Re: firefox+flash = i'cant got to my shell

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Shute
Hi Viktor,

Looking at that page, you don't need to mount your partitions. You
should be able to edit /etc/libmap.conf directly.

Apologies for the error.

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Re: firefox+flash = i'cant got to my shell

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Shute
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 10:12:04PM -0800, Viktor Penkov wrote:
>
> Hello.I want to install flash and using it with firefox.I used this
> guide ->
> http://freebsdgirl.com/2005/06/freebsd_firefox_flash.html

That guide is almost 3 yrs old. Totally useless.

> When i rebooted my system i got this message " /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:
> shared object "pluginwrapper/flash6.so" not found,  required by
> "-sh" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object "pluginwrapper/flash6.so"
> not found, required by "sh" Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN
> for /bin/sh: I can't get into my shell.  I tryed to use /rescue.
> When it asked me again for the pathname i typed this "/rescue/sh".I
> wanted to edit the libmap.conf with vi but when i typed vi i got
> this "vi: no terminal database found"  
>
> How to fix this? Thnx

When you get the prompt to hit return for /bin/sh, do so. You will be
given a prompt, then you can mount your partitions, fire up vi & undo
everything you did to "install" flash. After that reboot into the
normal, multi-user mode.

To install flash, search the archive of this list. In the last few
months the installation of flash has come up more than once. It's
fairly straightforward: install linux-flashplugin & then
nspluginwrapper & run it. It works with native firefox.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-19 Thread John Nielsen
On Saturday 16 September 2006 12:38, Bill-Schoolcraft wrote:
> At Sat, 16 Sep 2006 it looks like Viswas Nair composed:
> > I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm.
> > Just go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the
> > plugin and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin
> > in the adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it
> > to some location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so
> > file to /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again
> > and enjoy the world of flash
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> Hello Family,
>
> I'm running 6.1, installed "linux-opera" from ports in order to test
> the above, and the ports install seemed to go fine but I got this
> error when trying to start Opera, anyone seen this before?
>
> ##
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera
>
> opera: Preference initialization failure. File not found or could
> not be opened (-7)
>
> ##

Why are you trying to run it that way?  What happens if you just 
type "linux-opera" from an xterm? (/usr/local/bin/linux-opera on my machine).

JN
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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-19 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:45:03 -0400
Paul Chvostek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> QEMU can read and write vmdk files, so you may have an easy migration
> path. 
Well, i tried loading a pre-existing vmdk from Windows Vmware Wkstation 4.5 and
it just didnt work (it'd stall). I have to admit I couldn't spend much more
time on it so I moved on.

> But if your issue is speed, have you looked at the kqemu-kmod
> port?  It's the bit that allows guest code to run directly on the host
> cpu.  YMMV, but it seems to allow QEMU to run Windows guests at about
> the same speed as VMWare.  http://qemu.org/qemu-accel.html for details.

Definitely using kqemu-kmod. I was developing with eclipse under win32 and it
was rather painful... interestingly enough, the clock
inside the vm was ticking like crazy (4 or so times as fast as normal ) - i
ended up syncwing via ntp every 90 seconds :D. It could well be a fault in my
qemu config (pretty vanilla one )  but for what I need(ed) it, it does its
job.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Chvostek
> Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
> > Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
> > I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

It's a proper virtual machine, not like jail(8).  Check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines for a list
of alternatives.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 04:01:01PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
>
> I've only used it for hosting a WinXP-Pro guest - it's not as fast as
> VMWare,but i'm switching to linux just for that reason. And i wont be buying
> vmware workstation linux licenses (needed for VmWare Workstaion 3.x on FreeBSD
> host) - my Wkstation-Windows licenses are just fine (but not valid for linux,
> according to vmware's support).

QEMU can read and write vmdk files, so you may have an easy migration
path.  But if your issue is speed, have you looked at the kqemu-kmod
port?  It's the bit that allows guest code to run directly on the host
cpu.  YMMV, but it seems to allow QEMU to run Windows guests at about
the same speed as VMWare.  http://qemu.org/qemu-accel.html for details.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:38:48 -0400
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
> Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
> I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

sure, works fine under freebsd. I just did a pkg_info -R qemu* and it doesn't
*seem* to depend on anything linux... the Makefile doesnt make any reference to
it either.

I've only used it for hosting a WinXP-Pro guest - it's not as fast as
VMWare,but i'm switching to linux just for that reason. And i wont be buying
vmware workstation linux licenses (needed for VmWare Workstaion 3.x on FreeBSD
host) - my Wkstation-Windows licenses are just fine (but not valid for linux,
according to vmware's support).

B

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)


On 18 September 2006, at 09:38, Jerry McAllister wrote:


On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash.


Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash  
does work under
wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out  
of trouble
the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i  
just give up

altogether on the site.


Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
I am hosting it under FreeBSD?


If it needs linux, use linux compatibility.



This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

jerry



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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 18 Sep Jerry McAllister wrote:
> Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
> Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if I
> am hosting it under FreeBSD?
> 
> This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

Qemu is great. I have a few "systems" in a qemu directory which I simply
call from a command windows with the right options.
At the moment I run XP/pro, Win98se, FreeDOS and a 'real' MS-DOS system
under Qemu *on_FreeBSD*. They all run great. Sound, networking, all.

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Re: Firefox+Flash+Qemu

2006-09-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
> RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 
> 
> Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash does work under
> wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out of trouble
> the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i just give up
> altogether on the site.

Do you run Qemu on FreeBSD?   It says only 'LINUX host only' for "User
Mode Emulation".   So, does that mean I can emulate a full system if
I am hosting it under FreeBSD?

This is the first time I have run in to Qemu and it looks interesting.

jerry

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 06:45:56PM +0100, RW wrote:
> On Saturday 16 September 2006 16:03, Viswas Nair wrote:
> > I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm.
> 
> For the third time, it has multiple critical vulnerabilities. If you use it 
> your computer may "work like a charm" for someone else. 

I heard you the first time.  Adobe have released a patched version (7.0.68)
that addresses these vulnerabilities. The Freshmeat notice went out yesterday,
so I'm sure it is just a matter of time before the maintainer revs the FreeBSD
port.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread RW
On Saturday 16 September 2006 16:03, Viswas Nair wrote:
> I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm.

For the third time, it has multiple critical vulnerabilities. If you use it 
your computer may "work like a charm" for someone else. 
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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Bill-Schoolcraft
At Sat, 16 Sep 2006 it looks like Viswas Nair composed:

> I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm. Just
> go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the plugin
> and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin in the
> adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it to some
> location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so file to
> /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again and enjoy
> the world of flash
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Hello Family,

I'm running 6.1, installed "linux-opera" from ports in order to test
the above, and the ports install seemed to go fine but I got this
error when trying to start Opera, anyone seen this before?

##

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera

opera: Preference initialization failure. File not found or could
not be opened (-7)

##

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday 16 September 2006 11:38, ajm wrote:

> I also use linux-opera...but there some site that are running flash 8
> that won't work with the most current adobe flash version 7.

A somewhat similar problem is starting to crop up with mplayer and the 
latest version of WMV codecs. I seems that a few sites are using the new 
code and mplayer is unable to interpret it correctly. I was just on the 
mplayer forum where it was being discussed along with the URLs of some of 
those sites.

It is my belief though that mplayer will get the necessary changes make to 
remedy this problem faster than a fully functioning and current version of 
flash for FBSD is available.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread ajm
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 08:33:11PM +0530, Viswas Nair wrote:
> I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm. Just
> go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the plugin
> and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin in the
> adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it to some
> location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so file to
> /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again and enjoy
> the world of flash

I also use linux-opera...but there some site that are running flash 8 
that won't work with the most current adobe flash version 7.

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Re: Firefox+Flash works for sure

2006-09-16 Thread Viswas Nair

I use linux-opera and I have managed to get flash working like a charm. Just
go to any website using flash and opera will ask you to download the plugin
and automatically take you to the linux page of the flash plugin in the
adobe website. Then download the flash plugin tar.gz and save it to some
location. Extract the contents and copy the libflashplayer.so file to
/usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins. Close opera and open again and enjoy
the world of flash
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:22:38 +0100
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 

Why not try Wine? I haven't checked, but maybe firefox + flash does work under
wine... i also keep a 4 GB Qemu windows xp setup which gets my out of trouble
the few times when it's window-or-nothing.. most of the time i just give up
altogether on the site.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread RW



--On Friday, September 15, 2006 14:27:37 -0400 Gerard Seibert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Friday 15 September 2006 13:38, Jona Joachim wrote:


The MPlayer plugin loads the streams on the cbsnews.com front page just
fine. What browser are you using? I know that the plugin works fine with
Mozilla and Firefox but it doesn't work in Opera (unfortunately). Type
"about:plugins" in the location bar and check for the "Windows Media
Player Plugin" entry. If you can't find it in the list then the browser
can't find the plugin, reinstalling may help.


There is nothing there about MPLayer. I have both Firefox and
linux-firefox  installed.

MPlayer works fine when I use it directly. How can I get it added to the
plugins for Firefox?



Use:

www/mplayer-plugin

www/linux-mplayer-plugin

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Sep 15, 2006, at 10:29 AM, George Allan wrote:

I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.


I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos  
programs
that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic  
demonstrations.

So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me to have
to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.


You can visit www.linuxcbt.com (cue the Linux jokes) for an  
illustrative
example.  All the videos are in swf format, most likely generated  
using

vnc2swf (available in ports, FWIW) or something similar.  As a side
note, mplayer doesn't support the swf format either.


That site seems to be selling instructional videos for $200 a pop.

While I suppose some people would pay that much to watch something in  
Flash like how to configure sendmail, rather than read the docs that  
come with the sendmail source tarball (or buy the O'Reilly "Bat"  
book, or subscribe to comp.mail.sendmail and ask there), and they are  
welcome to make such a decision, it would not be the decision I would  
make myself.


Responding to another point made in this thread:

On Sep 15, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Robert Huff wrote:

I am running into an increasing number of web sites - including
those of mega-corporations - where the home page is 100% Flash,
leaving no way to get inside if you don't do .swf.


The major problem with such an approach is that pure-Flash-based  
sites prevent critical aspects of browser functionality from working  
as designed-- things like bookmarks, the back button, and so forth.


Once in a while, I send a polite message to  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> indicating that a pure Flash site is  
a problem for those people who do not have Flash, and that if they  
decide to exclude potential customers (or partners, or investors,  
etc) as a result, well, doing so is their loss.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday 15 September 2006 13:38, Jona Joachim wrote:

> The MPlayer plugin loads the streams on the cbsnews.com front page just
> fine. What browser are you using? I know that the plugin works fine with
> Mozilla and Firefox but it doesn't work in Opera (unfortunately). Type
> "about:plugins" in the location bar and check for the "Windows Media
> Player Plugin" entry. If you can't find it in the list then the browser
> can't find the plugin, reinstalling may help.

There is nothing there about MPLayer. I have both Firefox and linux-firefox 
installed.

MPlayer works fine when I use it directly. How can I get it added to the 
plugins for Firefox?

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 05:52:45PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
> 
>> Jerry McAllister wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
>>>
 Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
>> Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
>> friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
>
> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
 I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
 provide their videos in a proper way.
 I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
 of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
 Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.
>>> Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.
>>>
>>> By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
>>> it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.
>> It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
>> Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox
>> (even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from
>> version 8 on.
> 
> OK.   I see it.  But since I am running Firefox, it doesn't do much.
> Are you proposing to add SVG to Firefox or create a 'plugin' for
> Firefox?

SVG 1.1 Tiny became a W3C recommendation on 14th January 2003 so I
believe they will implement it sonner or later

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Gerard Seibert wrote:
> On Friday 15 September 2006 12:01, Jona Joachim wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> MPlayer handles wmv streams just fine.
>> You may want to check out www/mplayer-plugin, it works perfectly for
>> mozilla.
> 
> OK, I all ready have that installed. How am I suppose to configure it so 
> that when I click on a link that is suppose to require MS Media Player it 
> intercepts it and displays the streaming video?

The MPlayer plugin loads the streams on the cbsnews.com front page just
fine. What browser are you using? I know that the plugin works fine with
Mozilla and Firefox but it doesn't work in Opera (unfortunately). Type
"about:plugins" in the location bar and check for the "Windows Media
Player Plugin" entry. If you can't find it in the list then the browser
can't find the plugin, reinstalling may help.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread George Allan
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:54:38PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> 
> > On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
> > >Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
> > >friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> > 
> > Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
> > 
> > I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
> > install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
> 
> I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos programs
> that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic demonstrations.
> So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me to have
> to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.

You can visit www.linuxcbt.com (cue the Linux jokes) for an illustrative 
example.  All the videos are in swf format, most likely generated using 
vnc2swf (available in ports, FWIW) or something similar.  As a side 
note, mplayer doesn't support the swf format either.

I once subscribed to the notion that Flash was wholly unecessary and the 
domain of ad companies, all the while knowing that there are amazingly 
creative sites (targeted at "creative types" or folks with "creative 
budgets") done entirely in Flash that most people, myself included, 
couldn't fault.  It wasn't too long before I ended up installing the 
requisite browser plugin.

Flash is now more popular than ever.  And with Adobe's recent purchase 
of Macromedia, it would be naive to believe that Flash is going to fade 
away, or be relegated to a corner somewhere.  Unwelcome ads of any sort 
can be blocked with little trouble -- it's the remaining content that's 
the problem, and there's more of it out there every day.  That said, the 
linux-firefox approach does work surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) 
well, as does acroread (a must for those of us with notebooks or LCD 
screens).  Doesn't mean I'm any less annoyed at the state of affairs.  
Or any more inclined to install Linux.  ;-)

Cheers.





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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday 15 September 2006 12:01, Jona Joachim wrote:

[...]

> MPlayer handles wmv streams just fine.
> You may want to check out www/mplayer-plugin, it works perfectly for
> mozilla.

OK, I all ready have that installed. How am I suppose to configure it so 
that when I click on a link that is suppose to require MS Media Player it 
intercepts it and displays the streaming video?


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Robert Huff

Jerry McAllister writes:

>  Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it
>  annoys me.

I am running into an increasing number of web sites - including
those of mega-corporations - where the home page is 100% Flash,
leaving no way to get inside if you don't do .swf.
Short of a native Flash Player (not holding my breath), the
correct long-term solution is for someone with the right skill-set
(regrettably not me) to fix www/linuxpluginwrapper.  This will not
only make using Linux Flash players feasible, but will bring joy to
the hearts of the many who want to use other Linux plugins.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Gerard Seibert wrote:
> On Friday 15 September 2006 10:34, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> 
>> I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos
>> programs that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic
>> demonstrations. So, it is a feature that is desired by many. �It pains me
>> to have to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.
> 
> I concure; having to use a different PC just to view a web page is a 
> negative factor. I have also noticed that several sites, one bing CBSNews. 
> is now doing streaming real-time video; however, it is only viewable via MS 
> Media Player. It specifically states on the web page that 'realplayer' is 
> not fully compatible and not used for many of the feeds.
> 
> It would be nice if a fully compatible player were available for FBSD. I 
> hate switching between PCs.

MPlayer handles wmv streams just fine.
You may want to check out www/mplayer-plugin, it works perfectly for
mozilla.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 05:52:45PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:

> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
> > 
> >> Chuck Swiger wrote:
> >>> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
>  Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
>  friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> >>> Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
> >>>
> >>> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
> >>> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
> >> I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
> >> provide their videos in a proper way.
> >> I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
> >> of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
> >> Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.
> > 
> > Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.
> > 
> > By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
> > it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.
> 
> It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
> Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox
> (even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from
> version 8 on.

OK.   I see it.  But since I am running Firefox, it doesn't do much.
Are you proposing to add SVG to Firefox or create a 'plugin' for
Firefox?

jerry

> 
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
michael johnson wrote:
> On 9/14/06, Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>>
>> > On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
>> >> Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
>> >> friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
>> >
>> > Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
>> >
>> > I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
>> > install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -Chuck
>>
>> Unfortunately a lot of consumer sites are starting to use flash as a
>> semi-static and predictable way to deliver content to people; it's
>> incredibly annoying, and becomes very noticeable once you install
>> stuff that blocks SWF files: http://www.noscript.net/whats :). Thus,
>> that is one solution to get rid of your ads (adblock+ is another, but
>> meh), so you can keep Flash functionality and get rid of crappy Flash
>> animations, while surfing the net.
>>
>> Also, FYI: a lot of sites have built animations with (Adobe) Flash 9,
>> so unless you have a Windows or Mac PC nearby you probably won't be
>> able to load up animations on a Unix PC as the latest version
>> available is 7.
> 
> 
> Go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and
> ask adobe for a native version of flash for FreeBSD.

Great! I bet if everybody fills out this form and asks for a FreeBSD
native version they will perhaps pay attention.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jona Joachim
Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
> 
>> Chuck Swiger wrote:
>>> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
 Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
 friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
>>> Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
>>>
>>> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
>>> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
>> I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
>> provide their videos in a proper way.
>> I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
>> of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
>> Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.
> 
> Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.
> 
> By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
> it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.

It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/
Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox
(even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from
version 8 on.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday 15 September 2006 10:34, Jerry McAllister wrote:

> I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos
> programs that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic
> demonstrations. So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me
> to have to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.

I concure; having to use a different PC just to view a web page is a 
negative factor. I have also noticed that several sites, one bing CBSNews. 
is now doing streaming real-time video; however, it is only viewable via MS 
Media Player. It specifically states on the web page that 'realplayer' is 
not fully compatible and not used for many of the feeds.

It would be nice if a fully compatible player were available for FBSD. I 
hate switching between PCs.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:

> Chuck Swiger wrote:
> > On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
> >> Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
> >> friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> > 
> > Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
> > 
> > I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
> > install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
> 
> I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
> provide their videos in a proper way.
> I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
> of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
> Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.

Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me.

By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though
it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little.

jerry

> 
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Eric Schuele

On 09/15/06 03:31, felix.schalck wrote:
Is the language/interpreter used by FLASH copyrighted, so that there 
isn't any possibility for an open source player ?


There is Gnash:
  http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:54:38PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:

> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
> >Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
> >friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> 
> Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
> 
> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.

I don't normally use it either, but there are sites that do videos programs
that are all in flash and others that use it for graphic demonstrations.
So, it is a feature that is desired by many.  It pains me to have
to reboot to Microsloth to see something on those sites.

jerry

> 
> -- 
> -Chuck
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread RW



--On Thursday, September 14, 2006 14:57:28 -0700 White Hat 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



FreeBSD 6.1

I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
major problems is the inability to get flash to work
properly to display videos available on Google. I know
that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
persuade them to try FBSD?


Adobe have announced that Flash 8 and all previous versions have multiple 
critical vulnerabilities. Presumably Adobe have been sitting on these bugs 
for some time; a month or so after the release of Flash 9 is pretty 
convenient for them.


Since the highest version of the linux plugin is 7, there is currently no 
Adobe version that can be run safely on Linux, BSD or Solaris. I understand 
that Adobe have indicated that there will eventually be a Linux Flash 9, 
and hopefully it will work on FreeBSD.


There are open source versions, but they aren't much good in my experience, 
I going to be booting into Windows if I really need flash. 
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread michael johnson

On 9/14/06, Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
>> Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
>> friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
>
> Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
>
> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.
>
> --
> -Chuck

Unfortunately a lot of consumer sites are starting to use flash as a
semi-static and predictable way to deliver content to people; it's
incredibly annoying, and becomes very noticeable once you install
stuff that blocks SWF files: http://www.noscript.net/whats :). Thus,
that is one solution to get rid of your ads (adblock+ is another, but
meh), so you can keep Flash functionality and get rid of crappy Flash
animations, while surfing the net.

Also, FYI: a lot of sites have built animations with (Adobe) Flash 9,
so unless you have a Windows or Mac PC nearby you probably won't be
able to load up animations on a Unix PC as the latest version
available is 7.



Go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and
ask adobe for a native version of flash for FreeBSD.


-Garrett

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread Bob M.
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:57 -0700, White Hat wrote:
> FreeBSD 6.1
> 
> I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
> FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
> major problems is the inability to get flash to work
> properly to display videos available on Google. I know
> that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
> out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
> persuade them to try FBSD?
> 
> I have KDE and Firefox installed obviously. I tried
> loading a few of the flash packages available in the
> ports, but they did not not seem to work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
This works for me, make sure you have the src tree under /usr/src.

http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081

There's an english translation somewhere, but if you just follow the
commands you'll be ok.

Bob

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-15 Thread felix.schalck
Is the language/interpreter used by FLASH copyrighted, so that there 
isn't any possibility for an open source player ?

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Bill-Schoolcraft
At Thu, 14 Sep 2006 it looks like White Hat composed:

> --- michael johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install
> linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the
> ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all
> work? 
> 

Yes, I just went to test my bandwidth at
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest in order to see their "gauge" for
I was told it was nice, but it would not fly, had to switch to
another Unix variant to get it to work.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.


Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.


--
-Chuck


Unfortunately a lot of consumer sites are starting to use flash as a  
semi-static and predictable way to deliver content to people; it's  
incredibly annoying, and becomes very noticeable once you install  
stuff that blocks SWF files: http://www.noscript.net/whats :). Thus,  
that is one solution to get rid of your ads (adblock+ is another, but  
meh), so you can keep Flash functionality and get rid of crappy Flash  
animations, while surfing the net.


Also, FYI: a lot of sites have built animations with (Adobe) Flash 9,  
so unless you have a Windows or Mac PC nearby you probably won't be  
able to load up animations on a Unix PC as the latest version  
available is 7.


-Garrett
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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread ajm
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:56:30PM -0400, michael johnson wrote:
> On 9/14/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >--- White Hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> FreeBSD 6.1
> >>
> >> I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
> >> FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
> >> major problems is the inability to get flash to work
> >> properly to display videos available on Google. I know
> >> that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
> >> out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
> >> persuade them to try FBSD?
> >
> >Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
> >friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> 
> 
> You can always just use www/linux-firefox and use flash with it.
> It works quite well.
> 

I use www/linux-opera.  No problems here...

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Jona Joachim
Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:
>> Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
>> friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.
> 
> Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?
> 
> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't
> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.

I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should
provide their videos in a proper way.
I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one
of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great.
Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet.

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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread michael johnson

On 9/14/06, White Hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--- michael johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install
linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the
ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all
work?



Don't deinstall firefox. just install linux-firefox with
firefox.

www/linux-flashplugin7 has the plugin you want



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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread White Hat
--- michael johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install
linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the
ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all
work? 


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread michael johnson

On 9/14/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



--- White Hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FreeBSD 6.1
>
> I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
> FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
> major problems is the inability to get flash to work
> properly to display videos available on Google. I know
> that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
> out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
> persuade them to try FBSD?

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.



You can always just use www/linux-firefox and use flash with it.
It works quite well.


Peter


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote:

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.


Why?  Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads?

I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't  
install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box.


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Re: Firefox+Flash

2006-09-14 Thread Peter

--- White Hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> FreeBSD 6.1
> 
> I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try
> FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the
> major problems is the inability to get flash to work
> properly to display videos available on Google. I know
> that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it
> out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps
> persuade them to try FBSD?

Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer.  It is best *not* to show your
friends that when you introduce them to FBSD.

Peter

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Re: firefox + flash translation

2006-07-18 Thread Sergio Lenzi
Em Ter, 2006-07-18 às 14:14 +, Christopher Hobbs escreveu:

> Greetings all!
> 
> I was thumbing through the archives and noticed that someone posted a link to
> the following site:
> 
> http://www.unixlike.com.br/?p=%2081
> 
> They mentioned they couldn't read the language it was written in, so I
> translated it.  Hopefully this will help some people.  It was written in
> Brazilian portuguese.  My translation is available at:
> 
> http://altbit.org/pseudorandom/unixlike_translation.txt
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> cmh


Thanks Cmh... it was time to translate to some more "international"
language...
even if portuguese is an easy language (here the kids about 3 years old
speak it very well...)
the information should be shared in english

Thanks again...
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