Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?(SOLVED)

2011-05-09 Thread Antonio Olivares
 startx command not found :(, no bash
 ran
 # pkg_add -r bash
 # pkg_add -r xfce4

 did not succeed, now ran to ports
 # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4
 # make install clean

 and am stuck here.  Hopefully this gets me back on my feet.
 Otherwise, it has been a big exercise :) and definitely I will learn
 from it.

Thank you all for input/advice/comments  suggestions.  I am back on
my feet with new xfce 4.8 now installing via ports
sed -i 's/openoffice/libreoffice/g'

will take a while but I am back in business.  Sorry for the noise and
for for shooting myself in the foot.  The learning the removing and
stuff like MasterCard commercials :  ``Priceless``!


Regards,


Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
 On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 Dear all,

 I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
 following advice in handbook:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

 ran
 # freebsd-update fetch
 # freebsd-update install

 # portupgrade -af

 # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

 then

 # freebsd-update install

 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af

 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

 # freebsd-update install

 and had nothing more to do :(

 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

 # portupgrade -arRp

 will this prompt me for customizations?

 Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm
 updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens
 before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade
 hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the
 options.

 As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you
 don't want to change the default options.


So I should have used the -C/c flag like
# portupgrade -CarRp

before or after?

I have encountered a few prompts :( and not done yet.  But will
continue to do this till it finishes.

Thanks,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
 On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 Dear all,

 I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
 following advice in handbook:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

 ran
 # freebsd-update fetch
 # freebsd-update install

 # portupgrade -af

 # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

 then

 # freebsd-update install

 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af

 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

 # freebsd-update install

 and had nothing more to do :(

 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

 # portupgrade -arRp

 will this prompt me for customizations?

 Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm
 updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens
 before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade
 hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the
 options.

 As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you
 don't want to change the default options.


 Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions.  I am taking the plunge a little
 further.  Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a
 few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am
 trying to learn more and setup the firewall.  I set up the simple
 example setup by Polytropon and most is working.  My freebsd version
 has moved to FreeBSD 8.2



 [olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a
 FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE
 #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011
 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64


 Regards,

 Antonio

 Regards,

 --

  Frank

  Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html




I am *stuck*, here's what I get at the end:

** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
- devel/automake110 (marked as IGNORE)
- devel/libltdl22 (marked as IGNORE)
- net/samba3 (marked as IGNORE)
! devel/qt4-moc (qt4-moc-4.6.3) (bad C++ code)
! devel/qt4-uic (qt4-uic-4.6.3) (bad C++ code)
! devel/qt4-rcc (qt4-rcc-4.6.3) (bad C++ code)
! audio/faad (faad2-2.7_2,1)(unknown build error)
! x11-fonts/libFS (libFS-1.0.2) (unknown build error)
! net/openldap24-client (openldap-client-2.4.23)(unknown build 
error)
! security/libntlm (libntlm-1.1)(unknown build error)
! devel/libsigc++20 (libsigc++-2.2.7)   (unknown build error)
! x11/babl (babl-0.1.2) (unknown build error)
! devel/gettext (gettext-0.18_1)(unknown build error)
* misc/help2man (help2man-1.38.2_1)
* net-p2p/libtorrent (libtorrent-0.12.6_1)
* misc/iso-codes (iso-codes-3.17)
* devel/popt (popt-1.14_1)
! graphics/OpenEXR (OpenEXR-1.6.1_2)(unknown build error)
* devel/yasm (yasm-1.0.1_1)
! audio/libogg (libogg-1.2.0,4) (unknown build error)
* security/libgpg-error (libgpg-error-1.8)
* security/gnupg1 (gnupg-1.4.10_2)
! net/xmlrpc-c-devel (xmlrpc-c-devel-1.22.2)(unknown build error)
* devel/glib20 (glib-2.24.1_1)
* security/libgcrypt (libgcrypt-1.4.5_1)
* ftp/wget (wget-1.12_1)
* graphics/libexif (libexif-0.6.18_1)
* devel/qt4-corelib (qt4-corelib-4.6.3)
* audio/libvorbis (libvorbis-1.3.1,3)
* textproc/aspell (aspell-0.60.6_3)
! x11/libSM (libSM-1.1.1_1,1)   (unknown build error)
* textproc/qt4-xml (qt4-xml-4.6.3)
! x11/pixman (pixman-0.16.6)(unknown build error)
* textproc/libxslt (libxslt-1.1.26_1)
* textproc/openjade (openjade-1.3.3p1_1)
* graphics/libgphoto2 (libgphoto2-2.4.9.1)
! devel/orc (orc-0.4.6) (unknown build error)
* security/gnutls (gnutls-2.8.6_1)
* lang/gawk (gawk-3.1.7_1)
* devel/gmake (gmake-3.81_4)
* net/qt4-network (qt4-network-4.6.3)
! print/freetype2 (freetype2-2.3.12)(unknown build error)
* x11-fonts/mkfontscale (mkfontscale-1.0.7)
* net-p2p/rtorrent (rtorrent-0.8.6_1)
* devel/gio-fam-backend (gio-fam-backend-2.24.1_1)
* devel/p5-Glib2 (p5-Glib2-1.222)
* x11/gnome-menus (gnome-menus-2.30.0_1)
* devel/glibmm (glibmm-2.24.2_2,1)
* shells/bash (bash-4.1.7)
* devel/ORBit2 (ORBit2-2.14.18_1)
* textproc/libxml++26 (libxml++-2.30.0)
* x11-fonts/libXfont (libXfont-1.4.0,1)
* x11-fonts/dejavu (dejavu-2.30_1)
* textproc/enchant (enchant-1.4.2)
* x11-fonts/bdftopcf (bdftopcf-1.0.2)
* misc/shared-mime-info (shared-mime-info-0.71_1)
* accessibility/atk (atk-1.30.0_1

Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
 Any suggestions to start over and get this done in a more efficient
 manner.  Thinking of nuking OpenOffice
Done:)

grullahighschool# cd openoffice.org-3
grullahighschool# ls
Makefiledistinfofiles   pkg-descr   pkg-plist
grullahighschool# make deinstall
===  Deinstalling for editors/openoffice.org-3
===   Deinstalling openoffice.org-3.2.1
grullahighschool#

  and installing LibreOffice.
 Will do that now and then when that is done.

 Regards,

 Antonio

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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Thu, 5 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 Dear all,

 I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
 following advice in handbook:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

 ran
 # freebsd-update fetch
 # freebsd-update install

 # portupgrade -af

 # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

 then

 # freebsd-update install

 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af

 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

 portupgrade is written in Ruby and uses ruby-bdb, so this may not work. -f
 is of questionable value.  Why not just cd to the port directories, and
 'make clean build deinstall install'?
This is what I am running now ATM

# cd /usr/ports/
# make clean build deinstall install

Will it install all the ports?   or only the ones that are installed?


 # freebsd-update install

 and had nothing more to do :(

 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

 # portupgrade -arRp

 -a is equivalent to -arR.  And that's building packages, which is not
 necessary unless you want to copy them to another machine.

 will this prompt me for customizations?

 Options menus?  Yes, the ports will ask on their own.  If you use the -c or
 -C options, portupgrade will do all of them at the start of the process.


Thanks,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 6 May 2011 11:36:07 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 This is what I am running now ATM
 
 # cd /usr/ports/
 # make clean build deinstall install
 
 Will it install all the ports?   or only the ones that are installed?

Oh, I've never tried that... install all ports... I even
doubt this is possible.

If you want to intendedly deinstall all _except_ the OS
software, you can do this:

# cd /usr/local
# rm -rf *
# mtree  /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist

It's worth mentioning that this is a very hard method.
Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra-
structure.

# cd /var/db/pkg
# pkg_delete -fad

or

# pkg_delete -f *

This should remove all ports in a clean way. You can also
remove stuff from /usr/ports/distfiles and /usr/ports/packages.

Then make sure you have updated your ports tree. In case
you also want an OS update, do it _now_ (i. e. prior to
dealing with ports).

In case you keep using portupgrade (and therefore portinstall),
maybe in combination with pkg_add -r if you prefer - like
me :-) - installing binary packages, make sure that you
run BEFORE and AFTER each big step, just to be sure

# pkgdb -aF

This keeps portinstall's own database in sync with what
you are doing on your system with other tools. Oh, and you
can _still_ use make install like installations directly
from the ports tree - no problem.

Another secret: Start with installing one of the bigger
software packages you need, as this will pull in many of
the dependencies, and you don't have to install those
first, by hand. If you want to compile, use gmencoder
for example, and select all options you need (remember
to do make config-recursive before make install).

Sometimes, you'll find it's easier to begin with a new
software installation from scratch. Maybe this is a good
moment to do so. :-)

And a sidenote:

If you intend to use the packages you've build on a
different system (to install them there), use make package,
or much easier with portupgrade or portinstall: use
the -p option. This will place precompiled (haha)
binary packages in /usr/ports/packages that you can
transfer to another system and install with them
with pkg_add there - VERY handy solution!





-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:


This is what I am running now ATM

# cd /usr/ports/
# make clean build deinstall install

Will it install all the ports?   or only the ones that are installed?


It's going to try to install all 22,000 ports.  That won't succeed due 
to conflicts, but it may take a while to get there.


Quicker overall would be to read the Handbook ports chapter.  You may 
also find my Upgrading FreeBSD Ports article helpful:


http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 This is what I am running now ATM

 # cd /usr/ports/
 # make clean build deinstall install

 Will it install all the ports?   or only the ones that are installed?

 It's going to try to install all 22,000 ports.  That won't succeed due to
 conflicts, but it may take a while to get there.

Stopped it with CTRL+C and

 Quicker overall would be to read the Handbook ports chapter.  You may also
 find my Upgrading FreeBSD Ports article helpful:

 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html


Have run the suggested commands

# portsnap fetch extract
# portsnap fetch install

the ports tree is updated.  Now portmaster was not installed, installed it
# cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/
# make install clean

now I am running

/usr/local/sbin/portmaster -L --index-only | egrep 'total
install|versions|New version'

and see the packages that need updating, but to update I am running:

# portmaster -na  /tmp/portorder.txt

and will get back after this is done to see how to proceed.

Thanks,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Fri, 6 May 2011 11:36:07 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 This is what I am running now ATM

 # cd /usr/ports/
 # make clean build deinstall install

 Will it install all the ports?   or only the ones that are installed?

 Oh, I've never tried that... install all ports... I even
 doubt this is possible.

 If you want to intendedly deinstall all _except_ the OS
 software, you can do this:

        # cd /usr/local
        # rm -rf *
        # mtree  /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist

 It's worth mentioning that this is a very hard method.
 Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra-
 structure.

        # cd /var/db/pkg
        # pkg_delete -fad

 or

        # pkg_delete -f *

 This should remove all ports in a clean way. You can also
 remove stuff from /usr/ports/distfiles and /usr/ports/packages.

 Then make sure you have updated your ports tree. In case
 you also want an OS update, do it _now_ (i. e. prior to
 dealing with ports).

 In case you keep using portupgrade (and therefore portinstall),
 maybe in combination with pkg_add -r if you prefer - like
 me :-) - installing binary packages, make sure that you
 run BEFORE and AFTER each big step, just to be sure

        # pkgdb -aF

 This keeps portinstall's own database in sync with what
 you are doing on your system with other tools. Oh, and you
 can _still_ use make install like installations directly
 from the ports tree - no problem.

 Another secret: Start with installing one of the bigger
 software packages you need, as this will pull in many of
 the dependencies, and you don't have to install those
 first, by hand. If you want to compile, use gmencoder
 for example, and select all options you need (remember
 to do make config-recursive before make install).

 Sometimes, you'll find it's easier to begin with a new
 software installation from scratch. Maybe this is a good
 moment to do so. :-)

 And a sidenote:

 If you intend to use the packages you've build on a
 different system (to install them there), use make package,
 or much easier with portupgrade or portinstall: use
 the -p option. This will place precompiled (haha)
 binary packages in /usr/ports/packages that you can
 transfer to another system and install with them
 with pkg_add there - VERY handy solution!





 --
 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...


I am trying out portmaster.  Have stuck with command
# portmaster -na  /tmp/portorder.txt

but it is hanging there.  Will go to lunch before doing anything.
Then ready to proceed.

Thanks,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 6 May 2011, Polytropon wrote:


Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra-
structure.

# cd /var/db/pkg
# pkg_delete -fad

or

# pkg_delete -f *


These are both equivalent to
  # pkg_delete -a
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
Warren,

Sorry to ask, but what does one run after we run
# portmaster -na

I have cleared all questions and am ready to update, what magical
command will do it?

Thanks,

Antonio

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Polytropon wrote:

 Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra-
 structure.

        # cd /var/db/pkg
        # pkg_delete -fad

 or

        # pkg_delete -f *

 These are both equivalent to
  # pkg_delete -a

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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares
olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:
 Warren,

 Sorry to ask, but what does one run after we run
 # portmaster -na

 I have cleared all questions and am ready to update, what magical
 command will do it?

 Thanks,

 Antonio

 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Polytropon wrote:

 Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra-
 structure.

        # cd /var/db/pkg
        # pkg_delete -fad

 or

        # pkg_delete -f *

 These are both equivalent to
  # pkg_delete -a



Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run
# portmaster -a -f -D

and do an in place update of all ports?
is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding?

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 6 May 2011 13:57:01 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run
 # portmaster -a -f -D
 
 and do an in place update of all ports?
 is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding?

In case you did already remove all installed ports, you
need to install them (portinstall command). You can do
a port upgrade only for ports that are installed, as the
system doesn't keep a which ports have been installed
before they got removed database automatically.

You need to use portmaster, the make install framework
or pkg_add -r to install the ports you want to have on
your system.

I hope I did understand your statement correctly. :-)


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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares

Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run
# portmaster -a -f -D

and do an in place update of all ports?
is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding?


After the attempt to install every port, I'd remove all, update the 
ports tree, and install only the needed ports.  Right now you may have 
many installed that are not just unneeded but unwanted.

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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares

 Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run
 # portmaster -a -f -D

 and do an in place update of all ports?
 is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding?

 After the attempt to install every port, I'd remove all, update the ports
 tree, and install only the needed ports.  Right now you may have many
 installed that are not just unneeded but unwanted.


I am following the advice given in man portmaster:

quote
 Using portmaster to do a complete reinstallation of all your ports:
   1. portmaster --list-origins  ~/installed-port-list

 Print only the ports that have available updates.  This can be used as an
 alias in your shell.  Be sure to fix the line wrapping appropriately.
   portmaster -L |
   egrep -B1 '(ew|ort) version|Aborting|installed|dependencies|
   IGNORE|marked|Reason:|MOVED|deleted|exist|update' | grep -v '^--'

   2. Update your ports tree
   3. portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles
   4. portmaster --check-port-dbdir
   5. portmaster -Faf
   6. pkg_delete -a
   7. rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg
   8. Back up any files in /usr/local you wish to save,
  such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc
   9. Manually check /usr/local and /var/db/pkg
  to make sure that they are really empty
   10. Re-install portmaster
   11. portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list`
/quote

Mostly everything is step 11 :)  Will come back hopefully with a fully
updated machine.

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Antonio Olivares
olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares

 Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run
 # portmaster -a -f -D

 and do an in place update of all ports?
 is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding?

 After the attempt to install every port, I'd remove all, update the ports
 tree, and install only the needed ports.  Right now you may have many
 installed that are not just unneeded but unwanted.


 I am following the advice given in man portmaster:

 quote
     Using portmaster to do a complete reinstallation of all your ports:
           1. portmaster --list-origins  ~/installed-port-list

     Print only the ports that have available updates.  This can be used as an
     alias in your shell.  Be sure to fix the line wrapping appropriately.
           portmaster -L |
           egrep -B1 '(ew|ort) version|Aborting|installed|dependencies|
           IGNORE|marked|Reason:|MOVED|deleted|exist|update' | grep -v '^--'

           2. Update your ports tree
           3. portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles
           4. portmaster --check-port-dbdir
           5. portmaster -Faf
           6. pkg_delete -a
           7. rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg
           8. Back up any files in /usr/local you wish to save,
              such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc
           9. Manually check /usr/local and /var/db/pkg
              to make sure that they are really empty
           10. Re-install portmaster
           11. portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list`
 /quote

 Mostly everything is step 11 :)  Will come back hopefully with a fully
 updated machine.

 Regards,

 Antonio


startx command not found :(, no bash
ran
# pkg_add -r bash
# pkg_add -r xfce4

did not succeed, now ran to ports
# cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4
# make install clean

and am stuck here.  Hopefully this gets me back on my feet.
Otherwise, it has been a big exercise :) and definitely I will learn
from it.

Regards,

Antonio
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Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear all,

I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
following advice in handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

ran
# freebsd-update fetch
# freebsd-update install

# portupgrade -af

# freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

then

# freebsd-update install

Tried to do this:
# portupgrade -f ruby
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
# portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
# portupgrade -af

Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

# freebsd-update install

and had nothing more to do :(

I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

# portupgrade -arRp

will this prompt me for customizations?

Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions.  I am taking the plunge a little
further.  Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a
few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am
trying to learn more and setup the firewall.  I set up the simple
example setup by Polytropon and most is working.  My freebsd version
has moved to FreeBSD 8.2



[olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a
FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE
#0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011
r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64


Regards,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af
 
 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

I think customizations refers to the make config
screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction
that _nobody_ likes. :-)



 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :
 
 # portupgrade -arRp
 
 will this prompt me for customizations?

The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary
packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have
already been built using the port's default options).
However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade
will install the port from source (so make sure your
ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there
is a make config interaction.

The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that
reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you
would use make install).

The decision tree is as follows:

Port can be configured?
Yes.
Port has already been configured?
Yes.
Build it with that options.
No.
Ask for options.
Then build it with that options.
No.
Build port.

This applies if there is no package (which you require
with the -P parameter to portupgrade).

Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for
the system and the installed applications correctly.
There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing
with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager).
The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade
perform a pkg_add-like upgrade the binary way.

Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps:
1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update)
2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap)
3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade)

As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take
the place of the with * suggested above, but I think
this is the way you intend to go.

Just as an example, make config-recursive allows you to
do all the config screens in one run, one after each other,
and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used
without any further questions. See man ports for details
about the several build targets; also see man portupgrade
of other options you might need to create a non-interactive
way of upgrading your installed ports.


-- 
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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af

 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again

 I think customizations refers to the make config
 screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction
 that _nobody_ likes. :-)

Yes these are the ones :)  I have encountered two/three days of these
:(  This is why I am asking.


 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

 # portupgrade -arRp

 will this prompt me for customizations?

 The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary
 packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have
 already been built using the port's default options).
 However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade
 will install the port from source (so make sure your
 ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there
 is a make config interaction.

 The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that
 reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you
 would use make install).

 The decision tree is as follows:

 Port can be configured?
        Yes.
                Port has already been configured?
                        Yes.
                                Build it with that options.
                        No.
                                Ask for options.
                                Then build it with that options.
        No.
                Build port.

 This applies if there is no package (which you require
 with the -P parameter to portupgrade).

 Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for
 the system and the installed applications correctly.
 There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing
 with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager).
 The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade
 perform a pkg_add-like upgrade the binary way.

 Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps:
 1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update)
 2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap)
 3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade)

This is exactly more or less what I have done. while doing 1, I
encountered several broken ports.  But I just skipped those.  Ran 2
like the commands I posted.

 As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take
 the place of the with * suggested above, but I think
 this is the way you intend to go.

 Just as an example, make config-recursive allows you to
 do all the config screens in one run, one after each other,
 and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used
 without any further questions. See man ports for details
 about the several build targets; also see man portupgrade
 of other options you might need to create a non-interactive
 way of upgrading your installed ports.

I should have asked before :(, tried to do it on my own.  I have spent
two to three days answering questions back and forth and it seemed
that I would not finish :(  I was not sure to proceed or not, because
previously I got burned with many errors that lib.so , ... and I
saw the system working and left it at that.  But now I know that to
keep a system in good working condition it needs to be updated with
security updates :)

 --
 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...


Thanks for helping out.  I have not encountered any prompts(*crossing
my fingers*) will let you know how this turns out.

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Chris Brennan
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Antonio Olivares
olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
  On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares 
 olivares14...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tried to do this:
  # portupgrade -f ruby
  # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
  # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
  # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
  # portupgrade -af
 
  Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again
 
  I think customizations refers to the make config
  screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction
  that _nobody_ likes. :-)
 
 Yes these are the ones :)  I have encountered two/three days of these
 :(  This is why I am asking.
 
 
  I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :
 
  # portupgrade -arRp
 
  will this prompt me for customizations?
 
  The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary
  packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have
  already been built using the port's default options).
  However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade
  will install the port from source (so make sure your
  ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there
  is a make config interaction.
 
  The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that
  reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you
  would use make install).
 
  The decision tree is as follows:
 
  Port can be configured?
 Yes.
 Port has already been configured?
 Yes.
 Build it with that options.
 No.
 Ask for options.
 Then build it with that options.
 No.
 Build port.
 
  This applies if there is no package (which you require
  with the -P parameter to portupgrade).
 
  Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for
  the system and the installed applications correctly.
  There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing
  with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager).
  The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade
  perform a pkg_add-like upgrade the binary way.
 
  Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps:
  1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update)
  2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap)
  3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade)
 
 This is exactly more or less what I have done. while doing 1, I
 encountered several broken ports.  But I just skipped those.  Ran 2
 like the commands I posted.
 
  As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take
  the place of the with * suggested above, but I think
  this is the way you intend to go.
 
  Just as an example, make config-recursive allows you to
  do all the config screens in one run, one after each other,
  and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used
  without any further questions. See man ports for details
  about the several build targets; also see man portupgrade
  of other options you might need to create a non-interactive
  way of upgrading your installed ports.

 I should have asked before :(, tried to do it on my own.  I have spent
 two to three days answering questions back and forth and it seemed
 that I would not finish :(  I was not sure to proceed or not, because
 previously I got burned with many errors that lib.so , ... and I
 saw the system working and left it at that.  But now I know that to
 keep a system in good working condition it needs to be updated with
 security updates :)
 
  --
  Polytropon
  Magdeburg, Germany
  Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
  Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
 

 Thanks for helping out.  I have not encountered any prompts(*crossing
 my fingers*) will let you know how this turns out.


something to keep in mind  portmaster does the same thing and all of
portupgrades switches work with portmaster, the only significant difference
is that portmaster will run through and prompt you for all of the 'make
config' options first and then go about it's business unattended from that
point on... it will test for a valid set of config options in all of it's
deps before it builds anything, so for something large like gnome, you might
sit there for a while answering config screens, but once it's done, it will
require no more interaction unless a make dies for some reason...

-- 
 A: Yes.
 Q: Are you sure?
 A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.

 Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Antonio Olivares
 something to keep in mind  portmaster does the same thing and all of
 portupgrades switches work with portmaster, the only significant difference
 is that portmaster will run through and prompt you for all of the 'make
 config' options first and then go about it's business unattended from that
 point on... it will test for a valid set of config options in all of it's
 deps before it builds anything, so for something large like gnome, you might
 sit there for a while answering config screens, but once it's done, it will
 require no more interaction unless a make dies for some reason...

 --
 A: Yes.
 Q: Are you sure?
 A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.

 Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?

Now, another question.  I was thinking about this.  Should I have
popped in a dvd and just used it to upgrade?

Should I have run
# make buildworld
or some magical command(s) that will build the system against newer
binaries and newer ports so that the system works better and
optimized?

I have limited experience using FreeBSD :(, have used it on and off
since release 5.3 with KDE 3.4/3.5 series.  I installed it and had
dialup at home tried to get the ltmodem port working, but did not
succeed :(, and I left it as pristine as it was.  I also got a
BSDLiveCD : by Scott Ullrich:

http://livebsd.com/
\begin{quote}
Inception
LiveBSD was founded by Scott Ullrich and Chris Buechler in January
2004. It started its life as an open source project, modifying
FreeSBIE scripts to build FreeBSD-based live CD's. A name was decided
on, and the domain registered on February 28, 2004.  The first LiveBSD
Desktop CD was released at that time, a KDE desktop live CD based on
FreeBSD 5.2, built using modified FreeSBIE scripts.
\end{quote}

I really liked it and used it at school.  However the project died/was
unsupported, it appears FreeSBIE has not had much love either.

So far it has not prompted me for any configurations.  Had done that
for two/three days with the previous command:

# portupgrade -af

Then
# freebsd-update install

but the ports/packages were still for old 8.1 release :(, now I have
updated ports tree with
# portsnap fetch
# portsnap extract
and
# portsnap install

and running :

# portupgrade -arRp

I hope that it would finish soon.  I don't know enough like I would
like to.  Sadly :( except for installing some ports [cd
/usr/ports/editor/some-package/, make install clean] and the package
would build after configuring some stuff :), but now the stuff was
overwhelming :( and I would have preferred to learn a quick and not
too painful way of updating :)  But this is part of learning and I
will take it in stride.

It is building new documentation packages handbook for several
languages some new packages and it is moving nicely :)

Regards,

Antonio
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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Polytropon
 you must proceed for a system
upgrade based on sources.



 and running :
 
 # portupgrade -arRp
 
 I hope that it would finish soon. 

Depends on your computer's power and which ports are
currently installed. :-)



 I don't know enough like I would
 like to. 

You will easily learn by doing.



 Sadly :( except for installing some ports [cd
 /usr/ports/editor/some-package/, make install clean] and the package
 would build after configuring some stuff :), but now the stuff was
 overwhelming :( and I would have preferred to learn a quick and not
 too painful way of updating :)  But this is part of learning and I
 will take it in stride.

If you want to intendedly build a big port from source as
you've correctly mentioned, use the command

# make config-recursive

before the build. This will make sure all dependencies are
checked for make config screens, and they are visited
first. Then, run

# make install

to perform the actual install which will then NOT be interrupted
by a make config screen.



 It is building new documentation packages handbook for several
 languages some new packages and it is moving nicely :)

You can easily configure _which_ languages you want the
documentation for.



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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
 following advice in handbook:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
 
 ran
 # freebsd-update fetch
 # freebsd-update install
 
 # portupgrade -af
 
 # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade
 
 then
 
 # freebsd-update install
 
 Tried to do this:
 # portupgrade -f ruby
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
 # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
 # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
 # portupgrade -af
 
 Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again
 
 # freebsd-update install
 
 and had nothing more to do :(
 
 I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :
 
 # portupgrade -arRp
 
 will this prompt me for customizations?

Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm
updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens
before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade
hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the
options.

As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you
don't want to change the default options.

 
 Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions.  I am taking the plunge a little
 further.  Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a
 few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am
 trying to learn more and setup the firewall.  I set up the simple
 example setup by Polytropon and most is working.  My freebsd version
 has moved to FreeBSD 8.2
 
 
 
 [olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a
 FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE
 #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011
 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Antonio

Regards,

-- 

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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 5 May 2011, Chris Brennan wrote:


something to keep in mind  portmaster does the same thing and all of
portupgrades switches work with portmaster,


portmaster doesn't have the same switches as portupgrade.  Or, being 
more precise, it has some of the same option flags, but they mean 
something completely different.  For example, -R.


the only significant difference is that portmaster will run through 
and prompt you for all of the 'make config' options first and then go 
about it's business unattended from that point on...


The -c or -C options for portupgrade do that, but they aren't on by 
default.


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Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts?

2011-05-05 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 5 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote:


Dear all,

I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it
following advice in handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

ran
# freebsd-update fetch
# freebsd-update install

# portupgrade -af

# freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade

then

# freebsd-update install

Tried to do this:
# portupgrade -f ruby
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
# portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
# portupgrade -af

Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again


portupgrade is written in Ruby and uses ruby-bdb, so this may not work. 
-f is of questionable value.  Why not just cd to the port directories, 
and 'make clean build deinstall install'?



# freebsd-update install

and had nothing more to do :(

I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running :

# portupgrade -arRp


-a is equivalent to -arR.  And that's building packages, which is not 
necessary unless you want to copy them to another machine.



will this prompt me for customizations?


Options menus?  Yes, the ports will ask on their own.  If you use the -c 
or -C options, portupgrade will do all of them at the start of the 
process.

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Re: running portupgrade -a

2007-07-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 29/06/07, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

It seems like a lot of people keep their ports regularly up to date by just
running portupgrade -a. I've seen it online, and in books.

As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to look for
potential issues with every package that you're going to upgrade. So, is
running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't checked for issues
for your system?



I generally run pkg_version -vIL= after any portsnap
which gives me a simple list of things to upgrade.
Then, based on a lot of broken stuff over the years,
you can merrily pick your way through.  For something
like cairo or gtk* (or gettext), that many other things
depend upon I will run
# portupgrade -fr cairo
Part of this is the whole upgrade once every couple
of weeks or oft'ner so you don't get overwhealmed
by the number of upgrades at any time.
ports-mgmt/portmaster has a nifty feature in -l but
does not seem to have any equivalent to portupgrade -fr.

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Re: running portupgrade -a

2007-07-01 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Sunday 01 July 2007 17:19:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/06/07, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  It seems like a lot of people keep their ports regularly up to date by
  just running portupgrade -a. I've seen it online, and in books.
 
  As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to look for
  potential issues with every package that you're going to upgrade. So, is
  running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't checked for
  issues for your system?

 I generally run pkg_version -vIL= after any portsnap
 which gives me a simple list of things to upgrade.
 Then, based on a lot of broken stuff over the years,
 you can merrily pick your way through.  For something
 like cairo or gtk* (or gettext), that many other things
 depend upon I will run
 # portupgrade -fr cairo
 Part of this is the whole upgrade once every couple
 of weeks or oft'ner so you don't get overwhealmed
 by the number of upgrades at any time.
 ports-mgmt/portmaster has a nifty feature in -l but
 does not seem to have any equivalent to portupgrade -fr.

i have another good one for sorting out what needs to be updated:

pkg_version -v|grep needs

this will show only the ports that need to upgraded.

cheers,
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running portupgrade -a

2007-06-29 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hi,

It seems like a lot of people keep their ports regularly up to date by just
running portupgrade -a. I've seen it online, and in books. 

As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to look for
potential issues with every package that you're going to upgrade. So, is
running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't checked for issues
for your system?

Otherwise, the ports change so fast that if you don't regularly update, when
you do go to upgrade you may find yourself in a difficult position to do so. 

Mike
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Re: running portupgrade -a

2007-06-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:14:52PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: 

   
 Hi,   
   
  
   
   
  
 It seems like a lot of people keep their ports regularly up to date by just   
   
  
 running portupgrade -a. I've seen it online, and in books.
   
  
   
   
  
 As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to look for   
   
  
 potential issues with every package that you're going to upgrade. So, is  
   
  
 running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't checked for issues  
   
  
 for your system?  
   
  
   
   
  
 Otherwise, the ports change so fast that if you don't regularly update, when  
   
  
 you do go to upgrade you may find yourself in a difficult position to do so.  
   
  


   
I check the output of the following portversion command line to see what

   
software will be upgraded if I issue the portupgrade -a command:  

   


   
  portversion | grep -v =   

   


   
This ensures that packages with up-to-date versions and no special notes

   
are ignored.  I then compare that list of packages to the UPDATING file 

   
to see if there's anything that requires special attention. 

   


   
The UPDATING file is organized in reverse chronological order.  This

   
means that you need only read down as far as the first date in the file 

   
that is old enough so you know you've updated since then.   

   


   
Once I have checked the portversion output against the UPDATING file, I 

   
run this command

running portupgrade -a

2007-06-29 Thread Robert Huff
Michael P. Soulier writes:

  As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to
  look for potential issues with every package that you're going to
  upgrade. So, is running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely
  haven't checked for issues for your system?

I cannot remember the last time I did this.
Why?
1) I update regularly, at least twice a week.  (Exception:
OpenOffice.)  It usually takes an hour or so.
2) portupgrade is not bullet-proof.  More than once over the
years it's exploded over a single port, with consequences for the
pkgdb.  Clean-up was sometimes trivial ... and sometimes horrendous.
As a result, even when I've checked for known issues I am
unintersted in a (supposedly) fire and forget process involving
(in one case) 600+ ports.


Robert Huff

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Re: running portupgrade -a

2007-06-29 Thread r17fbsd

At 07:14 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote:
So, is running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't 
checked for issues

for your system?


I just started using portupgrade recently, and no, I would NOT let it 
rip with the --all option.


I find it's most useful for the libraries and required packages that 
don't need any compile-time options nor config files.  Those sorta 
things I install from packages anyway.  So I started with a list of 
stuff that required compile time control and/or configuration. ls 
/var/db/ports and pkg-info are a good start...  Then run 
portupgrade -aiP  -i asks for confirmation on each, and -P tries to 
get it from packages (binary) rather than ports.  Let that update all 
the background junk.


Than go back and research and possibly manually remake  install the 
primary apps (eg:  apache, samba, squid, in my case.)


   HTH, -RW

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Re: running portupgrade -a

2007-06-29 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Michael P. Soulier wrote:

Hi,

It seems like a lot of people keep their ports regularly up to date by just
running portupgrade -a. I've seen it online, and in books. 


As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to look for
potential issues with every package that you're going to upgrade. So, is
running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't checked for issues
for your system?

Otherwise, the ports change so fast that if you don't regularly update, when
you do go to upgrade you may find yourself in a difficult position to do so. 


Mike,

Read the list, read /usr/ports/UPDATING and you're usually quite safe at 
least with -RELEASE or -STABLE. The FreeBSD ports system is an excellent 
tool and I have yet to see a better one.


You could do the upgrade procedure in many ways, this is what I do,

portupgrade -avn - this will show you what could be upgraded.
A brief search in UPDATING for issues
A brief look in the @ports and @questions perhaps
Usually no major hazzles so I just do a portupgrade -av and let it run, 
if there are any problems on the way I'll go back and fix them 
afterwards. This would be the typical scenario for my home or work PC's, 
however, if it's an important production server I always run it on a 
test box first.


Good luck!
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Re: running portupgrade -a

2007-06-29 Thread Randy Pratt
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:14:52 -0400
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 It seems like a lot of people keep their ports regularly up to date by just
 running portupgrade -a. I've seen it online, and in books. 

I've been updating ports daily for several years using portupgrade
since that seemed the best for me.  Doing it on a frequent basis
usually keeps the number of ports changing to a smaller number and
it seems easier to track down any issues that crop up.

 As /usr/ports/UPDATING is rather large, it seems impossible to look for
 potential issues with every package that you're going to upgrade. So, is
 running portupgrade -a a good idea, as you likely haven't checked for issues
 for your system?

Its only necessary to check the entries in UPDATING since your last
update.  If you don't check the entries before updating, its
possible that a problem might happen.  The more frequent you update,
the less new entries there are to check of course.

 Otherwise, the ports change so fast that if you don't regularly update, when
 you do go to upgrade you may find yourself in a difficult position to do so. 

Agreed.  It may even reach the point where so many ports need
updated that it may be just as fast to deinstall all ports and
install fresh.

Frequent updating also gains you more familarity with the ports
system.  I don't think there are any tools that are 100%
perfect and human errors do happen.

HTH

Randy
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Re: Alternative to Running Portupgrade -rf In Upgrade of expat2

2006-02-05 Thread a non y mouse
Bob Perry wrote:
 I have 48 dependencies on one box and 151 on another and only use a
 dialup service.  Disconnections are common and can be a real problem in
 this situation.

sounds like it's time to start downloading them all and go to bed ;)

i feel you...when I got my first UNIX workstation i built X11 from
source. it took almost 3 full days :( am so glad i don't have to live
with dialup anymore.

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Alternative to Running Portupgrade -rf In Upgrade of expat2

2006-02-04 Thread Bob Perry

/usr/ports/UPDATING recommends that users of textproc/expat2
run portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 to properly update expat2 and all of 
its dependencies.  Am I correct in that I should be able to run 
portupgrade on the dependencies individually once identified?


I have 48 dependencies on one box and 151 on another and only use a 
dialup service.  Disconnections are common and can be a real problem in 
this situation.


thnx

Bob
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Re: Alternative to Running Portupgrade -rf In Upgrade of expat2

2006-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/4/06, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /usr/ports/UPDATING recommends that users of textproc/expat2
 run portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 to properly update expat2 and all of
 its dependencies.  Am I correct in that I should be able to run
 portupgrade on the dependencies individually once identified?

Yes.  Tediously.  I have about 74 things that depend on expat.
Or you could ignore the whole thing until something important
depending on expat needs upgrading and do the mess then.
Firefox might count as this, maybe X.  Both of which seem to
have updates this last week.

 I have 48 dependencies on one box and 151 on another and only use a
 dialup service.  Disconnections are common and can be a real problem in
 this situation.

Shouldn't matter for most of them if you didn't delete your distfiles
as they are merely(!) being rebuilt with expat 2.  If you deleted your
distfiles, or close with make distclean you will have to download
them anew, sadly.

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RE: Alternative to Running Portupgrade -rf In Upgrade of expat2

2006-02-04 Thread Conrad Sabatier

On 04-Feb-2006 Bob Perry wrote:
 /usr/ports/UPDATING recommends that users of textproc/expat2
 run portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 to properly update expat2 and all of 
 its dependencies.  Am I correct in that I should be able to run 
 portupgrade on the dependencies individually once identified?

Sure, you could upgrade the dependent ports manually, if you wish.

I'd suggest doing a pkg_info -R gettext\* and saving the resulting list
of dependencies, so you'll have an easy reference.

 I have 48 dependencies on one box and 151 on another and only use a 
 dialup service.  Disconnections are common and can be a real problem in 
 this situation.

Are the two boxes networked together?  If so, you could have the distfiles
directory on one machine and mount it on the other via NFS, thereby
avoiding the need to download to each machine separately.

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Re: Alternative to Running Portupgrade -rf In Upgrade of expat2

2006-02-04 Thread Conrad Sabatier

On 04-Feb-2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/4/06, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /usr/ports/UPDATING recommends that users of textproc/expat2
 run portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 to properly update expat2 and all of
 its dependencies.  Am I correct in that I should be able to run
 portupgrade on the dependencies individually once identified?
 
 Yes.  Tediously.  I have about 74 things that depend on expat.
 Or you could ignore the whole thing until something important
 depending on expat needs upgrading and do the mess then.
 Firefox might count as this, maybe X.  Both of which seem to
 have updates this last week.
 
 I have 48 dependencies on one box and 151 on another and only use a
 dialup service.  Disconnections are common and can be a real problem in
 this situation.
 
 Shouldn't matter for most of them if you didn't delete your distfiles
 as they are merely(!) being rebuilt with expat 2.  If you deleted your
 distfiles, or close with make distclean you will have to download
 them anew, sadly.

Good point.  This is why I *never* use the distclean target.  Instead, I
do a periodic portsclean -CDD (man portsclean).

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Re: Alternative to Running Portupgrade -rf In Upgrade of expat2

2006-02-04 Thread Bob Perry

Conrad Sabatier wrote:

On 04-Feb-2006 Bob Perry wrote:

/usr/ports/UPDATING recommends that users of textproc/expat2
run portupgrade -rf textproc/expat2 to properly update expat2 and all of 
its dependencies.  Am I correct in that I should be able to run 
portupgrade on the dependencies individually once identified?


Sure, you could upgrade the dependent ports manually, if you wish.

I'd suggest doing a pkg_info -R gettext\* and saving the resulting list
of dependencies, so you'll have an easy reference.

Think I'll run portaudit first and go on from there.


I have 48 dependencies on one box and 151 on another and only use a 
dialup service.  Disconnections are common and can be a real problem in 
this situation.


Are the two boxes networked together?  If so, you could have the distfiles
directory on one machine and mount it on the other via NFS, thereby
avoiding the need to download to each machine separately.
One box is more of a server and the other functions primarily as my 
FreeBSD desktop machine which also runs Suse Linux and XP operating 
systems.  Hoping to learn something with this setup.


Will need to look into your suggestion of sharing a distfile directory.

This particular issue with expat caught me by surprise.  I upgraded 
expat2 last week and wasn't aware of any problem but did run into an 
unexpected problem with the gnome desktop which hasn't been resolved 
yet.  Maybe expat2 was involved.


Thanks everyone,
Bob




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Simple program to check for problems prior to running portupgrade

2004-12-24 Thread Bill Moran

http://www.potentialtech.com/wmoran/portupgrade-check.php

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Re: Simple program to check for problems prior to running portupgrade

2004-12-24 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 19:28 -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 http://www.potentialtech.com/wmoran/portupgrade-check.php
 

Nice job, Bill!  Appears to work well here.

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Re: Simple program to check for problems prior to running portupgrade

2004-12-24 Thread Jay O'Brien
Bill Moran wrote:

 http://www.potentialtech.com/wmoran/portupgrade-check.php
 

Very nice. I just waded through /usr/ports/UPDATING for the 
first time, and seeing your extracting tool immediately after 
that exercise shows me how valuable your tool will be in the 
future. 

It also forced me to learn how to use gunzip and chmod, but 
those were trivial compared to the portupgrade process.

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Rio Linda, California USA

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How to exclude upgrading kde in running 'portupgrade'

2004-06-03 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi folks

I am prepared upgrading kde-3.1.4 to kde-3.2.2. 
Because I am running FreeBSD 5.2 on a slow PC,
AMD-k6-350, I will take following route

# cd /
# pkg_delete kde\* arts\* qt\* quanta\* kdevelop\*
# env
PACKAGESITE=http://people.fruitsalad.org/lofi/packages/5.2.1-RELEASE/Latest/
pkg_add -r kde

However to avoid running into conflict of dependencies
which are unknown to me I will run following steps
first to upgrade all other packages including
dependencies;

# cd /
# cvsup -g /usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile
# cvsup -g /usr/local/etc/cvsup/stable-supfile

and then
# portupgrade -aRrv -x kde

I don't know whether the '-x' tag will excluding
upgrading kde otherwise the PC will run for several
days.

Any suggestion?  TIA

B.R.
Stephen Liu

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Re: How to exclude upgrading kde in running 'portupgrade'

2004-06-03 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 # portupgrade -aRrv -x kde
 
 I don't know whether the '-x' tag will excluding
 upgrading kde otherwise the PC will run for several
 days.

That should work.  If you want to see for sure before starting, use
the -n option -- that's exactly why it exists.

It sounds like this will be a common situation for you, so you might
want to use pkgtools.conf to exclude it from future runs too.
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Re: How to exclude upgrading kde in running 'portupgrade'

2004-06-03 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Lowell,

Tks for your advice.

  # portupgrade -aRrv -x kde
  
  I don't know whether the '-x' tag will excluding
  upgrading kde otherwise the PC will run for
  several days.
 
 That should work.  If you want to see for sure
 before starting, use
 the -n option -- that's exactly why it exists.
 
 It sounds like this will be a common situation for
 you, so you might
 want to use pkgtools.conf to exclude it from future
 runs too.

I read  /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf

Whether I add
disabled_kde.sh

will take effect.

TIA

B.R.
Stephen 



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Problem after running portupgrade (continue)

2004-05-26 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi folks,

I found following files on

# ls -lh /tmp/
srwxrwxrwx  1 wnn  wheel   0B Mar 28 23:22
cd_sockV4
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 25 19:33
file1XG2EX
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 25 22:37
file38j0wR
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 23 23:41
file4Umjgt
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 24 23:03
fileBSC8C0
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 24 23:41
fileQJVrqc
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 23 20:04
fileZZ7EKb
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 23 00:27
fileZzv73Y
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 27 09:01
filedInBFW
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 25 15:40
filehXKshb
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 26 23:47
filel6qaBo
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 23 00:29
filelVIjRu
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 25 23:37
fileq1kqeJ
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 23 19:57
fileqqmG1v
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 25 13:08
filercSbq1
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 23 08:15
fileshMHVV
srwxr-xr-x  1 satimis  wheel   0B May 26 00:09
filewt72dp

But they can't be moved to /urs/tmp

Any advise?  What are they for and how they were
created.  Can I delete them all

TIA

B.R.
Stephen Liu

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Re: Problem after running portupgrade

2004-05-25 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Chris,

Tks for your advice.
 
 Look into /var/log for a list of files like this
 example:
 
 cron.0.bz2  maillog.1.bz2  
 sendmail.st.0
 cron.1.bz2  maillog.2.bz2  
 sendmail.st.1
 
 Note the bz2 extensions and the files that have
 digits  at the end.
 Chances are you may have many. You can delete these
 if you wish.

ls /var/log/
XFree86.0-1.log messages.0.bz2
XFree86.0-2.log messages.1.bz2
XFree86.0-2.log~messages.2.bz2
XFree86.0-3.log messages.3.bz2
XFree86.0.log   messages.4.bz2
XFree86.0.log.old   messages.5.bz2
XFree86.0.log~  mount.today
XFree86.8-1.log ppp.log
XFree86.8.log   ppp.log.0.bz2
XFree86.8.log.old   ppp.log.1.bz2
XFree86.8.log~  ppp.log.2.bz2
auth.logppp.log.3.bz2
auth.log.0.bz2  ppp.log~
cronppp.yd_040225
cron.0.bz2  scrollkeeper.log
cron.1.bz2  security
cron.2.bz2  sendmail.st
cron.3.bz2  sendmail.st.0
cupssendmail.st.1
debug.log   sendmail.st.10
dmesg.today sendmail.st.2
dmesg.yesterday sendmail.st.3
kdm.log sendmail.st.4
lastlog sendmail.st.5
lpd-errssendmail.st.6
maillog sendmail.st.7
maillog.0.bz2   sendmail.st.8
maillog.1.bz2   sendmail.st.9
maillog.2.bz2   setuid.today
maillog.3.bz2   setuid.yesterday
maillog.4.bz2   slip.log
maillog.5.bz2   userlog
maillog.6.bz2   wtmp
maillog.7.bz2   xdm.log
messagesxferlog

I am going to delete following files;

/var/log/
messages.0.bz2
messages.1.bz2
messages.2.bz2
messages.3.bz2
messages.4.bz2
messages.5.bz2
ppp.log.0.bz2
ppp.log.1.bz2
ppp.log.2.bz2
ppp.log.3.bz2
auth.log.0.bz2
cron.0.bz2
cron.1.bz2
cron.2.bz2
cron.3.bz2
sendmail.st.1
sendmail.st.10
sendmail.st.2
sendmail.st.3
sendmail.st.4
sendmail.st.5
sendmail.st.6
sendmail.st.7
sendmail.st.8
sendmail.st.9
maillog.0.bz2
maillog.1.bz2
maillog.2.bz2
maillog.3.bz2
maillog.4.bz2
maillog.5.bz2
maillog.6.bz2
maillog.7.bz2

Any comment ???

 Also, look around the dirs within /var  You may have
 something logging such as 
 a core dump.

$ ls /var
account db  log rwho
at  empty   mailspool
backups games   msgstmp
crash   heimdal preserveyp
cronlib run

$ ls /var/backups
aliases.bak master.passwd.bak
group.bak   master.passwd.bak2
group.bak2

Can I delete all above files ???

$ ls /var/tmp
gconfd-root svh3k.tmp
gconfd-satimis  svh3m.tmp
linux_base-7.1_5.tbzsvmhc.tmp
mapping-rootsvmhe.tmp
mapping-satimis svmhg.tmp
orbit-root  teTeX-2.0.2_2.tbz
orbit-satimis   tmp.0.QQlif7
pkgdb.fixme tmp.0.dr0vBP
sv603.tmp   tmp.0.kDy79T
sv605.tmp   tmp.0.lu8h4X
sv607.tmp   tmp.1.Egne6s
svd5k.tmp   tmp.1.JW15qD
svd5m.tmp   tmp.1.nNXAdw
svd5o.tmp   tmp.1.xygGQv
svh3i.tmp   vi.recover

Can I delete above files with .tmp extension and all
tmp files ???

# ls /var/cron
tabs

# ls /var/run
cron.pid
.

core dump
could not be found

B.R.
Stephen

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Re: Problem after running portupgrade

2004-05-25 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Remko,

Tks for your advice.

 It says to you that the var drive is full, the var
 drive keeps logs etc 
 so pretty crucial that it has some space. Go to
 /var/log and check which 
 files are a bit big and rotate them. You can do
 that by entering 
 single user mode, mount the /var, go to /var/log,
 type `ls -lh' it gives
 you the filesizes
 
 Some file has to be what bigger then the rest, so we
 need to clean it a bit.
 Mount the /usr drive and create the directory
 /usr/tmp (since that drive 
 has a lot of space left), now mv
 /var/log/$bigfilename /usr/tmp/ and
 touch /var/log/$bigfilename (So that it does exist).

It is not the files on /var/log/ taking up space but
following files on /var/tmp/

# ls -lh
total 192544
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel  2.3M May 14 22:26
tmp.0.QQlif7
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel  2.3M May 14 22:24
tmp.0.dr0vBP
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel  2.3M May 15 15:58
tmp.0.kDy79T
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel  2.3M May 14 22:29
tmp.0.lu8h4X
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel   26M May 14 22:26
tmp.1.Egne6s
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel   72M May 14 22:25
tmp.1.JW15qD
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel   32M May 14 22:29
tmp.1.nNXAdw
-rw-r--r--  1 satimis  wheel   48M May 15 15:59
tmp.1.xygGQv
.

I have no idea what they are and when they were
created.

# df
Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity 
Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a253678   45872   18751220%/
devfs   1   10   100%/dev
/dev/ad4s1e2536784672   228712 2%/tmp
/dev/ad4s1f  36354884 4807654 2863884014%/usr
/dev/ad4s1d253678   57664   17572025%/var

 If you reboot now the system will come up and i
 guess that the things 
 are starting to work again.
 
 The Failure of gnome is too less space on /var i
 think,

After rebooting the PC, Gnome revived.  Still have
some minor problems, such as on KDE desktop Konsole
window, selected fonts unable to save (saving settings
having no function)

 The portsclean package? What's that? Search the
 internet

'portsclean' is an utility of 'portupgrade'.  Very
powerful taking about 5 minute to complete on my slow
system.  Now it got lost.  I think I have to reinstall
'portupgrade'

 Try changing your settings in Konsole now, perhaps
 there is enough space 
 now.

Still having problem.  Please see above.

Tks again for your advice.

B.R.
Stephen

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Problem after running portupgrade

2004-05-24 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi folks,

I encountered problems after running

# portupgrade -aRrvO

At completion following warning popup;
.
..
Backing up the old version

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible
reason follows.
bzip2: No space left on device
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
** Backup failed.
---  Uninstallation of linux_base-7.1_5 ended at:
Mon, 24 May 2004 22:20:19 +0800 (consumed 00:00:09)
---  Upgrade of emulators/linux_base ended at: Mon,
24 May 2004 22:20:19 +0800 (consumed 00:18:22)
[Updating the pkgdb format:dbm_hash in /var/db/pkg
... - 260 packages found (-0 +2) ..
/var: write failed, filesystem is full
---  Session ended at: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:20:22
+0800 (consumed 20:46:59)
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:241:in
`origin': dbm_store failed: Cannot update the pkgdb!]
(PkgDB:BError)
from
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkginfo.rb:178:in
`origin'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:709:in
`do_upgrade'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:686:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:685:in `each'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:685:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in
`initialize'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `new'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1846
#

Reboot PC. Gnome could not be started with a warning
something like server configure error.

I have no chance to write down the complete warning
because it jumped to another empty window after a
while. Nor I have an editor to copy the warning down.

KDE started properly. Following problems were found.

1)
# /usr/src/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate updatedb

Rebuilding locate database:
/var: write failed, filesystem is full
cat: stdout: No space left on device

2)
# df

Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity 
Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a253678   45872   18751220%/
devfs   1   10   100%/dev
/dev/ad4s1e2536784672   228712 2%/tmp
/dev/ad4s1f  36354884 4619692 2882680214%/usr
/dev/ad4s1d253678  249478   -16094   107%/var

3)
# portsclean -C
portsclean: Command not found

# cd /usr/ports
# make search name=portsclean
No printout

4) On KDE desktop
Konsole window - Font characters being huge
Settings - Font - Custom
started 'request font' window. It was possible to
select font.

But
Settings - Save Settings
seemed having no function. On starting a new Konsole
window fonts were still huge.

That were the mistakes having been discovered. Others
unknown yet.

Kindly advise.
1) How to free space. The HD is of 40 G in size solely
for FreeBSD 5.2
2) Where can I find 'portsclean' package
3) How to discover the cause of failure in starting
Gnome
4) How to set fonts on Konsole window

TIA

B.R.
Stephen Liu

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Re: Problem after running portupgrade

2004-05-24 Thread Chris
On Monday 24 May 2004 11:49 am, Stephen Liu wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I encountered problems after running

 # portupgrade -aRrvO

 At completion following warning popup;
 .
 ..
 Backing up the old version

 /var: write failed, filesystem is full

Look into /var/log for a list of files like this example:


cron.0.bz2  maillog.1.bz2   sendmail.st.0
cron.1.bz2  maillog.2.bz2   sendmail.st.1

Note the bz2 extensions and the files that have digits  at the end.
Chances are you may have many. You can delete these if you wish.

Also, look around the dirs within /var  You may have something logging such as 
a core dump.

Just a thought.

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Re: Problem after running portupgrade

2004-05-24 Thread Remko Lodder
Hey again Stephen,
Stephen Liu wrote:
Hi folks,
I encountered problems after running
# portupgrade -aRrvO
At completion following warning popup;
.
..
Backing up the old version
/var: write failed, filesystem is full
bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible
reason follows.
bzip2: No space left on device
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
** Backup failed.
---  Uninstallation of linux_base-7.1_5 ended at:
Mon, 24 May 2004 22:20:19 +0800 (consumed 00:00:09)
---  Upgrade of emulators/linux_base ended at: Mon,
24 May 2004 22:20:19 +0800 (consumed 00:18:22)
[Updating the pkgdb format:dbm_hash in /var/db/pkg
... - 260 packages found (-0 +2) ..
/var: write failed, filesystem is full
---  Session ended at: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:20:22
+0800 (consumed 20:46:59)
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:241:in
`origin': dbm_store failed: Cannot update the pkgdb!]
(PkgDB:BError)
from
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkginfo.rb:178:in
`origin'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:709:in
`do_upgrade'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:686:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:685:in `each'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:685:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in
`initialize'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `new'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1846
#
Reboot PC. Gnome could not be started with a warning
something like server configure error.
I have no chance to write down the complete warning
because it jumped to another empty window after a
while. Nor I have an editor to copy the warning down.
KDE started properly. Following problems were found.
1)
# /usr/src/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate updatedb
Rebuilding locate database:
/var: write failed, filesystem is full
cat: stdout: No space left on device
2)
# df
Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity 
Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a253678   45872   18751220%/
devfs   1   10   100%/dev
/dev/ad4s1e2536784672   228712 2%/tmp
/dev/ad4s1f  36354884 4619692 2882680214%/usr
/dev/ad4s1d253678  249478   -16094   107%/var

3)
# portsclean -C
portsclean: Command not found
# cd /usr/ports
# make search name=portsclean
No printout
4) On KDE desktop
Konsole window - Font characters being huge
Settings - Font - Custom
started 'request font' window. It was possible to
select font.
But
Settings - Save Settings
seemed having no function. On starting a new Konsole
window fonts were still huge.
That were the mistakes having been discovered. Others
unknown yet.
Kindly advise.
1) How to free space. The HD is of 40 G in size solely
for FreeBSD 5.2
2) Where can I find 'portsclean' package
3) How to discover the cause of failure in starting
Gnome
4) How to set fonts on Konsole window
TIA
B.R.
Stephen Liu
Ofcourse you searched the internet, the archives etc? (guess not)
It says to you that the var drive is full, the var drive keeps logs etc 
so pretty crucial that it has some space. Go to /var/log and check which 
files are a bit big and rotate them. You can do that by entering 
single user mode, mount the /var, go to /var/log, type `ls -lh' it gives
you the filesizes

Some file has to be what bigger then the rest, so we need to clean it a bit.
Mount the /usr drive and create the directory /usr/tmp (since that drive 
has a lot of space left), now mv /var/log/$bigfilename /usr/tmp/ and
touch /var/log/$bigfilename (So that it does exist).

If you reboot now the system will come up and i guess that the things 
are starting to work again.

The Failure of gnome is too less space on /var i think,
The portsclean package? What's that? Search the internet ;)
Try changing your settings in Konsole now, perhaps there is enough space 
now.


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when running portupgrade triggering reboot / how to do detailedsystem log to see precise reboot trigger?

2003-09-26 Thread rtjohan
Have not been able to keep machine up-to-date with cvsup since each time 
after the cvsup has completed, the portupgrade reboots the machine.

Probably the first thing to do is to enable some log utility to capture 
what triggered the reboot.
How should I go about this - logging in as much detail to figure what 
happened?

Running FreeBSD 5.1 Release with KDE.

The applications/libraries are all up-to-date except for the list below. 
Seems obvious that upgrading one of those packages triggered the reboot. 
Here are the pieces that are out-of-date from cvsup:
   - arts
   - cdparanoia
   - cups-base
   - esound
   - gconf2
   - gnome-icon-theme
   - gnomevfs2
   - kdemultimedia
   - libbonobo
   - libbonoboui
   - libgnome
   - libgnomeui
   - linux_base
   - p5-Net
   - pcre
   - pilot-link
   - scrollkeeper



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Running portupgrade in the background?

2003-01-10 Thread Martin Gignac
Hi,

I'm often use portupgrade in combination with sudo from an SSH session and
up till now I've never been able to put the portupgrade process in the
background so that it can finish its job and I can safely exit the SSH
session.

Whenever I've done this the portupgrade process seems to die and I never
successfully create the desired port(s). I find that I always have to be
on a live session during the entire portupgrade build process for it to
finish successfully.

Is this the normal behavior? Is it really impossible to properly put the
protupgrade process in the background? Or am I just doing it all wrong?

I've tried different combinations of:

sudo portupgrade package 
sudo -b portupgrade package
sudo -b sh -c portupgrade package  /home/user/build.out 21

all to no avail...

-Martin

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Re: Running portupgrade in the background?

2003-01-10 Thread Chris Doherty
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 05:54:17PM -0500, Martin Gignac said: 
 Hi,
 
 I'm often use portupgrade in combination with sudo from an SSH session and
 up till now I've never been able to put the portupgrade process in the
 background so that it can finish its job and I can safely exit the SSH
 session.

when a process dies, in general all of its child processes die with it. in
this case the portupgrade process is a child of the ssh session and dies
when you log out.

the solution is nohup(1):

% nohup portupgrade $options 

which should leave the process running after you log out, and will dump
the output to the file nohup.out unless you redirect it elsewhere.

HTH,
chris


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