Re: Firefox
Bill, Thanks. I'll give it a try. Mel --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Bill Connelly billycarmac...@verizon.net wrote: From: Bill Connelly billycarmac...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Firefox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 8:13 AM On Jan 7, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Mel wrote: I don't see any address bar in TFF. Where is it? - its the open space, below the tabs, that has the Gray Star, Triangle, and Reload symbols at the end ... the URL address window --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
Kris, Thanks for your assistance. I'm using TenFour Fox (TFF) version 9 and am configured as follows: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac3,1 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.2.8f1 I am using Omniweb to play videos with mixed (unsatisfactry) results. I just scraped up enough cash and bought a used 1.8MHz accelerated G4 DA and expect it shortly. So I can continue to live with what I have until that arrives and will save your advice to try later. Alternatively, I might switch to an older version of Firefox rather than continue to use TFF. Mel --- On Sat, 1/7/12, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Subject: Re: Firefox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 7, 2012, 11:00 PM On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Mel wrote: I tried that, setting up the HTML5 trial at YouTube. It doesn't work. Which browser? There's a little war about HTML5 video formats, and some browsers only support some formats. You can test your HTML5 compatibility here: http://html5test.com/ On older PPC Macs I believe the final PPC version of Safari 5.0.6(5533.22.3) currently offers the most HTML5 video compatibility. Firefox TenFourFox only support Ogg Theora WebM and don't support mpeg4 or H.264. That said, I believe YouTube uses WebM for HTML5 so both browsers should work? --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
I don't see any address bar in TFF. Where is it? --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Firefox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 6, 2012, 11:18 PM On 2012/01/06 19:00, Mel so eloquently wrote: How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Type about:config in the address bar, without the quotes, and Enter; then search for flash. I don't remember what the relevant lines are but it's pretty straightforward to enable plugins. I believe the developer documented the process somewhere on the 'net, a google search may return that result. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Jan 7, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Mel wrote: I don't see any address bar in TFF. Where is it? - its the open space, below the tabs, that has the Gray Star, Triangle, and Reload symbols at the end ... the URL address window -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox/TenFourFox
Previously, at 1:00 AM -0600 1/8/12, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On older PPC Macs I believe the final PPC version of Safari 5.0.6(5533.22.3) currently offers the most HTML5 video compatibility. Firefox TenFourFox only support Ogg Theora WebM and don't support mpeg4 or H.264. That said, I believe YouTube uses WebM for HTML5 so both browsers should work? What's best with OSX 10.4.11 ( I have BW with a 600 MHz PowerPC G4 and 1 GB RAM) -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
I think to be more exact it is: about:config then scroll down to tenfourfox.plugins.enabled and click true. It should be on false by default On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:18 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2012/01/06 19:00, Mel so eloquently wrote: How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Type about:config in the address bar, without the quotes, and Enter; then search for flash. I don't remember what the relevant lines are but it's pretty straightforward to enable plugins. I believe the developer documented the process somewhere on the 'net, a google search may return that result. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
I tried that, setting up the HTML5 trial at YouTube. It doesn't work. Maybe I did something wrong. Mel --- On Fri, 1/6/12, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote: From: David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Firefox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 6, 2012, 6:21 PM Give up on playing Flash and use HTML5 instead. You just need to set up the HTML5 trial at YouTube to use that instead of flash to see most of their videos. Flash is on it's way out. On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Mel wrote: How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Mel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Mel wrote: I tried that, setting up the HTML5 trial at YouTube. It doesn't work. Which browser? There's a little war about HTML5 video formats, and some browsers only support some formats. You can test your HTML5 compatibility here: http://html5test.com/ On older PPC Macs I believe the final PPC version of Safari 5.0.6(5533.22.3) currently offers the most HTML5 video compatibility. Firefox TenFourFox only support Ogg Theora WebM and don't support mpeg4 or H.264. That said, I believe YouTube uses WebM for HTML5 so both browsers should work? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
-- Original message -- Subject: Firefox Date:Wednesday, 04. January 2012 From:Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I used FF to download the latest version and it says it won't work on my G4 running OS X 10.5.5 Why is this? Here are the specs on FF 9.0.1 Operating systemsMac OS X 10.7, Mac OS X 10.5 Intel, Mac OS X 10.6 Intel, Mac OS X 10.6, Mac OS X 10.5 Mozilla has moved to Intel-only builds with the release of Firefox 4.0. The latest release of Firefox for a PowerPC-Mac is 3.6.x (currently 3.6.25). You can get it there: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all-older.html Alternatively you can use the modified version of Firefox 4+ by Cameron Kaiser and Floodgap Systems, called: TenFourFox (10.4Fx). The current release is 9.0. You can find it there: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ or there: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/ Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
I mean I have OS X 10.5.8 And FF 9.0.1 does say this Operating systemsMac OS X 10.7, Mac OS X 10.5 Intel, Mac OS X 10.6 Intel, Mac OS X 10.6, Mac OS X 10.5 Notice that Mac OS X 10.5 does NOT say Intel in the second line. If FF went to Intel only why say that 9.0.1 will run on non-Intel machines? On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Firefox Date:Wednesday, 04. January 2012 From:Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I used FF to download the latest version and it says it won't work on my G4 running OS X 10.5.5 Why is this? Here are the specs on FF 9.0.1 Operating systemsMac OS X 10.7, Mac OS X 10.5 Intel, Mac OS X 10.6 Intel, Mac OS X 10.6, Mac OS X 10.5 Mozilla has moved to Intel-only builds with the release of Firefox 4.0. The latest release of Firefox for a PowerPC-Mac is 3.6.x (currently 3.6.25). You can get it there: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all-older.html Alternatively you can use the modified version of Firefox 4+ by Cameron Kaiser and Floodgap Systems, called: TenFourFox (10.4Fx). The current release is 9.0. You can find it there: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ or there: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/ Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: If FF went to Intel only why say that 9.0.1 will run on non-Intel machines? It was an oversight. They meant OS 10.5 is the minimum system requirement, and Intel is also required. I assume this means it won't run on Tiger Intel? If you need Firefox 9 on your PPC Mac you'll need to use TenFourFox instead. I've had repeatable crash problems with v. 9.0, and there isn't a 9.0.1 version of TenFourFox yet, so I'd use 8.0.1 for now, available at the older versions link on the TenFourFox page. If you need Flash, you'll have to enable plugins before Flash will work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Mel --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Subject: Re: Firefox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 6, 2012, 5:23 PM On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: If FF went to Intel only why say that 9.0.1 will run on non-Intel machines? It was an oversight. They meant OS 10.5 is the minimum system requirement, and Intel is also required. I assume this means it won't run on Tiger Intel? If you need Firefox 9 on your PPC Mac you'll need to use TenFourFox instead. I've had repeatable crash problems with v.9.0, and there isn't a 9.0.1 version of TenFourFox yet, so I'd use 8.0.1 for now, available at the older versions link on the TenFourFox page. If you need Flash, you'll have to enable plugins before Flash will work. --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
Give up on playing Flash and use HTML5 instead. You just need to set up the HTML5 trial at YouTube to use that instead of flash to see most of their videos. Flash is on it's way out. On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Mel wrote: How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Mel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2012/01/06 19:00, Mel so eloquently wrote: How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Type about:config in the address bar, without the quotes, and Enter; then search for flash. I don't remember what the relevant lines are but it's pretty straightforward to enable plugins. I believe the developer documented the process somewhere on the 'net, a google search may return that result. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox question
If you haven't had problems with NoScript and ForecastFox in the past, the problem is likely that the AccuWeather.com servers are down now having maintenance done, often the case at this time of night. Otherwise, you should look to NoScript and make sure you've white- listed the AccuWeather.com site that ForecastFox gets its data from. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
Thanks. Thought it was about time to update something as FF's update check didn't come through. Looks like this the last official FF update for PPC Macs from Mozilla. I doubt they'll miss all the tasty dramas. On Sep 10, 5:30 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Firefox 3.6.9 is out. Got notified soon after I updated Safari -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
So, now you need an Intel Mac to use the latest FF. On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks. Thought it was about time to update something as FF's update check didn't come through. Looks like this the last official FF update for PPC Macs from Mozilla. I doubt they'll miss all the tasty dramas. On Sep 10, 5:30 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Firefox 3.6.9 is out. Got notified soon after I updated Safari -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: So, now you need an Intel Mac to use the latest FF. Yes, that's true officially, but you can still get PPC versions here: http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:49 PM -0700 2/17/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: JavaScript was so named simply because Java was the hot buzzword of the day back then. It should really be named WebScript or HTMLScript or something like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript ___ You will note that the OP asked So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? . I was having the same sorts of messages in FireFox until the Java and Java add-ons were dealt with as i described. You can quibble about the difference all you want. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: You will note that the OP asked So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? . I was having the same sorts of messages in FireFox until the Java and Java add-ons were dealt with as i described. You can quibble about the difference all you want. Not a quibble. I'm trying to keep a common misconception from spreading, before it becomes the next 'Zap your PRAM' or 'Repair Permissions' placebo. Java has *nothing whatsoever* to do with JavaScript. There are no Java elements on the Yahoo page in question. Updating Java for a J-script issue makes as much sense as You're having a problem with Photoshop? I'd re-install MS Office. If this process fixed your system, then your errors were either related to an actual Java program, not a JavaScript program or (far more likely) the updating process fixed the actual problem, like a corrupted cache. If there's a problem with Java on a page, the error message will refer to an 'applet' not a script. That 'script is busy or not responding' error message is exclusively a JavaScript error message. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:47 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:49 PM -0700 2/17/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: JavaScript was so named simply because Java was the hot buzzword of the day back then. It should really be named WebScript or HTMLScript or something like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript I daresay the same people who use this name will be the same people who scold you for not using 'kibibytes' or 'gibibytes' to describe disks. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: You will note that the OP asked So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? . I was having the same sorts of messages in FireFox until the Java and Java add-ons were dealt with as i described. You can quibble about the difference all you want. Not a quibble. I'm trying to keep a common misconception from spreading, before it becomes the next 'Zap your PRAM' or 'Repair Permissions' placebo. Java has *nothing whatsoever* to do with JavaScript. There are no Java elements on the Yahoo page in question. Updating Java for a J-script issue makes as much sense as You're having a problem with Photoshop? I'd re-install MS Office. If this process fixed your system, then your errors were either related to an actual Java program, not a JavaScript program or (far more likely) the updating process fixed the actual problem, like a corrupted cache. If there's a problem with Java on a page, the error message will refer to an 'applet' not a script. That 'script is busy or not responding' error message is exclusively a JavaScript error message. _ Then why do the tags that AdBlock plus attaches to ads bring up a menu which includes a Java item? And why do the ads go away when you drop the URL into the AdBlock filter panel? And I think the updating process was not as important as eliminating multiple installs. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
At 8:17 PM + 2/18/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Then why do the tags that AdBlock plus attaches to ads bring up a menu which includes a Java item? Because AdBlock is lame? Seriously - that Yahoo page contains NO Java at all. It has lots of JavaScript, but NO Java. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:14 PM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: REALLY?!?!? Running some, ahem, tool to scan the Windows registry will fix a Mac OS X system problem??? Apparently Microsoft Apple have been copying from each other to a much greater extent than I realized! ;-) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:14 PM, John Musbach wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links to bleep malware here. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2/18/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:14 PM, John Musbach wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links to bleep malware here. Huh? What makes you think that's malwae? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2/18/10, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/10 5:59 PM, John Musbach wrote: (tinyurlhttp://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links tobleep malware here. Huh? What makes you think that's malwae? Can you show that it's not. We have a rather decent community here, as you know, John. Well excuse me, I wouldn't recommend software if I knew it was malware. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
Title: Re: Firefox At 6:36 AM -0600 2/17/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Not sure. That yahoo page loads fast for me. The _javascript_s on it don't seem very complicated. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Getting a little intimate are we? g -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page __ Check your JAVA installation. Is there more than one FF add-on for it? That happened to me. Java updates for some reason do not seem to delete older versions. Both add-ons for FF or any other Java items on your drive. And make sure your script blocker is accessing filter subscriptions or you need to add URLs to be blocked by hand. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.comwrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page __ Check your JAVA installation. Is there more than one FF add-on for it? That happened to me. What do you mean? I update Java when prompted to, otherwise I leave it alone Java updates for some reason do not seem to delete older versions. Both add-ons for FF or any other Java items on your drive. Where do I check to see if I have older ones? And make sure your script blocker is accessing filter subscriptions or you need to add URLs to be blocked by hand. I have NoScript 1.9.9.47 Their default Whitelist does include yahoo.com and yahooapis.com -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Feb 17, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Check your JAVA installation. Is there more than one FF add-on for it? That happened to me. Java updates for some reason do not seem to delete older versions. Both add-ons for FF or any other Java items on your drive. JavaScript and Java share nothing but a name, they're otherwise unrelated; there is no Java content on that page. JavaScript was so named simply because Java was the hot buzzword of the day back then. It should really be named WebScript or HTMLScript or something like that. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.comwrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page __ Check your JAVA installation. Is there more than one FF add-on for it? That happened to me. What do you mean? I update Java when prompted to, otherwise I leave it alone Well, is there more than one version installed? Java updates for some reason do not seem to delete older versions. Both add-ons for FF or any other Java items on your drive. Where do I check to see if I have older ones? Search for all Java files on your drive. then search to see the Java add-on in your FireFox install in the add-on list. Also know that sometimes (AKA;OFTEN) FireFox updates mean you must re-install ad-ons. And make sure your script blocker is accessing filter subscriptions or you need to add URLs to be blocked by hand. I have NoScript 1.9.9.47 Their default Whitelist does include yahoo.com and yahooapis.com You need to block the sites from which the ads are sent. not Yahoo overall. Does thei site include all the ads you may encounter? AdBlock plus and it's feeder subscription lists are pretty big. You have to add-on the subscription lists separately. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
At 3:49 PM -0700 2/17/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: JavaScript was so named simply because Java was the hot buzzword of the day back then. It should really be named WebScript or HTMLScript or something like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
At 1:40 AM -0600 12/21/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote: Does anyone else notice that if you have Firefox automatically check for Add-on updates that it makes it unresponsive whenever it finds any? I finally turned this feature off and hope this helps. It just did it to me. 3.6b5. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On 09-09-26 05:05 PM, Dan wrote: Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or better. Thanks, Dan. That was the problem. I'm not running Leopard. I wish I could find a version for Tiger. From what I've learnt, Minefield seems quite fast. When I reinstalled Namoroka, it opened and closes, just as it did immediately after installing the update to it, I think, on Friday night. But with you suggestion on completely uninstaling FF, I may be able to get it up again. Though I'd prefer a Tiger version of Minefield. I've run it before on my Pismo, I just can't find it now. I know because I thought the name was interesting. Regards! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
At 11:21 AM -0600 9/27/2009, nestamicky wrote: On 09-09-26 05:05 PM, Dan wrote: Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or better. Thanks, Dan. That was the problem. I'm not running Leopard. I wish I could find a version for Tiger. From what I've learnt, Minefield seems quite fast. No such thing as an up-to-date Minefield that runs on Tiger. It cannot exist. Minefield now requires the newer compilers and SDK, that produce code for Leopard SL only. If you go back in time, on Furby's list, to 9/15, the Minefield build will run on Tiger. But running such an old Minefield build kindof defeats the purpose. Better to use the Namoroka builds. When I reinstalled Namoroka, it opened and closes, just as it did immediately after installing the update to it, I think, on Friday night. But with you suggestion on completely uninstaling FF, I may be able to get it up again. You sure you have the right build? Firefox, with no prefs, is a double-launch. The first creates the default profile and its prefs then it relaunches itself. Are you saying that the secondary launch never occured? Do you have any sort of crash log from this? Have you tried removing any/all inputmanagers and such before launching? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
At 8:47 AM -0600 9/26/2009, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/22/09 7:40 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds. I think I will go back to the RPM builds if I can find Minefield for G4. RPM's are only *release* builds. On Furby's page, you will see there are 3.6 and 3.7 builds. Version 3.6 is Namoroka - the next thing to be released. 3.7 is Minefield, the developer trunk. Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or better. The Furbism builds refuse to work for me. One version worked for a short while, and I updated it last night. But when restarted it crashed, repeatedly. I uninstalled it, reinstalled the older un updated version, and that one kept crashing as well. Is there a Minefield for G4? refuse to work is a bit too generic to help diagnose the problem. How can I completely uninstall FF from my machine now? I fear some files are laid back that may corrupt future installs. Drag the app to the trash. Drag the Mozilla and Firefox folders from ~/Library to the trash. eg: ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On 9/22/09 7:40 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Here are the links for todays builds G3 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/G3/FXG3-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg G4 7400 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7400/FX7400-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg G4 7450 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7450/FX7450-3.7a1pre-2009.09.22.dmg HTH, Len Thanks a lot for these. I really appreciate this. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On 9/21/09 8:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...? http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ Thanks Kris, but I found it later and found out that it does not support PPC. Or, did I find the wrong version? Does it support PPC? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/21/09 8:05 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...? http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ Thanks Kris, but I found it later and found out that it does not support PPC. Or, did I find the wrong version? Does it support PPC? That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds. Here are the links for todays builds G3 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/G3/FXG3-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg G4 7400 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7400/FX7400-3.6b1pre-2009.09.22.dmg G4 7450 http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/builds/7450/FX7450-3.7a1pre-2009.09.22.dmg HTH, Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
Dan, I went hunting but still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:41 PM -0500 9/16/2009, Charles Lenington wrote: Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today? I did it 9/15. Ran the stock FF for a bit then switched to rpm's optimized build. Then went back to Minefield. I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons didn't work either. So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and shutdown, wait a couple minutes then restart. Change computer/user password. reboot replug cat 5. Very strange. You have any odd plug-ins or inputmanagers? Well even more stranger. Firefox came up with a update notice for 3.5.3 (from 3.5.2 although I was already at 3.5.3). ran install everything looks ok so far. Must of been a build change - I didn't notice the build number. Maybe a corrupted update. Hate it when that happens. Had it happen all too often; I really hate auto-updating apps. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- Either reading this group or engaged in an experiment in thinking through the possibilities of world peace...Nesta. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Nesta Nesta wrote: still can't find the Minefield build. Any ideas...? http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On 9/17/09 8:44 PM, Dan wrote: Minefield is the main Mozilla development trunk, currently that which might become Firefox 3.7. Thanks Dan, is my response less frustrating now...with text size? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
At 7:17 AM -0600 9/18/2009, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/17/09 8:44 PM, Dan wrote: Minefield is the main Mozilla development trunk, currently that which might become Firefox 3.7. Thanks Dan, is my response less frustrating now...with text size? This reply is plain text. :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
At 12:41 PM -0500 9/16/2009, Charles Lenington wrote: Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today? I did it 9/15. Ran the stock FF for a bit then switched to rpm's optimized build. Then went back to Minefield. I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons didn't work either. So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and shutdown, wait a couple minutes then restart. Change computer/user password. reboot replug cat 5. Very strange. You have any odd plug-ins or inputmanagers? Well even more stranger. Firefox came up with a update notice for 3.5.3 (from 3.5.2 although I was already at 3.5.3). ran install everything looks ok so far. Must of been a build change - I didn't notice the build number. Maybe a corrupted update. Hate it when that happens. Had it happen all too often; I really hate auto-updating apps. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
At 11:54 AM -0700 9/16/2009, Roger Kulp wrote: I updated Safari yesterday,and it lost all my saved logins. Logins are either coming from keychain or cookies. Check your keychain - Use run the first aid repair from Keychain Access.app. Cookies... if they're corrupted, then clear 'em all and start over. ...In the future please start a new thread instead of hijacking the subject. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
On 9/17/09 10:38 AM, Dan wrote: Then went back to Minefield. Can I interest Dan to say why he's opted for Minefield and not on the update bandwagon that's Mozilla. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
No,but I updated Safari yesterday,and it lost all my saved logins. :( Roger --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net wrote: From: Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net Subject: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:41 AM Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today? (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3) I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons didn't work either. So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and shutdown, wait a couple minutes then restart. Change computer/user password. reboot replug cat 5. Hummm since I was online at bank when this started --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
Charles Lenington wrote: Anyone do the firefox/(and maybe t-bird) updates today? (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3) I lost control of Apple menu bar in FF/T-bird. If I clicked on item and moved cursor down the menu closed. Clicking the 3 colored window buttons didn't work either. So far the fix is to pull cat 5 and shutdown, wait a couple minutes then restart. Change computer/user password. reboot replug cat 5. Hummm since I was online at bank when this started Well even more stranger. Firefox came up with a update notice for 3.5.3 (from 3.5.2 although I was already at 3.5.3). ran install everything looks ok so far. Must of been a build change - I didn't notice the build number. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5x on PPC
From the list owner: On Aug 31, 11:40 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:59 AM -0700 8/31/2009, John Niven wrote: Please remember to bottom post and trim on these LEM Lists. Bottom posting is a suggestion. It is our preference. However, we long ago realized that there is no practical way to run a popular list and enforce it. However, we do encourage trimming whatever you're replying to. Some people are still on dial-up (about 1 inf 4 worldwide), so it's just courtesy to do that. Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5x on PPC
Hey! I'm trying iCab 4.6.1 on my G5 Xserve and it seems stonkingly fast! I'll have to play with it some more. I haven't used iCab since trying it on my Quadra 950 (33MHz, 68040). Maybe that explains it :-) John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5x on PPC
At 11:23 AM -0700 9/2/2009, John Niven wrote: iCab 4.6.1 on my G5 Xserve and it seems stonkingly fast! iCab is now WebKit based. :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5x on PPC
Is Firefox having problems resolving domain names? Sometimes In Terminal, please issue the following commands then copy the whole results and paste 'em into a reply here: Dan, Here is the information you requested: Last login: Mon Aug 31 05:48:14 on console Welcome to Darwin! Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ lookupd -flushcache Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ lookupd -flushcache Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ dig www.google.com ; DiG 9.3.6-APPLE-P2 www.google.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18623 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.google.com.IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.google.com. 603604 IN CNAME www.l.google.com. www.l.google.com. 236 IN A 64.233.169.103 www.l.google.com. 236 IN A 64.233.169.99 www.l.google.com. 236 IN A 64.233.169.147 www.l.google.com. 236 IN A 64.233.169.104 ;; Query time: 21 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 1 15:26:58 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 116 Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ dig @208.67.220.220 www.google.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5x on PPC
At 3:28 PM -0400 9/1/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Larry-Edens-Computer-2:~ larryeden$ dig @208.67.220.220 www.google.com You need to hit return after that last line, as you didn't include the return when you copied. Please do the whole three commands again. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5x on PPC
At 7:59 AM -0700 8/31/2009, John Niven wrote: Please remember to bottom post and trim on these LEM Lists. On Sun, 8/30/09, Dan wrote: Try an optimized build of Firefox. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html This only mentions G3's and G4's. Is there one for G5's? I tend to recommend RPM's builds because they're just release vers, and more reliable than others. Furby has G3, G4, G5, and x86 builds, but you'll have to be more careful as to what you grab. The release builds are in there if you look carefully! Mostly it's nightly builds of the various branches - Shiretoko (3.5.x), Namoroka (3.6/7), and Minefield (the bleeding edge main development trunk, 3.7). http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/ My current fav is Minefield. It seems quite stable, although still slower than Safari 4 and WebKit Nightly, but much faster than the 3.5/6 forks. Oh... Furby recently added the necessaries to make the update mechanism work. So you don't have to keep returning to the site to get 'em... Enjoy! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5.2
On Wednesday, 12th of August 2009, Richard Gerome wrote: I experienced slowness when I had comcast with all the free virus protection that it was running and when I deleted it there was a great improvement!!! Maybe this could be your problem??? Besides Apples do not need virus protection!!! CoolKat Summary of the Month of Apple Bugs, dated back to 2nd February 2007: http://www.h-online.com/security/features/84692 It's always good to look more closely. Apple sure has the advantage of not being the prime target. I know, this report is old when speaking in computer terms, but there are always vulnerabilities and security holes. Virus Protection is not essential, but maybe a good thing. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5.2
At 1:47 PM +0200 8/12/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote: Summary of the Month of Apple Bugs, dated back to 2nd February 2007: http://www.h-online.com/security/features/84692 It's always good to look more closely. Apple sure has the advantage of not being the prime target. I know, this report is old when speaking in computer terms, but there are always vulnerabilities and security holes. Virus Protection is not essential, but maybe a good thing. This is a warm-fuzzy fix that means little to the end-user. The problem is that there are no real exploits in the wild, that take advantage of those security holes, that can be caught by those so-called anti-virus softwares. It's kindof like washing your hands 10,000x per day just because someone told you there's ebola on the other side of the planet. The water and anti-biotic companies greatly appreciate your contributions to their profits, and you've done little to improve your health. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5.2
On Wednesday, 12th of August 2009, Dan wrote: At 1:47 PM +0200 8/12/2009, Mac User #330250 wrote: Summary of the Month of Apple Bugs, dated back to 2nd February 2007: http://www.h-online.com/security/features/84692 It's always good to look more closely. Apple sure has the advantage of not being the prime target. I know, this report is old when speaking in computer terms, but there are always vulnerabilities and security holes. Virus Protection is not essential, but maybe a good thing. This is a warm-fuzzy fix that means little to the end-user. The problem is that there are no real exploits in the wild, that take advantage of those security holes, that can be caught by those so-called anti-virus softwares. It's kindof like washing your hands 10,000x per day just because someone told you there's ebola on the other side of the planet. The water and anti-biotic companies greatly appreciate your contributions to their profits, and you've done little to improve your health. - Dan. Yes, I didn't want to create panic. Mac OS X is definitely not a high risk system, comparing to the numbers to Windows viruses in the wild there are no real threats to a Mac. The Washington Post once reported of a Linux and Mac OS X botnet. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/21/AR2006032100279.html http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/03/when_macs_attack.html But on the other hand, this might be FOD (Fear, uncertainty and doubt): http://macdistractions.newsvine.com/_news/2006/03/22/142110-more-os-x-fud-or-a-hint-of-more-security-troubles-for-apple Well, Mac OS X is safe, I don't use a virus scanner either. A virus scanner itself might be the security risk, if it is buggy. I don't even use a virus scanner in Windows; the build-in firewall is sufficient for me. If you are careful when you are connected to the internet, then there is no need at all. Just keep your programs updated. Zero-day-exploits are a pain in the a**. I wanted to point out that there are no real safe systems. There are always leaks and the manufacturers of the software have to make sure that detected leaks get fixed as fast and as safe as possible. Apple realy has the advantage of using a real Unix system as its base, and we all know that in theory Unix is one of the safest concepts of how an operating system should be. And looking at possible hazzards is always a good thing. Don't be so insolent to think it could never happen to you. I hope that didn't offend anyone. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5.2
At 6:52 PM -0400 8/11/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote: FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house. One of the Macs is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5. For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine. Clear the caches. Make sure you don't have some add-on or plug-in that's running away. Perhaps try an optimized build. I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to the cable modem. Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand any ideas about how to solve the problem? Look into DNS delays and other service errors. Comcast's name servers are notoriously overloaded and they're routing has been having a lot of problems. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5.2
Go to Safari 4 it is blazing fast. On 8/11/09, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house. One of the Macs is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5. For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine. I tried FF on a friend's PC and it ran perfectly. Furthermore, I asked a friend of mine on an Intel Mac to try FF, and he reported no slowness. I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to the cable modem. Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand any ideas about how to solve the problem? Thanks Larry Eden -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5.2
Hey Larry, I experienced slowness when I had comcast with all the free virus protection that it was running and when I deleted it there was a great improvement!!! Maybe this could be your problem??? Besides Apples do not need virus protection!!! CoolKat -Original Message- From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net Sent: Aug 11, 2009 6:52 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Firefox 3.5.2 FF 2.5.2 is very slow on all the Macs in my house. One of the Macs is an Intel, the others are G4 or G5. For the time being, I have reverted to FF 3.0+ and it works fine. I tried FF on a friend's PC and it ran perfectly. Furthermore, I asked a friend of mine on an Intel Mac to try FF, and he reported no slowness. I am using Comcast as my ISP and I have a NetGear router connected to the cable modem. Any ideas about the cause of the slownessand any ideas about how to solve the problem? Thanks Larry Eden --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
Hey Dan, Thanks for the suggestions. I solved the problem by trashing 3.5 and returning to 3.0.11. I am going to wait for the boys at Mozilla to take care of business. When they do, I will return to 3.5. I do recall the various discussions about optimized builds, put this is the first time that FF has ever made me think I need to further investigate I am on a BW. Upgraded to 500mhz G4. 896MB RAM and OS 10.4.11 Can you suggest a build worth trying? Larry At 6:55 AM -0400 7/17/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Firefox 3.5 on my G4. OS? memory? HD space free? This version of the browser is so slow Use one of RPM's optimized Firefox builds. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html We've had a number of discussions about using the fast fast fast optimized builds on these LEM Lists. If you search a bit you'll find them. Also, there are features in the new browsers (Firefox and Safari) that check each and every url against a list of known evil sites. This is being done in a feeble (but great PR!) move to protect Windoze users from malware. Turning off those features often speeds browsing up considerably. I believe the settings are in Preferences, probably in the Security pane. Another thing that can greatly speed up browsing is to limit the number of add-ons you've installed. And be sure to install an ad and flash blocker. that I thought there was something wrong with my ISP. FF takes a very long time to load pages. Issue these commands in Terminal and paste the complete results into your reply here: dig www.speakeasy.net traceroute www.speakeasy.net Then run this speed test and tell us the results: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Hey Dan, Thanks for the suggestions. I solved the problem by trashing 3.5 and returning to 3.0.11. I am going to wait for the boys at Mozilla to take care of business. When they do, I will return to 3.5. I do recall the various discussions about optimized builds, put this is the first time that FF has ever made me think I need to further investigate I am on a BW. Upgraded to 500mhz G4. 896MB RAM and OS 10.4.11 Can you suggest a build worth trying? Larry http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/builds/firefox/ Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
On 17/07/2009, at 10:55 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Are any of you having a similar experience with FF 3.5 and what are you doing about the problems? Yes, I have had similar problems on my G3. Pages take ages to load, and everything is sluggish. My solution was to download Opera 10 Beta 2 :) Everything sped along from then on. I love Opera, it has been the best browser I have used on my iMac, and I would not use anything else. Hopefully, if you try use Opera, everything will speed up. Even Safari is faster than Firefox. Opera 10 Beta 2: www.opera.com/browser/next Thanks, Po-en Tsai -- iMac G3 Indigo 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS 9.2.2, 80gb HDD with 768MB ram. Quite speedy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
Lawrence David Eden wrote: I recently downloaded and installed Firefox 3.5 on my G4. This version of the browser is so slow that I thought there was something wrong with my ISP. FF takes a very long time to load pages. What is worse, is its inability to find the server for the various sites that I try to visit. I am writing to you all about this in hopes that I have missed something that addresses the issues I described. Are any of you having a similar experience with FF 3.5 and what are you doing about the problems? Larry Works ok for me. Seems a little quicker than 3 but it takes forever to load the application in the first place. It's like Adobe got involved. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.netwrote: I recently downloaded and installed Firefox 3.5 on my G4. This version of the browser is so slow that I thought there was something wrong with my ISP. FF takes a very long time to load pages. What is worse, is its inability to find the server for the various sites that I try to visit. I am writing to you all about this in hopes that I have missed something that addresses the issues I described. Are any of you having a similar experience with FF 3.5 and what are you doing about the problems? __ The same on the PC side. The worst FF ever. Very sad as it has been great in the past. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
At 6:55 AM -0400 7/17/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Firefox 3.5 on my G4. OS? memory? HD space free? This version of the browser is so slow Use one of RPM's optimized Firefox builds. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html We've had a number of discussions about using the fast fast fast optimized builds on these LEM Lists. If you search a bit you'll find them. Also, there are features in the new browsers (Firefox and Safari) that check each and every url against a list of known evil sites. This is being done in a feeble (but great PR!) move to protect Windoze users from malware. Turning off those features often speeds browsing up considerably. I believe the settings are in Preferences, probably in the Security pane. Another thing that can greatly speed up browsing is to limit the number of add-ons you've installed. And be sure to install an ad and flash blocker. that I thought there was something wrong with my ISP. FF takes a very long time to load pages. Issue these commands in Terminal and paste the complete results into your reply here: dig www.speakeasy.net traceroute www.speakeasy.net Then run this speed test and tell us the results: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
Would clearing the caches filled from using earlier than FF 3.5 versions, give a better perspective of seeing how 3.5 is behaving relative to the earlier versions? Which ones? need to use OnyX? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
On Jul 17, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Are any of you having a similar experience with FF 3.5 and what are you doing about the problems? Firefox 3.5.1 was released yesterday, and says it fixed the slowness problems. You might update and see if that helps? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
At 1:14 PM -0400 7/17/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: Would clearing the caches filled from using earlier than FF 3.5 versions, give a better perspective of seeing how 3.5 is behaving relative to the earlier versions? Maybe. Which ones? need to use OnyX? Just toss everything in ~/Library/Caches/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.5
At 12:22 PM -0500 7/17/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 17, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Are any of you having a similar experience with FF 3.5 and what are you doing about the problems? Firefox 3.5.1 was released yesterday, and says it fixed the slowness problems. You might update and see if that helps? Feels the same speed as FF 3.5 (release build) to me. YMMV. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox security - NoScript vs AdBlock
On May 4, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Dan wrote: Ahh. Plug-In Wars! An interesting read: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/mozilla-ponders-policy-change-after-firefox-extension-battle.ars Firefox's extension system is really just an officially supported mechanism for monkey-patching the browser. Extensions are not isolated or sandboxed. They are broadly permitted to manipulate the browser's behavior and user interface at will and can easily tamper with the functionality of other extensions. Oh, no security holes THERE! Nosirree! What this DOES do, and sensibly, is start pushing some of these things into the browser code itself. Unfortunately a web browser that natively blocks advertising is going to cause a total sh*tstorm from the people who make their money from web advertising. Of course, this is just also the same kind of behavior Windows malware's been doing for a long, long time. A lot of malware code is expended on battling it out with other malware code on the computer, and preventing other malware from taking over. After all, the surest sign a computer is vulnerable is if you can tell if it's already compromised. Speaking of security, there was a VERY interesting study conducted by UCSD earlier this year...they actually hijacked a live botnet for 10 days and recorded everything it did... The PDF makes for interesting reading, especially the background section, for those of you unfamiliar with how these things work. Note: whenever they speak of a malicious web site or program installing something, that activity would be causing permissions requests to be popping up on a Mac. http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~seclab/projects/torpig/index.html -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox security - NoScript vs AdBlock
Title: Re: Firefox security - NoScript vs AdBlock At 1:30 PM -0700 5/4/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: Unfortunately a web browser that natively blocks advertising is going to cause a total sh*tstorm from the people who make their money from web advertising. I find my browsing habits are directed by ad: If the page has animations or flash - I leave it quickly and rarely return to the site. If the page has a few tasteful static ads, I'll leave it by clicking on one. If I like the content of the page, I'll cmd-click on a bunch of the static ads. Speaking of security, Another interesting read: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_kryptos there was a VERY interesting study conducted by UCSD earlier this year...they actually hijacked a live botnet for 10 days and recorded everything it did... The PDF makes for interesting reading, especially the background section, for those of you unfamiliar with how these things work. Note: whenever they speak of a malicious web site or program installing something, that activity would be causing permissions requests to be popping up on a Mac. http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~seclab/projects/torpig/index.html That's the one that used a windoze rootkit. I just hit an article about that a few mins ago. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=3310 - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
I think you'll find that Firefox (and perhaps most browsers) simply choke on bookmark lists that big. Probably best to do some serious weeding. Think hundreds, not thousands. An app such as BookDog or URL Manager Pro might be helpful. Try moving your massive bookmark file aside, then launching Firefox. If that fixes the problem then you'll know it's the your bookmarks. - Dan. Thanks Dan, I tried using Spotlight to find where bookmarks sit (so I could copy and temporarily delete them as per your experiment), I found saejzxbg.default and a group of .json files, but these seem to be only backups of the actual data, where resides the motherlode? The latest .json was 2.2 mb - doesn't seem that large to me, any idea how many bookmarks this represents? I like the feature of Bookdog to search out dead URL's, might just save up my pennies for their $20 fee. Know of any freeware that could do this? With the research my wife and I do in a dozen subjects - thousands of bookmarks is not surprising at all - what's surprising to me is that an app for research (like Firefox) can't seem to handle it. thanks, Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
At 7:24 AM -0700 3/31/2009, MnDel wrote: I think you'll find that Firefox (and perhaps most browsers) simply choke on bookmark lists that big. Probably best to do some serious weeding. Think hundreds, not thousands. An app such as BookDog or URL Manager Pro might be helpful. Try moving your massive bookmark file aside, then launching Firefox. If that fixes the problem then you'll know it's the your bookmarks. I tried using Spotlight Much easier to drill down manually. ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/ Then open the appropriate profile directory (I hate those random names they use), and look therein for bookmarks.html I like the feature of Bookdog to search out dead URL's, might just save up my pennies for their $20 fee. Know of any freeware that could do this? Doesn't BookDog have a trial period? Use it fix the problem, then go back to managing things in Firefox. With the research my wife and I do in a dozen subjects - thousands of bookmarks is not surprising at all - what's surprising to me is that an app for research (like Firefox) can't seem to handle it. It could also be that there's a corruption within the bookmark file. OTOH, how many of those bookmarks are actually valid currently? URLs get stale fast these days. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
On Mar 31, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Dan wrote: With the research my wife and I do in a dozen subjects - thousands of bookmarks is not surprising at all - what's surprising to me is that an app for research (like Firefox) can't seem to handle it. It could also be that there's a corruption within the bookmark file. OTOH, how many of those bookmarks are actually valid currently? URLs get stale fast these days. Speaking of which, before I go off and reinvent the wheel for the 4,678th time, does anyone know of a (preferably) free app or Safari plugin to check bookmarks? I'd settle for just culling the ones that return a 404 or host not found. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders? Thousands, all in folders, I don't know where one would get a total number One other thing that slows it way down is all the little bookmark icons, whatever they are called. Loading those slows it down too, maybe there is a corrupted one? Called Favicons I believe, but no idea how to tell of a corrupted one, or how to prevent them loading. On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and settings and create a new profile. This often solves problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies to Mac Firefox. Hope this helps, Stephen Thanks, guess I'll hold off on that unless a mac guru says it's a good idea Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
At 3:35 AM -0700 3/30/2009, MnDel wrote: How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders? Thousands, all in folders, I don't know where one would get a total number I think you'll find that Firefox (and perhaps most browsers) simply choke on bookmark lists that big. Probably best to do some serious weeding. Think hundreds, not thousands. An app such as BookDog or URL Manager Pro might be helpful. On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and settings and create a new profile. This often solves problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies to Mac Firefox. Hope this helps, Stephen Thanks, guess I'll hold off on that unless a mac guru says it's a good idea Try moving your massive bookmark file aside, then launching Firefox. If that fixes the problem then you'll know it's the your bookmarks. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
Dan wrote: For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . What vers of Firefox? What add-ons? Have you tried clearing its cache? version 3.0.8 Adblock Plus 1.0.1 I hadn't been clearing cache, so I found a place under prefs/privacy to get cache cleared after every shut down. Secondly, it typically takes 30 to 90 seconds for the 'pinwheel to stop' whenever I simply add an empty folder to bookmarks - that makes me think it is not related to cache or add-ons. Does this tidbit change the prognosis? Next time Firefox freezes will examine Console to see if I can translate something, but it's not a language I understand. thanks, Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
MnDel wrote: Dan wrote: For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . What vers of Firefox? What add-ons? Have you tried clearing its cache? version 3.0.8 Adblock Plus 1.0.1 I hadn't been clearing cache, so I found a place under prefs/privacy to get cache cleared after every shut down. Secondly, it typically takes 30 to 90 seconds for the 'pinwheel to stop' whenever I simply add an empty folder to bookmarks - that makes me think it is not related to cache or add-ons. Does this tidbit change the prognosis? Next time Firefox freezes will examine Console to see if I can translate something, but it's not a language I understand. thanks, Del How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders? I just switched over from Safari 3.2.1 to Firefox 3.0.7 because Safari would continually crash. I'm pretty lazy about my thousands of bookmarks, and I notice Firefox is far slower to open them. One other thing that slows it way down is all the little bookmark icons, whatever they are called. Loading those slows it down too, maybe there is a corrupted one? On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and settings and create a new profile. This often solves problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies to Mac Firefox. Hope this helps, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
At 5:59 AM -0500 3/28/2009, D Stubbs wrote: 10.4.11 Sawtooth 500 1.25 G Ram For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . What vers of Firefox? What add-ons? Have you tried clearing its cache? I allow it to do its normal automatic updates. Ok, maybe. If the Moz team never puts out a bad update. It makes me think of old OS9 days and needing to add memory to it, but I presume those days are over in OS10.4? yes. Ideas where the problem lies? Probably Flash or the add-ons locking up. Could be something on a specific web site. This is a freeze - no actual crash? Is there anything thrown into console.log about it? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:59 AM, D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com wrote: For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . I allow it to do its normal automatic updates. It makes me think of old OS9 days and needing to add memory to it, but I presume those days are over in OS10.4? Ideas where the problem lies? thanks, Del 10.4.11 Sawtooth 500 1.25 G Ram ___ Do you have the caches set to dump regularly? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
On Mar 28, 4:59 am, D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com wrote: For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . I allow it to do its normal automatic updates. It makes me think of old OS9 days and needing to add memory to it, but I presume those days are over in OS10.4? Ideas where the problem lies? thanks, Del 10.4.11 Sawtooth 500 1.25 G Ram Firefox has always had memory leaks. Mozilla has finally decided to fix it: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/firefox-looking-lose-flab-and-flaw V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
Thank you for this post - I have a iMac G3 that keeps freeze several times using Netscape 7.02 in OS 9 - I have set the memory to several values, both real big and as requested, but she still freexes! Is their any better browser what will run under OS 9??? Some times I get reason #2 for the freeze. --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Vic vma...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vic vma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Firefox memory? To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 6:07 PM On Mar 28, 4:59 am, D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com wrote: For a few months now Firefox will freeze after about 5 or 10 tabs are up ( it's not consistent) . I allow it to do its normal automatic updates. It makes me think of old OS9 days and needing to add memory to it, but I presume those days are over in OS10.4? Ideas where the problem lies? thanks, Del 10.4.11 Sawtooth 500 1.25 G Ram Firefox has always had memory leaks. Mozilla has finally decided to fix it: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/firefox-looking-lose-flab-and-flaw V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Is their any better browser what will run under OS 9??? WaMCom Mozilla was the final, most modern browser for OS 9, and it was discontinued after July 23, 2003. There was some development for iCab since then, but iCab costs $25 for a full version (iCab Pro), although a restricted trial version is free. Here's a link for the final WaMCom Mozilla: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/20136 Some times I get reason #2 for the freeze. OS 9 is a system that freezes regularly, that's why it was necessary to transition to OS X. The best thing to do is either install OS X on the old Mac using XPostFacto; or retire the old Mac and get an OS X Mac. OS X is the cure for regular system freezes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox
Sorry about that. OS is 10.3.9; Firefox version 2.0.0.20. I think this version of Firefox is the maximum version for Mac OS 10.3.9. If I can get 10.4 for under $70.00 I'll upgrade the OS running in this machine! Pete. --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Firefox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:43 AM At 7:50 AM -0800 3/1/2009, PETE wrote: Firefox. Version? OS? Always include configuration details, please! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
The issue is not watching the beebs, it's getting their video. And I think if one is able to grab their video as easily as could be done from Youtube, the standard for making it hard to do so would have been sorted out. What amazes me is that no one, at least here, seem to know how to do it. So should we put a price on it...or extend it to PCs as well? Robert MacLeay wrote: On Feb 11, 1:09 pm, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: What about using the video screen capture aspect of applications like Snap X Pro ? Steve R I have successfully used IShowU to watch the beeb (and the clever 2- part Apple ads on the NY Times site ) and save as a QuickTime movie. The tricky part is trying to match frame rates. There will be some unavoidable decompression/re-compression quality loss as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
Stephen Conrad wrote:
OK, got a few issues here.
BW G3, OS X 10.2.9, 1G RAM
Firefox 2.0.0.20
First off, it was running fine the other day.
Then I got notice that 3 of my Add-ons had updates.
Not a problem, I wasn't busy so I updated them. This has never been a
problem and the other day some of my other Add-ons were updated.
Now we get to the problem.
Since the update and rebooting of FF its been a PITA for me.
The Issues
===
It doesn't seem to like too many tabs open (never a problem before)
Some sites are damn slow to load (if they load at all).
Example: Tagged (www.tagged.com) doesn't seem to want to load
whereas it always worked fine before.
What you see is the status bar gets part way across and just hangs there.
I couldn't get Gmail to either Auto-fill a name for me or to load my Contacts
What I Have Done
~~~
I cleared private Data (well, Cache, Browsing History, Download
History, Saved Form and Search History as well as Authenticated
Sessions)
So, what could be the problem here?
None of the Add-ons that were updated had to do with major things {I
remember a few were WebMail Notifier, DownloadHelper, Red Cats (a
Theme)} and if I knew how to see what the others were I'd post them
too.
Thanks for your help!
This is funny because just today I was going to send a post titled Going
back to Safari I think I did more than you did.
I cleared every mention of Firefox on my Pismo 400. Downloaded and installed
the stable latest version. Then I opened Firefox and Safari and went on a
user test experience. Safari seems to pick up faster each time. And there is
only one addon on Firefox; VideoDownload Helper
Left overnight Firefox will take forever to get going again. Safari picks up
quicker. The start time for Firefox increases if you have Youtube ages up, or
any of those video sites opened, before the computer was put to sleep; either
my closing the lid or non-use with the lid open.
I've tried, at the suggestion here, to use the nightly builds. That worked
for a while until I could not even get it to open. It's a shame. I've never
had this kinds of issues on a PC.
BTW anyone know of a good way to download .swf files?
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Re: Firefox Issues
On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, nestamicky wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:26 AM, nestamicky wrote: BTW anyone know of a good way to download .swf files? You mean like from Youtube and such? I've found that CosmoPod http://www.cocoamug.com/cosmopod/ works very well for me. It's been well worth the $10 or so it cost me.(it's priced in euros, and the exchange rate's been fluctuating...) Thanks for that Bruce. Anyone, anyone with the skills and tools to get this video. I think if yes, I'd have found a way to get just about all the flash vids out there I'd like. Here is the challenge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2008/07/newsnight_wins_again.html The Beeb is particularly difficult to get video from...I believe they're using some tortured flash techniques to offer ONLY streaming video, with no local cache to capture. They're also using their own player ID in there. I've never been successful getting BBC video. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, nestamicky wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:26 AM, nestamicky wrote: BTW anyone know of a good way to download .swf files? You mean like from Youtube and such? I've found that CosmoPod http://www.cocoamug.com/cosmopod/ works very well for me. It's been well worth the $10 or so it cost me.(it's priced in euros, and the exchange rate's been fluctuating...) Thanks for that Bruce. Anyone, anyone with the skills and tools to get this video. I think if yes, I'd have found a way to get just about all the flash vids out there I'd like. Here is the challenge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2008/07/newsnight_wins_again.html The Beeb is particularly difficult to get video from...I believe they're using some tortured flash techniques to offer ONLY streaming video, with no local cache to capture. They're also using their own player ID in there. I've never been successful getting BBC video. Thanks for that Bruce. It's refreshing and good to know that I'm not the only one in the struggle. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
At 12:36 PM -0700 2/11/09, nestamicky posted: Bruce Johnson wrote: the flash vids out there I'd like. Here is the challenge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2008/07/newsnight_wins_again.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2008/07/newsnight_wins_again.html The Beeb is particularly difficult to get video from...I believe they're using some tortured flash techniques to offer ONLY streaming video, with no local cache to capture. They're also using their own player ID in there. I've never been successful getting BBC video. Thanks for that Bruce. It's refreshing and good to know that I'm not the only one in the struggle. What about using the video screen capture aspect of applications like Snap X Pro ? Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Steve R wrote: What about using the video screen capture aspect of applications like Snap X Pro ? May work, but I don't have Snap X Pro. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
On Feb 11, 1:09 pm, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: What about using the video screen capture aspect of applications like Snap X Pro ? Steve R I have successfully used IShowU to watch the beeb (and the clever 2- part Apple ads on the NY Times site ) and save as a QuickTime movie. The tricky part is trying to match frame rates. There will be some unavoidable decompression/re-compression quality loss as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox 3.0.3 opens windows to Full Screen
On Oct 31, 2008, at 9:22 AM, bob b wrote: Just installed this version and notice that it always opens in full screen mode when it starts up, or when i switch to another program or site then back to it, so I have to constanly adjust it to a smaller, preferred size. It seems not to remember the window size it was in. Open it, adjust the size, quit immediately. That used to fix that issue back in the Mozilla days. If it's not saving settings, something could be screwed up in the profile. Export your bookmarks, then delete or rename the old profile (which is in ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox) and start FF again. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I updated tot he newest Firefox (2.0.0.17) Um... the latest Firefox is 3.0.3. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox
On Oct 15, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, I updated tot he newest Firefox (2.0.0.17) and I still get the occassional warning about an Unresponsive Script on the Gmail page. Is there a way to get this to stop? Also, I did some of the steps I have found online to speed up Firefox (these involve Adblock Plus, FireFTP, Forecastfox 10n) and have to do with optimizing FF, disclosing memory leaks (the Forecastfox fix is one), etc. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! First off, I'd update to Firefox 3.0.3 to see if that would solve your problem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox
On Oct 15, 2008, at 8:30 PM, McGrude wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I updated tot he newest Firefox (2.0.0.17) Um... the latest Firefox is 3.0.3. I believe that's only for 10.4 and above. He must be using Panther as I just booted up in 10.3.9 and my Firefox is also 2.0.0.17. I think this thread is related to the one previously about Gmail. If so, then perhaps the problem is he is using an older OS than everyone who is trying to help him. Maybe that has something to do with his original problem. Just a thought. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
