Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Shaun, Actually, for basic document storage it doesn't require much space, and a person can get by with free cloud storage with the various cloud storage providers. I believe Microsoft gives those with a Windows Live account 7 GB free. That's quite a bit for basic documents. Obviously, if someone has mp3s, podcasts, whatever they'll need space, but let me remind you the purpose of this thread is talking about backing up keys. Surely a basic cloud storage account is more than plenty for those sorts of needs. On 9/2/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well I wouldn't put storage drives with anything on anywhere if you want to back up your data ie documents then if you havn't got dropbox then you should get it. If you use windows8 and have an ms account or if you do have win7 or if you use gmail then you have a storage system of a sort allready I use dropbox because that was before I got gmail and I shared stuff from that. But I know someone a friend that uses her google drive one drive and dropbox ffor work and other document storage ofcause if you want a lot you need to pay for it but still. for document storage well. Any big data like books, music, etc I'd still go for physical media though. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I have 2 drives, a mybook for backup and a smaller elements half its size for work. In addition I have several sticks ranging from 128mb one which stores all my secure data to a 16 gb drive. A lot of these are used when I need to share data or upgrade systems. And while most of these are inexpensive I have also a collection of animal themed drives, and I tend to choose what I want and pay a premium for these. Though to be honest since I have at least32gb all up in storage drives I havn't really needed to collect that many for a while. At 07:39 p.m. 2/09/2014, you wrote: Interesting Tom. As I said, I now use the Sea gate drive as my main backup, the passport drive was for a friend of mine who travels round the world and has a rather weerd habbit of digitizing films on dvd rather than just taking the disks so wanted a large harddrive. I only tend to use memory sticks for quick and instant transfers of stuff sinse I have far more things to backup with audio, music etc than would fit on one so am better using the external drive for that. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Well I wouldn't put storage drives with anything on anywhere if you want to back up your data ie documents then if you havn't got dropbox then you should get it. If you use windows8 and have an ms account or if you do have win7 or if you use gmail then you have a storage system of a sort allready I use dropbox because that was before I got gmail and I shared stuff from that. But I know someone a friend that uses her google drive one drive and dropbox ffor work and other document storage ofcause if you want a lot you need to pay for it but still. for document storage well. Any big data like books, music, etc I'd still go for physical media though. At 11:18 p.m. 2/09/2014, you wrote: Have you considered something like dropbox or backblaze? Personally, I'd probably go with a safe deposit box at the bank for my flash drive before I used a stylus or a brailer. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:23:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I'm not fast at using them, but they sure do beat using ink. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, Yeah, using a slate and stylist is a total pain. I actually have one, but have never been good at it so haven't used it much. People have tried to get me to get better at it, but I just never have found a real need to sit down and practice with it. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
ok thats quite low. To be honest though I don't always backup the backup drive as often as I should, every 6 months or so I try to remember what I need to back up, but since I don't really get to much that I get that worried about bar a few podcasts I try to keep things backed up. Most of my work stuff is in dropbox, everything else important is on an old 128mb flash stick I got ages ago which is used no where else bar my personal system. At 11:18 p.m. 2/09/2014, you wrote: Random fact: I believe its about 9% of people who do regular backups. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, you are right. Most people don't keep adequate backups of their stuff. Not even me. What a lot of people fail to realize is they often times need to keep backups of their backups just in case their primary backup system gets damaged or destroyed. Its happened to me, and I am sure has happened to plenty of others as well. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: So did I tom, a fuzzing hard drive I had died, I recovered to another drive. That drive went boom. After that I was able to get most data back from the broken first drive, and then I was able to get another drive. I got a second drive and now back the working external to the backup drive all the time as well as other stuff, though to be honest the backup drive is only used for the backup. When this drive dies I will use the backup drive as the primary drive and then buy another drive to use as backup. Hopefully this means that at any time I only need to replace one drive. Still its a hard lesson. A lot of people at least those a friend that did admin and website and system servicing found that a lot of people did not kep adaquit backups. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Shaun, That sounds to me like the product key system for Judgement Day is screwed up. If it were a hardware based key it would not care how many times you reinstalled the OS, because it gets the ID of the hardware in the system. therefore Liam must be using the user account for verification which is not only week it causes serious problems if the new user account on the new system isn't exactly the same as on the old one. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy his stuff because he seems to be never around to replace keys or issue new ones. While superliam is a constant key, once you have it its there but with judgement day every time you reformat or need to install the key is different again. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I wonder if they ever do bump and thump tests in the lab to see how tough they can make hard drives, like they do with motor cars? At 12:57 PM 9/2/2014, you wrote: Hi John, Wow. You are lucky you didn't send that drive to oblivion. However, it all depends on the drive. Some just can stand up to more of a beating than others. On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Interesting Tom. As I said, I now use the Sea gate drive as my main backup, the passport drive was for a friend of mine who travels round the world and has a rather weerd habbit of digitizing films on dvd rather than just taking the disks so wanted a large harddrive. I only tend to use memory sticks for quick and instant transfers of stuff sinse I have far more things to backup with audio, music etc than would fit on one so am better using the external drive for that. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Topm. I was only ever forced to use a stylus once by my evil special school and have never owned one, nor would I actually ever want to sinse hell I don't even braille anymore so why would I want to go further back? To be honest I never liked writing quick notes or important info in braille sinse I always found having loads of braille paper or labels or whatever a pest to store and rather difficult to find and read through quickly, one reason wy I pretty much stopped using braille entirely when i was 13 and switched to a laptop. I always used to make quick voice notes on my parrot, voicemate, now I use my Iphone. For important stuff like backing keys up I've always just used an external harddrive, keeping copies on multiple machines and similar and don't really see the problem with doing that provided you can get the technology sorted out. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Ah, if only the Grue were transferable via a thumb drive! Think of the fun you could have by going to other homes and giving them the Grue without their knowledge! Of course, I still wouldn't beware the Grue. I still refuse. (rotten grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Interesting Tom. As I said, I now use the Sea gate drive as my main backup, the passport drive was for a friend of mine who travels round the world and has a rather weerd habbit of digitizing films on dvd rather than just taking the disks so wanted a large harddrive. I only tend to use memory sticks for quick and instant transfers of stuff sinse I have far more things to backup with audio, music etc than would fit on one so am better using the external drive for that. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Well you could buy Super Egg Hunt Plus I guess since the key is tied to the user name. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/09/2014 10:18, shaun everiss wrote: I agree. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy his stuff because he seems to be never around to replace keys or issue new ones. While superliam is a constant key, once you have it its there but with judgement day every time you reformat or need to install the key is different again. At 07:09 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, While I do agree Liam needs to get his act together about key replacements and providing better support for his games I disagree about him giving them away for free. He put the time and work into creating them so deserves some compensation for that, and as a fellow developer can understand why he would be reluctant to just give them away. That said, I don't really understand why he isn't providing better support for them. Yes, I know he does have a real daytime job which would drastically effect how much free time he has to devoting to supporting his products. Nobody can fault him for that, but I do think he could probably manage his free time better. I realize it is easy for me to say this, but I would think he could devote at least a little time to L-Works support rather than doing something else with his free time be it watching TV,playing games, or whatever it is he does in his free time. It makes me question weather he really cares or not. Perhaps, though, I am being too harsh. I just don't know enough about why he isn't offering better support to accurately make a fair judgement about the situation. Still, even if he himself doesn't have free time he should be able to find a trusted friend, relative, or appoint a fellow game developer to redistribute product keys and help manage the business end of things of L-Works rather than let things hang. Again, easy for me to say, but it would potentially be an option to offer his customers something rather than seemingly ignoring them. Last of all he could always write or higher someone to write some automated system which would ideally be the best way to handle support. The automated system would be available 24/7 and only require minimal oversight. That way he would be free to do whatever he needed to do while having an automated system overseeing the business end of the business. The point being here is I know Liam could probably do something, and for that reason I don't believe just giving his games away for free is the right answer. However, he does need to do something as it feels like a lot of people have been left in the lurch by his lack of attention to L-Works the last few years. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Have you considered something like dropbox or backblaze? Personally, I'd probably go with a safe deposit box at the bank for my flash drive before I used a stylus or a brailer. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:23:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I'm not fast at using them, but they sure do beat using ink. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, Yeah, using a slate and stylist is a total pain. I actually have one, but have never been good at it so haven't used it much. People have tried to get me to get better at it, but I just never have found a real need to sit down and practice with it. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Motion seconded. I'm far from what anyone would call nice to my technology, but somehow most of it keeps right on going. Its absolutely amazing to me considering all the things I read on the net. Just goes to show you that manufacturers really do build these things to last; if you don't get a lemon, you've got a really good product. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:57:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi John, Wow. You are lucky you didn't send that drive to oblivion. However, it all depends on the drive. Some just can stand up to more of a beating than others. On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Its drive serial numbers, which happen to change when you reformat. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:58:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Shaun, That sounds to me like the product key system for Judgement Day is screwed up. If it were a hardware based key it would not care how many times you reinstalled the OS, because it gets the ID of the hardware in the system. therefore Liam must be using the user account for verification which is not only week it causes serious problems if the new user account on the new system isn't exactly the same as on the old one. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Random fact: I believe its about 9% of people who do regular backups. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 01:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, you are right. Most people don't keep adequate backups of their stuff. Not even me. What a lot of people fail to realize is they often times need to keep backups of their backups just in case their primary backup system gets damaged or destroyed. Its happened to me, and I am sure has happened to plenty of others as well. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: So did I tom, a fuzzing hard drive I had died, I recovered to another drive. That drive went boom. After that I was able to get most data back from the broken first drive, and then I was able to get another drive. I got a second drive and now back the working external to the backup drive all the time as well as other stuff, though to be honest the backup drive is only used for the backup. When this drive dies I will use the backup drive as the primary drive and then buy another drive to use as backup. Hopefully this means that at any time I only need to replace one drive. Still its a hard lesson. A lot of people at least those a friend that did admin and website and system servicing found that a lot of people did not kep adaquit backups. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Lol John, I did the same with my iphone, accidentally knocked it off the desk with my arm when I was hurrying to plug in my laptop before the battary died. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Dark and all, Just thought I would point out the name of the brand is Sea Gate not See Gate in case anyone wants to go looking for that brand of external drive. I will personally vouch for Sea Gate drives, because I have two of them and they have been far more reliable then Western Digital in my experience. As for Passport drives I have owned a couple of those, and found them to be very problematic. They are basically a laptop drive in a plastic housing. I've had troubles with the USB chords going bad on them and needing to be replaced, and if you drop one it is toast. So I found flash drives more reliable for basic backups. On 9/1/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions
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That was why I bought the surviver case for my Iphone. I've dropped it off my bedside locker a couple of times and I don't worry sinse apparently with the surviver case an Iphone has survived being chucked out of an airoplane :D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Lol John, I did the same with my iphone, accidentally knocked it off the desk with my arm when I was hurrying to plug in my laptop before the battary died. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Dark and all, Just thought I would point out the name of the brand is Sea Gate not See Gate in case anyone wants to go looking for that brand of external drive. I will personally vouch for Sea Gate drives, because I have two of them and they have been far more reliable then Western Digital in my experience. As for Passport drives I have owned a couple of those, and found them to be very problematic. They are basically a laptop drive in a plastic housing. I've had troubles with the USB chords going bad on them and needing to be replaced, and if you drop one it is toast. So I found flash drives more reliable for basic backups. On 9/1/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions
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Hi Dark, I don't blame you a bit. I have never liked the slate and stylus myself, and as I indicated another post as soon as the notetakers like the Braille N' Speak came onto the market my use of braille pretty much vanished. I went from there to using laptops and other devices. So these days I have things like product keys backed up in a couple of different places. I have my external hard drives, plus I have a 16 GB flash drive I generally have around for quick and easy access to important info like product keys. Cheers! On 9/2/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Topm. I was only ever forced to use a stylus once by my evil special school and have never owned one, nor would I actually ever want to sinse hell I don't even braille anymore so why would I want to go further back? To be honest I never liked writing quick notes or important info in braille sinse I always found having loads of braille paper or labels or whatever a pest to store and rather difficult to find and read through quickly, one reason wy I pretty much stopped using braille entirely when i was 13 and switched to a laptop. I always used to make quick voice notes on my parrot, voicemate, now I use my Iphone. For important stuff like backing keys up I've always just used an external harddrive, keeping copies on multiple machines and similar and don't really see the problem with doing that provided you can get the technology sorted out. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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And unfortunately Super Liam and Judgment Day don't use name-based keys, so backing them up really doesn't work. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Stephen, Yes and no. It all depends on how the product key system was designed and weather or not they are hardware specific. Simple name and key systems, for example, will work on any computer provided the end user provides the correct user name and product key. Therefore, in a case like that backing up the correct registration information is the easiest way to insure the end user has a working product key when they need to reinstall, buy a new PC, whatever. If it is a hardware based product key then I would agree the developer needs to be able to provide new keys when the hardware on the end user's computer changes. On 8/31/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: Product keys change according to what machine you run it on. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, While I do agree Liam needs to get his act together about key replacements and providing better support for his games I disagree about him giving them away for free. He put the time and work into creating them so deserves some compensation for that, and as a fellow developer can understand why he would be reluctant to just give them away. That said, I don't really understand why he isn't providing better support for them. Yes, I know he does have a real daytime job which would drastically effect how much free time he has to devoting to supporting his products. Nobody can fault him for that, but I do think he could probably manage his free time better. I realize it is easy for me to say this, but I would think he could devote at least a little time to L-Works support rather than doing something else with his free time be it watching TV,playing games, or whatever it is he does in his free time. It makes me question weather he really cares or not. Perhaps, though, I am being too harsh. I just don't know enough about why he isn't offering better support to accurately make a fair judgement about the situation. Still, even if he himself doesn't have free time he should be able to find a trusted friend, relative, or appoint a fellow game developer to redistribute product keys and help manage the business end of things of L-Works rather than let things hang. Again, easy for me to say, but it would potentially be an option to offer his customers something rather than seemingly ignoring them. Last of all he could always write or higher someone to write some automated system which would ideally be the best way to handle support. The automated system would be available 24/7 and only require minimal oversight. That way he would be free to do whatever he needed to do while having an automated system overseeing the business end of the business. The point being here is I know Liam could probably do something, and for that reason I don't believe just giving his games away for free is the right answer. However, he does need to do something as it feels like a lot of people have been left in the lurch by his lack of attention to L-Works the last few years. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Or just encrypt and upload them to the cloud... there are plenty of ways to compress and encrypt product keys. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Thomas, it was a soney drive, my dad got it for me on the recomendation of his friend who has a professional computer business. Dad isn't very tech-minded, and the friend, while good with computers, doesn't seem to understand the concept of blind accessibility, hense he put avast on my computer, then wonders why it's suddenly full of viruses lol. I knew it wasn't accessible, but trying to spell it out to someone who is sighted and think they know it all is like pulling teeth in this case. oh it'll be fine, and if not, ask for sighted help grrr! Anyway, I decided on copying my product ids for my l-works games and sending them to Liam to see if that made life any easier for him, the id for Super Liam is now on my clipboard, but on being taken to the order page, i get a 404 file not found message, which I think means the link is somehow broken. Do you know what 404 means? I'll try anyway to post the id and see if I can awaken Liam from his slumbers with some of my demonic singing! :) From lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori, Is it just Ebay you don't trust, or is it ordering things online in general? Even if you wouldn't want to use a site like Amazon, you could still have a look around on there at flash drives. Compare the descriptions, and see which one sounds the best to you. Then you could probably go to a local computer store or something like Best Buy to compare prices. I'm from the US, so I honestly don't know what the equivalent for places like Best buy or Radio Shack is over there, so sorry if that advice isn't helpful. I'd still be willing to bet that flash drives are as easily available there as they are here, though. And it really is true that the prices have dropped quite a bit over the past few years. Even smaller-capacity external hard drives aren't as expensive as they used to be. Either way, that won't help much with replacing your keys for Super Liam and Judgment Day, unfortunately, since those are hardware-based. But I agree that it's good to keep backups of all your keys and important data, so it can't hurt to have a cheap flash drive or two laying around. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail
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Even if people added him on Facebook, it's doubtful that he would respond to requests for product keys there, either. It seems like people probably already tried contacting him on Twitter, although I can't swear to that. On 8/30/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: can someone know his facebook ID Thanks Ishan On 8/30/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I don't know, he was a good guy but I hardly see him his l-works twitter has not been updated in ages. And as for the 2 games I legally own superliam and judgement day I have given up registering them on my systems. In fact if he is gone I won't buy his stuff because I can't get hime to register anything even though I try to do so. At 02:35 a.m. 30/08/2014, you wrote: Agreed. I was asked to re-purchase Super Egg Hunt Plus as a gift for a friend as they lost the key. Fortunately I still had the key tooked away somewhere so not a penny was wasted and was able to give it them again. Strangely this game does use an automated system but not his other titles. This is nonsense to me because of inconsistencies. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 29/08/2014 01:07, loriduncan wrote: Hi, does anyone know whatâ EURO (tm)s happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if heâ EURO (tm)s too busy or doesnâ EURO (tm)t want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, Iâ EURO (tm)m sad Iâ EURO (tm)m unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too.From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. /x-flowed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Desiree --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I was refering to Liam's system, speciffically, which I think if memory serves me correctly, is hardware based. At 03:35 PM 9/1/2014, you wrote: Hi Stephen, Yes and no. It all depends on how the product key system was designed and weather or not they are hardware specific. Simple name and key systems, for example, will work on any computer provided the end user provides the correct user name and product key. Therefore, in a case like that backing up the correct registration information is the easiest way to insure the end user has a working product key when they need to reinstall, buy a new PC, whatever. If it is a hardware based product key then I would agree the developer needs to be able to provide new keys when the hardware on the end user's computer changes. On 8/31/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: Product keys change according to what machine you run it on. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lori, What you call a memory stick are commonly called flash drives here in the US. Basically, it is just a long skinny plastic device with a cap on it you can take of and slide it into your USB port. To be honest I haven't paid too much attention to brands and just buy them based on price and the amount of memory available on them. There is another option available you might want to think about. You can buy a USB card reader which costs about $15, and you can put any size flash card in it which is nice. Of course you have to be careful with flash cards, but you can have several of them for a decent price and they are small enough to store in a desk drawer or in a container on your computer desk. Either way backup devices aren't that expensive. I don't know much about the UK to tell you where to get them, but I'm sure there has to be somewhere to get them for a fair price without going to Amazon, New Egg, or another online vender. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Stephen, Oh, I see. I haven't actually gotten any of Liam's commercial games so wasn't sure if his keys are hardware based or not. So my comments were more about general key systems rather than any specific company's. Cheers! On 9/1/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: I was refering to Liam's system, speciffically, which I think if memory serves me correctly, is hardware based. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, Yeah, using a slate and stylist is a total pain. I actually have one, but have never been good at it so haven't used it much. People have tried to get me to get better at it, but I just never have found a real need to sit down and practice with it. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lori, Yes. A 404 error means that the requested page is missing or can't be found. So simply put the link to the order page is broken because the requested page is unavailable for some reason. As far as external drives goes I have had a lot of success with Sea Gate drives. I have never tried Sony's drives, and don't have en experience with them to form an opinion about them. All I do know is that generally speaking buying an external drive shouldn't cause any accessibility issues given that they should just show up in Windows Explorer or File Explorer as just any other drive. As far as your issue with sighted people not understanding accessibility I get that a lot, too. Fortunately, I don't have to deal with them much since I generally know what I am doing, and don't have to try and explain it to sighted people since I just do it myself. It sounds like you could use a general VI users list where you can ask technical questions and get more accessible help than you are getting at home. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, it was a soney drive, my dad got it for me on the recomendation of his friend who has a professional computer business. Dad isn't very tech-minded, and the friend, while good with computers, doesn't seem to understand the concept of blind accessibility, hense he put avast on my computer, then wonders why it's suddenly full of viruses lol. I knew it wasn't accessible, but trying to spell it out to someone who is sighted and think they know it all is like pulling teeth in this case. oh it'll be fine, and if not, ask for sighted help grrr! Anyway, I decided on copying my product ids for my l-works games and sending them to Liam to see if that made life any easier for him, the id for Super Liam is now on my clipboard, but on being taken to the order page, i get a 404 file not found message, which I think means the link is somehow broken. Do you know what 404 means? I'll try anyway to post the id and see if I can awaken Liam from his slumbers with some of my demonic singing! :) From lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, You definitely show your age when you mention slate and stylus. In my experience most younger blind people don't even know how to use one let alone use it. With the growth of technology I only see braille solutions like a slate and stylus becoming even less relevant to blind users. For example, in the 90's and early 2000's something like the slate and stylus became obsolete when the VI market was flooded with note takers like the Braille N' Speak, Type N' Speak, Braille Light, Braille Plus, Pac Mate, etc. Now days a blind person is more likely to grab their iPhone or iPad to jot down a quick note than anything else. There is definitely a good reason for that. When I first started losing my vision my VI teacher tried to teach me how to use a slate and stylus along with using a brailler. Quite frankly I never got the hang of the slate and stylus and even though I could use it I found it painfully slow and tedious. So by the time I went to junior high I got my parents to buy me a Braille N' Speak and I put my slate and stylus in a drawer and pretty much forgot about it. Most of my peers did the same. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, That may be the case, but ultimately he is directly responsible for what happens. If nobody wants to buy his games due to poor support then that it is his fault not theirs. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark and all, Just thought I would point out the name of the brand is Sea Gate not See Gate in case anyone wants to go looking for that brand of external drive. I will personally vouch for Sea Gate drives, because I have two of them and they have been far more reliable then Western Digital in my experience. As for Passport drives I have owned a couple of those, and found them to be very problematic. They are basically a laptop drive in a plastic housing. I've had troubles with the USB chords going bad on them and needing to be replaced, and if you drop one it is toast. So I found flash drives more reliable for basic backups. On 9/1/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, I do see the problem, but usually as long as the game is installed on the same PC backing up the old keys will work provided it is the same PC. If reinstalling on the same PC and the keys don't work then the key is not hardware based and uses something else to unlock the product. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: And unfortunately Super Liam and Judgment Day don't use name-based keys, so backing them up really doesn't work. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Dark and all, Just thought I would point out the name of the brand is Sea Gate not See Gate in case anyone wants to go looking for that brand of external drive. I will personally vouch for Sea Gate drives, because I have two of them and they have been far more reliable then Western Digital in my experience. As for Passport drives I have owned a couple of those, and found them to be very problematic. They are basically a laptop drive in a plastic housing. I've had troubles with the USB chords going bad on them and needing to be replaced, and if you drop one it is toast. So I found flash drives more reliable for basic backups. On 9/1/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Which is basically my point. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, That may be the case, but ultimately he is directly responsible for what happens. If nobody wants to buy his games due to poor support then that it is his fault not theirs. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The machine's user code. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, I do see the problem, but usually as long as the game is installed on the same PC backing up the old keys will work provided it is the same PC. If reinstalling on the same PC and the keys don't work then the key is not hardware based and uses something else to unlock the product. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: And unfortunately Super Liam and Judgment Day don't use name-based keys, so backing them up really doesn't work. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm not fast at using them, but they sure do beat using ink. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, Yeah, using a slate and stylist is a total pain. I actually have one, but have never been good at it so haven't used it much. People have tried to get me to get better at it, but I just never have found a real need to sit down and practice with it. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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They sure are old technology, but they only cost $20 or so compared to thousands. No battery issues and very portable. Having said that, I don't use them, either, but I do have one, and it is an affordable option for producing brailled game key info. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Charles, You definitely show your age when you mention slate and stylus. In my experience most younger blind people don't even know how to use one let alone use it. With the growth of technology I only see braille solutions like a slate and stylus becoming even less relevant to blind users. For example, in the 90's and early 2000's something like the slate and stylus became obsolete when the VI market was flooded with note takers like the Braille N' Speak, Type N' Speak, Braille Light, Braille Plus, Pac Mate, etc. Now days a blind person is more likely to grab their iPhone or iPad to jot down a quick note than anything else. There is definitely a good reason for that. When I first started losing my vision my VI teacher tried to teach me how to use a slate and stylus along with using a brailler. Quite frankly I never got the hang of the slate and stylus and even though I could use it I found it painfully slow and tedious. So by the time I went to junior high I got my parents to buy me a Braille N' Speak and I put my slate and stylus in a drawer and pretty much forgot about it. Most of my peers did the same. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Why not buy online where the prices are better and you don't have to find transportation to shop for them? I've never had a problem at all with www.amazon.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, What you call a memory stick are commonly called flash drives here in the US. Basically, it is just a long skinny plastic device with a cap on it you can take of and slide it into your USB port. To be honest I haven't paid too much attention to brands and just buy them based on price and the amount of memory available on them. There is another option available you might want to think about. You can buy a USB card reader which costs about $15, and you can put any size flash card in it which is nice. Of course you have to be careful with flash cards, but you can have several of them for a decent price and they are small enough to store in a desk drawer or in a container on your computer desk. Either way backup devices aren't that expensive. I don't know much about the UK to tell you where to get them, but I'm sure there has to be somewhere to get them for a fair price without going to Amazon, New Egg, or another online vender. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, I haven't had a problem with Amazon either. I have also gotten stuff from New Egg and a few other online stores as well. However, Lori seems a bit hesitant about buying online so she may have to look locally for something she wants. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Why not buy online where the prices are better and you don't have to find transportation to shop for them? I've never had a problem at all with www.amazon.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, No arguing with that. A slate and stylus is an inexpensive way to write down keys on a braille sheet of paper. It might be slow and tedious, but it is affordable and doesn't require sighted help. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: They sure are old technology, but they only cost $20 or so compared to thousands. No battery issues and very portable. Having said that, I don't use them, either, but I do have one, and it is an affordable option for producing brailled game key info. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi John, Wow. You are lucky you didn't send that drive to oblivion. However, it all depends on the drive. Some just can stand up to more of a beating than others. On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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So did I tom, a fuzzing hard drive I had died, I recovered to another drive. That drive went boom. After that I was able to get most data back from the broken first drive, and then I was able to get another drive. I got a second drive and now back the working external to the backup drive all the time as well as other stuff, though to be honest the backup drive is only used for the backup. When this drive dies I will use the backup drive as the primary drive and then buy another drive to use as backup. Hopefully this means that at any time I only need to replace one drive. Still its a hard lesson. A lot of people at least those a friend that did admin and website and system servicing found that a lot of people did not kep adaquit backups. At 03:10 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Laury, I have used western digital for years and bar one of my elements drives dieing on me after less than a year of use, both my my book and elements have gone ok. One thing to note that some of the drives like the my book are easy to knock over I have done this a few times, a cousin kicked his by mistake and it fell off his desk and its now just a brick. At 08:02 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I agree. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy his stuff because he seems to be never around to replace keys or issue new ones. While superliam is a constant key, once you have it its there but with judgement day every time you reformat or need to install the key is different again. At 07:09 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, While I do agree Liam needs to get his act together about key replacements and providing better support for his games I disagree about him giving them away for free. He put the time and work into creating them so deserves some compensation for that, and as a fellow developer can understand why he would be reluctant to just give them away. That said, I don't really understand why he isn't providing better support for them. Yes, I know he does have a real daytime job which would drastically effect how much free time he has to devoting to supporting his products. Nobody can fault him for that, but I do think he could probably manage his free time better. I realize it is easy for me to say this, but I would think he could devote at least a little time to L-Works support rather than doing something else with his free time be it watching TV,playing games, or whatever it is he does in his free time. It makes me question weather he really cares or not. Perhaps, though, I am being too harsh. I just don't know enough about why he isn't offering better support to accurately make a fair judgement about the situation. Still, even if he himself doesn't have free time he should be able to find a trusted friend, relative, or appoint a fellow game developer to redistribute product keys and help manage the business end of things of L-Works rather than let things hang. Again, easy for me to say, but it would potentially be an option to offer his customers something rather than seemingly ignoring them. Last of all he could always write or higher someone to write some automated system which would ideally be the best way to handle support. The automated system would be available 24/7 and only require minimal oversight. That way he would be free to do whatever he needed to do while having an automated system overseeing the business end of the business. The point being here is I know Liam could probably do something, and for that reason I don't believe just giving his games away for free is the right answer. However, he does need to do something as it feels like a lot of people have been left in the lurch by his lack of attention to L-Works the last few years. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well I did get a couple but really never got into those that much. I had a perkins and a older lavinder braille unit to start off with. Sadly I was in the age before electronic braille came mainstream I was always lugging it round. I did use a braille to standard print unit for a time and did begin to start with electronic braille but for whatever reason it never happened right. After I graduated to a querty board except for math there seemed little reason to read braille let alone write it, the books were to heavy, and I always dropped the unit, fell down the stairs with it or smashed it into or hit it with things not to mention the frucking keys kept breaking and had to be tied together with paperclips. If I restarted school today I'd have an electronic braille note or simular and I think they are pushing macs in a big way now. At 11:27 a.m. 2/09/2014, you wrote: Hi Charles, You definitely show your age when you mention slate and stylus. In my experience most younger blind people don't even know how to use one let alone use it. With the growth of technology I only see braille solutions like a slate and stylus becoming even less relevant to blind users. For example, in the 90's and early 2000's something like the slate and stylus became obsolete when the VI market was flooded with note takers like the Braille N' Speak, Type N' Speak, Braille Light, Braille Plus, Pac Mate, etc. Now days a blind person is more likely to grab their iPhone or iPad to jot down a quick note than anything else. There is definitely a good reason for that. When I first started losing my vision my VI teacher tried to teach me how to use a slate and stylus along with using a brailler. Quite frankly I never got the hang of the slate and stylus and even though I could use it I found it painfully slow and tedious. So by the time I went to junior high I got my parents to buy me a Braille N' Speak and I put my slate and stylus in a drawer and pretty much forgot about it. Most of my peers did the same. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, you are right. Most people don't keep adequate backups of their stuff. Not even me. What a lot of people fail to realize is they often times need to keep backups of their backups just in case their primary backup system gets damaged or destroyed. Its happened to me, and I am sure has happened to plenty of others as well. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: So did I tom, a fuzzing hard drive I had died, I recovered to another drive. That drive went boom. After that I was able to get most data back from the broken first drive, and then I was able to get another drive. I got a second drive and now back the working external to the backup drive all the time as well as other stuff, though to be honest the backup drive is only used for the backup. When this drive dies I will use the backup drive as the primary drive and then buy another drive to use as backup. Hopefully this means that at any time I only need to replace one drive. Still its a hard lesson. A lot of people at least those a friend that did admin and website and system servicing found that a lot of people did not kep adaquit backups. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, Good grief! You sound like an absolute klutz. While I have broken a couple of Braille N' speaks in my time mostly because I was being careless I can't say I smashed them into things, fell down the stairs with one, or had any issues with the keys. For the most part I did my best to take care of the notetakers I had, because they were expensive and I had to absolutely keep mine in working order. However, I think we are drifting way off topic. So ask that we steer things back to the topic at hand or close it. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well I did get a couple but really never got into those that much. I had a perkins and a older lavinder braille unit to start off with. Sadly I was in the age before electronic braille came mainstream I was always lugging it round. I did use a braille to standard print unit for a time and did begin to start with electronic braille but for whatever reason it never happened right. After I graduated to a querty board except for math there seemed little reason to read braille let alone write it, the books were to heavy, and I always dropped the unit, fell down the stairs with it or smashed it into or hit it with things not to mention the frucking keys kept breaking and had to be tied together with paperclips. If I restarted school today I'd have an electronic braille note or simular and I think they are pushing macs in a big way now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
well He was a member of audyssey I think. I saw his personal website yesterday and there is only one post which we write in this year. Thanks Ishan On 8/31/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I would not expect him to make his games free. If he did that, what would he earn from his work? That's asking far too much. What I think he should do is to have someone who is willing to do so, take charge of the key replacements, or, as previously suggested by list members, go to an automated system of registration. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Ishan, Yes, Liam use to be a member of this list. However, I'd have to check the membership to see if he is still a list member. That's not really here nor there since it does not really resolve the problem user's are having with getting their keys replaced. On 8/31/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: well He was a member of audyssey I think. I saw his personal website yesterday and there is only one post which we write in this year. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I agree to all this, I have tried time and time again to get codes but his email though I get no erros back don't give me a resonce. I have seen some cracks for his games and to be honest, i have thought about pirating his stuff, I know him so I won't but his being gone for so long really does not help him any. I have had him streaming to me for some time so I have some good friendships with him at least for a few years while on msn, and also with a few other gings in past years, but good will can only go so far and I am starting to have doubts. Its like he has vanished off the earth with no trace. Its good I got time to play his stuff when he was still round because I spent a good 60 bucks on sl and jd and to be honest who knows. Lorry, its strange your external hard drive got corrupted because of a virus and a virus destroyed your hard drive needing it to get replaced, maybe a reformat but never replacement and I have never had an external get corrupted like that, windows from time to time says the drive needs reformatting or is corrupted but its not, its just windows being stupid I have had a drive die on me well 2 of them physically explode and die but I think someone is having a laugh at your expence. At 07:33 a.m. 31/08/2014, you wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
can someone know his facebook ID Thanks Ishan On 8/30/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I don't know, he was a good guy but I hardly see him his l-works twitter has not been updated in ages. And as for the 2 games I legally own superliam and judgement day I have given up registering them on my systems. In fact if he is gone I won't buy his stuff because I can't get hime to register anything even though I try to do so. At 02:35 a.m. 30/08/2014, you wrote: Agreed. I was asked to re-purchase Super Egg Hunt Plus as a gift for a friend as they lost the key. Fortunately I still had the key tooked away somewhere so not a penny was wasted and was able to give it them again. Strangely this game does use an automated system but not his other titles. This is nonsense to me because of inconsistencies. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 29/08/2014 01:07, loriduncan wrote: Hi, does anyone know whatâ EURO (tm)s happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if heâ EURO (tm)s too busy or doesnâ EURO (tm)t want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, Iâ EURO (tm)m sad Iâ EURO (tm)m unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too.From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. /x-flowed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Well if he ever wanted someone to handle all his orders and keys I'd probably take that on as well as other part time projects I am doing. ofcause it would have to be a team of people incase one got sick but who knows. personally I would stop short of pirating his games but not by much. If he is still gone next year or even next month then all bets are off. I knew him as a completely random guy everything was random but even for him this really is over his randomness just a bit its been a concern for a while the only reason I don't jump on him is that while I still do buy games I seem to have less and less time to really get down and have a good bash at the controls. Usually its what I am testing, mostly I don't have time but when I do have a bit I do go at it. At 08:13 a.m. 31/08/2014, you wrote: I would not expect him to make his games free. If he did that, what would he earn from his work? That's asking far too much. What I think he should do is to have someone who is willing to do so, take charge of the key replacements, or, as previously suggested by list members, go to an automated system of registration. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori, While I do agree Liam needs to get his act together about key replacements and providing better support for his games I disagree about him giving them away for free. He put the time and work into creating them so deserves some compensation for that, and as a fellow developer can understand why he would be reluctant to just give them away. That said, I don't really understand why he isn't providing better support for them. Yes, I know he does have a real daytime job which would drastically effect how much free time he has to devoting to supporting his products. Nobody can fault him for that, but I do think he could probably manage his free time better. I realize it is easy for me to say this, but I would think he could devote at least a little time to L-Works support rather than doing something else with his free time be it watching TV,playing games, or whatever it is he does in his free time. It makes me question weather he really cares or not. Perhaps, though, I am being too harsh. I just don't know enough about why he isn't offering better support to accurately make a fair judgement about the situation. Still, even if he himself doesn't have free time he should be able to find a trusted friend, relative, or appoint a fellow game developer to redistribute product keys and help manage the business end of things of L-Works rather than let things hang. Again, easy for me to say, but it would potentially be an option to offer his customers something rather than seemingly ignoring them. Last of all he could always write or higher someone to write some automated system which would ideally be the best way to handle support. The automated system would be available 24/7 and only require minimal oversight. That way he would be free to do whatever he needed to do while having an automated system overseeing the business end of the business. The point being here is I know Liam could probably do something, and for that reason I don't believe just giving his games away for free is the right answer. However, he does need to do something as it feels like a lot of people have been left in the lurch by his lack of attention to L-Works the last few years. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Ishan, I think you meant to ask, does anyone know his Facebook ID. Using can as you did completely changes the nature of the question. Anyway, I personally don't know his Facebook ID, assuming he has one, but it isn't hard to check. Moreover I know Liam is on Twitter and it shouldn't be difficult to find his Twitter feed. I don't have the time right now or I might look for you guys so you can try and find him via social media. On 8/30/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: can someone know his facebook ID Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Product keys change according to what machine you run it on. At 01:10 PM 9/1/2014, you wrote: Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Stephen, Yes and no. It all depends on how the product key system was designed and weather or not they are hardware specific. Simple name and key systems, for example, will work on any computer provided the end user provides the correct user name and product key. Therefore, in a case like that backing up the correct registration information is the easiest way to insure the end user has a working product key when they need to reinstall, buy a new PC, whatever. If it is a hardware based product key then I would agree the developer needs to be able to provide new keys when the hardware on the end user's computer changes. On 8/31/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: Product keys change according to what machine you run it on. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Desiree Oudinot Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi, Yeah, from everything I've heard, this isn't unusual. I personally feel that it isn't right to make people wait for months for keys that they purchased. A similar thing happened to one of my friends, he had to wait for several months to get his keys. Unfortunately, not long after that, his computer got stolen while he was on vacation. So now he's going through that frustrating process all over again. If someone really doesn't have time to manually replace keys, an automated system should definitely be put in place. Even if the structure of the licensing system wasn't changed, which would require a rewrite of some of the game's code, I assume, how difficult would it be to create a system like BSC Games used to have, where you entered your registration info on the website, and your code was emailed to you? I'm not trying to be snarky by asking that, either, I'm genuinely curious about whether that would be a feasible solution to this problem, since the current way, as it stands, has been causing frustration to customers for several years. On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Desiree --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I would not expect him to make his games free. If he did that, what would he earn from his work? That's asking far too much. What I think he should do is to have someone who is willing to do so, take charge of the key replacements, or, as previously suggested by list members, go to an automated system of registration. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Agreed. I was asked to re-purchase Super Egg Hunt Plus as a gift for a friend as they lost the key. Fortunately I still had the key tooked away somewhere so not a penny was wasted and was able to give it them again. Strangely this game does use an automated system but not his other titles. This is nonsense to me because of inconsistencies. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 29/08/2014 01:07, loriduncan wrote: Hi, does anyone know what’s happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he’s too busy or doesn’t want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I’m sad I’m unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Yeah, from everything I've heard, this isn't unusual. I personally feel that it isn't right to make people wait for months for keys that they purchased. A similar thing happened to one of my friends, he had to wait for several months to get his keys. Unfortunately, not long after that, his computer got stolen while he was on vacation. So now he's going through that frustrating process all over again. If someone really doesn't have time to manually replace keys, an automated system should definitely be put in place. Even if the structure of the licensing system wasn't changed, which would require a rewrite of some of the game's code, I assume, how difficult would it be to create a system like BSC Games used to have, where you entered your registration info on the website, and your code was emailed to you? I'm not trying to be snarky by asking that, either, I'm genuinely curious about whether that would be a feasible solution to this problem, since the current way, as it stands, has been causing frustration to customers for several years. On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Desiree --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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even I don't find him in audiogames.net forum. Philip liam and munawar they both are the same kind of person. they should inspire from david greenwood and give my account feature for their customer This way noone can crack their games and they can give a unique product key for their customers. Thanks Ishan On 8/30/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lori, Unfortunately, Liam hasn't been too communicative over the last couple of years so I personally have no idea what he is up to. That said, I agree he really does need to employ some sort of automated payment and key replacement system as a lot of people are growing tired of not receiving key replacements, questions about his lack of response to e-mails, etc. If he is unable to respond to e-mails and come up with timely key replacements then he needs to find some sort of automated system to do it for him. Cheers! On 8/28/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi if you have a question about his games and keys then you should contact his team or himself. These three guys Munawar philip and liam are very good producer of audio games but when I contact them they didn't reply if I receive his mail I'll forward his personal ID. Ishan On 8/29/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know what's happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he's too busy or doesn't want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I'm sad I'm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Yeah I don't know, he was a good guy but I hardly see him his l-works twitter has not been updated in ages. And as for the 2 games I legally own superliam and judgement day I have given up registering them on my systems. In fact if he is gone I won't buy his stuff because I can't get hime to register anything even though I try to do so. At 02:35 a.m. 30/08/2014, you wrote: Agreed. I was asked to re-purchase Super Egg Hunt Plus as a gift for a friend as they lost the key. Fortunately I still had the key tooked away somewhere so not a penny was wasted and was able to give it them again. Strangely this game does use an automated system but not his other titles. This is nonsense to me because of inconsistencies. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 29/08/2014 01:07, loriduncan wrote: Hi, does anyone know whatâs happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if heâs too busy or doesnât want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, Iâm sad Iâm unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too.From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. /x-flowed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi, does anyone know what’s happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if he’s too busy or doesn’t want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, I’m sad I’m unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
