Re: [Audyssey] voice kews in games
Hi Jacob. I wonder how much is your South African accent, and just the software, sinse certainly I've run into a fair amount of inaccuracies myself and even in England I'm regarded as speaking fairly precisely. I do think the technology is still improving though. Even though voice dictation has been around sinse the dos days, it's only really on tablets that any major effort is being put into developing it, and of course extra computing power will help. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voice kews in games The text fiction interpreter have played around with offers action buttons for most common commands, but, yes - one of the other primary reasons don't try do too much using voice dictation is since I'm not American, or British, and while my phone is set to recognise South African english, I don't expect it to get it right too much of the time, and tracking down and correcting multiple mistakes would be more irritating than just typing most of the text using normal touch screen...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voice kews in games Hi jacob. that is a point. I haven't downlloaded I frotz or similar if type games because I don't usually havemy blue tooth keyboard handy (it's a bit large to carry), and while the on screen keyboard is fine for just putting in a few letters to search on the ap store or writing my character name in a choiceofgames title, It would probably be a bit more of an irritation playing if. Dictation might be a plan, though I would worry about accuracy, although Ios 8 is supposed to be more accurate with that. Beware the grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] kingdom of loathing clans
On 10/27/2014 1:45 PM, emily wrote: hi all, does anyone who plays the kingdom of loathing know of a good, helpful clan. thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Hi, I find the guardians of six pack are pretty helpful. They have helped me out quite a bit. Sharon FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Pizza Delivery Game
If someone wants a recording of a game. Then if someone wants to make one let them. It may or may not have anything to do with spoilers.you get too controlling on how others want to play. why don't you let them play how they want and leave the controlling to the controllers. At 12:08 AM 10/28/2014, you wrote: I would think that it would be too early for anyone to have made a recording of the game, and I, for one, would not want to make one yet, because it is far too early for spoilers, which is one reason people want to listen to the games being played by someone. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Leo Cantos lcantos...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Jim's Pizza Delivery Game Hi, I would like to ask where I can find a recording of this game? I ask because I like to listen to the games that I get before I play them, that is probably why I loved Swamp before the whole paying thing made it's way in to the Swamp news. Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
Hi dark sir and all! I haven't purchase the game I have plans to buy the game whenever I will manage to get a Job I will definitely buy it as far as the concern of scrolls I used these to defeat the ruby guardian. I used the scroll but get a message that nothing happened the scroll has been expended. What about shamans and neckromancers because I like the job of shaman and neckromancer. Thanks Ishan one thing, can I polymorf the drake? On 10/26/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Haiden. Yep, that is also true, particularly sinse the Ranger's archery skill applies to bows and arrows only and not to any other ranged weapon. Beware the grue! Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a polite request. Hi Dark, You forgot about the part where arrows are expendible, and replenishing them is a sometimes impossible task. Most monsters farther down in the dungeon are not equipped with bows of any sort, so collecting arrows is a rare or nonexistent venture. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:17 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a polite request. The only problem with rangers is that ranged weapons suck at lower levels sinse the wooden arrows are so soft they do virtually no damage after you pass floor 15 or so. A shame really sinse your right, multishot is awsome, especially if you have cryticial hits or sneak attack. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Not only that tom, I remember someone trrying to marry windows emulation with a linux distro calling it lindows. Ms felt threatened by using something almost the same as windows and so did what ms likes to do when its threatened. the result was the name was changed but aparently the os then took a downward trend and within a few months went off the radar entirely. Linux well unix has been a server and dev os its never been meant for a home user mainstream os at least not if you have big comercial stuff which is not opensource. Now if we were all poor and helpless like india then its not so bad but we never started with linux, and the comercial companies and in fact market have grown round a windows based environment. Its why I havn't gone full bore with linux, while I will eventually possibly have a device dedicated to doing so, with the nature of my work I physically can not go linux and ditch all my windows stuff. I brought for the windows market back when I was yunger. If I wasjust starting out, it would be the mac and linux market and not the windows one, but most of my stuff in fact just about everything I own requires that windows and only windows is used. At 12:12 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Josh, Sadly that is not going to happen. While I am a big Linux proponent I also realize the majority of the world's developers won't touch Linux for a number of reasons. Some of them are down right due to licensing issues that essentially bars commercial developers from the platform. For example, the GPL is fine if a developer is willing to develop his or her software as free and open source, but if not the GPL because a cosmic pain in the butt for a commercial company. Let's say a developer wants to port some commercial program from Windows to Linux and sell it. However, a number of the libraries he or she needs to use are licensed under the GPL. They either have to release their software as open source, the same as the libraries, or have to write commercial libraries free of the GPL. Since nobody wants to do a lot of work rewriting libraries and if they are in the business to make money they won't release their software as open source. So right their Linux has shot itself in the foot by attracting commercial developers just by having too much of its libraries and core dependencies under the GPL. Another key problem for developers is market share. There are many people world wide running Linux, but they are fragmented, not unified, because they all use different distributions of Linux. As it result it makes it painful to create and distribute any piece of software that will safely run on all distributions of Linux. If a developer says he or she is only going to support say Ubuntu they are ignoring potentially millions of potential consumers by not supporting Fedora, Arch, Slackware, and so on as well. It makes it very impractical to market a product when one is dealing with upward of a hundred different versions of the same operating system. Fortunately, for a target group such as the VI gaming community it isn't quite that bad. I already know that most VI users are probably running Ubuntu or a Ubuntu derivative like Ubuntu Gnome, Vinux, etc or they have Arch or Fedora. That helps narrow the field somewhat and it would be possible to develop audio games for the majority of blind Linux gamers. Not so if one is a big company selling to the mainstream. The point here is that we are dealing with fragmentation and that is generally bad when a company is trying to develop software for a large number of consumers that could be running one of potentially hundreds of distributions of the same software. Its impossible to test them all or directly support them all. That is why a lot of Linux software comes in source format so if there isn't a specific build for your platform you can create a build yourself. If there isn't source available it puts the onus on the developer to create builds for a specific Linux platform if problems are encountered with the generic build. That said, I have been looking at this problem, and there may be a way to minimize the problem. by using something like Mono it might be possible to have a .NET application for Linux that is a build once run everywhere type of product. However, I have no idea how reliable that is across multiple versions and distributions of Linux since I haven't seen a lot of software for Linux actually use Mono. Bottom line, if you think everything is going to switch over to Linux in our life time you are dreaming. I don't believe that is going to happen because it is not in the best interests of most companies. You'd have better luck betting on Apple's Mac OS X being the next big thing. On 10/25/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu gnome or a better orca and more voices available in its app store. and if I
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
Hi ward sir! I agree with your previous statement but if you or an another member can record a battle with drake then I can make my best stratagies. I know that the game generate random party members and map but If you use all of your magic after sometime you will lack the magic power. I used my best skill. for instance if I am a drued and my lightening is maximum and I repeatedly on the drake but still his I am not mangle his body parts. I don't expect any comment during the recording. Simply record the battle with drake and off the recording. well I have another question to entombed players. Is driftwood closed their mailing list? because whenever I tried to join I got an error of 404 not found. Thanks Ishan On 10/27/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Entombed hasn't been updated in three or four years, but it is still a pretty good game. However, now that Jason is busy with family etc I don't expect him to pop out a new update every year like he was doing at the beginning of the project when he had more personal time on his hands. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and do they keep updating entombed also? I bought it back in 2010 or 2009 or so and forget my username and things. I'll just buy it over because my email has changed since back then. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] compairison between latest and old audio games.
Hi friends! Today technology is flying and audio games are touching their new hights. So Have you compaired an old audio game with the latest? for example shades of doom was firstly released in 2001 and now the latest version is available so what do you think about these three updates. There are various examples that we can compare. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Well if it did who knows. I think the big thing is that whoever takes over needs to be as good as the big ms corp. Ms usually sues whoever it is to death first or manages to et buy, also since just about everyone or at least quite a lot of us in the western reagon at least rely or use windows in a large part right now you can't just pull the plug. At 01:58 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: or if google made a version of android for the desktop and android took over all platforms. On 10/26/2014 7:12 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Sadly that is not going to happen. While I am a big Linux proponent I also realize the majority of the world's developers won't touch Linux for a number of reasons. Some of them are down right due to licensing issues that essentially bars commercial developers from the platform. For example, the GPL is fine if a developer is willing to develop his or her software as free and open source, but if not the GPL because a cosmic pain in the butt for a commercial company. Let's say a developer wants to port some commercial program from Windows to Linux and sell it. However, a number of the libraries he or she needs to use are licensed under the GPL. They either have to release their software as open source, the same as the libraries, or have to write commercial libraries free of the GPL. Since nobody wants to do a lot of work rewriting libraries and if they are in the business to make money they won't release their software as open source. So right their Linux has shot itself in the foot by attracting commercial developers just by having too much of its libraries and core dependencies under the GPL. Another key problem for developers is market share. There are many people world wide running Linux, but they are fragmented, not unified, because they all use different distributions of Linux. As it result it makes it painful to create and distribute any piece of software that will safely run on all distributions of Linux. If a developer says he or she is only going to support say Ubuntu they are ignoring potentially millions of potential consumers by not supporting Fedora, Arch, Slackware, and so on as well. It makes it very impractical to market a product when one is dealing with upward of a hundred different versions of the same operating system. Fortunately, for a target group such as the VI gaming community it isn't quite that bad. I already know that most VI users are probably running Ubuntu or a Ubuntu derivative like Ubuntu Gnome, Vinux, etc or they have Arch or Fedora. That helps narrow the field somewhat and it would be possible to develop audio games for the majority of blind Linux gamers. Not so if one is a big company selling to the mainstream. The point here is that we are dealing with fragmentation and that is generally bad when a company is trying to develop software for a large number of consumers that could be running one of potentially hundreds of distributions of the same software. Its impossible to test them all or directly support them all. That is why a lot of Linux software comes in source format so if there isn't a specific build for your platform you can create a build yourself. If there isn't source available it puts the onus on the developer to create builds for a specific Linux platform if problems are encountered with the generic build. That said, I have been looking at this problem, and there may be a way to minimize the problem. by using something like Mono it might be possible to have a .NET application for Linux that is a build once run everywhere type of product. However, I have no idea how reliable that is across multiple versions and distributions of Linux since I haven't seen a lot of software for Linux actually use Mono. Bottom line, if you think everything is going to switch over to Linux in our life time you are dreaming. I don't believe that is going to happen because it is not in the best interests of most companies. You'd have better luck betting on Apple's Mac OS X being the next big thing. On 10/25/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu gnome or a better orca and more voices available in its app store. and if I want to run windows I'll run windows xp or windows7 in a vm on the ubuntu host until everything is all switched over. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Hmmm well technically it is already, just about everything is stored somewhere and it can be accessed online. I just want control where stuff goes but I guess if you are a user of a flash based device without any external hard drive or always moving then that would be something you would want. I'd never run it all from the cloud at least not everything I own though. At 05:15 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: I will never want critical info such as bank info in the cloud. On 10/25/2014 3:21 PM, shaun everiss wrote: I agree, I'd like to control where my data is saved, I do have a few things in the cloud but nothing critical. I just want to know where I put some of my stuff. At 06:55 a.m. 26/10/2014, you wrote: I like having my local account! if I were an IT manager and if I were running a company I would not save stuff in the cloud I would want it where I know I could get at it. backups in the cloud? maybe if they were super secure. primary employee stuff would be local. and if I ran a company an ms kept messing up my company would switch over to ubuntu. Ubuntu is in the top 10 linux distributions on distrowatch.com . On 10/25/2014 3:06 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Well hopefully from a tech standpoint I won't have to upgrade at least 2 of the units here for at least another 5 or 6 years. And to be honest unless one of them breaks I am not sure if I will upgrade for some time to come. I know for a fact that several people on the network are retiring in the next 2 or so years and that will change slightly the use of at least 1 of the computers. I am not sure how much change that will mean as there will continue to be a lot of business stuff on there but point is, the funds I will have after the next 2 years or so will not really be that great. I doubt for instance that next time I upgrade it will be because windows is out of support, more likely it will be because my laptop battery has exploded or something. Thing is for the last 3-4 upgrades either I have needed it or the systems in question are broken or have not been upgraded for some time. With one acception every user is happy with their level of power. In short ms will need to really convince people to switch, I know for example that 7 is the last os that doesn't need a ms account to login. 10 now its the only way to use the system and I am sure that later oses will not have local account either. At 01:15 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Ishan, There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13 2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft will officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated features or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be fine until 2020 when Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008. As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better might be available by then and people will want to upgrade to that. In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7 support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other critical updates will still be provided until 2020. Cheers! On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi josh sir! but what you will do after January? because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things. The company want to end the technical support. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Yes it does how ever I don't have a system myself with that processer and memmory or hardware vertualisation which is needed for things to run really ast, sadly on this laptop which is an i5 duel I have tried alocating memmory up to half what I have at times and 1 or 2 of my 4 cores but no matter how much or how little I dedicate the vertual os runs slower than the host os. At 03:00 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Each to their own of course, but I think the thing you are overlooking is choice. By running Linux as a host and Windows as a guest OS through a virtual machine you get the advantage of both operating systems on the same machine. Can in fact run both at the same time given enough processor power and memory. That has tremendous advantages over just running a single OS like Windows on its own. First, is the issue of security. It is a well known fact that Linux is much more secure than Windows on many levels. Less issues with viruses, spyware, worms, etc. Better multi-user design, better handling of user permissions, login and authentication, etc. Bottom line, it makes a great stable platform to run one or more virtual machines from because it is less likely than Windows to be infected or cracked by outside security breaches. Second, is cost of everyday applications. A decent Linux distribution such as Ubuntu comes with all the basic applications one would want or need such as Firefox for web browsing, Thunderbird for e-mail, Gedit for notetaking, Libre Office for office documents, Totem for music and movies, etc. In short, a person can have a bunch of everyday software for free, and get updates as soon as they become available. This allows the user to use their Windows virtual machine for commercial software not available for Linux such as audio games, expensive sound/video editors, or anything else they need to use which is not available for Linux. Its the best of both worlds as far as I concerned. In my opinion the oh hum everybody uses Windows attitude only restricts the end user to one and one option. They either have to pay expensive prices to upgrade their Windows software from time to time, or they stick with their old tech until it falls apart. Neither is particularly wise considering there are other options available. Ignoring those other options because they are less popular than the most popular OS going only serves to limit your freedom of choice. Cheers! On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I'd switch but I have so many windows apps I'd have to run a vm of xp or something and if thats the case I may as well continue with windows pluss being an admin everyone uses windows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
and maybe thats my problem right there mate. While there is a lot of new tech coming out, there is no need for me to actually move with the times. While I do go on about my tech work, most of it is fixing systems at home, testing software and a few other things. 90% of my work is done online or at least on site. I don't usually need any complex reports to do so I don't even have an updated or legal coppy of office which is not 10 years old. As a result of this and the fact most stuff is via email or sms I don't even have a phone that needs to be even half as updated as I do. in fact if things didn't get insecure I could continue with win98 or even dos quite happily. well maybe not win 98 or dos but sertainly win2000 or xp. For the work I do offsite and its not much, i use the device thats there. My upgrades are usually performance, security to the minimal specs or because its required. Which was why I didn't upgrade jaws, though if I went to work jaws is what is expected for business so I'd have to keep that updated. yunger people are using braille dvices and other things, but with what I do right now, I really don't need that much. Ofcause as I build myself up here and online as a self employed contracter for sound, testing and a little bit of lite hacking and other tests that may become something I can afford/ need, however I doubt I will ever upgrade unnecessarily. Even if I have the cash which I don't. I am also in my 30s, if I had the cash who knows. The only thing I really want is a quad core with maybe 8-16gb ram, win 7 x64 and the ability to have hardware vertualisation so I could run vertual machines, heck maybe a linux or apple machine to but to be honest I only upgrade what I need. A friend just gave me their c005 nokia, and while its a bit stupid to get talks for that now eventually I may end up doing just that. I have not been as exposed to the fullness of the newer stuf as others have or have needed to move as fast as most have had to. in fact if security was not a major concern I could have stayed in the mud and not given a stiff such is the nature of my current project based work. At 02:34 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, While I can identify with newer tech being alien, strange to someone who is use to something else, the fact of the matter is people need to be flexible. Need to learn to roll with the change, because new tech is always coming out and it isn't wise to get use to any particular technology as it can and will change at some point. I am a man in his mid 30's and I can say much has changed between when I started school and now. When I was in elementary school the greatest thing was the Apple II-E. A lot of people who could afford one had one, and those who didn't could use one at school which I did. Now days a person's iPhone is light years ahead of anything we had in the mid 80's, and I foresee a day in the not too distant future where desktops, laptops, etc will be more or less a thing of the past. Most people will probably have tablets running iOS, Android, or Windows. computers as we understand them now will be reserved for businesses where it would be impractical to type via touchscreen or run a computer for 8 to 12 hours a day in an office. So it seems to me to be prudent to begin thinking about that change and preparing for it by learning those skills now rather than later. As far as anyone thinking keyboards suck that sounds to me that person is pretty narrow minded. While touchscreens are nice and handy different input methods are available precisely because they are better at different things. Its not a case of either/or but a case of use the input method that does the best job at the time. Nobody is going to want to write a 500 page novel on a touchscreen, in fact would be a bit crazy, but is no problem on a keyboard. Likewise there is no argument that touchscreens are freer nice because they are like having a mouse and keyboard in one device, allowing movement around the screen, and are perfectly suited to browsing information, selecting a phone number from an addressbook, for pointing to screen elements and activating them, but are lousy at large amounts of input such as writing a novel. Only a stupid ignorant sod would say one input method is better than the other without first considering the use it is being put to. Cheers! On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I agree josh, I had to do for a customer a general cleanout of windows and update and install of some major systems. I also had to run a couple clearout programs which I did overnight. I did not like win8, and while I was able with a bit of help get win 8.1 up, I worked through the night to get the system ready for a morning pickup,, because although I could have kept it for a wek or 2 win 8 really didn't settle with me and I wanted to get it out of the door asap! My cousin has had issues with his net and whenever that happens, and he can
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Well pro is what most should be striving to, it has more network stuff and more features, everyone here uses pro everything no one uses home anymore but most of the family does business related stuff including me. At 01:55 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: if I have to I'll get a business license just so I can get the professional version of windows but really I think anyone can go get windows pro if they wish. its a bit more to buy but is worth it I think. On 10/26/2014 6:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Honestly, I have no idea. However, I'll just say that the pro/business class software businesses use is and has always been different from what the home users get. You know that the home version is often lacking features that pro, business, and ultimate has. My guess is when it comes to Microsoft accounts businesses may get some sort of break or slightly different policy than the usual home version that ships on laptops and desktop machines. However, that is just a guess on my part. Cheers! On 10/25/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and do you really think businesses are gunna want to use microsoft accounts for everything? I would not. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] the raspberry pie
I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago now but there are various issues with the pie at the time of freading which was at the end of last year beginning of this. The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version makes things access wize break. Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can only process one sound or image at once not both. The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you need to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. you also need an eduino to program it aparently. It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things but as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time I read the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure since then. At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB game-pad. Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're right into the game. The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide for networked games. The common hardware along with the included Linux system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same experience for everyone. Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that game launched. Just throwing ideas out on the table... -tim On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you flash onto your console and once flashed, the console is accessible with accessible games you can buy from between $5 and $20 or so. I would love that! On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello Josh, Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. More and more console games are being modded and customized than you might think. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a console. you cannot make game mods. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Well I do think there will still be a place for the pc or at least a stationary console of whatever but it depends what you do. A friend I have and several family have a computer but hardly update or even use it as they are on tablets. I will never get a desktop or at least not right now a laptop/ epc is always what I like. But the concept of a computer is changing so who knows. At 02:43 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Not sure what you mean by on the go but I do agree a massive migration to Linux won't happen. If anything people should be looking at other markets where Microsoft is getting its butt kicked by Apple and Google in the phone and tablet market. I look for that to largely replace the PC market in the next few years, and its not hard to see most people using a tablet rather than a laptop mainly do to convenience. Unless Microsoft comes up with something truly new and revolutionary the next mainstream OS will be iOS or Android. Right now we are in a transitional phase. A lot of people have both. They have their desktop or their laptop running some flavor of Windows, and have either a phone or tablet running some mobile OS like Android or iOS. Sooner or later I look for the balance to shift towards the mobile market since it isn't really necessary to own a laptop to read e-mail, browse the web, listen to music, or read someone's favorite e-books. All of those things can be easily performed on most phones and tablets, and it only makes sense the market will shift in that direction sooner or later. Cheers! On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: won't happen, a lot of mainstream people use ms and that is where the issues lie. a lot of the world is on the go but there is the smaller nitch who is not necessarily on the go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
If I switched I would have an apple of apple stuff and my phone on a an android though to be honest windows 10 is supposed to be on phones to and if it works as well who knows I am not sure. At 06:30 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: well if I must switch to a tablet I'll go with android before apple just because android is more open like linux and windows. On 10/26/2014 9:43 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Not sure what you mean by on the go but I do agree a massive migration to Linux won't happen. If anything people should be looking at other markets where Microsoft is getting its butt kicked by Apple and Google in the phone and tablet market. I look for that to largely replace the PC market in the next few years, and its not hard to see most people using a tablet rather than a laptop mainly do to convenience. Unless Microsoft comes up with something truly new and revolutionary the next mainstream OS will be iOS or Android. Right now we are in a transitional phase. A lot of people have both. They have their desktop or their laptop running some flavor of Windows, and have either a phone or tablet running some mobile OS like Android or iOS. Sooner or later I look for the balance to shift towards the mobile market since it isn't really necessary to own a laptop to read e-mail, browse the web, listen to music, or read someone's favorite e-books. All of those things can be easily performed on most phones and tablets, and it only makes sense the market will shift in that direction sooner or later. Cheers! On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: won't happen, a lot of mainstream people use ms and that is where the issues lie. a lot of the world is on the go but there is the smaller nitch who is not necessarily on the go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
Well it depends what you have, if you have a high enough level you can handle him or if you have an ogre or 2 but yeah he is quite hard. At 05:57 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi friends I am not able to defeat Mr drake in entombed. and he is swallowing my body parts. So kindly provide me an excellent recording of drake battle. anything will be highly appreciated specially stratagies and if someone provide me the recording I will be thankfull for the particular person. My highest expectation from Mr ward the moderator of this list. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
I have heard someone type faster than on a keyboard, one of my ffriends can type a document on a tablet watch tv and chat to me all at once not sure how he does it so it can be done but not my cup of tea. At 06:16 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Josh, Well, the speed and accuracy of typing on a touchscreen depends on the person. I have heard of some people who can type almost as fast on their touch device as a standard keyboard. So I'm not sure if I'd completely agree with your statement that it is slow. Certainly for a lot of people, but not necessarily for everyone. I might add that a person could write a paper for a class on their touch device, but I do agree it could get frustrating. They aren't designed for touch typing long documents of any kind and that is why blue tooth keyboards and so on exists. Sooner or later a person will need a keyboard for extended data entry and it can be done on tablets and phones provided they have a keyboard available for the device. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: try typing a paper on a touch screen for college or writing reports. it won't work and will frustrate you because typing on touch screen is slow. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] voice kews in games
well the issue is training the voice, right now because we need to listen to the screen reader we are at a disadvantage of ever training our voice we would have to have seperate material to train with. yes it can be done I tried doing it was the ms speech engine to get it started but it was quite slow and I ended up forgetting about it. At 01:37 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: sinse we've been discussing voice activation for new technology in a general sense, I wondered what people thought about the possibilities of voice control for games, after all this is something that has already started on mainstream consoles and a couple of indi games such as codename signus. So, I wonder what people think a good use of speech control for games would be. A voice activated arcade game could be entertaining and provide a lot of atmosphere, imagine a racing game where your yelling left! left! now breeak! or a sort of Dj style boppit game where your saying in rythm hit it! pull it! or whatever. however the major field I see for voice working in is stratogy games and rpgs. generally you can speak faster than you can type, and definitely faster than you can find and hit controls. sinse however speech is a manifestly more complex method of input than just hitting buttons, and doesn't have the disadvantage of having a relativistic speed and being commonly missunderstood the way fast typed keyboard inputs do, I wonder if speech in a mud or real time stratogy game could be fun, especially sinse you could have your hands on the touch screen or keyboard controls doing other things. Imagine for example an rpg where you used the keyboard to launche physical attacks such as sword thrusts in response to real time audio, but used your voice to wield magic. This could be quite a lot of fun, because the essential physical combat could then work in an arcade style and the complexity could occur at the metter level of your speech. For example the arcade fighting part of the game could be similar to blind swordsman, ie, hear a sword swing and block, but you could then use your voice to say Cast ice blade! or similar. Similarly, imagine a real time time of conflict style stratogy where you could give all your orders vocally. you could be reviewing the map with your fingers or curser keys, but could give orders as you did it rather than having to pause the game and input commands. Of course the disadvantage is I don't know whether this technology would exists sinse the hole chat and gaming thing is also very common at the moment and certainly on mainstream consoles mikes are more commonly for voice chat with other online players than voice commands to the game, but I thought it was a fun idea. Obviously for access reasons as Tom said earlier there would need to be more traditional alternatives in such games, but I did think it was an interesting possibility to speculate on. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
I agree josh, I think there will be keyboards even if they have to be external. They may be flatter or something but I garentee that the board will still exist though they may be touch or probably button style buttons and not push in keys. One thing that has not been covered here is voice recognition, and my brother who has rsi uses it for just about everything in his life as without it he wouldn't be able to use a computer for long periods without his hands aking. For the blind, who do need keyboards though we can use touch for somethings who knows. Not all touch apps are accessable right now and there are a lot more keyboard stuff than touch but that may change. At 05:14 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: try typing a paper on a touch screen for college or writing reports. it won't work and will frustrate you because typing on touch screen is slow. On 10/25/2014 3:19 PM, shaun everiss wrote: I agree josh, I had to do for a customer a general cleanout of windows and update and install of some major systems. I also had to run a couple clearout programs which I did overnight. I did not like win8, and while I was able with a bit of help get win 8.1 up, I worked through the night to get the system ready for a morning pickup,, because although I could have kept it for a wek or 2 win 8 really didn't settle with me and I wanted to get it out of the door asap! My cousin has had issues with his net and whenever that happens, and he can not log in he has no system access till he can get the networking which is why I really don't like the idea of an net account as my primary login without a fallback. that and the fact that after all the stories on us cert, about nas storage hacks, ssl3 hacks and online cloud hacks that I could be online unnecessarily. On this 7 box while I am online, I don't need to login to be online, in fact I can be offline full stop! if I do get this win8 or 10 or whatever I get next, then when I make the system go I will make sure that I turn off my router before installing for the first time. It seems the easiest way to get round making an ms account. i also don't like all my info just sitting there for any person to access and me not being in control. in 7 at least I can shut everything off delete all ms live files and say I don't want to be online. When I do all my payed work and other things, no drop box, no bt sync, no messenger no mail, nothing, when my nose hits that grindstone I don't want distractions at all! And that will include live tiles, its probable that I will end up with something like classic shell with win7 or xp start menu loaded and whatever classic adjustments I can get with a local account though I will be missing out on a lot of store features and metro apps its not like I hav needed them up to now, and I have used a desktop for the last 20 years this way though I can see the potentual for the newer people that start its the same with the iphone, etc, I have never used a tablet so don't know what I am missing,. and since I have inherited another phone as long as I can spend the large load of cash on talks its probably what I will end up doing though I have used a tablet once and can see why people like it. Its all what you grow up with and I am sure if i was born now, that I'd think the keyboard a bunch of crap and that I like touch, however I was round when it was all keyboards and touch devices are as forign to me as aliens and I have no need to actually use one right now, maybe that will change. At 06:52 a.m. 26/10/2014, you wrote: I don't or i should say I did not like windows8.1 at all when I had it on this computer, because it would not run my windows xp virtual machine at all. it ran but audio was slow and it was buggy as ever. audio was so choppy it was completely unuseable. so I went back to windows7. now everything works better. microsoft better listen to their customers or I'll switch over to ubuntu linux and run windows xp in a vm on there. On 10/25/2014 2:58 AM, shaun everiss wrote: well I don't think they can just stop producing 7 just like that, all the boxes we have are on 7, and while there is a market for it pc manufacturers will still release drivers till at least support for updates ends. thats not for another 5 years. Even if ms stops drivver library support most drivers for ms are generic ones anyway. As well as this because of the 8x disaster ms really needs to make sure that their new os works this time, right now it looks ok but there is always a chance to wreck it later. To be honest if xp didn't drop outside support I'd continue using it and now it appears they are trying to make vertuals with xp not work in 8 and up put it this way I have no desire to even think of upgrading. At 07:24 p.m. 24/10/2014, you wrote: Hi josh sir! but what you will do after January? because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things. The company want to end the technical support. Thanks
Re: [Audyssey] end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
I agree dark. some of that has been done with search but its not good say with multipul items say I want shades of doom it will find the first one it sees which is usually 1.2 but not 2.0. Or if I ant smuglers games to play it may not bring up all the searches I want and sometimes it takes a while to come up. Also on the odd ocations in windows I have had the index corrupt and have to rebuild it. Also is the point that if you index an external device like a drive if something changes it has to reindex everything again. At 08:59 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Tom. I do think keyboards will hang on as I said, though for many blind and vi computer users if it were possible to access functions without having to scrabble around with a screen reader, or poke around a touch screen for icons that would be very useful, indeed it would help with a lot of user interface problems sinse you'd no longer need to worry about where is so and so in this new os or similar. I can already say to siri open the ap store or phone my brother and indeed I usualy use Siri this way to phone people sinse it's easier than running through my big list of contats. One interesting thought however, is that if dictation does go to it's ultimate conclusion to the point that you can access anything via dictation, there will need to be a backup. What do you do at work, or at night when you don't want to wake someone up? While there will probably still be a touch screen, likely if people are used to speaking to their computers this probably will be a less efficient interface for accessing everything, sinse if people have been talking to their machines how will they know under which set of sub menus say control center settings is, so people will need a way of conveying information to the computer in a wway that is like speech but in situations where speech is not possible. Bring back the C prompt! :D. Whether people will be using keyboards or some varient of an on screen keyboard I don't know, but if computers get sophisticated enough so that speech becomes the medium of interaction and people are no longer having to use a language of learnt symbols and nested information, well what is like speech but not speech, writing! :D. And things go full circle :d. Of course I'm not sure on this. I suspect that sinse most sighted people still respond to images over writing the gui will still be around in a usable form, even if the gui is more limited than the speech access, but still it'd be a nice thought and rather ironic. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
I agree, who knows eventurally the machines will rule the world and us as their slaves and we may not mind that much. At 08:46 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: We have caller ID so that we know who is calling us, and we have answering machines either built into the phone or as a service from our provider so that we don't have to answer the phone. We have spell checkers so that we don't have to know how to spell. Screen readers and audio books replace the need for braille so we don't need to know how to read. Possibly, in the future, voice dictation and visual gestures may take the place of keyboards so we won't need to know how to type. With all of the skills that will be lost due to not being needed, is this a good thing? It's the dumbing down of humanity, getting worse and worse. Now, am I serious, or not?? To a degree, yes. Oh, I almost forgot one more: Calculators make learning math unnecessary. How many people do math in their heads anymore, or even know how to make change at a supermarket? What would they do if the cash register's power fails and they have to do anything manually? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech Hi Phil, I suppose that is always possible. I'm seeing more and more voice dictation all the time, and although I can't really use it myself I do see the mainstream using it as a replacement for keyboard input in a few years. I hadn't thought about that issue before, but as voice dictation improves people are naturally going to use that over physical input devices like keyboards and touchscreens. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Keyboards? Soon they will be as obsolete as a film camera. Most people in a few years will be using dictation, letting their laptop or tablet do the typing. Most games will use voice input and output, or physical gesture identification. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
my issue is with braille devices even if you are able to afford them to get one serviced heck to get any tech serviced especially accss tech like braille devices costs a lot and may entale getting another device. At 02:13 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: I guess if you want a braille display or embosser you have to buy one on ebay and hope that it works. On 10/26/2014 7:18 PM, tim wrote: If it wasn't for these so called machine doing the reading. Than thousands of books wouldn't be available for those to read even if you know brail. Because not all books are transferred to brail and not all readers have access to those books. That is why these machines do brail translation for those that want them.. At 05:30 PM 10/26/2014, you wrote: Hi Charlse. We have had the Braille vs screen reader debate before and I still disagree, if a person is listening to an audio book that is still reading if you ask me. likewise, if a person in the future writes a book vvia dictation that's still writing. It's content that matters. Is a great sheff today any the less of a sheff because they do not cut sticks, lay a fire, use a refrigerator, need to turn a spit, use a bellows to keep the fire going or anyth of the other things which in the past were necessary to cook? Heck no. If they are a great sheff we judge them by what they produce, not how they produce it. For me, a far greater concern is the standardization of methods of production and disemination which could influence creativity. In the same way as a sheff who only had access to tinned goods would not be as good a sheff as a sheff who could put their own individual stamp on fresh ingredience, I am concerned that kitbox creation methods and standardization (not to mention need to appeal to an increasingly small number of corporations which is a hole other debate), might have an adverse affect on creativity. If for example the dictation software couldn't handle fantasy names, or unusual punctuation that could be a major creative issue. That is why I personally believe written language and letters will continue sinse use of letters and punctuation allows the greatest diversity in creation, whether that's writing, coding or whatever, and why, while I don't agree about braille, I do not like the idea of everyone devolving into text speak sinse limitation of language also involves limitation of thought. I also get concerned over tools like madlibs, rhyming dictionary programs or synonym creators, and (to bring this back to games), if game creation became too limited. For example if the only thing on offer was customizations of console games based on choice, eg, creating a character by selecting from a huge bunch of elements, rather than allowing a platform where people could program their own games, or even create their own elements in a scripting language. Whether in the future the letters are typed, brailled, written with a pen, or selected from some sort of efficient on screen keyboard doesn't seem to matter to me, same with programming so long as the choice still exists and the end product can be as individualized. Ironically, a friend of mine who is a student of literature said people actually thought the same of the printing press. The arguement was if copies of a book could be instantly created by printing rather than painstakingly copied out by hand, this made the book less valuable and encouraged laziness on the part of the authors, as well as devaluing of the book on the part of the reader. Indeed apparently some holy orders forbade religious books to be printed, and the gutenberg Bible was actually banned in some parts of Europe. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and
[Audyssey] consoles
Do you have any idea of the cost? pcs failed ages back. I know that reality gaming or a branch of them are trying again with the aim of shifting full time to the console. However, all thats known internally is a secret code and some really basic specs. I don't even know what the status of that is, or in fact the console of the company and the branch thats working on it. I must say it would be nice to be up with the play though. At 04:01 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: how about basing it on a custom console debian with a custom menu for games and stuff. and then you buy your games over a server also running debian console or grml based on debian. On 10/26/2014 10:50 PM, Tim Chase wrote: It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB game-pad. Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're right into the game. The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide for networked games. The common hardware along with the included Linux system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same experience for everyone. Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that game launched. Just throwing ideas out on the table... -tim On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you flash onto your console and once flashed, the console is accessible with accessible games you can buy from between $5 and $20 or so. I would love that! On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello Josh, Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. More and more console games are being modded and customized than you might think. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a console. you cannot make game mods. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
no update since 1.05 has ever been released. At 02:19 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: and do they keep updating entombed also? I bought it back in 2010 or 2009 or so and forget my username and things. I'll just buy it over because my email has changed since back then. On 10/26/2014 8:03 PM, dark wrote: Yes, it's still definitely for sale. if you've not bought it yet I'd certainly recommend doing so sinse it's awsome. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a polite request. do they still sell entombed? or has it been discontinued? On 10/26/2014 4:12 PM, dark wrote: Hi Ishen. I don't have a recording of the drake but I can give you some advice. The drake is big, tough, hard to damage, however he has one weakness. There is only one of him. My usual stratogy is to focus not on killing the drake with big attacks, but on stopping him killing me while I chip away at his health. So scrolls like sleep, weaken and slow, abilities like hide, Shrinking the drake and then knocking him over meaning he'll need to spend a turn standing, the mending and battle songs of the bard can all come in handy. Usually I have one character attacking the drake, say an assassin, a monk or a necro, one character handing out healing potions, and one character either using scrolls or acting a secondary attacker. It's hard to suggest without knowing your party, but basically focus on making your party strong and what abilities complement each other, for example, using the assassin's crytical hits and sneak attack, or the monk's iron skin, multiple attacks and unarmed. Dont' just try to go for big damage, but think in terms of tactics, try to make the drake lose and keep your own party going. Once, in an early version of entombed (and one where Jason rather over powered the drake), I defeated him by having a mage shrink the drake, grow my ogre brawler, then having the brawler continually use tackle on the drake keeping him on the ground. On another occasion, I got my wolf killed earlier on, then had my druid cast lightning thus leading to a zombie wolf on my side, who then bit the drake and rotted him to death (that was hilarious). Use everything and anything you have, scrolls, magic potions, weapons with interesting affects, and think carefully. If you just keep hitting attack attack, your bound to lose, it takes stratogy to kill the Drake. If worst comes to absolute worst, you can hear where the drake is, so go down the dungeon a few levels and then come back and deal with him with a stronger party. I've heard this is how some people deal with him, though I've never done that myself as to me dealing with the drake on level 8 where you find him is all part of the challenge of the game. Hth. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the
Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
well at uni I used a cheaker because everything was fast paced. when I stopped using it for everything I found me umable to spell or even write properly and this was for barely 6 months of doing this. At 11:42 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: If you dictate and use a spell checker, you won't retain any sills at spelling that you may have been taught. Why write or type something when you can just say it? Same with reading. Why read when someone or something can read to you? Making change rather than relying on a machine to do it for long enough, and you won't be able to do it anymore. After all, why bother? Calculators decrease math skills. Let machines do everything for us, and we won't be able to do without them, and if they break, we're sunk more quickly than a torpedoed Lone Wolf sub Marine. By the way, on purpose, I made some spelling miss steaks in this message. Some were corrected by a spell checker, some weren't, because they are legitimate words that went through with no problems. If you were doing the reading, you caught them, but if you were listening, you probably didn't. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards,was Throwaway Tech Hi Charlse. We have had the Braille vs screen reader debate before and I still disagree, if a person is listening to an audio book that is still reading if you ask me. likewise, if a person in the future writes a book vvia dictation that's still writing. It's content that matters. Is a great sheff today any the less of a sheff because they do not cut sticks, lay a fire, use a refrigerator, need to turn a spit, use a bellows to keep the fire going or anyth of the other things which in the past were necessary to cook? Heck no. If they are a great sheff we judge them by what they produce, not how they produce it. For me, a far greater concern is the standardization of methods of production and disemination which could influence creativity. In the same way as a sheff who only had access to tinned goods would not be as good a sheff as a sheff who could put their own individual stamp on fresh ingredience, I am concerned that kitbox creation methods and standardization (not to mention need to appeal to an increasingly small number of corporations which is a hole other debate), might have an adverse affect on creativity. If for example the dictation software couldn't handle fantasy names, or unusual punctuation that could be a major creative issue. That is why I personally believe written language and letters will continue sinse use of letters and punctuation allows the greatest diversity in creation, whether that's writing, coding or whatever, and why, while I don't agree about braille, I do not like the idea of everyone devolving into text speak sinse limitation of language also involves limitation of thought. I also get concerned over tools like madlibs, rhyming dictionary programs or synonym creators, and (to bring this back to games), if game creation became too limited. For example if the only thing on offer was customizations of console games based on choice, eg, creating a character by selecting from a huge bunch of elements, rather than allowing a platform where people could program their own games, or even create their own elements in a scripting language. Whether in the future the letters are typed, brailled, written with a pen, or selected from some sort of efficient on screen keyboard doesn't seem to matter to me, same with programming so long as the choice still exists and the end product can be as individualized. Ironically, a friend of mine who is a student of literature said people actually thought the same of the printing press. The arguement was if copies of a book could be instantly created by printing rather than painstakingly copied out by hand, this made the book less valuable and encouraged laziness on the part of the authors, as well as devaluing of the book on the part of the reader. Indeed apparently some holy orders forbade religious books to be printed, and the gutenberg Bible was actually banned in some parts of Europe. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
Re: [Audyssey] end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
well you would need a keyboard I think we will always have a keyboard but it will have its place. At 07:21 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: and if the dictation gets your spelling wrong? editing may be a bit of a pain on a touch only device. And what if you want to write something down in a busy public place with lots of noise? sort of difficult using dictation only due to heavy background noise. On 10/26/2014 2:01 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, Keyboards? Soon they will be as obsolete as a film camera. Most people in a few years will be using dictation, letting their laptop or tablet do the typing. Most games will use voice input and output, or physical gesture identification. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
well not sure about apple but with android people will manage to get it right some day. On an interesting note, a tech who works with me on some project tried to run everything from his tablet, he found at least with his apple with a word procsser even with pages or office that it was hard to type with touch and slwer than a pc, it was more convenient to do any really big things on his pc. Tablets wil have their place and they may take over the small and medium tasks in our lives, but it will be a while before everything gets as farast that it will not matter what you use anymore. maybe in a few hundred years we may see this but right now the keyboard is still needed. At 06:36 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: also talkback and voiceover on the tablets will need to get a lot better. for papers and work and school they will need powerful features such as those you find in Jaws for windows. On 10/26/2014 1:16 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Well, the speed and accuracy of typing on a touchscreen depends on the person. I have heard of some people who can type almost as fast on their touch device as a standard keyboard. So I'm not sure if I'd completely agree with your statement that it is slow. Certainly for a lot of people, but not necessarily for everyone. I might add that a person could write a paper for a class on their touch device, but I do agree it could get frustrating. They aren't designed for touch typing long documents of any kind and that is why blue tooth keyboards and so on exists. Sooner or later a person will need a keyboard for extended data entry and it can be done on tablets and phones provided they have a keyboard available for the device. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: try typing a paper on a touch screen for college or writing reports. it won't work and will frustrate you because typing on touch screen is slow. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
I agree dentin, keyboards will have their place just as offline storage,desktops etc will have their place it may not be for everything but it will still exist. At 07:55 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Keyboards will be around for a long time. There's a lot of skills, like programming and gaming, which really just can't use dictation effectively. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and if the dictation gets your spelling wrong? editing may be a bit of a pain on a touch only device. And what if you want to write something down in a busy public place with lots of noise? sort of difficult using dictation only due to heavy background noise. On 10/26/2014 2:01 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, Keyboards? Soon they will be as obsolete as a film camera. Most people in a few years will be using dictation, letting their laptop or tablet do the typing. Most games will use voice input and output, or physical gesture identification. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
I agree with you phill there will be a keyboard or the ability to use one but a lot of things are like that the x box kinect system for example I must say if it ever got to gaming imagine you have to train for say an hour or something and imagine you get on your cycle, you could run a race or tourniment and potentually get cash win, crash, and a lot of other things. or play sports with full sound, my cousin already uses some of this tech at his gym, training his muscles and entertaining himself, posting videos to the cloud, and online scores. Sertainly its growing phill/ At 07:01 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Thomas, Keyboards? Soon they will be as obsolete as a film camera. Most people in a few years will be using dictation, letting their laptop or tablet do the typing. Most games will use voice input and output, or physical gesture identification. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Jim's Pizza Delivery Game
I could see where you are talking about spoilers, but I don't need a full walkthrough, I would just like to know what it sounds like since I can't play it right now as I don't have a computer that can be used for games. Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
a lot of controlers are bluetooth these days, keyboards to, and some tablets will have usb ports may not apple but the rest who knows. As long as we can plug a usb device in it will be ok. And as for the other I think there will always be a market for a traditional interface of a sort. Look at windows 8, businesses are big users of windows and didn't like tablet interfaces so even if everyone uses tablets there will be a place for the old board look at my other message about speech recognition though, its getting bigger. At 06:29 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: so if we all have tablets like IOS or android how will school students write their 5 to 20 page papers? How will people who like to tinker and run virtual machines do that on a IOS tablet? How will the hard-core gamers play their games on the big screen with racing wheels joysticks and big screens or their wireless gaming controllers? On 10/26/2014 9:34 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, While I can identify with newer tech being alien, strange to someone who is use to something else, the fact of the matter is people need to be flexible. Need to learn to roll with the change, because new tech is always coming out and it isn't wise to get use to any particular technology as it can and will change at some point. I am a man in his mid 30's and I can say much has changed between when I started school and now. When I was in elementary school the greatest thing was the Apple II-E. A lot of people who could afford one had one, and those who didn't could use one at school which I did. Now days a person's iPhone is light years ahead of anything we had in the mid 80's, and I foresee a day in the not too distant future where desktops, laptops, etc will be more or less a thing of the past. Most people will probably have tablets running iOS, Android, or Windows. computers as we understand them now will be reserved for businesses where it would be impractical to type via touchscreen or run a computer for 8 to 12 hours a day in an office. So it seems to me to be prudent to begin thinking about that change and preparing for it by learning those skills now rather than later. As far as anyone thinking keyboards suck that sounds to me that person is pretty narrow minded. While touchscreens are nice and handy different input methods are available precisely because they are better at different things. Its not a case of either/or but a case of use the input method that does the best job at the time. Nobody is going to want to write a 500 page novel on a touchscreen, in fact would be a bit crazy, but is no problem on a keyboard. Likewise there is no argument that touchscreens are freer nice because they are like having a mouse and keyboard in one device, allowing movement around the screen, and are perfectly suited to browsing information, selecting a phone number from an addressbook, for pointing to screen elements and activating them, but are lousy at large amounts of input such as writing a novel. Only a stupid ignorant sod would say one input method is better than the other without first considering the use it is being put to. Cheers! On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I agree josh, I had to do for a customer a general cleanout of windows and update and install of some major systems. I also had to run a couple clearout programs which I did overnight. I did not like win8, and while I was able with a bit of help get win 8.1 up, I worked through the night to get the system ready for a morning pickup,, because although I could have kept it for a wek or 2 win 8 really didn't settle with me and I wanted to get it out of the door asap! My cousin has had issues with his net and whenever that happens, and he can not log in he has no system access till he can get the networking which is why I really don't like the idea of an net account as my primary login without a fallback. that and the fact that after all the stories on us cert, about nas storage hacks, ssl3 hacks and online cloud hacks that I could be online unnecessarily. On this 7 box while I am online, I don't need to login to be online, in fact I can be offline full stop! if I do get this win8 or 10 or whatever I get next, then when I make the system go I will make sure that I turn off my router before installing for the first time. It seems the easiest way to get round making an ms account. i also don't like all my info just sitting there for any person to access and me not being in control. in 7 at least I can shut everything off delete all ms live files and say I don't want to be online. When I do all my payed work and other things, no drop box, no bt sync, no messenger no mail, nothing, when my nose hits that grindstone I don't want distractions at all! And that will include live tiles, its probable that I will end up with something like classic shell with win7 or xp start menu loaded and whatever classic adjustments I can get with a local account though I will be missing out
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
well one technology I have heard about but not sceen is a device that will use projected light to put up a keyboard onto a screen touch or a blackboard not much usefull for us but aparently whatever you type can be stored on that device, that device can access printers and such later on. you can use it to write like with a pen. a computer that small is possible not for us but still. Ofcause all this new tech will need to drop in price for us to afford it. And with all this new stuff will be a rubbish market with all the crap no one wants which will include yesterdays tech which to be honest we will use. that will not run out for a while and by the time it does we should either have things so it works for us or have the ability to design and sell our own stuff and make our own cash. At 08:15 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: Hi Josh, I imagine for students they will write their reports and other lengthy documents by voice dictation or by using a blue tooth keyboard. I doubt they'll do so using a touchscreen and will choose to use some alternate input method for doing their school work on a tablet. As for hard core gamers they'll probably continue to use dedicated consoles like XBox, Play Station, Wii, etc for games. Tablets have games, but nothing on par with what is available for the console. Even so there are ways to use your iPhone and iPad with a large TV screen so if someone really wants to they can use their TV etc as a monitor rather than depending on the built in screen for gaming. As for virtual machines and tablets dream on. They aren't designed for that sort of thing. Never were, and I doubt ever will. They have limited storage capacity, don't have enough RAM and CPU power for virtual machines, and I just don't see people doing that unless they absolutely had to. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: so if we all have tablets like IOS or android how will school students write their 5 to 20 page papers? How will people who like to tinker and run virtual machines do that on a IOS tablet? How will the hard-core gamers play their games on the big screen with racing wheels joysticks and big screens or their wireless gaming controllers? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
Well its still sold I got it a couple years back but I just got the cheat code this year so it must work still. At 09:15 a.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: do they still sell entombed? or has it been discontinued? On 10/26/2014 4:12 PM, dark wrote: Hi Ishen. I don't have a recording of the drake but I can give you some advice. The drake is big, tough, hard to damage, however he has one weakness. There is only one of him. My usual stratogy is to focus not on killing the drake with big attacks, but on stopping him killing me while I chip away at his health. So scrolls like sleep, weaken and slow, abilities like hide, Shrinking the drake and then knocking him over meaning he'll need to spend a turn standing, the mending and battle songs of the bard can all come in handy. Usually I have one character attacking the drake, say an assassin, a monk or a necro, one character handing out healing potions, and one character either using scrolls or acting a secondary attacker. It's hard to suggest without knowing your party, but basically focus on making your party strong and what abilities complement each other, for example, using the assassin's crytical hits and sneak attack, or the monk's iron skin, multiple attacks and unarmed. Dont' just try to go for big damage, but think in terms of tactics, try to make the drake lose and keep your own party going. Once, in an early version of entombed (and one where Jason rather over powered the drake), I defeated him by having a mage shrink the drake, grow my ogre brawler, then having the brawler continually use tackle on the drake keeping him on the ground. On another occasion, I got my wolf killed earlier on, then had my druid cast lightning thus leading to a zombie wolf on my side, who then bit the drake and rotted him to death (that was hilarious). Use everything and anything you have, scrolls, magic potions, weapons with interesting affects, and think carefully. If you just keep hitting attack attack, your bound to lose, it takes stratogy to kill the Drake. If worst comes to absolute worst, you can hear where the drake is, so go down the dungeon a few levels and then come back and deal with him with a stronger party. I've heard this is how some people deal with him, though I've never done that myself as to me dealing with the drake on level 8 where you find him is all part of the challenge of the game. Hth. Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
Hi Ishen. Some scrolls don't work, either because the scroll fails or because the enemy is resistant, the level of the scroll will give you an idea, but some enemies are specifically resistant. As I remember polymorphing the drake is either impossible or very, very unlikely sinse it would make the fight too easy. As to jobs, shamans have one of themost powerful abilities in the game, the curse ability, which will elp a lot against the drake, lightning is a good spell to use too. The problem with shamans however is that the only races who can be shamans are goblins and ogres. Ogres don't make good shamans sinse their intelligence is so low and magic damage and amount of mana is based on intelligence, while goblinns are physically not strong as a class so make sure you have some healing methods handy if you go that route. Also be careful using the tribal totem to turn into a bear sinse as I remember there was a problem with the game resetting all your character's stats after they were morphed back to their initial values, which made them very ineffective. Necros are great. just keep ice blasting the drake in the noggin, though again look for ways to weaken him too. As to buying the game, I'd recommend it, it's got a full 25 floors and twice as many jobs and races, it'll take you hours to complete just the once and if you thik the drake is bad, wait until you see some of the bosses further down. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Pizza Delivery Game
Did I say that nobody should be allowed to create an audio recording of the game? I would like for you to show me where I did. That was not my intent. I gave my opinion as to why recordings should not be produced so soon after a game comes onto the market, and that is all. I do not control what others do. I suggest, or voice my opinion on why or why not something should be done. And I do have the right to do so. Concerning your response, why don't you read more carefully and think before you attack? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Pizza Delivery Game If someone wants a recording of a game. Then if someone wants to make one let them. It may or may not have anything to do with spoilers.you get too controlling on how others want to play. why don't you let them play how they want and leave the controlling to the controllers. At 12:08 AM 10/28/2014, you wrote: I would think that it would be too early for anyone to have made a recording of the game, and I, for one, would not want to make one yet, because it is far too early for spoilers, which is one reason people want to listen to the games being played by someone. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Leo Cantos lcantos...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:42 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Jim's Pizza Delivery Game Hi, I would like to ask where I can find a recording of this game? I ask because I like to listen to the games that I get before I play them, that is probably why I loved Swamp before the whole paying thing made it's way in to the Swamp news. Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Hi Shaun, Yes, I can well remember Lindows. It was a good concept in that the developers used Linux for the base OS, and developed a commercial Windows emulator for it to run most commercial Windows applications on it. Even though it was a good idea in concept there were a number of problems with it. First, they chose to use the name Lindows, which was too close to Windows, and Microsoft sued over copyright infringement. In the end they had to drop the name and call it Linspire. The Windows emulation also was found to be a copyright violation of some kind thus although Linspire is still around the lawsuit basically stripped the OS of whatever it had going for it as an alternative to Windows. Another key factor that lead to its downfall is the fact the company tried to essentially create a commercial version of Linux. For that reason they failed to grab a significant portion of the Linux market who by and large were already running free distributions. It is hard to convince people who are running free and open source software that they should buy it because it happens to have a better Windows emulator in it. Most Linux users didn't have or use Windows software so the built-in emulator was just an unnecessary added expense that they didn't need. Alot of Windows users didn't buy it, because Windows comes prepackaged with their computer. Thus Lindows would have been an additional expense for little benefit. In short, a good idea, but one that really didn't appeal to either the Linux or Windows markets. Being sued by Microsoft only insured an early demise for the product, and relegated it to oddball status. Accessibility issues aside Lindspire, as it is known now, has a very small market share with the mainstream computer user base. As far as your points about Linux. Its true that its biggest support came out of servers and mainframes, but it has slowly but surely been creeping into the mainstream PC user base. Certain distributions like Ubuntu were designed primarily for home users, average PC users, and try to compete equally with Windows on a equal footing. While they lag behind both Windows and Mac OS in market shares Ubuntu has been gaining ground slowly, and has gotten support from companies like Del who offer it on their laptops and desktop units for home or business machines. I might point out that it isn't just the poor and helpless as you call them who use Linux, but a fair cross section of the computer base. I suppose the main group of Linux users has been and seems to be techies. People like myself who do a lot of software design, who likes modifying software, and enjoys the freedom to play with the software some while also using it on a day today basis as a solid and reliable operating system. However, while being a large group of users they are by no means the only group that matters. Another group, one suited to this discussion, is gamers. Linux actually has a number of gamers who use the OS for gaming. While the majority of those games aren't accessible for the blind and low vision gamers they are satisfactory for mainstream PC gamers who use Linux. There are a number of emulators available for Linux such as SNES9x for playing Super NES games, Stella for playing Atari 2600 games, Dosemu for playing Dos games, etc which all serve to turn Linux into a virtual console for a variety of platforms. As a result Linux is often chosen as a gaming platform because of the number of free emulators available as well as free and open source games like Flight Gear, Frets on Fire, Lin City, Freeciv, and a number of other free games which are popular with some mainstream Linux gamers. Finally, there is the home and office sort of people who want a home office type setup, but don't want to put out a lot of money to do that. As a home office solution Linux excels at that task because it is designed for any sort of business weather it is small or large. If someone doesn't want to fork over $500 or more for Microsoft Office Professional Linux offers a choice between Libre Office and Open Office which are both free. Instead of paying for Microsoft Outlook which comes with MS Office Pro or which can be purchased as a stand alone Linux comes with Evolution which is a similar product for a fraction of the cost. I could probably point out other cost savings, but the fact is if someone is equipping a home or office for business software they can and do save money by using a Linux based solution. Its not just the poor and helpless but people with legitimate business needs who use it as well. Same could be said for students. It costs a lot of money to go to college, especially if someone is paying their own way, and purchasing a lot of Windows software isn't a real option for them. I have helped college students get alternatives to Windows products without them paying a dime for the software. Things like Open Office are a god send to people who can't afford Microsoft's office suite. Just assuming Linux users are
Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction
Hi Shaun, I think you have missed my point. The word need isn't the operative word here. Its a more a matter of change is inevitable weather you want to or not. What you want or what you need is often times as changing as the technology itself. For example, right now all you want or need is a decent Windows 7 machine, with say 8 GB of RAM, and a quad core processor. Nothing wrong with that given your current circumstances. However, I foresee a day down the road where that computer dies, perhaps the capacitors on the motherboard bite the dust, and then you need to begin thinking about a replacement. Is it worth your money to try and get the old machine fixed or simply replace the hardware and software in one go? My point being your needs will change, and while you don't have a need right now I think as time goes on your needs will change and other options may seem like good options at that time. I think basing your plans of the future, on upgrading or not upgrading, based exclusively on current circumstances is very short sighted. If there is one constant in life is everything is always changing and the best person to meet that change is someone who is willing to let go of the past and move on. Cheers! On 10/26/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: and maybe thats my problem right there mate. While there is a lot of new tech coming out, there is no need for me to actually move with the times. While I do go on about my tech work, most of it is fixing systems at home, testing software and a few other things. 90% of my work is done online or at least on site. I don't usually need any complex reports to do so I don't even have an updated or legal coppy of office which is not 10 years old. As a result of this and the fact most stuff is via email or sms I don't even have a phone that needs to be even half as updated as I do. in fact if things didn't get insecure I could continue with win98 or even dos quite happily. well maybe not win 98 or dos but sertainly win2000 or xp. For the work I do offsite and its not much, i use the device thats there. My upgrades are usually performance, security to the minimal specs or because its required. Which was why I didn't upgrade jaws, though if I went to work jaws is what is expected for business so I'd have to keep that updated. yunger people are using braille dvices and other things, but with what I do right now, I really don't need that much. Ofcause as I build myself up here and online as a self employed contracter for sound, testing and a little bit of lite hacking and other tests that may become something I can afford/ need, however I doubt I will ever upgrade unnecessarily. Even if I have the cash which I don't. I am also in my 30s, if I had the cash who knows. The only thing I really want is a quad core with maybe 8-16gb ram, win 7 x64 and the ability to have hardware vertualisation so I could run vertual machines, heck maybe a linux or apple machine to but to be honest I only upgrade what I need. A friend just gave me their c005 nokia, and while its a bit stupid to get talks for that now eventually I may end up doing just that. I have not been as exposed to the fullness of the newer stuf as others have or have needed to move as fast as most have had to. in fact if security was not a major concern I could have stayed in the mud and not given a stiff such is the nature of my current project based work. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audio Defence: Zombie Arena, soon going to be released
October 28th, 2014 We are really proud to announce that we are soon going to release our new game: Audio Defence: Zombie Arena It has all the cool stuff you'd want in a zombie game, but is quite unlike anything you've ever played before. Unless you played our last game Papa Sangre II, which was Metacritic's iOS game of the year 2013 (and had Sean Bean doing voice over). We see it as the quicker, dirtier successor to Papa Sangre II. We've kept the horror and immersion, but chucked out almost everything else in favour of SPEED AND FURY so you can just pick up and play. You are the Blind Warrior, trapped in Dr Bastard's arenas, forced to fight off wave after wave of his zombies. As you progress you'll need to master the Pistol, the Sawn-off Shotgun, the Hunting Rifle, the Machine Gun, the Bazooka, the Grenade Launcher and the Sonic Cannon, among others. If the zombies get too close you'll have to resort to a range of melee weapons . a Wok, a Banjo, some Golf Clubs, a Cattle Prod and a Claymore. Reassuring? It will be quite unlike any zombie game you've played before. The zombies and playing environment are all rendered in high fidelity binaural sound. There are no graphics to represent them. You can only hear them, which is why gameplay is so immersive. Because the sound is binaural (3D audio), using only ordinary headphones you actually hear the zombies in the world all around you, and you are situated right in the middle of the game. It's like AR* for the EAR. Oculus thrift. This game has no In App Purchase - everything you need to complete the game, is available within the game itself. How long will you survive? That is up to you and your aural shooting skills. Did we mention that the evil Dr Bastard will do anything in his power to entertain its crowd, even if it means throwing you to the mercy of lurching zombies? We are a few days away from release now.. your patience will be reward Blind Warrior. Here is a List of the Zombies in the game: Classic Zombie The show is called 'Dr. Bastard's Zombie Arena', so he has to deliver some classic zombies. That means the slow, feet-shuffling kind. They can take a couple of bullets more than a Reject, but are easily beaten if they come alone. Berserk A formidable Zombie you don't want to mess with. The Berserk is a blind zombie who looks for his prey by sniffing around. If you don't shoot him, he will go away in a few seconds. A single bullet that hits him will cause him to go into a frenzy and charge towards you very fast, and be warned: he can take a lot of bullets! Chainsaw The crowd's favourite. This crazy undead is smart enough not only to wield a chainsaw, but also to run at you moving sideways. You want to keep your ears on him, ready to notice which direction he's turning, to make sure your bullets keep hitting him! Clown Dr. Bastard likes to dress his craziest zombies as clowns. He likes to give them rusty knives, too. The Clown's main mission is to annoy the Blind Warrior running in circles around you, but don't let that fool you. Clowns slowly close in and will eventually attack if left alive for too long! Colossus Dr. Bastard's masterpiece, a gigantic zombie so big its tiny brain can only handle two motor skills: walking towards the closest human and smashing the closest human with a massive club it carries. The Colossus is the toughest zombie you'll ever meet. If you don't focus on it the moment it appears, you won't have enough time to sink enough bullets into it to down it. Farty As a fan of old action movies, Dr. Bastard likes explosions on his show. So he filled some of his zombies with obnoxious amounts of methane gas, to the point that these zombies are inflated like ballons. Unfortunately, there's no way to keep al the gas inside their bodies, and so they leak it out in the form of burps and farts. Which is why Dr. Bastard thought it would be HILARIOUS to call them 'Farties'. When a farty gets shot a few times, the gas will ignite and generate a huge explosion, which can take down nearby zombies. If it explodes near you, however, it will deafen you for a few seconds, so watch out! Hulk The Hulk is a regular zombie injected with an overdose of adrenaline, testosterone and quinoa. It's fast and it can take a beating. Reject Dr. Bastard is always trying to create the ultimate super-zombie. Thank goodness that hasn't happened yet. Instead, most of Dr. Bastard's experiments end up being a poor mess of undead flesh barely held together. Once it's clear the experiment is a failure, these Rejects end up as cannon fodder for the next show. They're slow and stupid, but usually come in great numbers and can overwhelm even the most proficient zombie fighter. Riot Gear Riot Gear Zombies are, well, dressed in full riot gear, complete with a thick metal shield. Shoot them once and they will stop and hide behind their shield for a few seconds. They'll be invincible while
Re: [Audyssey] the raspberry pie
I subscribe to the Raspberry VI mailing list which you're welcome to join at http://www.freelists.org/archives/raspberry-vi and, as operating-system accessibility goes, you can read the entire log at http://www.raspberryvi.org/accessibility-progress That said, this is assuming that the operating system is exposed to the user via an accessible interface and that you're trying to use it as a general-purpose operating system. My suggestion was that it be treated as a console, booting directly into the game which would manage the entire interface. For that, audio should work just fine. -tim On 2014-10-28 16:09, shaun everiss wrote: I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago now but there are various issues with the pie at the time of freading which was at the end of last year beginning of this. The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version makes things access wize break. Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can only process one sound or image at once not both. The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you need to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. you also need an eduino to program it aparently. It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things but as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time I read the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure since then. At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB game-pad. Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're right into the game. The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide for networked games. The common hardware along with the included Linux system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same experience for everyone. Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that game launched. Just throwing ideas out on the table... -tim On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you flash onto your console and once flashed, the console is accessible with accessible games you can buy from between $5 and $20 or so. I would love that! On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello Josh, Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. More and more console games are being modded and customized than you might think. Cheers! On 10/26/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a console. you cannot make game mods. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the
[Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
Hi, I have put a new file up on my site. File name: winpd2.exe File size 8.4 meg. In version 2 I fixed 2 small bugs, added a bit more spoken information and 40 new sound files. Pizza Delivery Earn tips and promotions delivering delicious pizzas from the Pizza Kitchen. The faster you get the pizza to the customer the bigger the tip. The speed limit is always 35. There are three roads that the police never patrol. However there are also stationary things that will cost you time, such as railroad crossings, speed traps and hospital zones. And there are random events that when they pop up will also cost you time. The layout of the city is, Center runs east to west. East from fifty first avenue to first avenue, then west from first street to fifty first street. North of Center the names are names of trees in alphabetical order from Apple to Willow. South of Center they are names of automobile manufactures in alphabetical order from Buick to Volkswagon. Special key instructions f1 repeat the pizza delivery order f2 speak game time f3 speak the amount of time of the current delivery trip f4 repeat the lay out of the city f5 toggle the vehicle rev sound f6 speak real world time To uninstall Pizza Delivery run the uninpizz.bat file. The winpd2.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a polite request.
Hi Dark, Yeah, the polymorphing abilities for me have always been irritating. The ratkin are almost totally unplayable because of the fact that their stats never get reset correctly after they revert back to their normal form. As for the scrolls, I never understood some of those. I understand that without the gather departed souls, the ray of destruction scroll might not work, but then the question becomes why even include them? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a polite request. Hi Ishen. Some scrolls don't work, either because the scroll fails or because the enemy is resistant, the level of the scroll will give you an idea, but some enemies are specifically resistant. As I remember polymorphing the drake is either impossible or very, very unlikely sinse it would make the fight too easy. As to jobs, shamans have one of themost powerful abilities in the game, the curse ability, which will elp a lot against the drake, lightning is a good spell to use too. The problem with shamans however is that the only races who can be shamans are goblins and ogres. Ogres don't make good shamans sinse their intelligence is so low and magic damage and amount of mana is based on intelligence, while goblinns are physically not strong as a class so make sure you have some healing methods handy if you go that route. Also be careful using the tribal totem to turn into a bear sinse as I remember there was a problem with the game resetting all your character's stats after they were morphed back to their initial values, which made them very ineffective. Necros are great. just keep ice blasting the drake in the noggin, though again look for ways to weaken him too. As to buying the game, I'd recommend it, it's got a full 25 floors and twice as many jobs and races, it'll take you hours to complete just the once and if you thik the drake is bad, wait until you see some of the bosses further down. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech
I'm not a moderator, but I do think I remember Thomas politely asking that this topic be closed. I just thought I'd bring that up. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards, was Throwaway Tech my issue is with braille devices even if you are able to afford them to get one serviced heck to get any tech serviced especially accss tech like braille devices costs a lot and may entale getting another device. At 02:13 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: I guess if you want a braille display or embosser you have to buy one on ebay and hope that it works. On 10/26/2014 7:18 PM, tim wrote: If it wasn't for these so called machine doing the reading. Than thousands of books wouldn't be available for those to read even if you know brail. Because not all books are transferred to brail and not all readers have access to those books. That is why these machines do brail translation for those that want them.. At 05:30 PM 10/26/2014, you wrote: Hi Charlse. We have had the Braille vs screen reader debate before and I still disagree, if a person is listening to an audio book that is still reading if you ask me. likewise, if a person in the future writes a book vvia dictation that's still writing. It's content that matters. Is a great sheff today any the less of a sheff because they do not cut sticks, lay a fire, use a refrigerator, need to turn a spit, use a bellows to keep the fire going or anyth of the other things which in the past were necessary to cook? Heck no. If they are a great sheff we judge them by what they produce, not how they produce it. For me, a far greater concern is the standardization of methods of production and disemination which could influence creativity. In the same way as a sheff who only had access to tinned goods would not be as good a sheff as a sheff who could put their own individual stamp on fresh ingredience, I am concerned that kitbox creation methods and standardization (not to mention need to appeal to an increasingly small number of corporations which is a hole other debate), might have an adverse affect on creativity. If for example the dictation software couldn't handle fantasy names, or unusual punctuation that could be a major creative issue. That is why I personally believe written language and letters will continue sinse use of letters and punctuation allows the greatest diversity in creation, whether that's writing, coding or whatever, and why, while I don't agree about braille, I do not like the idea of everyone devolving into text speak sinse limitation of language also involves limitation of thought. I also get concerned over tools like madlibs, rhyming dictionary programs or synonym creators, and (to bring this back to games), if game creation became too limited. For example if the only thing on offer was customizations of console games based on choice, eg, creating a character by selecting from a huge bunch of elements, rather than allowing a platform where people could program their own games, or even create their own elements in a scripting language. Whether in the future the letters are typed, brailled, written with a pen, or selected from some sort of efficient on screen keyboard doesn't seem to matter to me, same with programming so long as the choice still exists and the end product can be as individualized. Ironically, a friend of mine who is a student of literature said people actually thought the same of the printing press. The arguement was if copies of a book could be instantly created by printing rather than painstakingly copied out by hand, this made the book less valuable and encouraged laziness on the part of the authors, as well as devaluing of the book on the part of the reader. Indeed apparently some holy orders forbade religious books to be printed, and the gutenberg Bible was actually banned in some parts of Europe. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Defence: Zombie Arena, soon going to be released
Hi Phil, Thanks for posting this info. Boy, am I looking forward to playing this game! There are certainly a lot more zombies to tackle than we were given with “Sixth Sense”, that’s for sure. Sent from my iMac On 29 Oct 2014, at 4:31 am, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: October 28th, 2014 We are really proud to announce that we are soon going to release our new game: Audio Defence: Zombie Arena It has all the cool stuff you'd want in a zombie game, but is quite unlike anything you've ever played before. Unless you played our last game Papa Sangre II, which was Metacritic's iOS game of the year 2013 (and had Sean Bean doing voice over). We see it as the quicker, dirtier successor to Papa Sangre II. We've kept the horror and immersion, but chucked out almost everything else in favour of SPEED AND FURY so you can just pick up and play. You are the Blind Warrior, trapped in Dr Bastard's arenas, forced to fight off wave after wave of his zombies. As you progress you'll need to master the Pistol, the Sawn-off Shotgun, the Hunting Rifle, the Machine Gun, the Bazooka, the Grenade Launcher and the Sonic Cannon, among others. If the zombies get too close you'll have to resort to a range of melee weapons . a Wok, a Banjo, some Golf Clubs, a Cattle Prod and a Claymore. Reassuring? It will be quite unlike any zombie game you've played before. The zombies and playing environment are all rendered in high fidelity binaural sound. There are no graphics to represent them. You can only hear them, which is why gameplay is so immersive. Because the sound is binaural (3D audio), using only ordinary headphones you actually hear the zombies in the world all around you, and you are situated right in the middle of the game. It's like AR* for the EAR. Oculus thrift. This game has no In App Purchase - everything you need to complete the game, is available within the game itself. How long will you survive? That is up to you and your aural shooting skills. Did we mention that the evil Dr Bastard will do anything in his power to entertain its crowd, even if it means throwing you to the mercy of lurching zombies? We are a few days away from release now.. your patience will be reward Blind Warrior. Here is a List of the Zombies in the game: Classic Zombie The show is called 'Dr. Bastard's Zombie Arena', so he has to deliver some classic zombies. That means the slow, feet-shuffling kind. They can take a couple of bullets more than a Reject, but are easily beaten if they come alone. Berserk A formidable Zombie you don't want to mess with. The Berserk is a blind zombie who looks for his prey by sniffing around. If you don't shoot him, he will go away in a few seconds. A single bullet that hits him will cause him to go into a frenzy and charge towards you very fast, and be warned: he can take a lot of bullets! Chainsaw The crowd's favourite. This crazy undead is smart enough not only to wield a chainsaw, but also to run at you moving sideways. You want to keep your ears on him, ready to notice which direction he's turning, to make sure your bullets keep hitting him! Clown Dr. Bastard likes to dress his craziest zombies as clowns. He likes to give them rusty knives, too. The Clown's main mission is to annoy the Blind Warrior running in circles around you, but don't let that fool you. Clowns slowly close in and will eventually attack if left alive for too long! Colossus Dr. Bastard's masterpiece, a gigantic zombie so big its tiny brain can only handle two motor skills: walking towards the closest human and smashing the closest human with a massive club it carries. The Colossus is the toughest zombie you'll ever meet. If you don't focus on it the moment it appears, you won't have enough time to sink enough bullets into it to down it. Farty As a fan of old action movies, Dr. Bastard likes explosions on his show. So he filled some of his zombies with obnoxious amounts of methane gas, to the point that these zombies are inflated like ballons. Unfortunately, there's no way to keep al the gas inside their bodies, and so they leak it out in the form of burps and farts. Which is why Dr. Bastard thought it would be HILARIOUS to call them 'Farties'. When a farty gets shot a few times, the gas will ignite and generate a huge explosion, which can take down nearby zombies. If it explodes near you, however, it will deafen you for a few seconds, so watch out! Hulk The Hulk is a regular zombie injected with an overdose of adrenaline, testosterone and quinoa. It's fast and it can take a beating. Reject Dr. Bastard is always trying to create the ultimate super-zombie. Thank goodness that hasn't happened yet. Instead, most of Dr. Bastard's experiments end up being a poor mess of undead flesh barely held together. Once it's clear the experiment is a failure, these Rejects end up as cannon fodder
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
i think the game should have a check for update feature On 10/29/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
I just wish I could find some of these shortcuts LOL. Or that the speed limit was a little higher. It's pretty depressing to get a two-cent tip. LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Austin Pinto Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery i think the game should have a check for update feature On 10/29/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
In my opinion, there is no need for an update feature, because Jim always alerts us to any updates to any of his games, which I greatly appreciate. All we have to do is to got the updated file, unzip it into the folder, and play. The new file overwrites the old. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery i think the game should have a check for update feature On 10/29/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
yes the speed limit should be more higher and the speed of the thing that v drive should be higher is there any cheet code to up the speed? On 10/29/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: In my opinion, there is no need for an update feature, because Jim always alerts us to any updates to any of his games, which I greatly appreciate. All we have to do is to got the updated file, unzip it into the folder, and play. The new file overwrites the old. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery i think the game should have a check for update feature On 10/29/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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also in which folder is the games saved i mean after playing when we quit for the day it says saved game whare does it save On 10/29/14, Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote: yes the speed limit should be more higher and the speed of the thing that v drive should be higher is there any cheet code to up the speed? On 10/29/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: In my opinion, there is no need for an update feature, because Jim always alerts us to any updates to any of his games, which I greatly appreciate. All we have to do is to got the updated file, unzip it into the folder, and play. The new file overwrites the old. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery i think the game should have a check for update feature On 10/29/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery
When has Jim ever included cheat codes in his games? Never. I actually like this. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Austin Pinto Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery yes the speed limit should be more higher and the speed of the thing that v drive should be higher is there any cheet code to up the speed? On 10/29/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: In my opinion, there is no need for an update feature, because Jim always alerts us to any updates to any of his games, which I greatly appreciate. All we have to do is to got the updated file, unzip it into the folder, and play. The new file overwrites the old. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery i think the game should have a check for update feature On 10/29/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: There goes my promotion LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:29 AM To: Ron Schamerhorn Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery Hi Ron, Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you like my Pizza Delivery game. Now you've got to go and get version 2. grin You do not need to delete version 1, version 2 should over write version 1. But if you have a saved game, the pizza count will not be correct. It won't hurt, it just won't be correct. Thanks again. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 36 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
