Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
well Tom, on the one hand, I was hoping for an original rpg game from you, rather than simply a more streamlined version of gamebooks I've already played. On the other hand, there's no denying it would be welcome and possibly easier for people to start off with the series. As far as the books status' goes, the author said he didn't want them to vanish, so gave permission for the project.aon staff to convert them to html and put them on the site. You'd probably have to ask the staff for permission, = but sinse they actually seem to encourage the creation of playing aides such as the silverlight and java ones I mentioned (neither of which are sadly accessible), I don't suppose they'd mind. From your point of view, there are some advantages. firstly, the rules are very well defigned and streight forward, also official rules and parts where their application seems strange have been defigned in footnotes on the site. also (and most importantly), the books are already linked html. So when your making choices of what to do, it's only neccessary to click on one. the only things you'd need to defign would be a combat engine, the keeping of stats, restriction of certain choices according to the character's skills' or items, and one or two extra mechanics such as the use of healing potions or some of the more intricate skill mechanics and immunities. all these are set out in a streight forward way though on the site's various rule handbooks. The main task, and one that does seem a litle monumental to me, is going through a hole load of 350 section gamebooks section by section, to get in every combat and misshap, and that's not counting statting the rules. There are 20 gamebooks in the initial three series about the warrior/monk Lonewolf himself, where you play as one solo character and keep the skills, stats and items from the previous books. there are then eight books of the new order series about Lone wolf's successor, and indeed four books about Greystar the wizard set in the same world, - though a different part of it. All this would be quite a task, though obviously one which some people have completed, allbeit in an inaccessible way. Most of all though, I recommend you physically try the books yourself and see what you think to them. beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not? Hi Dark, Umm...If these Lonewolf game books are public domain perhaps I could convert them to an open source text adventure system like Sryth. I've been meaning to write an RPG or game book style game anyway and I'd have no problem converting an existing game to a more accessible format as soon as my schedule lightens up after MOTA. What do you think? dark wrote: I'm talking about the Lonewolf gamebook series from http://www.projectaon.org/new.htmm, a set of incredibly good gamebooks which tell a long ongoing story, have skills and other interesting mechanics, and were originally released in the 1980's but have sinse been made public domain. Usually, though the books are done as html with links betwene the various sections, it's necessary to roll all dice, and keep your own stats and items etc. The silverlight thing was an attempt to automate this process. Sadly though, it doesn't work at all! Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Hi Dark, To be honest I hope to make my own RPG anyway. This was just a thought given the fact there is already an existing game book system out there, but it is largely unaccessible unless you want to play the game manually. Given the amount of content it would take a long time to create, but then again it would save time as I wouldn't need to write everythingfrom scratch. Lots of pros and cons here. dark wrote: well Tom, on the one hand, I was hoping for an original rpg game from you, rather than simply a more streamlined version of gamebooks I've already played. On the other hand, there's no denying it would be welcome and possibly easier for people to start off with the series. As far as the books status' goes, the author said he didn't want them to vanish, so gave permission for the project.aon staff to convert them to html and put them on the site. You'd probably have to ask the staff for permission, = but sinse they actually seem to encourage the creation of playing aides such as the silverlight and java ones I mentioned (neither of which are sadly accessible), I don't suppose they'd mind. From your point of view, there are some advantages. firstly, the rules are very well defigned and streight forward, also official rules and parts where their application seems strange have been defigned in footnotes on the site. also (and most importantly), the books are already linked html. So when your making choices of what to do, it's only neccessary to click on one. the only things you'd need to defign would be a combat engine, the keeping of stats, restriction of certain choices according to the character's skills' or items, and one or two extra mechanics such as the use of healing potions or some of the more intricate skill mechanics and immunities. all these are set out in a streight forward way though on the site's various rule handbooks. The main task, and one that does seem a litle monumental to me, is going through a hole load of 350 section gamebooks section by section, to get in every combat and misshap, and that's not counting statting the rules. There are 20 gamebooks in the initial three series about the warrior/monk Lonewolf himself, where you play as one solo character and keep the skills, stats and items from the previous books. there are then eight books of the new order series about Lone wolf's successor, and indeed four books about Greystar the wizard set in the same world, - though a different part of it. All this would be quite a task, though obviously one which some people have completed, allbeit in an inaccessible way. Most of all though, I recommend you physically try the books yourself and see what you think to them. beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Hi tom. well, playing the game manually isn't actually too bad. The pages are all linked html so you only have to click on the link for the choice you want, combat is fairly easy to run, and keeping an ms word document open to keep track of stats and items isn't exactly the end of the earth. I've played several other good gamebooks this way, such as all the Chronicles of arborell stuff which are truly fantastic. I'm not saying automation processes wouldn't be welcome, just that it's slightly wrong to say that the lw books are inaccessible simply because the other automated playing aides won't work. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Hi. poking around the project.aon forums, I discovered someone has created an online application to automate playing of lone wolf gamebooks. This means no more stat and item keeping, looking up numbers on tables, rolling dice or long drawn out combats. In fact it would make the Lonewolf series function essentially like the fighting fantasy project stuff. For a long while there has been a java application called 7th sense which does this, however sinse I can't read anything with Hal above the title, it's a bit of a none starter, especially as while some Java applications can be incredibly screen reader friendly, when they're not, they're not! and nothing short of a complete rewrite will fix them. So, I was intreagued to here about this online version. The only trouble is it apparently uses the Ms silverlight web addon. I've heard a couple of bad things about silverlight, but is this dependent upon the webpage and design, or implicitely part of silverlight itself. Being as the Lw books are already html text, I'd theoretically assume all Silverlight would need to do is handle all the backgrounds stats etc, but is this wrong? have other silverlight driven projects proved utterly impossible? Any information would be appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
If this turns out to be accessible, I'll be a happy man indeed. On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:21 AM, dark wrote: Hi. poking around the project.aon forums, I discovered someone has created an online application to automate playing of lone wolf gamebooks. This means no more stat and item keeping, looking up numbers on tables, rolling dice or long drawn out combats. In fact it would make the Lonewolf series function essentially like the fighting fantasy project stuff. For a long while there has been a java application called 7th sense which does this, however sinse I can't read anything with Hal above the title, it's a bit of a none starter, especially as while some Java applications can be incredibly screen reader friendly, when they're not, they're not! and nothing short of a complete rewrite will fix them. So, I was intreagued to here about this online version. The only trouble is it apparently uses the Ms silverlight web addon. I've heard a couple of bad things about silverlight, but is this dependent upon the webpage and design, or implicitely part of silverlight itself. Being as the Lw books are already html text, I'd theoretically assume all Silverlight would need to do is handle all the backgrounds stats etc, but is this wrong? have other silverlight driven projects proved utterly impossible? Any information would be appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
I created a temporary website for www.blind-games.com in Silverlight and it didn't appear to be very accessible. It might be possible to make the site accessible with a different methodology. After all, the entire site doesn't have to be in Silverlight. Only the app. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Well, I'm incredibly sorry to report that the webpages which use the Ap are about as inaccessible as you could imagine! There is literally no text there Hal can read beyond the status bar at all, in fact I even tried saving the page as text and got nothing. I'm certain that Silverlight is installed and running correctly sinse it's there in the addon's section as an enabled Ie addon, however for all that Hal can make of it the page which starts the ap might as well be blank, though looking closely I believe I can see some writing there so I know it is not. I'm not sure what changes if any could be made to make the thing accessible, sinse i'm not even sure what silverlight practically does to make pages textless, but sinse as I said the 7th sense Java Lw program is equally inaccessible and quite probably impossible to make so, I'll contact Dolphin on Monday and ask about silverlight and Hal. There may be experimental maps for it which I don't know about, or something might be in the works on a Hal upgrade. Sinse I don't know how silverlight works I can't really say. It's a shame though that both of the methods of playing lw conveniently are so absolutely inaccessible, particularly as both have extra options such as a hard core mode and a scoring system which sound rather fun. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not? If this turns out to be accessible, I'll be a happy man indeed. On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:21 AM, dark wrote: Hi. poking around the project.aon forums, I discovered someone has created an online application to automate playing of lone wolf gamebooks. This means no more stat and item keeping, looking up numbers on tables, rolling dice or long drawn out combats. In fact it would make the Lonewolf series function essentially like the fighting fantasy project stuff. For a long while there has been a java application called 7th sense which does this, however sinse I can't read anything with Hal above the title, it's a bit of a none starter, especially as while some Java applications can be incredibly screen reader friendly, when they're not, they're not! and nothing short of a complete rewrite will fix them. So, I was intreagued to here about this online version. The only trouble is it apparently uses the Ms silverlight web addon. I've heard a couple of bad things about silverlight, but is this dependent upon the webpage and design, or implicitely part of silverlight itself. Being as the Lw books are already html text, I'd theoretically assume all Silverlight would need to do is handle all the backgrounds stats etc, but is this wrong? have other silverlight driven projects proved utterly impossible? Any information would be appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Before I start talking nicely to the developer, I'd be interested to know precisely how much work it'd take to un-silverlight the pages but keep the ap running. Would that in fact be possible? or would it take just as much work and redesign of the entire program as rewriting the 7th sense Java ap would. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jason Allen evildi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not? I created a temporary website for www.blind-games.com in Silverlight and it didn't appear to be very accessible. It might be possible to make the site accessible with a different methodology. After all, the entire site doesn't have to be in Silverlight. Only the app. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Well, who uses hal anymore these days' Hal is inferior to any screen reader you can think of, even NVDA. So before giving up, I would try it with other readers. On 10/10/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Before I start talking nicely to the developer, I'd be interested to know precisely how much work it'd take to un-silverlight the pages but keep the ap running. Would that in fact be possible? or would it take just as much work and redesign of the entire program as rewriting the 7th sense Java ap would. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jason Allen evildi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not? I created a temporary website for www.blind-games.com in Silverlight and it didn't appear to be very accessible. It might be possible to make the site accessible with a different methodology. After all, the entire site doesn't have to be in Silverlight. Only the app. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
hmmm silverlite has not always worked for us its not really accessible. However what are the lonewolf gamebooks I thought lonewolf was a gma game but I guess its many things. Also where do I play these lonewolf things with the online silverlite program, also how do you play with the java program, I have jaws 6.20 so I may try this. At 09:21 p.m. 10/10/2009, you wrote: Hi. poking around the project.aon forums, I discovered someone has created an online application to automate playing of lone wolf gamebooks. This means no more stat and item keeping, looking up numbers on tables, rolling dice or long drawn out combats. In fact it would make the Lonewolf series function essentially like the fighting fantasy project stuff. For a long while there has been a java application called 7th sense which does this, however sinse I can't read anything with Hal above the title, it's a bit of a none starter, especially as while some Java applications can be incredibly screen reader friendly, when they're not, they're not! and nothing short of a complete rewrite will fix them. So, I was intreagued to here about this online version. The only trouble is it apparently uses the Ms silverlight web addon. I've heard a couple of bad things about silverlight, but is this dependent upon the webpage and design, or implicitely part of silverlight itself. Being as the Lw books are already html text, I'd theoretically assume all Silverlight would need to do is handle all the backgrounds stats etc, but is this wrong? have other silverlight driven projects proved utterly impossible? Any information would be appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
hmmm hal is still good as long as you have the latest version. saying that I wouldn't use just one reader, I use nvda, hal and jaws, however thats my opinion. Hal is good in some things but really bad in others. The good things it does is not putting spurious info everywhere. when you brouse websites then its jaws and nvda, also if you use excell or advanced word functions, and maybe firefox its jaws or and nvda. However for things like eudora and winamp its good also you can turn the voice off on the fly and hotkeys which jaws has not done. It also hardly crashes. At 12:35 a.m. 11/10/2009, you wrote: Well, who uses hal anymore these days' Hal is inferior to any screen reader you can think of, even NVDA. So before giving up, I would try it with other readers. On 10/10/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Before I start talking nicely to the developer, I'd be interested to know precisely how much work it'd take to un-silverlight the pages but keep the ap running. Would that in fact be possible? or would it take just as much work and redesign of the entire program as rewriting the 7th sense Java ap would. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jason Allen evildi...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not? I created a temporary website for www.blind-games.com in Silverlight and it didn't appear to be very accessible. It might be possible to make the site accessible with a different methodology. After all, the entire site doesn't have to be in Silverlight. Only the app. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Hi Dark, I'm sorry to say this isn't your day old buddy. i've not had much success with Silverlight stuff. I tested the latest silverlight release and it gave Window Eyes 7.x some troubles. So I decided to forget it. Not sure what more I can say other than in myopinion Silverlight isn't very screen reader friendly. If you get it working let me know as I'd like to know if someone has success with Silverlight based content. dark wrote: Hi. poking around the project.aon forums, I discovered someone has created an online application to automate playing of lone wolf gamebooks. This means no more stat and item keeping, looking up numbers on tables, rolling dice or long drawn out combats. In fact it would make the Lonewolf series function essentially like the fighting fantasy project stuff. For a long while there has been a java application called 7th sense which does this, however sinse I can't read anything with Hal above the title, it's a bit of a none starter, especially as while some Java applications can be incredibly screen reader friendly, when they're not, they're not! and nothing short of a complete rewrite will fix them. So, I was intreagued to here about this online version. The only trouble is it apparently uses the Ms silverlight web addon. I've heard a couple of bad things about silverlight, but is this dependent upon the webpage and design, or implicitely part of silverlight itself. Being as the Lw books are already html text, I'd theoretically assume all Silverlight would need to do is handle all the backgrounds stats etc, but is this wrong? have other silverlight driven projects proved utterly impossible? Any information would be appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
I'm talking about the Lonewolf gamebook series from http://www.projectaon.org/new.htmm, a set of incredibly good gamebooks which tell a long ongoing story, have skills and other interesting mechanics, and were originally released in the 1980's but have sinse been made public domain. Usually, though the books are done as html with links betwene the various sections, it's necessary to roll all dice, and keep your own stats and items etc. The silverlight thing was an attempt to automate this process. Sadly though, it doesn't work at all! Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not? hmmm silverlite has not always worked for us its not really accessible. However what are the lonewolf gamebooks I thought lonewolf was a gma game but I guess its many things. Also where do I play these lonewolf things with the online silverlite program, also how do you play with the java program, I have jaws 6.20 so I may try this. At 09:21 p.m. 10/10/2009, you wrote: Hi. poking around the project.aon forums, I discovered someone has created an online application to automate playing of lone wolf gamebooks. This means no more stat and item keeping, looking up numbers on tables, rolling dice or long drawn out combats. In fact it would make the Lonewolf series function essentially like the fighting fantasy project stuff. For a long while there has been a java application called 7th sense which does this, however sinse I can't read anything with Hal above the title, it's a bit of a none starter, especially as while some Java applications can be incredibly screen reader friendly, when they're not, they're not! and nothing short of a complete rewrite will fix them. So, I was intreagued to here about this online version. The only trouble is it apparently uses the Ms silverlight web addon. I've heard a couple of bad things about silverlight, but is this dependent upon the webpage and design, or implicitely part of silverlight itself. Being as the Lw books are already html text, I'd theoretically assume all Silverlight would need to do is handle all the backgrounds stats etc, but is this wrong? have other silverlight driven projects proved utterly impossible? Any information would be appreciated. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Silverlight accessible or not?
Hi Dark, Umm...If these Lonewolf game books are public domain perhaps I could convert them to an open source text adventure system like Sryth. I've been meaning to write an RPG or game book style game anyway and I'd have no problem converting an existing game to a more accessible format as soon as my schedule lightens up after MOTA. What do you think? dark wrote: I'm talking about the Lonewolf gamebook series from http://www.projectaon.org/new.htmm, a set of incredibly good gamebooks which tell a long ongoing story, have skills and other interesting mechanics, and were originally released in the 1980's but have sinse been made public domain. Usually, though the books are done as html with links betwene the various sections, it's necessary to roll all dice, and keep your own stats and items etc. The silverlight thing was an attempt to automate this process. Sadly though, it doesn't work at all! Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
