Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Robert Riebisch  said:

  Nevertheless, I was looking for a "pixel painter" 
(= bitmap> manipulation program for PCX, 
GIF, PNG, or JPEG files), which is EVE not.

  How about building on LXPIC ? It is already 
in FreeDOS repository, so probably has no
license issues.
 
 I know it is a viewer, but already has limited
imge manipulation capabilities. Perhaps
some of its routines can be used in an
image manipulation program.

 I used it for viewing images under Lynx
browser;  with LxPic it was possible to 
view the image and return to Lynx in 
less time than was required just to 
launch the DISPLAY viewer recommended 
in Lynx documentation.

 Another advantage is that it can show 
images which bitmap is bigger than
all available RAM in the machine
(very slowly, but much better than not
being able to view  the whole image).



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[Freedos-user] 4DOS-license issue (Sideline)

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Robert Riebisch  said:

>I had a look at PAINT2 and it's a real mess! :-(

>I was unsuccessful to convince makers of NeoPaint
>(NeoSoft Corporation) or Desktop Paint (Alchemy Mindworks)
> to release their products under a FOSS license.

Does any one of them still offer their DOS products
whatever the license ? NeoPaint used to be shareware,
but I didn´t see it last time I looked into NeoSoftware site.







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[Freedos-user] DOSBOX Isn´t for everyone (off-topic remark)

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Today userbeit...@abwesend.de (Robinson West ?) said:

>Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM.

  About 1998 I did run (plod was a better description) 
 Red Hat 5.0 (kernel 2.0.32) in a 486 DX-50 with 4 MB 
 of RAM, but in text mode only. The machine and the 
 installation CD are still here. I used DR-DOS 5 and
 loadlin to boot, because the machine could not boot 
 from CD.





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[Freedos-user] Keyboard configuration

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Phil Reynolds asked:
> How  would I configure and compile a new keyboard layout,
> if for reasons of having a non-standard one I need to?

 XKEYB configuration files are text-only and well explained in 
the  documentation for this software. You can configure nearly
any keyboard layout using it. 
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[Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from floppy

[Jose Antonio Senna]

from: Jose Antonio Senna
<jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br>


 While it is no longer of use in the present case, I would like to add
that I have a small (~2k) utility to write the boot sector on a floppy, and
have used it for some 4-5 years. It is quite crude, as I wrote it for my use
only but, if is anyone is interested, I may attach it to an e-mail.
Regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] Preloa

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from: Jose Antonio Senna
<jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br>


 userbeit...@abwesend.de  said:
>  The PC I will install on, is a Pentium-D, has >2 GHz and >3GB RAM

 Mateus Viste said:
>  You have to make sure tough that both  computers use the exact same
> CHS/LBA/Large addressing schemes to access  the drive.
>  Your 486 probably needs you to enter these by hand anyway, but
>  the newer PC surely uses some hdd autodetection and might be
> tempted to rely on some more modern addressing model that might
>  or might not work out when moved to your 486.

  This is something that came to my mind after I posted my previous message.
  As Mateus Viste said, both computers MUST see  the same HD geometry,
or the target will be unable to boot anything at all.
  If your installing computer can enter setup mode by pressing DEL key
at start, before it tries to boot the O/S, then you may use the setup mode
to check how it views the HDD and afterwards configure the 486 to use
the same configuration (a 486 certainly can enter setup mode). If the
installing computer auto configures the HDD to a geometry not
available in the 486, you may change the geometry by hand to one
acceptable by both machines.

  I assume, from your messages, that you want a dual boot but now
have a blank HD.
  If you already have your PC-?booting DRDOS, then it is better to just copy
the FreeDOS package to the HD, then put it back in the 486 and perform
the installation there. Use the new computer to copy also a boot manager
to the HD, if the FreeDOS distro does not already have one.
 Again, pay attention to the HD geometry in every case you exchange it
between computers.
 The installing computer will probably correctly autodetect the geometry
of a partitioned HD, but it is better to check before any attempt to write
to it, in order to avoid garbling the HD contents.

Regards
JAS



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[Freedos-user] Preload an

[JOSE ANTONIO SENNA]

from: Jose Antonio Senna
<jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br>

 <userbeit...@abwesend.de> said:

> I have an original Intel 80486 with 50 MHz that I want
> to try FreeDOS on. I still haven't found the time so far
> and my first attempt came to an early halt because I
> couldn't get an installation media to start on this machine

> *) The 486-PC doesn't have a CD-ROM drive.

> *) The 486-PC doesn't have USB.

> *) I cannot easily create a 3.5 inch boot floppy to use
> it in the 486-PC.


> What I can do thou is plug the IDE HDD into another PC
> and pre-load FreeDOS there. Then, connecting the IDE HDD
> inside the 486-PC, FreeDOS should start.

 Some (maybe silly) remarks:

 -Is the HD blank or do you already have some O/S working
  in that PC ?

 -If you have say, MSDOS, on the PC do you want to keep it
  and make a dual-boot PC ?

 - DOS has been designed to boot from removable media, so
 it does not save HW info in the kernel.
  If the HD is blank, you can make it bootable with DOS in
 another PC, and it shall run on your target.
  Just write bare minimum CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files
 and edit them to install specific drivers and TSRs after
 the HD is on the target PC.

 Regards
 JAS


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[Freedos-user] HTTPS and

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from: Jose Antonio Senna
<jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br>

 On 26 july, Thomas Mueller said:

> ...(I) also have run Links with graphics
> in DOS, but that was years back.

  Do you remember on what machine you did this ?

> I used Doug Kaufman's DOS port of Lynx for
> online commerce but not banking, and not recently.

   I, too, used this port of Lynx as my main browser,
  inclusive for e-commerce, until 2014.  During past
  year access problems did increase a lot.

 Dan Schmidt said:

>  I use two that do SSL/TLS quite adequately:
>  Links2
>  http://links.twibright.com/download.php
>  lynx also does ssl, but this version takes some work to get going:
>  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/flY264GkHV8

 Under plain DOS ? On what kind of machine ?

Thank you for your attention
  JAS



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[Freedos-user] Booting FreeDOS from floppy

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 While it is no longer of use in the present case, I would like to add
that I have a small (~2k) utility to write the boot sector on a floppy, and
have used it for some 4-5 years. It is quite crude, as I wrote it for my use 
only but, if is anyone is interested, I may attach it to an e-mail.
Regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] Easy GUI desktop enviroment install

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 On 2016-01-27 Don Flowers  XFDOS is the best GUI i have use.
>https://code.google.com/archive/p/
> nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos/downloads
  
 I followed this link and all I got was a blank page.
 I don't know whether this is an issue with my browser 
 or my location, but would you please tell if there is 
 an ibiblio or Sourceforge link ?
 Regards
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[Freedos-user] Lynx latest versions

[Jose Antonio Senna]

On 12/22/14 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net said:

 Latest stable and development  editions of lynx.
 Karen

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014, Thomas Dickey wrote:

 The current version of lynx is 2.8.8

 It's available at
  http://lynx.isc.org/
  ftp://lynx.isc.org/lynx2.8.8/

 The last version of Lynx that I could find
a DOS version of was 2.8.5 .
 Do you have any later version ? Where did you
get it ?

 Regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com said:

 There are some Linux distros for older computers, and NetBSD and 
 FreeBSD can be installed on older computers.
 But building packages or the system from source is likely to be 
 prohibitively slow on older machines.

  But these distros do not run newer browsers. Indeed, there will 
 be even less apps available to a Linux distro that runs (plods ?) 
 in a 486 or early Pentium than to DOS.

 But there are some websites where lack of Flash support only stops 
 junk advertising from showing.

 Fortunately, most of those that use Flash fall in this category.
 
 I agree with D M Cunney that javascript is the most important
shortcoming of DOS browsers, but I think HTML5 less needed
than SSL v3

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[Freedos-user] Quickview 2.60 (digressions)

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 On the matter of browsers for DOS, Lynx, which I am using now,
supports https and has done so for 10+ years. What is not 
available in any DOS browser is javascript. Much of javascript
in web pages is to load and reload advertising, which I don't
miss at all. However, the (action) in many html forms nowadays 
is not a remote URL but a local javascript, that checks and
reformats the data before submitting it to the remote. This is
where I really  miss javascript support.
JAS


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[Freedos-user] TCP/IP TSR's

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Yesterday,  Matej Horvat matej.hor...@guest.arnes.si
said:
 (And while we're at it, let's create a modern standard  
 for TCP/IP TSRs.)

 Who are we ?

  JAS


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[Freedos-user] Internet tools

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On 12-7 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com said:
 Do a ping, whois, traceroute, or nslookup on it.
  They are highly useful tools, and available online 
 as well in addition to being local commands.
  I have a copy of ping, and know whois as a site
 (whois.net), but are the other commands available
 for DOS ?

You need to learn more about the Internet.  
For instance, blocking those 500K or more of ads is trivial.
 How is it possible to block ads in web pages ? Many ads are
 not popups.

PS-I was not able to connect from here to http://ms-dos7.hit.bg
   using DOS and Lynx.


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[Freedos-user] beyond config.sys

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Miguel Garza garz...@gmail.com wrote:

 ...Honestly, seems to be easier to run stuff in a 
 DOS window in XP than booting straight to DOS...

and Dennis McCunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com replied:
 
 It's not really a DOS window.  Run a 16 bit DOS program, 
 and Windows spawns NTVDM to provide an MS-DOS environment, 
 and a copy of COMMAND.COM to run the DOS app in a console window.
 If you shell out of the DOS app in the console, you are in 32 bit
 Windows land, talking to CMD.EXE
 You can set up a preferred DOS environment in the \Windows\System32
 autoexec.nt and config.nt files.  These are read and processed
 whenever a DOS app is run.

 Is all this true also of x86 Windows 7 ?
 Indeed, can Window 7 (or 8) run a pure DOS program, 
 without use of an external emulator ?

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[Freedos-user] Lynx, links, elinks

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 On March 2 Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net 
asked about a DOS port of elinks.
 My question is: What advantage(s) links/elinks 
have over lynx (I ask just about their DOS ports, 
not versions for other OS'es)? 
 I did not yet find any, on the contrary, lynx has
had https/ssl capability for the last 10 years, 
while neither links nor elinks have it yet. 
Also, lynx (2.8.5) can handle file inputs in forms, 
while neither links nor elinks AFAIK can.
 Regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

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Ricardus Vincente wizardofg...@gmail.com said:

 While I understand that FreeDOS is a modern DOS not meant just for
older hardware, I thought that one of the purposes for FreeDOS was to
make older hardware relevant again. From the looks of it, I can't see
any reasonable way to get FreeDOS working on an old machine that has no
OS currently on it.

 How are you going to write the image(s) to a floppy ?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

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Christian Masloch said:

 Don't read Dissecting DOS though.
Why not?


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Re: [Freedos-user] a creative situation?

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Karen Llewelen wrote: 

I use links as well, but on a shell service which is has compiled it  with 
spider monkey to increase the java script friendly nature.

 Not under DOS, it seems.
 Weren't you who did post very similar questions on this 
list in February 2010 ? I would like to know how did you
find the discussion then.

Marcos Favero wrote:

 I can speak as a user.
 I use three DOS text web browsers:
 - Lynx
 - DOSLynx (Fred C. Macall, 2010)
 - Links (2.1pre36)
 They all work fine, but I prefer Links because it is FDAPM-aware.

 Does Links for DOS nowadays support Javascript ?   
 Last time I looked, it did not.

 Regards
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[Freedos-user] Lynx and DHCP issues

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cordat...@aol.com said:

WATTCP will access one and only one config file. 
First it looks at the environment variable WATTCP.CFG 
which represents a directory (not a file name!) 
if this environment variable does not exist it uses 
the current directory. It looks first for the file name 
WATTCP.CFG and if not found for the file name TCP.CFG.

 AFAIK, the environment variable is WATTCP_CFG.
Some programs linked with WATTCP accept only a
path in this variable (e.g., Lynx 2.8.5, FDSMTPOP),  
others accept a filename with path (e.g WGET 1.11.1)
and, in this case, the file may have another name.

It looks like Lynx is using WATT-32 which makes sense 
in retrospect since Lynx is compiled with DJGPP.

Apparently DHCP does not work right in this case.  
I detected that Lynx sends a DHCP request message 
immediately rather than the expected DHCP discover 
message (which if successful is then followed by DHCP 
request).

 I found that, if you use this wattcp.cfg file:

my_ip=DHCP

 Lynx (both 2.8.4 and 2.8.5) fails to configure, but if you 
have no wattcp.cfg, Lynx will try to configure first with 
BOOTP, then with DHCP, then with RARP and succeed if any is 
supported, but it takes about one minute for this. 
 DHCP.EXE from mTCP fails -- times out before getting a reply.
 NTOOL configures in about one second, but gets a nameserver 
value that does not respond to further DNS requests.
 All my tests were done under plain DOS using a dial-up 
connection. 

BTW, how did you detect what messages Lynx sent? neither
-trace nor -wdebug options seem to log protocol IDs.

James Collins said:

I have a question about lynx I went to YouTube.com  
and was going to search for a video and lynx asked me 
to download an application. 
Just wondering if it is safe to download the application? 
And will lynx need software to run, like will a lot of 
sites want me to download applications and software?

Also I wonder are there limitations to lynx running in 
freedos. 
Like I wonder with YouTube how would dos play a video? 
Just curious, I think it is neat to browse with lynx.

 Usually is completely safe, because there aren't many 
applications capable of self-starting under DOS, but 
useless, as the application will most probably not run 
under DOS, too.
 Lynx does not need any additional software to run, but 
it will not execute Javascript, nor Java, nor understand 
XML. Probably, the server in the sites you visited did 
check for a program that supports some format and, not 
finding any, offered one.
 You need video player software that runs under DOS. 
 I cannot help on this, except by telling that there 
is not any .SWF player for DOS.

Best regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] lynx

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On March 14 Jim Collins wrote:

I don't think the wattcp.cfg file is a problem, at least 
judging by the error messages I have been getting (even 
though I did copy wattcp.cfg into the directory where the 
lynxbat.bat file is located)

an error I get often is:
Configuration file /dev/env/DJDIR/lib/lynx.cfg is not available

I have a file in the dir where I have lynxbat.bat that is 
called lynxcfg.cfg, I don't know if this is the file they 
are referring to. I have opened lynxcfg.cfg and read some. 
when I type out lynxcfg.cfg it says a couple of things,

1. it has a comment right at the top and it calls 
the file lynx.cfg
2. it has a comment that says the default location of this file is:
/usr/local/lib/lynx.cfg (unix)
I am running mac os x, which I think is a form of unix. 
I went into a terminal on my host computer but I cant find 
those folders they don't match my host computer.

 Michael Brutman asked an important question:
What version of lynx are you using ? 

 I add these other questions:
1) You say you are using mac os x. This means you are running 
freedos under an emulator ? 

2) Where did you get yur version of lynx ? I would like to
 take a look at it.
 
 I use lynx everyday, but there are quite a few versions 
around, and they are not exact replacements of each other.
I do not use an emulator, but run DOS (DR, Free or MS) as
the operating system.

 AFAIK, lynx looks for a lynx.cfg file in the directory 
the lynx.exe file resides. You can change this by setting
the environment variable lynx_cfg . This file is
not strictly needed, because you may set all options in 
the command line, but there are so many options that it 
will be an awkward command line, to say the least. 

 Regards
  JAS


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Re: [Freedos-user] lynx

[Jose Antonio Senna]

In reply to  my suggestions,  Jim Collins wrote:

 set HOME=.
 set wattcp.cfg=%HOME%

 set wattcp_cfg=.\
 with an underdash, not a dot.

 I edited lynxbat.bat to have the underscore with no luck


 Did you try 
 
 set HOME=.\
 set wattcp_cfg=%HOME%

 I am not sure whether . only shall work,
or whether you must use .\ to mean the 
CWD. And what about using

 set HOME=.\
 set wattcp_cfg=.\

that is more explicit. 
 
 I just tried it right now at the c:\ prompt-
 c:\fdos\lynx lynx
 c:\fdos\temp\: no such directory

 the sign was part of the prompt.

 So your current working directory was c:\fdos\lynx ,
and the wattcp.cfg file was there. So, where the 
reference to c:\fdos\temp\ came from ?

Try the command 

 set

without any parameters. This shall display
all your environment variables, with the
implicit values already explicited.

Regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] lynx

[Jose Antonio Senna]

James Collins said:

I looked at lynxbat.bat and the batch files says:
set HOME=.
set wattcp.cfg=%HOME%
so is the batch file expecting to find wattcp.cfg 
in the current directory?
 It is telling lynx to search for wattcp.cfg in the 
current working directory. Note that (at least for 
the version of lynx I use), it should have been
 set wattcp_cfg=.\
with an underdash, not a dot.

I copied wattcp.cfg to the directory where lynbat.bat 
is, on my computer it is c:\fdos\lynx 
I know wattcp.cfg is on my computer at
c:\fdos\bin, that is where I copied it from
should I edit the batch file to reflect this, 
 The wattcp_cfg variable shall point to whatever 
directory your wattcp.cfg file is in. Note that
the file wattcp.cfg is rewritten at every 
restart of the connection.

the %, confuses me. 
 This is to tell DOS it shall replace the name between 
the % signs with the environment variable so named.

I just tried it right now at the c:\ prompt-
c:\fdos\lynx lynx
c:\fdos\temp\: no such directory
  Did you type the greater than sign between
the first and the second lynx in the second
line above or c:\fdos\lynx was your current
directory and the sign was part of the prompt ?

Best regards
  JAS


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[Freedos-user] CD drivers

[Jose Antonio Senna]

I said
Is XCDROM expected to write ?

Robert Riebisch answered:
No.

 So, another question: Is there any CD-RW driver for DOS ? (That is,
one that reads and writes).  BTW, Is there any such DVD driver ?
Regards
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[Freedos-user] XCDROM

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Is XCDROM expected to write ? I am experimenting with a CD-RW drive 
in my computer and  XCDROM does install correctly and allow reading 
(with shsucdx) but issues an I/O error in writing to device
when cdmake tries to write to a CD-R in the drive.
 My computer has an ISA bus and so, neither UDMA nor ATAPI.
access to CD drive is through port 170-17f (second IDE interface)
  Did anyone ever use xcdrom together with cdmake unde plain DOS ?
Regards
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[Freedos-user] X-comment to Accessing custom ISA cards

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Eric Auer said:

PS: Another nice way to connect custom made hardware is to use the printer 
port. Luckily that stays available longer than the USB lobby wants ;-).

 The USB lobby does not worry about the printer port for they did already 
succeed in discontinuing all peripherals that used to connect to it.

 IMHO a nice thing to have would be an ISA card with USB ports,so one could 
use new peripherals with old motherboards.  Most motherboards are thrown 
away in perfect working condition, just because they are incompatible 
with new peripherals or new software (but still fully compatible with DOS).

 Excuse me for this somewhat off-topic comment, but I would like to know 
if somebody else is of the same opinion.

 Regards
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[Freedos-user] UNRAR

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Ray Davison said:
Can you point me to an unrar utility that will work with DOS or OS\2.  I 
have tried several and gotten nowhere.  I can see the directory but 
cannot read or extract any of it.

 Try this:
ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/unrar343.zip

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[Freedos-user] e-mails from DOS

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Alain M. escreveu:
 What would I use for sending emails (with attachement file)

 I use (including for this message) TCPMAIL, a DOS program
I found at http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jchap/tvde.htm
 Attachments are OK, but you must mime-encode and attach them yourself.
It has no automation at all, not even for creating the header.
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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS dialup

[Jose Antonio Senna]

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, dima wrote:


 Long time I used dosppp and lsppp while had real IP the address.
 Recently ISP has placed the users behind NAT and now users have grey IP
 addresses. The problem since then has begun - dilal-up connection is
 established, ping - is present, but TCP connection can not be established:
 lynx and arachne do not load any web pages.

 Advices are welcome.

 What is NAT ? 
  From what you said only, it seems the problem is in WATTCP.

 Regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS dialup

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Jeremy said:

 (At least this is what I generally see it referring to)
 Network Address Translation, commonly seen in home/small office type 
 broadband router/switches [e.g. Linksys, Dlink, Netgear, Belkin 
 products], it allows multiple (usually private) IP address to masquerade 
 as a single (usually public) IP address by mapping the outgoing/incoming 
 ports to appropriate computer.


 As for the actual problem, I have no idea, been far too many years since 
 I setup dialup, so all I remember is once connected, authentication had 
 to occur to allow general IP traffic.

 Does this mean it is not used in direct dial-up connection (local client
to ISP server), but only to connect through a network (local client to local
server, local server to ISP server) ? If yes, I cannot help,for I never
tried this.
 I use, however, DOSPPP almost daily to connect to my ISP and did configure
a dial-up a few weeks ago. DOSPPP does authenticate with my ISP without any
problem. Arachne,however, did not work for me.
 
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[Freedos-user] EMM386

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 As everybody probably knows by now, EMM386 works with the 386-optimized
freedos kernel. I am currently using it with kwc38616 build of 20 September.
 Stability with Lynx also improved . It seems that in this respect the
classification of EMM386 shall now be useable.
 A problem that appeared with version 2.05 worsened with 2.06:
Arkady's MEM with option /e does not report EMS, but instead
   MEM: error: EMM call 41h
 In addition, version 2.06 crashes FreeDOS. Versions 2.00 to 2.04 did work.
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[Freedos-user] (no subject)

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Eric wrote:

PPS: Acrobat/DOS can do PDF 1.1-almost1.2? Indeed old. But most current
are 1.4 / 1.5? I do not think so. My up-to-1.3 acroread/Linux displays
all files so far. Probably some companies thinking it is new so everybody
must use it to force all others to use it as well, without thinking about
whether 1.4 / 1.5 actually has features which are useful in that context.

  I told what I saw. 
  I think most large companies upgrade their Acrobat from time to time without
any regard whether or not it is really needed, and their personnel does not
care to configure Distiller (if this is possible ) to produce a lower PDF
version output. Indeed, I saw nothing in any PDF 1.5 document I viewed that
could not be present with PDF 1.3 . BTW-Most files I view are electronic
components datasheets/specifications.


 This also happens with other programs. One blatant example are websites-
many require some late version of IE/Netscape wthout any good reason for it.

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Re: [Freedos-user] re: FDISK MBR and FORMAT questions

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Aitor Santamaria wrote:

One book I read (I think Dissecting DOS) was considering the MBR as 
part of the OS itself.

 I think Dissecting DOS it is not. It explains the MBR but says it is 
something independent form the O/S. 

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[Freedos-user] Re: FreeCOM + Win98

[Jose Antonio Senna]

It did appear yesterday on this list:

sure whether Win98's COMMAND.COM can be configured to default to insert 
mode instead of overwrite.

  I do not have the MS-DOS version which comes with Win98, but MS-DOS 5 can
 be so configured by using 
 DOSKEY /INSERT
 or 
 DOSKEY /OVERWRITE
 
BTW, I would like if FreeCOM also had some means to set the default for this.

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[Freedos-user] SHSUCDX and other split-version programs

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Jim Hall wrote:

 Does Jack's version have any extra benefits over Jason's original?
   AFAIK,only smaller executable and resident sizes.

Sounds like there isn't a difference in functionality or bugs between 
Jason's and Jack's SHSUCDX.  That may be the deciding factor here.
  I did not yet find any, too.

If there aren't any opinions either way, I think I'll drop Jack's, and 
keep Jason's on the list.
  Please don't hurry.

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[Freedos-user] HIMEM versus FDXMS

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Eric Auer wrote:

Finally, HIMEM versus FD*XMS*: This is simple, HIMEM is better and
only HIMEM supports EMS/XMS memory pool sharing (as does e.g. MS
HIMEM, it is only that FD*XMS* saves a bit of space by not having
the support).
 Other than support for memory pool sharing, what are the advantages
of HIMEM over FDXMS ?

 So you would ONLY want to use FD*XMS* if you either have a 286 (FDXMS286)
or want to show some radical style by mixing drivers without reason ;-).
 If I use XMS but not EMS, I can save some bytes in UMB (real-mode UMB) by
using FDXMS instead of HIMEM, enough to be able to load high some other driver
or TSR.

And, by the way, it is GOOD that only FDXMS286 supports 286. The overhead /
development work to get some combined driver from 286 to 4 GBytes would
certainly not be worth the effort given the lack of living 286 PCs today. 
 I would add, also to have different drivers for up to 64 MB and more than
64 MB physical RAM. 

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[Freedos-user] ynx,Links... (x-comment Eric Auer message in fd-user list)

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Eric Auer said:
We dropped LYNX when it became outdated. A LINKS port would be nice.

Two questions:
1) Why,exactly,is Lynx outdated (in comparison with other DOS browsers) ?
2) What is LINKS ? 

Thanks for the atention
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[Freedos-user] Flashplayer?

[Jose antonio Senna]

 Does anybody know of a Flash player for DOS ?
 I ask because many websites now have just an .SWF animation as their
 home page and so are impenetrable to DOS browsers.
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[Freedos-user] x-comment to Michael Devore's message of 18 March

[Jose Antonio Senna]

MDGNU-ish type stuff suffers from the we despise everything related to 
MDMicrosoft and Not Invented Here syndromes, and its relationship with DOS 
MDis often uneasy.  That said, DJGPP has never given me a problem when 
MDtesting recent EMM386 versions.

 I never compiled anything using DJGPP,but I found DJGPP compiled applications,
as Lynx, much less stable with EMM386 than without, to the extent I no longer
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[Freedos-user] TEE truncates file

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 I have been using Tee to display and save output of a SMTP/POP client
named TCPMAIL. One example of command line is:
C:\!NET\TCPMAIL.EXE /q /d [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |C:\UTLS\TEE .\MAIL.LST
and noticed that it truncates the file (that is,some lines - perhaps 10 - that
appear last on screen are not saved to file) This does not depend on filename
nor on the tcpmail switches I use.
If I use standard DOS redirection ( or ),it saves OK the output (but then
I get no screen output,of course).
 Did anybody notice a similar problem ?
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[Freedos-user] Tee

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Would anybody provide a link to the FreeDOS tee utility ?
 There is no file by that name in ibiblio.org directory
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[Freedos-user] Other FreeCOM nonconformity

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 I noticed another behavior difference between DRDOS and FreeDOS:
 If,in a batchfile there is the line:
 IF %1==XYZ GOTO LABEL
and no argument is passed in command line when calling the batch file,
Then DRDOS acts as if the comparison failed (that is,does not goto LABEL
with above line,but goto LABEL if the line says IF NOT instead),
while FreeDOS (FreeCOM v0.82 ak pl3 xms_swap) issues a syntax error message
and ignores the line altogether (does not goto LABEL no matter whether the 
line says IF or IF NOT).
  Logically,both are defensible. I prefer DRDOS behavior. Has somenone
tested this under MS-DOS ?
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[Freedos-user] problem with Pictview under FreeDOS

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Michael Devore wrote:
You wouldn't happen to be using SHARE would you?  I found and fixed a bug 
in SHARE having to do with read-only files mid-late 2004.  Earlier SHARE 
 versions than that can fail.

 No,I never used SHARE while testing Pictview.

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[Freedos-user] problem with Pictview under FreeDOS

[Jose Antonio Senna]

I merged in this message  feedback I got from people at fd-user list
about my comment that Pictview does not work under Freedos. 

EAHi Jas, Arkady, the described problem (on freedos-user) sounds like
EAthe findfirst/findnext has the wrong treatment for attribute selection
EAversus disk label problem which got discussed a few months ago. Maybe
EAyou can do some experiments in that direction.

  I do not remember that discussion;do you mean functions 4E/4F of INT 21?
 Pictview does not seem to use them,unless there are wildcards in filename.
 It seems to fail on function 3D,file open, but I could not find why.It tries
to open the data file read-only and fails.It's all I know hitherto

AB Do you try development version of kernel? For example, from Beta9sr1= ?

  I tried a kernel from your branch,dated 5 september 2004.It is what
 I have been usng almost daily.
  
BruceThe problem I had was not FreeDOS related but something was odd about 
BrucePictview not finding the file. I tried relative paths, absolute paths 
Bruceand etc.

 But Pictview works for me under DR-DOS with every (legal) filename and
 path combination I tried,and always fails under FreeDOS.
 
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[Freedos-user] COPY user-unfriendly feature

[Jose Antonio Senna]

Concerning COPY command in FreeCOM (noticed in latest versions;may do so or not
in former versions):
 If one issues copy filename.ext d: and filename.ext does not exist in
current directory but already exists in destination directory, FreeCOM responds
with D:\FILENAME.EXT Already exists.Overwrite? (Yes,No,Quit). 
Selecting y (or any letter except n or q +CR btw),it responds with 
Source file not found and exits,but AFTER deleting d:\filename.ext.
IMO,it should first check source existence,then destination existence,in order
to avoid file loss.
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