[Freedos-user] Freedos needs hardware testing tools...
Something specific to my hardware on my 486 DX2 66 must be causing fdupdate to crash, but there seem to be no diagnosis tools to find out what that is. Please rectify this problem. I want something that detects resource conflicts, flaky memory, etcetera. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos needs hardware testing tools...
Hi! Something specific to my hardware on my 486 DX2 66 must be causing fdupdate to crash, but there seem to be no diagnosis tools to find out what that is. Please rectify this problem. I want something that detects resource conflicts, flaky memory, etcetera. First try to boot without loading (J)EMM386, a common cause of problems is a bad default EMM386 configuration which makes UMB space available for DOS in areas that should stay reserved for something else, such as BIOS or extension cards. You can use a tool like PCISLEEP to get a list of devices. The Quarterdeck MFT Manifest tool is also freeware by now, might be useful even if it is not hardware oriented. Similar to a very extended MEM :-) There is also a RAM/resource info tool from Japheth that can be used to debug the autoconfig abilities of JEMM386, if you can not find it on (www) japheth.de you can always ask him by mail. Eric PS: For flaky memory, run MEMTEST86 or MEMTEST86+. There is also a version that can be started from DOS called MEMTESTE. Note that it can only start if no EMM386 is loaded. It works best if you do not load any other drivers at all before starting MEMTESTE... -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? Thanks! -- Fabrício Ceolin ulevel.com Diretor Executivo -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Installation Problems
Hello I am having problems installing the current version. I get everything completed and it seems to be ok, fdisked and set 2g to the os as primary partition, active and after booting from the CD Rom I can go to the c: and see all the files including the system ones. but when I try and boot from the harddrive after I go through all the system checks I get a blank screen. no cursor, no beeps etc nothing. If I then boot from the cd I can see everything on the harddrive. I tried out of fustration to install Puppy Linux. and that worked. Could it be working because Puppy did something else to the mbr or because of grub the bootloader? any thoughts here? it is a Fujitsu LifeBook 770Tx With an additional memory card, maxed out memory -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? The best method is to use programs that provide unloading as option so that they can properly unload themself. If you have to use a program without such an option you may want to try out the TSR Utilities (freeware without source code) which save some important system data before you install the program, then try to unload the program later by restoring this data. This method doesn't work for all programs so you have to be careful with it. I think the TSR Utilities don't work with programs loaded in FDCONFIG.SYS but you could try whether that program can be loaded by DEVLOAD (on Eric's site, or on the FreeDOS software page) instead. Regards, Christian -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). I recommend to have 2 different config sys menu items: With and without internet :-). Doskey should not be necessary, FreeCOM and 4DOS have built-in history... There are any way to unload programs without reboot? Some tools which work with snapshot and restore of some system state can do this, and some drivers have a built- in unload option, but it is easier and more stable in the result to just reboot. Booting DOS only takes seconds :-) Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Virtual PC 2007
Hi! I am having trouble with FreeDOS on Virtual PC 2007. I am able to install it OK, and two of the three (four?) boot options work. Option #2 (the default, and the one that doesn't work) results in the following error: Illegal instruction occured. CS= IP=EEC3 SS=D0B4 SP=0004 ES=0070 ...etc... ...etc... Aborting program EMM386 - unable to continue - Please reboot= The last four characters are a set of hexadecimal numbers that are change several times each second. I am able to boot to the command prompt using options #1 and #3, but am having trouble running software. For instance, I am trying to install the video game Out of this World, but receive the following errors when running the installation program: Line #1 in batchfile 'A:\INSTALL.BAT' too long If I try to run the setup file directly I get this error: Interrupt divide by zero, stack: 091B 04e3 ... ... I also am unable to read the SimCity installation disk in FreeDOS. I am able to mount the drive and change drive letters, but when I try to retrieve the directory contents using the DIR command I get this error: Volume in drive A Error reading from drive A: DOS error: sector not found Here are some details regarding my host system: AMD Sempron 3000+ 1.5GB RAM Windows XP Home GeForce 4 TI Plenty of free hard disk space Onboard sound/networking Samsung DVD writer SuperDisk IDE drive for reading floppies Details regarding my virtual system: Virtual PC 2007 128MB RAM 8MB video RAM 1MB code cache 1GB hard disk space Video mode: Text mode, 640 x 400 x 0 I'd appreciate any help you could provide. -Mike -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Problems
Hi Usul, Hello I am having problems installing the current version. I get everything completed and it seems to be ok, fdisked and set 2g to the os as primary partition, active You can easily use more with FAT32 and LBA... and after booting from the CD Rom I can go to the c: and see all the files including the system ones. but when I try and boot from the harddrive after I go through all the system checks I get a blank screen. no cursor, no beeps etc nothing. If I then boot from the cd I can see everything on the harddrive. Please explain what all the system checks means, do you get only the BIOS init or do you get at least some message like FreeDOS or Initdisk before the blank? Sometimes harddisks come with non-bootable MBRs, then marking as active is not enough. You could do something like FDISK /MBR but be aware that this will often destroy other boot menus such as GRUB... Which in turn can be fixed by re-installing GRUB, of course ;-). It is also possible that the SYS C: part somehow failed but then you can just run SYS C: manually once more. To check whether your C: drive is SYSed with FreeDOS, use the tool OSCHECK from your install CD or from WWW. Eric :-) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Installation difficulties...
Okay. I would really like to use FreeDOS, preferrably the full-install CD, and definitely with USB disk support. Problem is, the NIC in the computer I want to install it on (a 3Com 3C595-TX) does not appear to be recognized by either the default packet driver or the manufacturer's DOS driver, unless it requires some fiddling with the PCI arguments (which are, frankly, over my head.) And a large portion of the packages, including some absolutely critical ones like the USB mass storage driver, seem to rely on the installer's ability to use wget to download the latest version off the Internet. Is there a way around this problem, or am I SOL without a more commonly-supported network card? -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installation difficulties...
Hi, Okay. I would really like to use FreeDOS, preferrably the full-install CD, and definitely with USB disk support. Problem is, the NIC in the computer I On modern PC, your BIOS already does USB disk support for you and DOS. For the others, you can try the USB drivers made by Georg Potthast: www.georgpotthast.de/usb/ (see also Sioux server, NIC driver page ;-)) want to install it on (a 3Com 3C595-TX) does not appear to be recognized by either the default packet driver or the manufacturer's DOS driver, unless it requires some fiddling with the PCI arguments (which are, frankly, over my head.) And a large portion of the packages, including some absolutely You should give some more details about why the manufacturer driver fails. Any error messages? Did you try NwDSK yet? www.veder.com/nwdsk/ critical ones like the USB mass storage driver, seem to rely on the installer's ability to use wget to download the latest version off the Internet. Is there a way around this problem, or am I SOL without a more commonly-supported network card? On the FdDependencies page on the fd-doc wiki, you can see that mostly the following use internet (invoke wget) during install: FProt, ASPI, SCSI (not needed for BIOS drives), USBDOS, VIA (VIA audio) Also, wget, wattcp, fdstpop, bsflite, lnxsmal, lynx, lynxex, openxp, vnc, hxrt and arachne can be useful online. XHarbor and OWatcom are very big (XHarbor also requires OWatcom). I would recommend to NOT install any of the use internet during install packages initially, as internet connections often hang at this point. You can add and finetune internet drivers later. And of course you can download ZIPs with any other system where the internet does work and then unzip them on your DOS drive :-). Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] I want to port drivewire to freedos...
I have the C source code for the 1.7 release that is meant for Linux. I want to port this code to freedos and build a gem compatible interface for it. Drivewire, for those who don't know, is a piece of software that allows a color computer 1/2/3 to access via serial port a modern computer and the modern computer emulates a disk drive. These old computers used 5 1/4 low density floppies which are no more now. The drives for low density 5 1/4 floppies aren't available anymore. Drivewire doesn't always work, but most of the time it does. Programs that follow the Tandy standard for disk access have no problem with drivewire. Now then, the Linux version depends on specific Linux only C libraries. I need to know what the equivalent libraries are under Freedos and as necessary I will need to recode if the dos equivalent library is different. The following link: http://drivewireserver.cvs.sourceforge.net/drivewireserver/ is where the source code for the drivewire server can be downloaded from. I am interested in doing a port because Windows 98SE is awfully heavy on a 486 DX2-66 with only 20 megs of ram, and it isn't free. I could use some help getting the information about what the C library equivalents are under freedos and how they vary from the ones in Linux. Another area where I need help is understanding gem so I can make my drivewire port a gem application. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos needs hardware testing tools...
On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 10:25 +0100, Eric Auer wrote: Hi! Something specific to my hardware on my 486 DX2 66 must be causing fdupdate to crash, but there seem to be no diagnosis tools to find out what that is. Please rectify this problem. I want something that detects resource conflicts, flaky memory, etcetera. First try to boot without loading (J)EMM386, a common cause of problems is a bad default EMM386 configuration which makes UMB space available for DOS in areas that should stay reserved for something else, such as BIOS or extension cards. You can use a tool like PCISLEEP to get a list of devices. The Quarterdeck MFT Manifest tool is also freeware by now, might be useful even if it is not hardware oriented. Similar to a very extended MEM :-) There is also a RAM/resource info tool from Japheth that can be used to debug the autoconfig abilities of JEMM386, if you can not find it on (www) japheth.de you can always ask him by mail. Eric PS: For flaky memory, run MEMTEST86 or MEMTEST86+. There is also a version that can be started from DOS called MEMTESTE. Note that it can only start if no EMM386 is loaded. It works best if you do not load any other drivers at all before starting MEMTESTE... Okay, I have tried loading no drivers and then with just the packet driver running fdupdate. It still crashes. Is there a way to scan for bios usage of memory so that I can put in the necessary exceptions? The PCISLEEP comment is interesting, but I'm on an old EISA only Intel 80486 DX2-66 that uses 32 pin simms. The bios is an AMI bios circa 1993. I'll see about grabbing a copy of memteste. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] I want to port drivewire to freedos...
Now then, the Linux version depends on specific Linux only C libraries. I need to know what the equivalent libraries are under Freedos and as necessary I will need to recode if the dos equivalent library is different. O.K. It looks like it depends at least on pthreads, curses, termios, and linux-specific tty devices. Often (as is the case with curses), linux C libraries are available under FreeDOS with DJGPP; they are the same libraries, just re-compiled (DJGPP has a fairly POSIX-compatible c-library, it is somewhat comparable to cygwin on Windows.. Curses is easy, pdcurses is available for 16-bit or 32-bit DOS. Also ncurses is available for DJGPP. If you plan on implementing it with GEM, you would likely want to replace the parts that depend on curses with GEM-equivalent functions (curses does all of the screen-manipulation). If you plan on a 32-bit port (GEM has djgpp bindings IIRC), termios is available in the c-library to manipulate the screen and also there are pthreads libraries available for djgpp. But if termios is used to manipulate the serial ports as well, you would need to implement a file-system extention (see http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/libc/libc_321.html for a description) to handle serial devices as well as screen devices (and maybe also create your own termios interface to serial ports). The file-system extention would probably suffice to access linux-specific tty devices. If you plan on a 16-bit port, pthreads (a multi-threading library), would be a challenge to implement (but likely possible), and termios would be possible to implement, but I don't think there exists a termios-compatible library for 16-bit DOS. termios probably wouldn't be too difficult to implement for 16-bit DOS. Accesses to linux-specific tty devies would have to be replaced with DOS-equivalent functionality. Overall, it's a decently-sized job. Plus if you don't know how to write GEM applications, you would have to learn that as well. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
