RE: [gentoo-user] user limits, pam.d

2003-09-15 Thread Gwendolyn van der Linden
Mikhail P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So once user user logins via ssh, he supposed to have
 these limits (viewble
 via ulimit -a). However, it does not work - user still
 has 1024 in FD
 limit.
 Now if I su user from root, and type ulimit -a, I see
 that FD is 4048!

 Any suggestions where the problem could be?

Isn't 1024 a hard limit?  Especially if you use select() you have to
use a fixed size bitfield, which is IIRC 1024 bits long.  I'd say you
would need to do more than just raise the _allowed_ number of FDs per
process.

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[gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
My first question is:

1 Does someone have a standard operating proceedure for on how to troubleshoot package
compilation errors to get the most info possible to pass along to the list and/or 
Gentoo Forums?

2Is there a log that is kept somewhere in Gentoo when a package fails with errors? If 
so, where 
please?

My example below... This is the only one that I was able to catch from the shell 
output.. But
allot of others failed as well because when I do a emerge -uDp world it keeps 
listing the same
files that fail continously when I try emerge -uD world...

The bad thing is, is that these take forever to compile and then they fail right at 
the end. My
computer has spent all day compiling/upgrading 33 pkgs and these keep failing. I'm 
running with
all Gentoo 2.4.20r5 defaults with no modifications to the make.conf file what so 
ever.. So I
should only be receiving stable packages...NO?
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.1.3 [3.1.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.1.3 [3.1.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.1.3 [3.1.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.1.3 [3.1.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdepim-3.1.3 [3.1.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kde-3.1.3 [3.1.2]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/pciutils-2.1.11 [2.1.10-r1]


grep: /usr/lib/libungif.la: No such file or directory
sed: can't read /usr/lib/libungif.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libungif.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[3]: *** [kuickshow.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/kdegraphics-3.1.3/work/kdegraphics-3.1.3/kuickshow/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdegraphics-3.1.3/work/kdegraphics-3.1.3/kuickshow'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdegraphics-3.1.3/work/kdegraphics-3.1.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: kde-base/kdegraphics-3.1.3 failed.
!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 137, Exitcode 2
!!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make



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[gentoo-user] File is corrupt or incomplete.

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
I have dl twice and the same thing happened both times.

 md5 src_uri ;-) X430src-1.tgz
 md5 src_uri ;-) X430src-2.tgz
 md5 src_uri ;-) X430src-3.tgz

!!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)
 our recorded digest: 567903747018f2534965ab6cb3976b38
  your file's digest: 78e597cad8fdad38c7666dbd7eed73ff
!!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//X430src-4.tgz


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Re: [gentoo-user] clearing out distfiles?

2003-09-15 Thread Davide Brini
On 05:20, lunedì 15 settembre 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Is there anything in emerge/portage to remove files from
 /usr/portage/distfiles that have been superceded.

It seems to me that directory is just acting like a sort of portage cache in 
case you have to re-emerge some package, to avoid re-downloading it.

I was also going to ask this...can everything in /usr/portage/distfiles be 
safely removed (assuming I can re-download a package in case of need)?

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[gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Gour
Hi!

Recently I bought Gentoo 1.4 and installed it on my 2nd HD's free space
(WD - 80G) wanting to have a slow transition from SuSE to Gentoo (to keep old
mail, news ..).

I emerged binary packages of X  KDE and then started to slowly emerge
other components.

However, three days ago, my old HD (IBM) started to *die* and I can
clearly hear the sounds of imminent death. 

Now I bought a new HD - 120 G while my /home partition is on WD
(together with Gentoo install.)

Today I'm going to trash my old IBM HD (together with SuSE :-) and
install a new one, so I'm thinking about LVM install.

Do you recommend it for two HDs (120G  80G) install on home machine?

(the 80G HD I'd like to use mostly for future video-editing and I'm
used to have Reiser fs on my partitions - except /boot.)

In Gentoo's LVM docs it is recommended NOT to put 
/etc 
/lib 
/mnt 
/proc 
/sbin 
/dev 
/root  

in LVM partition. 

Any hint?


Sincerely,
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Re: [gentoo-user] clearing out distfiles?

2003-09-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:10:16 +0200 Davide Brini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| I was also going to ask this...can everything in
| /usr/portage/distfiles be safely removed (assuming I can re-download a
| package in case of need)?

Yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 15:43, Joshua Banks wrote:
 1 Does someone have a standard operating proceedure for on how to
 troubleshoot package compilation errors to get the most info possible to
 pass along to the list and/or Gentoo Forums?

There's not really a standard operating procedure, but the information you 
provided in this case was enough. Basically, you should submit:

1) The command immediately before the error happened onwards
2) The output of emerge info

You did number 1 and number 2 could be implied from you saying that you 
haven't changed make.conf...

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[gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
Hi,

I emerged gnome 2.4 overnight with:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gnome

I had to manually unmerge a few packages that were blocking, but it
seemed to go OK  I'm running it now.

How to I fix this?

atuin root # emerge -UpD world
 --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options.
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating world dependencies /
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 have been masked.!!!
(dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1 [ebuild])
 
!!! Problem with ebuild gnome-base/gconf-2.2.1
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
 
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

I'm a bit new to portage, but I guess I need to unmask some packages,
but I can't find xfree-4.3.0-r3 in package.mask...

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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Thanks Jason.

JBanks
--- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 15 September 2003 15:43, Joshua Banks wrote:
  1 Does someone have a standard operating proceedure for on how to
  troubleshoot package compilation errors to get the most info possible to
  pass along to the list and/or Gentoo Forums?
 
 There's not really a standard operating procedure, but the information you 
 provided in this case was enough. Basically, you should submit:
 
 1) The command immediately before the error happened onwards
 2) The output of emerge info
 
 You did number 1 and number 2 could be implied from you saying that you 
 haven't changed make.conf...
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 15. September 2003 08:57 schrieb Gour:
 Today I'm going to trash my old IBM HD (together with SuSE :-) and
 install a new one, so I'm thinking about LVM install.

 Do you recommend it for two HDs (120G  80G) install on home machine?

Yes, why not? I'd use EVMS, though.

 In Gentoo's LVM docs it is recommended NOT to put
 /etc
 /lib
 /mnt
 /proc
 /sbin
 /dev
 /root

 in LVM partition.

Hmm, the list above combines to /. So unless you use an initrd to do the 
volume discovery at boot time, you should leave /boot and / on standard 
partitions, the rest can be on LVM volumes. However, if you think you'll 
need to resize / anytime in the future, use an initrd and put / on LVM 
also.

I've got a some shell code to create an initrd for EVMS, which you could use 
as starting point for your own, if you want.

HTH...

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[gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread bob bob
Last night I did an emerge sync last night followed by a emerge -uD world
when it had finished i had 24 ._cfg_. type files that needed changing..
This was a VERY laborious task to complete.. and made even more annoying by 
the fact that some of the cfg file it wanted me to change were no different 
from the other other ones apart from the date at the top of the file!!

Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of script 
that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the 
two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..

Anyone else have input into this?



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2003-09-15 Thread Lutz Feldgen
Hi there,

would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
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It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 08:23, bob bob wrote:

 Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of script 
 that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the 
 two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..

That's exactly what etc-update does. I used it last night to update 72
config files. Easy as pie.

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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Lloyd D Budd
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:23, bob bob wrote:
 Last night I did an emerge sync last night followed by a emerge -uD world
 when it had finished i had 24 ._cfg_. type files that needed changing..
 This was a VERY laborious task to complete.. and made even more annoying by 
 the fact that some of the cfg file it wanted me to change were no different 
 from the other other ones apart from the date at the top of the file!!
 
 Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of script 
 that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the 
 two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..
 
 Anyone else have input into this?

etc-update , pkg portage.  Also see /etc/etc-update.conf

I remember seeing a cfg file where you can set portage|etc-update to
automatically update cfg files that have not been manually cfgd?

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 16:28, Lutz Feldgen wrote:
 It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
 filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
 select by recipient-address.

The following headers are in each message:

Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can't use any of those? List-Id would probably be perfect, no?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks

When I,
bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
Calculating dependencies ...done!
 emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /

It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the end


* You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
 * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
 * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
 Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
 clean: No packages selected for removal.

 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 Auto-cleaning packages ...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.


 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
  Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
  Size of downloaded files: 294 kB

So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with # then its using
make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO? 

Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember making this 
file or making
a symlink to this file..Is your system setup like this?

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4

So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf? 


bash-2.05b#less make.defaults

USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif gpm gtk imlib
java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis
opengl pam pdflib png python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl
svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib

ARCH=x86
COMPILER=gcc3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86


Do I just leave everthing alone and try and emerge KDEgraphics again or should I go 
into the file
above and UNSET gif?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Lloyd D Budd
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:10, Terry Churchill wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I emerged gnome 2.4 overnight with:
 
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gnome
 
 I had to manually unmerge a few packages that were blocking, but it
 seemed to go OK  I'm running it now.
 
 How to I fix this?
 
 atuin root # emerge -UpD world
  --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options.
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
  
 Calculating world dependencies /
 !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 have been masked.!!!  
   (dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1 [ebuild])
  
 !!! Problem with ebuild gnome-base/gconf-2.2.1
 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
  
 !!! Depgraph creation failed.
 
 I'm a bit new to portage, but I guess I need to unmask some packages,
 but I can't find xfree-4.3.0-r3 in package.mask...


I am also fairly new to portage.  My guess would be that xfree-4.3.0-r3
only has ~arch, and that the depend/requirement was updated after you
did your gnome emerge.

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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Hey Terry,

Which option do you usually choose?
-1
-3
-5
??
JBanks


--- Terry Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 08:23, bob bob wrote:
 
  Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of script 
  that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the 
  two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..
 
 That's exactly what etc-update does. I used it last night to update 72
 config files. Easy as pie.
 
 HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 16:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
 bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
 Calculating dependencies ...done!

  emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /

snip

 * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
  * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
  * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this

  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
  Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
  clean: No packages selected for removal.
 
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  Auto-cleaning packages ...
 
  No outdated packages were found on your system.

  * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

 I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
 Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
   Size of downloaded files: 294 kB

 So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with #
 then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?

 Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember
 making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your system setup
 like this?

 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
 ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4

 So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?

snip

 Do I just leave everthing alone and try and emerge KDEgraphics again or
 should I go into the file above and UNSET gif?


make.conf is used to override the defaults for the architecture (or more 
specifically the profile). The link above was set when you extracted your 
stage[1..3] tarball. You should never edit anything in /usr/portage because 
it'll just get overwritten when you emerge sync.

As for giflib and libungif, libungif provides functionality that giflib 
already contains. The ebuild is aware of this and (I'm guessing) links 
against giflib instead of using its own implementation.

It seems, from the error messages you first provided, that kdegraphics 
requires libungif regardless of the use flags but that the ebuild doesn't 
show the explicit dependency. If you now try to emerge kdegraphics and it 
works, then that is definately the case and thus a bug report is required... 

Make sense?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Lloyd D Budd
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
 When I,
 bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
  emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
 
 It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the end
 
 
 * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
  * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
  * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
  Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
  clean: No packages selected for removal.
 
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  Auto-cleaning packages ...
 
  No outdated packages were found on your system.
 
 
  * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
 
 I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
 Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
   Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
Possibly remerge this.

 So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with # then its 
 using
 make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO? 
Yes.

 Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember making this 
 file or making
 a symlink to this file..Is your system setup like this?
Yes

 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
 ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
 
 So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf? 
For your modifications to the USE var.


 bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
 
 USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif gpm gtk imlib
 java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis
 opengl pam pdflib png python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl
 svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
 
 ARCH=x86
 COMPILER=gcc3
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86

Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'


 Do I just leave everthing alone and try and emerge KDEgraphics again or should I go 
 into the file
 above and UNSET gif?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 16:10, Terry Churchill wrote:
(B Hi,
(B
(B I emerged gnome 2.4 overnight with:
(B
(B ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge gnome
(B
(B I had to manually unmerge a few packages that were blocking, but it
(B seemed to go OK  I'm running it now.
(B
(B How to I fix this?
(B
(B atuin root # emerge -UpD world
(B
(BI would suggest not using -U at all - use -u instead. If your running ~x86 
(Bthen things rarely get downgraded. If your not, it's better to copy the ~x86 
(Bpackages you want to your overlay directory and change the ~x86 to x86 there.
(B
(B  --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options.
(B
(B These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
(B
(B Calculating world dependencies /
(B !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "=x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3" have been
(B masked.!!!(dependency required by "x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1" [ebuild])
(B
(B !!! Problem with ebuild gnome-base/gconf-2.2.1
(B !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
(B
(B !!! Depgraph creation failed.
(B
(B I'm a bit new to portage, but I guess I need to unmask some packages,
(B but I can't find xfree-4.3.0-r3 in package.mask...
(B
(BThe problem is in x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1. Look at the following:
(B
(B# Need this specific xfree version to get bugfree xinput support (#20407)
(BRDEPEND="=x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3
(B
(BI had a quick look at the bug and it does indeed have to do with xinput. It 
(Bwould seem that this is a mistake and it should read:
(B
(BRDEPEND="=x11-base/xfree-4.3.0
(B
(B
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
i emerged liobungif and decided to emerge kdegraphics to see what would happen 
and it seems to be doing fine.

On Monday 15 September 2003 08:16 am, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
  When I,
  bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
  Calculating dependencies ...done!
 
   emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
 
  It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the end
 
 
  * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
   * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
   * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
 
   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
   media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
   Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
   clean: No packages selected for removal.
  
   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
   Auto-cleaning packages ...
  
   No outdated packages were found on your system.
 
   * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
 
  I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
  Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
Size of downloaded files: 294 kB

 Possibly remerge this.

  So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with #
  then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?

 Yes.

  Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember
  making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your system setup
  like this?

 Yes

  lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
  ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
 
  So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?

 For your modifications to the USE var.

  bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
 
  USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif
  gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mpeg
  ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png python qt quicktime readline
  sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
 
  ARCH=x86
  COMPILER=gcc3
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86

 Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'

  Do I just leave everthing alone and try and emerge KDEgraphics again or
  should I go into the file above and UNSET gif?

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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:03, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Hey Terry,
 
 Which option do you usually choose?
 -1
 -3
 -5

I think it was -1, whichever one overwrites the current one with the new
one. I scan the list first to make sure there's none that I do want to
keep first though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] File is corrupt or incomplete.

2003-09-15 Thread MAL
Chris wrote:
I have dl twice and the same thing happened both times.


md5 src_uri ;-) X430src-1.tgz
md5 src_uri ;-) X430src-2.tgz
md5 src_uri ;-) X430src-3.tgz


!!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)

our recorded digest: 567903747018f2534965ab6cb3976b38
your file's digest: 78e597cad8fdad38c7666dbd7eed73ff
!!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//X430src-4.tgz
Try changing your mirrors using mirrorselect -i (emerge mirrorselect).

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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
(B On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
(B  When I,
(B  bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
(B  Calculating dependencies ...done!
(B 
(B   emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
(B 
(B  It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the end
(B 
(B 
(B  * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
(B   * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
(B   * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
(B 
(B   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
(B   media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
(B   Recording media-libs/libungif in "world" favorites file...
(B   clean: No packages selected for removal.
(B  
(B   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
(B   Auto-cleaning packages ...
(B  
(B   No outdated packages were found on your system.
(B 
(B   * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
(B 
(B  I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
(B  Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
(BLatest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
(BSize of downloaded files: 294 kB
(B
(B Possibly remerge this.
(B
(BI hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless you have 
(Badvice to give. What does "possibly" mean? Why should he "possible" remerge 
(Bit?
(B
(B  So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with #
(B  then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?
(B
(B Yes.
(B
(BAlso try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used. The only 
(Btime it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the start of your 
(BUSE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base. Actually, the default 
(Border can also be changed - look in make.globals to find out how and add the 
(Bchange to make.conf if you wish.
(B
(B  Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember
(B  making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your system setup
(B  like this?
(B
(B Yes
(B
(BBasically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults. That's 
(Bwhere the defaults are kept.
(B
(B  lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
(B  ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
(B 
(B  So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?
(B
(B For your modifications to the USE var.
(B
(BAnd any other vars...
(B
(B  bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
(B 
(B  USE="x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif
(B  gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mpeg
(B  ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png python qt quicktime readline
(B  sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib"
(B 
(B  ARCH="x86"
(B  COMPILER="gcc3"
(B  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
(B
(B Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
(B
(BAgain, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then you know 
(Bwhere the use flags are coming from.
(B
(B
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out. 

I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same error I will file a 
bug.

Thanks again..very much appreciated.. 

Joshua Banks
--- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
   When I,
   bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
  
emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
  
   It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the end
  
  
   * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
* the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
* giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
  
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
clean: No packages selected for removal.
   
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
Auto-cleaning packages ...
   
No outdated packages were found on your system.
  
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
  
   I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
   Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
 Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
 Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
 
  Possibly remerge this.
 
 I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless you have 
 advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he possible remerge 
 it?
 
   So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with #
   then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?
 
  Yes.
 
 Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used. The only 
 time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the start of your 
 USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base. Actually, the default 
 order can also be changed - look in make.globals to find out how and add the 
 change to make.conf if you wish.
 
   Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember
   making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your system setup
   like this?
 
  Yes
 
 Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults. That's 
 where the defaults are kept.
 
   lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
   ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
  
   So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?
 
  For your modifications to the USE var.
 
 And any other vars...
 
   bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
  
   USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif
   gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mpeg
   ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png python qt quicktime readline
   sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
  
   ARCH=x86
   COMPILER=gcc3
   ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
 
  Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
 
 Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then you know 
 where the use flags are coming from.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:22, Jason Stubbs wrote:

 I would suggest not using -U at all - use -u instead. If your running ~x86 
 then things rarely get downgraded. If your not, it's better to copy the ~x86 
 packages you want to your overlay directory and change the ~x86 to x86 there.

Thanks, that makes sense. Whilst on this subject, is it safe to upgrade
to ~x86, or is this better done during the initial installation?

 The problem is in x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1. Look at the following:
 
 # Need this specific xfree version to get bugfree xinput support (#20407)
 RDEPEND==x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3
 
 I had a quick look at the bug and it does indeed have to do with xinput. It 
 would seem that this is a mistake and it should read:
 
 RDEPEND==x11-base/xfree-4.3.0

Yep, found that. Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 17:47, Terry Churchill wrote:
(B On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:22, Jason Stubbs wrote:
(B  I would suggest not using -U at all - use -u instead. If your running
(B  ~x86 then things rarely get downgraded. If your not, it's better to copy
(B  the ~x86 packages you want to your overlay directory and change the ~x86
(B  to x86 there.
(B
(B Thanks, that makes sense. Whilst on this subject, is it safe to upgrade
(B to ~x86, or is this better done during the initial installation?
(B
(BErrr... It's as safe to upgrade to ~x86 as it is to do it from the initial 
(Binstallation. How safe it is to run ~x86 is another story! ;-) If you found 
(Bthe gtk+ issue okay, then your probably okay to run everything like that.
(B
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
kdegraphics just finished installing with no errors if anyone wants to know

On Monday 15 September 2003 08:38 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out.

 I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same error I
 will file a bug.

 Thanks again..very much appreciated..

 Joshua Banks

 --- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
   On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
When I,
bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
Calculating dependencies ...done!
   
 emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
   
It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the
end
   
   
* You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
 * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
 * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
   
 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
 Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
 clean: No packages selected for removal.

 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 Auto-cleaning packages ...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.
   
 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
   
I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
  Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
  Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
  
   Possibly remerge this.
 
  I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless you
  have advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he possible
  remerge it?
 
So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented
with # then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?
  
   Yes.
 
  Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used. The
  only time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the start
  of your USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base. Actually, the
  default order can also be changed - look in make.globals to find out how
  and add the change to make.conf if you wish.
 
Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't
remember making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your
system setup like this?
  
   Yes
 
  Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults. That's
  where the defaults are kept.
 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile
- ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
   
So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?
  
   For your modifications to the USE var.
 
  And any other vars...
 
bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
   
USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm
gif gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx
motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png python qt
quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms
xv zlib
   
ARCH=x86
COMPILER=gcc3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
  
   Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
 
  Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then you
  know where the use flags are coming from.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Hey Chris,
Is this after you emerged media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b

Thanks,
Joshua Banks
--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 kdegraphics just finished installing with no errors if anyone wants to know
 
 On Monday 15 September 2003 08:38 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
  Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out.
 
  I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same error I
  will file a bug.
 
  Thanks again..very much appreciated..
 
  Joshua Banks
 
  --- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
 When I,
 bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
 Calculating dependencies ...done!

  emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /

 It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the
 end


 * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
  * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
  * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this

  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
  Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
  clean: No packages selected for removal.
 
  Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
  Auto-cleaning packages ...
 
  No outdated packages were found on your system.

  * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

 I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
 Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
   Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
   
Possibly remerge this.
  
   I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless you
   have advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he possible
   remerge it?
  
 So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented
 with # then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?
   
Yes.
  
   Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used. The
   only time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the start
   of your USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base. Actually, the
   default order can also be changed - look in make.globals to find out how
   and add the change to make.conf if you wish.
  
 Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't
 remember making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your
 system setup like this?
   
Yes
  
   Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults. That's
   where the defaults are kept.
  
 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile
 - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4

 So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?
   
For your modifications to the USE var.
  
   And any other vars...
  
 bash-2.05b#less make.defaults

 USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm
 gif gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx
 motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png python qt
 quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms
 xv zlib

 ARCH=x86
 COMPILER=gcc3
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
   
Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
  
   Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then you
   know where the use flags are coming from.
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
yes (emerge libungif) and it fixed the prob for me 

On Monday 15 September 2003 09:19 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Hey Chris,
 Is this after you emerged media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b

 Thanks,
 Joshua Banks

 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  kdegraphics just finished installing with no errors if anyone wants to
  know
 
  On Monday 15 September 2003 08:38 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
   Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out.
  
   I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same
   error I will file a bug.
  
   Thanks again..very much appreciated..
  
   Joshua Banks
  
   --- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
  When I,
  bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
  Calculating dependencies ...done!
 
   emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
 
  It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the
  end
 
 
  * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
   * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
   * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge
  this
 
   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
   media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
   Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
   clean: No packages selected for removal.
  
   Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
   Auto-cleaning packages ...
  
   No outdated packages were found on your system.
 
   * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
 
  I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
  Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
Size of downloaded files: 294 kB

 Possibly remerge this.
   
I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless
you have advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he
possible remerge it?
   
  So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented
  with # then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults?
  NO?

 Yes.
   
Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used.
The only time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the
start of your USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base.
Actually, the default order can also be changed - look in
make.globals to find out how and add the change to make.conf if you
wish.
   
  Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't
  remember making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is
  your system setup like this?

 Yes
   
Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults.
That's where the defaults are kept.
   
  lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42
  make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
 
  So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?

 For your modifications to the USE var.
   
And any other vars...
   
  bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
 
  USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb
  gdbm gif gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad
  mikmod mmx motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png
  python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd
  truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
 
  ARCH=x86
  COMPILER=gcc3
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86

 Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
   
Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then
you know where the use flags are coming from.
   
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
its compiling kdeadmin now

On Monday 15 September 2003 04:25 am, Chris wrote:
 yes (emerge libungif) and it fixed the prob for me

 On Monday 15 September 2003 09:19 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
  Hey Chris,
  Is this after you emerged media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b
 
  Thanks,
  Joshua Banks
 
  --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   kdegraphics just finished installing with no errors if anyone wants to
   know
  
   On Monday 15 September 2003 08:38 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out.
   
I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same
error I will file a bug.
   
Thanks again..very much appreciated..
   
Joshua Banks
   
--- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
   When I,
   bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
  
emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
  
   It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the
   end
  
  
   * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
* the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
* giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge
   this
  
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
clean: No packages selected for removal.
   
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
Auto-cleaning packages ...
   
No outdated packages were found on your system.
  
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
  
   I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
   Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
 Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
 Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
 
  Possibly remerge this.

 I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless
 you have advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he
 possible remerge it?

   So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is
   commented with # then its using make.profile and sourcing
   make.defaults? NO?
 
  Yes.

 Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used.
 The only time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at
 the start of your USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the
 base. Actually, the default order can also be changed - look in
 make.globals to find out how and add the change to make.conf if you
 wish.

   Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't
   remember making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is
   your system setup like this?
 
  Yes

 Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults.
 That's where the defaults are kept.

   lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42
   make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
  
   So if its using this file below then whats the use of
   make.conf?
 
  For your modifications to the USE var.

 And any other vars...

   bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
  
   USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb
   gdbm gif gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad
   mikmod mmx motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib
   png python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd
   truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
  
   ARCH=x86
   COMPILER=gcc3
   ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
 
  Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'

 Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then
 you know where the use flags are coming from.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Hey Jason,

What does -* do in the USE section of make.conf? Isn't that like saying don't use any
variables.??

Joshua Banks
--- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
   When I,
   bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
  
emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
  
   It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the end
  
  
   * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
* the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
* giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge this
  
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
clean: No packages selected for removal.
   
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
Auto-cleaning packages ...
   
No outdated packages were found on your system.
  
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
  
   I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
   Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
 Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
 Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
 
  Possibly remerge this.
 
 I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless you have 
 advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he possible remerge 
 it?
 
   So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented with #
   then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults? NO?
 
  Yes.
 
 Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used. The only 
 time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the start of your 
 USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base. Actually, the default 
 order can also be changed - look in make.globals to find out how and add the 
 change to make.conf if you wish.
 
   Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't remember
   making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is your system setup
   like this?
 
  Yes
 
 Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults. That's 
 where the defaults are kept.
 
   lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42 make.profile -
   ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
  
   So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?
 
  For your modifications to the USE var.
 
 And any other vars...
 
   bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
  
   USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif
   gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mpeg
   ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png python qt quicktime readline
   sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
  
   ARCH=x86
   COMPILER=gcc3
   ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
 
  Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
 
 Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then you know 
 where the use flags are coming from.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Thanks for the confirmation Chris.

Joshua Banks
--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yes (emerge libungif) and it fixed the prob for me 
 
 On Monday 15 September 2003 09:19 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
  Hey Chris,
  Is this after you emerged media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b
 
  Thanks,
  Joshua Banks
 
  --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   kdegraphics just finished installing with no errors if anyone wants to
   know
  
   On Monday 15 September 2003 08:38 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out.
   
I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same
error I will file a bug.
   
Thanks again..very much appreciated..
   
Joshua Banks
   
--- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
   When I,
   bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
  
emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
  
   It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at the
   end
  
  
   * You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you want
* the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you have
* giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and remerge
   this
  
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites file...
clean: No packages selected for removal.
   
Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
Auto-cleaning packages ...
   
No outdated packages were found on your system.
  
* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
  
   I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
   Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
 Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
 Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
 
  Possibly remerge this.

 I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice unless
 you have advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why should he
 possible remerge it?

   So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is commented
   with # then its using make.profile and sourcing make.defaults?
   NO?
 
  Yes.

 Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always used.
 The only time it isn't is when you've done like me and have -* at the
 start of your USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as the base.
 Actually, the default order can also be changed - look in
 make.globals to find out how and add the change to make.conf if you
 wish.

   Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't
   remember making this file or making a symlink to this file..Is
   your system setup like this?
 
  Yes

 Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of defaults.
 That's where the defaults are kept.

   lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42
   make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
  
   So if its using this file below then whats the use of make.conf?
 
  For your modifications to the USE var.

 And any other vars...

   bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
  
   USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb
   gdbm gif gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad
   mikmod mmx motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib png
   python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd
   truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
  
   ARCH=x86
   COMPILER=gcc3
   ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
 
  Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'

 Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least then
 you know where the use flags are coming from.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks

--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its compiling kdeadmin now


Great!!! Let me know how it goes. It's still compiling kdegraphics on my end..
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
no prob   sorry about the gaps in info i am fighting a cold and cold med while 
doing this

On Monday 15 September 2003 09:39 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Thanks for the confirmation Chris.

 Joshua Banks

 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yes (emerge libungif) and it fixed the prob for me
 
  On Monday 15 September 2003 09:19 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
   Hey Chris,
   Is this after you emerged media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b
  
   Thanks,
   Joshua Banks
  
   --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
kdegraphics just finished installing with no errors if anyone wants
to know
   
On Monday 15 September 2003 08:38 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Thanks again Jason for getting me straightened out.

 I'll go for the emerge again of KDEgraphic's and if I get the same
 error I will file a bug.

 Thanks again..very much appreciated..

 Joshua Banks

 --- Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 15 September 2003 17:16, Lloyd D Budd wrote:
   On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 03:58, Joshua Banks wrote:
When I,
bash-2.05b# emerge  libungif
Calculating dependencies ...done!
   
 emerge (1 of 1) media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b to /
   
It unpacks source and does its thing and then says this at
the end
   
   
* You had the gif USE flag set, so it is assumed that you
want * the binary from giflib instead.  Please make sure you
have * giflib emerged.  Otherwise, unset the gif flag and
remerge this
   
 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b merged.
 Recording media-libs/libungif in world favorites
 file... clean: No packages selected for removal.

 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 Auto-cleaning packages ...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.
   
 * GNU info directory index is up-to-date.
   
I already have media-libs/giflib emerged:
Latest version available: 4.1.0-r3
  Latest version installed: 4.1.0-r3
  Size of downloaded files: 294 kB
  
   Possibly remerge this.
 
  I hate to sound rude but... please don't try to give advice
  unless you have advice to give. What does possibly mean? Why
  should he possible remerge it?
 
So now I'm assuming that since make.conf USE section is
commented with # then its using make.profile and sourcing
make.defaults? NO?
  
   Yes.
 
  Also try to be a bit more clearer... make.defaults is always
  used. The only time it isn't is when you've done like me and have
  -* at the start of your USE in make.conf. Otherwise it serves as
  the base. Actually, the default order can also be changed - look
  in make.globals to find out how and add the change to make.conf
  if you wish.
 
Alittle confused now as to why it's looking here when I don't
remember making this file or making a symlink to this
file..Is your system setup like this?
  
   Yes
 
  Basically, even a meta-distribution has to have a set of
  defaults. That's where the defaults are kept.
 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   39 Sep 11 17:42
make.profile - ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4
   
So if its using this file below then whats the use of
make.conf?
  
   For your modifications to the USE var.
 
  And any other vars...
 
bash-2.05b#less make.defaults
   
USE=x86 oss apm arts avi berkdb crypt cups encode foomaticdb
gdbm gif gpm gtk imlib java jpeg kde gnome libg++ libwww mad
mikmod mmx motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib
png python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga
tcpd truetype X xml2 xmms xv zlib
   
ARCH=x86
COMPILER=gcc3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
  
   Better to simply look at the output of 'emerge info'
 
  Again, I think it's better to look at make.defaults. At least
  then you know where the use flags are coming from.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 18:37, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Hey Jason,

 What does -* do in the USE section of make.conf? Isn't that like saying
 don't use any variables.??

The USE declaration is parsed one word at a time. The first word (meaning 
string of chars separated by whitespace) is -*. When portage encounters it, 
portage clears all USE flags it's picked up from 
/etc/make.profile/make.defaults and wherever else. The shell still takes 
precedence over /etc/make.conf however. I've only done this because sometimes 
there are small changes to make.defaults which of course aren't advertised. 
Sometimes I use emerge depclean and this way I can be sure that nothing will 
break due to use flags (unless it's because of my own negligence).

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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris

I guess everything is going to be alright it just moved on to kdeutils 

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 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  its compiling kdeadmin now

 Great!!! Let me know how it goes. It's still compiling kdegraphics on my
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Awesome..

Man, I gotta upgrade my hardware or something. My stuff is slower than you know 
what...

JBanks
--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I guess everything is going to be alright it just moved on to kdeutils 
 
 On Monday 15 September 2003 09:43 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
  --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   its compiling kdeadmin now
 
  Great!!! Let me know how it goes. It's still compiling kdegraphics on my
  end.. chug-a-lug-a-choo-choo...slow train...
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
this is just a 1ghz p3 w/256 mg ram


On Monday 15 September 2003 10:03 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Awesome..

 Man, I gotta upgrade my hardware or something. My stuff is slower than you
 know what...

 JBanks

 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I guess everything is going to be alright it just moved on to kdeutils
 
  On Monday 15 September 2003 09:43 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
   --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
its compiling kdeadmin now
  
   Great!!! Let me know how it goes. It's still compiling kdegraphics on
   my end.. chug-a-lug-a-choo-choo...slow train...
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Joshua Banks
Ya,,,mines a  PIII 667eb coppermine with only 128M's of PC133 ram.
--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this is just a 1ghz p3 w/256 mg ram
 
 
 On Monday 15 September 2003 10:03 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
  Awesome..
 
  Man, I gotta upgrade my hardware or something. My stuff is slower than you
  know what...
 
  JBanks
 
  --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I guess everything is going to be alright it just moved on to kdeutils
  
   On Monday 15 September 2003 09:43 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
--- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 its compiling kdeadmin now
   
Great!!! Let me know how it goes. It's still compiling kdegraphics on
my end.. chug-a-lug-a-choo-choo...slow train...
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] How-to trouble shoot emerge/ebuild error messages...

2003-09-15 Thread Chris
boost your ram and you'll be on top

On Monday 15 September 2003 10:15 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Ya,,,mines a  PIII 667eb coppermine with only 128M's of PC133 ram.

 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  this is just a 1ghz p3 w/256 mg ram
 
  On Monday 15 September 2003 10:03 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
   Awesome..
  
   Man, I gotta upgrade my hardware or something. My stuff is slower than
   you know what...
  
   JBanks
  
   --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess everything is going to be alright it just moved on to
kdeutils
   
On Monday 15 September 2003 09:43 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Great!!! Let me know how it goes. It's still compiling kdegraphics
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Alexander Futasz
On 15 Sep 2003 09:28:23 +0200, Lutz Feldgen wrote:
 would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
 sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
 It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
 filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
 select by recipient-address.

I turned GMX spamfiltering completely off and filter myself now. True -
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo poll #7 results.

2003-09-15 Thread Alexander Futasz
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 19:52:25 -0700, Fred Van Andel wrote:
 
 These are the results for the seventh gentoo poll.

This whole poll should be taken off of the list and added to the
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 15 September 2003 20:04, Alexander Futasz wrote:
 On 15 Sep 2003 09:28:23 +0200, Lutz Feldgen wrote:
  would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
  sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
  It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
  filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
  select by recipient-address.

 I turned GMX spamfiltering completely off and filter myself now. True -
 I have to download all the spam, but my spam detection is way better. ;)

Just one word - SpamAssassin. I've been using it for about 3 months now 
filtering all incoming mails (over 1) and bayes scores very well. I still 
have to tweek it a bit more because about 1 in 50 spams are still not being 
detected and some Japanese mail is being misdetected, but all in all it's 
great!

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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread SavageMindz

 Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of script 
 that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the 
 two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..
 
Thats how it works currently. the etc-update script just diffs the two
files and shows you the changes. you can use a -5 to automerge all the
new files. I normally look for files I have made changes to
(/etc/make.conf etc) and when I have them out the way I just automerge
the rest. Bit quicker but not much.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail-header

2003-09-15 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On 15 Sep 2003 09:28:23 +0200
Lutz Feldgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 would it be a big problem for you or the list-manager to change the
 sender-address to the mailing-list-address?
 It is really uncomfortable to have half of the mails to this list
 filtered out by gmx-anti-spam...there is no way to tell the filter to
 select by recipient-address.


Yep, It'd be a big problem. For the rest of us.

see, we've been suffering some real idi0tz here at times, You know the
kind that set an auto-responder to respond that I'm away from the
office at every email they recieve?  or the kind that bounce the
message + notification at each message it recieves because their INBOX
is full?

i'm sure you can imagine what this looks like after four hours, when the
headers are mangled as you suggest? Yep. each bounce goes to the list
(automagically) and then generates yet another bounce. increment this
feedback loop with each message from people going on with life,
complaining about the crap-flood and you have a very pretty sight.

soon the next person got a full mailbox too.   okay, now there's two
spambouncers feeding eachother.  


So, Yes. It would be a problem.  :-)

Better make your software WhiteList on List-Id  or Delivered To 
flags.

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[gentoo-user] How to not respond WAS Re: [gentoo-user] re: SCO gets personal!

2003-09-15 Thread Sigurd Stordal
On Saturday 13 September 2003 05:26, Stephen Turner wrote:
 no no no dont send them there! its too friendly! send them to osama bin
 laden so he can rape them and use them as human bombs :D
This is an example on how you should not respond. I know many are really angry 
at SCO, and with good reason, but this kind of repons is way below any 
standard.
So, I hope we will not see this kind of posts again.
There are limits, and this is way below it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Stephen Boulet
I've  been very happy with LVM. I have /root on reiserfs and /boot on ext2, 
but all my other partitions are on LVM and are reiserfs:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda3 2.9G  243M  2.6G   9% /
/dev/vg/usr10G  6.5G  3.6G  65% /usr
/dev/vg/usr_local  10G  4.9G  5.2G  49% /usr/local
/dev/vg/home   30G   18G   13G  60% /home
/dev/vg/opt   2.0G  1.7G  330M  84% /opt
/dev/vg/var   8.0G  2.3G  5.8G  29% /var
/dev/vg/tmp   3.0G  322M  2.7G  11% /tmp
none  252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1  99M  9.3M   85M  10% /boot

I don't know how representative my experiences have been, but I ended up 
assigning too much space to the /tmp and /var partitions by following the 
guide. YMMV.

With reiserfs, shrinking a partition isn't hard at all.

In general, I'm very happy with my setup. I've both grown and shrunk 
partitions, and it was easy.

Good luck.

-- Stephen

On Monday 15 September 2003 02:16 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. September 2003 08:57 schrieb Gour:
  Today I'm going to trash my old IBM HD (together with SuSE :-) and
  install a new one, so I'm thinking about LVM install.
 
  Do you recommend it for two HDs (120G  80G) install on home machine?

 Yes, why not? I'd use EVMS, though.

  In Gentoo's LVM docs it is recommended NOT to put
  /etc
  /lib
  /mnt
  /proc
  /sbin
  /dev
  /root
 
  in LVM partition.

 Hmm, the list above combines to /. So unless you use an initrd to do the
 volume discovery at boot time, you should leave /boot and / on standard
 partitions, the rest can be on LVM volumes. However, if you think you'll
 need to resize / anytime in the future, use an initrd and put / on LVM
 also.

 I've got a some shell code to create an initrd for EVMS, which you could
 use as starting point for your own, if you want.

 HTH...

   Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 15. September 2003 15:04 schrieb Collins Richey:

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.6 kernel dropped support for
 LVM, and thus EVMS is now the only way to fly?

Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been integrated 
into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.

HTH...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread bob bob
Thanks for the replys guys.. clearly I need to track down and read the 
doco.. I wasn't aware of this feature :-P

RTFM time for me :-)



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 Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of 
script
 that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the
 two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..

Thats how it works currently. the etc-update script just diffs the two
files and shows you the changes. you can use a -5 to automerge all the
new files. I normally look for files I have made changes to
(/etc/make.conf etc) and when I have them out the way I just automerge
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[gentoo-user] Re: horribly slow portage updates (fixpackages)

2003-09-15 Thread sf
Marius Mauch wrote:
...
Now the fact that fixpackages is so slow is because to update this
information the .tbz2 needs to be uncompressed, then the information can
be updated and then it needs to be recompressed. This takes some time
for 1 or 2 GB of data. I'm currently trying to optimize the code a bit,
but I think for a dramatic improvement we would have to drop the current
.tbz2 format (so we can save the uncompress-recompress steps) itself
which is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
I would have thought only the uncompressed tbz2-specific tail has to 
changed, not the tbz part. Do I miss anything here?

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem couldn't be fixed?

2003-09-15 Thread Terje Kvernes
Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [ ... ]

 Thats strange, 40Mb for root?  Unless you partitioned /usr off I'm
 really quite curious about how you managed to do that.

  giving /usr a partition of its own isn't that odd, is it?  :-) 

  then again, my home server currently has around 20 partitions.  of
  these, seven are system-related: /, /boot, /opt, /usr, /local, /var,
  /var/tmp.  the rest of the partitions are data-related, be it music,
  cvs, tftproot, chroot-environments, images etc.  and yes, I do of
  course run LVM with all of this stuff. 

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[gentoo-user] [Q] ping

2003-09-15 Thread YOON. Joo-Yung
After I re-installed gentoo with the latest one (1.4_rc4),
ping has not been going out any more.

And today there was an evidence what ping does.
When I trace-route a domain at one pc, its ip address is first shown,
and then it shows my server address, that is default gateway address
in my small lan.

The /etc/conf.d/net in the server commented out gateway setting.
But I do not know which file else should be touched or has been touched
unknown to me during re-installation.

Could anyone give me a hint?

Thanks in advance,

YOON, Joo-Yung
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RE: [gentoo-user] RE: Re: vanilla-sources (2.4.22) No Athlon XPchoice?

2003-09-15 Thread Mark Knecht

 
 Have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml, the very
 useful kernel guide.
 
 BillK
 

Bill,
   This was a great link. Thanks!

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Q] ping

2003-09-15 Thread William Kenworthy
Keep in mind ... the local universities here have been blocking pings at
the borders because of a windoze worm/virus flooding the networks. 
Caught me out when my favourite off-site ping responders disappeared in
the middle of tracing a network fault ...

BillK

On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 22:09, YOON. Joo-Yung wrote:
 After I re-installed gentoo with the latest one (1.4_rc4),
 ping has not been going out any more.
 
 And today there was an evidence what ping does.
 When I trace-route a domain at one pc, its ip address is first shown,
 and then it shows my server address, that is default gateway address
 in my small lan.
 
 The /etc/conf.d/net in the server commented out gateway setting.
 But I do not know which file else should be touched or has been touched
 unknown to me during re-installation.
 
 Could anyone give me a hint?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 YOON, Joo-Yung
 Korea
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to not respond WAS Re: [gentoo-user] re: SCO gets personal!

2003-09-15 Thread Norberto Bensa
Sigurd Stordal wrote:
 On Saturday 13 September 2003 05:26, Stephen Turner wrote:
  no no no dont send them there! its too friendly! send them to osama bin
  laden so he can rape them and use them as human bombs :D

 This is an example on how you should not respond

 So, I hope we will not see this kind of posts again.
 There are limits, and this is way below it.

You know there's something called sense of humor, don't you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to not respond WAS Re: [gentoo-user] re: SCO gets personal!

2003-09-15 Thread Sigurd Stordal
On Monday 15 September 2003 14:41, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Sigurd Stordal wrote:
  On Saturday 13 September 2003 05:26, Stephen Turner wrote:
   no no no dont send them there! its too friendly! send them to osama bin
   laden so he can rape them and use them as human bombs :D
 
  This is an example on how you should not respond
 
  So, I hope we will not see this kind of posts again.
  There are limits, and this is way below it.

 You know there's something called sense of humor, don't you?
Yes raping and suicide bombing is sooo fun.
You see, something should not be written as humor. Maybe I don't have a good 
sense of humor, but if what was written was: send him to osama bin laden, 
then it would have been alright, but I still don't think raping and suicide 
bombing has anything to do with humor. But then I'm more into inteligent 
humor and not dumb and dumber   humor.

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[gentoo-user] Lost lm-sensors modules on gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6 to -r7 upgrad e...

2003-09-15 Thread Budd, Tracy
I just built a new kernel from gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 according to the
installation instruction on gentoo.org (i.e. make dep  make clean bzImage
modules modules_install). I then reemerged nvidia-kernel and lm-sensors. For
some reason lm-sensors installed its modules under
/lib/modules/gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6 instead of -r7. I know this worked
once before for me when I upgraded from -r5 to -r6. I set the /usr/src/linux
to -r7 before compiling. Is there something I missed?
TIA,
-Tracy


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RE: [gentoo-user] Lost lm-sensors modules on gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6 to -r7 upgrade...

2003-09-15 Thread Mark Knecht
 I just built a new kernel from gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 according to the
 installation instruction on gentoo.org (i.e. make dep  make
 clean bzImage
 modules modules_install). I then reemerged nvidia-kernel and
 lm-sensors. For
 some reason lm-sensors installed its modules under
 /lib/modules/gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6 instead of -r7. I know this worked
 once before for me when I upgraded from -r5 to -r6. I set the
 /usr/src/linux
 to -r7 before compiling. Is there something I missed?
 TIA,
 -Tracy

Sounds sort of strange, doesn't it? Doesn't sound like you missed anything.

If they were installed under -r6, why not just move them to -r7 by hand.
That should work I would think.

If you verify this really happened, then submit a bug. I was involved with
the folks last week in there efforts to release -r7 with support for gxx33
and it was one of the best bug report experiences I've had. Great group of
people.

Good luck,
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB Networking (Linux iPaq to Gentoo)

2003-09-15 Thread Jayson Garrell
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 16:37, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
 Brian Doob wrote:
  I want to set up USB networking between my Linux-iPaq (an ARM based
  handheld with 2.4.19 Linux)
 
 What linux do you have on your iPaq, and is that with or without extra ram /
 microdrive?

It would be Familiar Linux, it is installable without a microdirve 
ram. I have the latest release running on my iPAQ 3765 (stock 64mb ram 
32mb flash.

http://handhelds.org


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #8

2003-09-15 Thread Fred Van Andel
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This is the eighth gentoo poll.

The question is:

Where did you first hear about gentoo?
If you can then please be specific.

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Please do NOT reply within the mailing list, any replies to the list
will be not be counted. Discussion on the list about the poll are
encouraged. Results will be summarized and posted in about a week.

Any suggestions about new poll questions are welcome. Please keep
them gentoo related.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Lost lm-sensors modules on gentoo-sources-2.4.2 0-r6 to -r7 upgrade...

2003-09-15 Thread Budd, Tracy
Yes, I was planning on moving them by hand, but I was wondering if I had
done something wrong. 
Thanks,
-Tracy

-Original Message-
From: Mark Knecht
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Lost lm-sensors modules on
gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6 to -r7 upgrade...


 I just built a new kernel from gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 according to the
 installation instruction on gentoo.org (i.e. make dep  make
 clean bzImage
 modules modules_install). I then reemerged nvidia-kernel and
 lm-sensors. For
 some reason lm-sensors installed its modules under
 /lib/modules/gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6 instead of -r7. I know this worked
 once before for me when I upgraded from -r5 to -r6. I set the
 /usr/src/linux
 to -r7 before compiling. Is there something I missed?
 TIA,
 -Tracy

Sounds sort of strange, doesn't it? Doesn't sound like you missed anything.

If they were installed under -r6, why not just move them to -r7 by hand.
That should work I would think.

If you verify this really happened, then submit a bug. I was involved with
the folks last week in there efforts to release -r7 with support for gxx33
and it was one of the best bug report experiences I've had. Great group of
people.

Good luck,
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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Gour
Dirk Heinrichs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been integrated 
 into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.

What do you recommend: LVM2 or EVMS2 since both use the same Device
Mapper?

Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB Networking (Linux iPaq to Gentoo)

2003-09-15 Thread Jayson Garrell
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 15:13, Brian Doob wrote:
   I want to set up USB networking between my Linux-iPaq (an ARM based
 handheld with 2.4.19 Linux) and my Gentoo desktop box.  The gentoo box
 is connected to a broadband router with an active DHCP server.  I want
 the iPaq to get an address from the router and connect out to the
 internet.  I think the iPaq is already configured correctly (it's
 running familiar 0.7.1test + Opie 1.0).  I compiled usbnet statically
 into my gentoo kernel (2.4.22-ck1).  I don't know which USB driver I
 should use (Gigabyte GA-7VAX, VIA KT400, VIA VT8235).  I also don't know
 how to set up my config files, or enable the IP forwarding (but not
 masquerading) to talk to my router.  Does anyone know how to set this
 up?  Thanks.
 
   -Brian

Forget about dhcp on the ipaq connected via usb. I could never get it to
get and address from my server. I can tell you how to get it working
with static ip though.

iPAQ: 

1) Make sure that the usb-eth modules is being loaded at boot time.

2) Familiar should already be setup for this, if you are using the
latest release. 

Desktop:

You need to have the usbnet.o compiled as a module.

1) modprobe -r usbnet

2) place ipaq in usb cradle

3) modprobe usbnet

4) ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 pointopoint 
192.168.0.202 up (usb0 will be the network devicec on you pc)

5) route add -host 192.168.0.202 usb0

6) iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.202/16
   iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.0.202/16 -j ACCEPT
   iptables -I FORWARD -d 192.168.0.202/16 -j ACCEPT
   echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

If your desktop is already connected to the internet, the ipaq will be
able to also now.

Jayson Garrell

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Re: [gentoo-user] currupt icons in nautilus from gnome 2.4 ~x86

2003-09-15 Thread Alan
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 04:39:44PM +0930, Chris van der Pennen wrote:
 I had something similar to that in the latest Evolution.  Fix was to turn
 off RenderAccel in the nvidia drivers.

Worked perfectly, thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo poll #7 results.

2003-09-15 Thread Fred Van Andel
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On September 15, 2003 04:10 am, Alexander Futasz wrote:
 This whole poll should be taken off of the list and added to the
 newsletter.

I have some misgivings about that.  

I like to ask open ended questions because then I make sure that I 
can see all the responses rather than only some preselected ones.
I have gotten significant responses to open ended questions that I 
would have never thought to put on a preselected list.

If the poll was in the newsletter I expect I would be swamped by not 
50-100 responses but rather hundreds responses. It can take a lot 
of time to go through each one when dealing with open ended 
questions.

GWN is published in other locations as well such as lwn.net and 
others.  I want to ask questions to the gentoo user community, not 
the larger Linux community.  If the Linux community gets involved 
the views of the gentoo community could get lost in the noise. I 
don't post the questions in gentoo-dev or gentoo-core either 
because they are not the audience I am trying to learn about.

Final note:
I am a gentoo developer, but this poll is not an officially 
sanctioned activity. Management knows I am doing this and has not 
objected, but I am doing this as a user not a developer.

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[gentoo-user] 2.6 issues.

2003-09-15 Thread Josh Helmer
Hi folks...

I have been playing with 2.6 for a while now (mm-sources-2.6.0-test5).  For 
the most part I am happy with it.  

The only real issue that I have had is logging in.   When I boot into 2.4, I 
can login to my system without any problems.  When I boot into 2.6 and try to 
login as a user the system hangs.  I am able to log in as root and then su - 
to a user, but that's a headache.  I have tried logging in at a prompt, using 
xdm and using kdm...  All fail.   On the other hand, I CAN log in as a user 
by ssh without problems.

I have added my users to the tty group, but that doesn't seem to help.

When the login hangs, I try to do a SysRq+T to get the state, but the machine 
slowly prints (literally takes about 10 seconds and you can see each 
character printed individually):

SysRq : Show State

and then quits.  From that point on none of the SysRq functions will work at 
all.

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

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[gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I've never received an answer for these question in the Redhat
reflectors, and never asked here. Please excuse my ignorance on this
subject.

   I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make dep
clean bzImage modules modules_install  then copy bzImage to /boot by hand)
and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot. However,
I apparently did a build of 2.4.20-r5 some other way (possibly make
install?) and these files, plus their links were created.

QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary?

QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?

QUESTION 3: What is the difference between booting from a vmlinuz file and a
bzImage file?

QUESTION 4: Does having these -r5 files impact running -r7 if the -r7
versions don't exist and the links point to the -r5 versions?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] a7n8x freezes with serial ata.

2003-09-15 Thread Arlo
I have an A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with built in Sil3112a serial ata
controller and a Seagate Barracuda serial ata harddisk. I'm getting random, or
semi-random system lockups. The lockups happen more when the system is under
load. This is documented well on sites like http://www.nforcershq.com
I also do not get a harddrive led (for activity).
I have tried all the fixes I can find in the archives. 
the:
 echo max_kb_per_request:15  /proc/ide/hde/settings

hdparm -X66 -d1 /dev/hde

and I still get the lockups. All the discusion I can find about this issue is 
2 months old did I miss the fix? 

I'm assumeing (hopeing) that this is going to be fixed or has been fixed in a 
new kernel. I'm using gs-sources 2.4.22_pre2.

My questions are:

If you have the same or similar settup to me how are you doing?

How can I tell which version of the sil3112a driver the kernel I'm using has?

If I can find a new sil3112 driver, can I patch the gs-sources kernel or do I 
have to go vanilla?

Any good sites to find more info?


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Re: [gentoo-user] IP address of a DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Core
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 09:46, Chris I wrote:
  FWIW, nslookup is deprecated. It's better to use 'host', which is in
  net-misc/host.
 
 The replacement for nslookup is dig, is it not?

No, it is indeed host since bind 9 IIRC.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: horribly slow portage updates (fixpackages)

2003-09-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On 09/15/03  sf wrote:

 I would have thought only the uncompressed tbz2-specific tail has to 
 changed, not the tbz part. Do I miss anything here?

Yes, after I took some closer looks at the code I think you're right.

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Re: [gentoo-user] a7n8x freezes with serial ata.

2003-09-15 Thread Alan
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:40:29PM -0400, Arlo wrote:
 I have an A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with built in Sil3112a serial ata
 controller and a Seagate Barracuda serial ata harddisk. I'm getting random, or
 semi-random system lockups. The lockups happen more when the system is under
 load. This is documented well on sites like http://www.nforcershq.com
 I also do not get a harddrive led (for activity).
 I have tried all the fixes I can find in the archives. 

I had similar problems with that a7n8x-delux board with IDE drives.
Random lockups under high HD or network load IIRC.  I ended up fixing
this by going to ac-sources, which have the proper drivers for the
nforce2 chipset.  Run dmesg | grep -i nforce and see if anything shows
up.  There'll be an option in the kernel config 

ATA/IDE/etc-Block Devices
   * AMD and nVidia IDE support

There are also nvidia nforce specific options in the Sound section, and
under Character Devices-AGPGART.

I have these enabled and my A7N8X has been rock solid for a few kernel
revs (all ac-sources IIRC), as opposed to when I first got it and it was 
a crashy POS that felt like a windows 3.0 system on LSD :)

HTH

alan

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[gentoo-user] gnucash crashes

2003-09-15 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Hi,
just emerged GnuCash 1.8.6 on a fresh Gentoo installation. Whether I 
load my old gnucash file or try to generate a new account tree, whenever 
I open an account, gnucash crashes with this message:
Application '/usr/bin/guile (process 9224) has crashed due to a fatal 
error. (Segmentation fault).

Any idea?

Best regards,
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[gentoo-user] UML problems

2003-09-15 Thread Mike Bellemare
I followed the instruction of the doc-uml but resulted with the system booting but 
failing after entering: level3 Starting locale [ok]
here's the error messages when i  boot it:

Gentoo Linux; http://www.gentoo.org/
 Copyright 2001-2003 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.; Distributed under the GPL

 * Mounting proc at /proc...  [ ok ]
 * Mounting devfs at /dev...  [ ok ]
 * Starting devfsd...Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /dev
  [ ok ]
 * Activating (possible) swap...  [ ok ]
 * Remounting root filesystem read-only (if necessary)...  [ ok ]
 * Checking root filesystem...fsck 1.33 (21-Apr-2003)
fsck: fsck.reiserfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.reiserfs for /dev/ubd/0
  [ ok ]
 * Remounting root filesystem read/write...  [ ok ]
 * Setting hostname to vegeta-uml...  [ ok ]
 * Calculating module dependencies...  [ ok ]
 * Using /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4:

modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
 * Checking all filesystems...fsck 1.33 (21-Apr-2003)
  [ ok ]
 * Mounting local filesystems...  [ ok ]
 * Activating (possibly) more swap...modprobe: Can't open dependencies file 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
  [ ok ]
 * Caching service dependencies...  [ ok ]
 * Setting system clock to hardware clock [UTC]...modprobe: Can't open dependencies 
file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
 * Failed to set system clock to hardware clock
  [ !! ]

 * ERROR:  Problem starting needed services.
 * bootmisc was not started.
 * Setting user font...Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/2: No such file or directory
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/3: No such file or directory
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/4: No such file or directory
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/5: No such file or directory
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/6: No such file or directory
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/7: No such file or directory
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/8: Permission denied
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/9: Permission denied
modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.21-6um/modules.dep (No such 
file or directory)
/sbin/rc: line 61: /dev/vc/10: Permission denied
 * Failed to set user font
  [ !! ]

 * Loading key mappings...Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
 * Error loading key mappings
  [ !! ]

 * Bringing lo up...  [ ok ]
 * Initializing random number generator...  [ ok ]
INIT: Entering runlevel: 3
 * Mounting network filesystems...  [ ok ]
 * Starting local...  [ ok ]



and then it hangs there for ever.
thanks
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[gentoo-user] Promise hw RAID and Gentoo 1.4 livecd

2003-09-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I'm building a system with an ASUS P4C800 Delux mb which has an onboard
Promise PDC20378 controller chipset.  I've read the discussions on this list
from last spring about Gentoo and Promise raid, but am still having trouble,
and everything I can find on google indicates that a lot of people are
having the same problems and that solutions are hard to come by.

I'm trying to get at the RAID array from the livecd, v1.4-20030911.

modprobe ataraid- works OK
modprobe pdcraid- fails

According to what I've read, there were problems with the Promise raid
driver in kernel 2.4.19 but the livecd uses 2.4.21.  I can fall back on
Linux software raid, but it'd really rather not have to deal with the boot
issues involved.  One of the reasons I paid the extra $$ for this mb was
because it had the onboard hw raid.  I guess it's what I get for trying to
use bleeding edge hardware with Linux, I guess :(

Has anyone made any progress on this problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem couldn't be fixed?

2003-09-15 Thread Dmitry Suzdalev
On Monday 15 September 2003 05:09, Spider wrote:
 Thats strange, 40Mb for root?  Unless you partitioned /usr off I'm
 really quite curious about how you managed to do that.

:). :s/Mb/Gb/g. Yes, that's curious :-). Nowadays I noticed that I often 
replace Gb with Mb in my mind :). Sorry. That's rapid development of HDD's, 
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[gentoo-user] Hyper-threading, SMB and Gentoo

2003-09-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I'm building a system with an ASUS P4C800 Deluxe mb. I'm using the smp
kernel on the Gentoo livecd, v1.4-20030911.  The BIOS settings tell me that
hyperthreading is enabled, and the flags line in /proc/cpuinfo lists the ht
flag, but only one CPU is listed in /proc/cpuinfo and only one shows up in
the boot console messages.  Should I not be seeing two of them from the
point of view of the OS?  The CPU is an Intel 2.60GHZ/512/800 (2.6 GHz, 512
cache, 800Mhz sys. bus) which supports hyperthreading according to Intel's
website, and the mb manual indicates that the hyperthreading option isn't
offered in the BIOS unless it's enabled in the CPU.

What am I missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] a7n8x freezes with serial ata.

2003-09-15 Thread Alan
Just copy your .config file from your old kernel directory into the
ac-sources dir, and type make oldconfig at the prompt.  This will only
prompt you for new options.  It's probably still advisable to go through
the new kernel config anyway and make sure there's nothing out of order
there.

The usual warnings about making sure you have a backup kernel you can
boot to if the new one doesn't work out apply of course :)

Good luck!

alan


On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:31:42PM -0400, Arlo Clauser wrote:
 thanks for the help. 
 I will give the ac-sources a try tonight. 
 is there anyway I can reuse my .config file, or how can I print my kernel 
 config. I made alot of changes and I know I will miss some if i re-enter 
 them. 
 -arlo-
 
 On Monday 15 September 2003 14:59, Alan wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:40:29PM -0400, Arlo wrote:
   I have an A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with built in Sil3112a serial ata
   controller and a Seagate Barracuda serial ata harddisk. I'm getting
   random, or semi-random system lockups. The lockups happen more when the
   system is under load. This is documented well on sites like
   http://www.nforcershq.com I also do not get a harddrive led (for
   activity).
   I have tried all the fixes I can find in the archives.
 
  I had similar problems with that a7n8x-delux board with IDE drives.
  Random lockups under high HD or network load IIRC.  I ended up fixing
  this by going to ac-sources, which have the proper drivers for the
  nforce2 chipset.  Run dmesg | grep -i nforce and see if anything shows
  up.  There'll be an option in the kernel config
 
  ATA/IDE/etc-Block Devices
 * AMD and nVidia IDE support
 
  There are also nvidia nforce specific options in the Sound section, and
  under Character Devices-AGPGART.
 
  I have these enabled and my A7N8X has been rock solid for a few kernel
  revs (all ac-sources IIRC), as opposed to when I first got it and it was
  a crashy POS that felt like a windows 3.0 system on LSD :)
 
  HTH
 
  alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 issues.

2003-09-15 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:50:06 -0700
Josh Helmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi folks...
 
 I have been playing with 2.6 for a while now (mm-sources-2.6.0-test5).  For 
 the most part I am happy with it.  
 
 The only real issue that I have had is logging in.   When I boot into 2.4, I 
 can login to my system without any problems.  When I boot into 2.6 and try to 
 login as a user the system hangs.  I am able to log in as root and then su - 
 to a user, but that's a headache.  I have tried logging in at a prompt, using 
 xdm and using kdm...  All fail.   On the other hand, I CAN log in as a user 
 by ssh without problems.
 
 I have added my users to the tty group, but that doesn't seem to help.
 
 When the login hangs, I try to do a SysRq+T to get the state, but the machine 
 slowly prints (literally takes about 10 seconds and you can see each 
 character printed individually):
 
 SysRq : Show State
 
 and then quits.  From that point on none of the SysRq functions will work at 
 all.
 
 Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
 

What type of hardwre?  Kernel (or other critical components) built with wild
optimizations?

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Re: [gentoo-user] a7n8x freezes with serial ata.

2003-09-15 Thread Arlo
thanks for the help. 
I will give the ac-sources a try tonight. 
is there anyway I can reuse my .config file, or how can I print my kernel 
config. I made alot of changes and I know I will miss some if i re-enter 
them. 
-arlo-

On Monday 15 September 2003 14:59, Alan wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:40:29PM -0400, Arlo wrote:
  I have an A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with built in Sil3112a serial ata
  controller and a Seagate Barracuda serial ata harddisk. I'm getting
  random, or semi-random system lockups. The lockups happen more when the
  system is under load. This is documented well on sites like
  http://www.nforcershq.com I also do not get a harddrive led (for
  activity).
  I have tried all the fixes I can find in the archives.

 I had similar problems with that a7n8x-delux board with IDE drives.
 Random lockups under high HD or network load IIRC.  I ended up fixing
 this by going to ac-sources, which have the proper drivers for the
 nforce2 chipset.  Run dmesg | grep -i nforce and see if anything shows
 up.  There'll be an option in the kernel config

 ATA/IDE/etc-Block Devices
* AMD and nVidia IDE support

 There are also nvidia nforce specific options in the Sound section, and
 under Character Devices-AGPGART.

 I have these enabled and my A7N8X has been rock solid for a few kernel
 revs (all ac-sources IIRC), as opposed to when I first got it and it was
 a crashy POS that felt like a windows 3.0 system on LSD :)

 HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo poll #7 results.

2003-09-15 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

I think, gentoo-user is a good place for your poll: it is user related, 
gentoo-user has many subscriptors, and the traffic is so high, that an 
additional e-mail does not hurt anybody.
27149 emails since the middle of april and 7 of it are the polls.

Glück Auf
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Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:57:12 -0700
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
I've never received an answer for these question in the Redhat
 reflectors, and never asked here. Please excuse my ignorance on this
 subject.
 
I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make dep
 clean bzImage modules modules_install  then copy bzImage to /boot by hand)
 and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot. However,
 I apparently did a build of 2.4.20-r5 some other way (possibly make
 install?) and these files, plus their links were created.
 
 QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary?

The vmlinuz and bzImage (or other names) in /boot are the kernel used for
booting. The System.map files (optional) are really only needed to interpret
dumps if your kernel craps out.
 
 QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?

You must build a new kernel to create these files, then copy them from the
/usr/src/linux/ location to /boot.  Ask again, if you don't know how to
build a kernel, or still betterm RTFM (google, gentoo documentation, redhat
documentation, etc., etc.).
 
 QUESTION 3: What is the difference between booting from a vmlinuz file and a
 bzImage file?

There is no difference; the names are whatever you pick.  The kernel build
process creates/usr/src/linux.../System.map (symbols map) and
/usr/src/linux.../arch/i386/boot/bzImage (bootable kernel).  You then copy these
files to /boot and name them whatever you like, example /boot/System-map-latest
and /boot/bzImage-latest.  Then you update your grub or lilo boot loader
controls to allow boot from the /boot/bzImage-latest.  Many people like to
include symlinks ln -s /boot/System.map-latest /boot/System.map and ln -s
/boot/bzImage-lastest /boot/vmlinuz

 
 QUESTION 4: Does having these -r5 files impact running -r7 if the -r7
 versions don't exist and the links point to the -r5 versions?

There is absolutely no impact in having mulitple map and kernel files on /boot. 
You must specify the appropriate kernel name in a stanza in your boot manager
(grub or lilo), and you may have multiple choices.  The only problem you are
likely to encounter is with modules when you are using something like nvidia
which installs for a particular kernel release only.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi Mark,
I'm, not an expert with this, but I'll try...

Am Montag, 15. September 2003 18:57 schrieb Mark Knecht:
 Hi,
I've never received an answer for these question in the Redhat
 reflectors, and never asked here. Please excuse my ignorance on this
 subject.

I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make dep
 clean bzImage modules modules_install  then copy bzImage to /boot by hand)
 and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot.
 However, I apparently did a build of 2.4.20-r5 some other way (possibly
 make install?) and these files, plus their links were created.

I think, there is a make bzlilo. Maybe you used this one?

 QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary?

Afaik system.map is created and needed by your bootmanager (lilo?). vmlinuz is 
your kernel or a symlink to it. I dont know what config could be. I don't 
have this file and my machine boots quite good. I use grub now, but I had 
lilo installed before.

 QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?

vmlinuz is created by you, when you copy your kernel after compiling with cp 
arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz. Maybe make bzlilo does that for you, I 
never used this. System.map is created by your bootloader, when you install 
it (call /sbin/lilo, setup in grup?).

 QUESTION 3: What is the difference between booting from a vmlinuz file and
 a bzImage file?

There is none. It's just the name of your kernelimage.

 QUESTION 4: Does having these -r5 files impact running -r7 if the -r7
 versions don't exist and the links point to the -r5 versions?

No, if you have a section in the configfile of your bootloader, that starts 
the -r7 kernel. Don't forget to call /sbin/lilo, if you use lilo (/boot 
mounted). After that there should be a System.map.

 Thanks,
 Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] a7n8x freezes with serial ata.

2003-09-15 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:47:37 -0700
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just copy your .config file from your old kernel directory into the
 ac-sources dir, and type make oldconfig at the prompt.  This will only
 prompt you for new options.  It's probably still advisable to go through
 the new kernel config anyway and make sure there's nothing out of order
 there.
 

More than advisable!  I've never yet used omake oldconfig without some of my
settings being automagically changed!  Always check the settings with a fine
tooth comb.

 The usual warnings about making sure you have a backup kernel you can
 boot to if the new one doesn't work out apply of course :)
 
 Good luck!
 
 alan
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:31:42PM -0400, Arlo Clauser wrote:
  thanks for the help. 
  I will give the ac-sources a try tonight. 
  is there anyway I can reuse my .config file, or how can I print my kernel 
  config. I made alot of changes and I know I will miss some if i re-enter 
  them. 
  -arlo-
  
  On Monday 15 September 2003 14:59, Alan wrote:
   On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:40:29PM -0400, Arlo wrote:
I have an A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with built in Sil3112a serial ata
controller and a Seagate Barracuda serial ata harddisk. I'm getting
random, or semi-random system lockups. The lockups happen more when the
system is under load. This is documented well on sites like
http://www.nforcershq.com I also do not get a harddrive led (for
activity).
I have tried all the fixes I can find in the archives.
  
   I had similar problems with that a7n8x-delux board with IDE drives.
   Random lockups under high HD or network load IIRC.  I ended up fixing
   this by going to ac-sources, which have the proper drivers for the
   nforce2 chipset.  Run dmesg | grep -i nforce and see if anything shows
   up.  There'll be an option in the kernel config
  
   ATA/IDE/etc-Block Devices
  * AMD and nVidia IDE support
  
   There are also nvidia nforce specific options in the Sound section, and
   under Character Devices-AGPGART.
  
   I have these enabled and my A7N8X has been rock solid for a few kernel
   revs (all ac-sources IIRC), as opposed to when I first got it and it was
   a crashy POS that felt like a windows 3.0 system on LSD :)
  
   HTH
  
   alan
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hyper-threading, SMB and Gentoo

2003-09-15 Thread Michael Niethen
[Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:44:10 -0500] Lindsay Haisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- :
 I'm building a system with an ASUS P4C800 Deluxe mb. I'm using the smp
 kernel on the Gentoo livecd, v1.4-20030911.  The BIOS settings tell me that
 hyperthreading is enabled, and the flags line in /proc/cpuinfo lists the ht
 flag, but only one CPU is listed in /proc/cpuinfo and only one shows up in
 the boot console messages.  Should I not be seeing two of them from the
 point of view of the OS?  The CPU is an Intel 2.60GHZ/512/800 (2.6 GHz, 512
 cache, 800Mhz sys. bus) which supports hyperthreading according to Intel's
 website, and the mb manual indicates that the hyperthreading option isn't
 offered in the BIOS unless it's enabled in the CPU.
 
 What am I missing?

The 'smp' kernel doesn't have the proper ACPI support, which is needed.
Try 'smp-acpi' at boot-time, it should work fine.

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[gentoo-user] Re: post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Heribert Slama
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:20:15 +0500, in gmane.linux.gentoo.user, bob
bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the replys guys.. clearly I need to track down and read the 
doco.. I wasn't aware of this feature :-P

etc-update isn't a feature, it's a _nuisance_ :-
But I'm sure Easy-as-a-pie Superman will disagree;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread Brett I . Holcomb
They are created during a kernel build (make dep  make ).

vmlinuz is a linux kernel.  Some distros use this while others use bzImage.  
Wen I move bzImage to /boot I usually rename the Gentoo bzImage to 
vmlinuz-x.y.z where x.y.z is a version such as 2.4.20.  I'm just used to 
seeing vmlinuz due to past experience.

System.Map contains symbols used for debugging as far as I know.  You 
probably can live without it as I've had System.map for kernel x when I'm 
running kernel y.

LILO records the location of the kernel - vmlinuz, or whatever you named it.

On Monday 15 September 2003 17:10, you wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 I'm, not an expert with this, but I'll try...

 Am Montag, 15. September 2003 18:57 schrieb Mark Knecht:
  Hi,
 I've never received an answer for these question in the Redhat
  reflectors, and never asked here. Please excuse my ignorance on this
  subject.
 
 I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make
  dep clean bzImage modules modules_install  then copy bzImage to /boot by
  hand) and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot.
  However, I apparently did a build of 2.4.20-r5 some other way (possibly
  make install?) and these files, plus their links were created.

 I think, there is a make bzlilo. Maybe you used this one?

  QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary?

 Afaik system.map is created and needed by your bootmanager (lilo?). vmlinuz
 is your kernel or a symlink to it. I dont know what config could be. I
 don't have this file and my machine boots quite good. I use grub now, but I
 had lilo installed before.

  QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?

 vmlinuz is created by you, when you copy your kernel after compiling with
 cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz. Maybe make bzlilo does that for
 you, I never used this. System.map is created by your bootloader, when you
 install it (call /sbin/lilo, setup in grup?).

  QUESTION 3: What is the difference between booting from a vmlinuz file
  and a bzImage file?

 There is none. It's just the name of your kernelimage.

  QUESTION 4: Does having these -r5 files impact running -r7 if the -r7
  versions don't exist and the links point to the -r5 versions?

 No, if you have a section in the configfile of your bootloader, that starts
 the -r7 kernel. Don't forget to call /sbin/lilo, if you use lilo (/boot
 mounted). After that there should be a System.map.

  Thanks,
  Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 issues.

2003-09-15 Thread Josh Helmer
On Monday 15 September 2003 02:06 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:50:06 -0700

 Josh Helmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks...
 
  I have been playing with 2.6 for a while now (mm-sources-2.6.0-test5). 
  For the most part I am happy with it.
 
  The only real issue that I have had is logging in.   When I boot into
  2.4, I can login to my system without any problems.  When I boot into 2.6
  and try to login as a user the system hangs.  I am able to log in as root
  and then su - to a user, but that's a headache.  I have tried logging in
  at a prompt, using xdm and using kdm...  All fail.   On the other hand, I
  CAN log in as a user by ssh without problems.
 
  I have added my users to the tty group, but that doesn't seem to help.
 
  When the login hangs, I try to do a SysRq+T to get the state, but the
  machine slowly prints (literally takes about 10 seconds and you can see
  each character printed individually):
 
  SysRq : Show State
 
  and then quits.  From that point on none of the SysRq functions will work
  at all.
 
  Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

 What type of hardwre?  Kernel (or other critical components) built with
 wild optimizations?

I am running it on a Toshiba Satellite 5005-S507 laptop (1.1Ghz pentium3, 512M 
RAM, Nvidia video, buggy ACPI).  I don't have any special optimizations.  My 
CFLAGS is just set to '-march=pentuim3 -O2 -pipe' - nothing too radical.

As for the kernel config, I left things pretty generic.  I don't believe that 
I have any unusual optimizations enabled...  Here is my full config:

#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
# CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# Processor type and features
#
CONFIG_X86_PC=y
# CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set
# CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set
# CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set
# CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set
# CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set
# CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
CONFIG_M686=y
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MK8 is not set
# CONFIG_MELAN is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
# CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set
# CONFIG_X86_GENERIC is not set
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
# CONFIG_X86_4G is not set
# CONFIG_X86_SWITCH_PAGETABLES is not set
# CONFIG_X86_4G_VM_LAYOUT is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UACCESS_INDIRECT is not set
# CONFIG_X86_HIGH_ENTRY is not set
# CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set
# CONFIG_HPET_TIMER is not set
# CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC is not set
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
# CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set
CONFIG_X86_MCE_P4THERMAL=y
CONFIG_TOSHIBA=m
# CONFIG_I8K is not set
CONFIG_MICROCODE=m
CONFIG_X86_MSR=m
CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m
# CONFIG_EDD is not set
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_HAVE_DEC_LOCK=y

#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y

#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI_HT=y
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m
CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y

#
# APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support
#
# CONFIG_APM is not set

#
# CPU Frequency scaling
#
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ is not set

#
# Bus options (PCI, PCMCIA, EISA, MCA, ISA)
#
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set

Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread David Friggens
I'm not too knowledgable in this area but I'm pretty sure the other two
answers you've got so far are (in part) wrong. I did my first x86
install and kernel build the other day and found this info myself after
trying to figure out why the x86 and ppc kernel procedures were
different. (So I can confirm that all this is just a short google away.
:-)

* Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-15 09:57]:
I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make dep
 clean bzImage modules modules_install  then copy bzImage to /boot by hand)
 and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot. However,

 QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary?

vmlinux is your kernel. Often necessary. System.map is the symbol map
and is necessary.
bzImage is a compressed file that contains both. (So you use it instead
of the others.)

 QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?

Do `make vmlinux` instead of `make bzImage` - they should be in the
source root. (They may actually be there after doing make bzImage - have
a look - but that's what you do if you don't want the compressed image.)

 QUESTION 3: What is the difference between booting from a vmlinuz file and a
 bzImage file?

As far as your system once it's booted - nothing. But (this is an
educated guess here, someone correct me if I'm wrong) you're more likely
to run out of memory during boot without the compression due to the
excellent design of the peecee architecture. :-)

 QUESTION 4: Does having these -r5 files impact running -r7 if the -r7
 versions don't exist and the links point to the -r5 versions?

No.

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is sendmail: Cannot open mail:25 popping up

2003-09-15 Thread Sean Higgins

Chris,

The base version of Gentoo installs net-mail/ssmtp which links ssmtp to 
sendmail.  This program is only run when you try to send mail from your 
system.  The error message that you are getting:

sendmail: Cannot open mail:25

Means, ssmtp could not open a mail connection to the host mail.  ssmtp is 
not configured to send mail by itself, it is configured to relay mail to 
another host, mail.

You won't see the program with a ps -a because it only runs when sending 
mail.  It is not waiting for mail to arrive.

I hope this helps...

  Sean


On September 14, 2003 12:25 am, Chris Conway wrote:
 I am just finishing a new install of gentoo sourcces and have emerged
 xfree, kde, and the ATI drivers.  Why is this popping up in the
 terminal?  Better question is why- I haven't installed sendmail?  Is it
 part of KDE? Or is it some other process trying to invoke sendmail and
 failing? metalog trying to send a message (can it do that)?

 Odder yet I did a emerge -p unmerge sendmail and it says it isn't
 installed.

 Is my computer haunted by a sendmail daemon?


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Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake David Friggens on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 04:57:22PM CDT
 * Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-15 09:57]:
 I just did a kernel build of gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r7 by hand (make dep
  clean bzImage modules modules_install  then copy bzImage to /boot by hand)
  and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot. However,
 
  QUESTION 1: What do these files do, and are they necessary?
 
 vmlinux is your kernel. Often necessary. System.map is the symbol map and
 is necessary. bzImage is a compressed file that contains both. (So you use
 it instead of the others.)

bzImage doesn't contain the system symbol map, but the symbol map is
frequently used to translate numeric locations in bzImage into symbol names
for debugging purposes.  System.map isn't required.

The file /usr/src/linux/arch/xxx/boot/bzImage gets copied, usually, to
/boot/vmlinuz when one builds a kernel, so they're the same file, really. 
/boot/vmlinuz (if it's the working kernel image) is _always_ required. 
bzImage in the kernel build tree is only generated when one builds a kernel,
and can be deleted.

  QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?
 
 Do `make vmlinux` instead of `make bzImage` - they should be in the
 source root. (They may actually be there after doing make bzImage - have
 a look - but that's what you do if you don't want the compressed image.)

You don't need the uncompressed kernel.  The proper sequence of commands (or
one of them) to create a new kernel is as follows:

cd /usr/src/linux[assuming this is the base of your kernel source tree] 
make menuconfig  [set things the way you want them]
make dep
make clean
make bzImage modules
make modules_install
cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-whatever

You may need to dicker with your lilo or grub config file to reference your
new kernel, and if you use lilo, you'll need to run it to update the boot
info.

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[gentoo-user] CLOOP gotcha...

2003-09-15 Thread Jerry McBride

I just had a devil of a time setting up a kernel for cloop support... Before 
you can emerge cloop, you have to have a kernel with zlib compression support 
compiled INTO the kernel... not modules.

What I had a hard time figuring out was... you can't have zlib compiled in the 
kernel and have crypto support enabled (modules or otherwise). The moment you 
enable crypto support, zlib is turned off automatically. Really drove me nuts 
until I finally figured out what the hell was going on.

Anyway, I am now able to mount compressed loops wiht my 2.4.22 kernel...

Wow. What a day! :')


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hyper-threading, SMB and Gentoo

2003-09-15 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Bingo!  Two penguins!

Thanks.

Thus spake Michael Niethen on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 04:40:06PM CDT
 [Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:44:10 -0500] Lindsay Haisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- :
  I'm building a system with an ASUS P4C800 Deluxe mb. I'm using the smp
  kernel on the Gentoo livecd, v1.4-20030911.  The BIOS settings tell me that
  hyperthreading is enabled, and the flags line in /proc/cpuinfo lists the ht
  flag, but only one CPU is listed in /proc/cpuinfo and only one shows up in
  the boot console messages.  Should I not be seeing two of them from the
  point of view of the OS?  The CPU is an Intel 2.60GHZ/512/800 (2.6 GHz, 512
  cache, 800Mhz sys. bus) which supports hyperthreading according to Intel's
  website, and the mb manual indicates that the hyperthreading option isn't
  offered in the BIOS unless it's enabled in the CPU.
  
  What am I missing?
 
 The 'smp' kernel doesn't have the proper ACPI support, which is needed.
 Try 'smp-acpi' at boot-time, it should work fine.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #8

2003-09-15 Thread Sean Johnson
The question is:

Where did you first hear about gentoo?.

I'm pretty sure it was slashdot ... 

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #8

2003-09-15 Thread Jason Tedesco
This guy was telling me to check it out on IRC.  Ausnet server #melb-wireless

Ciao for now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?

2003-09-15 Thread David Friggens
* Lindsay Haisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-15 17:40]:
 Thus spake David Friggens on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 04:57:22PM CDT
  * Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-15 09:57]:

OK, I've got my wires crossed a bit. Mark - you can pretty much ignore
what I said. :-)

I started to do a bit more googling, but the firewall I'm currently
behind has just died. No more web surfing for a while...

   and I do not get the System.map, config and vmlinuz files in /boot. However,
  vmlinux is your kernel. Often necessary. System.map is the symbol map and

I hadn't come across vmlinuz, so I just assumed it was a typo for
vmlinux. Before the firewall died I came across this:

  If you find a file name 'vmlinux' in the top directory of the source
  tree, just ignore it.  This is an intermediate file and you can't boot
  from it.

[ http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2001-51/0088.html ]

But you can on ppc and sparc... :-)

 bzImage doesn't contain the system symbol map, but the symbol map is

I'm sure I read that it does. I'll assume I'm wrong as I wait to track
down my source later on.

 /boot/vmlinuz (if it's the working kernel image) is _always_ required. 

Sorry, I meant to put a :-) after saying the kernel is often required.


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[gentoo-user] Cups Quandry

2003-09-15 Thread Ernie Schroder
I have re-emerged cups, ghostscript, hpijs and gimp-print but still 
cannot get my printer working again. I believe that the problem 
started at the last cups update. (somewhere around 8/4/03) It is a 
USB HP deskjet 932 and worked fine until then. After re-emerging the 
above apps, I attempted to restart cups and got the !! next to 
stopping cupsd So, I rebooted. during the boot sequence, I saw the 
following message:

starting cupsd[OK]
cupsd: Child exited with status 99!

# cupsdconf[returns]

Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You 
probably don't have the access permissions to perform this operation.

opening the printer section of the KDE Control Center gives the 
following error in a pop up window:

Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from 
manager:
Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is 
correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused.

I can't get into the web based cups page either. typing MRK:631 in a 
browser takes me to some arbitrary web page on the outside, though 
Ernie:631 on the other box works. It looks like I have something 
messed up somewhere but I can't figure it out. Anyone have an idea?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system

2003-09-15 Thread blade-
its all ok for me

[EMAIL PROTECTED] blade- # emerge -u system
Calculating system dependencies ...done!
 Auto-cleaning packages ...
 No outdated packages were found on your system.

* GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

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Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote:

Has anyone else had problems using emerge -u system today?  Everytime I have
used this command today, it has timed out on me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] advice regarding LVM needed

2003-09-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Sep 2003, at 2:05 pm, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Montag, 15. September 2003 15:04 schrieb Collins Richey:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.6 kernel dropped support 
for
LVM, and thus EVMS is now the only way to fly?
Both LVM2 and EVMS2 use Sistina's Device Mapper which has been 
integrated
into 2.6 in favor of LVM1.
Sorry. I don't understand what you just said. 8-\
I think LVM2 is supposed to be backwards compatible with LVM1. Is that 
right..?

Stroller.

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