Re: [Audyssey] Any Soccer games for the blind that are free
Hi Charles, Have you tried The Savage Gambit, I can't find it anywhere and I never tried it properly. What do you think about it? I think that Vipgameszone has the right concept, but the wrong idea of super tennis. For harder levels, instead of multiple balls, just make one ball bounce less, maybe would also be fun to have long lob shots as well, an cool Brit umpire with propper tennis scoring, more realistic sound effects, maybe courts with different surfaces that would play differently, different players you could play against and of course multiplayer. For most of their sports games, it is like this, the interface for me for a sports game is really uninspiring, borring robotic voice, five levels of difficulty, too much of a rulebook rigidity about what you have to do in a certain situation, example with tennis and football when a certain player has the ball you have to do a certain thing, you can't play flexibly. Even though sport for me is the best type of game in the world, somehow I just wasn't really at all too excited about vipgameszones. Super Volleyball was good, but I could even beat it on hard, which is a miracle if you look at my record of games on higher difficulty levels. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Accessible self-defence
Hi all, This might be off-topic, but I just don't know where to ask and it's sort of a question of having fun or entertainment for blind people. I'd like to know are Tai Chi and karate accessible for blind people? I know blindys can do Judo, but what other martial arts courses have any totally blindys done and did any adaptation need to be made considering you were practicing with sighted persons, like did the teacher come round and demonstrate the moves? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible self-defence
Hi Dakotah, Thanks for that, wow you've done a lotin that field. This I think is the main question, because unfortunately there's quite a bit of crime in SA, it would be helpful to learn self-defence, but I know the whole punching and kicking thing is impractical to blind people, but I've always wondered if a person were to try and attack you in real life, what's the best form of doing self-defence fight back. I was wondering this after reading a post about a blind guy who was basically assaulted and slapped, kicked and slapped in the street, when someone's trying to kick you and you don't really know from where they're coming, what's the best SD techniques or form of SD to learn for a blindy in open combat. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] speak and spell and speak and math.
Hi Thomas, What would be fun for you to develop for young blind kids is a game I used to play, my mom had to read the screen, but it was called Maths Blaster. There were different Maths puzzles, multiply, add, subtract, divide, rounding off, fractions, etc, but the fun part was also the games. Example, there was one when you answer a sum right, you help a little man build his space ship to fly in, and at the end you'd hear the man walk to the ship and the ship fly away, you'd also get a certificate, gold for perfect answers, less colours for less answers. Then there were other games where, when you answered enough sums you'd run around a board eating doghnuts not trying to be caught by a baddy, and one where rubbish would fly accross the screen and you'd have to shoot it. Maths and spelling games must be made fun for kids, bril sound effects etc, and instead of letting them use JAWS to read it, use fun entertaining voices like cartoons. If you could exhibit it at conferences, I don't see why schools and stuff wouldn't buy it, but maybe it would be a good idea to develop it with the help of teachers who can divide up what kids of different ages would know. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Winboard question
Hi all, I've tried Winboard in the past, but I'd like to know is there a way that I can change the difficulty, the level at which it plays is still too hard for me? I've tried reading help, and there's a lot of stuff there about chess engines, but I don't really understand what it's trying to say, do I need these engines to be able to change difficulty, from where do I get them and how do I install them? Happy new year also from South Africa, it's already 11 in the morning, but there's apparrently still a place in the world, I think it's Samoa which is still going to celebrate it's year, I think they're a full 24 hours behind the first place that celebrated, is this true? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Wonderful Service
Hi guys, With some game developers not answering emails, or maybe not giving great support, I just want to, as a buyer, highlight the excellent service over the past few days I got from7128. As you guys know my internet was giving me problems, but when it came back again I thought everything was fine. I ordered the Gamebook, but, for some reason, when I tried to download it, the page loaded slowly and it couldn't be displayed. After trying, I got a message that I'd downloaded the GB too many times, but I was puzzled, because some sites were downloading, but others weren't, but I didn't know this, so I sent an email asking for a new link. This link came, but again I couldn't download again. I emailed again, and John put a link up again for me, but again it wouldn't work. I still don't know where the problem was lying, but my brother said he could download it at his work. He did, the file works, and I'm now a very happy player of the games. It's great to see developers giving good service like this. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] puzzles, Vol 22, Issue 127
I'd love to see an accessible DR Kawashima's Brain Training and Tetris, am really so disappointed about the Mithril and Klango thing! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with playing superliam demo
Hi Claudio, There are a few people on here who do know German, so it's OK to post it. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Good Christmas presents?
Hi Raul, Yes, I have a good collection of stuff, but I want those puzzles and brain teasers that you can play on your own. My problem is that we just have toy stores who sell these, and my parents don't really know what's cool for a blind student, or where to find it. Could you tell me like what type of puzzles you have, or how they work? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Good Christmas presents?
Good suggestions, Charles. I once tried, I think it was called Alexandra Talking Chess Computer, found it a bit unusable, didn't like it though. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Loquendo voices was Quick question
Where's the page to hear these. With JAWS I get to a lot of on mouse over but when I press enter, nothing happens, how do I use those things with JAWS, or what link must I click on? Ari - Original Message - From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Loquendo voices was Quick question Yeah, but I went on the demo page where you could type in what you want and hear the results. Their demo says, Just imagine it! with an exclamation point, and, sure enough, if you type it that way it sounds like a really excited person. If, however, you type Imagine that! it is said with typical intonation. I tried a few other phrases and the same thing holds true, so I think that only key phrases can be made to be expressed that way. It can laugh, cry, cough, yawn and sneeze though--but it'd be cheaper and sound better to get someone to do an actual voice over. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Loquendo voices was Quick question Unlike most other voices, the Loquendo voices can actually sound like they mean what they say. I heard one of them laugh (yes folks, actually laugh). It can express emotions far better than any other I've heard. This morning I heard a demo of two of the voices talking to one another. Let's just say the emotions expressed sounded far more natural than any other supposedly natural voice. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Loquendo voices was Quick question Hi. What can these loquendo voices do that is so cool I mean, they sound neat, but what'd be the advantage of these over, say, att? On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:40:29 +0100, Talksina Phil wrote: hi, I know the Loquendo voices here in Italy cost 260 euro each one Italian voice, at least I don't know if foreign voices can be ordered too. I know, once, there were some illegal distributions of loquendo but, as they were built using a modified version of loquendo embedded, they were not fully functional that is no expression tags, less phonemes, etc. So, as for me it made no sense to get illegal products, with the risk of not having all function and especially of getting involved in a crime matter, I just said no thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
[Audyssey] default game voices
Hi, That tip Tom gave me about making a voice the windows default voice, how do I make it detect or redetect voices? What I mean is, with JAWS I've got eloquence voices, and I've also got some L and H voices, but they don't show up in the voice lists, is there a way to make an Eloquence voice a default Windows voice? Also, does anyone know, you can email offlist if not interesting to other people, but from where can I get more free voices, like those Festival ones, can they be used in windows? There are many synthesizers, like Mary, but are they Sappi 5 compatible or can they be used? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] default game voices
But, I'm not sure how, the Espeak synthesizer that comes with NVDA, I've heard that you can somehow install female voices for it. You can even have Scottish English accent! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] default game voices
Hi Tom, When I was talking about Mary, I meant this other one at the link below, is there a way to make it your default voice? http://mary.dfki.de/ Also, do you perhaps know how, using the Espeak Windows Install, it can install female voices and all the languages, as, when I install, it doesn't install all voices. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Good Christmas presents?
Hi all, OK, here's the rundown, I've looked at RNIB, I've looked at Independent Living Aids, and, just to really, really make sure, I've looked at SANCB, but I really don't like anything, nothing new. What I want is maybe a puzzle or fun thing that, for someone who doesn't want to sit by the PC, will entertain that person. If it's a puzzle, it must be something that, first, can be done on a person's own, a one-player thing, and it would be cool if you can do things with it afterwards, or make different shapes, I don't want to import something that a person completes one time and that's it, it must be sort of entertainming or stimulating for long time. I still find it rubbish that nearly all the board games sold at these places are two-player or more, and even then, we haven't had anything new for years, actually it's getting less! I remember when you could still get a braille cludo, and a braille rubix cube type thing, but even these have disappeared. I do like the balls though, not a bad idea, but I really wish we'd see some new stuff! Oh yes, there's also a digital talking skipping rope at www.cobolt.co.uk but don't ask me what it tells you, a talking skipping rope? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] New things I'd like to see
OK, Just for fun, expanding on the games and Christmas thing, here's some new fun products I'd like to see developed for blindys. Electronic Trivial Persuit machine: This little machine holds thousands of trivia from different subjects, and it comes with a modified board and counters. Every year, a downloadable update is released so as to keep up with new sighted editions of the game. Electronic Thirty Seconds: Nearly the same, see above. Blind cricket bowling machine: now, at last, like the sighted have been doing for years, a modified bowling machine for blind cricket? (differnce is that in blind cricket, ball is thrown underarm, that's why sighted machine can't be used.) Driving course and car for the blind!: This new device is an actual car simulator. This device includes a course, showing you how to change through all the gears, turning the steering wheel in exact relation to degree turns, etc. When you've passed course, you drive on simulated roads, with car shaking and moving exactly how you drive, even making you feel your driving speed, are you the calm, wonderful driver, or will you drive like a mad man, cutting in front of cars and getting involved in accidents, when you're involved in an accident, the simulator ejects you far into the air! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Text adventure games
Hi Catherine, First, curious, but are you the same Catherine from the access-uk list? OK, about text adventures. Time's Ashes is at the Interactive Fiction archive, you go to the /starters page, the file ashes.exe http://www.ifarchive.org/ There's also many compilations of new text adventures now, when you go to the /ganes directory, you can download packages of entries for the IF competitions, including interpreters. Some games I've enjoyed playing use a new interpreter called Alan, one is called Coming Out Of The Closet by Mikko Voreunen, a one-location, very fun one. There are also other cool sites with ta's like Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy, Humbug, etc. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] handheld games
Hi Shaun, There are some wap games which are accessible wap.kalador.com, click on home, then on games, and wap.worddial.com Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Good Christmas presents?
Hi Thomas, That's exactly the problem! There's really not much fun stuff for a blind person when away from the PC. All my friends are complaining that that's all they get from sighted people for Christmas, iether music, clothing or audio books, and let's face it, for me at least I can only listen to a book once, and music you can't interact with! This one girl at uni with me always says that making lots of money isn't as much fun for a blindy, grin, because you can't go and buy fast cars or fun gadgets that are totally accessible! I even look at myself and can't really decide what's cool for Christmas that I'd really like that isn't computer related. I've always been blind, so am not fascinated by colours, fashion or clothing. You could probably buy something if you like outdoor activities like camping or playing music or that stuff, but I can't remember when last I've been able to get something fun that I don't use with the PC. The problem is doing the looking around, I mean, do you go to toy shops, and then, how do you explain to the people exactly what you're looking for? You even look at the blogs for blindies that suggest Christmas presents and they're all suggesting these borring, practical things like daisy book players or a JAWS SMA, the accessible fun topic is really always out of focus. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
One thing I can't stand about this whole screenreader thing is doing the change. I use JAWS at home, the uni to which I'm transferring uses WE, so this holiday I've been busy reading the mannual and having to learn WE. Why isn't there some quick document or something that makes moving from the one to the other easier! The funny thing is that both companies say their keystrokes are the most logical, like in Word, to hear the atributes of a document, you do insert f, probably for format or font or something, and then with WE you do ctrl shift s, probably for style or something? I really could have had something better to do this holiday, crying! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
And while everyone's at it, throw some big, Hal-using lads into the battle, charge! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
Brandon, cool! What other funny stuff can be done to make JAWS and synthesizer do that? It was sort of going lower, like spinning! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Marketing Research was A Real Casino Game
Grin, hi Thomas, got our wires crossed, I meant the developing world as in less developed countries, grin! Ari - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Marketing Research was A Real Casino Game Hi Ari, Quote Thinking about who buys games, Thomas, I know this might sound like a weird question, but I'm often quite interested as to how many blind people from the developing world buy accessible games, or if some schools have bought some for the pupils to play. End quote Well, seeing as Montezuma's Return has only been on pre-order for a week any information I could supply at this point may not totally be accurate marketing research material. In the week Montezuma's Return has been on sale I have only shipped keys to two developers. one was on pre-order already from Alchemy and the other made a purchase a couple days into the USA Games pre-order program. So based on my current findings not many, but it is honestly too early to tell. As for me personally, I am a developer, and I have purchased a handful of games from our fellow accessible games developers. I have purchased Sarah from Phil, Monkey Business from Draconis, Troopenum from BSC, I got Rail Racer from Che, and all of the GMA Games titles. Perhaps that isn't a large selection of games I have purchased, but it is a few I liked and thought would be good to own and play. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Terraformers Question
Hi Shaun, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing you can't pick up the sound flower? So these three tones on the flower are for the three wheels? Thanks Ari - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Terraformers Question there is a sound flower. listen to the tone, one tone is low one medium one high. You probably should be able to figure out what you need to turn, iits a bit confusing but you can do it. At 12:35 a.m. 16/12/2007, you wrote: Hi guys, Now that I can hear the wheels, I can play TF, but my problem is already on the first level, the one just after the training. I walk to this place near the beginning where there are three tone wheels, and three doors. I turn the wheels to the highest tone, like in the training, but when I try and go to any of the doors, all of them are still locked, what am I doing wrong? Also, is there a way to make your power suite last a bit longer without having to recharge it, because while I'm trying to solve the tone wheel problem, I'm always having to go right back to this powerup station. Actually, come to think of it, do any of those tone wheels actually open any of those three doors? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Duck Hunt
There's a huge leep between round 17 and 18. On round 17, I get a perfect round, but then on 18, I only managed to hit 1 duck! Liam, is there a way I can start from round 18, even if I have a score of 0, I just don't like always having to work upwards like that. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Quick question
I also want the answer, so please write on-list Phil.
Ari
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Subject: [Audyssey] Quick question
Hi all,
First of all this question isn't entirely off topic. It actually has to
do with some of the voices Phil used in the Sarah game. I seem to remember
him saying a while back that he used some of the Loquendo voices for some
of the statues and suits of armor found throughout the castle. I was
wondering, Phil, where you got them and how much they tend to cost? I've
looked on the Loquendo web site and they don't seem to have any
information about pricing. I'm curious because not only would they make
great screen reader voices, but if I start developing my own games I might
very well choose to use some of the Loquendo voices myself. They seem by
far to be the most versatile synthetic voices out there seeing as you can
actually make them express different emotions. I've never heard a synthe
laugh so convincingly {smile}. But to avoid cluttering up the list with
what some wil doubtless consider off topic traffic, write me off list if
you can, anybody. I'd appreciate any insight into this matter.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Re: [Audyssey] unfinishable games was Duck Hunt
I don't want to think what 20 is like, what's it like Thomas? You'd probably just pressing space from the beginning or something? If I'm not wrong, isn't Sonic Invaders also unfinishable? What games in our accessible community are definitely impossible to finish? With these games that become too fast, you actually wonder, you think to yourself, if only I could finish this level, surely the developer wants me to finish this now? Ari Ari - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Duck Hunt Hi, It's not impossible to get passed 19, but pretty darn hard. Let's just say it is a level made for those who really really want a challenge. Liam Erven wrote: correct. the game is unfinishable. my understanding is that it's impossible to get past round 19, but I'm not sure as I haven't spent enough time to try. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Songs about gaming, a bit of fun
Hi guys, Here's a bit of fun which I hope is on-topic. I was reading the Wikipedia article on Space Invaders, when they talked about bands mentioning it in there songs. Other famous games mentioned in songs is of course the song by The Who with the deaf, dumb and blind kid who could play a mean pinball, and here are the Space Invader songs, anyone know of other pop songs featuring games in? . In 1978 , a punk group.Hostage from the small Scottish town Campbeltown made a demo called Space Invader Wizard the lyrics tell what it is like to be a Space Invaders addict Staring into the light trying to find yourself, but it's only a reflection of somebody else. Lyrics by Morris Shaw music by David and Fraser Shaw [2] . In 1979 , an obscure group of Australian performers calling themselves Player One released a song entitled Space Invaders, using sound effects from the game. Player One put out an obscure album called Game Over, but the song can also be found on a few 1980s collections albums, including one of the period called Full Boar. It was also released as a 7 record in Australia only, backed with a second possibly-related song entitled A Menacing Glow in the Sky. . In 1980 , a Cleveland, Ohio DJ named Victor Blecman (aka Uncle Vic) released another song entitled Space Invaders, which likewise included sound effects from the game, ending with the lyrics speeding up faster and faster until the invaders crash down at the end. This song was only released as a single, and these days can mainly be found in novelty collections, for example Dr. Demento 's album Dr. Demento's Mementos. . In 1980, the American/British band The Pretenders recorded an instrumental track called Space Invader on their first album. The end of the song featured sounds of game play from the arcade game . Also in 1980, British dance troupe Hot Gossip recorded a song entitled Space Invaders (once again, with sound effects from the game). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Invaders Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Songs about gaming, a bit of fun
On Youtube you get all sorts of cool stuff, I've found Atari ads, I'm sure it's over packed with gaming videos. Ari - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Songs about gaming, a bit of fun Not really a song but on utube there is this cast about an angry gamer. This guy does all the bad things on nentendo games and how much some of them in his opinion really are uncool. He also finds ways to destroy the game cartrages afterwards. One thing though is that this cast is full of swearwords so olderpeople over 18 sshould listen to it only. I think there are ratings on utube not sure. This cast is real good. At 10:06 a.m. 17/12/2007, you wrote: Hi guys, Here's a bit of fun which I hope is on-topic. I was reading the Wikipedia article on Space Invaders, when they talked about bands mentioning it in there songs. Other famous games mentioned in songs is of course the song by The Who with the deaf, dumb and blind kid who could play a mean pinball, and here are the Space Invader songs, anyone know of other pop songs featuring games in? . In 1978 , a punk group.Hostage from the small Scottish town Campbeltown made a demo called Space Invader Wizard the lyrics tell what it is like to be a Space Invaders addict Staring into the light trying to find yourself, but it's only a reflection of somebody else. Lyrics by Morris Shaw music by David and Fraser Shaw [2] . In 1979 , an obscure group of Australian performers calling themselves Player One released a song entitled Space Invaders, using sound effects from the game. Player One put out an obscure album called Game Over, but the song can also be found on a few 1980s collections albums, including one of the period called Full Boar. It was also released as a 7 record in Australia only, backed with a second possibly-related song entitled A Menacing Glow in the Sky. . In 1980 , a Cleveland, Ohio DJ named Victor Blecman (aka Uncle Vic) released another song entitled Space Invaders, which likewise included sound effects from the game, ending with the lyrics speeding up faster and faster until the invaders crash down at the end. This song was only released as a single, and these days can mainly be found in novelty collections, for example Dr. Demento 's album Dr. Demento's Mementos. . In 1980, the American/British band The Pretenders recorded an instrumental track called Space Invader on their first album. The end of the song featured sounds of game play from the arcade game . Also in 1980, British dance troupe Hot Gossip recorded a song entitled Space Invaders (once again, with sound effects from the game). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Invaders Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Songs about gaming, a bit of fun
Hi Tom, I also forgot the Tamagochi song, quite a big hit! Ari - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Songs about gaming, a bit of fun Hi Ari, Quote here are the Space Invader songs, anyone know of other pop songs featuring games in them? End quote Sure. In addition to the games you listed there was a song in the 1980's Called Packman Fever, which was about Packman. In 2003 a pop singer named Yasmin K. did a pop number called Angel Of Darkness for Tomb Raider VI. I actually have the mp3 for Angel Of Darkness, and I like the song. in addition to songs about video games there are plenty of game songs out there like Hokey Poky, Limbo Rock, Locomotion, Simple Simon, etc which are games kids play as well. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge!
http://www.angelfire.com/music4/duffstuff/audyssey.html Ari - Original Message - From: Daniel Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge! how would i get a copy of that? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:05:23 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge! Hi Daniel, Also read Audyssey Magazine, that's how I got started. If you enjoy text adventures, the back issues of Audyssey really give you goodreviews. Ari - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge!Hi Damniel. Nice to meet another Uk student type bloke on this list. There is a hole load of self-voicing games available in different genres from action to sports available, everything from trivia stuff such as you'd find on Pressakey.net, to completely 3D virtual environmnet games, where you walk round a base or castle solving puzles, killing monsters etc. though not all of them are free, all have playable demos so you can get a feel for if you like the game first. for the largest and most uptodate list of audio games, check out the fantastic games and where to find them list on http://www.pcsgames.net/ then, there are quite a few websites and other places that provide games which you'd be able to play with Jaws. You might particularly like these sorts of things if your an Rpg fan. For a very nice list see the games to play online page at http://www.whitestick.co.uk/ongames.html Then, there are also some fantasy gamebooks wich you might like, and could read with jaws. These are short rp type adventures where you progress through the story by choosing links on were to go next, occasionally rolling dice (often the website will take care of that for you, and if not, there's a very nice free self-voicing dice program available). you can find a list of these gamebooks on http://www.whitestick.co.uk/fantasy.html then, there are streight text adventure games (again accessible with Jaws), where you progress by typing commands such as go north take pick etc. these can also be fun, if you like puzles. to find out more see http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/IFGuide.pl?step=6c=0 there are some general lists of games which it might help you to have a look at, and try any you like the look of. personally, i recommend trying as much as poss, sinse there are a lot of games out there, and even one you don't initially like the sound of might surprise you. I could recommend some of my favourites, but I'll save that for another mail sinse this one is about to explode. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]--- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Free games, great prizes - get gaming at Gamesbox. http://www.searchgamesbox.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Hi again and Monty question
I don't know how far you've missed, but there's also a bril strategy game called Sound RTS, and apparrently there's a Mario game, but I haven't tried it. L-works has released a Duck Hunt game, really cool with the old Nintendo sounds, and we also have a Mario game apparrently, but I haven't tried it. Ari - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi again and Monty question Hello Robin! Now, you can preorder the game for only dollar 35.00. In the beta8 you can play level 1 and 6 i think. And if you talking about raceway the other usagame, this game will bee ready at 2008. There is also a new game called homer on a harley from jim kitchen. And we have a new title from x-sightinteractive called copper kallenge. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge!
Hi Thomas, What I've always wondered about games like STFC and Trek 2000, do we need a background in Star Trek, or can we just play them? If we need to understand the whole ST thing, where to go to read on it for beginners? Correct me if I'm wrong, but ST hasn't really been broadcast on the SABC, so it's probably really enthusiasts or people who saw it in other countries who know much about it here. We only got TV in 1976 I think! Ari - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge! Hi Daniel, There are several accessible game choices out here, I so happen to be an accessible game developer myself. Anyway, here is a list of some of my favorite games out there that are pretty challenging and lots of fun. 1. Rail Racer. This all new game from Blind Adrenaline Symulations allows you to drive a rail racer at speeds of 300 MPH against an art racer on several different styles of rail tracks. in this game you not only race, but must do several types of stunts such as jumping over jumps, avoid force fields, take loops, and tight curves all with good training and skill. If you are really good you can sign up to play against the best Rail Racers over the net in network game play. It is one of the most challenging and fun games out there right now if you are into motor sports. You can get Rail Racer from: http://www.blindadrenaline.com 2. GMA Tank Commander. Take command of a modern tank for some sserious combat against enemy forces. Complete six objectives including destroying inteligence bases, hunting down ammo and supply trucks, destroy a train carrying troops, and more as you lead the allies to victory. Again one of the most realistic and fun blind accessible games out there. You can get GMA Tank Commander from: http://www.gmagames.com 3. Star Trek Final Conflict. Take command of the Federation fleet as you defend the Federation from Klingons, Romulans, and Borg in this turn based combat strategy game. It's very challenging for most gamers and you can find it at my web site: http://www.usagames.us 4. Montezuma's Return. In this all new side-scroller you can take the roll of Angela Summers as she navigates Emperor Montezuma's forgotten fortress hunting for gems, gold, and other lost treasures. You must avoid or flee several traps and monsters. You can find a demo of the current test release from my web site: http://www.usagames.us 5. Sarah And the Castle Of Witchcraft and Wizardry. In this all new FPS game play Sarah, a teenage girl, as she breaks in to Hogwarts for an evening of magic making and exploration. Drop in to visit some of the characters from the Harry Potter books, avoid the caretaker, and solve lots of puzzles. You can get it from: http://www.pcsgames.net 6. Monkey Business. After Dr. Smegles lab has been robbed you must set out on an adventure to capture all the monkeys from the lab and locate all the missing teleporters. Along the way you must explore such places as the jungle, ancient Aztec temple, climb a wall of vines, navigate deadly ledges, visit a western town, and more. Finally, you must find Dr. Wobble and defeat him to complete your mission. Sorry, there is no demo, but it is truly a fun game. You can get it from: http://www.draconisentertainment.com These are just some of the games out there accessible to us, and prove to be quite challenging and are fun to play for hours. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Terraformers Question
Hi guys, Now that I can hear the wheels, I can play TF, but my problem is already on the first level, the one just after the training. I walk to this place near the beginning where there are three tone wheels, and three doors. I turn the wheels to the highest tone, like in the training, but when I try and go to any of the doors, all of them are still locked, what am I doing wrong? Also, is there a way to make your power suite last a bit longer without having to recharge it, because while I'm trying to solve the tone wheel problem, I'm always having to go right back to this powerup station. Actually, come to think of it, do any of those tone wheels actually open any of those three doors? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] (Suggestion) A Real Casino Game
Yeah, All In Play also hardly update. I remember when they were still Zform, they'd been around for quite a bit but hadn't released anything yet, my friend and I had this little joke calling them the company who are always planning to do something, because when you read there press releases in Audyssey, it was always about what they were planning to do, grin. But give them credit, if I'm not wrong, were they the first company to do the whole online multiplayer thing? I'd be quite interested to know how many subscribers they have, for me the pricing seems expensive, but I must say they did a good job as developers of marketing themselves, they did all this promotional stuf even at sighted games places and exhibiting with huge companies like Dolphin if I remember properly. Thinking about who buys games, Thomas, I know this might sound like a weird question, but I'm often quite interested as to how many blind people from the developing world buy accessible games, or if some schools have bought some for the pupils to play. I remember it was my typing teacher from grade 7 who put the text adventures on the PC at our school and encouraged us to play them after the day's lesson. Ari - Original Message - From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: [Audyssey] (Suggestion) A Real Casino Game I would like to see a real casino type game made for the blind. I used to have a game that had everything like a real Casino had, and was online as well. Yes, I know there is the ever dieing All In Play that don't even update but every 3 years if that. And Jim Casino game. I want to be able to play any type of game against the computer or online, and have either VIP as well in the game. Or is there a chance there is such a game that I'm not aware of that has all this and not even advertised? Thanks Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Lomeli Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:36 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] TREASURE Mainia Here it goes. http://www.lighttechinteractive.com I don't know if that is the current version. This is the email of Jose Lomeli. This email does not have any virus or spy ware. This email may not be coppied or reproduced in any other format. If you have any questions please email me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for reading this message. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Cullen Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:33 PM To: josh; Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] TREASURE Mainia Hi Everyone, Whats the current version of treasure mainia? I have a copy that I downloaded a while ago. Just wanted to make sure I have the current version. could someone post a link to the treasure mainia web site? Thank you everyone for any help. Regards, Steve Cullen --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com
[Audyssey] Tenpin Alley Suggestion
Hi all, Tried the demo of TP Alley, great game with cool sound effects, just a few random questions and thoughts. Can't it be possible to make computer opponents? That's the thing that puts me a bit off the game, that you need other players, also, what I'd like to know is, a bit of a dumb question, but when you've figured out how to do a strike, like on which tone to press and when to swing, if you do that all the time, are you then guaranteed strikes, like is the game sort of stuck in that respect, because it wouldn't be cool if you can bowl strikes all the time without the game losing a lot of playability. This game really could be improved by allowing tournaments, competitions where computers become harder and harder, give the game like an aim where you can, for example play against computers of varying difficulty for the World Championship, etc? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Tenpin Alley Suggestion
Cool, thanks for that, I remember there was a bowling game on Nintendo, and it was possible, for example on the first role, if you did a certain thing, I think it was two steps left and bowl at half, you used to get strike every time! Ari - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tenpin Alley Suggestion Oh no, aiming in the right spot will get you strikes most of the time, but there's always a chance that the pins won't cooperate. I've had that happen on many occasions. It's all just luck. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:20 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Tenpin Alley Suggestion Hi all, Tried the demo of TP Alley, great game with cool sound effects, just a few random questions and thoughts. Can't it be possible to make computer opponents? That's the thing that puts me a bit off the game, that you need other players, also, what I'd like to know is, a bit of a dumb question, but when you've figured out how to do a strike, like on which tone to press and when to swing, if you do that all the time, are you then guaranteed strikes, like is the game sort of stuck in that respect, because it wouldn't be cool if you can bowl strikes all the time without the game losing a lot of playability. This game really could be improved by allowing tournaments, competitions where computers become harder and harder, give the game like an aim where you can, for example play against computers of varying difficulty for the World Championship, etc? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Duck Hunt
Hi guys, Have just tried DH, really love it, especially the old sounds, more games with old sounds! Just a question, does anyone know of a way where, even if my score is 0, I could somehow start from a later round, and, I'm guessing that this game is unfinishable? Really bril, thanks so much Liam! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge!
Hi Daniel, Also read Audyssey Magazine, that's how I got started. If you enjoy text adventures, the back issues of Audyssey really give you goodreviews. Ari - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gamer wanting a challenge! Hi Damniel. Nice to meet another Uk student type bloke on this list. There is a hole load of self-voicing games available in different genres from action to sports available, everything from trivia stuff such as you'd find on Pressakey.net, to completely 3D virtual environmnet games, where you walk round a base or castle solving puzles, killing monsters etc. though not all of them are free, all have playable demos so you can get a feel for if you like the game first. for the largest and most uptodate list of audio games, check out the fantastic games and where to find them list on http://www.pcsgames.net/ then, there are quite a few websites and other places that provide games which you'd be able to play with Jaws. You might particularly like these sorts of things if your an Rpg fan. For a very nice list see the games to play online page at http://www.whitestick.co.uk/ongames.html Then, there are also some fantasy gamebooks wich you might like, and could read with jaws. These are short rp type adventures where you progress through the story by choosing links on were to go next, occasionally rolling dice (often the website will take care of that for you, and if not, there's a very nice free self-voicing dice program available). you can find a list of these gamebooks on http://www.whitestick.co.uk/fantasy.html then, there are streight text adventure games (again accessible with Jaws), where you progress by typing commands such as go north take pick etc. these can also be fun, if you like puzles. to find out more see http://www.microheaven.com/IFGuide/IFGuide.pl?step=6c=0 there are some general lists of games which it might help you to have a look at, and try any you like the look of. personally, i recommend trying as much as poss, sinse there are a lot of games out there, and even one you don't initially like the sound of might surprise you. I could recommend some of my favourites, but I'll save that for another mail sinse this one is about to explode. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Tetris game for the blind?
Hi all, Except Metris, are there any other Tetris games for the blind, especially would love one with Russian-sounding music! If not, please, please developers, an original Tetris game! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Bavisoft and Mithril games?
Hi all, First, because it's now been over a month, and after two support tickets being opened without response, I'm very sad to say Mithril are probably not interested in game development or support? I for one am very upset about this, since I'd heard how HF was so much like Tetris, I really wanted an accessible tetris-type game, but can't get it because of the Klango problems. I think it was Kelly, I just want to know if your friend also ever received Grizzly Gulch, because I was also thinking of getting Chillingham, but it's really frustrating when a person doesn't know where they stand with developers. I'm happy though that, although BSC Games hasn't been updated for a bit, they still answered in bril time to give me my Troopanum Code again, so thanks for that. Ari First, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Quest Question
Hi all, First, am quite disappointed with the Quest interpreter, it won't work with JAWS, I don't know if it's just me, but you have to let it speak like Winfrotz TTS, you can't use JAWS. Anyway, what I want to know is, can I, and if I can, how do I, then change the voice Quest uses to read the game, it uses that sappi robot voice, but there's nothing in the options to change it. For those of you who love IF, I'm recommending a cool, tricky game I've found, you play it with the Alan interpreter, it's called Closet. It's just one location, basically you're stuck in a closet and can't get out, tricky. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] .z80 files again
Hi all, I've been trying to convert .z80 files to play them again, but am still having problems. With Unquill, the thing won't convert, just tells me to try with these other parameters and suggestions, but none of them actually convert, example, I don't know if I'm doing this right, I type unquill c:\m.z80 c:\m.z5 -t5 but then I get stuff that says I should rather try -l, or -c, but none of these work. I've successfully using spconvert converted .z80 to .sna games, but can't load these with the level 9 or anyother interpreter. Maybe I should try and play a .z80 game with a dos program under the windows command line, but which emulator or interpreter to use? In short, has anyone managed to play .z80 games using a system with Windows XP and JAWS, iether through the command line or somehow else, I've tried so much with these things without success. Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Spy Games
Hi John, I like the book, hopefully get it for Christmas, but I'd like to know, are all the 7128 games playable by blind people, or are there some where you need site? Thanks Ari - Original Message - From: John Bannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Spy Games Ari, They aren't spy games, but if you like mysteries, you might try our Inspector Cyndi in Newport games. No, they aren't cutsey-poo games for little girls. The Cyndi in the game title is a Sherlock Holmes type character that gives you hints as you solve the crimes. (Actually, she's named after my girl friend, who also is the actress in the videos.) They're kind of like the game Clue, lots of clues and interesting characters. Happy Holidays, John Head Geek 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the magazine
Hi Raul, Is there a hotkey for me to do it in Outlook Express with JAWS, because I always need to go right to edit, then the find submenue, then text in this message menue, I can't do ctrl+f, because that's for forwarding. Ari - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine If you are viewing the magazine in notepad then yes, control-f will do this. If you are viewing the magazine in an html file, then your screen reader such as Window-Eyes will have it in a special msaa buffer. In Window-Eyes it's called browse mode. From within browse mode you can press control-shift-f and search for the plus signs from within browse mode. So, this is why the plus signs are there to begin with. In fact, when you do not have an thml version of a document, it's a sure way of getting from point a to point b to point c, especially with screen readers. Just takes a little know-how. Mich wrote: are you talking about the control f key? to find something or is it another key stroke? from Mich. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine Actually there is such a thing as the search command which is available in most screen readers smile. To in any case, I've been in contact with a volunteer who is willing to mark up the magazines. Once this is done, I can put them up on audysseyu.org for everyone's reading pleasure. Mich wrote: yes i like the idea of heddings my self since the idea of plus sines makes it a bit harder to find stuff. i like heddings andthen you don't have to push any other key's other then h to go tothe next hedding. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine or, even better than that, headings, because links could also be for sites in the article, so a heading you just press h right through. Ari -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the magazine
LOL, didn't see that message first! Ari - Original Message - From: Mich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine i am looking at it using oe and i am using jaws for windows 7 from Mich. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine If you are viewing the magazine in notepad then yes, control-f will do this. If you are viewing the magazine in an html file, then your screen reader such as Window-Eyes will have it in a special msaa buffer. In Window-Eyes it's called browse mode. From within browse mode you can press control-shift-f and search for the plus signs from within browse mode. So, this is why the plus signs are there to begin with. In fact, when you do not have an thml version of a document, it's a sure way of getting from point a to point b to point c, especially with screen readers. Just takes a little know-how. Mich wrote: are you talking about the control f key? to find something or is it another key stroke? from Mich. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine Actually there is such a thing as the search command which is available in most screen readers smile. To in any case, I've been in contact with a volunteer who is willing to mark up the magazines. Once this is done, I can put them up on audysseyu.org for everyone's reading pleasure. Mich wrote: yes i like the idea of heddings my self since the idea of plus sines makes it a bit harder to find stuff. i like heddings andthen you don't have to push any other key's other then h to go tothe next hedding. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine or, even better than that, headings, because links could also be for sites in the article, so a heading you just press h right through. Ari -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the magazine
Hi Ron, so does that mean there's no hotkey for this? I'll try the JAWS list. Ari - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine The control f or control shift f won't work in OE. I'd have to say that saving the email as a text file on your hard drive then using notepad or whatever program would be a better solution. Ron - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the magazine Sorry, I can't help you. Perhaps you can find out from someone who uses that screen reader on how to use it properly. Mich wrote: i am looking at it using oe and i am using jaws for windows 7 from Mich. -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Spy games
Hi all, Are there any accessible Interactive Fiction games surrounding espionage, I mean, where you as a player are a spy? In Under The Ice, you have to try and catch a spy, but do we have a James Bond? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Mafia rules
Hi all, I want to try out the Mafia game on Facebook, but the problem is, even when I read the rules on Wikipedia, I really don't understand them at all! Could anyone who knows this game explain its rules more clearly to me? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Spy games
Thanks very much dark. Ari - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Spy games spider and web by Andrew plotkin is a very good, well-written spy game, complete with gadgits, sneaking and evil interigation sequences. It's a tads game, so you'll need win tads to play it, but that shouldn't be a problem. For all the details, and the download, go to this page from Whitestic.co.uk: http://www.whitestick.co.uk/text.html Hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Spy games Hi all, Are there any accessible Interactive Fiction games surrounding espionage, I mean, where you as a player are a spy? In Under The Ice, you have to try and catch a spy, but do we have a James Bond? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1176 - Release Date: 06/12/2007 23:15 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Great news everyone! Accessible Facebook Game!
Hi Greg, Facebook is a sort of, I really don't know how to describe it, social networking type site, I don't know if you've maybe heard of Myspace? There are games on there, because developers make applications to use through Facebook. I've also tried BlackJack, no luck with it though, it says you must choose how much you want to put on the table but it says that's at the bottom-left of the screen, but there doesn't seem to be any JAWS control to do this, I can't go further with that one, it doesn't seem to use a standard web Interface. With WarBook, it actually is seeming OK, but there are numbers there which don't seem to be labelled, I'm not too sure what some of them stand for. Ari - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Great news everyone! Accessible Facebook Game! sounds interesting, I'm not on facebook but I may try one day soon. Could get more casting material. At 07:01 a.m. 29/11/2007, you wrote: Hi all, I think I've found an accessible game we can play on Facebook, it's a fantasy game with over 144000 members, it's called WarBook! You must build kingdom, form alliances, and you can fight against your friends and everything. I'd please like other interested people to add this application, and somehow get in touch with me so we can try and play this together, and discuss the accessibility. I don't know if any of you guys are on Facebook, but we should create some kind of Blind WarBook group or something to just get this going, we can discuss this on list, but I'd like to meet some of you guys on Facebook as well. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] brain training games?
Hi all, Does anyone know where I can get accessible brainy-type games from, I mean games that can improve your memory, logic puzzles, that sort of thing? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Great news everyone! Accessible Facebook Game!
Hi all, I think I've found an accessible game we can play on Facebook, it's a fantasy game with over 144000 members, it's called WarBook! You must build kingdom, form alliances, and you can fight against your friends and everything. I'd please like other interested people to add this application, and somehow get in touch with me so we can try and play this together, and discuss the accessibility. I don't know if any of you guys are on Facebook, but we should create some kind of Blind WarBook group or something to just get this going, we can discuss this on list, but I'd like to meet some of you guys on Facebook as well. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] World of Darkness
Sorry guys, have been a bit out of the loop, from where do I get World of Darkness? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] The chat
I was there and saw noone. Ari - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: [Audyssey] The chat Hi all Just was wondering if anyone is planning to attend this afternoon? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Fifa 2008
Hi guys, Really can't understand this, for me, looking at this, FIFA 2008 is just as bad as 2004 and the rest sort of. I unfortunately think nothing will again ever come close to fifa 99. You can put the sfx softer, but that puts ball and crowd softer, the crowd are very loud. When I take the base off my speakers, I can sort of hear the ball, but it's not like 99 where you could here the ball bounce and everything. I also can only tackle with the sliding tackle, since using d to tackle, I can't hear it and by the time I've realised I have tackled the guy, I've kicked the ball away, and, what's worse, when you just kick straight after you tackle, it kicks the ball towards your own goal, since the guy hasn't had time to turn round yet. Even the sliding tackle thing is rubbish, because the boos and stuff are so loud, you have to wait till a bit quieter to try and pass the ball. I also couldn't hear when I was being tackled, trying to rely on commentary saying, great defending, etc, but most of the time, I really didn't know who had the ball. I'm really quite disappointed in the game, I'm so upset that I'll probably never be able to play new fifa games properly again. My problem with 99, is that I'd really sort of worked out strategies for doing everything, and I really want to try something new. I can now beat the best times on easy, but normal and hard are a bit fast, maybe I should try again. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Fifa 2008
Hi Soren, Isn't Madden American Football? I suppose Soccer manager would rather be a management game, maybe should look for something else. I'll carry on trying this, but don't expect much. Thanks Ari - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fifa 2008 Hi Ari. It's sad to hear you don't find this game playable. What about other football games like Madden or socker Manager? Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Fifa 2008 Hi guys, Really can't understand this, for me, looking at this, FIFA 2008 is just as bad as 2004 and the rest sort of. I unfortunately think nothing will again ever come close to fifa 99. You can put the sfx softer, but that puts ball and crowd softer, the crowd are very loud. When I take the base off my speakers, I can sort of hear the ball, but it's not like 99 where you could here the ball bounce and everything. I also can only tackle with the sliding tackle, since using d to tackle, I can't hear it and by the time I've realised I have tackled the guy, I've kicked the ball away, and, what's worse, when you just kick straight after you tackle, it kicks the ball towards your own goal, since the guy hasn't had time to turn round yet. Even the sliding tackle thing is rubbish, because the boos and stuff are so loud, you have to wait till a bit quieter to try and pass the ball. I also couldn't hear when I was being tackled, trying to rely on commentary saying, great defending, etc, but most of the time, I really didn't know who had the ball. I'm really quite disappointed in the game, I'm so upset that I'll probably never be able to play new fifa games properly again. My problem with 99, is that I'd really sort of worked out strategies for doing everything, and I really want to try something new. I can now beat the best times on easy, but normal and hard are a bit fast, maybe I should try again. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Mithril games and Interactive Fiction
Hi guys, First, I hope I'm not wrong, but Mithril games now seems like a company who aren't really into audio games anymore. Why I'm saying this is, it's nearly two weeks now that they've never gotten back to me about my problems with Klango not speaking the menues. Very sad. Now my next point which I want to ask. It's basically about interactive fiction. I've never been able to solve a game or get far without looking at the solution or, well not with Inform, using hints. My question is, how must a player of these games think? For me, so much of these puzzles are, I don't want to say illogical in some ways, but really, most of them I'd never think about doing a certain way. I mean, A Bare's Night Out was recommended to me for children. Iether these children or people who plays these games have way super IQ's, or I just don't have the brain for these. I'd never think for example that I'd have to hit a pipe with a disk to clear it to get a key, etc. And then the whole thing about the ball and the cat, I threw the ball at the cat to wake her, but I never knew that I had to shake the ball to get the cat to follow, that the cat could climb things, it's just that I'm really rubbish with these games! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Mithril games and Interactive Fiction
Thanks for that Lora. I remember you were also asking about IF, have you used the Inform Interpreter, do you understand how to navigate the Hints System? I have still no luck trying to figure out settings to get the inform and tads interpreters working properly on the Pac Mate, I am trying it on a BX model. I wish we could speak to someone at FS about this, because these would be really stimulating to be able to carry the games around and play when we have nothing else to do. Ari - Original Message - From: Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mithril games and Interactive Fiction Hi, Ari, First, I find that playing these games is an exercise in creativity, and not necessarily an exercise in logic. One thing to remember before starting out is to use save a lot. If you're permitted to, save before you do anything you think might have a real effect on the game. You can return to this save repeatedly after trying various things. A few tips: You need to get into the game designer's head. If there is a list of verbs available to you, read through it. This gives you an idea of just what can be done in the game. If there isn't such a list, be prepared to try all sorts of things. Read carefully. Sometimes there are hints in the text; when there aren't, once you have an idea of what's important to the designer, you'll be better able to guess what he might have been thinking. You'll begin to learn what's important as you read his room and item descriptions, and any other text in the game. Often, in the end, it's just the idea not to be afraid to try anything. Yet a good game designer really should give you hints and nudges right in the text; remember that almost none of the text in a text adventure is worthless. It's there for a reason; you just need to figure out what it is. Good luck. I'll try to be more coherent when I get home. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Mithril games and Interactive Fiction Hi guys, First, I hope I'm not wrong, but Mithril games now seems like a company who aren't really into audio games anymore. Why I'm saying this is, it's nearly two weeks now that they've never gotten back to me about my problems with Klango not speaking the menues. Very sad. Now my next point which I want to ask. It's basically about interactive fiction. I've never been able to solve a game or get far without looking at the solution or, well not with Inform, using hints. My question is, how must a player of these games think? For me, so much of these puzzles are, I don't want to say illogical in some ways, but really, most of them I'd never think about doing a certain way. I mean, A Bare's Night Out was recommended to me for children. Iether these children or people who plays these games have way super IQ's, or I just don't have the brain for these. I'd never think for example that I'd have to hit a pipe with a disk to clear it to get a key, etc. And then the whole thing about the ball and the cat, I threw the ball at the cat to wake her, but I never knew that I had to shake the ball to get the cat to follow, that the cat could climb things, it's just that I'm really rubbish with these games! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] code factory
They had such cool actors and voices, but I'm still so upset I can't use KM 2000 on Windows XP. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Inform Hints System
Hi guys, Asked this a few days ago and at other times, but can anyone tell me how on earth to navigate the inform hints system, I get totally lost in it! Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Adapting Pocket Inform for Pac Mate?
Hi, Trying the Pocket Frotz on a Pac Mate. Am using the JAWS cursor to read the game screen, but my problem is that it's not reading the whole lines often, it just reads half the line or text on the screen sometimes, it doesn't read everything, are there some settings I must change to make it give it's best performance? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Inform Help System
Hi, I know this sounds like a weird question, but I really don't understand how to navigate the hints system of the Inform interpreter, although I've played interactive fiction for ages, I've never understood the instructions, used up all my hints in one go, can't find the hint I'm wanting for my part of the game, and then can't even get back into the gam, I just have to exit? This is the same system as used by infocom apparrently, but can anyone tell me how to use it, is there a fixed way, I try n, p, q, r and enter, everything but I can never understand how to use it! Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Getting Back into Interactive Fiction
Hi Lora, Yes, I'm also getting back into Interactive Fiction as well, I'll try and give you an overview. Many games take different interpreters. Sorry if I'm explaining what you already know, but am just not sure how much you've played Interactive Fiction before. Interpreters open the game files like word processor, you get different interpreters that can be used in Windows like Tads, Frotz, etc. I think your best bet is when you go to the interactive fiction archive, for each year of the interactive fiction competition they put together a nice installer of all games and interpreters of that year. I still can't use .z80 files, but that is just that I'm not good at converting them with the command line tools. The interactive fiction archive will have everything for you, maybe you should download the ashes.exe file from the /starters directory, but you can email me off-list if you have problems. As for the Pac Mate, I've heard you can play IF on it, but it was me who asked the questions, as I am having trouble in getting frotz for the pocket pc to load games, as well as tads to even read the screen properly. I think I'll try and write to Freedom Scientific to see whether they can't make it more accessible with scripts or something. If you want me to send you privately, I have got some games which are really cool beginner games for interactive fiction, you just choose from a menue. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Vipgameszone demos
Hi guys, Talking about games and demos, one company whose demo policy for me is quite stupid has to be vipgameszone! From the time you first activate the thing, you only have the three days, and whenever you want to try it, you have to be online, oh, and the new Beach Volleyball only runs for 10 minutes. I didn't know I'd have such a busy week, so I never really got to try Super Football properly at all. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Vipgameszone demos
One thing I'd love to know is how well accessible games are selling among us blindys and what are the best selling ones. I agree with Willem that a negative demo experience does often then not make you bother buying the games. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder
Hi Claudio, You have to wait for them then to set up your account, I really hope they do it before the chat this evening, it will be cool to chat with you. The only thing I don't like about for-the-people, is that people can't sort of just speak all at once like a normal conversation, only one person can speak at a time, and you have to hold the left control key in to speak, and then let it go when you finish. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Vipgameszone demos
Hi Dark, I loved the ESP demos, where you could play the first level without any restrictions at all, and the original Pinball demo. It's just also that with the vipgameszone thing, if you're on dial-up, you actually have to dial everytime you just want a quick game? To be honest, I think the problem with the sports, football that way is too restrictive, I mean, you don't have much choice, like huge runs or lucky shots, but I feel the Volleyball, even on insane, they should have made the time a bit shorter, it's supposed to be insane, but I couldn't see much of a difference to easy, only a little shorter time, but nothing that made me press the buttons much more madly. There are times when you play games and you need total consentration and need to sort of really be in the mood and accurate with the keyboard, but other games are just laid back. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Monkey Business and Virtual Pets?
Hi, First, I don't know if I'm reading the web site wrong, but the Monkey Business download is not a demo, you can't play it without registering? How is MB, is it a fun game? Another thing, has anyone ever tried one of those online virtual pet sites, are any accessible? I don't know if it was just me, but do you guys remember tamagochis? Because of the sounds and beeps, many of them were actually very accessible! I actually still have one! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Problem with Aura game
Hi, Linking from the audiogames.net site, there's a game called Aura. I downloaded the zipped file, but Trendmicro says it's a virus, can't be more specific, because it was my brother who got the warning message, but just be careful, or the we must scan the file with some other programs as well. I'm also getting fed up, as it's nearly a week and nothing from Mithrill. I think some of these companies have just lost the want for the audio games market? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] My Original Review was Re: Is It Worth PromotingBavisoft on My Next Podcast?
I also don't think they keep shows from so far back, most of them are dead. Another stupid thing which I don't like about the Bavisoft games is that there are no demos. Have still got no response from Mithrill games about the Haunted Factory problem, something suggests to me, also because there site hasn't been updated in a while I hope they just also haven't abandoned the game, luckily it's a download, so not too bad, but I wrote last week already. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] My Original Review was Re: Is It Worth PromotingBavisoft on My Next Podcast?
Hi Claudio, Here's the link for Kelly and Brian Hartgen's reviews of Grizzly Gulch, plus things you can listen to. http://www.bavisoft.com/download.htm Please remember though that, I'm not trying to be a killjoy or anything, but I think it would be wise for you to wait to hear if other people get what they order before you decide to order yourself. This is quite sad, because wasn't Grizzly Gulch the very first audio game around? I also think the guy from Bavisoft was on the list. Actually wonder why he unsubscribed, given that he makes games, I really appreciate Thomas, Phil, and many other developers really keeping in touch with us like they do, they do and chatting about games, it shows passion and commitment and seriousness to develop games. I remember that even when Bavisoft was more active, often months and months would go by before even the news section changed! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Is It Worth Promoting Bavisoft on My Next Podcast?
Hi Kelly, I also never got email answers when emailing, don't know what's going on, thank goodness I didn't order GG if yours didn't arrive, my mom wouldn't have been happy at all, and having to go through everything with cancelling credit card payment and everything. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] DOS from XP for games?
Hi Tobias and Thomas, I've often thought of the Linux route, since this will be off-topic, you can email me offlist with your replies. I'll explain now what happens. First, the linux route is cool, since having games on linux may give me motivated to learn it, but there are a few things. I had to stop using my old laptop because the, even though the hardware was fine, it couldn't run properly anymore, and, because it was a secondhand laptop, I didn't get a Windows disk, so when the software developed many problems, and some other components didn't function properly, I bought the new one, especially as I need Office 2003 for uni. The old laptop has very low specifications, I mean, old like Pentium 2, 32 MB Ram, which I made 128, but the point is, we tried installing Ubuntu with Orca, and it wouldn't run well, the laptop was too slow. What is the best linux system to put on. I was thinking of Speakup, but they tell me I need a number pad, and can't use speakup on a laptop. I have a doubletalk synthesizer which I can use, so I'd like something which would talk me through the installation. Most of all, I need to be able to ask people for help. When I've downloaded whatever you guys suggest for old computers, then I need to ask someone to explain to me how to burn the iso to CD, and when I start installing, I'll need to ask help for things I don't understand. I've heard of the blinux list, but everyone there seems so technical and they really talk so high that I always feel that I don't know what they're talking about, but I lose nothing in trying linux on it, as that laptop is just standing there, and I really can't mess it up. Then I also need some sort of guide to help me understand the whole linux environment on text, so, you see, even though I really want to try and do it, it seems so complicated! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Hobit and Lord of the Rings
Hi Tobias, I've got the games, it's just finding an accessible interpreter! So far I've tried about four without success. Thanks for the link though, totally forgot about that wonderful site. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Hobit and Lord of the Rings
Hi Phil, Am totally a bit confused, what do you think I should download from here? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Hobit and Lord of the Rings
Hi Tobias, Oh, I never knew there were dos versions. I'll quickly try this unquil thingy. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Hobit and Lord of the Rings
Hi all, I've again found Lord of the Rings and Hobbit games, but again, I have a problem with .z80 files, not being able to find an accessible interpreter or emulator, could anyone please help? There must be someone on here who might have tried spectrum games? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Hobit and Lord of the Rings
Hi Raul, These aren't z8, though, they're z80, they won't open with frotz. Speaking of Text Adventures, is there an email list or group dedicated to them? I'm just asking because they're not discussed much on the Audyssey list, which is a great pity. The 2007 IF competition was held, and nearly nothing on our list? Anyway, am quickly going out to have a wonderfully large burger! Yum! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Hi all, Sorry for this, but when my old computer died I just couldn't back up everything. I've looked through the archive for the link to download Hitchhiker's, but it doesn't work, so, if anyone else downloaded it, could the please email me the file. I remember it was I think a .z3 file, or at least you played it with Frotz TTS. Thanks very much Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Haunted Factory
Hi Darren, It's apparrently a sort of Tetris game for the blind, that's why I'm really curious to buy it. I'm going to try the demo quickly. Ari - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Danie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Haunted Factory What is it anyway I've never herd of it. Thanks muchly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danie Sent: 09 November 2007 13:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Haunted Factory Hi All: I tried to play Haunted Factory yesterday and it wouldn't work right. Do I have to open Klango first? What are the steps for starting the game? Danie --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 08/11/2007 17:55 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Haunted Factory
The menus in Klango and Haunted Factory won't talk when I move, must I use JAWS, are they supposed to talk? It just makes that weird sound going from left to right speaker. Ari - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Danie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Haunted Factory What is it anyway I've never herd of it. Thanks muchly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danie Sent: 09 November 2007 13:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Haunted Factory Hi All: I tried to play Haunted Factory yesterday and it wouldn't work right. Do I have to open Klango first? What are the steps for starting the game? Danie --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 08/11/2007 17:55 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Sokker Manager: football game - on-li ne soccer manager with live flash animated matches . :web soccer manager, web football manager , strategic football, strategic soccer, socce r mana
No, I never knew about this, will check it tomorrow. Thanks Ari - Original Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:18 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Sokker Manager: football game - on-line soccer manager with live flash animated matches. :web soccer manager, web football manager, strategic football, strategic soccer, soccer management game, football management game, FIFA, UEFA, piÅ,ka nożna, primera d Hay Ari here is the link to the soccer manger site I helong. I think it was your post that posted this link not sure thogh. sincerely, Jason http://www.sokker.org/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Sound Pong Help
Hi all, Am having a problem trying to start the experimental audio game Sound Pong. It just says an error occurred, but what error and why? Has anyone actually played this game successfully, because nearly every post I've read nearly everyone can't start it. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Brian Lara International Cricket 2007 expands the series' trademark fluid, dynamic gameplay mechanics to deliver a thoroughly entertaining and competitive game that captures all the tension, skill and intensity of world-class international cricket. Thanks to the official ICC Cricket World Cup 2007 content, Brian Lara International Cricket 2007 features licensed players, including world cricket stars Andrew Flintoff, Ricky Ponting, Mahendra Dhoni, Muttiah Muralitharan and of course, Brian Lara himself. In addition to players, the game leads with a dedicated ICC Cricket World Cup 2007 mode featuring all the official teams, stadia, kits and equipment of the tournament. Further modes include a fully licensed ICC Champions' Trophy competition and exhibition matches including One Day Games, Test Matches and exciting 20-over run fests. When you want to get competitive for real, Brian Lara International Cricket 2007 delivers online competitive play on PC (LAN and online) and Xbox Live. Brian Lara International Cricket 2007 adds extra depth to the series' complete batting, bowling and fielding experience whilst retaining its trademark accessible playability. The acclaimed batting play sees the introduction of subtle edges, sweepshots and the ability to use your feet to dance down wicket and smash the ball over the boundary for six. Bowling sees a much-improved set of delivery types, thanks to changes in the way the ball swings in the air and reacts off the pitch, showcasing Shane Warne's huge variation of spinning deliveries and Steve Harmison's raw pace and even reverse swing as the ball degrades. In Fielding, there's a new reflex-testing slip catch system and players can now be run out at both ends and be stumped by alert wicket keepers. A striking advancement is the photo-realistic visuals; with hundreds of real player likenesses being modelled in high detail, complete with animated facial expressions to capture the intensity and emotion of international cricket. Stadia, including all eight official World Cup venues, have also been created with a new level of textured detail and they make use of proprietary shader technology for realistic, subtle and changing lighting effects, such as time of day and weather. Ari - Original Message - From: ian and riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games i do not think that the cricket games are good for us but fifa is okay probly with bit of help. pro is quite hard and the sounds are not that distinguished - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games And has anyone tried Pro Evolution Soccer, is it accessible at all? There are many people who think it's better than FIFA, but does it have commentary and great sounds, I really need to know, as kalahari.net has it cheap. I'm thinking of getting something for my birthday, but there's also a UEFA Champion's League soccer game, but from what I've read it uses the same engine as fifa 2007. Does anyone know anything also about Brian Lara Cricket? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
We can't play Sensible Soccer either. No commentary, and, I don't know if you guys have ever seen where you're playing, and then because the camera or something changes, you suddenly have to run in another direction for the next play. I once saw a Sega Saturn which had a premier League game like that, but luckily you could turn it off there. That game had such a cool feature, there would be commentary and stuff, but you could play a practise mode, you choose your team and your oponents, but it would just be your oponent's goalie on the pitch, so 11 against 1! Fun to play these long balls run, get them again and, well, sometimes score! Thinking of that, another game with the rubbish camera feature was Jona Lomo rugby, not playable. Ari --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
And here's 2008, sounds interesting the new controls, but much more money, don't think want to spend that much unless really knew it was good. Detailed Description FIFA Soccer 08 enables hardcore and casual soccer gamers and fans to play like a real soccer player through competitive and social game modes, new gameplay controls, and enhanced authentic presentation. Get closer to the action than ever before. With new attacking and defending manual controls, competitive game modes, and greater depths of authenticity, live out your dreams with FIFA Soccer 08. Features: Manual Controls - Dictate the play with new manual controls for through-passing and crossing. Control the goalkeeper in one-on-one situations to deny the striker yourself. Choose the specific player you want to control with right analog stick player switching. Enhanced AI - New defensive and positional AI means that players ensure they're in the right place at the right time. New player and team traits differentiate the stars and clubs. Be a Pro: Co-op Season - Take on the role of a single player. Master positioning and find the space to unlock the opposition. Different individual and team tasks challenge you through a full season. Co-operate with or compete against your friends and track your performance through detailed statistics. Online Clubs - Form your own group of like-minded soccer fans to take on all challengers online. Gain status among the online community by helping your Club climb the rankings. Win points based on the importance of the match when playing Interactive Leagues or challenging other Clubs to a grudge-match tournament. Custom Formations - Design your own unique strategy to create the perfect formation and tactics. Assign roles and move players to the exact position in relation to teammates to undermine the opposition. Set attacking and defensive runs for members of your team. Every club has a unique formation. Manager Mode Improvements - New features include pre-season Friendlies to test your team before a campaign, new training options to hone your squad of players, and dynamic board expectations that change depending on your successes. or failures. Complete Authenticity - 30 leagues, 40 real stadiums, and thousands of players all accurately recreated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OK, here's the description of FIFA 2007, doesn't say much, but really sounds cool. With the 2006 FIFA World Cup over and the glamour of international football fading fast, players like Ronaldinho, Rooney and Toni have now gone back to their day jobs of winning glory for their club in EA SPORTS FIFA 07. From the first whistle, FIFA 07 throws you into the rollercoaster ride of a football season and the intense stadium atmosphere of every home and away match. Relish every satisfying victory over bitter rivals and live through every gut-wrenching poor performance at home. Savour the spine-tingling stadium atmosphere, home and away, as your team battles their way up the league table. Listen as your supporters chant your players' names and bellow all the rousing club songs through rain and shine. You have the power to shape your club's destiny in the EA SPORTS Interactive Leagues [F.A. Premier League, Bundesliga, French League, Mexican 1st Division], a new online mode that enables you to pit your club against supporters of your real-world opponents. Play your games according to the real-world schedule. When they play, you play. Track your team's progress as the aggregate results determine your club's position in the league table. Now you actually take to the pitch for the glory of your club. New intelligent AI ensures that your 11 men on the pitch make realistic decisions, finding space and passing like professionals. A complete overhaul of the game engine now means that you have to employ real world tactics, make realistic decisions and think like a player in order to win matches. Take on the updated and improved challenge of the Manager Mode. Player values and wages have been tuned to be even more realistic. Managerial decisions have even more tangible effects on player performance and welfare. Smarter CPU decisions mean rival managers are even more strategic in their own pursuit of silverware. This is the season where you make the difference! Features: list of 7 items . Represent your club online . Dynamic Weather . Enhanced Manager Mode . Play against up to eight friends in the FIFA 07 lounge . Features 27 leagues from 20 nations. Over 510 teams are accurately represented with correct kits and badges. . While online, breaking news, live scores and results are delivered straight to your screen, 24/7. . The crowds react to your performance. list end Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
I at least know that Pro Evolution is probably not a good idea, looking at these two bits from the description. We've all got so much to look forward to, starting with the retuned controls giving players more control over weighted passes, one-twos, and so on. This ties in neatly with the improved animation, which not only looks more realistic, but requires you to time kicks and shots perfectly for maximum power - you're more likely to scuff the ball and make weak, inaccurate shots if you attempt to play them while off balance or out of step. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder
Are there ever any, or how many people come to the game chats. I could probably be on the Saturday one, no way I can get up at 3 in the morning for this one. Ari - Original Message - From: Gamers Chat Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:00 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder Ever wanted to hear what a certain gamer really sounds like? Ever wanted to ask the developer a question about that cool game? Developers, ever wanted to get to know your players? Ever wanted to be able to answer questions asked by your players? Here is your chance to do all these things and more. All you need is a Windows system with a working sound card and microphone. The service is free to use after you complete the simple registration process. The site is http://www.for-the-people.com and the chat room is the Games People Play. This notice reminder is for the Thursdays gamer chat which goes on until when ever. The Time: Well, that depends on where you are at. Below is a simple chart showing time zones in the US as well as universal time. Thursdays starting at: 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern 1AM Friday morning Universal Hope to see you there. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Hi Ian, Apparrently Sensible Soccer was this great game in the 1990's, and, because of some features, fans still say it was one of the best soccer games, although I think it was on the Megadrive. I think it could have been the gameplay? Ian, did you have a Nintendo Entertainment System? If you did, do you remember the weird soccer game on there, the one where when you dribbled it made this funny sound, and when you shot it sort of made this high sound while the ball went through the air and there was music everytime someone scored a goal, the crowd sounded like a Kettle! and the halftime show apparrently was dancing girls. A was shoot and B was pass. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Hi Claudio, I don't know which one you mean, but you can get them at nearly anywhere they sell normal computer games. We're just talking about games that are for sighted people, but we still try and sort of play them, although we do sometimes do stupid things like pass the ball out, or run into defenders, etc. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Hi Jason, There are many manager games, so I don't know which one you're trying out, could you give me the site address? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Have found some forgotten jewels!
Hi guys, Have at last found Under The Ice, strategic submarine text adventure, together with four other text adventures on this site, including the fantasy game Braminar, and the Quest for this unpronouncable name. These were the first TA's I ever played in the typing class, before that I never knew games for the blind ever existed. Torpedo away! here's the link http://www.nostalgia8.org/disk826.htm Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
And has anyone tried Pro Evolution Soccer, is it accessible at all? There are many people who think it's better than FIFA, but does it have commentary and great sounds, I really need to know, as kalahari.net has it cheap. I'm thinking of getting something for my birthday, but there's also a UEFA Champion's League soccer game, but from what I've read it uses the same engine as fifa 2007. Does anyone know anything also about Brian Lara Cricket? Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
FIFA 97, I have the PC version, but it won't even install under XP! Am so angry! Is the new shooting thing a powerbar or a moving arrow, I don't suppose we'd have any chance with an arrow, since we wouldn't know where on the pitch we were. 2004 I think is an arrow, that's why I missed always! Ari - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games Just go ahead and ask your brother about it. Let him show you what the different buttons do. If you are playing together with your brother, he can maybee say what you have to do until you have learned it. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: ian and riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games i have not tried yet but it does sound very hard because the buttons are all diffrent and i think their is a power bar for the shuting - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games Havbe you tried to play the game with some help from your brother? Maybee you'll find it accessible. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: ian and riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games i normaly just watch my brother play it as it is hard for a blind person but the sounds are reall good and i enjoy watching my brother play it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Does PRO have good commentary? I don't know whether to go for FIFA or pro, must decide soon. There is also Sensible Soccer, ever tried or heard of it? Later on this afternoon, I'll post the titles and prices and maybe one of you guys can help me decide on this. FIFA 2002 was the worst FIFA ever, they didn't even have sounds for the tackles, and there wasn't really any loud ball sounds. That's a pity, because for me that was an interesting Premier League Season, because there were new teams like Fulham and Blackburn and Liverpool who I support had won those three cups the season before. What would be cool is now that SA has the 2010 WC, they might put the SA league in and I can play with Wits University! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Cricket 97 was very playable. It was possible to score good totals if you consentrated, but sighted people who can place the ball some of them managed to score over 1000 runs in one innings! You sometimes had to guess when to run, which was the problem, but generally, if you knew you timed the ball OK, you could risk it. Then there was the problem of not knowing where fielders were, but thank goodness the fielders in the game didn't go in for catches, or you weren't caught or played it to fielders often. I remember being in a one-day match, I was 189 for 8, and I needed 295 to win, and I did it! That's still one of my best moments. Ari --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
Yeah Ian, it's sometimes cool watching other people playing stuff. I love listening to my cousin with the Nintendo Entertainment System playing Elavator Action or Contra, or Tiny Toons, the different music of the levels, etc. Did anyone else like me just put on Elavator Action and shoot wildly, loved the sound of that funny gun. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games
But I'm still convinced I might have found a text-based football manager, it's just I can't find an accessible Spectrum Emulator, again, if anyone could please who knows more about these things try it. Ari - Original Message - From: ian and riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games i normaly just watch my brother play it as it is hard for a blind person but the sounds are reall good and i enjoy watching my brother play it. - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games Hi. Do you find Fifa 2008 accessible? Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: ian and riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games hi ari i agree with you i play fifa 2001 for the ps2 and i am really good at it because it is a game i can play. as you said it is good commanterry my brother has just got fifa 2008 for the ps3 for me and him and it is a good game. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket and FIFA games Hi Soren, What I used to do with the earlier FIFA's is that you listen to passes, crowds, and you use soccer logic. What I mean, I'm Liverpool, I know that Hamman plays in the centre of midfield, so when he gets the ball, I expect him to be in that position, and so try and can iether pass to the side or back, or forward, or, if brave, try and run. A lot of the time he is out of position, and I end up passing the ball out!, but that's part of the sort of fun. You have to listen to the crowd, if they are louder, you're nearer the oponent's goal, and can try and have a shot. The commentator might say your name louder. I don't know about the new fifa's, but with 2002 till 2004, I don't think they could really be played, since the sound effects of the ball were softer, the commentator didn't say the names much, and, most important, you couldn't really hear tackles. I'm surprised that your friend can play 2006 and 2007, no judgment here, but I've heard that to shoot you have to hold the d in and then let go when you see the arrow or angle at the right place in the goal. Iether it's not as visual as I've heard, or, if your friend is totally blind, I'd love to know how he gets his shots on target, and not sailing wide, since I think they were using this on fifa 2004, and I couldn't play it, since I could run, but everytime I shot, it went wide, please ask him what he does, would be very interesting. Of course the bad thing about the FIFA games is that you definitely need sighted assistance, because you can only move through menues and go to the next matches using the mouse. I've decided to buy Pro Evolution and Sensible soccer, will tell you if I can play them, talking about taking risks! One hint I can give you is, if you want, for example fifa 2007, wait till 2008 comes out, then 2007's price absolutely falls, so you sort of can take a gamble without regreting it too much. I do think that us blind football players should try and network to find solutions. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
