > people to do what you want. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why Clang
I would also guess that the base system is stuck with gcc ~4.1 due to the GPLv3-ization of later gcc version. Is that correct? On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Michel Talon wrote: > David Brodbeck said: >> Another way of looking at it is after 25 years of optimization GCC is >> unable to beat a new compiler that's had almost none... > Unfortunately this affirmation is blatantly false, recent gcc produce code > much faster than clang. I give here an example which i like, a monte carlo > computation for a spin lattice. > Everything runs on my macbook. > > lilas% clang -v > Apple clang version 2.1 (tags/Apple/clang-163.7.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.0 > lilas% clang -O4 test.c -lf2c > lilas% time ./a.out > ... > > real 0m2.359s > user 0m2.341s > sys 0m0.003s > > lilas% /usr/local/bin/gcc -v > … > gcc version 4.6.1 (GCC) > > lilas% /usr/local/bin/gcc -O3 test.c -lf2c > lilas% time ./a.out > … > > real 0m1.241s > user 0m1.234s > sys 0m0.003s > > So gcc gives an executable running twice faster than clang, basically, when > both compilers > are run at maximal optimization. To show the effectiveness of the optimizer, > here is the running > time without any optimization: > > lilas% /usr/local/bin/gcc test.c -lf2c > lilas% time ./a.out > … > > real 0m6.895s > user 0m6.889s > sys 0m0.005s > > What this demonstrates is that for programs which do real computations, > optimization is > *very* important, and gcc is now very good (i have not shown the numbers but > they match the Intel compiler) > while clang is at the level gcc was ten years ago. So i fully agree with > Wojciech Puchar, the move to clang > is only driven by anti GPL propaganda which is frankly completely stupid, > since in any events, gcc > does not contaminate the binaries it produces (except when using contaminated > accompanying libraries > e.g. for C++). Of course, when compiling FreeBSD kernel or similar programs > which do little computation > there is no harm using clang. I suspect that the price is higher for programs > like mencoder which require > the highest efficiency. > > I will not comment on the better error messages coming from clang, this could > be a more serious argument. > > -- > > Michel Talon > ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr > > > > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rm returns 0 although directory didn't exist and wasn't deleted ?
The man page [1] explicitly states that if the file doesn't exist, -f will not show an error message nor alter the exit code. -f Attempt to remove the files without prompting for confirmation, regardless of the file's permissions. If the file does not exist, do not display a diagnostic message or modify the exit status to reflect an error. The -f option overrides any previous -i options. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rm&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+9.0-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > I always assumed -f would only force removal, not modify the exit code. > > No bug then, working as intended, all good. > > > > Cheers > > On 6/19/12 3:43 PM, Fred Morcos wrote: >> You used -f which means rm will not complain if a file or directory >> cannot be deleted (or does not exist in the first place). >> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>> I've stumbled upon this *so weird* behaviour. >>> >>> >>> >>> # ls -la /var/tmp/stunnel/ >>> ls: /var/tmp/stunnel/: No such file or directory >>> >>> # rm -Rf >>> /var/tmp/stunnel/ >>> >>> # echo $? >>> 0 >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone knows if that's intended ? >>> >>> FreeBSD pf2.[snip].com 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 19 >>> 10:45:31 CEST 2012 >>> >>> ___ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: rm returns 0 although directory didn't exist and wasn't deleted ?
You used -f which means rm will not complain if a file or directory cannot be deleted (or does not exist in the first place). On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > I've stumbled upon this *so weird* behaviour. > > > > # ls -la /var/tmp/stunnel/ > ls: /var/tmp/stunnel/: No such file or directory > > # rm -Rf > /var/tmp/stunnel/ > > # echo $? > 0 > > > > Anyone knows if that's intended ? > > FreeBSD pf2.[snip].com 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 19 > 10:45:31 CEST 2012 > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problem updating ports (latex-cjk)
Hi Fred, The make clean went ok. The make patch: ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 ===> Extracting for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 => SHA256 Checksum OK for cjk-4.8.2.tar.gz. ===> Patching for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 # be compatible with Debian find: /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk/work/ccmap: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk. In ~/latex-cjk/work is directory cjk-4.8.2 and file .extract_done.latex-cjk._user_local There is no ccmap directory in cjk-4.8.2 but the files look they are ready to be compiled. There is a Makefile. I just tried moving to that directory and running make install and clean. This was not successful either and I forgot to run script to capture the output. I ran make clean so I could start over and this failed with the following: ragnok# make clean make -C utils clean make -C Bg5conv clean bg5conv bg5conv:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 I think I may have a mess now and have no more time to work on it tonight. I will try again tomorrow. Best regards, Fred On 04/25/11 07:29, Frédéric Perrin wrote: Hello Fred, Fred writes: I ran into a problem when updating ports on 8.1-RELEASE (i386). ~/print/latex-cjk doesn't want to build. ===> Patching for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to texinput/Bg5/c00bsmi.fd.rej => Patch patch-texinput-Bg5-c00bsmi.fd failed to apply cleanly. Are you sure the work area is clean? Run `make clean', then `make patch' again. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
problem updating ports (latex-cjk)
Hello, I ran into a problem when updating ports on 8.1-RELEASE (i386). ~/print/latex-cjk doesn't want to build. ===> Patching for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to texinput/Bg5/c00bsmi.fd.rej => Patch patch-texinput-Bg5-c00bsmi.fd failed to apply cleanly. => Patch(es) patch-Makefile applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/latex-cjk. What can I do to fix this? Best regards, Fred Boatwright ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations
On 02/21/11 18:32, Gary Kline wrote: iF we throw out "gvim" since it is simply the GUI variant of vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab abbreviations that vi does? I ask this because I don't know wmany many people with speech imopairments or who cannot speak at all would be interested in using my version of vi/vim with it's .ex/.nex/.vimrc and my hundred+ abbreviations. The IM app, pidgin is not an editor, but it does let user use the mouse and/or arrow keys. pidgin also uses abbrvs. BEcause i type so slowly, i have my pidgin set up to use a slew of abbrev. [Well, not the obv's, like 'FWIW' :-) ... but other words. I would be interested in knowing how many list members _don't_ know vi and use another editor. just curious gary I have been using nedit for many years. It is very easy to use. It uses the mouse, arrow keys, etc. so you don't have to do multiple keystrokes. Vi is insane. I don't know what you mean about the abbreviations though. I don't think it does that. The current version in ports for 8.1-RELEASE has a problem requiring a simple patch when it is built. This was discussed here a couple weeks ago. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: wine questions
On 01/27/11 20:47, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. There's a downloadable version of the software on the site. If that works acceptably, the final hurdle would be whether it can communicate with the programmer by USB. The site says it's USB 2.0 and installs drivers on Windows, which doesn't bode well for the Wine/FreeBSD setup. It may work, although you have to expect that any support call will blame problems on the non-standard setup. It might be easier to start with open software and choose a programmer that is supported by it. For instance, devel/avrdude supports some faster programmers. Depends on what you need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I downloaded the programmer software and wine installed it without any problems (350 MB!). The software seems to run ok so far under wine. So the remaining issue is the USB connection. I found the USB port in /dev but to make the link I also need to know what Windows calls the USB port so the programmer software can find it. If one plugs a non-storage USB device into Windows without installing any specific driver, what does Windows call the USB port? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: nedit problem
On 02/06/11 19:36, b. f. wrote: Fred Boatwright wrote: On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote: Fred Boatwright wrote: After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 I have tried several editors that are horrible. Axe installed from packages dumps core. There were a lot of warnings that later versions of libraries were installed than axe was expecting. Does the maintainer need to know this? Sadly, there is no maintainer for that port. But yes, you should file a Problem Report (PR), so that people will know that there may be a problem: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/index.html Can you tell me how to install the Xorg patch to make nedit work? I have not worked with getting source code or compiling from source. I can do the edit on another computer. Get an up-to-date ports tree. (If you don't know what that means, read the relevant portions of the FreeBSD Handbook.) Place the attached patch (or a trimmed version of the patch from the PR that I cited earlier) in ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/files under a name like 'patch-dix__events.c', that begins with 'patch-', and doesn't overwrite any of the existing patches. In the ports/x11-servers/xorg-server directory, run 'make deinstall clean install&& make clean', or use your favorite third-party port updating tool to force an update of that port. (If you want to create a backup package of your patched version of xorg-server, and you are not using a port updating tool with this feature, then either 'make package' in that directory before running the final 'make clean', or use 'pkg_create -b "xorg-server-*"'.) I'm assuming that you are already using the latest version of x11-servers/xorg-server; if instead you are using an earlier version, and packages that depend on it, you will probably need to update them as well. b. The xorg patch installed ok. I was expecting it to be much more difficult! Nedit now works very well. Thanks for the help! Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: nedit problem
On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote: Fred Boatwright wrote: After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I have tried several editors that are horrible. Axe installed from packages dumps core. There were a lot of warnings that later versions of libraries were installed than axe was expecting. Does the maintainer need to know this? Can you tell me how to install the Xorg patch to make nedit work? I have not worked with getting source code or compiling from source. I can do the edit on another computer. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: nedit problem
On 02/06/11 00:53, b. f. wrote: Fred Boatwright wrote: After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. This is a known problem with many Motif-based applications, arising from a bug in recent versions of Xorg. It has been corrected upstream, and it is likely that this problem will be fixed when the ports freeze ends shortly after the release of FreeBSD 7.4 and 8.2, if not before. If you can't wait, you can try using the patches from: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=154510 b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I will just use another editor for a while. Thanks for the help. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
nedit problem
Hello, After updating all ports on 8.1-RELEASE, nedit has a problem. The right mouse button works ok in the toolbar but if it is pressed in the text area, for example to copy a block of text, the cursor changes shape and the X session becomes completely locked up. I have to stop X and restart it. I have tried to deinstall nedit and rebuild it but this didn't help. It is nedit-5.5 with Motif 2.2.3. Also, when nedit is started the following warnings are given: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-medium-o-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Cannot convert string "-*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-o-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct These warnings have been happening for some time but nedit otherwise has been working ok until the port update. xpdf gives similar warnings but seems to work ok. What can I do to resolve at least the lockup problem? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: wine questions
Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. There's a downloadable version of the software on the site. If that works acceptably, the final hurdle would be whether it can communicate with the programmer by USB. The site says it's USB 2.0 and installs drivers on Windows, which doesn't bode well for the Wine/FreeBSD setup. It may work, although you have to expect that any support call will blame problems on the non-standard setup. It might be easier to start with open software and choose a programmer that is supported by it. For instance, devel/avrdude supports some faster programmers. Depends on what you need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Hi Warren, I will try installing the Xeltek software as you suggest and go from there. If I get it to work ok I will post what I did. I use 680x0 and 8051 so the avr program isn't useful at this time. I need to program SPLDs and flash. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: wine questions
Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? If you were to be more specific about the device you're considering, someone may be able to suggest specifics. Sometimes Wine is surprising. This was the case when I managed to run the Arduino software on Wine under FreeBSD. That software speaks to the microcontroller via serial or USB-to-serial: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AVR/ArduinoWINE If your device speaks serial like that, it might work well. If it wants to do low-level hardware or anything uncommon, it probably will not work in Wine. If you have to get the device anyway, there's little harm in trying it on Wine. If it doesn't work, you've lost nothing but time, and probably not much of that. I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
wine questions
Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter
Da Rock wrote: On 01/25/11 01:14, Paul B Mahol wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, John R. Levine wrote: Is this a known problem? As far as I know, it's supposed to work. How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? # ifconfig em0 ether 01:17:a4:8f:04:5d Well, if it does not work it can be driver bug. In iwn case try to set MAC address of iwn before creating wlan or you will need to set same MAC on wlanX and iwn. Actually I can confirm that. I use lagg for failover, and I remember now you have to set the 'real' interface to the MAC of the other lagg member, not a 'psuedo-device' or it won't work. Same principle applies here. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Ethernet MAC addresses are assigned by the manufacturer of the equipment. Each unit gets a unique address which generally can't be changed and shouldn't be changed. The manufacturer buys a block of addresses from the IEEE. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
portmaster question
Hello, According to man portmaster the -a option will "Update all ports that need updating". Does this apply to only installed ports or to everything in /usr/ports? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ghostscript install problem
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Fred writes: Hello, I am trying to install ghostscript8 from ports on 8.0-RELEASE-p4. The build stops when /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.64/epag-3.09/ert is to be installed in /usr/local/bin. The error is file not found. Error code 71. I tried going to the epag-3.09 directory: make clean make The following warnings are produced: ert.c: In function 'printUsageAndExit': ert.c:34: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c: In function 'main': ert.c:52: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'malloc' ert.c:55: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:63: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'strlen' ert.c:73: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:82: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:87: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:116: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' What can I do to resolve this problem? You could always start by updating your ports. At least that way, those of us with current versions of the port would be able to look at the same makefiles and so forth. That said, go back to the main port directory, make clean, make rmconfig, and build again; *don't* change the port options when given the choice (after all, the port did build on a clean system, so the problem's probably something you set up). Also make sure there's nothing relevant in /etc/make.conf. Another point: if you still have the problem after following this advice, copy-and-paste the actual errors, rather than trying to re-type it. Good luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Ghostscript8 compiled and installed ok. It was probably the rmconfig that fixed it. I had unset a lot of options that were of no value to me. Maybe one or more of them are not really optional. Concerning the copy & paste, root is not running X so there is no copy and paste. I tried redirecting error output from make with 2>$HOME/make_error but make sees the redirection as an instruction it does not know how to do. Thanks for the help. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
ghostscript install problem
Hello, I am trying to install ghostscript8 from ports on 8.0-RELEASE-p4. The build stops when /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.64/epag-3.09/ert is to be installed in /usr/local/bin. The error is file not found. Error code 71. I tried going to the epag-3.09 directory: make clean make The following warnings are produced: ert.c: In function 'printUsageAndExit': ert.c:34: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c: In function 'main': ert.c:52: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'malloc' ert.c:55: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:63: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'strlen' ert.c:73: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:82: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:87: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:116: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' What can I do to resolve this problem? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
ghostscript install problem
Hello, I am trying to install ghostscript8 from ports on 8.0-RELEASE-p4. The build stops when /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8/work/ghostscript-8.64/epag-3.09/ert is to be installed in /usr/local/bin. The error is file not found. Error code 71. I tried going to the epag-3.09 directory: make clean make The following warnings are produced: ert.c: In function 'printUsageAndExit': ert.c:34: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c: In function 'main': ert.c:52: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'malloc' ert.c:55: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:63: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'strlen' ert.c:73: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:82: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:87: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' ert.c:116: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' What can I do to resolve this problem? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Fred Boatwright wrote: Until FBSD X is working on the pc I have to use Netscape 4.79 on a Sun running Solaris 2.6 (which I would prefer to keep using if only a modern browser was available) ... If the problems with X on FBSD are limited to the X "server" (display subsystem), perhaps you can run X "clients" (such as a recent version of FireFox) on the FBSD box with DISPLAY set to the Solaris box. The simplest way of doing this is to ssh into the FBSD box from an xterm (or rxvt, or whatever) on the Solaris box. Depending on how ssh is set up you may (or may not) need to specify -X to get the X protocol forwarded. Forwarding will result in DISPLAY being set to something like localhost:10.0 in the FBSD shell session, and it should "just work." ___ The problem I was having is fixed now. xrdb was hanging for some reason to be fixed later. However, I am very much interested in your suggestion and planned to post some questions about how to do it when I had time to work on it. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Frank Shute wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > > On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > The .xinitrc file: > > > xrdb > > > xsetroot -solid gray & > > > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > > > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > > > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > > > exec fvwm > > > > Is this file executable? > > It doesn't have to be executable but xrdb needs arguments or it just > waits for input. > > My suggestion to Fred: drop the xrdb line in his ~/.xinitrc > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html Well, some progress has been made! The .xinitrc file is not executable. I found the file on my Sun running Solaris 2.6. That file also does not have execute permissions but it has #!/bin/sh at the beginning. However, that doesn't appear to be needed under FBSD. I tried an empty .Xresources file but that didn't make any difference. Commenting out the xrdb does allow the window manager to start. The .xinitrc file was generated from an example in the man page for xinit, not the Handbook as I earlier stated. So, I can move forward again. Thank you very much for the help. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Jerry wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block articulated: > > > Those would be the nVidia binary drivers. There's also > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. I avoid nVidia cards, so someone else > > will have to comment on those. > > I came to this party late, so please excuse me if this has been > discussed. > > 1) Ha the user installed the latest nVidia driver from ports: > > Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 > Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver > Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering > > And it accompanying utilities: > > Port: nvidia-settings-195.36.31 > Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings > Info: Display Control Panel for X NVidia driver > > Port: nvidia-xconfig-195.36.31 > Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig > Info: Tool to manipulate X configuration files for the NVidia driver > > And installed a line in the /boot/loader.conf file for this driver: > > nvidia_load="YES" # nVidia video driver > > 2) After doing the above, if not done previously, reboot the > system. > > 3) Move to the "/etc/X11" directory and run as root: nvidia-xconfig" > The "man nvidia-xconfig" file will supply all the details. You really > should not run it with any command line arguments the first time. > > 4) Now start 'xorg" and run as root: "nvidia-settings". That should > complete the process. You may have to reload 'xorg' for all settings to > take affect. Please see "man nvidia-settings" for full details. > > -- > Jerry â?? > freebsd.u...@seibercom.net > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __ > > 40 isn't old, if you are a tree. > ___ Hi Jerry, I do not have the driver you suggest on the CD. I have: nividia-driver nividia-driver-173 nividia-driver-71 nividia-driver-96 Which should be used? I was not able to find the version you mentioned with the freebsd website ports search function. Since Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro works then I think the default vesa driver should work until the other problems are sorted out. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Eitan Adler wrote: > >>> The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely > >>> black screen.  Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro  produces the expected > >>> grid and mouse pointer.  A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window > >>> manager. > >> > >> Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black > >> screen is "expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? > > > > The .xinitrc file: > > xrdb > > xsetroot -solid gray & > > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > > exec fvwm > > > > I have also tried twm. > > This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. > > Check if you actually have those programs installed. If not, you need > to install these ports: x11/xrdb, x11/xsetroot, x11/xterm, x11/xconsole, > x11-wm/fvwm. > Those programs are actually installed. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:41:49PM -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Warren Block wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: > > > > > > > Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > > > > > First notes: > > > > > > You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. > > > > > > Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > > > > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > > huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the > > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > > > > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > > everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on > > adding fonts. > > > > While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of > > nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install > > them now or wait. > > > > For x11/xorg-minimal installation you issued the command: > > "make install" or "make install VIDEO_DRIVER=your_video_driver" ? > > Without the mention of the driver it installs the vesa driver only. > This is sub-optimal, an options screen with all existing drivers should > be proposed. > > -- > Marc I used make install as I had no way of knowing that additional drivers could be selected. Perhaps that should be an option to the sysinstall program when FBSD is initially being installed. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Eitan Adler wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Eitan Adler wrote: > >> > >> >> Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > >> > > >> > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > >> > huge amount of software that will never get used. Ä? I don't want all the > >> > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > >> > > >> > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > >> > everything else is working. Ä? I think the Handbook has a section on > >> > adding fonts. > >> > > >> > >> Hi, > >> I'm the maintainer of x11/xorg-minimal. I have not been following this > >> thread. > >> > >> Did you have problems with fonts when installing x11/xorg-minimal ? > >> > >> -- > >> Eitan Adler > > > > Hi Eitan, > > The Xorg.0.log file shows it can't find some expected fonts.  The file > > is at > > http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > These are harmless. X.org will work without them which is why I didn't > depend on them on x11/xorg-minimal > > > The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely > > black screen.  Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro  produces the expected > > grid and mouse pointer.  A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window > > manager. > Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black > screen is "expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? > > > > > Best regards, > > Fred > > > > -- > Eitan Adler The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray & xterm -geometry +0-100 & xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm I have also tried twm. This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. I don't understand why xterm and xconsole are to be started before the window manager. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Eitan Adler wrote: > > >> Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. > > > > I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a > > huge amount of software that will never get used. Â I don't want all the > > stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. > > > > It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when > > everything else is working. Â I think the Handbook has a section on > > adding fonts. > > > > Hi, > I'm the maintainer of x11/xorg-minimal. I have not been following this thread. > > Did you have problems with fonts when installing x11/xorg-minimal ? > > -- > Eitan Adler Hi Eitan, The Xorg.0.log file shows it can't find some expected fonts. The file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely black screen. Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro produces the expected grid and mouse pointer. A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window manager. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Warren Block wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: > > > Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log > > First notes: > > You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. > > Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on adding fonts. While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install them now or wait. Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Glen Barber wrote: > > On 8/21/10 7:12 PM, Warren Block wrote: > >> I changed the driver from vesa to nVidia but the nVidia driver could not > >> be found and X exited. After restoring vesa I ran the test on xorg.conf > >> -retro and it worked ok. However, startx still produced only a black > >> screen. > > > > nVidia is a long story. There are binary drivers provided by nVidia, > > and there's a limited open-source driver provided by xorg. Someone else > > is going to have to provide detail. > > > > For now, vesa at 1024x768 should be fine. > > Just curious - why are you using vesa instead of nv (not nVidia)? > > Regards, > > -- > Glen Barber > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Glen, Vesa is what Xorg -configure comes up with. Should the nVidia driver name be nv? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Warren Block wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > .xinitrc > > xrdb > > xsetroot -solid gray & > > xterm -geometry +0-100 & > > xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & > > #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font > > exec fvwm > > Before trying a different window manager, try good old twm. > > > xorg.conf > > Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "X.org Configured" > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > EndSection > > If you're running hal, those InputDevice sections aren't needed. > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > Driver "kbd" > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Protocol" "auto" > > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > > EndSection > > These InputDevice definitions are also unnecessary with hal. > > > Section "Monitor" > > Identifier "Monitor0" > > VendorName "HP" > > ModelName"2009" > > ModeLine "1600x900" 108.0 1600 1624 1704 1800 900 901 904 1000 > > Option "DPMS" > > EndSection > > Modelines are... well, avoid them unless they are required. > > > Section "Device" > >### Available Driver options are:- > >### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > >### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > >### [arg]: arg optional > >#Option "ShadowFB" # [] > >#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] > >#Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] > > Identifier "Card0" > > Driver "vesa" > > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > > BoardName "NV44 [GeForce 6200 A-LE]" > > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > > EndSection > > The nVidia driver should produce better results than vesa. > > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Screen0" > > Device "Card0" > > Monitor"Monitor0" > > DefaultDepth 24 > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 24 > > Modes "1600x900" > > EndSubSection > > EndSection > > Finally, starting with a more common resolution like 1024x768 may help. > Get it working first, then polish one thing at a time so you can tell > what works. > > > Is there is somewhere I can park the log file that you would have access > > to? I don't know of any way to provide a link to it here. > > http://pastebin.com/ is popular. > > > The log file says: (--) using VT number 9. This does not exist in > > /etc/ttys and I didn't find anywhere in the Handbook chapter that says > > it needs to be added. > > xorg creates it automatically. It's the alt-F9 to switch from console > to X. > > > The log file generated by Xorg -configure appears to have everything > > there is to know about the monitor being used. These values were > > manually put in the xorg.conf file. However, the log file says: > > (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1600x900" (no mode of this name) > > However, the xorg.conf test did work. > > vesa may not be able to handle that resolution. 1024x768 is a safe > starting value. Hello Warren, I installed twm and changed .xinitrc to run it. I commented out the sections of xorg.conf that you suggested and changed the resolution. I changed the driver from vesa to nVidia but the nVidia driver could not be found and X exited. After restoring vesa I ran the test on xorg.conf -retro and it worked ok. However, startx still produced only a black screen. I was not able to make heads or tails out of the pastebin.com site. Until FBSD X is working on the pc I have to use Netscape 4.79 on a Sun running Solaris 2.6 (which I would prefer to keep using if only a modern browser was available). Netscape doesn't work on most web sites anymore. Is there someplace I could ftp or email the log file? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Hi Matthew, The .xinitrc file starts fvwm. I have not found any error message that would indicate fvwm is not running. One of the common failure modes you mention is probably what I have! Best regards, Fred Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 21/08/2010 18:13:09, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > The screen is completely black. No mouse pointer. When the xorg.conf > > file is tested using Xorg -conf xorg.conf.new -retro I get the gray grid > > and the X mouse pointer. Without the -retro I get a totally black > > screen, no mouse pointer. > > Um yes. That's what the '-retro' flag does: reintroduce the grid > pattern etc. that lets you confirm X is responsive, rather than the new > and really not at all improved behaviour of just throwing up a black > screen which is remarkably similar to some common failure modes. > > Try starting up a window manager or similar. It might be that nothing > at all is actually wrong... > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > >Name: signature.asc >signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature > Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xorg Problems
Warren Block wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > I am having trouble setting up X similar to a previous posting. I have > > a new 8.0 installation. > > > > Using the Handbook chapter suggested below I waas able to generate and > > edit an xorg.conf file. It tests ok. I generated a .xinitrc file based > > on an example in the Handbook. When a user runs startx the screen > > completely blanks out. It is possible to return to the command line > > prompt with ctrl-alt-F1 and then ^c. No errors are listed. Where would > > I look for the problem? > > [please don't top-post, it makes responding more difficult] > > Could you show your .xinitrc? Also, the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are > often useful. Links to those files may be easier to post than the files > themselves. > > When you say the screen is completely blank--is there a mouse pointer? Hello, The screen is completely black. No mouse pointer. When the xorg.conf file is tested using Xorg -conf xorg.conf.new -retro I get the gray grid and the X mouse pointer. Without the -retro I get a totally black screen, no mouse pointer. .xinitrc xrdb xsetroot -solid gray & xterm -geometry +0-100 & xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 & #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dri2" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "HP" ModelName"2009" ModeLine "1600x900" 108.0 1600 1624 1704 1800 900 901 904 1000 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "DefaultRefresh"# [] #Option "ModeSetClearScreen"# [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "vesa" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV44 [GeForce 6200 A-LE]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 # SubSection "Display" # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 1 # EndSubSection # SubSection "Display" # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 4 # EndSubSection # SubSection "Display" # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 8 # EndSubSection # SubSection "Display" # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 15 # EndSubSection # SubSection "Display" # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 16 # EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection EndSection Is there is somewhere I can park the log file that you would have access to? I don't know of any way to provide a link to it here. The log file has warnings that mouse and keyboard are disabled and other places where mouse and keyboard are enabled. However, in the test
Re: Xorg Problems
Hello, I am having trouble setting up X similar to a previous posting. I have a new 8.0 installation. Using the Handbook chapter suggested below I waas able to generate and edit an xorg.conf file. It tests ok. I generated a .xinitrc file based on an example in the Handbook. When a user runs startx the screen completely blanks out. It is possible to return to the command line prompt with ctrl-alt-F1 and then ^c. No errors are listed. Where would I look for the problem? Best regards, Fred Warren Block wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Ondrej Majerech wrote: > > > On 19-Aug-10 13:20, Rem Roberti wrote: > >> I'm having trouble with xorg on a new 8.1 installation. I haven't > >> installed a wm yet, but when I try to call up the generic x windows by > >> typing "startx" they do indeed appear, but all three of the x windows > >> are locked up. By that I mean that there is no mouse, and no possibility > >> of entering data in the windows via the keyboard. Totally frozen. And > >> you can't get out of x in the usual manner i.e. ctrl-alt-backspace. The > >> only thing that works is ctrl-alt-del which, of course, reboots the > >> computer. Any ideas are appreciated. > > The Handbook chapter describes what to do: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > > > "New" Xorg requires HAL and Dbus to recognize input devices by default. Do > > you have these enabled? > > > > Alternatively, you revert to the old, no-HAL method by adding > > > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" > > Yes. > > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" > > No. Please don't use that, it's not necessary and sometimes causes > problems. AutoAddDevices "Off" by itself disables hal input device > detection. > > > into your ServerFlags in xorg.conf. > > Or just put them in ServerLayout. > > > You might also want to add Option "DontZap" "false" into the same section as > > well to have Ctrl-Alt-Backspace working again. > > I think that DontZap is back to the default, but it's now the key > combination that is unset, so setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > is the way to fix it. But it's been a while since I've needed to kill > X manually, so haven't tried it lately. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: X11 question
Indeed you are right. I installed xinit from ports but something didn't happen as it should have. I tried again using pkg_add as you suggested and startx does exist now. I installed olvwm several days ago and it did not pull in the xorg stuff also. Thanks for the help! Best regards, Fred Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > pkg_info | grep xinit doesn't return anything > > > then, you doesn't have installed xinit, and startx can't be here > pkg_add -rv xinit > and then, if it doesn't fail, try again: > rehash > which startx > > > rehash > > which startx > > startx: Command not found > > > > whereis X > > X: /usr/local/bin/X > > > > pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X > > pkg_which: Command not found > > > > Oliver: I used your porgle tool to find pkg_which and will install it > > later. Porgle appears to be a very useful tool. > > > > I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg > > instead. However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like > > it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used. I am > > reluctant to do this. I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I > > want to run olvwm for a desktop. I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the > > OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to > > perfection as one can get. I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to > > move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using > > OpenWindows. It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm > > to work. Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed? > > > > Best regards, > > Fred > > > > Tim Kellers wrote: > > > > > > Fred, > > > > > > From man startx(1): > > > > > > SEE ALSO > > > xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5) > > > > > > Try: > > > > > > # whereis X > > > > > > If X is installed, it should return: > > > > > > # X: /usr/local/bin/X > > > > > > pkg_which if X is installed should return: > > > > > > # pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X > > > > > > xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > > > > > > If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed: > > > > > > Try: > > > > > > # whereis xorg > > > > > > xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > > > > > If xorg isn't installed, cd to: > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > > > > > and > > > > > > make config-recursive (If you add any options, run make > > > config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns) > > > > > > and then > > > > > > make install clean > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Tim Kellers > > > > > > On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > > > Hi Oliver and Tim, > > > > > > > > I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist. whereis returns > > > > nothing and man startx returns nothing. > > > > > > > > Fred > > > > > > > > Tim Kellers wrote: > > > > > > > >> /usr/ports/x11/xinit > > > >> > > > >> On my system (with X, obviously, already installed): > > > >> > > > >> beta# whereis startx > > > >> > > > >> startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz > > > >> > > > >> beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx > > > >> > > > >> xinit-1.2.0 > > > >> > > > >> beta# whereis xinit > > > >> > > > >> xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz > > > >> /usr/ports/x11/xinit > > > >> > > > >> I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file: > > > >> /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr > > > >> there is this description: > > > >> > > > >> This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's > > production > > > >> release). > > > >> > > > >> Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not > > > >> been verified as compliant. > > > >> > > > >> It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 fro
Re: X11 question
pkg_info | grep xinit doesn't return anything rehash which startx startx: Command not found whereis X X: /usr/local/bin/X pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X pkg_which: Command not found Oliver: I used your porgle tool to find pkg_which and will install it later. Porgle appears to be a very useful tool. I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg instead. However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used. I am reluctant to do this. I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I want to run olvwm for a desktop. I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to perfection as one can get. I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using OpenWindows. It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm to work. Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed? Best regards, Fred Tim Kellers wrote: > > Fred, > > From man startx(1): > > SEE ALSO > xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5) > > Try: > > # whereis X > > If X is installed, it should return: > > # X: /usr/local/bin/X > > pkg_which if X is installed should return: > > # pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X > > xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > > If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed: > > Try: > > # whereis xorg > > xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > If xorg isn't installed, cd to: > > /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > and > > make config-recursive (If you add any options, run make > config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns) > > and then > > make install clean > > HTH > > Tim Kellers > > On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Hi Oliver and Tim, > > > > I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist. whereis returns > > nothing and man startx returns nothing. > > > > Fred > > > > Tim Kellers wrote: > > > >> /usr/ports/x11/xinit > >> > >> On my system (with X, obviously, already installed): > >> > >> beta# whereis startx > >> > >> startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz > >> > >> beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx > >> > >> xinit-1.2.0 > >> > >> beta# whereis xinit > >> > >> xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz > >> /usr/ports/x11/xinit > >> > >> I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file: > >> /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr > >> there is this description: > >> > >> This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production > >> release). > >> > >> Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not > >> been verified as compliant. > >> > >> It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge. > >> The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented. > >> > >> This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+. > >> > >> Tim Kellers > >> > >> On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Where would I find startx? I assume it is part one of the ports under > >>> X11 > >>> but I don't want to install all of them to find it. > >>> > >>> Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk? > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Fred > >>> > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: X11 question
Hi Oliver and Tim, I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist. whereis returns nothing and man startx returns nothing. Fred Tim Kellers wrote: > > /usr/ports/x11/xinit > > On my system (with X, obviously, already installed): > > beta# whereis startx > > startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz > > beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx > > xinit-1.2.0 > > beta# whereis xinit > > xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz > /usr/ports/x11/xinit > > I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file: > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr > there is this description: > > This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production > release). > > Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not > been verified as compliant. > > It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge. > The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented. > > This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+. > > Tim Kellers > > On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Where would I find startx? I assume it is part one of the ports under > > X11 > > but I don't want to install all of them to find it. > > > > Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Fred > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
X11 question
Hello, Where would I find startx? I assume it is part one of the ports under X11 but I don't want to install all of them to find it. Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: firefox install problem
Hello Steve, I have not had any luck installing the package manually. The file is a tar.gz which pkg_add apparently can't handle. I did download firefox.tar.gz and unpacked it. Pkg_info says it is corrupt. Changes were apparently made to this package about two weeks ago and possibly something didn't happen correctly. Should this be reported to a different mail list or should a bug report be made? Or am I mistaken? If a package needed to be installed manually, how would pkg_add know to get all the dependencies remotely? Firefox has a huge list of dependencies which would be very difficult to deal with manually. Best regards, Fred Steven Susbauer wrote: > > On 08/09/10 22:17, Fred Boatwright wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have installed FreeBSD-8.0 from the CD and have it running ok. I have > > installed several packages including thunderbird using pkg_add -r > > package_name. When I try to install firefox I get a file unavailable > > error. The web site shows firefox-3.6.8,1 is available (i386). What > > can I do to install firefox? > > > > You can manually download the package from a mirror and then install it > with pkg_add (pkg_add firefox-3.6.8,1.tbz). > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
firefox install problem
Hello, I have installed FreeBSD-8.0 from the CD and have it running ok. I have installed several packages including thunderbird using pkg_add -r package_name. When I try to install firefox I get a file unavailable error. The web site shows firefox-3.6.8,1 is available (i386). What can I do to install firefox? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Jul 3, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600, Modulok wrote: That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. "Finally! Real documentation!" There ware two things that I found to be solved better in FreeBSD than in various Linusi: 1. Amount of manual pages: FreeBSD does not only document commands, it documents configuration files, kerlen interfaces, library functions and maintenance procedures. The tradition of manual pages furthermore is carried by third party software (ports), e. g. "man opera" - you would not guess that it existed. In the opposite, try to find a manpage of some KDE program (as if anyone would read manpages for KDE things). 2. Quality of documentation: The manpages are excellently written. No "look at our Wiki" or "this page intentionally left free" there. furthermore, the OS's source is very tidy, uses good names for functions, variables and datatypes, and has lots of useful comments. As a developer, documentation is a MUST HAVE for me. Having all the documentation avaliable "off line" right after installation is very good. Sadly, Linux didn't (doesn't?) offer this. I agree, the linux documentation is very scarce. Having good man pages is very convenient, specially when you are in a data center with just a console on a cart. Having to go online to check some badly organised wiki is not always convenient or possible. I also have my share of frustration with the logs. The messages in the log files are often inconsistent and unhelpful. In this following example the kernel is reporting a disk error but forgot to specify the most important information, the disk. Jul 3 00:07:53 locdata204 kernel: [5706229.55] res 41/40:00:52:4a:73/83:02:27:00:00/00 Emask 0x9 (media error) -fred- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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This is a dumb Question which I should know the answer to. I can get gdm to recogize my logins but xdm and wdm wont accept my username/password entrys what am I forgetting? Frederick D. Terp 14985 Rivers Edge Court #135 Fort Myers, Florida 33908-7920 Phone: (239) 822-5439 Email: fdt...@juno.com Free health insurance quotes. Great rates for individuals and families. Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIn7Iad9XDKaGfKAW6jcrGnkqx3IlKfkpWJvLloNKnO52lR8AfTiw/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to recover disk space after "filesystem full"
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Luke Dean wrote: > > Yes, it sounds like a stupid question, but let me tell the story. > > The log for my dhcp server filled up /var last night, which meant that > dhcpd was also unable to hand out new leases, which meant that I had > effectively been DOSed. I'll have to look into changing my logging > policies. > > So, to correct the problem, I log into the router, removed the big > log and several other files in /var to free up some space, and assumed > this would correct the problem. > > It did not. > Several minutes after freeing up a lot of space on /var, I continued > to get "filesystem full" messages and "df" continued to show the > capacity at >100%. I checked "df -i" for the inodes too. That was > fine. I ran a quick fsck to see if that might shock the system into > seeing all the space that I'd freed up, but no good. > > I ended up rebooting the box. > > Was there any other possible solution I could've tried? > > Why wouldn't the free space immediately appear as free? Because unlinking the file does not close the file. Restarting the dhcp daemon probably would have done the trick. The filesystem will free the disk space only when all references to the file have gone away. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: basic
On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: LMAO! Touché! Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :) I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows. -fred- -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org ] On Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:52 PM To: J Sisson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: basic That project already exist it is called linux... -fred- On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote: That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and flood it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they booted without a GUI. And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you know...for performance reasons. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello wrote: Do you want obtain new market share? Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best seller Regards Giorgio Novello Vb developer Italy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Computers are like air conditioners... They quit working when you open Windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org " ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org " "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org " ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: basic
That project already exist it is called linux... -fred- On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote: That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and flood it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they booted without a GUI. And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you know...for performance reasons. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello wrote: Do you want obtain new market share? Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and your OS will be a best seller Regards Giorgio Novello Vb developer Italy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Computers are like air conditioners... They quit working when you open Windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org " ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
msk0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx interrupts)
Hi, I recently upgraded from 6.3 to 7.1 (7.1-RELEASE-p4) with freebsd-update, and I now have problems with msk0 very often (which I did have before) : Mar 30 20:14:19 blackbox kernel: msk0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx interrupts) -- recovering Mar 30 20:14:58 blackbox kernel: msk0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx interrupts) -- recovering ... which lead to not being able to access the net at all. I saw some people had this issue at different version of fbsd etc, due to some issue of the nic itself that had to be workaround, so I tried some early source code for msk : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/msk/?only_with_tag=RELENG_7 but I still have this issue (I make buildkernel, installkernel; at first I only compiled the module, but it seems that in 7.3 it's in the kernel itself so that the module won't load) Here is some info from dmesg about my nic: mskc0: port 0x7c00-0x7cff mem 0xfddfc000-0xfddf irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 msk0: on mskc0 msk0: Ethernet address: 00:50:43:00:45:3e miibus0: on msk0 mskc0: [FILTER] Thanks for you help, this issue is really painful, F. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Finding Dependencies
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jerry wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:16:19 + > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > [snip] > > >man (1) pkg_info > > > >-r what the package depends on > >-R what depends on the package > > It does not list any package that depends on it. I have no idea why it > is being installed. Try running this command to make sure all dependencies are correctly recorded: # portmaster --check-depends Portmaster is itself a (very lightweight) port: ports-mgmt/portmaster ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: World doesn't build correctly
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Frank Wißmann wrote: > Am Dienstag 17 Februar 2009 21:20:15 schrieb Polytropon: >> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:14:58 +0100, Frank Wißmann > wrote: >> > What is going wrong here? Why isn't ther build a 7_STABLE as I >> > desire? What do I need to change to get my wanted results? >> >> Are you sure you have the correct sources? How did you update them? >> >> I'm using the following settings (as an example): >> >> In /etc/make.conf: >> >> SUP_UPDATE= yes >> SUP=/usr/bin/csup >> SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 >> SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org >> SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup >> >> And in /etc/sup/stable.sup: >> >> *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org >> *default base=/var/db >> *default prefix=/usr >> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 >> *default delete use-rel-suffix >> *default compress >> src-all >> >> For csup, the tag is "RELENG_7". You used "7_STABLE", maybe this is >> the reason why you checked out the sources of 7.0-RELEASE? > > Well, I used your settings of "default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7", but > the answer is still this: > FreeBSD grissom.einundvierzig.org 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: > Wed Feb 18 21:36:57 CET 2009 > r...@grissom.einundvierzig.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GRISSOM amd64 > > Any ideas, folks? Or should I post something more? You know you have to build and install the world and kernel after performing a csup, right? See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html (Auf Deutsch: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: No periodic daily?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Kurt Buff wrote: > All, > > I'm having a strange issue with one of my boxes. It's the router for our DS3: > > router#uname -a > FreeBSD router.mycompany.com 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Mon May > 19 01:16:12 PDT 2008 > r...@router.mycompany.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > The machine has stopped sending periodic daily and security reports, > though I'm getting weekly and monthly reports. I see nothing in the > syslogs to indicate any problems. > > If I issue, as root, the command 'periodic daily', it just hangs until > I press ^C to break out of it, then it comes back with > > router# periodic daily > ^C > (Interrupt -- one more to kill letter) > > and sends an email, with the following contents: > > Removing stale files from /var/preserve: > > Cleaning out old system announcements: > > Removing stale files from /var/rwho: > > But nothing else - certainly much less than I get from my other boxes. > > Running 'periodic security' also hangs, but when I interrupt with ^C, > I get no output at all, either at the prompt or in email. > > > I plan on rebooting it this evening - is there anything I can do in > the meantime to diagnose the issue? > > Kurt At a minimum, we'd want to see the contents of /etc/periodic.conf (as an aside) Any reason you're running an unpatched 7.0 on your router? 7.0 is up to around patch 10. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg_info & php
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I am getting 'segmentation faults' when using php (apache module) on a server > that recently had php 4 instlalled when php 5 was already there. > > /var/log/httpd-error.log: > > [Tue Jan 06 09:44:39 2009] [notice] child pid 8209 exit signal Segmentation > fault (11) > > Is there a way to completely remove all hints of php 5? Do you think this > would stop the segmentation faults? > > Uname -a: > > FreeBSD servername 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 22 02:59:38 > EST 2007 ... i386 > > Output of pkg_info: > [snip list of pkg_info output] > > > Thanks, > > -Grant It sounds like you need fixphpextorder.sh: http://www.pingle.org/2006/10 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Behaviour of su(1)
Use this syntax (both equivalent): su - root su -l root You do have to specify the user with -l. Perhaps the man page could clarify that. On Oct 31, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Frédéric Perrin wrote: Hello, When I « su - » to root (after being logged in as my normal user), the LOGNAME env variable is still set to my previous user, as in : , | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% /usr/bin/su -l | Password: | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $USER - $LOGNAME | root - fred ` As far as I can tell, this contradicts the fine manual that says : , | -l Simulate a full login. The environment is discarded except for | HOME, SHELL, PATH, TERM, and USER. ` So I would have expected LOGNAME to be either empty or set by some shell startup script to be root. So, why is LOGNAME still equal to my previous user ? (and where is it set ? « grep -r LOGNAME /etc » doesn't turn up anything...) This is an issue because emacs, for instance, uses $LOGNAME to load the init-file. I could always add « export LOGNAME=root » to my shell startup file, but this doesn't quite feel right... GNU su (as it is ocnfigured in Debian at least) resets LOGNAME to root in the same situation. (and by the way, GNU su seems broken : if I « gsu -l root », I always get a 'Password incorrect' answer). As a side question, is it considered bad practice to set root's shell and locales to something else then the default ? -- Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: an even dumber q: how do i get sage's ports-ypgrade working?
On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Late last December my small network began falling apart. Still not sure how, but a fellow from Dallas came to my rescue and from his home, slowly rebuilt and re-configured everything. E.g.: for one thing, where I hack sendmail working via various kludges, he set up imap. I had thought that was mostly for students He also filled me in on jails. Previously, I had my 1998 Kayak doing DNS and mail and web solo. Jon created a jail and set things up there. He used NFS to bring over things from a faster computer. That's well and good; it makes sense to compile a suite that takes days on sage [Kayak @ 400MHz] on my Dell8200 [2.4GHZ]. A few days ago I realized that I was missing some simple programs on sage. I went into ports: empty. Years ago there was a standalone script that let you fix or tune things. I thought it was on the hard drive as well as the CD set. Anybody? thanks for any clues! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org You don't mention which version of FreeBSD you're using, but if it's at all recent, portsnap is your friend: # mkdir -p /usr/ports && portsnap fetch extract # Do this once to fetch and set up the ports collection initially Then add this to root's crontab: 1 3 * * * /usr/sbin/portsnap cron update If portsnap is not on your system, you should probably upgrade, but you could try the packagge: # pkg_add -r portsnap Also, if you're administering a bunch of jails, ezjail is also your friend. See http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ (website is a bit out of date; 3.0 is released and in the ports collection). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: kwik question re virt websites...
On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Guys, When I restarted apache22, there was a warning that something was missing. It had nothing [ hopefully ] to do with the new virtual site I want to set up. Can anybody tell me what the following error is? I do have an index.html file in /usr/local/www/cryonics. Also have the entries in the apache22/Includes/httpd* and in my namedb/* files. I have more that five virtual websites; what am I forgetting here?? gary lynx: Can't access startfile http://cryonics.thought.org/ -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org It's your DNS: $ host cryonics.thought.org Host cryonics.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: php5 segfault
On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Michael Powell wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:51:00PM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote: [snip] So it is using -O2 and -pipe. Is this something that I can disable? If you want. "make config" in /usr/ports/lang/php5 will give you a menu option for DEBUG; turn it on. I'm not sure what the compile options you're showing have *anything* to do with the segfault you're reporting. I don't see any backtraces or details of the segfault. I've used -pipe -O2 for years and never had it cause me trouble. It might be because we are using postgresql connections. For pages without pgsql connection, there is no segfault. Still using MySQL so I can't speak to PostgreSQL PHP connectivity. I've personally used PHP5 (as a CGI only, not as an Apache module) with PostgreSQL and experienced no segfaults. It must be noted that the segfault happens on cleanup. E.g. all web sites are working fine, except that we are getting many many segfault messages in the logs all the time. This will inhibit performance. The ones that are failing are having the script(s) restarted. If you can fix this performance will improve. Many people have found that re-ordering the "extensions" lines in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini has solved odd segfaults. I personally have never seen this, nor have ever needed to adjust that file, but it has worked for others. One quickie shortcut to try as experimentation is to just comment out hash.so in extensions.ini. I have had trouble with this one, ie to the extent Apache wouldn't even start. I've read/heard about the reorder thing too and never needed it. What I suspect is there is a possibility that what happened is people went in after the fact and installed xyz extensions after the first main install after discoverring they forgot or left out something they needed. This results in the line(s) just getting tacked on at the bottom. If they had wiped all PHP and done it again from scratch the list in extensions.ini would then be correct. Only a theory on my part. Also, you cannot use a threaded Apache (e.g. threaded MPMs) with PHP since not all extensions support threading. Your Apache needs to be built without threads and use a non-thread model (e.g. prefork). I've also had success with Apache-ITK-mpm. This is very true for mod_php, but less so if PHP is run as FastCGI. I am currently running a box at work with the event mpm and mod_fcgid for testing and it seems to be doing well. YMMV Search the mailing lists for this situation, try the recommendations, and then if nothing fixes it, provide a backtrace. The normal default of error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE is present, but if you want it to log to it's own file uncomment ;error_log = filename (or syslog if you prefer). You may need to do a 'touch on the and make it's permissions match those the webserver runs under. If things get really bad take a look at http://www.xdebug.org/ I don't think this really belongs on a production machine (IMHO), but I have used it on my development server. Better as a last ditch effort probably. -Mike Have a look at http://www.pingle.org/2007/09/22/php-crashes-extensions-workaround PHP extensions have to be loaded in a particular order to avoid the segfaults at cleanup. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Mysqldump password issue
On Oct 2, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: Andrei Brezan wrote: Hello list, I wanna do a mysqldump -u user -ppasswd --all-databases > backup.sql and all I get is mysqldump: No match. This happens either i put --all-databases or I specify any of the databases. I want to do a backup as user root, that's why I use all-databases opt. If I use the command: mysqldump -u root -p --all-databases >backup.sql I get the password prompt, I type the passwd and everythig works great. It seems that there is a problem with -p, i've tried --password with same result. If anyone has any ideea please let me know about it. I mention that i use Freebsd 7_0 and mysql 5.0.67 My guess is that the password (which you've obviously elided) contains characters of syntactic significance to the shell. Any of the following will lead to wailing and gnashing of teeth: * ? [ < > & ; ! | $ Probably others as well. The general way to get round this is to put 'quote' marks around your password -- but this will only work if the password is a separate word on the command line -- ie. whitespace between it and any other tokens. I believe that the '-p' flag to MySQL is a bit painful in that regard as it doesn't allow whitespace between itself and the password. Hmmm... untested, but it should work if you just quote around the -p like so: '-ppassword'. Alternatively, just change the password to one containing less troublesome characters: a-zA-Z0-9:@#~+=-_^%., I recommend use of 'apg' to generate randomised but strangely memorable passwords. Oh, and simply making the password longer makes it much more secure even if you're limited to a relatively small alphabet. If consistent with your security policies, you can store the password in your ~/.my.cnf file: [client] user=db_user password=funny&password ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Best way to back up mysql database
I run a script from root's crontab (not /etc/crontab) and keep the
login credentials in /root/.my.cnf so they don't have to be embedded
in the script. Not that $gzip is defined as /bin/cat because I move
copies offsite via rsync and disk space is abundant. This script keeps
30 daily backups (configurable).
Crontab entry:
13 20 * * * cd /bak/databases && /root/db_backup
"db_backup" perl script:
#! /usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my $maxbackups = 30;
my $gz='gz';
my $mysqldump = '/usr/local/bin/mysqldump';
my $gzip = '/bin/cat';
my $newfile;
my $filename = 'all_databases.sql';
my $curfile = $filename . ".$maxbackups";
unlink $curfile if -f $curfile;
my ($i, $j);
for ($i = $maxbackups - 2; $i >= 0; $i--) {
$j = $i + 1;
$curfile = $filename . '.' . $i;
$newfile = $filename . '.' . $j;
rename $curfile, $newfile if -f $curfile;
}
$curfile = $filename . '.' . '0';
my $command = "$mysqldump --opt --all-databases | $gzip > $curfile";
my $result;
$result = system $command and warn "$result";
On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:22 PM, John Almberg wrote:
DATE=`date +%a`
#
echo $DATE
#
echo Backup Mysql database
mysqldump -h localhost -u YOURSQLUSERID -pYOURPASSWORD YOURDATABASE
>/usr/somedirectory/somefile_$DATE.backup
gzip -f /usr/somedirectory/somefile_$DATE.backup
/usr/bin/at -f /usr/somedirectory/mysqlbackup.sh midnight
Ah, a much simpler solution than my ruby script. I hadn't thought to
zip up the file before transferring it. That's an improvement I must
add.
Thanks: John
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Re: Google Chrome
On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:21 PM To: RW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, RW wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level- playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. So you mean that google is learning from the Microsoft mistakes. Or maybe google need to get along with the standards for now, but as soon as they have secured the market they will define the standards as they need it to be for their benefit. Since they are defining standards that are implemented in open source code under BSD license I don't see the problem. You can complain the day that Adobe releases the source for Acrobat Reader, and Flash, under BSD license, and Google closes the source for Chrome, OK? I am not saying what they are doing is not good for the community. Like everyone here I thing that's great. Not only because it's one more pice of freesoftware. Also because that will force web developers to use standards instead of specificities only available on IE. I am just saying that what they are doing is for their own good and not for the good of mankind. Their business model doesn't rely on software ownership but on data mining. -fred- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, RW wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level-playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. So you mean that google is learning from the Microsoft mistakes. Or maybe google need to get along with the standards for now, but as soon as they have secured the market they will define the standards as they need it to be for their benefit. -fred- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: defrag
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priority or order for /usr/local/etc/rc.d scripts?
Hi guys, Basically, I have 2 scripts in the folder /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ Resin.sh and apache.sh I need resin to be started when apache is starting, how can I do that? I cant find any documentation on priority or order for startup scripts. I have tried adding a line at the end of resin.sh to start apache.sh but it doesnt work. # uname -a FreeBSD www.mydomain.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Thanks for your help! -fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD, Xorg, Geode LX 500Mhz
Hi: I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 Release and I'm trying to get "X" to run on a Geode LX 500Mhz embedded board. When I startx, I get the following in the log file: c000:0282: A2 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE! (EE) VESA(0): Set VBE Mode failed! Fatal server error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 I've tried some drivers: xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.9.0.orig.tar.gz xserver-xorg-video-amd_2.7.6.5+git20070208.orig.tar.gz They ./configure fine, but I get all kinds of errors when I Make them. Any help would be appreciated Regards, Fred Schnittke Network Administrator -- There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't... Powered by Execulink Webmail http://www.execulink.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Apache and Environment
On May 10, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Nicolas Letellier wrote: Hello. I use apache13 and php5. When I do a phpinfo(), I can see in "Environment" sensibles datas when I launch apache in root. I see all my env variables (as MAIL, TERM, USER, PWD, LOGNAME, EDITOR, OSTYPE, LANG, etc, etc...). So, we see informations about user who launched apache. When apache is launched as boot (with apache_enable="YES"), I don't see these informations. I only see: HOME/ PATH/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin RC_PID 39 PWD / This is OK. There is no critical informations. How could I launch apache and mask these informations? I must reboot to have this default datas, else I see environment data about the user who lauch it. Thanks. -- - Nicolas. Instead of just $ su do this: $ su - root This will give you only root's environment. Then do your startup command for apache. -- Fred
Re: "X" Screensaver
Hi: I've installed FreeBSD 7.0, just a standard install with "X". I load XDM via /usr/local/etc/rc.d/x.sh, which states: /usr/local/bin/xset s off /usr/local/bin/xdm But I can't get the screensaver to disable. After about 10 minutes of sitting at the XDM Login Prompt, the screen goes blank. Can anyone tell me definately, how to disable the "X" screen saver for good, for all users? Regards, Fred Schnittke Network Administrator -- There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't... Powered by Execulink Webmail http://www.execulink.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Strange behavior with zfs
I have a FreeBSD box configured as a nfs server and a Mac with MacOS 10.5 as client. On my FBSD box I have a zfs pool exported as you can seen in the examples bellow. This filesystem is mounted on my Mac with the following command "mount_nfs -P ..." When I copy some files from the shell prompt everything works as expected. But when I use the Finder and drop files into this mounted directory I got the following errors: First message: You may need to enter the name and password for an administrator on this computer to change the item named "xxx.html" Second message: The item "xxx.html" contains on or more items you do not have permission to read. Do you want to copy the items you are allowed to read? Third message: The operation cannot ve copleted because you do not have sufficient privileges for some of the items. An empty file is created on the destination directory as shown bellow. 509:0-> ls -ltr /mnt2 total 265 -rw-r--r--@ 1 fred wheel 135662 Apr 4 13:33 background.jpg -- 1 fred wheel 0 Apr 4 14:01 xxx.html When I do the exact same operations on /export which is an UFS file system everything works as expected. I have to permissions errors. I am sorry for asking this long question on this group. Maybe the problem is Mac related, but since this happen only with zfs on a FreeBSD box, and a lot of people in this list use Macs, I thought you may have an answer to that problem. Here is somt information about FreeBSD Box: #mount /dev/ad3a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) space on /space (zfs, local) space/home on /space/home (zfs, NFS exported, local) /dev/md0 on /var (ufs, local) /dev/md1 on /tmp (ufs, local) /dev/da3a on /export (ufs, NFS exported, local) # showmount -e Exports list on localhost: /space/homeEveryone /exportEveryone # zpool status pool: space state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM space ONLINE 0 0 0 da0 ONLINE 0 0 0 da1 ONLINE 0 0 0 da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors # zfs list -o name,type,sharenfs,mountpoint NAME TYPE SHARENFS MOUNTPOINT space filesystem off /space space/home filesystem on/space/home -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: changed sendmail behavior on FreeBSD 7?
Hi, I am having the exact same problem with a server running FreeBSD-7.0. The hostname is : server1.mydomain.com MX for mydomain.com is not server1. sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] < test.msg will result in user unknown but sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] < test.msg will work. If anyone knows how to get around this? -fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris St Denis Sent: 31 mars 2008 16:29 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: changed sendmail behavior on FreeBSD 7? I've setup a new web server hostname doremi.ctgameinfo.com. When I try to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it tries to deliver it locally instead of to the mx server mx1.ctgameinfo.com. In previous versions this seems to work correctly. Why would it be trying to deliver locally this time? I'm running default sendmail config that comes with the standard install. Another server I have seems to have this problem even worse. It's a web server, and for any of the hundreds of domains hosted on it (www A records pointed at it, but MX records pointed elseware) it also tries to deliver locally. I was able to get this mostly working by using a smarthost to the actual mail server, but I don't understand why it would be ignoring the mx records. I've never had problems like these with previous versions. What has changed? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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I got two zonbu machines, and I am trying to run FreeBSD 7 on it. I am using tinybsd to make a bootable flash. So far everything seems to work fine but USB. Is there someone who have an idea why ? Thanks for any ideas. -fred- zonbu.boot Description: Binary data -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FreeBSD-6.3 only detects 3GB of RAM
Thank you all for your replies. I will install FreeBSD AMD64 and test my softwares to make sure everything works as it should. Mission critical softwares are the reasons why I was sticking to 32-bit OS on my servers. -fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivan Voras Sent: 27 mars 2008 10:37 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-6.3 only detects 3GB of RAM fred wrote: > I have read that OPTION PAE in kernel would fix the problem but I have > also read that compiling FreeBSD AMD64 might be a better solution, any > advices before I break my current setup? Except if you have a strong reason to stick with the 32-bit kernel, use AMD64. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD-6.3 only detects 3GB of RAM
Hello all, I am trying to fix an issue with my dual xeon ibm server, it only detects 3GB or RAM but I have 4GB: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz (3000.13-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d AMD Features=0x2000 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 3355234304 (3199 MB) avail memory = 3278614528 (3126 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs I have read that OPTION PAE in kernel would fix the problem but I have also read that compiling FreeBSD AMD64 might be a better solution, any advices before I break my current setup? Thanks -fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Timezone problem
Hello,
Thanks for your replies, for the records, here is the code we have modified
in order to fix the problem:
Changed:
return (long) -tmCurr.tm_gmtoff;
to:
return -tmCurr.tm_gmtoff + tmCurr.tm_isdst * 3600;
-fred
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Trulsson
Sent: 24 mars 2008 05:12
To: fred
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Timezone problem
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 04:05:39PM -0400, fred wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> First of all, sorry for the terrible English I will do my best, also I
don't
> have much programming knowledge only some PHP.
>
>
>
> I am having issues with a software that I run on my FreeBSD server
> (6.2-RELEASE). Here is a simple demonstration of the problem:
>
>
>
> This code:
>
>
>
> // CODE START
>
> #include
>
> #include
>
>
>
> int main() {
>
> extern long timezone1;
>
>
>
> tzset();
>
>
>
> printf("timezone is %d\n", timezone);
>
> printf("tzname[0] is %s\n", tzname[0]);
>
> printf("tzname[1] is %s\n", tzname[1]);
>
> return 0;
>
> }
>
> // CODE END
>
>
>
>
>
> Give this result:
>
>
>
> timezone is 134513672
>
> tzname[0] is EST
>
> tzname[1] is EDT
>
>
>
>
>
> The value of "timezone" should be "14400" which is the difference between
my
> timezone (EDT) and UTC in seconds.
What makes you think that that should be the value of 'timezone'?
It should not be.
You have not declared any variable with that name, nor does there exist any
variable with that name in the standard library.
What does exist is a function timezone() (See the timezone(3) manpage for
information on that function. It is not very useful.)
Now, in C a function name all by itself is equivalent to a pointer to that
function. The value '134513672' you get is simply the value of that
pointer.
If you had compiled your programs with all warnings enabled (use -Wall) then
the compiler would have complained that the argument to printf does not
match the format. ("%d" makes printf expect an integer, but you pass it a
pointer.)
Also, I am not sure that tzset(3) is guaranteed to initialize the tzdata[]
array, nor is tzset(3) all that portable (nor is usage of the tzdata[] array
very portable for that matter.)
A better (as in: working) version of your program would be the following:
#include
#include
int main() {
struct tm *lt;
time_t t;
t = time(NULL);
lt = localtime(&t);
printf("My timezone is %s\n", lt->tm_zone);
printf("timezone offset is %ld seconds\n", lt->tm_gmtoff);
return 0;
}
It is still not fully portable (the 'tm_zone' and 'tm_gmtoff' fields are
non-standard extenstions to 'struct tm'), but it makes use only of
documented features of FreeBSD.
A standard compliant solution would be to use localtime(3) in conjunction
with strftime(3), using the "%z" and "%Z" formats to strftime.
(The "%z" format is part of C99, but not of C89, so it will not be supported
by many older compilers.)
> This problem only appeared when we went
> from EST to EDT (daylight saving time) on march 9th. Anyone knows why I am
> getting "134513672" ?
>
>
>
> Here is some more information about my system:
>
>
>
> # date
>
> Sat Mar 22 15:24:42 EDT 2008
>
> # date -u
>
> Sat Mar 22 19:24:45 UTC 2008
>
> # gcc -v
>
> Using built-in specs.
>
> Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler Thread model: posix gcc
> version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305
>
> # uname -a
>
> FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank for the help!
>
>
>
--
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RE: Timezone problem
Yes, I have applied this patch: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-07:04.zoneinfo.asc I have also installed this port: /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo Which installs : tzdata2008a.tar.gz And I have obviously ran tzsetup, rebooted, but the problem persists. Thanks for help -fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chen Sent: 23 mars 2008 20:57 To: fred Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timezone problem On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 04:05:39PM -0400, fred wrote: [...] > The value of "timezone" should be "14400" which is the difference between my > timezone (EDT) and UTC in seconds. This problem only appeared when we went > from EST to EDT (daylight saving time) on march 9th. Anyone knows why I am > getting "134513672" ? The obvious question is: Have you updated your system for latest daylight savings changes? -- Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Laptop advice
On Mar 21, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: At 04:56 AM 3/21/2008, Joe Demeny wrote: I need to get a budget-priced laptop, such as one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101123 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114430 Does anyone have experience with these? Any suggestions for other comparable choices? I would choose the Toshiba, much better quality and support. You may want to look at Lenovo's too. In a laptop I would look at the graphics if you plan to run X. In laptops you want to look at everything. If one of the chipset is not supported or badly you cannot like on a desktop change a component by an another. You want to go here http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html and search if every component of you laptop is supported. -fred- -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Timezone problem
Hello everyone,
First of all, sorry for the terrible English I will do my best, also I don't
have much programming knowledge only some PHP.
I am having issues with a software that I run on my FreeBSD server
(6.2-RELEASE). Here is a simple demonstration of the problem:
This code:
// CODE START
#include
#include
int main() {
extern long timezone1;
tzset();
printf("timezone is %d\n", timezone);
printf("tzname[0] is %s\n", tzname[0]);
printf("tzname[1] is %s\n", tzname[1]);
return 0;
}
// CODE END
Give this result:
timezone is 134513672
tzname[0] is EST
tzname[1] is EDT
The value of "timezone" should be "14400" which is the difference between my
timezone (EDT) and UTC in seconds. This problem only appeared when we went
from EST to EDT (daylight saving time) on march 9th. Anyone knows why I am
getting "134513672" ?
Here is some more information about my system:
# date
Sat Mar 22 15:24:42 EDT 2008
# date -u
Sat Mar 22 19:24:45 UTC 2008
# gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler Thread model: posix gcc
version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305
# uname -a
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386
Thank for the help!
-fred
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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/03/2008, Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the "Where is packages-6.2-release" for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. How many iterations of: "I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee install?" Ok you do that maybe once or twice but you quickly understand that you don't really need the CD2 and CD3. Also some people like to collect. They have shelves with all the releases from from Unix V3, but I am sure this is not the majority. Save the bandwith! -fred- -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?
Same for me I have never uploaded the CD2 and 3. Ok, maybe once long time ago when I was young and the FreeBSD version was 4.xx. I install the os from the CD1 and then I install everything I need from ports. -fred- On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Glen Barber wrote: Miguel Mayol i Tur said: I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD installer. If everyone is so intent on using the "latest and greatest", why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than using ports? Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB DVD. Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall. -- Glen Barber (570)328-0318 http://www.dev-urandom.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: hardware information
Thank you all, that exactly what I needed. -fred- On Mar 7, 2008, at 12:43 PM, beni wrote: On Friday 07 March 2008 20:08:29 Fred C wrote: I have one of my disks over heating and I would like to monitor the disk temperature. Is there any way to get the disk S.M.A.R.T information on FreeBSD? -fred- The smartmontools in sysutils/smartmontools : The smartmontools package contains two utility programs (smartctl and smartd) to control and monitor storage systems using the Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology System (S.M.A.R.T.) built into most modern ATA and SCSI hard disks. It is derived from the smartsuite package, and includes support for ATA/ATAPI-5 disks. WWW: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net -- Beni. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
hardware information
I have one of my disks over heating and I would like to monitor the disk temperature. Is there any way to get the disk S.M.A.R.T information on FreeBSD? -fred- -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Manually opening TCP ports
You can do that with bash. Ex: $ cat http://blogmag.net/blog/read/49/Network_programing_with_bash -fred- On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Siraj Shaikh wrote: Hello I am just wondering if there is a utility (or any feature in FreeBSD) that allows me to manually open a TCP port on a machine. I am looking for a way that could either allow me to open ALL or many TCP ports on a machine. Also, is there any way of running a service on more than a single port, or on all or many ports? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Postfix port broken?
This is due to these lines in the Makefile (with line numbers): 187 .if defined(WITH_VDA) 188 IGNORE= Waiting for a new patch that's work with 2.5.1 189 PATCH_SITES+= http://vda.sourceforge.net/VDA/ 190 PATCHFILES+=postfix-2.4.5-vda-ng.patch.gz 191 PATCH_DIST_STRIP= -p1 192 .endif make config would enable you to turn off virtual delivery agent. I'm not a postfix expert, but I believe VDA is only needed if you run virtual domains. fred On Mar 2, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Ezat wrote: Hello all, Not sure if correct list for this. Trying to install postfix today and came across this issue. ===> postfix-2.5.1_1,1 Waiting for a new patch that's work with 2.5.1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix. Anyone have same issue? ezat ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] "
Re: Daylight Savings time
The file does not exist... /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo# make ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found => tzdata2007j.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/. fetch: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007j.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/. fetch: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/tzdata2007j.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ . fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/tzdata2007j.tar.gz : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo. /usr/ports/misc/zoneinfo# On Mar 1, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:18:52PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote: Hi, I suspect my FreeBSD 5.2 system isn't going to handle the change to Daylight Savings Time correctly next weekend: zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2008 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 6 06:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Apr 6 01:59:59 2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 6 07:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Apr 6 03:00:00 2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 26 05:59:59 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:59:59 2008 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 26 06:00:00 2008 UTC = Sun Oct 26 01:00:00 2008 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 Could someone help me remember the steps I need to take to correct this? Install the misc/zoneinfo port, which will install an updated zoneinfo file on your machine, and then run tzsetup(8) to update /etc/localtime. -- Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7
On Feb 29, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Chris wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just so they can use the operating system properly when I think its reasonable to expect mainstream hardware to work, eg. realtek is mainstream and common as a onboard nic but the support in freebsd is poor and only serving datacentres to shy away from freebsd. If the same hardware performs better in linux then the hardware isnt to blame for worser performance in fbsd. The weakness comes mainly from the hardware. It is like Nascar, you don't run Nascar in your everyday Prius. You need a car with stronger and ultra performing components. Your Prius maybe fine for your commute and your grocery shopping, but when it comes to a race it will perform very badly. Here the problem is the same. For your everyday home desktop machine any low end network card is fine. But when you want to handle several thousand connections per seconds you need some some hardware who can handle it. -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: two ntpd
On Feb 15, 2008, at 9:24 AM, ivan dimitrov wrote: Hi list, is it normal to have two ntpds? 767 ?? Ss 0:37.28 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ ntpd.pid 844 ?? S 0:00.95 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ ntpd.pid Regards Ivan No: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ps ax | grep ntp 940 ?? Ss 1:01.96 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
Re: console server using a modern 1U box
Do you know where I can find more information about comserv. In the port directory the pkg-descr file point to http://www.bsdhome.com/comserv/ which return a 404 error and the website is about bats homes. -fred- On Jan 3, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Philip Brown wrote: have a look at xyplex 1600 console server, which is a standalone comm server accesed via a network. you can the also run comserv on your bsd box which will the connect the 16 ports of the console server as directly connected serial ports giving you the use of ports as device files & tip etc. if i remember correctly I also used comserv with lantronix/perl console server as well. comserv is in /usr/ports/comms/comserv ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Moving user/group databases
On Sep 7, 2007, at 2:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:52 PM 9/7/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of my FreeBSD servers boot from CD, and we are going to be having several temporary employees coming and going over the next 6-12 months. Is it possible to move the user/group databases from their location in /etc (which is read only on my CDs) to another location? I have read the man page concerning pw and still do not understand what I should be doing. Any suggestions, or direction to a how-to would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay The simplest way would be to put a symbolic link from /etc to a writable location. You will need to re-make your boot CD to have this change. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. I have recreated the CD with the sym links, and I still run into a problem because adduser tries to create temporary files in /etc. If I remember correctly, the files it tries to create are /etc/passwd.XX. I was able to get pw to work to add the user accounts, but now I am trying to set the password for new account, and have hit the temp file snag. Is this something which can be reconfigured in pw.conf? Thanks, Jay It sounds like you made a link for /etc/master_passwd. I'm pretty sure what DR meant was a symlink for the entire /etc directory: /etc -> /somewhere_writable/etc/ You need this because adduser also has to rewrite /etc/passwd and / etc/group when you add/delete users. This means copying your entire / etc hierarchy somewhere writable; naturally I don't know if this is acceptable in your organization. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Booting GELI from CD...
I think I am close to getting GELI to boot from CD. Here's what I've done. #Followed instructions per these threads [1]. This #included creating a file backed memory disk to allow #GELI to mount the root filesystem with a keyfile on the #CD. #You'll see from my previous post, and that of others, #that many were having trouble booting from USB sticks #even from modern BIOSes[2]. No one has been able to #identify the problem to date. In the meantime booting #from CD is supposed to be a far more reliable. #I followed the instructions for mkisofs from [1]b, and #burned to cd-r like this: burncd -f /dev/acd0 data grubboot.iso /iso #This works great! until the dreaded loader takes over. #you'll recall loader hanging and not being able to #read the kernel from the USB pendrive was a previous #issue. Here is the current output from loader while #booting the CD: BTXloader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS drive C: is disk0 BIOS 631kB/980480kB available memory FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Sun May 9 02:19:03 UTC 2006) Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0x9f not found by probes, defaulting to disk0: can't load 'kernel' Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. OK # if I 'lsdev' I get the following output. cd devices: disk devices: disk0: BIOS drive C: disk0s1a:FFS disk0s1b:swap disk0s1d:FFS disk0s1e:FFS disk0s1f:FFS disk0s2: FFS bad disklabel #disk 0 is an unencrypted FBSD6.1 install. Disk0s2 is #the GELI install. I assume there is a problem reading #the cd device because there is no output? This was #the same problem when booting from usb; whichever disk #was the usb would have no output in the same way. #I want to mention that if I boot from the FBSD install #disk and and escape to the loader prompt and lsdev, I #get: cd devices: Device 0x1 #Also while booting the BTX screen says: BIOS CD is cd0 #You might comment on why I'm using grub instead of #cdboot? the main reason is I want to take advantage of #menu.lst to choose between OSes when booting from the #CD. I'll also try all of this with /boot/cdboot to #see if I can just get it to work. In the mean time, #ideas? -Fred [1]a. events.ccc.de/congress/2005/fahrplan/attachments/586-paper_Complete_Hard_Disk_Encryption.pdf b. http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43796 c. http://www.proportion.ch/index.php?page=31 [2] a. http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?208229.54978.qm b. http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?45F91CF0.6010506 Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Loader can't read USB drive @ boot
--- Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:16:35AM -0700, Fred > Davidson wrote: > > > Well I was having this problem with GRUB which > someone > > helped me with. Now Grub will boot my USB key and > > load loader. The problem? loader hangs, and > > eventually says it can't find the kernel. when I > > lsdev it always gives the right description of my > hard > > disk partitions on the hard drive, but prints > nothing > > for the USB disk. So... > > When the FreeBSD loader can't find the kernel, it > often means > that it is looking in the wrong place. Is your Grub > MBR pointing > it to the right place? What is actually on that > stick? > Is there aDDsNa partition for it to boot from? > DD being device > and N being a slice number, 1..4. > > jerry Thanks for the reply Jerry, sorry my last post wasn't very descriptive, but my prior post was overly descriptive and didn't get much of a response, however it did describe the issue well: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2379736+2387238+/usr/local/www/db/text/2007/freebsd-questions/20070603.freebsd-questions Andrey pointed out in a later post that I was making the mistake of creating UFS2 filesystems in slices and not partitions (e.g. s1 vs. s1a). Once I corrected that I had no problem using grub 0.97 to boot into my ufs2 partitions. So I reboot... Grub boots right into the partition on the USB stick (say da0s1a). After choosing the menu selection the system appears to load loader, and then hangs. I posted a very detailed description of this, but got your response before the posting occurred. I still can't find the posting online, but it's message 22 in: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 181, Issue 6 Basically loader seems to begin, and ends right before the line that reads: loading /boot/defaults/loader Then it hangs, and if I wait a while I'll get can't load kernel. if I lsdev I won't get any indication that there is a filesystem present where the USB device is. This is true whether I boot from the USB device or the hard disk. Basically I'm just trying to get GELI to work from some kind of removable medium. Right now I'm kind of blaming this on a cheap (but new) laptop with a BIOS that doesn't let me choose CHS or LBA, or make any such selections. I thought I would try and see if changing what the BIOS thinks in fdisk would do anything, but I have no idea how to find the chs info for my USB stick (no included with stick, and manufacturer gives no info). Does anyone have an inkling what's going on here? Also I just wanted to mention that when booting the freebsd cd if I escape to the loader prompt and lsdev I get cd0: Device 0x1 I would guess this would mean that freebsd would be able to load the kernel off of the cd device? If anyone believes this could be viable I'll happily start another thread to try this, thankyou. -Fred Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Loader can't read USB drive @ boot
Well I was having this problem with GRUB which someone helped me with. Now Grub will boot my USB key and load loader. The problem? loader hangs, and eventually says it can't find the kernel. when I lsdev it always gives the right description of my hard disk partitions on the hard drive, but prints nothing for the USB disk. So... Is this a problem of FreeBSD not being able to read from the USB stick this early? Is this a problem of the BIOS being fishy with FreeBSD and refusing to give up the details of the USB stick? Is this (like a read in another post) just a problem of the specific USB stick I'm using, and that there's something different about different sticks? Do these little sticks really have firmware? You ponder that, I'm gonna go drop some cash on a new USB stick, hope that's it. -Fred Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: GRUB / boot easy problems w / USB stick
It seems like this thread isn't getting updated when I post for some reason. This will be the last one I try until I figure out what's wrong. #I've done some more tests. In my last post I had booted # from the usb key. the results of lsdev from the boot #loader prompt were: OK lsdev cd devices: disk devices: disk0: BIOS drive C: disk1: BIOS drive D: disk1s1a: FFS disk1s1b: swap disk1s1d: FFS # If I booted from the hard drive first I got: cd devices: disk devices: disk0: BIOS Drive C: disk0s1a: FFS disk0s1b: swap disk1s1d: FFS disk1L BIOS Drive D: #So it's clear that which ever drive is booted from #first between the hard drive and the usb key drive is #going to show up as "disk0: BIOS Drive C," but I was #wondering why the disk slices/partition letters for #the USB key don't #show up when I boot from it. Or #even when I boot from the HD and use the loader #prompt? # Again just to quickly restate the problem, when # booting from the USB key, the BTX loader hangs, and # after about 5 minutes I get the loader prompt. The # loader apparently can't find the kernel. When #booting normally I have double checked that the #bsdlabels, filesystems, and required files are at #least present on the key. # I'll keep learning the intimate details of various #config files, and loader commands, and post back if I #find a solution. Thanks again for any bits of know #how you send my way. -Fred Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
