Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: Looking at the Portage tree, I see that some packages are kept ~x86 for long time without any bugs referenced in the changelog or Bugzilla. How are they being made stable (or where in the docs is the process described)? They need to be in the tree for at least 30 days, no bugs, and if someone files a stable request ebuild, then an arch tester will test it, and then a dev will keyword it stable. Most stuff doesnt get marked stable mostly because there aren't any stable requests. Stabilisation bug it not a requirement. Package should go to stable after 30 days + no bugs even without stabilization bug. I have an impresion that developers are _waiting_ for stabilization bugs which is wrong. I've raised a similar question few months ago. It's pretty long discussion on -user and -dev: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/166565/ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/40719/ Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Important security update for GnuPG!
On Thursday 04 January 2007 18:01, Thomas Rösner wrote: Nelson wrote: This is strange, I just made a emerge sync and then a emerge --update world. I have still version 1.4.5. I use x86 (no ~x86). [...] Maybe have I to do an emerge -uD ? because I do only emerge --update ? I don't think that's the problem. To my knowledge the -D means update related packages (it means deep). Half way right: in this case, gnupg-1.4.6 *is* a related package. If you have gnupg in world, and tell portage to --update world, it will update the highest slot version of gnupg, in this case 1.9. Only when you say --deep, it will go for the other slots, too, *if* something else still depends on them. See the original GLSAs for reference - the first GLSA used --update gnupg, the second corrected GLSA said --update =gnupg-1.4* or something equivalent (all from memory). Problem resolved: I did know a emerge -uD world and it updated my gnupg version to 1.4.6. So from now I will any time use the arguments -uD when I'm updating Gentoo. Would it not be better if the deep update would be the default update? Because this is confusing (for non gentoo experienced users). By the way the emerge =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.6 worked also before I did the deep update. So its also possible to manally update gnupg. Thanks very much for your support. -- E-Mail sent with anti-spam site TrashMail.net! Free disposable email addresses: http://www.trashmail.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] freedesktop server alternative
Hi all, Happy new year and so on... Freedesktop's servers are not up yet. Gentoo really needs to find alternate sources of tarballs for freedestop related stuff... Would you try it from your ISP please? May be it's my ISP problem... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freedesktop server alternative
On Friday, 5 January 2007 19:34, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Hi all, Happy new year and so on... Freedesktop's servers are not up yet. Gentoo really needs to find alternate sources of tarballs for freedestop related stuff... Would you try it from your ISP please? May be it's my ISP problem... freedesktop.org and ftp.freedesktop.org are running fine here. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freedesktop server alternative
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:04:00 +0100, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Freedesktop's servers are not up yet. Gentoo really needs to find alternate sources of tarballs for freedestop related stuff... Would you try it from your ISP please? May be it's my ISP problem... ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org works from here. -- Neil Bothwick NOTE: In order to control energy costs the light at the end of the tunnel has been shut off until further notice... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Fix file system permissions
-Original Message- From: Joshua Schmidlkofer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 05:04 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Fix file system permissions Hey, a customer on a hosted server did this today: sudo chown -R lighttpd / -- You can imagine that things are a little borked. How do you fix this with Gentoo? Sincerely, Joshua rm -f /home/customer ;) On a more serious note, I'd go with doing chow -R root / and of course then doing for i in 1,2,3,4,... etc \ chown -R customer$i /home/customer$i You get the idea : David Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
Hi All, Apologies for the off-topic post but I thought to ask here because there have been a couple of threads in the past where embedded Linux OS' for hardware routers were discussed and that may offer a solution to my problem. I would like to be able to tunnel through ssh to my home router (netgear DG834) from random public wifi access points, for the purpose of connecting through my own ISP to the internet for internet browsing and email. I do not want to run a PC behind the router. Instead, I am looking for an enhanced hardware router type of solution. Would you perhaps know of either a COTS product, or a Linux embedded approach to fulfil this requirement? -- Regards, Mick pgpWlYwTfvvWd.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
Hello, first thanks all for your great support on Gentoo Linux. I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have bought. Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? I don't want to have trouble with wireless, webcam or this kind of stuff. Is there maybe a laptop hardware constructor which supports 100% Linux on laptop? Best regards, saf -- E-Mail sent with anti-spam site TrashMail.net! Free disposable email addresses: http://www.trashmail.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
-Original Message- From: qfpvajdy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 12:47 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux? Hello, first thanks all for your great support on Gentoo Linux. I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have bought. Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? I don't want to have trouble with wireless, webcam or this kind of stuff. Is there maybe a laptop hardware constructor which supports 100% Linux on laptop? Best regards, saf -- Hi Check the Gentoo Wiki Hardware section as it lists many of the common laptop brands and models that have been known to work with Linux. In general as far as I am aware nVidia video cards work better in Linux than ATi ones, and you might want to avoid anything too brand new if you are worried about hardware support? I'm not entirely sure. I currently have a HP DV8000 series laptop: the nVidia graphics work great (I play UT2k4 on it in Linux), the Intel HD Audio works well (as long as you use the userspace drivers - the kernel drivers dont seem to work so well, and result in quite poor sound sometimes IMO). The wireless is Intel ipw3945 and works great once set up according to the instructions in the gentoo wiki. I'd find a laptop you like and start searching for information about the various bits of hardware to see if they will work. Cheers, David PS There is a gentoo-laptop list as well... : Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
Hello, On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 01:46:32PM +0100, qfpvajdy wrote: Hello, first thanks all for your great support on Gentoo Linux. I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have bought. I have Dell Latitude D510, and I made work anything I had opportunity to test. I did not test infrared and docking. I have the version with intel WiFi card. AFAIK this exact model is not sold any more, but something similar enough should be. -- Michal vorner Vaner == This email has been checked by an automatic damage possibility check system. It can contain harmful instructions if read backwards. Internal checker ID: lacol.cr/cte/ tlah ohce pgpMDEN9bS4EP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: USB Mouse configuration instructions for xorg?
* Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-05 02:45] : My son bought a fancy mouse for playing games in windows. It works in Windows but so far not in Linux. [...] Unfortunately X isn't seeing it so far. Also the red optical generator on the bottom is not turned on so I'm not sure it will actually work yet anyway. [...] Any other ideas warmly welcomed. Thanks, Mark Hi Mark, I have the same mouse and it works flawless with the following settings: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 8 Option ButtonMapping 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 EndSection I also want to point you to http://razertool.sourceforge.net/ - a very handy tool to change settings ;-) HTH Stefan PS: This is with x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1 ... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] distcc
I am reading over the info on distcc so that I might be able to setup an older P4 1.3 Ghz system to have help compiling from my dual Opteron (amd64 mode). I only want the Opteron to help the P4, not the other way around, the Opteron does not need the help. Is that configurable as such? Thanks Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Mouse configuration instructions for xorg?
Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2007 03:45 schrieb ext Mark Knecht: Unfortunately X isn't seeing it so far. Also the red optical generator on the bottom is not turned on so I'm not sure it will actually work yet anyway. Do you have support for USB input devices in your kernel (CONFIG_USB_HID=m)? If yes, is the module (usbhid) loaded, along with usbcore and [ou]hci_hcd? Does USB work at all? Do you see that the mouse is detected (run dmesg after plugging in the mouse). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpLkzdX2vNuq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
sean wrote: I am reading over the info on distcc so that I might be able to setup an older P4 1.3 Ghz system to have help compiling from my dual Opteron (amd64 mode). I only want the Opteron to help the P4, not the other way around, the Opteron does not need the help. Is that configurable as such? Reading further, it appears that if I leave out the P4 from the host list on the Opteron, the Opteron will not use the P4. Does that sound correct to anyone who has tried this setup? Also, I am trying to decide if the P4 would benefit from my leaving it out of its own compiling? Any comments again from those who may have tried this? Thanks Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:49:30 +0300, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: Looking at the Portage tree, I see that some packages are kept ~x86 for long time without any bugs referenced in the changelog or Bugzilla. How are they being made stable (or where in the docs is the process described)? They need to be in the tree for at least 30 days, no bugs, and if someone files a stable request ebuild, then an arch tester will test it, and then a dev will keyword it stable. Most stuff doesnt get marked stable mostly because there aren't any stable requests. Stabilisation bug it not a requirement. Package should go to stable after 30 days + no bugs even without stabilization bug. I have an impresion that developers are _waiting_ for stabilization bugs which is wrong. I've raised a similar question few months ago. It's pretty long discussion on -user and -dev: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/166565/ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/40719/ Robert Thanks for the threads. My impression is that the way stabilization works should be described in a place of high visibility, at least in the FAQ. I beleive this question will be asked again and again if new users do not see how stable is defined early. If they see the definition, no questions will be asked. For example, I do not think that developers waiting for bug reports to stabilize an ebuild is either wrong or correct. It is just a part of the current definition of the term stable. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On 05 January 2007 14:22, Mick wrote: Hi All, Apologies for the off-topic post but I thought to ask here because there have been a couple of threads in the past where embedded Linux OS' for hardware routers were discussed and that may offer a solution to my problem. I would like to be able to tunnel through ssh to my home router (netgear DG834) from random public wifi access points, for the purpose of connecting through my own ISP to the internet for internet browsing and email. What do you mean by tunnelling? Do you want an IP layer tunnelled through ssh? Bad idea! I means TCP over TCP which is bound to fail when the outer and inner TCP timeouts get out of sync. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 Proof of concept of a TSP solver for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/epat-0.1.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uwe Thiem wrote: What do you mean by tunnelling? Do you want an IP layer tunnelled through ssh? Bad idea! I means TCP over TCP which is bound to fail when the outer and inner TCP timeouts get out of sync. More about that here: Why TCP over TCP is a Bad Idea http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica ¿No sabés a dónde ir a comer o tomar algo? Visitá www.vivamoslavida.com.ar LISTA DE CASAMIENTO: Cualquier Fravega a nombre de Busleiman (37520). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFnl3yAlpOsGhXcE0RAkajAJ90jlI+bZVDTKv3S3jMrjXW/YN0jwCfexID xzEtpVQfcssq6FHCd8uNPWA= =E1fU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:04:26 +0300 Andrey Gerasimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the threads. My impression is that the way stabilization works should be described in a place of high visibility, at least in the FAQ. I beleive this question will be asked again and again if new users do not see how stable is defined early. If they see the definition, no questions will be asked. For example, I do not think that developers waiting for bug reports to stabilize an ebuild is either wrong or correct. It is just a part of the current definition of the term stable. It is described in gentoo docs: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap4 See part Moving package versions from ~ARCH to ARCH. I agree that this is perhaps not a place with high visibility. Maybe it should be included into FAQs. Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable
Robert Cernansky wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: Looking at the Portage tree, I see that some packages are kept ~x86 for long time without any bugs referenced in the changelog or Bugzilla. How are they being made stable (or where in the docs is the process described)? They need to be in the tree for at least 30 days, no bugs, and if someone files a stable request ebuild, then an arch tester will test it, and then a dev will keyword it stable. Most stuff doesnt get marked stable mostly because there aren't any stable requests. Stabilisation bug it not a requirement. Package should go to stable after 30 days + no bugs even without stabilization bug. No, it's not a requirement. It's a notice telling the developers that hey, someone wants it marked stable. Plus, if a user / arch tester does the legwork already of checking to make sure the dependencies are good to go, then we appreciate the work and it creates less of a load for us. I have an impresion that developers are _waiting_ for stabilization bugs which is wrong. That's not true. But there's certainly enough work to go around that they can get neglected. I've raised a similar question few months ago. It's pretty long discussion on -user and -dev: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/166565/ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/40719/ Good discussions, and my opinion is still the same -- that most packages are assigned to herds, or unassigned to nobody, are minor things, and nobody is directly looking after them. As a result they just plain get ignored. In summary, no a stable bug is not needed, but if its a small less popular package, it probably won't hit on anyones radar any other way. Plus, I'm working on integrating some similar checks found in http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable/ into the GPNL website ( http://spaceparanoids.org/gentoo/gpnl/ ), so that we can again easily see how long packges have been neglected. Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
On 05 January 2007 15:47, sean wrote: I am reading over the info on distcc so that I might be able to setup an older P4 1.3 Ghz system to have help compiling from my dual Opteron (amd64 mode). I only want the Opteron to help the P4, not the other way around, the Opteron does not need the help. Is that configurable as such? Yes, but you need to set up a cross-compiler on the Opteron. Or can the 64bit compiler generate 32bit code? Not too sure here. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 Proof of concept of a TSP solver for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/epat-0.1.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] alsa-driver
Hi fellow Gentoo users, Today I updated my working alsa-driver to version 1.0.14_rc4 and when I restart /etc/init.d/alsasound I get following error: # modules-update -f /etc/init.d/alsasound restart * Updating /etc/modules.conf ... [ ok ] * Updating /etc/modprobe.conf ... [ ok ] * Updating modules.dep ... [ ok ] * Service alsasound stopping * WARNING: you are stopping a boot service. /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1253: No soundcards found... [ !! ] * Service alsasound stopped * Service alsasound starting FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r6/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [ !! ] ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers * Service alsasound started But there (obviously) is no sound... So I tried rebooting to ensure proper reinsertion of the modules. This was no avail. The dmesg output (referred to by the error) is: snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq Reverting back to the previous version fixes the sound once again. Any advice? Kind Regards -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver
The dmesg output (referred to by the error) is: snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq Reverting back to the previous version fixes the sound once again. Any advice? not sure, but maybe you ran into compiler incompatibilities. Anyway, I wonder why all people still try to install the alsa-driver package. You don't need it as all drivers already are in the kernel. ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver
-Original Message- From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 15:45 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver The dmesg output (referred to by the error) is: snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq Reverting back to the previous version fixes the sound once again. Any advice? not sure, but maybe you ran into compiler incompatibilities. Anyway, I wonder why all people still try to install the alsa-driver package. You don't need it as all drivers already are in the kernel. ce In the case of some drivers (such as intel hd audio) I have found the userspace drivers to be far superior to the kernel modules which gave poor sound quality, incredibly low volume even when turned fully up, and frequent distortion. David Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On Friday 05 January 2007 14:17, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: What do you mean by tunnelling? Do you want an IP layer tunnelled through ssh? Bad idea! I means TCP over TCP which is bound to fail when the outer and inner TCP timeouts get out of sync. More about that here: Why TCP over TCP is a Bad Idea http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html Hmm, that explains why running VCN through ssh gets a bit ropy at times? So, is port forwarding for browsing and emails through ssh a bad idea then? -- Regards, Mick pgpc3JIp3edyy.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
On 2007-01-05, qfpvajdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have bought. I've got an IBM R52, and everything works fine -- including wireless and the winmodem. I haven't tried bluetooth yet, but I've read that it works. Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? http://tuxmobil.org/ http://www.linux-laptop.net/ I don't want to have trouble with wireless, webcam or this kind of stuff. Is there maybe a laptop hardware constructor which supports 100% Linux on laptop? http://www.emperorlinux.com/ http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/1 http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Yow! Are we wet yet? at visi.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:33:31 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:49:30 +0300, Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0700 Steve Dibb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most stuff doesnt get marked stable mostly because there aren't any stable requests. Stabilisation bug it not a requirement. Actually, everything I said in that last email was a little off. Stabilization bugs are required because ultimately it is the architecture team that is going to mark it stable, not the developer. There are some cases where things can go directly stable (such as security vulnerabilities), but those are the exception and not the rule. So if you want something stable, do all the checks, file a bug, and copy all the arches that it applies to. You can see which ones use it on http://packages.gentoo.org/ I perfectly agree with your previous e-mail where you sayng that it's a notice telling the developers that hey, someone wants it marked stable. And I agree that stabilisation bugs are helping developers and everybody should write it when appropriate. But it should not be a requirement. In documentation [1] it is not mentioned a stabilisation bug. Is there any other documentation specific for architecture team that have higher priorty? The exception because of security bug, that you mentioned, allows to ingnore 30 days + no bugs rule, it has nothing to do with stabilisation bugs. 1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap4 Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't find my partition when config grub
2007/1/5, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chuanwen Wu wrote: My problem is the grub can't find my partition or even disk.So now, when I press tab key, there is not any notation appearing.That I think,because grub can't detect my disk. /dev/cciss is a kind of Logic Volume Manager(LVM).I don't know how exactly it works. It sounds to me like you have a Compaq SmartArray. You CAN get one of those to work but you will have to jump through a few hoops. The experiences of one person who did it are here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-10380-highlight-compaq+proliant.html Thank you.Your link help me a lot! I install my grub in another way: First,I write a line (hd0) /dev/cciss/c0d0 to /boot/grub/device.map. then : #grub --device-map /boot/grub/device.map root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) quit /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 is my /boot partition. But after I rebooted,the error was: Invalid system disk Replace the disk,and then press any key. Now,I can't boot any OS and can't even enter the grub menu. Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Best regards, wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On Friday 5 January 2007 16:53, Mick wrote: More about that here: Why TCP over TCP is a Bad Idea http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html Hmm, that explains why running VCN through ssh gets a bit ropy at times? Do you mean VNC? So, is port forwarding for browsing and emails through ssh a bad idea then? No, because with ssh port forwarding you just forward the data coming from/going to the application (eg, mailreader) without stacking additional protocols (as in, for example, ppp or ip over ssh), for which you need some way of forwarding IP-or-lower-level data between interfaces (for example, using tun/tap). Some programs (like openvpn) overcome the issue by using tcp-over-udp by default. And, anyway, tcp over tcp is a bad idea, but that does not necessarily mean that it won't work. It will most likely fail when the transport link is slow or error prone. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver
In the case of some drivers (such as intel hd audio) I have found the userspace drivers to be far superior to the kernel modules which gave poor sound quality, incredibly low volume even when turned fully up, and frequent distortion. using the alsa-driver package makes sense to get more recent drivers (that's why it exists). But the mentioned snd_intel8x0 in the kernel should work very well. ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 05 January 2007 15:47, sean wrote: I am reading over the info on distcc so that I might be able to setup an older P4 1.3 Ghz system to have help compiling from my dual Opteron (amd64 mode). I only want the Opteron to help the P4, not the other way around, the Opteron does not need the help. Is that configurable as such? Yes, but you need to set up a cross-compiler on the Opteron. Or can the 64bit compiler generate 32bit code? Not too sure here. Uwe I just read a short time ago about the cross compiler. From my reading it only needs to be installed on the machine starting the process and using resources of another. Since I want the P4 to use the Opteron then the P4 needs the cross compiler in place. I do not intend the Opteron to use the P4 for help, so it is not needed and I just tell distcc to use the local machine. I have the Opteron system setup, still need to setup the P4. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: This is interesting stuff that I didn't know. So if I've been using KDevelop 3.3.2 forever because 3.3.3, 3.3.4, and 3.3.5 are all ~x86, it's not necessarily because 3.3.5 is broken, just that nobody's certified it? How does this happen? KDevelop is a pretty big beast, and I'm only going to use the C/C++ part of it. I'd be hesitant to proclaim such a thing ready for prime time based on my usage. Well if it's been working for you, just file a stable request bug, post your emerge --info and the arch testers and teams will look at it. :) Thats pretty much how it works. Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] external USB harddrive
On 1/4/07, James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:28:06 -0500, James Lockie wrote: It mounts when I connect it but a user can't unmount it. My USB memory stick and USB card reader work fine. It is only the hard drive that I can't unmount as a user. You may need to add it to /etc/pmount.allow, as described in man pmount. I don't think pmount is installed/needed. Maybe not needed, but highly recommended, at least by me. I suggest merging it. # emerge -p pmount These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-apps/pmount-0.9.13 USE=crypt hal Ok, so how are you mounting the drive under KDE? ivman? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] archiving
On 1/4/07, James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compressing a folder doesn't work. When I right click on a folder in konqueror and select compress, a please wait dialog opens and the progress bar just moves back and forth. It is like it is in an infinite loop so end up cancelling. I've tried zip and tar.bz2 Any error messages showing up in ~/.xsession-errors? How much data is in the folders? Bzip2 at least will take a long time to compress...it processes at 1-3MB/s on most systems. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
sean wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: On 05 January 2007 15:47, sean wrote: I am reading over the info on distcc so that I might be able to setup an older P4 1.3 Ghz system to have help compiling from my dual Opteron (amd64 mode). I only want the Opteron to help the P4, not the other way around, the Opteron does not need the help. Is that configurable as such? I do something similar with a group of 2+ ghz p4s doing all the compiling for a 150 mhz p3. Yes, but you need to set up a cross-compiler on the Opteron. Or can the 64bit compiler generate 32bit code? Not too sure here. Uwe I just read a short time ago about the cross compiler. From my reading it only needs to be installed on the machine starting the process and using resources of another. Since I want the P4 to use the Opteron then the P4 needs the cross compiler in place. I think this is backwards. The cross compiler should be on the Opteron box, since distcc is asking the Opteron box to produce 32 bit code for the P4 box. John Blinka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
John Blinka wrote: I think this is backwards. The cross compiler should be on the Opteron box, since distcc is asking the Opteron box to produce 32 bit code for the P4 box. Check this out. Look at the line highlighted in green. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
qfpvajdy qfpvajdy at trashmail.net writes: Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? Before I purchased my HP pavilion (amd64) I took a liveCD to the store and just booted it up and got everything working, right in the store. If you cannot find all of the device drivers, take a usb flash and copy the results of lscpi, lshw, etc onto the flash device. Copy any other files/data information about the hardware, so you can research the linux compatibility options, remotely. Several trips might be necessary to get everything working hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
James wrote: qfpvajdy qfpvajdy at trashmail.net writes: Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? Before I purchased my HP pavilion (amd64) I took a liveCD to the store and just booted it up and got everything working, right in the store. If you cannot find all of the device drivers, take a usb flash and copy the results of lscpi, lshw, etc onto the flash device. Copy any other files/data information about the hardware, so you can research the linux compatibility options, remotely. Several trips might be necessary to get everything working That sounds like a good suggestion. I've got a Toshiba Tecra that I love. I'd recommend against ATI video (Nvidia and Intel seem to work much more reliably [read: at all] with the new XGL stuff, if you care about that). Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Error when trying to emerge --update --deep --newuse world
Hey all, I installed Gentoo 2006.1. I ran either: emerge-webrsync // because I can't rsync through my company's firewall or emerge --update --deep world ... it revealed that I need portage needed updating ... so I: emerge portage ... I also installed mysql, php, apache and mediawiki. Mediawiki required me to set pcre mysql and session in my USE ... I only need to add mysql the other 2 were already there. After installing that software I wanted to update my system, so I ran emerge --update --deep --newuse world ... here's the info ... Error: the sys-apps/coldplug package conflicts with another package; the two packages cannot be installed on the same system together. ... I then did ... emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world output_file followed by: grep blocks output_file [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-103) I can't emerge: sys-fs/udev-103 or udev-103 b/c that's not a valid package atom ... What do I need to do to resolve this? This installation is for a VM that I'm preparing for use at work. Currently I've got a standalone machine that this will be replacing ... that machine is running 2006.0. I've not tried to update it yet, and wanted to wait until I've migrated my mediawiki install from that 2006.0 machine to the new machine. Thanks, Shawn Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
I've got an IBM Thinkpad Z60m and Thinkpad A21p on which Linux works great (The A21p is running Gentoo 2006.0, and the Z60m is running Gentoo 2006.1). On 1/5/07, Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James wrote: qfpvajdy qfpvajdy at trashmail.net writes: Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? Before I purchased my HP pavilion (amd64) I took a liveCD to the store and just booted it up and got everything working, right in the store. If you cannot find all of the device drivers, take a usb flash and copy the results of lscpi, lshw, etc onto the flash device. Copy any other files/data information about the hardware, so you can research the linux compatibility options, remotely. Several trips might be necessary to get everything working That sounds like a good suggestion. I've got a Toshiba Tecra that I love. I'd recommend against ATI video (Nvidia and Intel seem to work much more reliably [read: at all] with the new XGL stuff, if you care about that). Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic
Re: [gentoo-user] Error when trying to emerge --update --deep --newuse world
Hi, Just update your kernel to the latest version, and that will probably pull udev in with it. I don't know if you can just install udev, but the atom is called udev, not udev-103 Regards Shawn Singh schreef: Hey all, I installed Gentoo 2006.1. I ran either: emerge-webrsync // because I can't rsync through my company's firewall or emerge --update --deep world ... it revealed that I need portage needed updating ... so I: emerge portage ... I also installed mysql, php, apache and mediawiki. Mediawiki required me to set pcre mysql and session in my USE ... I only need to add mysql the other 2 were already there. After installing that software I wanted to update my system, so I ran emerge --update --deep --newuse world ... here's the info ... Error: the sys-apps/coldplug package conflicts with another package; the two packages cannot be installed on the same system together. ... I then did ... emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world output_file followed by: grep blocks output_file [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-103) I can't emerge: sys-fs/udev-103 or udev-103 b/c that's not a valid package atom ... What do I need to do to resolve this? This installation is for a VM that I'm preparing for use at work. Currently I've got a standalone machine that this will be replacing ... that machine is running 2006.0. I've not tried to update it yet, and wanted to wait until I've migrated my mediawiki install from that 2006.0 machine to the new machine. Thanks, Shawn Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic -- Secretaris PR SIN -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Error when trying to emerge --update --deep --newuse world
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:50:42 -0500, Shawn Singh wrote: emerge --update --deep --newuse world ... here's the info ... Error: the sys-apps/coldplug package conflicts with another package; the two packages cannot be installed on the same system together. ... Unmerge coldplug, it's no longer used. emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world output_file followed by: grep blocks output_file [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-103) I can't emerge: sys-fs/udev-103 or udev-103 b/c that's not a valid package atom ... No, but it is a valid package version. The problem is that you have coldplug installed and coldplug's functionality is now provided by udev in version 103. What do I need to do to resolve this? emerge -C coldplug emerge uavDN world Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic But not this time, eh? :) -- Neil Bothwick Pentium instruction of the day: FLI: Flash Lights Impressively signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Error when trying to emerge --update --deep --newuse world
But not this time, eh? :) lol ;) , thx, Ken and Neil. On 1/5/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:50:42 -0500, Shawn Singh wrote: emerge --update --deep --newuse world ... here's the info ... Error: the sys-apps/coldplug package conflicts with another package; the two packages cannot be installed on the same system together. ... Unmerge coldplug, it's no longer used. emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world output_file followed by: grep blocks output_file [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-103) I can't emerge: sys-fs/udev-103 or udev-103 b/c that's not a valid package atom ... No, but it is a valid package version. The problem is that you have coldplug installed and coldplug's functionality is now provided by udev in version 103. What do I need to do to resolve this? emerge -C coldplug emerge uavDN world Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic But not this time, eh? :) -- Neil Bothwick Pentium instruction of the day: FLI: Flash Lights Impressively -- Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic
[gentoo-user] Found eth0, what's depreciated
Good call Karl; I had been thinking of an older system when I modprobed what I thought was my card. It still didn't work after a modprobing, but I compiled it straight in, and it worked just fine. Thank you, Karl. Just out of curiosity (to the list in general), to undepreciate my eth0, is that just making the net.eth0 file, or am I missing something? -Eric - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This message was sent using EZ-Net's Webmail EZ-Net Inc : Internet · Computers · Networks 920-846-8008 http://www.ez-net.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
On 05 January 2007 18:47, sean wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: On 05 January 2007 15:47, sean wrote: I am reading over the info on distcc so that I might be able to setup an older P4 1.3 Ghz system to have help compiling from my dual Opteron (amd64 mode). I only want the Opteron to help the P4, not the other way around, the Opteron does not need the help. Is that configurable as such? Yes, but you need to set up a cross-compiler on the Opteron. Or can the 64bit compiler generate 32bit code? Not too sure here. Uwe I just read a short time ago about the cross compiler. From my reading it only needs to be installed on the machine starting the process and using resources of another. Since I want the P4 to use the Opteron then the P4 needs the cross compiler in place. I do not intend the Opteron to use the P4 for help, so it is not needed and I just tell distcc to use the local machine. Nope, that's the other way round. Since your Opetron is supposed to compile stuff for a 32bit P4, it needs the cross-compiler - if it needs it. Still not sure whether the 64bit gcc can generate 32bit code. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 Proof of concept of a TSP solver for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/epat-0.1.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Follow-up on the HDD problems...
* Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Unfortunately software developers can do a lot to your system under the guise of copy protection. I for one think that there should be a written warning on the back of the box of every game that installs software on your PC for the purpose of copy protection. Some such as Starforce can cause havoc with a system. There also were some rumors about trojans on audio discs. I'd really like to get one of those discs into my fingers, for an forensic analysis + criminal information. Installing trojans is criminal (at least in .de), and should be treated as such. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Found eth0, what's depreciated
On 1/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good call Karl; I had been thinking of an older system when I modprobed what I thought was my card. It still didn't work after a modprobing, but I compiled it straight in, and it worked just fine. Thank you, Karl. Just out of curiosity (to the list in general), to undepreciate my eth0, is that just making the net.eth0 file, or am I missing something? -Eric I don't mean to be pedantic, but you mean deprecate, I assume, unless you're worried your network card isn't worth what it once was. Could you post more info? I.e. specific error messages, so on. IIRC, you need to link net.eth0 to net.lo, configure /etc/conf.d/net (as explained in /etc/conf.d/net.example) and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start. If you get error messages, please post those, along with the relevant part of /etc/conf.d/net -- Ryan W Sims -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On Friday 05 January 2007 17:00, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Friday 5 January 2007 16:53, Mick wrote: More about that here: Why TCP over TCP is a Bad Idea http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html Hmm, that explains why running VCN through ssh gets a bit ropy at times? Do you mean VNC? Yes, if only I could type properly! ;-) So, is port forwarding for browsing and emails through ssh a bad idea then? No, because with ssh port forwarding you just forward the data coming from/going to the application (eg, mailreader) without stacking additional protocols (as in, for example, ppp or ip over ssh), for which you need some way of forwarding IP-or-lower-level data between interfaces (for example, using tun/tap). Some programs (like openvpn) overcome the issue by using tcp-over-udp by default. OK. I don't think I need to run a full VPN. I just want to securely connect to my router at home while I am out about using public wifi hot spots and thereby to be able to connect to the internet using my ISP for browsing email. The only ports I should need to forward via ssh to the router/server are those serving http/https for browsing and 110/995/143/25/587 for email. If the above assumptions are correct then what sort of a hardware router would I need? (Either a straight off the shelf product, or one with modified firmware). Friends and colleagues often ask me how to achieve this, but all I can think is running a PC on the LAN as a server for this purpose - isn't this effectively a SOCKS5 server or am I getting mixed up here? No idea how to achieve the same functionality using the embedded OS of a hardware router. Thank you for your help. -- Regards, Mick pgpWTE4FLewG4.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] installprofile.xml
Hello, I have these files on several Gentoo systems: /root/clientconfiguration.xml /root/installprofile.xml Can they just be removed, or do they serve a useful/necessary/critical function? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki
* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another update issue: $wgDisableUploads has been replaced by $wgEnableUploads cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki
* kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people prefer to give their webapps limited insert, update, and delete access and it's likely that Mediawiki's updates require alter, create, drop, and file access which might be why they say to use an account with root privileges. For larger (not web-only) applications I can understand giving several subsystems specific access via separate views. But for an monolithic web(-only)-app like mediawiki, its really useless. The worst damage an attacker can do is deleting or changing data, database ownership is not needed for that. Does anyone known some way (w/o crawling too deep in the code) for givinb mediawiki the ownership of the database and never ever require superuser privileges anymore ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixie-Cron /bin/sh: root: command not found
On 1/5/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am running vixie-cron, but am unable to figure out what this is all about, I have followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml But on the report email, I only get on the email, the following: /bin/sh: root: command not found Here is my /etc/crontab That's the system crontab, which should have a user field in it. How about your user-specific crontab from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ? That should *not* have a user field in it AFAIK. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't find eth0
On 1/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I'm told that my usage (like I set it up) of eth0 is depreciated and I read net.example once over and multiple times in what I thought were the related areas and I can't get around this problem. This, still, is only a warning, hence its yellowiness, but then, as dhcp gets started, it fails to find the device. I've modprobed everything that might be needed within reason and ifconfig still can't find the card. Please post the outputs of lspci, lsmod, and the contents of /etc/conf.d/net.eth0. Without these we cannot help much. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc
sean wrote: John Blinka wrote: I think this is backwards. The cross compiler should be on the Opteron box, since distcc is asking the Opteron box to produce 32 bit code for the P4 box. Check this out. Look at the line highlighted in green. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml Yep, that's exactly the document I used to get cross-compiling working with distcc on my machines. See the paragraph near the top under the heading Emerge the needed utilities. The first sentence of this paragraph refers to machines that will be involved in the compiling process. One might argue that both your P4 and Opteron machines are involved since the P4 calls the compiler and the Opteron does the compiling. But the sentence really refers to machines that will actually *do* the compiling, i.e., your Opteron. So you should do 2 things on the Opteron box: emerge crossdev and crossdev -t arg where I'm guessing arg is i686-pc-linux-gnu for your P4 box. The green highlighted stuff are things you do on the P4 box. The explanation for doing the green highlighted stuff is found at the end of the page under the heading Why this works. John Blinka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On Friday 5 January 2007 21:25, Mick wrote: OK. I don't think I need to run a full VPN. I just want to securely connect to my router at home while I am out about using public wifi hot spots and thereby to be able to connect to the internet using my ISP for browsing email. The only ports I should need to forward via ssh to the router/server are those serving http/https for browsing and 110/995/143/25/587 for email. If I understand correctly then, you need ssh (and a public IP address) running on the router. For reading and sending email the setup is straightforward: just forward each of the ports you mentioned above to the appropriate server (via the router), set up your email program accordingly, and you're done. This way, your email data will go from your computer (wherever you are) to your router via the ssh tunnel, and from there (using your ISP connectivity) to the desired servers. For browsing the internet, the setup is just a little bit more complex. At least, you need a http proxy running on the router (like squid), then do port forwarding for ports 80, 443, etc. and set up your browser accordingly to use the proxy. This way, your http requests are sent to the proxy via the ssh tunnel, and from there go to the their intended destinations using your ISP connectivity. If the above assumptions are correct then what sort of a hardware router would I need? (Either a straight off the shelf product, or one with modified firmware). [cut] No idea how to achieve the same functionality using the embedded OS of a hardware router. Never used it myself, but take a look at the openwrt project. From what I understand, it seems that it lets you put linux into the firmware of many popular routers, and manage it using a web interface. Since it's linux, you obviously get all its benefits, including ssh. Anyway, I just read the openwrt docs very quickly, so it's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding things here, and hopefully someone more experienced than me will give you more reliable info. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki
* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone known some way (w/o crawling too deep in the code) for givinb mediawiki the ownership of the database and never ever require superuser privileges anymore ? Well, just found it out by myself: * log into you wiki database and give your wikiuser all permissions: GRANT ALL ON *.* TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; * set $wgDBadminuser/$wgDBadminpassword to your normal wiki user in AdminSettings.php (you may copy it from LocalSettings.php) * run 'php update.php' cu PS: does anyone get mediawiki running on postgresql ? -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] webapp-config
Hi folks, could anyone give me a short tip, how to query which webapps should be upgraded (- list of all webapps which have a newer version available) ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: For browsing the internet, the setup is just a little bit more complex. At least, you need a http proxy running on the router (like squid), then do port forwarding for ports 80, 443, etc. and set up your browser accordingly to use the proxy. This way, your http requests are sent to the proxy via the ssh tunnel, and from there go to the their intended destinations using your ISP connectivity. Actually it is very simple to socks proxy your ssh connection and use that without any additional software. ssh -D 1080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then pop into your broswer config and set the socks proxy to be 127.0.0.1:1080 and you're done. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't find my partition when config grub
Chuanwen Wu wrote: Now,I can't boot any OS and can't even enter the grub menu. TBH, all the machines I have had with SmartArrays have also had a simple SCSI or IDE HD for the purposes of booting. It makes life so much simpler. ;) Given the low price of IDE HDs these days, you don't need a big one, I think I would install one pretty damn quick. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] howto install a precise version of a software?
On 1/5/07, Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to install an exact ebuild of zope: http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?zope-2.8.8 What chapter of the documentation is related to that, please? I dont even now what's the name of the practice. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list The format is: emerge =category-name/package-name-version For instance, to emerge Zope 2.8.8, type emerge =net-zope/zope-2.8.8 -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] howto install a precise version of a software?
On 1/5/07, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/5/07, Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to install an exact ebuild of zope: http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?zope-2.8.8 What chapter of the documentation is related to that, please? I dont even now what's the name of the practice. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list The format is: emerge =category-name/package-name-version For instance, to emerge Zope 2.8.8, type emerge =net-zope/zope-2.8.8 -- - Mark Shields Replying to myself, I know, but... if you want to keep portage from trying to install a newer version when you do a world update, add =net-zope/zope-2.93 to /etc/portage/package.mask (although packages higher than 2.8.8 are currently marked as ~x86, so it isn't necessary at the moment) -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge openssl starts a bash debug session.
Here is what happnes: harellaptop etc # emerge openssl Calculating dependencies... done! Emerging (1 of 1) dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8d to / * openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz MD5 ;-) ... [ ok ] * openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz RMD160 ;-) ... [ ok ] * openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz SHA1 ;-) ... [ ok ] * openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz SHA256 ;-) ... [ ok ] * openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz size ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...[ ok ] * checking openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz ;-) ... [ ok ] Unpacking source... Unpacking openssl-0.9.8d.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/openssl-0.9.8d/work * Applying openssl-0.9.8-ppc64.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.7e-gentoo.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.8-hppa-fix-detection.patch ...[ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.7-alpha-default-gcc.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.8b-parallel-build.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.8-make-engines-dir.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.8-toolchain.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.8b-doc-updates.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying openssl-0.9.8-makedepend.patch ...[ ok ] Operating system: i686-whatever-linux2 Configuring for linux-elf == === SANITY TESTING! === No configuration will be done, all other arguments will be ignored! == No sanity errors detected! Source unpacked. Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/openssl-0.9.8d/work/openssl-0.9.8d ... * Use configuration linux-elf Reading /var/tmp/portage/openssl-0.9.8d/work/openssl-0.9.8d/Configure: [= ] 54% done. (/var/tmp/portage/openssl-0.9.8d/work/openssl-0.9.8d/Configure:1): 1: : bashdb0 ^D making depend in crypto... make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/openssl-0.9.8d/work/openssl-0.9.8d/crypto' makedepend: warning: cryptlib.c (reading /usr/include/stdlib.h, line 33): cannot find include file stddef.h not in ./stddef.h not in ../stddef.h not in ../include/stddef.h not in /usr/include/stddef.h makedepend: warning: cryptlib.c (reading /usr/include/bits/types.h, line 31): cannot find include file stddef.h not in ./stddef.h . . . And then hell goes loose (well not really that bad but bad enough - unresolved references and so on). Nelson, David (ED, PARD) wrote: -Original Message- From: David Harel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2007 08:32 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] emerge openssl starts a bash debug session. Hi there, When openssl emerges it goes into bash debug. anyway to aviod that? -- Regards. David Harel, Any other messages or such when it happens? Could you perhaps paste in the console output as it appears? (No ideas myself on this at this point, just trying to perhaps lay some groundwork for others who might notice the problem). David Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list. -- Regards. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 4422234 Fax:+972 77 4422234 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gentoo-user] Database migration software
Hi. I have a small database (100 tables) in firebird and want to migrate SOME data of it to a postgresql database. The latter database serves to a different purpose, so I just have to migrate specific columns of specific tables from the former database. Is there any app that can do that job? If not, I think I should create one... __ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] Database migration software
Jerônimo Backes wrote: Hi. I have a small database (100 tables) in firebird and want to migrate SOME data of it to a postgresql database. The latter database serves to a different purpose, so I just have to migrate specific columns of specific tables from the former database. Is there any app that can do that job? If not, I think I should create one... The easiest way is to use your favorite language and output CSV files of the data you want to import. Then take the files and import them into the new database. In Mysql it would look like this and I'd expect postgres to have similar tools. mysql -u root -p LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE '/firbird.csv' INTO TABLE new_table FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' LINES TERMINATED BY '\n' (column_name1, column_name2, column_name3); kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fix file system permissions
I would think a quick fix (by no means a FULL fix) would be to re-emerge sys-apps/baselayout. That should at least get your init scrips, and important configs back to the right permissions. I've never actually tried that however, so take it with a grain of salt. I would agree with most people on the list tho. Maybe its time for a machine upgrade and just re-emerge everything. Either way tho, I'm betting its going to take a lot of legwork to get things back to the way they were before hand. Also maybe its time to chroot your customers to keep them from screwing things up again :) On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 09:04:15PM -0800, Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote: Hey, a customer on a hosted server did this today: sudo chown -R lighttpd / -- You can imagine that things are a little borked. How do you fix this with Gentoo? Sincerely, Joshua -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Error when trying to emerge --update --deep --newuse world
On 1/5/07, Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-103) I can't emerge: sys-fs/udev-103 or udev-103 b/c that's not a valid package atom ... The correct way to specify a particular version is =sys-fs/udev-103 (or = or = or ~, etc). sys-fs/udev is also fine, but putting the version in the command requires one of those operators. That's what portage means when it complains about an invalid atom. -- Ryan W Sims -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable - suggestion for improvement
This is a little upsetting to learn that effectively stability happens as an after thought. I used to run a hybrid of ~x86 and stable, but I've gotten so tired of seeing new package versions every day, I felt I was spending more time compiling to get the latest versions, than actually using my system. I recently just deleted my /etc/portage/package.keywords file and was figuring that over time, I would then end up with a nice 'stable' system as each package caught up with the ~x86 one I was using currently. I didn't want to re-compile / downgrade everything either. But as I read this thread, it seems that in effect, I won't really be getting a more stable system, I'll just be getting an older, out of date one, as nobody is actively monitoring packages and then flagging them as stable. :( This feels like there should be some sort of cronjob running in conjunction with the bug tracker. It could go through every package, and check if it's version is = 30 days and also check the number of bugs. If there are some, it should ping the maintainer (and/or) the developer of said package, otherwise, it could automatically stabilize the package flag. So on one hand there is a little prod to get things moving, and on another, some of the manual task is reduced. Alternately, how about adding some sort of 'vote' or 'request stability' button on http://packages.gentoo.org/ for each package's detail page. This could then help 'automate' the requests and not tie up the bug tracker with requests (which aren't really bugs per se). DÆVID -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On Friday 05 January 2007 22:00, kashani wrote: Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: For browsing the internet, the setup is just a little bit more complex. At least, you need a http proxy running on the router (like squid), then do port forwarding for ports 80, 443, etc. and set up your browser accordingly to use the proxy. This way, your http requests are sent to the proxy via the ssh tunnel, and from there go to the their intended destinations using your ISP connectivity. Actually it is very simple to socks proxy your ssh connection and use that without any additional software. ssh -D 1080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then pop into your broswer config and set the socks proxy to be 127.0.0.1:1080 and you're done. I just checked and it seems that the OEM firmware on the netgear drops all ssh attempts to connect. :( $ ssh 192.168.0.1 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.1 port 22: Connection refused Same story when I use my internet IP address (it times out). It seems that I will have to try openwrt. Thank you all for your suggestions. PS. I noticed that the -D option can be specified as: ssh -D [bind_address:]port. Which bind_address should be used in the above example? I am not sure I understand how this is meant to be used. -- Regards, Mick pgpir34jNX1Gi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable - suggestion for improvement
Daevid Vincent wrote: But as I read this thread, it seems that in effect, I won't really be getting a more stable system, I'll just be getting an older, out of date one, as nobody is actively monitoring packages and then flagging them as stable. :( The problem, like many other things, comes down simply to manpower. I should stress, again, that popular, common applications and utilities are going to get marked stable on a regular basis. For the most part, its only the small, fringe programs that get lost in the cracks. And getting some tools in place to display how long packages have been unstable is in the works. Still though, there is just so much work to be done in the first place, not many developers go looking for things to mark stable. It makes things a lot simpler if that offload is placed on the users instead, because that way 1) we don't focus manpower on stabilizing everything just because its been 30 days and 2) we stabilize stuff that people are using anyway, and want to get marked stable. Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
Mick wrote: I just checked and it seems that the OEM firmware on the netgear drops all ssh attempts to connect. :( $ ssh 192.168.0.1 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.1 port 22: Connection refused Same story when I use my internet IP address (it times out). It seems that I will have to try openwrt. Thank you all for your suggestions. PS. I noticed that the -D option can be specified as: ssh -D [bind_address:]port. Which bind_address should be used in the above example? I am not sure I understand how this is meant to be used. My method works for any normal sshd server you can connect to that allows forwarding. OpenWRT should work for you as the socks proxy is created on the initiating user side, your local ssh client, that's why you set your browser to 127.0.0.1:port and then it forwards packets internal to the ssh tunnel without invoking anything on the server side. If you don't set an IP with -D then it uses localhost which is what you'd want in this case. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How packages are made stable - suggestion for improvement
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:23:51 -0700 Steve Dibb wrote: Daevid Vincent wrote: But as I read this thread, it seems that in effect, I won't really be getting a more stable system, I'll just be getting an older, out of date one, as nobody is actively monitoring packages and then flagging them as stable. :( The problem, like many other things, comes down simply to manpower. I should stress, again, that popular, common applications and utilities are going to get marked stable on a regular basis. For the most part, its only the small, fringe programs that get lost in the cracks. And getting some tools in place to display how long packages have been unstable is in the works. Still though, there is just so much work to be done in the first place, not many developers go looking for things to mark stable. It makes things a lot simpler if that offload is placed on the users instead, because that way 1) we don't focus manpower on stabilizing everything just because its been 30 days and 2) we stabilize stuff that people are using anyway, and want to get marked stable. Steve I've been reading this thread as well as the earlier (July) threads (from gmane) and notice that everyone is discussing 30 days, automatic, and stabilization bugs. What if there were 2 time periods - a minimum and a maximum. For example: with a 30 day min, a package would have to be bug free for 30 days before a stabilization bug _could_ be acted upon. If there are no open bugs and no stabilization bug was submitted , then a maximum period (perhaps 60 days, perhaps 6 months) would cause an _automatic_ upgrade to stable. Having an acceptably large max period would take some of the load off of developer shoulders and would prevent the current situation of having really old ~ARCH packges (some of which currently seem to measure in the hundreds of days). Just my $.02 David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] display adjustments
Hello, I have a one new gentoo sytems installed that works good with a 20 Sceptre LCD monitor. However, when I move the hdmi connector to a 32 vizio hdtv/display, the display is too large for the physical screen. This happens before I 'startx' and after kde/X starts up. I tried using DisplaySize but that did not work. Any ideas? What baffles me is the display is too big in console mode too? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't find my partition when config grub
2007/1/6, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chuanwen Wu wrote: Now,I can't boot any OS and can't even enter the grub menu. TBH, all the machines I have had with SmartArrays have also had a simple SCSI or IDE HD for the purposes of booting. It makes life so much simpler. ;) Given the low price of IDE HDs these days, you don't need a big one, I think I would install one pretty damn quick. ;) Is it the only way? Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Best regards, wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy
On Friday 05 January 2007 15:44, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Router for ssh tunnel/SOCKS proxy': On Friday 5 January 2007 21:25, Mick wrote: OK. I don't think I need to run a full VPN. I just want to securely connect to my router at home while I am out about using public wifi hot spots and thereby to be able to connect to the internet using my ISP for browsing email. The only ports I should need to forward via ssh to the router/server are those serving http/https for browsing and 110/995/143/25/587 for email. If I understand correctly then, you need ssh (and a public IP address) running on the router. [snip: and then forward a ton of ports] Or you could forward X over the ssh tunnel, and run your web browser on your router. :) Finally, if your email program and browser are SOCKS aware, you could simply set them up to use your ssh connection as a SOCKS proxy. There's specific support for this in OpenSSH, so that you don't have to open ports individually, it can be done dynamically on-demand. Never used it myself, but take a look at the openwrt project. From what I understand, it seems that it lets you put linux into the firmware of many popular routers, and manage it using a web interface. While there has been some work done on a web interface, it's not a priority for the core OpenWRT team. For me, manging my router from a command prompt worked better anyway. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgp3Qo07uig7f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver
On Friday 05 January 2007 09:47, Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver': Anyway, I wonder why all people still try to install the alsa-driver package. In the case of some drivers (such as intel hd audio) I have found the userspace drivers to be far superior to the kernel modules which gave poor sound quality, incredibly low volume even when turned fully up, and frequent distortion. I'll believe you, although your terms are wrong. The alsa-drivers package include the out-of-tree kernel modules, not userspace drivers. They still operate entirely in kernelspace, they are just not shipped with the kernel (like the kqemu module or the nvidia module). -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpeUqpe3RXT8.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
qfpvajdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have bought. I've just installed Gentoo on a Sony VAIO VGN-FS740, and I recommend against it. Almost everything in it is well-supported, but one of the most important things is a PiTA. Sony uses some unusual system to handle power management, and there are things the drivers available with the kernel will not handle. Most notably, I could not get control of LCD brightness without installing a driver which is (a) not in portage and (b) AFAICT not in most distros' repositories. If someone hadn't published a portage overlay for it, I would still be struggling with it. From what I've read (which was a lot more than I wanted to, this is the situation with most (all?) of Sony's FS models. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't find my partition when config grub
Chuanwen Wu wrote: Is it the only way? No, but it's the quickest and easiest way. It will probably save you a lot of time and frustration. Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 03 January 2007 20:24, Daniel Barkalow wrote: I didn't say it shouldn't require interaction to get the new shipped version; I said it should require extra confirmation to discard changes made locally. It should also be able to offer 3-way merge instead of 2-way, and automatically retain local changes that don't conflict with shipped changes. Please define exactly what a change that doesn't conflict with shipped changes means so that I can design a correct algorithm and implement it in C or Python. Take the diff between the original version and the local version, and call this local. Take the diff between the original version and the new shipped version, and call this remote. Represent each of these diffs as a series of hunks. Step through the original file, and, by splitting on each hunk boundary in either of the diffs, produce a series of hunks, where each hunk has at least one version; if there is more than one version, ask the user for help in merging that hunk. The versions are: - the original, if neither side has any changes. - the local, if only the local has a change. (*) - the original and the remote, if only the remote has a change. (+) - the local and the remote, if both diffs have changes. When multiple versions are available, make it clear what those versions are, ask for additional confirmation if the choices are local and remote and the user picks remote rather than using local or writing a new version by hand. Also allow arbitrary edits to the file, in case the user has to fix up syntax. (*) Optionally, the original and the local, if the user is particularly paranoid and wants to check over the purely local modifications. (+) This is the difference between this algorithm and RCS's merge: changes made remotely can be rejected. Include deprecated options, syntax changes, subtle changes in meaning, redefined syntax commands and new conflicting options in config files with the same name across version changes. make it bullet proof so that any regular dev can list these things easily in confidence of their correctness, where the user will know the impact without resorting to looking it up every time, and where the correct thing (defined by whatever $ARB_USER happens to believe they want) is done in the vast overwhelming majority of cases. I don't think the paranoid user case is actually that significant. Either the shipped version has to compensate for the change in semantics, in which case there will be a remote change, which demands user interaction; or the shipped version doesn't change, in which case the current etc-update doesn't help you, because the shipped versions before and after are identical and emerge doesn't tell etc-update to do anything. Note that my algorithm never treats a file entirely automatically unless the current etc-update also would treat it entirely automatically. Mine just acts on a per-hunk level instead of a per-file level, and also provides additional information on what's going on. I'm not jerking your chain here - that is the real spec of a system like you propose. I'm not being pedantic and nit-picking - these are the kind of detail things that make or break software. Windows Update fails in the real world as Microsoft implements vast sweeping monolithic changes leaving the user with no meaningful way to control the process other than do not apply SPx. Lets not even put one toe onto that road... There's sort of a continuum of bad designs, from no information and no control to no information and lots of control. It doesn't help the user much to have tons of control if there's no information to base a decision on. Think about how bad etc-update would be if it didn't tell you the filename you were working on. Microsoft does both of these bad things (stuff just happens, and the computer might not work and you have to make this critical decision: 'yes' or 'no'). Gentoo is far better, but I think etc-update would be a lot better with more information given to the user; e.g., the choice for replace the old shipped configuration with a new shipped configuration should be a different key from replace the locally-modified configuration with a new shipped configuration, rather than both being replace the current configuration with the new shipped configuration. I don't actually mind the 100 files in etc-update all that much. The issue is that the first 99 are files I've never touched where I've never even learned the config file syntax, or the occasional executable in a weird place, or init scripts I haven't modified, or examples that aren't actually used, and the 100th one is my coworker's lovingly hand-crafted CUPS configuration, and I'm half asleep by the time I get to it. It should be able to tell that I've got local modifications, and warn me that I'm in danger of losing work on the config file. It's just kind of
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, qfpvajdy wrote: Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? I've got almost everything working on my Lenovo 3000-N100 0768-36U. I haven't played too much with suspending, and I haven't got the last detail working on the software modem (slmodemd is using an audio format not supported by my codec). When I bought the machine in September, there were a bunch of things not yet supported, or only supported in testing versions that are now stable. I don't want to have trouble with wireless, webcam or this kind of stuff. ipw3945 is well supported (except that it's not on the install CD, so you need ethernet to install it). I didn't get a webcam. You should probably also specify what features you want, rather than that you just want all of the features to be supported; I haven't used the firewire on mine at all, despite the fact that it reportedly works, and I've got a Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 0843 that will never have Linux support because it doesn't actually do anything at all (it's the placeholder device for a 4-device-in-1-chip, where the 4 devices pretend to be various single device Ricoh chips and appear as 4 more devices). -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
