[gentoo-user] CFLAGS for AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-34
Hello, I have just bought Acer Aspire 5020 laptop. Which cfalgs shold I use. TNX -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 04:46, Holly Bostick wrote: How about this, then-- :-o ? Yup, kmail knows that one too. Not to disrespect your mad cli skills, but that's a lot of additon there. Is the 'average' mutt user going to want to do all that? I am really asking, since I don't know anything about what the 'average' mutt user might want to do or be capable of doing under 'average' circumstances, simply by virtue of being a person who uses and enjoys mutt (which is on my list of apps to try one day). Mutt is an amazing mail client, I heartily recommend it. Given that mutt is a console based mail app, the average user seems to be relatively open to hacking the various config options to get it working the way they want it. There's a huge amount of resources out there to help you do so, whether it be other people's .mutt files or mailcaps, or the docs, such as http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html Indeed on gentoo at least, a lot of the work is done for you, the default /etc/mailcap has some lynx entries, and the default mutt config files have the correct auto_view's. So html mail should Just Work (tm). mutt just can't be beat when you get a *lot* of mail. I use it when I ssh to my home machines, but I use it exclusively at work where I receive a lot more mail. Like a good editor, the keybindings and options can be initimidating to learn, but once you have you tend to be much more productive than with gui equivalents. Having said all that, there's nothing I know of in mutt that will convert ascii smileys into little emoticons ;) You can see all sorts of obnoxious mail attachments this way, such as msword via catdoc, and so forth. I was about to say, Why on earth would you send a Word attachment to a mailing list?, then I thought about some of the posts I've seen on MLs this past week-- somebody sent a *10MB* trace log attachment to the Wine list so I realize that I already know that there are some people so clueless that they seem almost mad. So it is apparently important to tell people not to do such things (just as it is important to instruct people not to put their cat/dog in the microwave to dry them off after a bath). True, true. But despite peoples' best efforts to the contrary, as sure as the sun will rise and set, people will still send html mail with msword attachments. Sometimes you're just going to have to suck it up and read it. Luckily with mutt and a couple of mime helpers, you can do so in plain text in one xterm without too much fuss. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] A confession
I must confess. I've been unfaithful.For a day.After thoroughly trashing my system (~x86) for the second time by uncarefully upgrading my box I decided that I'd try something less brain taxing.So I reinstalled with Kubuntu. I'm reinstalling Gentoo now ...I prefer battling with my own errors rather than someone elses.I had to fiddle repeatedly with the installation routine just to get the thing installed. It constantly refused to install on my laptop unless I used extended debugging (on the fifth attempt). Then I just wondered who decided I needed all that rubbish in my KDE installation.All rubbish installed I tried opening a mpg from the net. Totem can't handle mpg, trying Kaffeine I get No codecs installed. Looking desperately for codecs in the install tools I came up empty. So I tried the installation docs for Kubuntu - which aren't updated for the latest release. So I went to the forums to look for the solution, but being acustomed to the Gentoo forums I found them a bit confusing. OK, I thought - I'll leave that for later, so I tried playing a DVD can't find the CD-player at the location that /etc/fstab says it is mounted.So I run an installer, it is setup with the configuration decided on by Kubuntu developers, and it doesn't work out of the box. Why bother? Back to Gentoo. And battling my own errors... I think I'll run the stable branch this time though.Regards,Martin S
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files
I use kgpg which [I presume] is part of the kwallet system. So on desktop you have handy gui access and remotely because it is based on gnupg you can use text only access over shh for example :- gpg --decrypt -o ./securepass.tar.gz.gpg ./foo.tar.gz hope this helps stu ps. In extracting the file it may well create either tmp files or even the issue of the removal of the clear text file you make with it [ie. rm after use]. So it may not be the most secure way store passwords. I guess it depends upon your paranoia level for me it is good enough. On 20/12/05, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On (19/12/05 18:58), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you use KDE, KWallet can be used to store random information as well as web site passwords etc. Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The KDE Wallet system is pretty much ideally suited to storing this kind of data. I wondered what that thing was... I do run kde but for my needs what ever I end up using will have to be easily accessable from console mode or an ssh login too. Am I right in thinking kwallet requires kde to be running? If I were to simply create *.tar.gz or rar archive and then gnupgp encrypt that file, deleting source would that be problematic? What i'm using is a separate encrypted partition made with loop-eas. Just copy the key-file open the partition erase key-file first, do backup or refresh it then close. Could also be a file but there were some drawbacks. If anybody hacks this system they can't open the partition. I can see it would not be terribly handy but at the size of data I'm talking about it could be scripted and be pretty fast when I needed something. I'm thinking the biggest headache would be deleting the source after each visit. There are tools like emacs that can deal with a tar file transparently but then I've introduced another player into the scheme. What else to people have experience with? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list HTH.Rumen -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mod_php5
Qv6 wrote: Folks: I'm in the process of installing awf-cms - http://awf-cms.org. The install, however, requires mod_php5 which I cannot find with emerge. Has anyone actually installed mod_php5 on a gentoo system? TIA php5 is located under dev-lang/php, masked. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:00:06 +, Stuart Howard wrote: I use kgpg which [I presume] is part of the kwallet system. kgpg and kwallet are separate packages. kgpg is a gpg front-end, kwallet provides automatic, secure storage of passwords as was as general data. -- Neil Bothwick The computer is mightier than the pen, the sword, and usually, the programmer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:49:23 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Holly is American... so it's even more surprising GDR wow she hasn't bitten either of us LOL. I'm trying to let the thread *die*, gentlemen.! Such willpower! All in vain though :) Cheese and crackers! Pass the port! -- Neil Bothwick If weather bureaus were honest, they would call themselves non prophet organizations signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:58:57 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I right in thinking kwallet requires kde to be running? It does. If I were to simply create *.tar.gz or rar archive and then gnupgp encrypt that file, deleting source would that be problematic? It would work. I can see it would not be terribly handy but at the size of data I'm talking about it could be scripted and be pretty fast when I needed something. I'm thinking the biggest headache would be deleting the source after each visit. How about an encrypted filesystem, either on a small partition or a loop device? -- Neil Bothwick Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Urgent please - DVD Copy problem
On Monday 19 Dec 2005 18:46, Jonathan Wright wrote: John Jolet wrote: On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Paul wrote: snip don't assume it's the os...could very well be the burner. unless it's the same box and dual-boot? I've been working with burners since there was only 1x scsi cdr and the media was $25/each. There has ALWAYS been great variation in media and burner compatibility. It's a LOT better than it used to be, but still Very true - although it could be a case of Windows 'covering' over a problem, where it would continue on this disk when Linux won't (what with it's superior tools and everything ;) I have found the DVDs are very difficult to get working reliably. In fact, I've found alot write fine in the drive, but the drive has trouble reading them again, but no problems in reading normal DVDs. It may be worthwhile looking at a different batch of disks instead of a different disk - just in-case it's a bad batch. Well the disc completed ok and played ok on the computer but when I tried both of my dvd players, the picture and sound kept jumping on one and on the other the disc was not recognised. Ah well plod on with windows for this task. I could but another burner and install it in the windows box because nero will write to multiple discs. Than way I can cut down the time to produce 70 ish dvd by half. Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
How do I install sun-jdk throuth emerge? Cheers, Felipe Ribeiro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
On 12/20/05, Felipe Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I install sun-jdk throuth emerge? Cheers, Felipe Ribeiro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list emerge -f sun-jdk Follow the instructions and download the installer from the sun website. Put it in /usr/portage/distfiles and do emerge sun-jdk -- Andres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
The .bin file? On 12/20/05, Andres Becerra Sandoval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/05, Felipe Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I install sun-jdk throuth emerge? Cheers, Felipe Ribeiro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list emerge -f sun-jdk Follow the instructions and download the installer from the sun website. Put it in /usr/portage/distfiles and do emerge sun-jdk -- Andres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/init.d/net.lo lots of output ..ack
darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Apropos, does anyone know of any good documentation about the Gentoo
boot process and initscripts? Looking through all of these, it is
difficult to follow what is going on, and the initscript guide I
linked to before is a bit terse.
My sentiments too. I wasn't even able to see where all that guff got
loaded or sourced looking thru net.lo. I'm not a programmer by no
means but have written dozens even hundreds, I suppose, of shell scripts
and perl scripts though I've had no training on either.
However I get lost write away trying to follow how it all happens.
Here is an example from /etc/init.d/gpm below. It is not apparent
where any of those variables get filled with a value. I see nothing
being sourced either. Further, what scripting language uses:
ebegin
eend
I've never seen it in sh ksh bash. The three most common scripting
languages (I think). What is it?
checkconfig() {
if [ -z $MOUSEDEV ] || [ -z $MOUSE ] ; then
eerror You need to setup MOUSEDEV and MOUSE in /etc/conf.d/gpm first
return 1
fi
}
start() {
checkconfig || return 1
local params=
[ -n $RESPONSIVENESS ] params=$params -r $RESPONSIVENESS
[ -n $REPEAT_TYPE ] params=$params -R$REPEAT_TYPE
[ -n $APPEND ] params=$params $APPEND
ebegin Starting gpm
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/gpm \
-- -m ${MOUSEDEV} -t ${MOUSE} ${params}
eend ${?}
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
On 12/20/05, Felipe Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The .bin file? Yes, the .bin file -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
OpenBase is part of OpenOffice... and is really slow on my laptop. Whole OpenOffice is slow... So I'll try that GUIs for mysql. Do you know any replacement of OpenOffice for my laptop ? :) BTW. Is there a tool to convert mysql (and possible other) databases to and from ms-access *.mdb's ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/init.d/net.lo lots of output ..ack
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few things: 1. Run equery check baselayout. If it reports anything wrong in /lib/rcscripts, re-merge it. equery did show a herd of wrong mtimes. Which I'm guessing is probably normal but it also shows MAKEDEV missing. So I re-emerged it. Following re-emerge, equery now shows: root # equery check baselayout 21|tee file2 !!! /etc/rc.conf has incorrect md5sum !!! /etc/gentoo-release has wrong mtime (is 1135082266, should be 1135082250) !!! /etc/conf.d/hostname has incorrect md5sum !!! /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 has incorrect md5sum !!! /etc/conf.d/clock has incorrect md5sum !!! /etc/conf.d/domainname has incorrect md5sum sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11-r3: * 153 out of 159 files good However, it didn't help the init script problem a bit. I still see the long list of stuff and a failure trying to start stuff with: /etc/init.d/NAME start 2. Make sure that net.eth1 is a symlink to net.lo, _not_ a copy of an old script. Bingo...! It was not a symlink and was massively different. Checking backups from previous running system (before recent full reinstall) I see net.eth0 and net.eth1 both symlinked to net.lo. So renamed the current net.eth1 and symlinked a net.eth1 to net.lo. Starting services now works as expected. Thank you Mr. Fish, I'd probably never have figured this out from looking at the init process or the scripts. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Unable to start Dante SOCKS server
Hi there, I've just emerged Dante, and I'm trying to start it, but I'm getting the following error and I don't know what's causing it... proxy ~ # /etc/init.d/dante-sockd start Dec 20 15:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: socks_seteuid(): old: 0, new: 101 Dec 20 15:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: socks_reseteuid(): current: 101, new: 0 Dec 20 14:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: socks_reseteuid(): getpwuid(0): Permission denied (errno = 13) Dec 20 14:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: sockdexit(): terminating * Something is wrong with your configuration file * for more info, see: man sockd.conf Any ideas? Thanks in advance, best regards Jose
[gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Hi, My dad had raised the question recently about getting my mom, now 76,using Linux. We went down the path of looking for a new machine but decided to put it off until after Christmas. I recently started wondering about using a single computer for two separate people. Can X do this? Neither person taxes the computer at all so performance is not likely to be a big deal with them. Please don't worry too much about that. There is plenty of disk space, etc. My mom just uses Hotmail and does very little else with her old Windows ME box which she hates due to pop-ups, etc. If I added a second VGA adapter, PCI based, and specifically made sure it was something different from the NVidia he has installed, and then added a USB keyboard and mouse, whereas his current mouse and keyboard are ps/2, then could the new monitor and new keyboard mouse be linked up to create a second gdm login screen? Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
Hi, On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:45:19 +0100 capsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBase is part of OpenOffice... and is really slow on my laptop. OK, please don't try to enforce your own name... it's OpenOffice Base, not OpenBase, as you've been told... Do you know any replacement of OpenOffice for my laptop ? :) koffice, probably. Or a combination of gnumeric/abiword, possibly. BTW. Is there a tool to convert mysql (and possible other) databases to and from ms-access *.mdb's ? There's an ODBC connector for MySQL, yes. You can use mysql tables in MS Access this way. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
On 12/20/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My dad had raised the question recently about getting my mom, now 76,using Linux. We went down the path of looking for a new machine but decided to put it off until after Christmas. I recently started wondering about using a single computer for two separate people. Can X do this? Neither person taxes the computer at all so performance is not likely to be a big deal with them. Please don't worry too much about that. There is plenty of disk space, etc. My mom just uses Hotmail and does very little else with her old Windows ME box which she hates due to pop-ups, etc. If I added a second VGA adapter, PCI based, and specifically made sure it was something different from the NVidia he has installed, and then added a USB keyboard and mouse, whereas his current mouse and keyboard are ps/2, then could the new monitor and new keyboard mouse be linked up to create a second gdm login screen? Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I found in freshmeat this project: http://userful.com/products/ds But it is commercial, and based on Fedora Core. -- Andres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
On 12/20/05, Andres Becerra Sandoval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I added a second VGA adapter, PCI based, and specifically made sure it was something different from the NVidia he has installed, and then added a USB keyboard and mouse, whereas his current mouse and keyboard are ps/2, then could the new monitor and new keyboard mouse be linked up to create a second gdm login screen? Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark I found in freshmeat this project: http://userful.com/products/ds But it is commercial, and based on Fedora Core. -- Andres Interesting. Thanks. While not the right solution it does raise the issue of sound for the second environment. That's important also. Fortunately I feel more capable of solving that one myself. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A confession
That's what you get for trying to abandon Gentoo... LoL. Robin On 12/20/05, Martin S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must confess. I've been unfaithful. For a day. After thoroughly trashing my system (~x86) for the second time by uncarefully upgrading my box I decided that I'd try something less brain taxing. So I reinstalled with Kubuntu. I'm reinstalling Gentoo now ... I prefer battling with my own errors rather than someone elses. I had to fiddle repeatedly with the installation routine just to get the thing installed. It constantly refused to install on my laptop unless I used extended debugging (on the fifth attempt). Then I just wondered who decided I needed all that rubbish in my KDE installation. All rubbish installed I tried opening a mpg from the net. Totem can't handle mpg, trying Kaffeine I get No codecs installed. Looking desperately for codecs in the install tools I came up empty. So I tried the installation docs for Kubuntu - which aren't updated for the latest release. So I went to the forums to look for the solution, but being acustomed to the Gentoo forums I found them a bit confusing. OK, I thought - I'll leave that for later, so I tried playing a DVD can't find the CD-player at the location that /etc/fstab says it is mounted. So I run an installer, it is setup with the configuration decided on by Kubuntu developers, and it doesn't work out of the box. Why bother? Back to Gentoo. And battling my own errors... I think I'll run the stable branch this time though. Regards, Martin S -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:42:00 +0100, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: OK, please don't try to enforce your own name... it's OpenOffice Base, not OpenBase, as you've been told... If you're going to be pedantic, it is OpenOffice.org Base. -- Neil Bothwick I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] What i'm using is a separate encrypted partition made with loop-eas. Just copy the key-file open the partition erase key-file first, do backup or refresh it then close. Could also be a file but there were some drawbacks. If anybody hacks this system they can't open the partition. This looks like what I'm after thanks [...] Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use kgpg which [I presume] is part of the kwallet system. So on desktop you have handy gui access and remotely because it is based on gnupg you can use text only access over shh for example :- gpg --decrypt -o ./securepass.tar.gz.gpg ./foo.tar.gz Thanks.. that will be handy for knowing the syntax [...] Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about an encrypted filesystem, either on a small partition or a loop device? Yeah, and Rumen has pointed out something that eases that and its in portage ... it was misspelled so anyone else wanting it look for: sys-fs/loop-aes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A confession
Martin S [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I recently did something similar only never got past thining I might do it I too had gotten my OS pretty unstable by not really understanding how keywording etc worked. I still don't really fully get it but I came back thinking I'd stay with stable. Back to Gentoo. And battling my own errors... I think I'll run the stable branch this time though. What had happened to cause you to need to reinstall? For me it was running: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -vuD world Not realizing the repercussions, like that all dependancies would be unmasked too. That eventuall got me into a pretty big mess. When I reinstalled gentoo my plan was to stay with stable like you. However I soon scrapped that too. Kde is about to jump to kde-3.5 being stable I think and when I went to install kde it wanted to install kde-3.4.3 meaning I'd soon be grinding through all of kde again. Posters have argued that compiling kde is really so bad but I still think its really a time waster. Trying to unmask stuff soon turned into a pita although it can be done. I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in /etc/make.conf and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. I doubt that above would be seen as very good plan by many though. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
On 12/20/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/05, Andres Becerra Sandoval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I added a second VGA adapter, PCI based, and specifically made sure it was something different from the NVidia he has installed, and then added a USB keyboard and mouse, whereas his current mouse and keyboard are ps/2, then could the new monitor and new keyboard mouse be linked up to create a second gdm login screen? Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark I found in freshmeat this project: http://userful.com/products/ds But it is commercial, and based on Fedora Core. -- Andres Interesting. Thanks. While not the right solution it does raise the issue of sound for the second environment. That's important also. Fortunately I feel more capable of solving that one myself. Cheers, Mark Seems possible from this thread on the AMD64 list: http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/14-Multiseat-X-Under-X11R6.97.0.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, My dad had raised the question recently about getting my mom, now 76,using Linux. We went down the path of looking for a new machine but decided to put it off until after Christmas. I recently started wondering about using a single computer for two separate people. Can X do this? Can you get an older computer to use as a thin client? This link is to a distribution for a school to use one pretty good computer and a bunch of dumb terminals. You might be able to adapt the description of what it does to gentoo rather than the distro(s) it is based upon. http://www.k12ltsp.org/ -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession
Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 15:56 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in /etc/make.conf and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. I doubt that above would be seen as very good plan by many though. Why not? I do run ~x86 on several machines now for over a year, with only minor problems. Of course, you'll run into bugs (mostly compilation problems) from time to time, but that doesn't matter so much (at least for me). I usually file a bug (if not already done by someone else), mask that package version and wait until the bug is fixed. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpkO9N013VJI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
On 12/20/05, Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, My dad had raised the question recently about getting my mom, now 76,using Linux. We went down the path of looking for a new machine but decided to put it off until after Christmas. I recently started wondering about using a single computer for two separate people. Can X do this? Can you get an older computer to use as a thin client? This link is to a distribution for a school to use one pretty good computer and a bunch of dumb terminals. You might be able to adapt the description of what it does to gentoo rather than the distro(s) it is based upon. http://www.k12ltsp.org/ -- Phil I'm sure that's possible. I could even use her current Win ME box in some sort of dual boot config I suppose. However the reason I didn't start with that idea is that I am not there to hand hold her. If she's running Gnome how do I ensure that everything is saved on the main machine and not the thin client. I fear that this whole path, while certainly possible, might cause me too much work. Please remember this is a 75 year old lady who has never used Linux. ;-) thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in /etc/make.conf and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. I doubt that above would be seen as very good plan by many though. I guess this depends on your reasons for going ~x86. If it is to avoid compiling, well, that is a bad reason, because ~x86 packages are updated much more frequently than the stable ebuilds. This is the nature of testing ebuilds...find a bug, fix the bug, release a new -rX. Not every ~x86 ebuild makes it to stable. On the other hand, I run ~x86 as I consider it my duty as a Gentoo user. Testing the builds on my system is my (relatively small) way of contributing something back. It is the same reason that I now at least boot every -rc kernel. Of course, I make frequent backups! On those rare instances where I do find a bug, I report it, hopefully with enough information to get it fixed. Usually it has already been reported by someone else though. But I say if you learn to use /etc/portage/package.mask appropriately, and are willing to do the testing, then do it. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A confession
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not? I do run ~x86 on several machines now for over a year, with only minor problems. Of course, you'll run into bugs (mostly compilation problems) from time to time, but that doesn't matter so much (at least for me). I usually file a bug (if not already done by someone else), mask that package version and wait until the bug is fixed. That is good to know, I had the notion in the back of my mind it would cause serous grief somewhere. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/init.d/net.lo lots of output ..ack
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an example from /etc/init.d/gpm below. It is not apparent where any of those variables get filled with a value. I see nothing being sourced either. Further, what scripting language uses: ebegin eend A major feature of every language worth knowing is the ability to write functions. ebegin and eend are exactly that, functions (or procedures if you like) written in bash. In the case of ebegin/eend, these are defined in /etc/init.d/functions.sh. All of the init scripts are executed by /sbin/runscript (see the first line of gpm). Now, this is where you would need to look at the source for baselayout, since /sbin/runscript is a binary executable, but the only thing that you really need to know is that /sbin/runscript runs /sbin/runscript.sh, which is just a bash script. It is this script which sources functions.sh and takes care of starting (via svc_start()) or stopping (via svc_stop()) the init script. I'm not sure what else /sbin/runscript does, as I haven't looked at the source for that. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:56:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in /etc/make.conf and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. I doubt that above would be seen as very good plan by many though. I'd say it is a good plan. Most of the reported problems with testing packages seem to be from people running mixed stable/testing systems. Running all testing avoids some of the problems of a mixed system, lets you try the new software sooner and gives you opportunity to give something back to Gentoo by reporting any bugs you find. If everyone ran stable, how stable would it be with no testing? -- Neil Bothwick Help! I've fallen and I can't get down! - James Brown signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to start Dante SOCKS server
2005/12/20, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On (20/12/05 13:59), Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: Hi there, I've just emerged Dante, and I'm trying to start it, but I'm getting the following error and I don't know what's causing it... proxy ~ # /etc/init.d/dante-sockd start Dec 20 15:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: socks_seteuid(): old: 0, new: 101 Dec 20 15:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: socks_reseteuid(): current: 101, new: 0 Dec 20 14:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: socks_reseteuid(): getpwuid(0): Permission denied (errno = 13) Dec 20 14:01:20 (1135087280) sockd[0]: sockdexit(): terminating* Something is wrong with your configuration file * for more info, see: man sockd.conf Any ideas? Thanks in advance, best regards JoseHi,Seems it wants to run as user ID 101, so check your config files, whatever they are. Run grep 101 /etc/passwd to see which user it wants to be, or change the config.No experience with 'dante' though. The user with id 101 is indeed the sockd user: proxy ~ # grep 101 /etc/passwd sockd:x:101:2:added by portage for dante:/etc/socks:/bin/false So I guess it must be doing something with that user that can't be done... Thanks for your help, best regards Jose
[gentoo-user] selinux how to boot with enforce=1
Hi, can SELinux be booted properly if /selinux/enforce=1? Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elwood@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i'm new of list
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:04:42 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:05:09 -0600, Dale wrote: | Then add in that most block emails that have HTML in it so they | will not see what you post anyway. I'm not sure why they block HTML | but I was told they do. | | Because it is insecure on some mail readers and unreadable on others. Or, because any HTML email is either spam or written by a moron. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you with my brain) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] selinux how to boot with enforce=1
On (20/12/05 16:56), Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, can SELinux be booted properly if /selinux/enforce=1? Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elwood@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Think (not sure) that you can, after properly configuring your programs. Only some changes/settings are done in permissive mode. Have some experience with grsecurity RSBAC, the latter also have such mode - softmode (permissive in SELinux). Better post on: gentoo-hardened ML. HTH.Rumen pgpi05I0zq9WH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
Mark Knecht wrote: I'm sure that's possible. I could even use her current Win ME box in some sort of dual boot config I suppose. However the reason I didn't start with that idea is that I am not there to hand hold her. If she's running Gnome how do I ensure that everything is saved on the main machine and not the thin client. I fear that this whole path, while certainly possible, might cause me too much work. Please remember this is a 75 year old lady who has never used Linux. ;-) I haven't actually set anything up like this, but I was talking to the local person at the computer lab and suggested it, but they decided to stay with the dark side and all it's problems. I understand that all the info is saved on the big computer as (IIRC) the thin clients were diskless, I believe. It has been a few years since I first investigated this project. Sorry I can't help more. -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A confession
051220 Martin S wrote: I must confess. I've been unfaithful For a day. After thoroughly trashing my system (~x86) for the second time by uncarefully upgrading I decided to try something less brain taxing. So I reinstalled with Kubuntu. -- details snipped -- Yes, a short turn with another distro soon reminds how good Gentoo is. A couple of weeks ago, I wanted to update the OS in my back-up machine, which had Mandrake 10.0 (early 2004) working adequately when needed is too slow infrequently used to install Gentoo. The latest Mandrake 2006 CD 1 refused to boot, so I had to make a diskette, then the installer couldn't figure out my 2001 graphics card, then finally when I tried to boot the installed system all I got was a lot of colored lines across the screen. How about Kubuntu? -- I don't like Gnome, so didn't want Ubuntu -- , so I got the CD, installed booted the system. First, I wanted to set up ADSL, but the window fell off the bottom of the screen I couldn't see the sysadmin privileges button hidden down there; when I tried to get sysprivs via CLI, it refused to recognise the password: (K)ubuntu has a mickey-mouse simplification which abolishes root does everything with the user's own password, but of course the tiny handful of Kubuntu developers have screwed it up. The 2001 graphics card has a bug which prevents text showing on screen before X is started, so I couldn't install Slackware. Finally, I managed to get Mandrake 2005 = 10.2 from their mirrors got it installed, tho' I had to use the diskette again to start installing. I'm reinstalling Gentoo now ... I prefer battling with my own errors rather than someone elses. Exactly ! Back up often, try to understand what you're doing, incl ~x86, but if you do wreck your system, the best bet by far is re-installing Gentoo. And let's tell the devs how much we appreciate their donated time. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bug report.
Where Do I do a bug report I received this a moment ago when I run emerge --sync. Updating Portage cache: 88%!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild. !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/x11-6.8) don´t know where to post it -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge kdegraphics issue
Zac Medico zmedico at gmail.com writes: James wrote: [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r2 I guess the second query show me that using the new use flags this package needs to recompile. But it fails when I try: snip grep: /usr/lib/libungif.la: No such file or directory Is /usr/lib/libungif.la really not there? Try emerge media-libs/libungif. Zac I have the same symptoms. In my case there is a reason that libungiif.la is missing from my system. It is blocked by another gif library. # emerge --pretend media-libs/libungif These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] media-libs/giflib (is blocking media-libs/libungif-4.1.3) [ebuild N] media-libs/libungif-4.1.3 I unmerged giflib and emerged libungif in order to fix the original symptom reported by James. This was successful. Should kdegraphics depend on libungif to eliminate this problem? The BitPit -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
I've done this, but i still ger the same message mustang felipe # emerge sun-jdk Calculating dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy sun-jdk have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.06 (masked by: package.mask) # [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Lotsa things in the tree don't compile with 1.5 yet # 1.5 defaults too -target 1.5 making downgrading to a 1.4(/1.3) # impossible, see bug #69970 and bug 65937 for more information/discussion # http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Java_FAQ - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.05 (masked by: package.mask) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.3.1.16 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.2.2.017 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 (masked by: -* keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. On 12/20/05, Andres Becerra Sandoval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/05, Felipe Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The .bin file? Yes, the .bin file -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug report.
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 15:22 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Where Do I do a bug report I received this a moment ago when I run emerge --sync. Updating Portage cache: 88%!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild. !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/x11-6.8) don´t know where to post it Bug reports go to http://bugs.gentoo.org This, however, is a known bug - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114798 The problem is that you have an older portage that needs to be updated. #emerge --av portage #emerge --sync Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A confession
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the good comments as usual Richard. But I can't resist this: I guess this depends on your reasons for going ~x86. If it is to avoid compiling, well, that is a bad reason, I'd rather set my hair on fire than compile kde, and I'm bald : ) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] dash char - not minus/hyphen - how to?
Hi! Very stupid question: how to enter a dash char in OOo/AbiWord/KWord/...? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug report.
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 15:22 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Where Do I do a bug report I received this a moment ago when I run emerge --sync. Updating Portage cache: 88%!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild. !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/x11-6.8) I have a typo in my previous response. The commands to update should be: # emerge -av portage # emerge --sync Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug report.
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Where Do I do a bug report I received this a moment ago when I run emerge --sync. Updating Portage cache: 88%!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild. !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/x11-6.8) don´t know where to post it -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux http://bugs.gentoo.org/ That should be a good place. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kernel config available from /proc
I've diddled around with the .config file in /usr/src/linux so much with going thru fake menuconfig, renaming and etc that I'm not sure anymore what I have running. I'm pretty sure I selected to have access to kernel config from running kernel but now can't remember where or how to access it. I believe it was somewhere under /proc. Running find with such things as -iname '*config*' or -iname '*kernel*' hasn't tured up anthing interesting. If I am running a kernel with that option set how is the config accessed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug report.
thanks All On 12/20/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: Where Do I do a bug report I received this a moment ago when I run emerge --sync. Updating Portage cache: 88%!!! Cannot resolve a virtual package name to an ebuild. !!! This is a bug, please report it. (virtual/x11-6.8) don´t know where to post it -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux http://bugs.gentoo.org/ That should be a good place. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
Felipe Ribeiro wrote: I've done this, but i still ger the same message mustang felipe # emerge sun-jdk Calculating dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy sun-jdk have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.06 (masked by: package.mask) # [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Lotsa things in the tree don't compile with 1.5 yet # 1.5 defaults too -target 1.5 making downgrading to a 1.4(/1.3) # impossible, see bug #69970 and bug 65937 for more information/discussion # http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Java_FAQ - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.05 (masked by: package.mask) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.3.1.16 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.2.2.017 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 (masked by: -* keyword) [cut] Add dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5 to /etc/portage/package.unmask i.e. # echo dev-java/sun-jdk /etc/portage/package.unmask -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A confession
Philip Webb wrote: Yes, a short turn with another distro soon reminds how good Gentoo is. A couple of weeks ago, I wanted to update the OS in my back-up machine, which had Mandrake 10.0 (early 2004) working adequately when needed is too slow infrequently used to install Gentoo. [snip] How about Kubuntu? -- I don't like Gnome, so didn't want Ubuntu -- , so I got the CD, installed booted the system. First, [snip] A little off topic, but I'm also a non-Gnome guy and I have had pretty good luck with the free version of Xandros on a P3 450 machine that I really only care about browsing the web, listening to audio, or playing simple games on. I don't know how politically incorrect Xandros is, but it seems to work pretty well. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel config available from /proc
Hi, On (20/12/05 12:37), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've diddled around with the .config file in /usr/src/linux so much with going thru fake menuconfig, renaming and etc that I'm not sure anymore what I have running. I'm pretty sure I selected to have access to kernel config from running kernel but now can't remember where or how to access it. I believe it was somewhere under /proc. Check with: zcat /proc/config.gz. But this will work only if this option was activated in kernel. Running find with such things as -iname '*config*' or -iname '*kernel*' hasn't tured up anthing interesting. If I am running a kernel with that option set how is the config accessed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list HTH.Rumen pgpVlASxA8w7C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] dash char - not minus/hyphen - how to?
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! Very stupid question: how to enter a dash char in OOo/AbiWord/KWord/...? In OpenOffice: Insert Special Character... Look for the character that you want (long dash?). And in AbiWord press Ctrl+M to open the Insert Symbol dialog. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel config available from /proc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've diddled around with the .config file in /usr/src/linux so much with going thru fake menuconfig, renaming and etc that I'm not sure anymore what I have running. I'm pretty sure I selected to have access to kernel config from running kernel but now can't remember where or how to access it. I believe it was somewhere under /proc. Running find with such things as -iname '*config*' or -iname '*kernel*' hasn't tured up anthing interesting. If I am running a kernel with that option set how is the config accessed? /proc/config.gz That one? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
Felipe Ribeiro wrote: I've done this, but i still ger the same message # echo dev-java/sun-jdk /etc/portage/package.unmask cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession
Neil Bothwick wrote: Most of the reported problems with testing packages seem to be from people running mixed stable/testing systems. Just a hunch, or do you keep numbers? If everyone ran stable, how stable would it be with no testing? If everyone ran either full stable or full testing, how are problems that occur when one the testing packages makes it to stable going to be detected? By the ones running stable. :( So, mixed systems are just as needed as ones at full testing, if not more so. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
Luis Ortiz wrote: [cut] Add dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5 to /etc/portage/package.unmask i.e. # echo dev-java/sun-jdk /etc/portage/package.unmask I wonder if he has something in package.mask? I have 1.4.2.10 installed and nothing in my package.* files. Have you done a emerge sync lately? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Generic 2 monitor/2 keyboard question
On 12/20/05, Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I'm sure that's possible. I could even use her current Win ME box in some sort of dual boot config I suppose. However the reason I didn't start with that idea is that I am not there to hand hold her. If she's running Gnome how do I ensure that everything is saved on the main machine and not the thin client. I fear that this whole path, while certainly possible, might cause me too much work. Please remember this is a 75 year old lady who has never used Linux. ;-) I haven't actually set anything up like this, but I was talking to the local person at the computer lab and suggested it, but they decided to stay with the dark side and all it's problems. I understand that all the info is saved on the big computer as (IIRC) the thin clients were diskless, I believe. It has been a few years since I first investigated this project. Sorry I can't help more. Don't be sorry. It is helpful. It's an intersting project and a real possibility. I'm just not sure my remote sys admin capabilities are up to the task. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] private files
John J. Foster wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 12:41:51PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What options are out there? My personal favorite is app-crypt/gnupg Aye, I keep website user info and passwords in text files with the contents encrypted with GNUPG. Each website gets its own text file. The big advantage is that backup is dead easy, and since the files are plain text you could even print them out to hard copy for backups. In addition, the files are only decrypted long enough for me to get at the information (typically to copy-paste a password into a web form). The main trick with GNUPG is to securely store your private key and keyphrase, and make sure that you have backup copies of the private keys in offsite locations. I've also used GNUPG to encrypt backup tar files using a dedicated public key as they get written to a backup device. (Rather CPU intensive.) That way, restoration requires use of the private key to restore the file. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] dash char - not minus/hyphen - how to?
Peter, Luis, thanks! Luis, you are right: I'm saying about simbol which looks like long dash (U+2014 or U+2015 - they looks the same). I have got a (sorry) ms word document for editing, and this char is used for a straight speech. On those platform there is a combination like Ctrl+Alt+something for the char. It is very unhandy to use a char table for inserting a frequently used char. Is there any hints? OOo using is preferable. === On Tuesday 20 December 2005 22:15, Peter Ruskin wrote: === .. Use KCharSelect (kde-base/kcharselect). -- Peter === On Tuesday 20 December 2005 22:04, Luis Ortiz wrote: === ... In OpenOffice: Insert Special Character... Look for the character that you want (long dash?). And in AbiWord press Ctrl+M to open the Insert Symbol dialog. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
Felipe Ribeiro wrote: I've done this, but i still ger the same message mustang felipe # emerge sun-jdk Calculating dependencies !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy sun-jdk have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.06 (masked by: package.mask) # [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Lotsa things in the tree don't compile with 1.5 yet # 1.5 defaults too -target 1.5 making downgrading to a 1.4(/1.3) # impossible, see bug #69970 and bug 65937 for more information/discussion # http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Java_FAQ - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.05 (masked by: package.mask) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.3.1.16 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.2.2.017 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.09 (masked by: -* keyword) - dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 (masked by: -* keyword) From the looks of it, you are on amd64. You can use blackdown-jdk out of the box with emerge virtual/jdk. =sun-jdk-1.5* is the only version that works on amd64 but it is still package.masked. You should not be unmasking packages if you don't know what you are doing. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I install sun-jdk through emerge?
Antoine wrote: Felipe Ribeiro wrote: I've done this, but i still ger the same message # echo dev-java/sun-jdk /etc/portage/package.unmask cheers Antoine Please don't advice people to just put stuff to package.unmask without providing some additional information. Packages are in package.mask for a reason after all. Just unmasking packages can break your system in so many ways and you have to be prepared to fix it when it happens. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel config available from /proc
There's a file in /proc - a *.gz if I remember. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/20 Tue PM 01:37:46 EST To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Kernel config available from /proc I've diddled around with the .config file in /usr/src/linux so much with going thru fake menuconfig, renaming and etc that I'm not sure anymore what I have running. I'm pretty sure I selected to have access to kernel config from running kernel but now can't remember where or how to access it. I believe it was somewhere under /proc. Running find with such things as -iname '*config*' or -iname '*kernel*' hasn't tured up anthing interesting. If I am running a kernel with that option set how is the config accessed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
Here is a little trick you can use on google when looking for converters.. Put the file extension of the file you want to convert in front of the number 2. Like this: mdb2, and if you know the file extension of the target, add that AFTER the 2. Like this: mdb2mysql or mdb2sql. This is not always going to work, but try it anyways and look at the 1st result in google. These will both bring up hits for what you are lookin for, but try mdb2mysql first as it's more descriptive. Most GPL'd converters will use this type of format (rpm2tgz comes to mine hehe). But there are some commercial apps that have caught on and named their apps in that same naming convention. http://www.enobis.com/sw/mdb2mysql/ capsel wrote: OpenBase is part of OpenOffice... and is really slow on my laptop. Whole OpenOffice is slow... So I'll try that GUIs for mysql. Do you know any replacement of OpenOffice for my laptop ? :) BTW. Is there a tool to convert mysql (and possible other) databases to and from ms-access *.mdb's ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in /etc/make.conf and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. I doubt that above would be seen as very good plan by many though. On the other hand, I run ~x86 as I consider it my duty as a Gentoo user. Testing the builds on my system is my (relatively small) way of contributing something back. It is the same reason that I now at least boot every -rc kernel. Of course, I make frequent backups! On those rare instances where I do find a bug, I report it, hopefully with enough information to get it fixed. Usually it has already been reported by someone else though. But I say if you learn to use /etc/portage/package.mask appropriately, and are willing to do the testing, then do it. -Richard I enjoy testing as well and thats my main reason for keeping a ~x86 system. However, I don't think its wise for people unfamiliar with (or have no interest in) bugs.gentoo, overlays and to a lesser degree writing/fixing ebuilds to go full ~x86. I've been ~x86 for about a week and I've had to a) pull ebuilds/patches from bugs.gentoo (and also filed a couple), b) moved a couple apps in overlay and c) fix old custom ebuilds in overlay for unsupported software (ex. OpenCV, xfce4 svn). Also making extensive use of package.mask since as mentioned before, some ~x86 have radical changes that might bork your system until you downgrade. Chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Posting to mail list through knode
Holas, Before I did something (the big question), I could post to the gentoo-users list through knode. I still get all the messages through kmail, but it's so much easier to follow threads through knode. How can I post to the list through knode? What did I un-do to stop this? Thanks. Peter -- Marticus There's too much blood in my caffeine system. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel config available from /proc
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe it was somewhere under /proc. Check with: zcat /proc/config.gz. But this will work only if this option was activated in kernel. Haa ...yup thats it. But find /proc -iname '*config*' should have turned that up so I must have been asleep at the switch. Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] dash char - not minus/hyphen - how to?
Aha... 'man xmodmap'... It works! Peter, thanks! === On Wednesday 21 December 2005 00:22, Peter Ruskin wrote: === ... I use .Xmodmap and type the emdash with Shift+AltGr+bracketright: keycode 35 = bracketright braceright rightarrow emdash I have this line in my ~/.bashrc: [ $DISPLAY != ] xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap -- Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Shouldn't grub setup overwrite lilo in MBR
I thought I'd try once more to get grub working in my prefered resolution. I've been able to get what I want with lilo right along. I just assumed grub would overwrite lilo code in the MBR but I'm finding it does not. It cripples lilo boot so that it doesn't work but I still get the dreaded ..`Li..' hang on boot. Just for the record, shouldn't grub setup (hd0,0) overwrite any other code in MBR? If it does not what does it mean? Grub would show a failure if it did not find /boot/grub and the files under there when setup is run so it seems to succeed. I'm sure lilo is aimed at hda as well and can see it in lilo.conf, further if it were running from another parition it wouldn't get crippled from running grub against hda... right? So I guess I need to zero out the mbr somehow. I faintly remember some dd syntax involving 0 (zero) but can't find it now to refresh my memory. dd if=/?? of=?? -b 512? with the right stuff in there can clean the mbr right? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shouldn't grub setup overwrite lilo in MBR
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 17:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Shouldn't grub setup overwrite lilo in MBR': Just for the record, shouldn't grub setup (hd0,0) overwrite any other code in MBR? If it does not what does it mean? It think you really mean just (hd0). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/domainname not resolving correctly?
This may seem like a petty issue but I've been unable to locate a solution to it. After the finishes booting, it displays the contents of /etc/issue. In it's default configuration, the result of this file after booting is: This is ts.(none) My question is: What do I have to do to replace (none) with the domainname configured in /etc/conf.d/domainname? (I need to keep this in a standard format as I've got several servers I manage that reside in different domains; hence, I can't just type in the domainname to resolve this problem.) Thanks in advance for your help. Tom -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] More on mbr
How can I get a real eyes on look at what is in the MBR. I'm trying this: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 Running strings on the result shows a litte of it: strings mbr.img LILO LILOu)^h `UUfP fPYX I thought maybe it could be mounted so: mkdir mbr mount -o loop mbr.img mbr But mount wants to know what `type' filesystem it is. I tried a few things but really didn't expect them to work like: ext2 msdos minix iso9660 None worked of course. So can this be done? Any one know what should be in there exactly and how to view it? What this is all about is that I'm not succeding in overwriting the lilo code mbr by running `grub setup' The grub command succeeds but when I attempt to boot I still get a crippled lilo response. By crippled I mean the dread: Li . . . .Hang forever -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/domainname not resolving correctly?
My question is: What do I have to do to replace (none) with the domainname configured in /etc/conf.d/domainname? (I need to keep this in a standard format as I've got several servers I manage that reside in different domains; hence, I can't just type in the domainname to resolve this problem.) Put the FQDN of your computer into /etc/hosts. For example: 127.0.0.1localhost 192.168.1.12 ts.mydomain ts And that should do it... -James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 5:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What this is all about is that I'm not succeding in overwriting the lilo code mbr by running `grub setup' The grub command succeeds but when I attempt to boot I still get a crippled lilo response. By crippled I mean the dread: Li . . . . Hang forever I know no way of viewing mbr. I've heard of lilo not being able to overwrite grub, but never vice-versa. Perhaps it would help if you post your exact grub install command. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
read the reply to your other thread. you installed grub on the first partition, not on the mbr. quite likely this over-wrote something essential to lilo. you can now boot with a boot cd and chroot into your environmment (similar to what you did when installing). From there you can fix either grub or lilo and all should be sweet. On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:45:00 -0600 reader wrote: How can I get a real eyes on look at what is in the MBR. I'm trying this: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 Running strings on the result shows a litte of it: strings mbr.img LILO LILOu)^h `UUfP fPYX I thought maybe it could be mounted so: mkdir mbr mount -o loop mbr.img mbr But mount wants to know what `type' filesystem it is. I tried a few things but really didn't expect them to work like: ext2 msdos minix iso9660 None worked of course. So can this be done? Any one know what should be in there exactly and how to view it? What this is all about is that I'm not succeding in overwriting the lilo code mbr by running `grub setup' The grub command succeeds but when I attempt to boot I still get a crippled lilo response. By crippled I mean the dread: Li . . . .Hang forever -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 17:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] More on mbr': How can I get a real eyes on look at what is in the MBR. I'm trying this: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 I thought maybe it could be mounted so: Just how much of a filesystem do you think you can fit in 512 bytes? (Hint: this email is probably more than 512 bytes.) Any one know what should be in there exactly and how to view it? Have you tries using od or a hex editor? The mbr is mostly binary data used by the bios to locate the right disk offset, read it into memory and start executing it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:59:56 -0600 Joe Menola wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2005 5:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What this is all about is that I'm not succeding in overwriting the lilo code mbr by running `grub setup' The grub command succeeds but when I attempt to boot I still get a crippled lilo response. By crippled I mean the dread: Li . . . . Hang forever I know no way of viewing mbr. I've heard of lilo not being able to overwrite grub, but never vice-versa. Perhaps it would help if you post your exact grub install command. He has unfortunatle started two threads and the answer is staring him in the face in the reply posted to the other thread. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
It may be easier to just remove lilo with lilo -U If you cant get the machine to boot so that you can type that, just use a live cd like Knoppix or PCLinuxOS, then make symlinks so that lilo would run. IE: mv etc etc.old ln -s /mnt/etc /etc mv boot boot.old ln -s /mnt/boot /boot then just type lilo -U and it should remove the boot stuff and grub MAY load. I've never actually tried it, but I think in theory it looks good hehe. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I get a real eyes on look at what is in the MBR. I'm trying this: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 Running strings on the result shows a litte of it: strings mbr.img LILO LILOu)^h `UUfP fPYX I thought maybe it could be mounted so: mkdir mbr mount -o loop mbr.img mbr But mount wants to know what `type' filesystem it is. I tried a few things but really didn't expect them to work like: ext2 msdos minix iso9660 None worked of course. So can this be done? Any one know what should be in there exactly and how to view it? What this is all about is that I'm not succeding in overwriting the lilo code mbr by running `grub setup' The grub command succeeds but when I attempt to boot I still get a crippled lilo response. By crippled I mean the dread: Li . . . .Hang forever -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I get a real eyes on look at what is in the MBR. I'm trying this: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 Running strings on the result shows a litte of it: There are two things in the MBR: the partition table, and the boot code. The boot code is going to be in machine code, probably built from assembler, so you will not be able to get anything sane from it without an x86 processor manual nearby. The grub command succeeds but when I attempt to boot I still get a crippled lilo response. By crippled I mean the dread: Li . . . .Hang forever Google is your friend: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/a1483.html Although, I think the description is not very clear. What this really means is that the mbr code was able to load the hard disk sectors that it was told contain the stage2 (the larger and more intelligent 'program' that knows about filesystems and consoles and menus and the like.), but the result wasn't executable. How are you installing grub? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shouldn't grub setup overwrite lilo in MBR
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I'd try once more to get grub working in my prefered resolution. I've been able to get what I want with lilo right along. I just assumed grub would overwrite lilo code in the MBR but I'm finding it does not. It cripples lilo boot so that it doesn't work but I still get the dreaded ..`Li..' hang on boot. Just for the record, shouldn't grub setup (hd0,0) overwrite any other code in MBR? If it does not what does it mean? No, it says to install the boot code into the first partition of the disk, not the mbr. This would be useful if you use a microsoft mbr (fdisk /mbr, or fixboot from a recovery console), which looks for the 'active' partition to determine which OS to load. You want setup (hd0) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More on mbr
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 03:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I get a real eyes on look at what is in the MBR. I'm trying this: dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.img bs=512 count=1 I thought maybe it could be mounted so: mkdir mbr mount -o loop mbr.img mbr But mount wants to know what `type' filesystem it is. I tried a few things but really didn't expect them to work like: ext2 msdos minix iso9660 None worked of course. So can this be done? Any one know what should be in there exactly and how to view it? The MBR isn't a partition itself, it merely stores the partition information. As I understand it (and if somebody else has better info, or I've got things backward, please correct me), the MBR is the first 512 bytes of the disk. The first 446 bytes of it is the bootstrap loader code itself - the actual workhorse that starts the system up to load the OS. The rest of it (66 bytes) is the core partition information for the disk. Overwriting this part of it will wipe out your partition table - not something you want to do. The book Linux Desktop Hacks has a section just on saving, fixing and restoring the MBR. Rather than using bs=512, you'll want to use bs=446 when overwriting the MBR (if you had a backup, and want to do it by hand), or use a tool like grub-install (the Gentoo Handbook has a chapter on configuring the bootloaders - LILO or GRUB - part 1, chapter 10). Good luck. -- Eric Bliss systems design and integration, CreativeCow.Net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Slow internet connection
Dale wrote: Hi folks, I recently upgraded gcc and to KDE 3.5. I have a dial-up connection and a serial modem. I did a emerge -e system twice and a emerge -e world during the gcc upgrade. I then upgraded KDE. Since I did this my modem connection has been really slow. It connects at the same speed but it has a lot of dead time. It sends a little data, then waits a while, sends a little, waits a while etc. I am even having trouble doing a sync because it takes so long the server kicks me off. It does it on most all sites. It does it in Mozilla, Konqueror when I emerge something, whatever. It also does it if I login to my old KDE 3.4 session as well. I don't think it is KDE. It also does it when I am downloading emails from my ISP. I also did a kernel upgrade as well because one of the packages, I think it was hal or dbus, needed a newer kernel. I copied my .config over and did a make oldconfig. As far as I can tell, all my old settings are the same. I checked it with the make menuconfig of course. I have also tried to connect with Kppp and the pon and poff commands. I never did get wvdial to work. It does the same with either connection though. I did a lot of etc-updates during the upgrade. I did make a back-up of /etc though. What files should I check though? What could cause this? I'm afraid that if I copy the old /etc back over some things may break. I know one of the programs made me delete the old files because of some major changes. Seems it was hal, dbus or ivman, can't recall which though. I use iptables for my other rigs to connect to the net with. I stopped the service just to try it, not any difference. Any ideas? Let me know if you need me to post something. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) Well, I have found out this much but I need some help figuring out the rest. I booted into my old Gentoo and the modem works fine and it connects the same way, the ARQ thing. It uses the old kernel, the old hal, dbus and the old KDE. I am beginning to think this is a kernel thing but I can't back up a version because hal, dbus or one of them requires this kernel or higher and my new KDE requires the new hal, dbus, sounds like a catch 22 don't it. What can I do to make sure it is the kernel? Is it possible to back up a kernel version, the one the old Gentoo uses, and not botch up hal, dbus or something? Just to make it more clear. I have to versions of Gentoo on two seperate hard drives. I redone my install when I moved to a faster drive. Thanks Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Shouldn't grub setup overwrite lilo in MBR
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, it says to install the boot code into the first partition of the disk, not the mbr. This would be useful if you use a microsoft mbr (fdisk /mbr, or fixboot from a recovery console), which looks for the 'active' partition to determine which OS to load. You want setup (hd0) Egad... I new that once upon a time. Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: More on mbr
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He has unfortunatle started two threads and the answer is staring him in the face in the reply posted to the other thread. Er sorry about the double whammy. And for the other posters info in this thread... I'm not having trouble booting or any of that. I know how to fix this to get running... that is livecd, chroot edit lilo.conf rerun lilo, boot. What was puzzling me was that grub seemingly would not overwrite MBR. Somehow I got sidetracked onto (hd0,0) even though I know better. Thanks to Richard FIsh and posters in this thread I now understand what was going on. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] problems compiling sid plugin for xmms
XMMS-SID Version is: media-plugins/xmms-sid-0.7.4 Libsidplay version is: media-libs/libsidplay-2.1.1 Compiling xmms-sid yields this error: xmms-sid.cc: In function `void* xs_play_loop(void*)': xmms-sid.cc:199: error: using typedef-name `AFormat' after `enum' xmms-sid.cc:199: error: invalid type in declaration before '=' token xmms-sid.cc:208: error: invalid conversion from `int' to `AFormat' xmms-sid.cc:237: error: invalid conversion from `int' to `AFormat' make[1]: *** [xmms-sid.lo] Fejl 1 make[1]: *** Venter på uafsluttede job xs_fileinfo.cc:50: warning: unused parameter 'widget' xs_fileinfo.cc:50: warning: unused parameter 'data' c++: -lstdc++: linker input file unused because linking not done make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/xmms-sid-0.7.4/work/xmms-sid-0.7.4/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Fejl 1 Anybody in here familiar with sid-playback in xmms? -Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
