Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:29:05 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: The lady has a way with words! particularly for someone from the .nl domain :-/ Holly is American... so it's even more surprising GDR -- Neil Bothwick You have a tendency to feel you are superior to most computers. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:24:43 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: No wonder you find world unsatisfactory unless you use --oneshot every time Of course I do, when the package is not already in world or system: there's now an easy abbreviation '-1'. I know about, and use, -1, but the full name makes the post more understandable to those that don't. Otherwise, I keep a list of all the packages I have installed -- something Gentoo should provide automatically, but 'world' doesn't, Yes it does. world provides a list of all packages YOU have installed. Rubbish ! It doesn't list packages installed in support of another during the same emerge command. Read what I wrote again. Hell, I even emphasised YOU and you missed it. Dependencies are installed by portage, not the user. I don't give a flying fig whether libfoo is installed or why it was installed, as long as the packages that need it can find it. However, I don't want cruft on my system, and world lets me avoid that, because I can remove all packages that were neither installed by me nor a dependency of something else. qpkg -I equery list find /var/db/pkg -name '*.ebuild' will all do this. Yes exactly, as I said, I started my own list from 'qpkg -I', but that doesn't update the list nor tell me when/why I installed things. The list is automatically updated, it is in /var/db, just not as a single text file like world. As for when you installed things, this information is in /var/log/emerge.log, which can be read manually or parsed by tools like genlop. I don't think anything is intelligent enough to work out why you installed a package. If you mean to mark what pulled it in as a dependency, that information is irrelevant. Does it really matter which package caused X to be installed (probably kdebase on my systems) when so many others depend on it. The original dependent package may not even be present, as with kdebase here. Really, I am constantly shocked by the blinkers some people wear: That's the way you're supposed to do it everyone else does. The quote should be that's how world is supposed to be used. You are trying to do something for which world was not designed. Don't blame a hammer because it does a poor job of driving in screws, find a screwdriver instead. Anyway, enough of this side-issue for now. The world concept is a core part of Gentoo, it can never be considered a side issue. The main problem with world is the number of people that do not understand the concept correctly. Not because they are stupid, but because it is not obviously documented in the handbook, I too screwed up my world file on my first Gentoo system. -- Neil Bothwick Hm..what's this red button fo|'».'NO CARRIER signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:36:11 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? gensplash has its own tools for creating the initrd/initramfs for the boot splash. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 013: Unexpected error - Huh ? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remore control of current desktop
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:08:26 -0800, Steven Susbauer wrote: As stated before, x11vnc is by far the easiest system to set this up with. When you have an x session running, you can run x11vnc (that's all you need to type) and then connect from anywhere. You can also make the current KDE desktop available from Control Centre/Internet Network/Desktop Sharing. -- Neil Bothwick RAM disk is *not* an installation procedure. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cntrl menu,other browser fnts (not wwwpage fnts)-firefox
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:23:49 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean `konq' I'd been trying to get used to it, but today I got so irritated with that sorry search application I fired up firefox. The search app just dies once its made the circuit of a page. Open a new page and the search thing has to have its throat cut and be born again to start working again. Press / and start typing your search string. It's been there since 3.4 (I think) and is much faster than opening a dialog. It also loops back to the start when it reaches the end of the page. I agree that being able press F3 and use the same search string after changing pages would be useful. -- Neil Bothwick God is real, unless specifically declared integer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cntrl menu,other browser fnts (not wwwpage fnts)-firefox
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:02:21 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: WARNING: Parallel emerge has never borked my system, but I don't know that it's completely safe. I do know is confuses the heck out of emerge --resume. :( It has never cause a problem for me either. If you are worried, you could Ctrl-Z the existing emerge before starting the new one, then restart the original with fg. -- Neil Bothwick I am a Cub Ranger. We dib dib dib for the One. We dob dob dob for the One. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Willie Wong wrote: For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting success might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an arbitrary gallery from the right when it appears, open up javascript console from Tools-Javascript console in Firefox or Tools-Web development-Javascript Console in Mozilla. Click on one of the thumbnails on the right (the hyperlink should say javascript.switchImage(2)), and see the image fail to load. I'm one of the people who reported success. I followed your instructions above, and the image loads just fine. John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:36:11 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? gensplash has its own tools for creating the initrd/initramfs for the boot splash. esearch doesn't know about gensplash. What package is it a part of? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
On 12/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:36:11 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? gensplash has its own tools for creating the initrd/initramfs for the boot splash. esearch doesn't know about gensplash. What package is it a part of? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list It's in media-gfx/splashutils -- Andres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:46:00 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gensplash has its own tools for creating the initrd/initramfs for the boot splash. esearch doesn't know about gensplash. What package is it a part of? splashutils - full info at http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/ -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, when his spliff went out. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Domain Name not getting set properly...
I am having some problems with setting up my domain name on my new gentoo box. I believe I have everything setup according to the handbook, but for some reason hostname -d does not return a domain name and just complains that it is not know. I have this working correctly on my older box, but I seem to recall that this was an issue on that box as well. I have domainname and hostname in my default and boot runlevels. This doesn't seem right, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. I have setup /etc/conf.d/domainname. I'm not sure what I'm missing. Jessica -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Domain Name not getting set properly...
Am Montag, den 19.12.2005, 03:33 -0800 schrieb Jessica Rasku: I am having some problems with setting up my domain name on my new gentoo box. I believe I have everything setup according to the handbook, but for some reason hostname -d does not return a domain name and just complains that it is not know. I have this working correctly on my older box, but I seem to recall that this was an issue on that box as well. I have domainname and hostname in my default and boot runlevels. This doesn't seem right, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. I have setup /etc/conf.d/domainname. I'm not sure what I'm missing. If you're not running local DNS /etc/hosts might be the crucial file. What did you put in there? Jessica -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
John Jolet schreef: On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:58 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On 12/18/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: Do anyone know what was meant by the final comment? I've copied it here for ease of discussion. How do I set the Java VM to the JDK? Why is this recommended? 1) java-config. OK. Thanks Holly. But if I'm going to set the VM to be the jdk, then why install the jre? I guess I have no clue about the difference between the jre and the jdk or why both are needed or what each one does. I can say that installing the jdk broke one aspect of the sun jre. Bummer for me. this has always confused me...if you install the jdk, in the path with the jdk (/usr/local/java for instance), there's a jre directory...you have /usr/local/java/bin/java and /usr/local/java/jre/ bin/java.both. so you don't need to install both. the jdk is INCLUSIVE of the jre. Not on my system (32-bit). If I try to use the Sun jre alone, I get the same errors that Mark reported if I try to set it as the system VM; using it as user VM seemed OK as I recall. Eventually I got tired of having the system vm and the user vm being different (probably me being anal rather than a real issue), and since using Sun 1.5.0.* as the user VM hadn't seemed to cause any major issues, I attempted to make it the system VM as well, at which point I got this stuff (this is Mark's, but this was the same error I got): * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND System Virtual Machine set You may want to update your enviroment by running: /usr/sbin/env-update source /etc/profile Unfortunately I don't remember what was actually in the /bin folder as I have since uninstalled the jre and set both the user and system vm to the sun jdk. But either java and jar really weren't there, or they were and java-config couldn't find them, and in either case I really didn't have the time or interest to investigate the root issue (gotta choose your battles with Gentoo, sometimes ;-) ), so I just switched everything to the jdk (which works fine, despite being only 1.4.2, when some apps I use recommend 1.5.0+), uninstalled the jre (I had previously unmerged/masked the blackdown jre when I installed Sun's) and went on with my week (last week, I think this was). Haven't noticed any issues with having done so; web browsers seem to work, as well as what java-based apps I use. So I admit I don't know what the problem is, and I also concede that it probably shouldn't be happening (as you say), but I confirm that Mark's original issue does seem to be real and that is the workaround/hack I used to bypass it when I encountered it. However, any real Java users/developers might find it is inappropriate and I make no guarantees that it is. It's just what worked for me, because I didn't like that error at all-- though I don't necessarily think that it was fatal or even critical or that I would have had problems had I just let it stand and used the Sun jre as the system vm (after all, what do I do as root with Java? Nothing, afaik). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mkinitrd :) you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? The nifty graphics on boot are not provided by any kernel initrd you may create, though such graphics may be *included* in any such initrd. The splash initrd is created by a separate application, splashutils. If this utility is present, you can use it to make a boot initrd with the graphics (or, I believe, get genkernel to include the graphics in the initrd it makes by default), but you can compile the splash directly into the kernel and bypass the initrd completely (if you don't use genkernel which is going to make one anyway). If that's all you're concerned about (the pretty splash), then what you want to read is http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash This will explain how to set up your kernel to support splashutils and how to get it running on your system, either with or without an initrd (I used to use an initrd, but I don't anymore and compile the splash directly into the kernel). I can confirm that the Wiki instructions do work correctly, but you can also follow the link to Spock's Gensplash page (Spock is the Gentoo dev who created fbsplash and splashutils), where he has short instructions as well. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
Hi all, First of all best wishes for the Christmas season. I have a dvd that I created in nero on (wi...) of a school's christmas productions. I have been trying to copy this dvd on my gentoo box using k3b version 0.12.10 (Using KDE 3.4.3) The image was created ok and is k3b_image.img, when I start the copy I get the following output on the copy screen:- Using growisofs 5.21 Starting writing OPC failed. Please try writing speed 1x Fatal error at startup: input/output error Unable to eject media Even if I try speed x1, I get the same errors. This is the Debugging Output:- System --- K3b Version: 0.12.10 KDE Version: 3.4.3 QT Version: 3.3.4 Kernel: 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 Devices --- HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.00 (/dev/hdd, ) at [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM] [CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R96P; SAO/R96R; RAW/R16; RAW/R96P; RAW/R96R] DVDRW IDE1004 0040 (/dev/hdc, ) at [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW] [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R96P; SAO/R96R; RAW/R16; RAW/R96P; RAW/R96R; Restricted Overwrite] Used versions --- growisofs: 5.21 growisofs --- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/tmp/kde-paul/k3b_image.img of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=/tmp/kde-paul/k3b_image.img -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -dvd-compat This is the output from the command line k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry. QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key How can I resolve this??? How else can I copy this dvd? This is urgent as I need to produce as many copies today as possible. Thanks in anticipation of your help Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:55:31 +, Paul wrote: I have been trying to copy this dvd on my gentoo box using k3b version 0.12.10 (Using KDE 3.4.3) The image was created ok and is k3b_image.img, when I start the copy I get the following output on the copy screen:- Using growisofs 5.21 Starting writing OPC failed. Please try writing speed 1x Fatal error at startup: input/output error Unable to eject media Firstly, have you checked that the image file is good? You should be able to play it with mplayer or xine, e.g. mplayer -dvd-device /path/to/k3b_image.img dvd://1 Second choice, maybe the most likely, is the media OK? Have you tried writing with growisofs directly? growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=/path/to/k3b_image.img -- Neil Bothwick There are some micro-organisms that exhibit characteristics of both plants and animals. When exposed to light they undergo photosynthesis; and when the lights go out, they turn into animals. But then again, don't we all? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help correcting my DNS configuration
On 2005-12-16 10:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it frequently does) my applications which require knowing what host they're running on. They don't seem to be smart enough to look at /etc/hosts. Some people on one of my Linux lists suggested that Did you check to make sure /etc/nsswitch.conf is correctly set up for files-based name resolution, and that you have *all* of the necessary entries in /etc/hosts? -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * pgpdepH45x88r.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] World Of Warcraft - Works like MAGIC on Gentoo
* On Dec 18 10:14, Jeff (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: Just to let you guys know, not that it means anything special, but WoW works like a DREAM on Gentoo. I know this isn't a help with the mouse pointer fix, but did you do anything special to get WoW to run? I tried every patch I found but none helped. (As a note, I assume you've checked the WoW thread in the Gentoo forums?) I kept having trouble. If I used -opengl, the game would crash after char select, after all the files loaded - just before anything displayed, it bombed. If I used the native directx, the game would load, but the textures were completely wonky. Tom pgpgP35OUAVLV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
The basic difference between JDK and JRE is that jdk is the complete development environment that includes the compiler (javac), while jre just contains the basic VM to run the java code (.class and .jar files), so, if you need to compile a .java file, you will need the jdk but if you just need to run something that is already compiled, you just use the VM. JDK contains the VM. []s Felipe On 12/19/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Jolet schreef: On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:58 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On 12/18/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: Do anyone know what was meant by the final comment? I've copied it here for ease of discussion. How do I set the Java VM to the JDK? Why is this recommended? 1) java-config. OK. Thanks Holly. But if I'm going to set the VM to be the jdk, then why install the jre? I guess I have no clue about the difference between the jre and the jdk or why both are needed or what each one does. I can say that installing the jdk broke one aspect of the sun jre. Bummer for me. this has always confused me...if you install the jdk, in the path with the jdk (/usr/local/java for instance), there's a jre directory...you have /usr/local/java/bin/java and /usr/local/java/jre/ bin/java.both. so you don't need to install both. the jdk is INCLUSIVE of the jre. Not on my system (32-bit). If I try to use the Sun jre alone, I get the same errors that Mark reported if I try to set it as the system VM; using it as user VM seemed OK as I recall. Eventually I got tired of having the system vm and the user vm being different (probably me being anal rather than a real issue), and since using Sun 1.5.0.* as the user VM hadn't seemed to cause any major issues, I attempted to make it the system VM as well, at which point I got this stuff (this is Mark's, but this was the same error I got): * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND System Virtual Machine set You may want to update your enviroment by running: /usr/sbin/env-update source /etc/profile Unfortunately I don't remember what was actually in the /bin folder as I have since uninstalled the jre and set both the user and system vm to the sun jdk. But either java and jar really weren't there, or they were and java-config couldn't find them, and in either case I really didn't have the time or interest to investigate the root issue (gotta choose your battles with Gentoo, sometimes ;-) ), so I just switched everything to the jdk (which works fine, despite being only 1.4.2, when some apps I use recommend 1.5.0+), uninstalled the jre (I had previously unmerged/masked the blackdown jre when I installed Sun's) and went on with my week (last week, I think this was). Haven't noticed any issues with having done so; web browsers seem to work, as well as what java-based apps I use. So I admit I don't know what the problem is, and I also concede that it probably shouldn't be happening (as you say), but I confirm that Mark's original issue does seem to be real and that is the workaround/hack I used to bypass it when I encountered it. However, any real Java users/developers might find it is inappropriate and I make no guarantees that it is. It's just what worked for me, because I didn't like that error at all-- though I don't necessarily think that it was fatal or even critical or that I would have had problems had I just let it stand and used the Sun jre as the system vm (after all, what do I do as root with Java? Nothing, afaik). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] rsnap failure in cp -al leads to deletion of all but one Hourly*
Cross post alert! = posted on gentoo and rsnapshot Gentoo linux kernel-2.6.14 rsnapshot-1.2.1-r1 rsync-2.6.6-r1 Failure of cp -al doesn't leave enough log info to id what is wrong. Some kind of failure happened from one day to the next: Dec 15 /bin/rm -rf /bk/rsnap/hourly.5/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.4/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.5/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.3/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.4/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.2/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.3/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.1/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.2/ /bin/cp -al /bk/rsnap/hourly.0/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.1/ /usr/bin/rsync -a --delete --numeric-ids --links --delete-excluded --stats \ --exclude-from=/mnt/pack/rc/rsnap_Reader_exclude /home/ \ /bk/rsnap/hourly.0/reader_home/ [...] No problems above.. === Now Dec 16 /bin/rm -rf /bk/rsnap/hourly.5/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.4/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.5/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.3/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.4/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.2/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.3/ mv /bk/rsnap/hourly.1/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.2/ /bin/cp -al /bk/rsnap/hourly.0/ /bk/rsnap/hourly.1/ /bin/cp: target `/bk/rsnap/hourly.1/' is not a directory: No such file or directory rsnapshot encountered an error! The program was invoked with these options: /usr/bin/rsnapshot -c /etc/rsnap_Reader.conf hourly ERROR: /bin/cp failed. Perhaps this is not GNU cp? ERROR: Error! cp_al(/bk/rsnap/hourly.0/, /bk/rsnap/hourly.1/) Well of coures hourly.1 is not present, it was just moved to hourly.2.. It is gnu cp and running cp -al hourly.0 hourly.1 there does work. hourly.0 is currently 1.9G, is that big enough to cause a timeout? I just can't spot a problem in the /bk directory... I have been doing lots of installing since it is a new install and being brought up to speed. I can't imagine what would have changed in gnu cp to cause this. More likely rsnaphot I guess but I see no traffic here like that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
On Monday 19 Dec 2005 13:24, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:55:31 +, Paul wrote: I have been trying to copy this dvd on my gentoo box using k3b version 0.12.10 (Using KDE 3.4.3) The image was created ok and is k3b_image.img, when I start the copy I get the following output on the copy screen:- Using growisofs 5.21 Starting writing OPC failed. Please try writing speed 1x Fatal error at startup: input/output error Unable to eject media Firstly, have you checked that the image file is good? You should be able to play it with mplayer or xine, e.g. mplayer -dvd-device /path/to/k3b_image.img dvd://1 Yes it workd with mplayer but goes straight into the first video ( there are two on the dvd and a menu. Second choice, maybe the most likely, is the media OK? The media is the same as I am using to write the dvd on that other operating system. Have you tried writing with growisofs directly? growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=/path/to/k3b_image.img This is the error using growisofs directly. growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=/tmp/kde-paul/k3b_image.img Executing 'builtin_dd if=/tmp/kde-paul/k3b_image.img of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error Thanks for your quick response, What else can I try? Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/net.lo lots of output ..ack
This morning I'm trying to unravel the non-clear chain of events involved in the init scripts. I'm getting lots of messy output from /etc/init.d/net.lo and looking at net.lo, I'm not able to see where all this stuff is being loaded. I'm taling about the contents of: `depend' for example. There is a for loop that calls the function `depend' and when it runs I see the output below. More than half of this stuff isn't even installed far as I know. It is preventing most services from starting by way of the normal channels although they can be started without problems by hand and using the flags found in /etc/conf.d. Can anyone guess what is causing this? I did overwrite the old net.lo yesterday with the .cfg000 after an update but the diff showed no differences with previous one. I still have previous one and it isn't different. I tried a copy of net.lo that IS different from back in Nov sometime but it produces the same output. The trouble must be somewhere futher up. == /etc/init.d/ntpd start * Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ] * Starting eth1 * adsl does not support the required function provides * apipa does not support the required function check_installed * arping does not support the required function provides * bonding does not support the required function provides * bridge does not support the required function provides * dhclient does not support the required function provides * dhcpcd does not support the required function provides * essidnet does not support the required function check_installed * ifconfig does not support the required function provides * ifplugd does not support the required function provides * ipppd does not support the required function provides * iproute2 does not support the required function provides * iptunnel does not support the required function check_installed * iwconfig does not support the required function provides * macchanger does not support the required function check_installed * macnet does not support the required function check_installed * netplugd does not support the required function provides * pppd does not support the required function provides * pump does not support the required function provides * rename does not support the required function check_installed * system does not support the required function check_installed * tuntap does not support the required function provides * udhcpc does not support the required function provides * vlan does not support the required function provides * wpa_supplicant does not support the required function provides * no interface module has been loaded * ERROR: Problem starting needed services. * ntpd was not started. HOST:reader /bk/rsnap -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:46:27 -0500 Ernie Schroder wrote: But as you say, enough. Holly The lady has a way with words! -- Regards, Ernie particularly for someone from the .nl domain :-/ Your asking for it now, Nick heheh -- Edward A Mihalow Jr Gentoo! Linux Registered Linux User#225662 New Orleans,LA -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: rsnap failure in cp -al leads to deletion of all but one Hourly*
Simon Boulet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, This is a known issue with newer versions of GNU cp and Rsnapshot. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8988105forum_id=41320 Update to Rsnapshot 1.2.3. Excellent info... thanks. It seems there should be some safeguard in place to prevent a change like this from allowing rsnapshot to eat its previously created backups. After installing the new cp, rsnapshot ate one full hourly.* every 4 hours until only hourly.0 remains by rming hourly.5 and moving hourly.* to hourly.5. And of course it won't copy hourly.0 to hourly.1 so hourly.0 isn't even renewed either. Within a few hours your relied upon backups have chewed themselves into oblivion. I've scripted something that writes a .SUCCESS file to my rsnapshot base each run so if it isn't found right before running rsnapshot, then rsnapshot isn't run. I'm surprised there wasn't some similar safeguard built into rsnapshot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
Paul wrote: :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error That suggests a bad disk - OPC is Optimum Power Calibration and is a test done on all discs to find out how must power is needed to optimally write to the disc (can only be done 99 times on any disk) IIRC. Have you tried with another disk? -- Jonathan Wright ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.14-gentoo-r2-djnauk-b1 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+ up 15 days, 5:01, 2 users, load average: 0.99, 1.02, 0.97 -- cat /dev/random (because u never know, u may see something u like) -- About a year ago I was a guest on a network news show in New York. They were showing film clips from a gay pride parade down Fifth Avenue, but they only decided to show the part with men in dresses and heels. I had seen the parade, and there were men in business suits as well. After showing the film, the newsperson made some comments, and I found the comments extremely offensive. This is what's wrong with the media, I said. You show a fringe position. You show one point of view. You're closing the minds of the people by not showing them what the reality is. I got up and walked out, and I've never been asked back again. ~ Kathleen Nolan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] AT Keyboard help
Not exactly gentoo related, but I thought Id ask. I have an old (AMD K5) 300Mhz PC which I want to install Linux on (and use headless for music streaming) but it requires an AT keyboard (which I dont have). The Issue is that the BIOS refuses to go past post, asking me to plug in a keyboard. My question is this: Is there any way to make the PC think an AT keyboard is connected (e.g. by shorting two pins). I googled around for ages with no avail, hence why im doing this (Rather off-topic) post to this list. Thanks alot for your help Ognjen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
On Monday 19 Dec 2005 15:38, Jonathan Wright wrote: Paul wrote: :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error That suggests a bad disk - OPC is Optimum Power Calibration and is a test done on all discs to find out how must power is needed to optimally write to the disc (can only be done 99 times on any disk) IIRC. Have you tried with another disk? Thanks for the suggestion. I am now in the process of writing the image file using a different make of disc. How silly of me to think that if discs work on windows they should work on linux Thanks for all who have helped Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Paul wrote: On Monday 19 Dec 2005 15:38, Jonathan Wright wrote: Paul wrote: :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error That suggests a bad disk - OPC is Optimum Power Calibration and is a test done on all discs to find out how must power is needed to optimally write to the disc (can only be done 99 times on any disk) IIRC. Have you tried with another disk? Thanks for the suggestion. I am now in the process of writing the image file using a different make of disc. How silly of me to think that if discs work on windows they should work on linux don't assume it's the os...could very well be the burner. unless it's the same box and dual-boot? I've been working with burners since there was only 1x scsi cdr and the media was $25/each. There has ALWAYS been great variation in media and burner compatibility. It's a LOT better than it used to be, but still Thanks for all who have helped Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AT Keyboard help
Well, you can't do much without a keyboard. You can't configure the BIOS to ignore errors because you can't hit DEL (or any other config key), and if you could enter the BIOS configuration program, you couldn't set it up. IF you could boot it, still you couldn't type anything at the prompt in order to configure and/or activate SSH or any other tool so you could START the install process remotely. My advice... Get an AT keyboard or one of those converters that let you plug in a recent keyboard (I have a lot of those, but I'm kinda far away from you). On 12/19/05, Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not exactly gentoo related, but I thought Id ask. I have an old (AMD K5) 300Mhz PC which I want to install Linux on (and use headless for music streaming) but it requires an AT keyboard (which I dont have). The Issue is that the BIOS refuses to go past post, asking me to plug in a keyboard. My question is this: Is there any way to make the PC think an AT keyboard is connected (e.g. by shorting two pins). I googled around for ages with no avail, hence why im doing this (Rather off-topic) post to this list. Thanks alot for your help Ognjen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 000299 !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.4.1-r1 failed.
On 12/18/05, Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, I decided it was time to try and upgrade my ATI Drivers to see if it would help with the White colored textures in the NWN's CEP Hak's, so I set aside the whole day to get this done. I figured I'd also upgrade Xorg while I was at it so I tried installing Xorg 7 which is working now, but only using the Vesa Driver Module. I cannot get it to recognize 3D yet because I cant even get Mesa to recompile. It keeps asking for glxproto.h, but I cannot find any package that has that file, let alone get it installed so mesa sees it. I know that without Mesa, there really isnt much hope to get any 3D driver running at all. I saw a bug report for this as an Xorg bug, but there was no current workaround in the comments for it. (Bug URL: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115029). Is there a known workaround for this yet? I was going to try to find the file and just stick it in the includes path that its looking for, but that cant be a very good workaround. I am not sure, but I think you need to merge x11-proto/glproto -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] how2use gaim for google talks
dear friends, i configured gaim for google talks as they shown it on their guide(google.com). but i don't no how to use it to chat(not talk). when i click on 'Join a Chat' from the gaim menu. it asks Room: Server: Handle: Password: can any body help me... -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-r5-sinhalese-r1.0 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how2use gaim for google talks
Google talk is an instant messenger where you talk directly to the other users, you don't use chat rooms. So you've just got to add your friends to your list. Cheers, Felipe Ribeiro On 12/19/05, El Nino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear friends, i configured gaim for google talks as they shown it on their guide(google.com). but i don't no how to use it to chat(not talk). when i click on 'Join a Chat' from the gaim menu. it asks Room: Server: Handle: Password: can any body help me... -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-r5-sinhalese-r1.0 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how2use gaim for google talks
On 12/19/05, El Nino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear friends, i configured gaim for google talks as they shown it on their guide(google.com). but i don't no how to use it to chat(not talk). when i click on 'Join a Chat' from the gaim menu. it asks Room: Server: Handle: Password: can any body help me... All you need to do is add your gmail contacts to your buddy list (add them as contact type: Jabber) and you can chat with them the exact same way as you would any other IM contact. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 000299 !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.4.1-r1 failed.
On 12/19/05, Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, I decided it was time to try and upgrade my ATI Drivers to see if it would help with the White colored textures in the NWN's CEP Hak's, so I set aside the whole day to get this done. I figured I'd also upgrade Xorg while I was at it so I tried installing Xorg 7 which is working now, but only using the Vesa Driver Module. I cannot get it to recognize 3D yet because I cant even get Mesa to recompile. It keeps asking for glxproto.h, but I cannot find any package that has that file, let alone Xorg 7 is masked, and it requires lots of prototype libraries that are installed with it (tried emerging it, but gave up after seeing the ammount of proto stuff). In order to get my unichrome driver to load GLX, I had to go with a masked xorg, so I got Xorg 6.8.99, it only required a few lines at package.unmask, no proto libraries and had all the stuff I needed. get it installed so mesa sees it. I know that without Mesa, there really isnt much hope to get any 3D driver running at all. I saw a bug report for this as an Xorg bug, but there was no current workaround in the comments for it. (Bug URL: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115029). Is there a known workaround for this yet? I was going to try to find the file and just stick it in the includes path that its looking for, but that cant be a very good workaround. 000260 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -I. -I../../../include -I../../../include/GL/internal -I../../../src/mesa/main -I../../../src/mesa/glapi -I../../../src/mesa/drivers/dri/common `pkg-config --cflags libdrm` -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -O3 -march=athlon-xp -fPIC -m32 -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPTHREADS -DUSE_EXTERNAL_DXTN_LIB=1 -DIN_DRI_DRIVER -DGLX_DIRECT_RENDERING -DHAVE_ALIAS -DXF86VIDMODE -D_REENTRANT -UIN_DRI_DRIVER -DDEFAULT_DRIVER_DIR='/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri' -DUSE_X86_ASM -DUSE_MMX_ASM -DUSE_3DNOW_ASM -DUSE_SSE_ASM -std=c99 -ffast-math -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPTHREADS -DUSE_EXTERNAL_DXTN_LIB=1 -DIN_DRI_DRIVER -DGLX_DIRECT_RENDERING -DHAVE_ALIAS -DXF86VIDMODE -D_REENTRANT -UIN_DRI_DRIVER -DDEFAULT_DRIVER_DIR='/usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri' clientattrib.c -o clientattrib.o 000261 In file included from clientattrib.c:38: 000262 glxclient.h:59:25: GL/glxproto.h: No such file or directory 000263 In file included from clientattrib.c:38: 000264 glxclient.h:257: error: parse error before GLXContextTag 000265 glxclient.h:257: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union 000266 glxclient.h:401: error: parse error before '}' token 000267 In file included from clientattrib.c:39: -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Try downgrading your Xorg to the 6.8.99, and try MESA and your ATI drivers. Just my two cents. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:19:59 +0100 | jangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | hi | | -- | gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list | hello *g* Registered Linux User #404755 with Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 web: www.trustop.org kontakt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAntiVirus: vers. 0.87.1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On 12/19/05, Felipe Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The basic difference between JDK and JRE is that jdk is the complete development environment that includes the compiler (javac), while jre just contains the basic VM to run the java code (.class and .jar files), so, if you need to compile a .java file, you will need the jdk but if you just need to run something that is already compiled, you just use the VM. JDK contains the VM. []s Felipe So I just finished playing with this a bit more. Maybe it's an implementation problem (there are a few...) but it doesn't seem this simple. There is a problem I'm having with Java in Linux overall. There is a certain drop down menu, you know the one where there is a downward pointing arrow where you hit the arrow and get a list of choices, and it wasn't working. I had the blackdown-jre installed. I do not have this problem on my Mac Mini (OS X 10.4.3) and I don't have this problem on Win XP. 1) I tried all versions of blackdown-jre in portage. They all had this problem. I get only one option and I do not get the arrow. 2) I added the blackdown-jdk to the mix. No change. 3) I installed the sun-jre-bin. No change. Didn't work. 4) I removed everything and reinstalled the sun-jre-bin. It started working. 5) I installed the blackdown-jdk. It failed again. 6) I removed the blackdown-jdk and restarted Firefox. It worked. This all might make sense to an experienced Java person but to someone like me, your normal, basic stupid user type, it makes no sense. Combine that problem with the javascript problem, and some attitude issues in the bug reporting system, and I just end up wondering if it's worth it sometimes. I don't get it. java-config -L said the sun-jre-bin VM was the one being used but having the jdk installed created problems. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Whaddup! Welcome to the list. :-) jangar wrote: hi -- Darth Vader: Commander, tear this ship apart until you've found those plans. And bring me the passengers, I want them alive! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Andy Stern wrote: | On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:19:59 +0100 | jangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | hi | | -- | gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list | hello *g* Registered Linux User #404755 with Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 web: www.trustop.org kontakt: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAntiVirus: vers. 0.87.1 Few words of advice. Bottom post and email text only. Folks will stomp on you until there is a mudhole then stomp it dry if you do either of those. Then add in that most block emails that have HTML in it so they will not see what you post anyway. I'm not sure why they block HTML but I was told they do. Welcome aboard. Sometimes it is a fun ride. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AT Keyboard help
Ditto that. If you can't find an old AT keyboard at the local tip then try posting a wanted on your local Freecycle group http://freecycle.org. Someone's sure to have one. Stroller. On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:26 pm, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... configure the BIOS to ignore errors [by hitting] DEL... My advice... Get an AT keyboard... On 12/19/05, Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an old (AMD K5) 300Mhz PC which I want to install Linux on (and use headless for music streaming) but it requires an AT keyboard (which I dont have). The Issue is that the BIOS refuses to go past post, asking me to plug in a keyboard. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Few words of advice. Bottom post and email text only. but with sufficient clipping of the text that you're including in the reply :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 000299 !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.4.1-r1 failed.
On 12/19/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure, but I think you need to merge x11-proto/glproto Also, media-libs/mesa-6.4.1-r1 (the ~x86 version) already has this dependancy. Which version are you trying to merge? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AT Keyboard help
On Monday 19 December 2005 16:31, Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have an old (AMD K5) 300Mhz PC which I want to install Linux on (and use headless for music streaming) but it requires an AT keyboard (which I dont have). The Issue is that the BIOS refuses to go past post, asking me to plug in a keyboard. My question is this: Is there any way to make the PC think an AT keyboard is connected (e.g. by shorting two pins). I googled around for ages with no avail, hence why im doing this (Rather off-topic) post to this list. If you can't get a PS2-AT keybord adapter, you can made one yourself from DIN+mini connectors and piece of cable. Your situation is typical case I usually comment system administrator shoud have soldering skill... Connector:PS2 1 data 2 reserved 3 GND 4 +5V 5 clock 6 reserved AT keyboard connector Connector: 5 pin DIN 1 clock 2 data 3 NC 4 GND 5 +5V Quickest way is to get a cheapest PS/2 keyboard you can and put a DIN-5 connector on it instead of PS/2 one. referrence: http://teryx.bobdbob.com/~protius/pinouts/ check it triple on some other sites, just to be sure -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 000299 !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.4.1-r1 failed.
On 12/19/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try downgrading your Xorg to the 6.8.99, and try MESA and your ATI drivers. I am pretty sure the monolithic build is even less supported than the modular builds. At least the last report I saw said that all development activity was targeted at the modular X. So it may work, but I would not expect to ever see an unmasked version of xorg 6.9. Also, the dependancy stuff has gotten a lot better recently, although you still have some manual merging to do. But as usual, things are usually hard-masked for a reason, and unmasking xorg 7 is not for the faint-of-heart. And doing that on a stable system is probably nearly impossible~x86 is almost certainly required. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Denis wrote: Few words of advice. Bottom post and email text only. but with sufficient clipping of the text that you're including in the reply :) I always forget. :-( Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how2use gaim for google talks
If anyone is wondering about the settings, add a new account and set the following: Protocol: jabber Screen Name: Account Name, stuff before the @gmail.com Server: gmail.com Resource: Gaim Password: Email Account Password Alias: Nickname Under show more options Port: 5222 Connect Server: talk.google.com Anyway hope that helps anyone wanting to use the Google Talk instant messenger service with gaim. Cheers Rav -- Ryan Viljoen Bsc(Eng) (Electrical) When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, for free. - Linus Torvalds, 1995 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
John Jolet wrote: On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Paul wrote: On Monday 19 Dec 2005 15:38, Jonathan Wright wrote: Paul wrote: :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error That suggests a bad disk - OPC is Optimum Power Calibration and is a test done on all discs to find out how must power is needed to optimally write to the disc (can only be done 99 times on any disk) IIRC. Have you tried with another disk? Thanks for the suggestion. I am now in the process of writing the image file using a different make of disc. How silly of me to think that if discs work on windows they should work on linux don't assume it's the os...could very well be the burner. unless it's the same box and dual-boot? I've been working with burners since there was only 1x scsi cdr and the media was $25/each. There has ALWAYS been great variation in media and burner compatibility. It's a LOT better than it used to be, but still Very true - although it could be a case of Windows 'covering' over a problem, where it would continue on this disk when Linux won't (what with it's superior tools and everything ;) I have found the DVDs are very difficult to get working reliably. In fact, I've found alot write fine in the drive, but the drive has trouble reading them again, but no problems in reading normal DVDs. It may be worthwhile looking at a different batch of disks instead of a different disk - just in-case it's a bad batch. -- Jonathan Wright ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.14-gentoo-r2-djnauk-b1 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+ up 15 days, 8:06, 2 users, load average: 1.34, 0.49, 0.18 -- cat /dev/random (because u never know, u may see something u like) -- Girls who put out are tramps. Girls who don't are ladies. This is, however, a rather archaic usage of the word. Should one of you boys happen upon a girl who doesn't put out, do not jump to the conclusion that you have found a lady. What you have probably found is a Lesbian. ~ Fran Lebowitz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] private files
Hoping some of you may know the ins and outs of somekind of privacy precautions for files on disk with such things as software reg keys, passwrds to various stuff, and stupidly... credit card numbers etc. I'm on a single user machine so the threat is from network more than console. Also I keep backup copies on a remote machine that I don't control and is part of the big bad internet. I've visualized something that somehow encrypts a directory or several. But in a handy way where it can be opened and used several times daily without bringing a lunch. I thought since I'm well familiar with tar and gzip it might be something to tar.gz the directories and encrypt the result. Deleting the source. But I'm hoping there may be stuff even easier and less time intensive. The amount of data is under 10 mb always and in fact stands around 1.6mb at present. I looked a bit at BestCrypt but decided its a big poorly documented pain in the butt. Needs kernel mods etc etc. I wondered if something as simple as passworded rar files might fill the bill. What options are out there? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Few words of advice. Bottom post and email text only. Folks will stomp on you until there is a mudhole then stomp it dry if you do either of those. Then add in that most block emails that have HTML in it so they will not see what you post anyway. I'm not sure why they block HTML but I was told they do. Welcome aboard. Sometimes it is a fun ride. Dale :-) Oh yes dont we know it :P Welcome to the list Gianluca hope you find it a useful tool in solving your problems and helping others solve theirs. -- Ryan Viljoen Bsc(Eng) (Electrical) When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, for free. - Linus Torvalds, 1995 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] private files
I thought since I'm well familiar with tar and gzip it might be something to tar.gz the directories and encrypt the result. What about mounting an encrypted filesystem in a file via loopback device? Once configured, it can easily be mounted like mount ~/Nothinginhere Passphrase: For backup issues you can simply copy the file somewhere. Disadvantage: If one bit flips in the file accidentally, your data is lost, but if so, simply restore an earlier backup file, copy the contents to the hard drive and create a new crypto file. There are easy to follow tutorials out there for sure. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:05:09 -0600, Dale wrote: Then add in that most block emails that have HTML in it so they will not see what you post anyway. I'm not sure why they block HTML but I was told they do. Because it is insecure on some mail readers and unreadable on others. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the EEC outlawed his favourite sized honey pot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 000299 !!! ERROR: media-libs/mesa-6.4.1-r1 failed.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:31:02 -0200, Daniel da Veiga wrote: Xorg 7 is masked, and it requires lots of prototype libraries that are installed with it (tried emerging it, but gave up after seeing the ammount of proto stuff). The proto packages are neither libraries nor prototypes, they are protocol header files. -- Neil Bothwick EMail - garbage at the speed of light. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] private files
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:41:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've visualized something that somehow encrypts a directory or several. But in a handy way where it can be opened and used several times daily without bringing a lunch. If you use KDE, KWallet can be used to store random information as well as web site passwords etc. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 10: Computer security signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] private files
On 12/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoping some of you may know the ins and outs of somekind of privacy precautions for files on disk with such things as software reg keys, passwrds to various stuff, and stupidly... credit card numbers etc. The KDE Wallet system is pretty much ideally suited to storing this kind of data. I'm on a single user machine so the threat is from network more than console. Don't forget about possible theft of the entire computer...especially if it is a laptop. Also I keep backup copies on a remote machine that I don't control and is part of the big bad internet. For backup just copy .kde/share/apps/kwallet/*.kwl to the remote machine. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 media manager problem
Howdy, Just upgraded KDE to 3.5 and have a minor problem. When I start KDE with a SM memory card installed in my USB reader, a removable media icon shows on the desktop. If I remove the memory card, the icon goes away. If I reinsert it, then the icon reappears and I get the A new medium has been detected. What do you want to do? dialog box. So far so good. The problem starts when I want to open the memory. If I choose open from the dialog or just click on the memory's desktop icon, I get the following error box: Error - Konqueror Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab If I right click on the memory's desktop icon and choose mount, I get the following error box: Error - kio_media_mounthelper mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Please check that the device is plugged correctly. I can manually mount the memory with: mount -t auto /dev/sde1 /mnt/usb My understanding is that pmount is suppose to eliminate the need to list each device in /etc/fstab. So I'm guessing I don't have pmount configured correctly. I'm using: hal-0.5.5.1-r1 dbus-0.50-r1 pmount-0.9.6 I have not done any manual configuration changes to these. I do not have ivman installed. Any ideas? TIA, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups/Sane and The Brother MFC-7420
On Sunday 18 December 2005 23:05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Cups/Sane and The Brother MFC-7420': Can anyone help me with the scanner now? It would be really nice to have that work. I'm running amd64, do I have 64-bit sane. The libraries they provide are, of course, 32-bit so sane won't load them. I haven't (and probably won't) install a 32-bit sane, so I'll just have to wait for 64-bit drivers from brother. Might start a new thread if I decide to use my gentoo laptop to run it and it doesn't work in 32-bit mode. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] VFS: busy inodes on changed media
dear friends, i'm using t1 serial usb modem(cdma phone modem) to connect to the internet. when i connect with de internet, the following infor giving my logger(syslog-ng). whats this mean? please help me... c 20 01:08:43 pushpaka [315621.725145] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:08:43 pushpaka [315621.728140] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:08:43 pushpaka [315622.337121] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:45 pushpaka [315624.338652] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:47 pushpaka [315626.337176] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:49 pushpaka [315628.338492] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:51 pushpaka [315630.340671] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:53 pushpaka [315632.341679] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:55 pushpaka [315634.342062] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:57 pushpaka [315636.342497] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:08:59 pushpaka [315638.343858] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:09:01 pushpaka [315640.346564] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.223291] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.226290] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.229287] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.232288] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.235289] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.238296] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.240290] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.243292] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.246294] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.249294] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:02 pushpaka [315641.252296] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:03 pushpaka [315642.346637] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:09:05 pushpaka [315644.347367] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:09:07 pushpaka [315646.347919] VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Dec 20 01:09:08 pushpaka [315646.373179] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:08 pushpaka [315646.415196] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:08 pushpaka [315646.418193] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:08 pushpaka [315646.477217] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:08 pushpaka [315646.480215] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, 64 bytes lost Dec 20 01:09:08 pushpaka [315646.523234] usb 1-1.2: ti_recv - dropping data, -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-r5-sinhalese-r1.0 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 media manager problem
On Monday 19 December 2005 20:12, Roy Wright wrote: Howdy, Just upgraded KDE to 3.5 and have a minor problem. When I start KDE with a SM memory card installed in my USB reader, a removable media icon shows on the desktop. If I remove the memory card, the icon goes away. If I reinsert it, then the icon reappears and I get the A new medium has been detected. What do you want to do? dialog box. So far so good. The problem starts when I want to open the memory. If I choose open from the dialog or just click on the memory's desktop icon, I get the following error box: Error - Konqueror Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab If I right click on the memory's desktop icon and choose mount, I get the following error box: Error - kio_media_mounthelper mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Please check that the device is plugged correctly. Add the user to the plugdev group. Regards -- Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/net.lo lots of output ..ack
quoth the [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This morning I'm trying to unravel the non-clear chain of events involved in the init scripts. I'm getting lots of messy output from /etc/init.d/net.lo and looking at net.lo, I'm not able to see where all this stuff is being loaded. I'm taling about the contents of: `depend' for example. There is a for loop that calls the function `depend' and when it runs I see the output below. More than half of this stuff isn't even installed far as I know. As best I can tell, what is happening here is that the net.lo script checks all the modules in /lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d. These scripts are all the different ways you can get a net connection, and the one used in any particular instance is decided by /etc/conf.d/net (again...as best as I can tell). In your case, it would seem the net.lo script is trying _all_ of them. So: are you absolutely sure you net conf file is written properly? It is preventing most services from starting by way of the normal channels although they can be started without problems by hand and using the flags found in /etc/conf.d. Can you elaborate here? Do you mean that if you try: /etc/init.d/ntpd start it fails but if you use: /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start /etc/init.d/ntpd start it works? Do you have a net connection when you try this? What is the status of eth0? I am wondering why it tries to start eth1 here instead of eth0... If eth0 is already up, and a net connection is present then ntpd should be satisfied, and not try to run another net.* script. Can anyone guess what is causing this? I did overwrite the old net.lo yesterday with the .cfg000 after an update but the diff showed no differences with previous one. I still have previous one and it isn't different. I tried a copy of net.lo that IS different from back in Nov sometime but it produces the same output. The trouble must be somewhere futher up. == /etc/init.d/ntpd start * Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ] * Starting eth1 * adsl does not support the required function provides * apipa does not support the required function check_installed * arping does not support the required function provides * bonding does not support the required function provides * bridge does not support the required function provides * dhclient does not support the required function provides * dhcpcd does not support the required function provides * essidnet does not support the required function check_installed * ifconfig does not support the required function provides * ifplugd does not support the required function provides * ipppd does not support the required function provides * iproute2 does not support the required function provides * iptunnel does not support the required function check_installed * iwconfig does not support the required function provides * macchanger does not support the required function check_installed * macnet does not support the required function check_installed * netplugd does not support the required function provides * pppd does not support the required function provides * pump does not support the required function provides * rename does not support the required function check_installed * system does not support the required function check_installed * tuntap does not support the required function provides * udhcpc does not support the required function provides * vlan does not support the required function provides * wpa_supplicant does not support the required function provides * no interface module has been loaded * ERROR: Problem starting needed services. * ntpd was not started. HOST:reader /bk/rsnap -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgp47fazpTRBj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Dale wrote: Few words of advice. Bottom post and email text only. Folks will stomp on you until there is a mudhole then stomp it dry if you do either of those. Then add in that most block emails that have HTML in it so they will not see what you post anyway. I'm not sure why they block HTML but I was told they do. My motorcycling mailing list was having a number of issues with HTML mails as well. Here's a little writeup I did on why HTML was causing problems. * The Chivinmoto email lists accept the original mail, runs it through a process that reads the email, then rewrites it with ads at the bottom or events at the top, looks up who should get the email, and then sends them out. Just about all email lists use this sort of process whether they are adding things to the email or not. It's just something you have to support if you want anyone to use your product. The above is trivial for anything that is plain text. With the advent of HTML formated mail this got extremely hard to do correctly in all cases. In order to process an HTML mail and resend it I have to load nine packages just to parse and write the HTML correctly in the mail software. And as we've noticed it doesn't always work so well due to bugs in the parsing software and libraries, different HTML styles in various programs, and different HTML rendering engines in the mail client trying to read the email. If this breaks enough we start seeing the now infamous blank email problem. Additionally most mail lists attempt to sanitize the email as well. HTML emails can be formatted to take advantage of bugs in the mail client or OS of the machine that reads them. You can also embed tracking info and other things. Sanitizing in my case takes another three packages on the server. In summary manipulating HTML mails is hard, no one package does it well, and expect screwy things to happen. I highly suggest sending plain text emails to any mailing list. It always works, transfers less data, and nobody needs to see anything blink. Most mail clients will allow you to set outgoing mail is plain text always or something similar. Newer mail clients will allow you to specify always send plain text to blahblah.com which is a nice compromise if you need the ability to send HTML mails normally. I know Mozilla, Thunderbird, and Outlook support the latter. I'm reasonably sure you can do that in Apple Mail and the latest Eudora, but can't say for certain. kashani, who knows entirely too much about how email can be broken 1974 CB350F, now with 21HP * Our case was odd because the software really was crap, but eliminating HTML mails was much quicker solution than getting the provider to fix the problems their upgrade caused. Additionally I have ticketing systems at work that occasionally break HTML mails when a new client or Perl package comes out. The whole thing is a big pain in the ass though Gentoo lists seems to do pretty well with HTML in general. However I run 1900x1200 on my laptop and HTML tends to look like crap since it ignores my carefully selected font sizes. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] private files
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 12:41:51PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What options are out there? My personal favorite is app-crypt/gnupg John pgp20czflhBuS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
Mark Knecht wrote: I don't get it. java-config -L said the sun-jre-bin VM was the one being used but having the jdk installed created problems. Your problems probably have to do with the fact that emerge virtual/jre or emerge virtual/jdk sets the jdk|jre you just emerged as the system vm. Yes, this behaviour is in some regards problematic and we should improve the logic. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml You will probably find this useful. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Lost SCSI support
When I try to mount camera or USB stick I get: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device No SCSI support from kernel (using Kernel 2.6.14-4r) Doing dmesg |grep sd (I only get): dmesg |grep sd Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED]). In Kernel I have enabled: Device Drivers SCSI device support --- [*] legacy /proc/scsi/ support * SCSI disk support * SCSI generic support USB support --- [*] USB device filesystem * EHCI HCD (USB 2.0) support * UHCI HCD (most Intel and VIA) support * USB Mass Storage support cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep SCSI | grep = CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y Where else to look? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost SCSI support
On 12/19/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to mount camera or USB stick I get: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device No SCSI support from kernel (using Kernel 2.6.14-4r) Doing dmesg |grep sd (I only get): dmesg |grep sd Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED]). What messages do you get in dmesg when you attach the camera/stick. You should see something like: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 6 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: ST910082 Model: 3ARev: 3.02 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sda: 195371568 512-byte hdwr sectors (100030 MB) sda: assuming drive cache: write through Do you even get the USB connect message? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Welcome to the list. You'll certainly find a wealth of knowledge here.
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost SCSI support
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 13:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 12/19/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to mount camera or USB stick I get: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device No SCSI support from kernel (using Kernel 2.6.14-4r) Doing dmesg |grep sd (I only get): dmesg |grep sd Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED]). What messages do you get in dmesg when you attach the camera/stick. You should see something like: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 6 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: ST910082 Model: 3ARev: 3.02 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sda: 195371568 512-byte hdwr sectors (100030 MB) sda: assuming drive cache: write through Do you even get the USB connect message? -Richard No, nothing, zip. Not a single line. And I know it was working few weeks ago all of a sudden after recent upgrade (gcc etc) it stopped working. My main system is working OK, but the backup is not picking up any SCSI device when I connect them to a PC -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 media manager problem [solved]
Daniel Heemann wrote: Add the user to the plugdev group. That worked! Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost SCSI support
On 12/19/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 13:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 12/19/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to mount camera or USB stick I get: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device What messages do you get in dmesg when you attach the camera/stick. You should see something like: Do you even get the USB connect message? -Richard No, nothing, zip. Not a single line. The most likely your kernel does not have USB support built in, or USB has been disabled in the BIOS, or it is broken. The only things required to generate the new device line is working hardware and a correct kernel configuration. Did you enable /proc/config.gz support? Can you double-check your configuration there? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Domain Name not getting set properly...
Heinz Sporn wrote: Am Montag, den 19.12.2005, 03:33 -0800 schrieb Jessica Rasku: I am having some problems with setting up my domain name on my new gentoo box. I believe I have everything setup according to the handbook, but for some reason hostname -d does not return a domain name and just complains that it is not know. I have this working correctly on my older box, but I seem to recall that this was an issue on that box as well. I have domainname and hostname in my default and boot runlevels. This doesn't seem right, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. I have setup /etc/conf.d/domainname. I'm not sure what I'm missing. If you're not running local DNS /etc/hosts might be the crucial file. What did you put in there? I haven't got local DNS running. The problem is this machine has a dynamic address. This is the information there. I'm not sure if that's the problem. I also don't know how to get dynamic DNS values. It's something that I want to be able to do. I am currently running BIND on two machines, but that won't solve this problem. 127.0.0.1 localhost # IPV6 versions of localhost and co ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts Jessica -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost SCSI support
No, nothing, zip. Not a single line. The most likely your kernel does not have USB support built in, or USB has been disabled in the BIOS, or it is broken. The only things required to generate the new device line is working hardware and a correct kernel configuration. The only option in bios I see is enable PP OS installed but that didn't help. I have both USB and SCSI build-into the kernel-2.6.14-r4 Device Drivers SCSI device support --- [*] legacy /proc/scsi/ support * SCSI disk support * SCSI generic support USB support --- [*] USB device filesystem * EHCI HCD (USB 2.0) support * UHCI HCD (most Intel and VIA) support * USB Mass Storage support This would seem to me is enough to enable USB and SCSI support. Did you enable /proc/config.gz support? Can you double-check your configuration there? How do you enable it? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 05:07:28AM -0500, Penguin Lover John Blinka squawked: Willie Wong wrote: For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting success might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an arbitrary gallery from the right when it appears, open up javascript console from Tools-Javascript console in Firefox or Tools-Web development-Javascript Console in Mozilla. Click on one of the thumbnails on the right (the hyperlink should say javascript.switchImage(2)), and see the image fail to load. I'm one of the people who reported success. I followed your instructions above, and the image loads just fine. John Something is wrong on my end then. Can I have your USE flags for firefox, the version you are running, and what Javascript options you are using (i.e. from the Firefox preferences or about:config)? W -- Seen outside the LINAC control room @ Fermi Nat'l Accelerator Laboratory: (an _official_ sign) PLEASE DON'T FEED THE OPERATORS Sortir en Pantoufles: up 37 days, 13:54 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:16AM -0200, Penguin Lover Daniel da Veiga squawked: I'm using a fresh installed Gentoo and Firefox 1.0.7, so, I have no plugins (yet). And the site mentioned works great, its a simple javascript popping up a window, I even made a lot of these on my webmaster days, that specific function has no compatibility problems, it works on all browsers I've tested so far... You probably have something wrong with your browser. If it is popping up a window, you are looking at the wrong problem. The simple javascript pop-up works fine. I am talking about a specific problem in the Photo Gallery where the javascript is supposed to switch the current image displayed without opening a new window. W -- The suit into which the man's body had been stuffed looked as if it's only purpose in life was to demonstrate how difficult it was to get this sort of body into a suit. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 37 days, 13:56 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Lost SCSI support
[snip] The most likely your kernel does not have USB support built in, or USB has been disabled in the BIOS, or it is broken. The only things required to generate the new device line is working hardware and a correct kernel configuration. Simple mistake, I replaced a motherboard not to long ago and didn't plug the front USB cables to motherboard :-/. What else can I say. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On 12/19/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 05:07:28AM -0500, Penguin Lover John Blinka squawked: Willie Wong wrote: For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting success might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an arbitrary gallery from the right when it appears, open up javascript console from Tools-Javascript console in Firefox or Tools-Web development-Javascript Console in Mozilla. Click on one of the thumbnails on the right (the hyperlink should say javascript.switchImage(2)), and see the image fail to load. I'm one of the people who reported success. I followed your instructions above, and the image loads just fine. John Something is wrong on my end then. Can I have your USE flags for firefox, the version you are running, and what Javascript options you are using (i.e. from the Firefox preferences or about:config)? W Here is what is not working for us: dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv mozilla-firefox These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r4 -debug +gnome +ipv6 +java -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype -xinerama -xprint 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB dragonfly ~ # Enable Java, Enable Javascript are both checked. Javascript settings: Checked: Move or resize, Raise or lower, Disable or replace Not checked: Hide status bar, Change status bar text Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost SCSI support
On 12/19/05, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would seem to me is enough to enable USB and SCSI support. Normally, yes... Did you enable /proc/config.gz support? Can you double-check your configuration there? How do you enable it? General Setup - [*] Kernel .config support [*] Enable access to .config through /proc/config.gz Oh, one more thing. In the startup dmesg output, if your USB controller is being found, you should have messages like: carcharias rjf # grep -i -e ehci -e uhci /var/log/dmesg ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: debug port 1 ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: irq 19, io mem 0xfebffc00 ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: irq 19, io base 0xe480 uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: irq 20, io base 0xe800 uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: irq 18, io base 0xe880 uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5 uhci_hcd :00:1d.3: irq 16, io base 0xec00 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On 12/19/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:16AM -0200, Penguin Lover Daniel da Veiga squawked: I'm using a fresh installed Gentoo and Firefox 1.0.7, so, I have no plugins (yet). And the site mentioned works great, its a simple javascript popping up a window, I even made a lot of these on my webmaster days, that specific function has no compatibility problems, it works on all browsers I've tested so far... You probably have something wrong with your browser. If it is popping up a window, you are looking at the wrong problem. The simple javascript pop-up works fine. I am talking about a specific problem in the Photo Gallery where the javascript is supposed to switch the current image displayed without opening a new window. My mistake, was looking at the URL provided at the first message, when entering the Photo Gallery, it really fails to load the images, wich is a shame, I checked the code and it was written surely with IE in mind, it offers no support for different browsers and uses specific properties of the objects, ones that are not available to Mozilla implementation of Javascript. I hate when webmasters do that. W -- The suit into which the man's body had been stuffed looked as if it's only purpose in life was to demonstrate how difficult it was to get this sort of body into a suit. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 37 days, 13:56 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
On 12/19/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? Is it possible that your ISP is blocking it? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 14:53 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 12/19/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? Is it possible that your ISP is blocking it? -Richard When I signed up for this internet service they PROMISED me that the only ports they block are three ports (I don't remember the exact ports, but they were between 100 and 150) that were only used by Microsoft servers. I would call them and ask them about it, but I've had about all the BS I can stand for today.. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Neil Bothwick wrote: Because it is insecure on some mail readers and unreadable on others. Linux insecure? Never had that problem before. Unreadable I may can get though. I use Mozilla-mail so I am a new fuddy duddy. :-) I can get HTML or text only just the same. Actually mine shows up as HTML even though it is sent as text only. This, :-) , shows up as a smiley when I get the post back. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On 12/19/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/19/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:11:16AM -0200, Penguin Lover Daniel da Veiga squawked: I'm using a fresh installed Gentoo and Firefox 1.0.7, so, I have no plugins (yet). And the site mentioned works great, its a simple javascript popping up a window, I even made a lot of these on my webmaster days, that specific function has no compatibility problems, it works on all browsers I've tested so far... You probably have something wrong with your browser. If it is popping up a window, you are looking at the wrong problem. The simple javascript pop-up works fine. I am talking about a specific problem in the Photo Gallery where the javascript is supposed to switch the current image displayed without opening a new window. My mistake, was looking at the URL provided at the first message, when entering the Photo Gallery, it really fails to load the images, wich is a shame, I checked the code and it was written surely with IE in mind, it offers no support for different browsers and uses specific properties of the objects, ones that are not available to Mozilla implementation of Javascript. I hate when webmasters do that. Good info. However Safari on my Mac Mini operates correctly so whatever they do is not so crazy as to only work with IE. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
Michael Sullivan wrote: I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and now it does. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.espersunited.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.espersunited.com. 10800 IN CNAME bullet.espersunited.com. bullet.espersunited.com. 10800 IN A 192.168.1.2 kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Domain Name not getting set properly...
Am Montag, den 19.12.2005, 13:23 -0800 schrieb Jessica Rasku: Heinz Sporn wrote: Am Montag, den 19.12.2005, 03:33 -0800 schrieb Jessica Rasku: I am having some problems with setting up my domain name on my new gentoo box. I believe I have everything setup according to the handbook, but for some reason hostname -d does not return a domain name and just complains that it is not know. I have this working correctly on my older box, but I seem to recall that this was an issue on that box as well. I have domainname and hostname in my default and boot runlevels. This doesn't seem right, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. I have setup /etc/conf.d/domainname. I'm not sure what I'm missing. If you're not running local DNS /etc/hosts might be the crucial file. What did you put in there? I haven't got local DNS running. The problem is this machine has a dynamic address. This is the information there. I'm not sure if that's the problem. I also don't know how to get dynamic DNS values. It's something that I want to be able to do. I am currently running BIND on two machines, but that won't solve this problem. If you want hostname -f to get a FQDN for your machine you may want to try the following: Say your FQDN is expected to be: myhost.mydoamin.com then you have to add the following to /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 myhost.mydomain.com myhost localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost # IPV6 versions of localhost and co ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts Jessica -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 12:46 pm, Willie Wong wrote: From my limited knowledge of javascript, I can't tell whether it is a badly written javascript that parses in IE but not in Firefox, or Firefox not supporting the full standard, or perhaps the site-designer used some IE-only extensions. As a web developer, allow me to interject a little bit of an explanation here. Not only is there a difference between Java and Javascript, there is a difference between Javascript and Jscript - the crap that IE invented. Then there's also ECMAScript - which was a standards body invented version of the other two. Add to that, there are multiple different Document Object Models between the different browsers, which is the language's object tree structure that defines how every element in the page and the code is named. So, since there are a half dozen or more different ways for the different browsers to try to execute the Javascript code, you'll find sites that will only support the browser that their programmer uses, or that will have half of the javascript on the page devoted to trying to figure out what browser you're using, followed by a bunch of if/thens with multiple different flavors of the code that will HOPEFULLY work for the browser that you're actually using, and sites that just disregard Javascript entirely rather than try to deal with the headaches. Search javascript hell on Google. Note the 3 million results. :-) Basically, if it isn't working right now, don't hold your breath for it to be fixed, either by the Firefox team, or the website developers. -- Eric Bliss systems design and integration, CreativeCow.Net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] RFC about kooka block
aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka in *... ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.0-r3 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka) aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kooka These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3 [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 [ebuild N] kde-base/libkscan-3.4.3 [ebuild N] kde-base/kooka-3.4.3 but, for example: aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kde-base/superkaramba These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies...done! [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdeutils-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0) [ebuild N] kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0 aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba in *... ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.0 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba) Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is already installed? Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split ebuilds :-) Is this a bug? Any comments? Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.14-gentoo-r5, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 16 06:54:46 CET 2005 One 1.8GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 3613.01 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
Dale schreef: Neil Bothwick wrote: Because it is insecure on some mail readers and unreadable on others. Linux insecure? Never had that problem before. Everybody doesn't always read the list on Linux, or using Linux mail readers. Suppose you're reading it at work, where they use IE (on your lunch hour, of course :-) ). Or even suppose you're one of those mad persons who runs Outlook under Wine/Crossover Office (because that's what your work/clients uses to send you mail, and it's the weekend, or you're off site). Suppose you're at a hotel on a trip (business or pleasure) and downloading your mail to a USB stick, which is inserted into a Windows PC, because that's what the hotel uses, and when you get home that stick will be connected to a mixed Windows/Linux network, from which any viruses that may have been in the mail will be able to propagate through the network, unless you have a clean room to protect the network while you make sure that the USB stick is clean and safe. It's a big world out there. Expand your thinking to encompass it :-) . Unreadable I may can get though. I use Mozilla-mail so I am a new fuddy duddy. :-) I can get HTML or text only just the same. Actually mine shows up as HTML even though it is sent as text only. This, :-) , shows up as a smiley when I get the post back. That does not mean that the mail is showing up as HTML. That conversion from a text smiley to a graphical smiley is a feature of the Mozilla mail readers (MozMail and Thunderbird); it converts the smileys it knows to graphics. It doesn't know all of them-- this.-- :-P -- will not show up as a graphic. I can assure you that this is the case (although you may well be displaying mail as HTML), because I have my mail set to display all mail as Plain Text (even if it's HTML; check View=Display Message as (sorry, on my desktop it's in Dutch, so that may not be exact)-- you can choose between Original HTML, Simple HTML and Plain Text and I have Plain Text chosen), and I still get the smileys as graphics (because I have that set as well; check Preferences=General=Plain Text Messages=Show emoticons as graphics). Trust me, I've been using Mozilla-based browsers and mail a long time, long before they were Mozilla (since the days there was only Netscape). You may well be displaying HTML mail (since that's probably the default), but that is unrelated to the smileys (since you can have them as graphics under plain text display as well). The thing about unreadable more likely refers to those who use command-line mail clients like mutt or pine, because they like them, or because they run a box without X (and just because you don't have X doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to read and respond to your mail-- this is Linux, after all). But as I understand it, HTML mail in a command-line mail reader dispays all the HTML tags-- and if you've ever tried to read the source of an HTML page, you know that trying to read *just* the text amongst the tags is a fast way to a severe headache. We're all volunteers here; not many are willing to risk a migraine just to determine the text of your question amidst completely unnecessary HTML tags. It's a big world out there. People have very different needs and use Gentoo in very different ways, but they come here anyway to help each other out. It's only decent to make that as easy as possible for them (especially when you're asking strangers for help), and the first step is not assuming that everyone is just like you (generic you)-- meaning, using X, on a desktop, on a client (as opposed to a server), working on a local machine (as opposed to ssl-ing into a remote machine), or have broadband and lots of disk space (so the size of HTML mail plus possible embedded fonts[!!] is not relevant). All we're interested in is the text of one's question anyway; there's no reason to send anything more than that, and doing so ensures that everyone who might be able to answer can easily read and understand what your problem is. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] RFC about kooka block
On 12/19/05, Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka in *... ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.0-r3 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka) aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kooka These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3 [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 [ebuild N] kde-base/libkscan-3.4.3 [ebuild N] kde-base/kooka-3.4.3 Ok, so you are not accepting ~x86 for the split KDE ebuilds...i.e, no kde-base/kooka ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords... but, for example: aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kde-base/superkaramba These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies...done! [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdeutils-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0) [ebuild N] kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0 aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba in *... ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.0 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba) Yes, you cannot install both the split ebuilds (kde-base/superkaramba) and the monolithic ebuilds (kde-base/kdeutils) at the same time. Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is already installed? No, you installed it as part of the monolithic build of kdegraphics, not as a split build. Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split ebuilds :-) Is this a bug? Any comments? No, not a bug. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
jangar schreef: hi Oh, I forgot to say hi to jangar :-o (That's me, you'll get used to it, hopefully ;-) ). Hi, jangar! Nice to meet you. Welcome in! Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:17:46 -0600, Dale wrote: Because it is insecure on some mail readers and unreadable on others. Linux insecure? Never had that problem before. Leaving aside the fact that many people are forced to use Outlook at work, HTML can contain CGI scripts disguised as images, cookies etc. While these may not harm your computer, they can be used to collect some information about you. For this reason, many people disable or restrict the display of HTML in e-mail. -- Neil Bothwick i *DId* rEaD tHE DoCS; ThaT'S WHy I'm conFuSeD! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] RFC about kooka block
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 11:50, Francesco Talamona wrote: Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is already installed? Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split ebuilds :-) Is this a bug? Any comments? Ciao Francesco You do seem to be confusing monlithic kde builds with split ones. From 3.5, superkaramba is built with kdeutils so you can either keep the installed version, and install the kdeutils *compenents* seperately, or uninstall it and build the whole of *kdeutils* in one go. As far as kooka is concerned, you obviously haven't yet unmasked the 3.5 version. -- Very few profundities can be expressed in less than 80 characters. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
On Monday 19 December 2005 22:58, Holly Bostick wrote: That does not mean that the mail is showing up as HTML. That conversion from a text smiley to a graphical smiley is a feature of the Mozilla mail readers (MozMail and Thunderbird); it converts the smileys it knows to graphics. It doesn't know all of them-- this.-- :-P -- will not show up as a graphic. It does in kmail. So neh-neh-ne-ne-nehh, my mail client is better than yours. etc. The thing about unreadable more likely refers to those who use command-line mail clients like mutt or pine, because they like them, or because they run a box without X (and just because you don't have X doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to read and respond to your mail-- this is Linux, after all). Actually most console based mail clients can read html mail without needing X. Not to demean any of the other (excellent) arguments against html mail, but sometimes people do insist on sending it :( So in mutt, you would include the directive: auto_view text/html And have an entry like this in your /etc/mailcap or ~/.mailcap - text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html You can see all sorts of obnoxious mail attachments this way, such as msword via catdoc, and so forth. Ben -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] RFC about kooka block
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:50:56 +0100, Francesco Talamona wrote: aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka in *... ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.0-r3 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka) aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kooka These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3 [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3 [ebuild N] kde-base/libkscan-3.4.3 [ebuild N] kde-base/kooka-3.4.3 You are trying to install version 3.4.3 of kooka, do you have the split or monolithic ebuilds installed for 3.4.3? ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -p kooka will show you that kooka-3.5.0 is blocked by kdegraphics-3.5.0 but, for example: aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kde-base/superkaramba These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies...done! [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdeutils-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0) [ebuild N] kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0 Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is already installed? superkaramba moved into kdeutils for KDE 3.5, which is why you are seeing that block, it is already installed. kooka-3.4.3 apparently is not. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 00A: Promotional literature overflow - Mailbox full signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:31 PM, kashani wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? if you are going to open up ports on your router, I would STRONGLY suggest you go ahead and set up some iptables rules on your server. Just 16+ years of sysadmin paranoia talking What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and now it does. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.espersunited.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.espersunited.com. 10800 IN CNAME bullet.espersunited.com. bullet.espersunited.com. 10800 IN A 192.168.1.2 kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] data base program
Is there any program for makeing data bases as fast as ms access (works fast, small) and free as openbase? On OpenBase process of opening a wizard for form took more than 8 minutes!! I've got only 128 MB of ram. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Willie Wong wrote: Something is wrong on my end then. Can I have your USE flags for firefox, the version you are running, and what Javascript options you are using (i.e. from the Firefox preferences or about:config)? W - equery uses mozilla-firefox [ Searching for packages matching mozilla-firefox... ] [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend: Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ] [ : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ] [ Found these USE variables for www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r4 ] U I - - gnome : Adds GNOME support + + java: Adds support for Java - - mozdevelop : Enable features for web developers (e.g. Venkman) - - mozsvg : Enable SVG support in mozilla and firefox - - mozcalendar : Enable mozilla calendar extension, http://mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ - - debug : Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects vary across packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES=nostrip too - - gnome : Adds GNOME support + + ipv6: Adds support for IP version 6 - - moznoxft: Disable XFT support in mozilla (also firefox, thunderbird) + + truetype: Adds support for FreeType and/or FreeType2 fonts - - xinerama: Add support for the xinerama X11 extension, which allows you to stretch your display across multiple monitors - - xprint : Support for xprint, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xprint/ From edit-preferences-Web Features, I have Enable Javascript checked and under the Advanced option, I have Disable or replace conte... and Change Images checked. I'm running mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r4. John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
On Monday 19 December 2005 17:24, capsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] data base program': Is there any program for makeing data bases as fast as ms access (works fast, small) and free as openbase? Access sucks as a database. Eventually, you'll want to use a real database like mysql, postgres, oracle, db2, or sybase. My personal recommendation is postgres, at least until you've outgrown it, and then db2. On OpenBase process of opening a wizard for form took more than 8 minutes!! I've got only 128 MB of ram. When you say OpenBase, do you mean Base from OpenOffice.org 2? If not, I suggest trying it out. I never have but I've heard it supposed to replace Access. In any case, you might try mysql + DBDesigner. I think DBDesigner is supposed to have support for other DBs, but I didn't figure that much out about it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 14:31 -0800, kashani wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and now it does. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.espersunited.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.espersunited.com. 10800 IN CNAME bullet.espersunited.com. bullet.espersunited.com. 10800 IN A 192.168.1.2 kashani The address of espersunited.com should have been 24.117.226.93. The address of 192.168.1.2 for bullet.espersunited.com the internal address of bullet. The external address should have been 24.117.226.93, and I still can't telnet 24.117.226.93 port 53 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 17:23 -0600, John Jolet wrote: On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:31 PM, kashani wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that computers outside my network can't see it. I've opened up port 53 on my router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't. I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know. How can I find what's causing this? if you are going to open up ports on your router, I would STRONGLY suggest you go ahead and set up some iptables rules on your server. Just 16+ years of sysadmin paranoia talking What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and now it does. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.espersunited.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.espersunited.com. 10800 IN CNAME bullet.espersunited.com. bullet.espersunited.com. 10800 IN A 192.168.1.2 kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list The router provides my firewall. I already have ports open for sshd, www, smtp, ftp, pop3, and imap. Why would I need another firewall on the PC itself? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
On 2005-12-20 00:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any program for makeing data bases as fast as ms access (works fast, small) and free as openbase? I am not familiar with OpenBase, but Kexi and OpenOffice.org Base come to mind as general-purpose alternatives to Microsoft Access. -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * pgpz4jskvDmAB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/init.d/net.lo lots of output ..ack
darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As best I can tell, what is happening here is that the net.lo script checks all the modules in /lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d. These scripts are all the different ways you can get a net connection, and the one used in any particular instance is decided by /etc/conf.d/net (again...as best as I can tell). In your case, it would seem the net.lo script is trying _all_ of them. So: are you absolutely sure you net conf file is written properly? root # egrep -v '^(#|$)' /etc/conf.d/net config_eth1=( 192.168.0.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.0.255 ) routes_eth1=( default gw 192.168.0.20 ) Those are the correct parameters, and the ones that have worked for mnths although the format changed a few updates back. So I think those settings are not the problem It is preventing most services from starting by way of the normal channels although they can be started without problems by hand and using the flags found in /etc/conf.d. Can you elaborate here? Do you mean that if you try: /etc/init.d/ntpd start it fails but if you use: /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start /etc/init.d/ntpd start it works? No It is preventing most services from starting by way of the normal channels `It' being the cause of the blob of output I posted. `Normal channels' being the init scripts like happens on bootup or when root calls /etc/init.d/NAME start/stop/status Those methods fail after invoking the blob of ouput. although they can be started without problems by hand and using the flags found in /etc/conf.d. `by hand' being: If root looks up the appropriate flags found in /etc/conf.d/NAME, and then starts NAME with: # NAME $AppropriateFlags It works like: # ntpd -u ntp:ntp ntpd starts and runs normally # sendmail -bd -q30m -L sm-mta # sendmail -Ac -q30m -L sm-cm Sendmail starts and runs fine No crazy output. Do you have a net connection when you try this? What is the status of eth0? I am wondering why it tries to start eth1 here instead of eth0... The ones listed above yes, but only because I ifconfiged one up. The normal bootup call to init scripts failed. If eth0 is already up, eth0 isn't a player in my working network for now although I do use it occasionally. I have 2 nics, only one in use. It happens to be seen as eth1 so that is what I use in /etc/conf.d/net and a net connection is present then ntpd should be satisfied, and not try to run another net.* script. I'm not sure what you are talking about here. As I stated, the bootup init calls failed. I've shown ntpd output as a matter of example but only after having built the network by hand with ifconfig and route. Not by `/etc/init.d/NAME start'. (Again, that fails) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
