[gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Mark M. Hart








Im trying to install/run MOL, and Im running
into trouble. I havent yet found a howto document, so Im not
getting anywhere very fast.



When I try to invoke startmol, Im told that I need to
run molvconfig. Unfortunately, however, emerge mol doesnt create a
molvconfig command.



I tried downloading the tarball and doing the install manually,
but it errors out in the end and doesnt build molvconfig before it dies.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Mark M. Hart








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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Nicolas Mainil

On 5/6/06, Mark M. Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I'm trying to install/run MOL, and I'm running into trouble.  I haven't yet
found a howto document, so I'm not getting anywhere very fast.



When I try to invoke startmol, I'm told that I need to run molvconfig.
Unfortunately, however, emerge mol doesn't create a molvconfig command.


What version of mol do you run? I'm running mol-0.9.71_pre8 and
molvconfig is present (/usr/bin/molvconfig)

By the way I don't know which version of MacOS you want to run but if
you want to run OSX the proper command is : 'startmol -X'

Nicolas





I tried downloading the tarball and doing the install manually, but it
errors out in the end and doesn't build molvconfig before it dies.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Mark M. Hart


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RE: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Mark M. Hart
I enabled fbcon use flag and re-emerged mol.  I ran molvconfig and set up a
ton of video modes.  

When I try to do startmol (from within X/Kde and without) I get a black
screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left.  Anything I type gets
echoed to the screen but that's it.

Thanks!
 
Mark M. Hart

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Mark M. Hart wrote:
 I?m trying to install/run MOL, and I?m running into trouble.  I haven?t
 yet found a howto document, so I?m not getting anywhere very fast.
 
 When I try to invoke startmol, I?m told that I need to run molvconfig. 
 Unfortunately, however, emerge mol doesn?t create a molvconfig command.
 
 I tried downloading the tarball and doing the install manually, but it
 errors out in the end and doesn?t build molvconfig before it dies.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Mark M. Hart
 

molvconfig is only available when you enable the fbcon use flag since
it's only appropriate when you're using MOL fullscreen on a virtual
terminal.  If you don't want to use MOL this way, make sure you turn off
the virtual terminal switching in /etc/mol/molrc.video.  If you do want
to use MOL on a virtual terminal (recommended since it's faster)
re-emerge MOL with the fbcon use flag set.

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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Joseph Jezak
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Mark M. Hart wrote:
 I enabled fbcon use flag and re-emerged mol.  I ran molvconfig and set up a
 ton of video modes.  
 
 When I try to do startmol (from within X/Kde and without) I get a black
 screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left.  Anything I type gets
 echoed to the screen but that's it.
 
 Thanks!
  
 Mark M. Hart

You didn't say what you were trying to run (OS9/OSX) but if you're
running OSX, you need to use startmol -X.  It defaults to OS9 if you
just type startmol (as it says in the startmol man page).

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RE: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Mark M. Hart
I'm trying to run OS 9.

Thanks!
 
Mark M. Hart


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Mark M. Hart wrote:
 I enabled fbcon use flag and re-emerged mol.  I ran molvconfig and set up
a
 ton of video modes.  
 
 When I try to do startmol (from within X/Kde and without) I get a black
 screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left.  Anything I type gets
 echoed to the screen but that's it.
 
 Thanks!
  
 Mark M. Hart

You didn't say what you were trying to run (OS9/OSX) but if you're
running OSX, you need to use startmol -X.  It defaults to OS9 if you
just type startmol (as it says in the startmol man page).

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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Joseph Jezak
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Mark M. Hart wrote:
 I'm trying to run OS 9.
 
 Thanks!
  
 Mark M. Hart

If the OS9 install is on the same partition as OSX, that won't work.
Barring that, you've probably neglected to configure something in
/etc/mol.  What do the debugging messages say when you run startmol?  If
you're doing it from a console, it should print some info.  When it
switches to the blinking cursor, it's switched to another console, but
MOL hasn't started.  You should be able to switch back with the normal
console switch keys.

Just for when you get that fixed, you'll also need to make sure that the
sheep module is built (USE=sheep) when using OS9, it won't run
otherwise.  Which kernel are you using?

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RE: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Mark M. Hart

I'm using 2.6.15-gentoo-r1.

I am sure that something is printing out before the screen goes blank, but
the only key combo I can use to get out of the blank screen is ctrl-alt-del,
which switches me to runlevel 6 and reboots the system.

I'll try starting mol and redirecting the output to a file, maybe it'll
capture something useful.

Thanks!
 
Mark M. Hart

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Mark M. Hart wrote:
 I'm trying to run OS 9.
 
 Thanks!
  
 Mark M. Hart

If the OS9 install is on the same partition as OSX, that won't work.
Barring that, you've probably neglected to configure something in
/etc/mol.  What do the debugging messages say when you run startmol?  If
you're doing it from a console, it should print some info.  When it
switches to the blinking cursor, it's switched to another console, but
MOL hasn't started.  You should be able to switch back with the normal
console switch keys.

Just for when you get that fixed, you'll also need to make sure that the
sheep module is built (USE=sheep) when using OS9, it won't run
otherwise.  Which kernel are you using?

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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Mac on Linux?

2006-05-06 Thread Joseph Jezak
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Mark M. Hart wrote:
 I'm using 2.6.15-gentoo-r1.
 
 I am sure that something is printing out before the screen goes blank, but
 the only key combo I can use to get out of the blank screen is ctrl-alt-del,
 which switches me to runlevel 6 and reboots the system.
 
 I'll try starting mol and redirecting the output to a file, maybe it'll
 capture something useful.
 
 Thanks!
  
 Mark M. Hart

Try alt + fn + f1 - f6, those should switch virtual terminals, if that
doesn't work try without the fn as well.  If you still can't get it, try
ssh'ing in and starting mol from that console.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-(

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Mick wrote:

On 05/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What model?  You throw OpenWRT on it, if possible, and then all your
documentation is then online. :)  FWIW, Most linksys models automatically
(layer-3) bridge 802.11a/b/g and all wired connections exception for
the 'WAN' port, so you should be able to see each other unless on is using
the WAN (but then your Internet would probably be having problems, too.)


Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?


The OpenWRT page has an extensive list of supported hardware.

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[gentoo-user] Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Ow Mun Heng
Hi guys,

Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that.
Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows.
Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux.

Anyone??

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: partition resizing question

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 May 2006 18:38, Leigh Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: partition resizing question':
 im concerned
 that some data, configuration etc may depend on or expect to be locate
 at a certain physical location on disk...

The only thing that should depend on that is lilo.

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OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 May 2006 18:05, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Waay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to 
ask. :-(':
 On 05/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What model?  You throw OpenWRT on it, if possible, and then all your
  documentation is then online. :)  FWIW, Most linksys models
  automatically (layer-3) bridge 802.11a/b/g and all wired connections
  exception for the 'WAN' port, so you should be able to see each other
  unless on is using the WAN (but then your Internet would probably be
  having problems, too.)

 Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?

Some, to various degrees:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware

I've never tried it because I only own a old Linksys WRT54G.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling portage after an Tcupdate

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
If this comes through twice, I apologize.  KMail crashed on me while I was 
composing it.

On Friday 05 May 2006 08:40, Thiago Lüttig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Error compiling portage after an Tcupdate':
 Hi, I'm trying compile the portage (2.0.54.1-r1) after made an tcupdate
 -t. The tcupdate seems to run ok, except the last compile of the
 portage. When i try to run emerge portage, i get this error message:

What's a tcupdate?

 gcc-config error: Could not run/locate i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 error: command 'i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1

You probably have an invalid gcc profile set.  Use gcc-config -l to get a 
list of valid profiles then gcc-config followed by the number of the 
profile you want to use.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
   Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that.
 Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows.
 Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux.
 
 Anyone??

Try wengophone (www.openwengo.org), it's in ~x86 branch of portage.. It
supports both audio and video on GNU/Linux and Windows

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Re: [gentoo-user] debugging runscript

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/4/06, Leigh Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

can anyone tell me how to trace through init scripts, which are
executed by /sbin/runscript?


Add set -x near the top of the script, but after the first line.

#!/sbin/runscript
set -x
...

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WengPhone : Re: [gentoo-user] Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 13:01 +0530, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
  Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that.
  Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows.
  Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux.
  
  Anyone??
 
 Try wengophone (www.openwengo.org), it's in ~x86 branch of portage.. It
 supports both audio and video on GNU/Linux and Windows
 
it's not building properly

== Error Messages =

build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavutil/rational.h:51:
warning: `av_q2d' defined but not used
gcc -O2 -march=pentium3 -pipe -falign-functions=64 -mmmx -msse -msse2
-Wall -O3 -Wno-switch -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H= -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64
-D_GNU_SOURCE= -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE=
-Ibuild-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavu
til -Ibuild-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg -c -o
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavcodec/msmpeg4.os
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavcodec/msmpeg4.c
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavcodec/msmpeg4.c: In
function `msmpeg4_pred_dc':
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavcodec/msmpeg4.c:729:
error: can't find a register in class `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading
`asm'
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavcodec/wmv2.c: At top
level:
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavutil/rational.h:41:
warning: `av_cmp_q' defined but not used
build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavutil/rational.h:51:
warning: `av_q2d' defined but not used
scons: ***
[build-wengo/linux2-release-symbols/libs/ffmpeg/libavcodec/msmpeg4.os]
Error 1


=

Recompiling ffmpeg now.

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[gentoo-user] Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

Hi All,

Suddenly lynx is being pulled in - it never used to before yesterday:
===
# emerge -upDtv world

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] sys-power/hibernate-script-1.12-r1 [1.12] +logrotate 0 kB
[ebuild U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8 [2.6.0-r6] +acl -build -ipv6
-static -xinetd 754 kB
[ebuild U ] media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.76-r3 [0.99.76] +alsa
+audiofile -doc -esd +flac -jack +mikmod -nas +nls +ogg +opengl +oss
+vorbis -xosd 0 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-power/cpufrequtils-001 [0.4] -debug +nls 34 kB
[nomerge  ] net-print/foomatic-3.0.2
[ebuild  N]  net-print/foomatic-db-20050910  +cups +ppds 6,969 kB
[ebuild U ] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r5 [0.99.4-r3] +X +aalib
+curl -libcaca -lirc +ncurses +nls +readline -vdr -xinerama 16 kB
[nomerge  ] app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14  -tetex
[ebuild  N]  www-client/lynx-2.8.5-r2  -ipv6 +nls +ssl 2,131 kB

Total size of downloads: 9,905 kB
===

As I am using links2 I don't need lynx (aren't they basically the
same?).  How can I get rid of it - or shouldn't I?
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Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 not up when init script returns?

2006-05-06 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Hani,
on Thursday, 2006-05-04 at 11:19:33, you wrote:
 Have you looked through the '/etc/conf.d/net.example' file?  I'm not too
 familiar with DHCP, but the net.example file has this entry:

As Uwe said, that's not the issue. It's a server box, the one
responsible for dealing out the others' addresses via DHCP. eth0 has a
fixed IP.

cheers!
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Re: [gentoo-user] cd record does not record!

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

On 05/05/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


there are cleaning cds - but almost all burner manufacturers say, that you
shall not use them.


I am not surprised . . . how can a CD clean a lens unless it has a
little brush and a vacuum cleaner/degreaser attached to it?  :-)) 
Unless it tries to focus the lazer beam so as to burn any dirt off the

lens surface . . . hmm!


So you have to dismantle it. Oh, and put some fat on the tracks if you have it
open. Some old burners get dry there and stop working.


Good point, thanks!  By fat do you mean a bit of silicone grease, or
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Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 not up when init script returns?

2006-05-06 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Vladimir,
on Thursday, 2006-05-04 at 17:56:58, you wrote:
 Anyway, I figured out what my problem was. I was starting eth0 twice,
 once through an rc script, and once with ifplugd. When I zapped the rc
 script (rc-update del net.eth0), things started work better.

Still sounds like an ifplugd config problem. As I learnt from this
list a while ago, you *should* start both ifplugd and the net.eth*
scripts---it actually works better like this, e.g. auto-joining wireless
networks via ifplugd never worked until I re-added the init script for
eth1. Here's my /etc/conf.d/ifplugd:

INTERFACES=eth0 eth1
AUTO=yes
BEEP=yes
IGNORE_FAIL=yes
IGNORE_FAIL_POSITIVE=no
IGNORE_RETVAL=yes
POLL_TIME=2
DELAY_UP=0
DELAY_DOWN=0
API_MODE=auto
SHUTDOWN=no
WAIT_ON_FORK=no
MONITOR=no
ARGS=
MONITOR_eth1=yes
DELAY_UP_eth1=5
DELAY_DOWN_eth1=5

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling portage after an Tcupdate

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

On 06/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



What's a tcupdate?


It's a toolchain update script to rebuild your toolchain twice over
(i.e. rebuild your toolchain with the new toolchain)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Mick wrote:


[nomerge  ] app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14  -tetex
[ebuild  N]  www-client/lynx-2.8.5-r2  -ipv6 +nls +ssl 2,131 kB



docbook-sgml-utils pulls it in. Reason: In the ebuild, there is:

|| ( www-client/lynx www-client/elinks virtual/w3m )

So, you'd need one of lynx, elinks or w3m.

I don't know why that is. Open a bug, if you know for sure, that
links would be good as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling portage after an Tcupdate

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 06 May 2006 04:19, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling portage after an Tcupdate':
 On 06/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What's a tcupdate?

 It's a toolchain update script to rebuild your toolchain twice over
 (i.e. rebuild your toolchain with the new toolchain)

Okay, that makes me even more certain that my diagnosis is correct.  Also, 
the OP will probably want another tcupdate run after they correct their 
gcc profile issue.  (If the second run also breaks things, I'd be ready to 
blame the script itself.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

On 06/05/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


24x7.  I am not sure if this is messing it up or not.  It seems to stay
pretty warm.  I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that
in today after the first lockup.  I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and
didn't see any issues.


Laptops generally get warm/hot to the touch.  What sort of
temperatures does it show?

memetest should run overnight to get a reliable result.  I remember
reading either in this list or in the Gentoo forums why memtest is not
the best test for memory integrity.  There's a script somewhere which
will also put your memory controller under some pressure.  I'll post
back if I can find it.

Momentarily getting back the display image that was cached indicates
that your swap was not flushed, which is probably more related to the
fact that the machine crashed rather than shut down gracefully.

If as you say your video card is sharing the system memory and the
memory is suspect, then that would explain why you are getting all
these video display problems.  Does reverting back to the old memory
chip improve matters?

Some laptops (and desktops for that matter) do not take kindly to
mixing and matching memory chips.  If your memory upgrade was not
sympathetic to the laptop's idiosyncracies the problems you describe
are typical.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Boris Fersing wrote:

2006/5/6, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



docbook-sgml-utils pulls it in. Reason: In the ebuild, there is:

 || ( www-client/lynx www-client/elinks virtual/w3m )

So, you'd need one of lynx, elinks or w3m.

I don't know why that is. Open a bug, if you know for sure, that
links would be good as well.



the reason is here : https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125362


But, there we find:

|| ( www-client/lynx www-client/links virtual/w3m )

Why has links been dumped and replaced by elinks?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

On 06/05/06, Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2006/5/6, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 So, you'd need one of lynx, elinks or w3m.

 I don't know why that is. Open a bug, if you know for sure, that
 links would be good as well.


I don't really know for sure but it used to be alright just with links before.


Hi,

the reason is here : https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125362


Thanks.  I just hacked the ebuild for now until the next update to
include links virtual.
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Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

On 06/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?

Some, to various degrees:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware


Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.  When it
becomes stable I may have a go.
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[gentoo-user] Card reader weirdness

2006-05-06 Thread Thierry de Coulon
Hello,

I've got an usb multi-card reader. The device does work, however since I run 
Gentoo it behaves a little different than before. Previously the reader would 
be indentified on boot (usually reserving /dev/sda to /dev/sdd). I set up 
those drives in /etc/fstab and created devices on the desktop to mount them 
as user.

Since using Gentoo the reader apparently is not seen on boot (if no card is 
plugged in). When I plug a card in and try to mount it I get an error message 
(no such device). However, if I open a shell, fdisk the device, quit fdisk 
and close the shell, I can mount the card...

So my guess is that I am missing a small something in my setup but I can't 
find what.

Note that this is annoying, not much more :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] ltsp woes

2006-05-06 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 05 May 2006 19:57, John Blinka wrote:
 Daniel da Veiga wrote:
  How are the boxes connected to the network? A hub? A switch? Router
  maybe? Try using the network spot (where one of the failing boxes is
  connected) with a notebook or another machine that you know has no
  problems. Also check the cables and other network devices between the
  boxes and the DHCP server. I doubt a software failure would get all
  your boxes down at the same time.
 
  So, its my bet, a physical problem, but I'm not an expert.

 A reasonable bet, but I'll have to apologize for omitting some information:
 there are two rooms of terminals each connected via hub to
 the network backbone.  Both rooms have the same problem, so it's probably
 not network hardware.  I've seen this sort of problem before arise from
 ltsp software configuration, so software problems at the server can
 bring all
 the terminals down.  

Right. Somewhat besides your question: Are you really using hubs? I also seem 
to remember from your original post that the terminals are connected by 
10Mb/s which makes sense if you are using hubs. From my experience with 
server / thin client configurations, I would suggest to replace the hubs by 
switches and use 100Mb/s full duplex connections. That should boost the 
performance of your terminals by far. Anyway, this has nothing to do with 
your current problem.


 Between the time when the server was working and the 
 time it stopped working, I have probably upgraded some portion of the
 ltsp package.  I'm wondering whether I inadvertently clobbered part of the
 working configuration when I did so.

Please post your ifconfig output on the server and also the routing table.

Are you sure your server sees the dhcp requests at all? Run tcpdump on the 
appropriate interface on the server and boot just one terminal. Does the 
request come through?

Is dhcpd listening on the right interface? You mentioned a power outage. So 
some configuration could be messed up.

A power outage can also be accompanied by some power surges. That could fry 
the ethernet card in your server. Can you connect to it with a fat client? 
With dhcp? With a static IP configuration?

What happens if you plug a thin client directly into the server's ethernet 
card with a cross-over cable?

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[gentoo-user] Re: OpenWRT on Netgear

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Mick wrote:

On 06/05/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Very interesting!  Will it work with netgear routers?

Some, to various degrees:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware


Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.


What's wip? OpenWRT?

Well, it's very stable on my wrt54gs.


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[gentoo-user] qt cycling reason

2006-05-06 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
After last qt upgrading (at ~x86) 'emerge -pvDut world' out is below. Does it 
mean
qalculate-kde and kdelibs qt-dependency are incorrect in their ebuild files?

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These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[nomerge  ] sci-calculators/qalculate-kde-0.9.2  USE=arts -debug -xinerama
[nomerge  ]  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r4  USE=alsa arts cups spell ssl tiff 
-acl -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -legacyssl% -openexr 
-xinerama -zeroconf
[ebuild UD]   x11-libs/qt-3.3.6 [3.3.6-r1] USE=cups gif ipv6 mysql opengl 
sqlite -debug -doc -examples -firebird -immqt -immqt-bc -nas -nis -odbc 
-postgres -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
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[gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Mick
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 I don't really know for sure but it used to be alright just with links
 before.
 
 Yep. Used to be. And then someone discovered, that links is no
 good for this.
 
 the reason is here : https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125362
 
 Thanks.  I just hacked the ebuild for now until the next update to
 include links virtual.
 
 Well, but links doesn't work:
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104515

The mind boggles!  It seems that I'll have to emerge elinks or lynx whether
I want it or not.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cd record does not record!

2006-05-06 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 06 May 2006 11:16, Mick wrote:
 On 05/05/06, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  there are cleaning cds - but almost all burner manufacturers say, that
  you shall not use them.

 I am not surprised . . . how can a CD clean a lens unless it has a
 little brush and a vacuum cleaner/degreaser attached to it?  :-))
 Unless it tries to focus the lazer beam so as to burn any dirt off the
 lens surface . . . hmm!

  So you have to dismantle it. Oh, and put some fat on the tracks if you
  have it open. Some old burners get dry there and stop working.

 Good point, thanks!  By fat do you mean a bit of silicone grease, or
 light oil?


silicon grease.

Light oil might form small droplets, when the slide with the head moves 
around, that pollutes the lenscd.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Mick wrote:


Laptops generally get warm/hot to the touch.  What sort of
temperatures does it show?


That is one of the problems with the blasted laptop.  Speedstep and 
sensors are not working.  I don't know if it is an Intel thing or a 
Toshiba thing.  I should have gotten an AMD laptop.  My AMD64 desktop 
runs great and everything works, especially the Cool-n-Quite.  I have 
been trying to see if there is a patch for speedstep.  The laptop is 3 
months old and has a Pentium M - Sonoma:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 13
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 1729.164
cache size  : 2048 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx est tm2

bogomips: 3466.07

I looked at speedstep-centrino.c in the kernel source and added the 
Sonoma.  However it still does not work and I just get:


FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino 
(/lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r6/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): 
No such device




memetest should run overnight to get a reliable result.  I remember
reading either in this list or in the Gentoo forums why memtest is not
the best test for memory integrity.  There's a script somewhere which
will also put your memory controller under some pressure.  I'll post
back if I can find it.


I tried that.  Last night memtest got through the first 4 tests.  When 
test 5 came the screen got all garbaled, though the test kept running. 
I let the laptop cool overnight and this morning ran just test #5 and it 
completed.  I then booted to Gnome and the screen got garbaled.



If as you say your video card is sharing the system memory and the
memory is suspect, then that would explain why you are getting all
these video display problems.  Does reverting back to the old memory
chip improve matters?


Could different memory modules from different manufacturers not work 
well together, though work well alone?  I just took out the 512MB DDR2 
that came with the laptop and put just the 1GB DD2 in that  I bought and 
this is the longest it has stayed running since yesterday.



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Thanks Mick.

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[gentoo-user] Re: trouble running X clients as root

2006-05-06 Thread Simon Kellett
Tamas Sarga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I tried to reproduce it, but can't. But I dicovered, that `sux` and
 `sux -` is not the same. The help doesn't say anything about -
 parameter, but if I give `env` after `sux` and `sux -` then I found
 some differences. Maybe `sux -` worth a try for you. BTW I can start
 xterm without any error or warning with or without -.

I do not know what sux it, but it is related to su then the -
determines, IIRC whether or not to inherent the current shells
environment or to setup the new users environment. Eg from bash su -
will cause /root/.profile and .bashrc (IIRC!).

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[gentoo-user] Re: cd record does not record!

2006-05-06 Thread Simon Kellett
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am not surprised . . . how can a CD clean a lens unless it has a
 little brush and a vacuum cleaner/degreaser attached to it?  :-))

Well: yes they do have little brushes mounted into the plastic disk !
(but no vacuum or de-greaser): you way get lucky and knock an offending
fleck of dust off the lens !

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[gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Simon Kellett
Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that.
 Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows.
 Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux.

Netmeeting on Windows should be able to talk to Gnomemeeting on Linux
(the app does not *have* to be the same, just the protocols and codecs
etc.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Card reader weirdness

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Thierry de Coulon wrote:

Hello,

I've got an usb multi-card reader. The device does work, however since I run 
Gentoo it behaves a little different than before. Previously the reader would 
be indentified on boot (usually reserving /dev/sda to /dev/sdd). I set up 
those drives in /etc/fstab and created devices on the desktop to mount them 
as user.


Since using Gentoo the reader apparently is not seen on boot (if no card is 
plugged in). When I plug a card in and try to mount it I get an error message 
(no such device). However, if I open a shell, fdisk the device, quit fdisk 
and close the shell, I can mount the card...


So my guess is that I am missing a small something in my setup but I can't 
find what.


Note that this is annoying, not much more :)

Thierry



Plug the card in and try to mount it and get the error then run:

lsmod | sort  /tmp/before

Then do the fdisk thing that gets it to work and run:

lsmod | sort  /tmp/after

Now you can use vimdiff (or another diff)

vimdiff /tmp/before /tmp/after

This will show you if any module gets loaded that makes it work.  If you 
find a module in after but not in before, add it to 
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Bob Sanders wrote:

On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:13:19 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The mind boggles!  It seems that I'll have to emerge elinks or lynx whether
I want it or not.


You'll be mighty happy you have it for  that one time X won't start and you 
need to download
a fix or find one from the command line using elinks or lynx.


Uhm, and in how far are lynx or elinks better for this purpose
as links? Please advice!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 09:12:31AM -0700, Penguin Lover Bob Sanders squawked:
 On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:13:19 +
 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The mind boggles!  It seems that I'll have to emerge elinks or lynx whether
  I want it or not.
 
 You'll be mighty happy you have it for  that one time X won't start and you 
 need to download
 a fix or find one from the command line using elinks or lynx.
 

I would bet that is why the OP has links installed to begin with. 

On the other hand: I wonder why w3m can be used, but not the variant 
w3mmee? I rather enjoy its multibyte character support. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 12:52:33PM -0400, Penguin Lover Willie Wong squawked:
 On the other hand: I wonder why w3m can be used, but not the variant 
 w3mmee? I rather enjoy its multibyte character support. 

nevermind. I read the ebuild more carefully this time and saw that it
depends on 'virtual/w3m' not 'net-www/w3m'

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Graham Murray
Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You'll be mighty happy you have it for  that one time X won't start and you 
 need to download
 a fix or find one from the command line using elinks or lynx.

 I've been there way too often to not have a backup text based web browser 
 installed, for
 the once or twice each year this may occur.  But then I run several systems, 
 some have no
 graphics console, so I see the need more than most.

In such situations it is a pity the bugzilla search feature does not
seem to work (at least not for me) with any of the text mode browsers
that I have tried.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging mythtv-0.19

2006-05-06 Thread Marc Redmann
Hi,

 I'm trying to emerge mythtv but keep running into a problem with sandbox.

 Whenever I try to emerge, the compiling seems to work fine, but the
 installation fails and I get several 'Access Violations'.  It seems that
 instead of installing  into '/usr/xxx', mythtv is trying to go straight to
 '/' (ie: /bin ... /lib ... /share).

if sandbox is your only problem while istalling mythtv try 

FEATURES=-sandbox emerge mythtv

to work around your problem (actually sandbox is switched of with the above 
command).

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[gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-06 Thread wu chuanwen

Hi!
I know kde can use prelink to accelerate.
Can gnome do it?
If it can,how?I know in kde we should change the file 99kde-env in
/etc/env.d,but here i can't see any file relate gnome.

Thank you in advance!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Alexander Skwar

Graham Murray wrote:


In such situations it is a pity the bugzilla search feature does not
seem to work (at least not for me) with any of the text mode browsers
that I have tried.


Hm. I just tried (for the first time, I've got to admit) bgo
with elinks, and searching worked just fine.

elinks is built with:

[ebuild   R   ] www-client/elinks-0.11.0  USE=X bittorrent bzip2 -debug -finger ftp 
gnutls -gopher gpm -guile idn -ipv6 javascript lua nls nntp -perl -ruby samba ssl unicode 
zlib 0 kB

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[gentoo-user] XDA IIi

2006-05-06 Thread Mick

Hi All,

I just got an XDA IIi mobile phone/pda from work and was wondering
what app should I use to sync it with Kontact.  Is there a link
anywhere with instructions?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 06:12:09PM +0100, Penguin Lover Graham Murray squawked:

 In such situations it is a pity the bugzilla search feature does not
 seem to work (at least not for me) with any of the text mode browsers
 that I have tried.

you seem to not have noticed the text on the error page

It says, quote: If you are trying to use QuickSearch, you need to
enable Javascript in your browser.

Of course, what you should do is to just, when you go to b.g.o. with a
text browser, scroll down a tiny bit more (on 80x24  screen, it is the
2nd page, the 7th line) and you would see a link to Search existing
bug reports. It works with both links2 and lynx. 

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games - update

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

JimD wrote:
Ok, this is a three part question.  I am on vacation and I am using my 
wife's laptop that used to have winxp and now has Gentoo.   Starting 
today I started to get garbled video output followed by a lock-up.  I 
have been using the laptop as my dev platform and keeping it running 
24x7.  I am not sure if this is messing it up or not.  It seems to stay 
pretty warm.  I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that 
in today after the first lockup.  I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and 
didn't see any issues.


I took out the OEM 512MB DDR2 and left in just the 1GB DDR2 and things 
seem stable now.  I was able to run abuse.sdl without any lockups.


I have never had two different memory modules give me problems before.

I would have liked to have 1.5GB, but oh well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is lynx a dependency?

2006-05-06 Thread Graham Murray
Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It says, quote: If you are trying to use QuickSearch, you need to
 enable Javascript in your browser.

 Of course, what you should do is to just, when you go to b.g.o. with a
 text browser, scroll down a tiny bit more (on 80x24  screen, it is the
 2nd page, the 7th line) and you would see a link to Search existing
 bug reports. It works with both links2 and lynx. 

Thanks, you are right I saw the error about javascript but did not
notice the 'search existing bug reports' link.
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Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 06 May 2006 05:20, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waay [OT] 
Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()':
 Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.  When it
 becomes stable I may have a go.

The project is a Work In Progress only as much as Linux is a work is 
progres: there's active development.  WhiteRussian (the latest release) is 
stable as a rock and has a lot of features.

Now, the Netgear support might not be ready yet.  Maybe that's just a 
feature they they have planned for the next release (not sure if the 
Kamikaze name is like Sid in Debian [always the name of UNSTABLE] or 
not...).  Of course, you can always try Kamakaze.  I've gotten it to build 
cleanly a number of times, but never had the drive to flash it on my WRT 
it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem emerging mythtv-0.19

2006-05-06 Thread Hani Duwaik
On 5/6/06, Marc Redmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to emerge mythtv but keep running into a problem with sandbox. Whenever I try to emerge, the compiling seems to work fine, but the installation fails and I get several 'Access Violations'.It seems that
 instead of installinginto '/usr/xxx', mythtv is trying to go straight to '/' (ie: /bin ... /lib ... /share).if sandbox is your only problem while istalling mythtv tryFEATURES=-sandbox emerge mythtv
to work around your problem (actually sandbox is switched of with the abovecommand).In the past, I've gotten mythtv to install by disabling sandbox. However, the result is that all the mythtv binaries, libraries and docs get installed into '/bin', '/lib', '/share' (respectively) which is a problem when it thinks everything should be in '/usr/bin', '/usr/lib', '/usr/share'.
What I'm confused about is that it doesn't seem like anyone else is having this problem and I'm wondering if there is something I'm doing wrong.TIA,-Hani-- If, of the many truths, you select only one and follow it blindly, it will become a falsehood, and you a fanatic.


Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-06 Thread Justin Findlay

On 5/6/06, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi!
I know kde can use prelink to accelerate.
Can gnome do it?
If it can,how?I know in kde we should change the file 99kde-env in
/etc/env.d,but here i can't see any file relate gnome.


If you have prelink installed and the cron job runs successfully, then
you have all dynamically linked code on your system prelinked, not
just GNOME and KDE which you probably knew already.  What
'KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1' from /etc/env.d/99kde-env does is tell kde not to
load kdeinit, or at least that is what the prelink guide says. 
kdeinit must have some functionality that is superseded by prelinking.

I don't know if GNOME has any simmilar daemon.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 06 May 2006 10:10, Simon Kellett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App':
 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that.
  Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows.
  Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux.

 Netmeeting on Windows should be able to talk to Gnomemeeting on Linux
 (the app does not *have* to be the same, just the protocols and codecs
 etc.)

Ah, in that case there's text + video in the form of YM + USB Camera 
supported under the native windows client an kopete.  I think it was YM 
kopete was getting camera support for, maybe it was MSN?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games - update

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/6/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JimD wrote:
 Ok, this is a three part question.  I am on vacation and I am using my
 wife's laptop that used to have winxp and now has Gentoo.   Starting
 today I started to get garbled video output followed by a lock-up.  I
 have been using the laptop as my dev platform and keeping it running
 24x7.  I am not sure if this is messing it up or not.  It seems to stay
 pretty warm.  I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that
 in today after the first lockup.  I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and
 didn't see any issues.

I took out the OEM 512MB DDR2 and left in just the 1GB DDR2 and things
seem stable now.  I was able to run abuse.sdl without any lockups.

I have never had two different memory modules give me problems before.

I would have liked to have 1.5GB, but oh well.


One possibility may have to do with the memory timings of the old vs
new memory.  If the BIOS gives any manual control over the CAS, RAS,
etc timings, you might try increasing them.  I had to do this with my
AMD64 desktop system, even though the memory modules were matched. 
They just would not run stable at the rated settings...


HTH,
-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/6/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I tried that.  Last night memtest got through the first 4 tests.  When
test 5 came the screen got all garbaled, though the test kept running.
I let the laptop cool overnight and this morning ran just test #5 and it
completed.  I then booted to Gnome and the screen got garbaled.


Memtest86 is nearly useless on modern x86 platforms.  It can only tell
you if specific cells of the memory are faulty, not if there are
timing or DMA issues.  Try this one instead:

http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/6/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I looked at speedstep-centrino.c in the kernel source and added the
Sonoma.  However it still does not work and I just get:

FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino
(/lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r6/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko):
No such device


First, sorry for the duplicate replies.

Speedstep should definitely work out-of-the-box here.  My 3 mo old
Core Duo processor works great with the speedstep-centrino module. 
And my previous 6mo old laptop on Sonoma also worked great.  Maybe you

are missing some ACPI options? (ACPI processor is the big one I can
think of that you might need.)

Speaking of ACPI, you should also enable and load the 'fan' module. 
Some laptops will _not_ run the CPU fan unless this is built and

loaded!!!

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games - update

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


One possibility may have to do with the memory timings of the old vs
new memory.  If the BIOS gives any manual control over the CAS, RAS,
etc timings, you might try increasing them.  I had to do this with my
AMD64 desktop system, even though the memory modules were matched. They 
just would not run stable at the rated settings...


Toshiba replaced the real BIOS with their own crappy BIOS.  The 
options are very limited to enable/disable NIC, screen brightness, etc. 
 Nothing that would confuse your typical Winders user.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ltsp woes

2006-05-06 Thread John Blinka

Uwe Thiem wrote:

Right. Somewhat besides your question: Are you really using hubs? I also seem 
to remember from your original post that the terminals are connected by 
10Mb/s which makes sense if you are using hubs. From my experience with 
server / thin client configurations, I would suggest to replace the hubs by 
switches and use 100Mb/s full duplex connections. That should boost the 
performance of your terminals by far. Anyway, this has nothing to do with 
your current problem.
 



We originally used hubs and later moved to switches - my mistake.  But
it hasn't made much difference in performance.  Our performance bottleneck
is elsewhere.  But that's another discussion.


Please post your ifconfig output on the server and also the routing table.
   


-- ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:A5:ED:2B:AD 
 inet addr:10.88.1.5  Bcast:10.88.1.255  Mask:255.255.0.0

 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 RX packets:382228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:33183 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
 RX bytes:40956294 (39.0 Mb)  TX bytes:9529879 (9.0 Mb)

-- route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface

10.88.0.0   *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 eth0
default ws510.ltsp  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0


Are you sure your server sees the dhcp requests at all?

Yes.  The system logs are full of requests.  The ltsp server is also a 
dhcp server
for the entire campus, and all of the non-ltsp-terminal boxes are 
functioning

properly on the network.

Run tcpdump on the 
appropriate interface on the server and boot just one terminal. Does the 
request come through?
   

Can't do that right now - don't have physical access to the machines on 
the weekend

and can't boot a terminal now.

Is dhcpd listening on the right interface? You mentioned a power outage. So 
some configuration could be messed up.
   

There's only one interface, eth0.  Here's the command that started dhcpd 
- looks like it

should be listening to eth0.

-- ps aux | grep dhcp
dhcp  9009  0.0  0.0   2680  1656 ?Ss   May04   0:01 
/usr/sbin/dhcpd -q -pf /var/run/dhcp/dhcpd.pid -user dhcp -group dhcp -q 
eth0


A power outage can also be accompanied by some power surges. That could fry 
the ethernet card in your server. Can you connect to it with a fat client? 
With dhcp? With a static IP configuration?
   

It's not fried.  I can ssh from a remote location into the server, and 
the server has only one

ethernet card in it.

So, the hardware is working, and dhcpd is filling the system logs with 
stuff like


May  6 14:55:29 [dhcpd] DHCPDISCOVER from 00:a0:24:98:14:55 via eth0
May  6 14:55:30 [dhcpd] DHCPOFFER on 10.88.3.122 to 00:a0:24:98:14:55 
via eth0


which means that dhcpd is running, listening on eth0 and talking to ltsp 
terminals.
But, judging from the ltsp-terminal error messages I posted originally, 
the terminals
don't seem to think that they've made a satisfactory contact with dhcpd 
on the server.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


Speedstep should definitely work out-of-the-box here.  My 3 mo old
Core Duo processor works great with the speedstep-centrino module. And 
my previous 6mo old laptop on Sonoma also worked great.  Maybe you

are missing some ACPI options? (ACPI processor is the big one I can
think of that you might need.)

Speaking of ACPI, you should also enable and load the 'fan' module. Some 
laptops will _not_ run the CPU fan unless this is built and

loaded!!!


Did you use genkernel?  I have always built my own kernel and compile 
the minimum needed.  I may have left something out.  I will give 
genkernel a try and build almost everything.


Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

wu chuanwen wrote:

 Hi!
 I know kde can use prelink to accelerate.
 Can gnome do it?
 If it can,how?I know in kde we should change the file 99kde-env in
 /etc/env.d,but here i can't see any file relate gnome.

 Thank you in advance!

From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml:

Most common applications make use of shared libraries. These shared 
libraries need to be loaded into memory at runtime and the various 
symbol references need to be resolved. For most small programs this 
dynamic linking is very quick. But for programs written in C++ and that 
have many library dependencies, the dynamic linking can take a fair 
amount of time.


Gnome is written in C and doesn't have this issue.  Gnome startup is 
pretty fast.  If you upgrade to the latest Gnome 2.14.x, startup is 
*very* fast.  My AMD64 3200+ logs in to Gnome in only about 2 seconds 
from startx.  I am really impressed with the speed improvements in Gnome 
2.14 vs 2.12.


So to answer your question, no, it is not needed in Gnome since gnome is 
not written in C++ like KDE is.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 17:10 +0200, Simon Kellett wrote:
 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Would like to know if there's any app available which can do that.
  Gaim-VV seems to have stopped devel. Ekiga doesn't work on windows.
  Skype works.. but it's only audio on Linux.
 
 Netmeeting on Windows should be able to talk to Gnomemeeting on Linux
 (the app does not *have* to be the same, just the protocols and codecs
 etc.)

The keyword here being should

If anyone can tell me how to set it up it would be great. I've already
got an ekiga.net account signed up and I can't seem to be able to get to
call. (I think I'm not logged into the directory or something)

In ekiga i put - sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (then I press connect) to the
windows netmeeting. Doesn't work.

Under Netmeeting, I put in sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and it give me error etc.
Seems like no matter how, I can't get in.


If anyone knows how to, please do let me know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ltsp woes

2006-05-06 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 06 May 2006 20:26, John Blinka wrote:
 Uwe Thiem wrote:

 We originally used hubs and later moved to switches - my mistake.  But
 it hasn't made much difference in performance.  Our performance bottleneck
 is elsewhere.  But that's another discussion.

Alright, but I would really like to discuss this further. Maybe off-list when 
your current problem is solved.


 Please post your ifconfig output on the server and also the routing
  table.

 -- ifconfig
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:A5:ED:2B:AD
   inet addr:10.88.1.5  Bcast:10.88.1.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:382228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:33183 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:40956294 (39.0 Mb)  TX bytes:9529879 (9.0 Mb)

Your broadcast address is wrong. With that netmask, it must be 10.88.255.255.


 -- route
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 10.88.0.0   *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00
 eth0 default ws510.ltsp  0.0.0.0 UG0  0   
 0 eth0

If you have only one interface, what is that default route good for? Not that 
I can see any harm from it.

Try to correct the broadcast above. Maybe that will solve the problem already, 
although it's hard to understand how you fat clients can work with it.

If the broadcast doesn't solve it, please post your /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf as 
well.

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[gentoo-user] emerge linux-headers failed

2006-05-06 Thread Ali Tlisov

Hi!
I'v got this when attempted to emerge linux-headers:

 * gentoo-headers-2.6.11-5.tar.bz2 unpacked
 * Applying linux-2.6.12.1-blackfin.patch.patch (-p0+) ...[ ok ] * 
Applying 2.6.0-fb.patch (-p0+) ... [ ok ] * Applying 
2.6.0-sysctl_h-compat.patch (-p0+) ...  [ ok ] * 
Applying 2.6.10-generic-arm-prepare.patch (-p0+) ...   [ 
ok ] * Applying 2.6.11-appCompat.patch (-p0+) ...   [ ok ] * 
Applying 2.6.11-ppc64-Makefile.patch (-p0+) ...[ ok ] * 
Applying 2.6.8.1-soundcard-ppc64.patch (-p0+) ...  [ 
ok ] * Applying 2.6.8.1-strict-ansi-fix.patch (-p0+) ...   [ ok ]

!!! ERROR: sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2 failed.
!!! Function unpack_2_6, Line 360, Exitcode 2
!!! make defconfig failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.


I really don't know how to handle it. If anyone has any ideas or needs 
additional information, let me know please. I can't do 'emerge -uD 
world' now because it's trying to emerge that linux-headers first.


Thank you in advance,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App

2006-05-06 Thread Glenn Enright
On Sunday 07 May 2006 8:18 am, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Saturday 06 May 2006 15:05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Windows -Linux Video Chat App':
  On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 17:10 +0200, Simon Kellett wrote:
   Netmeeting on Windows should be able to talk to Gnomemeeting on Linux
   (the app does not *have* to be the same, just the protocols and codecs
   etc.)
 
  The keyword here being should

 While I'm sure we'd help you if we could, this is a very general gentoo
 list and not many of us will have even tried to do what you are doing.  I
 think you'd be better served by asking on the netmeeting newsgroups or the
 gnome(meeting)/ekiga support areas (mailing list, newsgroup, IRC, w/e they
 have).

Also check out kopete if you run KDE. it has a plugin for the old netmeeting 
protocol too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] national keyboard in open office

2006-05-06 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 05 May 2006 17:30, Pawel K wrote:
 Hello
 How to force open office to type national (Polish)
 fonts. I can see them on the screen when opening the
 document containing them but when I press the
 combination right alt-char it doesn't work. I've
 installed open office as english(USA) version and
 itshould stay like that. I want to be able to type
 Polish characters only.

What is the output of

# locale

and

# locale -a

Not all locales will support those characters. You can read more on locales at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml .

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[gentoo-user] OT - Anyone recommend a good puzzle app?

2006-05-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
My wife likes to do puzzles.  I was wondering if there were any
puzzle-type apps available in portage that would allow her to use her
own images?

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[gentoo-user] OT - MythTV problem: Every channel is Disney channel

2006-05-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
ATM I am running kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r1.  I have built 2.6.16-gentoo-r3
and -r6, but do not use them because when I use MythTV, and try to flip
through channels, every channel is the Disney Channel.  My wife and I
love Disney, but sometimes we want to record shows that are not on
Disney.  I've remerged ivtv for each new kernel, but 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 is
the only one that gives me access to all channels.  I don't even know
where to start with this one.  Any help?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/6/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Did you use genkernel?


Nope, never have.

If you like, I can email you the relevant global, power management,
and processor parts of my .config.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Anyone recommend a good puzzle app?

2006-05-06 Thread Philip Webb
060506 Michael Sullivan wrote:
 My wife likes to do puzzles.  Are there were any puzzle-type apps
 available in portage that would allow her to use her own images?

Look in  /usr/portage/games-puzzle/  for a list of apps,
then use 'eix puzzle-name' to see what they do  an URL for further info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Anyone recommend a good puzzle app?

2006-05-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 10:26:40PM +, Penguin Lover Michael Sullivan 
squawked:
 My wife likes to do puzzles.  I was wondering if there were any
 puzzle-type apps available in portage that would allow her to use her
 own images?
 

Can you clarify? What kind of puzzles? Do you mean jigsaw? Or puzzles
in the general sense of the category games-puzzle in portage?

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Re: OpenWRT on Netgear (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Waaaaaay [OT] Windoze back-up. Sorry to ask. :-()

2006-05-06 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 10:20:00AM +, Mick wrote:
 
 Thanks, I've had a look and it seems to be work-in-progress.  When it
 becomes stable I may have a go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Anyone recommend a good puzzle app?

2006-05-06 Thread Phil Sexton

Philip Webb wrote:

060506 Michael Sullivan wrote:


My wife likes to do puzzles.  Are there were any puzzle-type apps
available in portage that would allow her to use her own images?



Look in  /usr/portage/games-puzzle/  for a list of apps,
then use 'eix puzzle-name' to see what they do  an URL for further info.



I like:
esearch --fullname --verbose games-puzzle | less

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


Nope, never have.

If you like, I can email you the relevant global, power management,
and processor parts of my .config.


Please send the .config, that could come in handy.  I am probably just 
leaving out something.


Thanks for the help,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Anyone recommend a good puzzle app?

2006-05-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 20:17 -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 10:26:40PM +, Penguin Lover Michael Sullivan 
 squawked:
  My wife likes to do puzzles.  I was wondering if there were any
  puzzle-type apps available in portage that would allow her to use her
  own images?
  
 
 Can you clarify? What kind of puzzles? Do you mean jigsaw? Or puzzles
 in the general sense of the category games-puzzle in portage?
 
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I meant jigsaw puzzles.  I didn't remember what they were called.  I
worked through about half the /usr/portage/games-puzzle directory with
eix before I sent my original post and didn't see anything that sounded
oven close to what I wanted except maybe kiki, and the description
didn't say if it was jigsaw or not...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Anyone recommend a good puzzle app?

2006-05-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 07:38:26PM -0500, Penguin Lover Michael Sullivan 
squawked:
 I meant jigsaw puzzles.  I didn't remember what they were called.  I
 worked through about half the /usr/portage/games-puzzle directory with
 eix before I sent my original post and didn't see anything that sounded
 oven close to what I wanted except maybe kiki, and the description
 didn't say if it was jigsaw or not...

kiki is definitely NOT a jigsaw puzzle. 

i vaguely remember seeing a jigsaw generator in portage some time ago,
but upon checking packages.gentoo.org, I can't seem to find it. 

If you don't mind running a bit of KDE software, you can try kpuzzle
  http://kpuzzle.sourceforge.net/
It is not in portage, but shouldn't be too hard to get running. 

Checking Freshmeat, there's this thing called Alive Jigsaw, though I
am not sure if it allows you to use your own images.
  http://freshmeat.net/projects/alivejigsaw/
There's also http://freshmeat.net/projects/jigsaw_php_js/ which builds
jigsaws from images in a folder, probably not the ideal thing based on
its design.

There's also xjig (google on that) which is available for Debian at
least; as well as OpenJigsaw http://marijn.haverbeke.nl/jigsaw/ 

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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-06 Thread The Slash
On Sunday April 30 2006 16:50, David Morgan wrote:
 On 02:04 Mon 01 May , Farhan Ahmed wrote:
  Jeff Rollin wrote:
   I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG.
   And it improves the speed of KDE applications too
 
  Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
  documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable
  results came up when i googled it..

 $cat example.c
 #include stdio.h

 #ifdef FISH
   #define A 1
 #endif

 int main()
 {
 if (A == 1)
   printf(fish!\n);
 }

 $ gcc -DFISH example.c -o example
 $ ./example
 fish!

 $ gcc example.c -o example
 example.c: In function ‘main’:
 example.c:9: error: ‘A’ undeclared (first use in this function)
 example.c:9: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
 example.c:9: error: for each function it appears in.)

 (a fairly contrived example, I know)

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Interesting... I'm still a little bit paranoid about adding this to make.conf, 
though. Can anybody think of a reason why I wouldn't want to add it?

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[gentoo-user] eth0 corrupted after power cut off when emerged world

2006-05-06 Thread wu chuanwen

I just emerge --update --deep --newuse world and suddenly the power
is cut off.
Then,when i start my gentoo again,my network can't work now.
The error message is :

 Starting  eth0
ls:*.sh:No such file or directory.
 *   no interface module has been loaded.
 *starting lo.
  /lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d/iproute2.sh does not exist
ERROR:Problem starting needed service net.lo
netmount was not started.


Is there anybody know what is matter?

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[gentoo-user] How do I create /dev/ieee1394/dv/host0/PAL/out so I can write back to tape with Kino

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Watson
Hi – Can anyone tell me how to create /dev/ieee1394/dv/host0/PAL/out so I
can write back to DV tape on my video camera with Kino? I assume it’s some
form of mknod command but I don’t really understand the syntax. It's not
currently listed in my /dev.
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Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 corrupted after power cut off when emerged world

2006-05-06 Thread Norberto Bensa
wu chuanwen wrote:
/lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d/iproute2.sh does not exist
 ERROR:Problem starting needed service net.lo
  netmount was not started.

 
 Is there anybody know what is matter?

Your initscripts got corrupted. I got a similar corruption on my firewall a 
few days ago. Just emerge baselayout. Bring up your IP manually if you need 
to.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 corrupted after power cut off when emerged world

2006-05-06 Thread Teresa and Dale
wu chuanwen wrote:

 I just emerge --update --deep --newuse world and suddenly the power
 is cut off.
 Then,when i start my gentoo again,my network can't work now.
 The error message is :
 
  Starting  eth0
 ls:*.sh:No such file or directory.
  *   no interface module has been loaded.
  *starting lo.
   /lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d/iproute2.sh does not exist
 ERROR:Problem starting needed service net.lo
 netmount was not started.

 
 Is there anybody know what is matter?

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This should help:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery belongs iproute2
 [ Searching for file(s) iproute2 in *... ]
 sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.14-r8 (/lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d/iproute2)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


Re-emerge baselayout and see if that helps.  That is the package that
the file belongs to.  I'm not sure that one had anything to do with the
other but anything is possible.

Hope that helps.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

2006-05-06 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/3/06, The Slash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Interesting... I'm still a little bit paranoid about adding this to make.conf,
though. Can anybody think of a reason why I wouldn't want to add it?


Um, yes, as I have said twice in this thread
alreadyG_DISABLE_DEBUG DOESNT DO ANYTHING

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Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 corrupted after power cut off when emerged world

2006-05-06 Thread Norberto Bensa
wu chuanwen wrote:
   Is there anybody know what is matter?
 
  Your initscripts got corrupted. I got a similar corruption on my firewall
  a few days ago. Just emerge baselayout. Bring up your IP manually if you
  need to.

 I have emerge baselayout.But it doesn't work.It's still all the same!

Did you ran etc-update?

BTW, what version of baselayout do you have installed? 
My /lib/rcscripts/net.modules.d is almost empty (only a directory called 
helpers.d)



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