Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
Hello,
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 07:47:40AM +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 21:43:03 Matthew R. Lee wrote:
When I click on a URL in an email it opens a new Konqueror window. However
I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to Open as tab in existing
Konqueror when URL is called externally I've looked through the KMail
configuration settings but I can't find anywhere to change this. Is there
a way?
This has been annoying me too. I'm quite interested if anybody knows a better
way to fix it but I've worked around it by setting /usr/local/bin/konqueror
as my Web Browser in kcontrol - KDE Components - Component Chooser. If you
do the same do remember to make /usr/local/bin/konqueror executable.
$ cat /usr/local/bin/konqueror
#!/bin/bash
SESS=$(/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop | sed '/^konqueror/q;d')
if [[ -z ${SESS} ]]; then
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/konqueror $*
else
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop ${SESS} konqueror-mainwindow\#1 newTab $*
fi
I do not use KMail, but you probably could replace this script with
kfmclient. I use that one from many applications (usually non-KDE ones).
With regards
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[gentoo-user] Re: Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la
Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This would be so much easier to answer if you'd post the output of: # revdep-rebuild -i -X -p Yep, you're of course right. I should've thought about this right away. Sorry about that :( (I truly mean it!) Here's the output of revdep-rebuild: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies . . . ..... done! [ebuild R ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.10.9 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.6.0 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/libglade-2.6.0 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/pango-1.14.10 [ebuild R ] dev-python/pycairo-1.2.6 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libsvg-cairo-0.1.6 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.10 [ebuild R ] x11-wm/metacity-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.16.1 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-2.6.3 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.16.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gail-1.9.3 [ebuild R ] app-text/gtkspell-2.0.11-r1 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gucharmap-1.8.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.8.25-r1 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gconf-editor-2.16.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gnome-keyring-manager-2.16.0-r1 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.7-r1 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libgksu-2.0.0 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/gtkglarea-1.99.0 [ebuild R ] dev-python/pygtk-2.10.4 [ebuild R ] net-misc/vino-2.16.0-r1 [ebuild R ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.16.2 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/vte-0.14.2 [ebuild R ] dev-dotnet/gtk-sharp-2.10.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/eel-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver-2.16.2 [ebuild R ] www-client/epiphany-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.16.1 [ebuild R ] dev-dotnet/glade-sharp-2.10.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/fast-user-switch-applet-2.16.0 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.12.1 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.1 [ebuild R ] dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-2.16.0 [ebuild R ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-2.0.15 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.4-r5 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.16.2 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.16.2-r2 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.12.3 [ebuild R ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-conduits-2.0.15 [ebuild R ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.4 [ebuild R ] gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.16.3 [ebuild R ] media-video/vlc-0.8.6_p18636 USE=x264%* [ebuild R ] app-misc/beagle-0.2.16.2 [ebuild R ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.16.3 [32;01mNow you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run revdep-rebuild.[0m You can find the complete output of running revdep-rebuild at http://askwar.pastebin.ca/383328. Best regards, Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
Hey everybody, I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16, trying to emerge it . . . server ~ # emerge -vp mail-mta/qmail These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] mail-mta/netqmail (is blocking mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16) [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail (is blocking mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5) [ebuild N] net-mail/queue-fix-1.4-r2 22 kB [ebuild N] mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5 USE=ssl -gencertdaily -highvolume -mailwrapper -noauthcram -qmail-spp -vanilla 0 kB [ebuild N] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 USE=ssl -gencertdaily -logmail -mailwrapper -noauthcram -notlsbeforeauth (-selinux) 460 kB [ebuild N] virtual/qmail-1.03 0 kB Total: 4 packages (4 new, 2 blocks), Size of downloads: 481 kB After i've tried to remove the blocked packages: server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/netqmail --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/netqmail' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/qmail --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/qmail' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge server ~ # Any ideas what might couse this and/or how to fix it cheers, A Sotirov. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: quick kmail question
Matthew R. Lee wrote: When I click on a URL in an email it opens a new Konqueror window. However I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to Open as tab in existing Konqueror when URL is called externally I've looked through the KMail configuration settings but I can't find anywhere to change this. kfmclient newTab URL See also kfmclient --commands Anno. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:47:40 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
This has been annoying me too. I'm quite interested if anybody knows a
better way to fix it but I've worked around it by
setting /usr/local/bin/konqueror as my Web Browser in kcontrol - KDE
Components - Component Chooser. If you do the same do remember to
make /usr/local/bin/konqueror executable.
$ cat /usr/local/bin/konqueror
#!/bin/bash
SESS=$(/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop | sed '/^konqueror/q;d')
if [[ -z ${SESS} ]]; then
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/konqueror $*
else
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop ${SESS} konqueror-mainwindow\#1 newTab
$* fi
I don't use KMail, but you should be able to avoid using a script by
setting Web Browser to kfmclient exec, which does respect the tab
settings for Konqueror.
It seems to me that a KDE bug report is in order.
--
Neil Bothwick
Earlier, I didn't have time to finish anything. This time I w
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Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Monday 05 March 2007, Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] quick kmail question': When I click on a URL in an email it opens a new Konqueror window. However I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to Open as tab in existing Konqueror when URL is called externally I've looked through the KMail configuration settings but I can't find anywhere to change this. Is there a way? Oddly enough, I have the same settings and it Just Works (tm) for me. kmail will use a new tab if I have a konq window open and will open a new knoq window if I don't already have one. As an aside, it seems that kmail does /something/ to check to see if a existing konq window is responding -- if I click URLs too quickly, some will open in an existing window and others will open in a new window (with multiple tabs in that window if needed). I have also developed the habit of middle-clicking links, since I use kmail+akregator inside kontact and akregator wants to use a khtml tab inside itself if I don't middle-click. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpfOZFB8V2Q5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:54:36 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: As an aside, it seems that kmail does /something/ to check to see if a existing konq window is responding -- if I click URLs too quickly, some will open in an existing window and others will open in a new window (with multiple tabs in that window if needed). I see the same behaviour with KNewsTicker. -- Neil Bothwick Thou shalt not battle over operating systems. I am wise and in My wisdom have created diverse and various operating systems. The Ten Usenet Commandments: One signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:34:57 +, Mick wrote: Since aplay is hard masked, what external player should I use? aplay is not masked, it is part of alsa-utils. -- Neil Bothwick Kludge: (v., adj., or n.) to fix a program in the usual way. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 03:48:52AM -0500, KiLLeR 718th wrote: Hey everybody, I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16, trying to emerge it . . . server ~ # emerge -vp mail-mta/qmail These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] mail-mta/netqmail (is blocking mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16) [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail (is blocking mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5) [ebuild N] net-mail/queue-fix-1.4-r2 22 kB [ebuild N] mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5 USE=ssl -gencertdaily -highvolume -mailwrapper -noauthcram -qmail-spp -vanilla 0 kB [ebuild N] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 USE=ssl -gencertdaily -logmail -mailwrapper -noauthcram -notlsbeforeauth (-selinux) 460 kB [ebuild N] virtual/qmail-1.03 0 kB Total: 4 packages (4 new, 2 blocks), Size of downloads: 481 kB After i've tried to remove the blocked packages: server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/netqmail --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/netqmail' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge server ~ # emerge -C mail-mta/qmail --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/qmail' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge server ~ # Any ideas what might couse this and/or how to fix it First of all I've no idea about qmail. But the command: emerge -C mail-mta/netqmail or emerge -C mail-mta/qmail wont work because both packages are not installed on your system. As for the netqmail blocking qmail and vice versa try adding mailwrapper use flag (as said before I've no idea about qmail). Hope someone with better knowledge about qmail replies. Bye, Masood Ahmed pgpynturgUIkA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 09:11:40 Alexander Skwar wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This would be so much easier to answer if you'd post the output of: # revdep-rebuild -i -X -p Yep, you're of course right. I should've thought about this right away. Sorry about that :( (I truly mean it!) Here's the output of revdep-rebuild: [SNIP] So all you seem to need is to remerge pango before gtk+. The problem here is that revdep-rebuild is absolutely clueless when in comes to ordering the rebuilds Try: http://pastebin.ca/raw/383456 -- Bo Andresen pgpSmLp0SRoxV.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] dll.conf file in portage?
Hi All, I just noticed a file in portage which does not have the usual portage:portage ownership: -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 6 Mar 1 16:52 dll.conf It's contents are: = hpaio = Should it be there? -- Regards, Mick pgp2mn78ywzWc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On 06 March 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:54:36 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: As an aside, it seems that kmail does /something/ to check to see if a existing konq window is responding -- if I click URLs too quickly, some will open in an existing window and others will open in a new window (with multiple tabs in that window if needed). I see the same behaviour with KNewsTicker. Folks, have you filed bug reports upstream at KDE (*not* gentoo)? Even if comes from them for KDE 3.5.x, there is a very good chance to get the right behaviour into KDE 4 while its infrastructure is still under heavy development. Don't miss the chance. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 Proof of concept of a TSP solver for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/epat-0.1.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 09:48:52 KiLLeR 718th wrote: I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16, trying to emerge it . . . server ~ # emerge -vp mail-mta/qmail These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] mail-mta/netqmail (is blocking mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16) [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail (is blocking mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5) [ebuild N] net-mail/queue-fix-1.4-r2 22 kB [ebuild N] mail-mta/netqmail-1.05-r5 USE=ssl -gencertdaily -highvolume -mailwrapper -noauthcram -qmail-spp -vanilla 0 kB [ebuild N] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 USE=ssl -gencertdaily -logmail -mailwrapper -noauthcram -notlsbeforeauth (-selinux) 460 kB [ebuild N] virtual/qmail-1.03 0 kB [SNIP] --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/netqmail' to unmerge. [SNIP] --- Couldn't find 'mail-mta/qmail' to unmerge. [SNIP] Any ideas what might couse this and/or how to fix it What's going on here is that qmail depends on queue-fix which post-depends on virtual/qmail (a new style virtual) whose default provider is netqmail. netqmail blocks qmail which hence reverse blocks netqmail. ;) Clearly the portage resolver is being retarded by not realizing that qmail is an alternate provider for virtual/qmail. Still I have to ask why you don't just emerge virtual/qmail and be satisfied with netqmail? After all it is supposed to replace qmail... The alternative appears to be to file a bug against portage. http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060220-newsletter.xml -- Bo Andresen pgp7ELvUwMXPY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 12:34:01 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: What's going on here is that qmail depends on queue-fix which post-depends on virtual/qmail (a new style virtual) whose default provider is netqmail. netqmail blocks qmail which hence reverse blocks netqmail. ;) Clearly the portage resolver is being retarded by not realizing that qmail is an alternate provider for virtual/qmail. Still I have to ask why you don't just emerge virtual/qmail and be satisfied with netqmail? After all it is supposed to replace qmail... The alternative appears to be to file a bug against portage. Thinking about this one more time such a bug would probably be duped against bug #1343. If you really want mail-mta/qmail you simply need to put mail-mta/netqmail in /etc/portage/package.mask to help the resolver. -- Bo Andresen pgpqJsYRqylXi.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] UPS compatible to Gentoo
Hi guys. I need to buy a UPS for my gentoo-box. I need to be sure I can make the shutdown in case of black out. Can you suggest me a full compatible UPS? Price range 100/150€. Thanks in advance. -- spiff1281
[gentoo-user] UPS compatible to Gentoo
Hi guys. I need to buy a UPS for my gentoo-box. I need to be sure I can make the shutdown in case of black out. Could you suggest me a full compatible UPS? Any link is welcome. Price range 100/150€. Thanks in advance. -- spiff1281
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 10:16:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: I don't use KMail, but you should be able to avoid using a script by setting Web Browser to kfmclient exec, which does respect the tab settings for Konqueror. To everyone who suggested this... ahh, nice, that works thank you. :) -- Bo Andresen pgpAk1S6cUPZz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dll.conf file in portage?
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:07:13AM +, Mick wrote: Hi All, I just noticed a file in portage which does not have the usual portage:portage ownership: -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 6 Mar 1 16:52 dll.conf It's contents are: = hpaio = Should it be there? In my system there is no such file as dll.conf in the portage tree. It shouldn't be there. Do a emerge --sync and see what happens. Hope this helps, Masood Ahmed pgphUPLfgBYnP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dll.conf file in portage?
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 01:00:47PM +, Peter Ruskin wrote: It looks like it belongs to sane. The only dll.conf I have is: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 857 01 Oct 2006 11:20 /etc/sane.d/dll.conf If it belongs to sane then what is that file doing in portage tree as said by him rather than in /etc/sane.d ? Bye, Masood Ahmed pgpctByZX4Ocw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] UPS compatible to Gentoo
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:49:48PM +0100, Marco Fabbri wrote: Hi guys. I need to buy a UPS for my gentoo-box. I need to be sure I can make the shutdown in case of black out. Can you suggest me a full compatible UPS? Price range 100/150€. APC UPS seems best to me. Here's a gentoo specific HOWTO at the gentoo-wiki site: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_APCUPSD APC UPS are pretty cheap, and are supported by the apcupsd package. Info on installation and configuration can be found at the gentoo-wiki page listed above. Hope this help's, Masood Ahmed pgpjhWRgsnz0E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Monday 05 March 2007 20:43:03 Matthew R. Lee wrote: When I click on a URL in an email it opens a new Konqueror window. However I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to Open as tab in existing Konqueror when URL is called externally I've looked through the KMail configuration settings but I can't find anywhere to change this. Is there a way? Matt Konqueror - Settings - Configure Konqueror Web Behaviour - Advanced Options Select Open as tab in existing Konqeuror when URL is called externally. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question': On Monday 05 March 2007 20:43:03 Matthew R. Lee wrote: However I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to Open as tab in existing Konqueror when URL is called externally Konqueror - Settings - Configure Konqueror Web Behaviour - Advanced Options Select Open as tab in existing Konqeuror when URL is called externally. Hrm, maybe it would be best if you read the email before replying to it? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpZyad4kdzKw.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Problems rebuilding gtk+ (and many other packages), due to not found /usr/lib/libXCBRenderUtil.la
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 12:15 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: So all you seem to need is to remerge pango before gtk+. The problem here is that revdep-rebuild is absolutely clueless when in comes to ordering the rebuilds Try: http://pastebin.ca/raw/383456 Actually emerge -e is being clueless. Until Bug #1343 is fixed, I can't pull the ordering algorithm out of revdep-rebuild. The algorithm is * Get the list of packages that need to be rebuilt * run emerge -e and use the ordering from emerge -e Not using the algorithm actually causes revdep-rebuild to fail more often (i.e just handing portage the list of packages to install). So for now, this is the compromise. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
KiLLeR 718th wrote: Hey everybody, I seem to have troubles installing qmail-1.03-r16, trying to emerge it . . . I hate to be that guy, but why is anyone using an MTA that was last updated in May 1998? Use Postfix (or any other MTA under active development), it's simpler, easier, faster, and has more functionality without jumping through hoops. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:48 -0800, kashani wrote: I hate to be that guy, but why is anyone using an MTA that was last updated in May 1998? Use Postfix (or any other MTA under active development), it's simpler, easier, faster, and has more functionality without jumping through hoops. I could name a few: * Because I've been using for a long time and don't feel like learning another MTA if i don't have to. * I know it pretty well and I *trust* it. * It does everything+ I need it to do. * Is so secure that it hasn't needed an update since May 1998 ;). All those points (except the last, unfortunately) can pretty much be applied to any piece of software I use (bash, python, vim, Gentoo...) -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 10:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:34:57 +, Mick wrote: Since aplay is hard masked, what external player should I use? aplay is not masked, it is part of alsa-utils. Oops, you're right. I am (almost) sure it had been hard masked some time in the past, I remember emerge --sync telling me all about it. Anyway, it seems that playsound now works fine and I have added -arts to my USE flags. While we're at it I might as well share this little sound problem/feature with you: When my laptop boots up the sound is always muted. To kick start it I need to either increase/decrease the volume (Master, or PCM) using alsamixer, or press the dedicated volume hardware buttons on the laptop keyboard. It can get more weird too: If I have launched an application that uses sound directly like e.g. Amarok, then in addition I need to increase the volume to 100% to get sound from both speakers. Otherwise only the RH speaker works. Does this all make any sense to you? -- Regards, Mick pgpKmvj4RV8lT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dll.conf file in portage?
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 13:11, Masood Ahmed wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 01:00:47PM +, Peter Ruskin wrote: It looks like it belongs to sane. The only dll.conf I have is: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 857 01 Oct 2006 11:20 /etc/sane.d/dll.conf If it belongs to sane then what is that file doing in portage tree as said by him rather than in /etc/sane.d ? Thank you both. I also have it in /etc/sane.d/ as slocate tells me: # slocate dll.conf /etc/sane.d/dll.conf However, slocate does not pick up the /var/tmp/portage/dll.conf file - why is that? Meanwhile, I will assume that something got messed up (see corrupted) on my fs. I seem to get quite a few Konqueror crashes when I unmount and remove USB sticks and then try to close it. But that's another story. -- Regards, Mick pgptOMETrOBFM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] net.eth0 startup
I have weird behavior with my net.eth0 service. I don't want it to start up by default, so I did the usual rc-update del net.eth0 default and rc-update del net.eth0 it's not listed as a startup service, but still insists on starting up when my computer starts up. Does anyone know if something changed in how gentoo handles interfaces? -- Samir
Re: [gentoo-user] QMAIL WERD PROBLEMS
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:48 -0800, kashani wrote: I hate to be that guy, but why is anyone using an MTA that was last updated in May 1998? Use Postfix (or any other MTA under active development), it's simpler, easier, faster, and has more functionality without jumping through hoops. I could name a few: * Because I've been using for a long time and don't feel like learning another MTA if i don't have to. * I know it pretty well and I *trust* it. * It does everything+ I need it to do. * Is so secure that it hasn't needed an update since May 1998 ;). All those points (except the last, unfortunately) can pretty much be applied to any piece of software I use (bash, python, vim, Gentoo...) But is it secure after adding the thirty odd patches needed to make qmail a modern MTA? However if you're familiar with it, then yeah stick with what you know though the change to Postfix at least was so painless I wondered why I didn't do it years earlier. For all you new users picking your first MTA: pick something else anything else besides qmail. :-) Please. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 startup
This could be because of some dependency shit. E.g. Apache needs to start up a network interface, or sshd, and such things. On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:34:29 +0100, Samir Faci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have weird behavior with my net.eth0 service. I don't want it to start up by default, so I did the usual rc-update del net.eth0 default and rc-update del net.eth0 it's not listed as a startup service, but still insists on starting up when my computer starts up. Does anyone know if something changed in how gentoo handles interfaces? -- Samir -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dll.conf file in portage?
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:35:38 +, Mick wrote: However, slocate does not pick up the /var/tmp/portage/dll.conf file - why is that? Probably because you have /var/tmp in PRUNEPATHS in /etc/updatedb.conf. This is as it should be, there's no point in wasting time indexing temporary directories. -- Neil Bothwick The gene pool could use a little chlorine. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 startup
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:34:29 -0600, Samir Faci wrote: I don't want it to start up by default, so I did the usual rc-update del net.eth0 default and rc-update del net.eth0 it's not listed as a startup service, but still insists on starting up when my computer starts up. Set RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.* in /etc/conf.d/rc -- Neil Bothwick .sig a .sog of sixpence. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 startup
On 3/6/07, Samir Faci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have weird behavior with my net.eth0 service. I don't want it to start up by default, so I did the usual rc-update del net.eth0 default and rc-update del net.eth0 it's not listed as a startup service, but still insists on starting up when my computer starts up. Does anyone know if something changed in how gentoo handles interfaces? This happens because of a feature called device initiated services. It changed a while back, gmane revealed a topic about this a couple of months ago: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/177287/focus=177289 Check /etc/conf.d/rc, read the comments, you may want to add: RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.* To this file. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mysterious freezes when browsing Internet
During the past few months, I've been bit by sudden total freezes while using Epiphany Konqueror to browse Internet sites. The only way out is to hit the reset button: eg Ctl-Alt-F2 doesn't work. At first, I believed it was a bug in Epiphany, which is good to use, but not well-supported as KDE Firefox. However yesterday, it happened in similar circumstances with Konqueror, which uses quite different libraries rendering. It seems to happen when the browser is downloading images, esp adverts, I simultaneously use the middle mouse button to click or scroll. I may have several news stories downloading in different tabs I middle-click on a link to open another tab or scroll down a list one of the other tabs is still downloading extra images. This is the only situation in which it happens. There are Forum threads covering other situations, which don't apply to me, the only thread which is similar is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-521365-highlight-random+freeze.html which does not offer any helpful advice. There are no bugs answering to 'Epiphany freeze' or 'Konqueror freeze'. I'm using Kernel 2.6.18-gentoo, KDE 3.5.6 , Epiphany 2.16.3 Xorg-x11 7.1 . Otherwise, my system is very stable problem-free. Has anyone else run into this bizarre phenomenon ? Does anyone have useful suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious freezes when browsing Internet
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 21:22, Philip Webb wrote: During the past few months, I've been bit by sudden total freezes while using Epiphany Konqueror to browse Internet sites. The only way out is to hit the reset button: eg Ctl-Alt-F2 doesn't work. At first, I believed it was a bug in Epiphany, which is good to use, but not well-supported as KDE Firefox. However yesterday, it happened in similar circumstances with Konqueror, which uses quite different libraries rendering. It seems to happen when the browser is downloading images, esp adverts, I simultaneously use the middle mouse button to click or scroll. I may have several news stories downloading in different tabs I middle-click on a link to open another tab or scroll down a list one of the other tabs is still downloading extra images. This is the only situation in which it happens. There are Forum threads covering other situations, which don't apply to me, the only thread which is similar is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-521365-highlight-random+freeze.html which does not offer any helpful advice. There are no bugs answering to 'Epiphany freeze' or 'Konqueror freeze'. I'm using Kernel 2.6.18-gentoo, KDE 3.5.6 , Epiphany 2.16.3 Xorg-x11 7.1 . Otherwise, my system is very stable problem-free. Has anyone else run into this bizarre phenomenon ? Does anyone have useful suggestions ? The only time I had suffered similar symptoms to what you are describing (but with different applications) was when I had a bad memory problem. No sooner had I changed the memory module, the freezes were gone. Memtest86 did not show anything and it was only through trial and error that I found the faulty module. Good luck. -- Regards, Mick pgptsrDuhNfmT.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Gentoo weekly newsletter
This is completely unimportant, but I've been wondering about it for a several months. At www.gentoo.org, there are links to the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter. What does the Posted on date mean? There seems to be an average of about 1.5-2 weeks between the posted on date and when it shows up on the web site. To where is the newsletter posted two weeks before it's put up on the web site? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm losing my at hair...did it go to visi.comATLANTIC CITY?? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dll.conf file in portage?
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 20:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:35:38 +, Mick wrote: However, slocate does not pick up the /var/tmp/portage/dll.conf file - why is that? Probably because you have /var/tmp in PRUNEPATHS in /etc/updatedb.conf. This is as it should be, there's no point in wasting time indexing temporary directories. Yes, that was it. I've also noticed that although the typical directory ownership in /var/tmp/portage is portage:portage, there are some dirs which have root:portage; e.g.: = [snip...] drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Mar 20 2006 glib-2.8.5 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Jun 22 2006 glibc-2.3.6-r3 drwxrwxr-x 7 rootportage 208 Sep 6 09:49 gmp-4.2.1 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Mar 17 2006 gnuconfig-20051223 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Mar 11 2006 gnupg-1.4.2.1 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Apr 26 2006 gpg-agent-1.9.19 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Oct 25 2005 graphviz-1.16 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Aug 16 2005 grep-2.5.1-r7 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Jan 22 2006 gst-plugins-0.8.10 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Jan 22 2006 gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 drwxrwxr-x 6 rootportage 208 Nov 2 14:18 gst-plugins-dvdnav-0.8.11 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Jan 25 2006 gst-plugins-flac-0.8.10 drwxr-xr-x 3 portage portage 72 Jan 26 2006 gst-plugins-mad-0.8.10 [snip...] = Should these be so? BTW, my make.conf has userpriv in it. Would it be relevant? -- Regards, Mick pgpm2YzP3hODX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo weekly newsletter
On Dienstag, 6. März 2007, Grant Edwards wrote: This is completely unimportant, but I've been wondering about it for a several months. At www.gentoo.org, there are links to the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter. What does the Posted on date mean? There seems to be an average of about 1.5-2 weeks between the posted on date and when it shows up on the web site. To where is the newsletter posted two weeks before it's put up on the web site? the gentoo weekly news mailing list. You should add yourself to that list. Every gentoo user should be subscribed to that list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo weekly newsletter
On Tuesday 6 March 2007 23:03, Grant Edwards wrote: To where is the newsletter posted two weeks before it's put up on the web site? To the gentoo-gwn mailing list, I suppose.. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo weekly newsletter
Le Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:03:19 + (UTC), Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : This is completely unimportant, but I've been wondering about it for a several months. At www.gentoo.org, there are links to the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter. What does the Posted on date mean? There seems to be an average of about 1.5-2 weeks between the posted on date and when it shows up on the web site. To where is the newsletter posted two weeks before it's put up on the web site? It's supposed to be out every monday I think. But the GWN is late every week. I don't understand why they doesn't want to skip an issue when it's not ready. -- Cordialement, Patrice BOUVARD, Networks Systems Engineer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious freezes when browsing Internet
On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Philip Webb wrote: which does not offer any helpful advice. There are no bugs answering to 'Epiphany freeze' or 'Konqueror freeze'. I'm using Kernel 2.6.18-gentoo, KDE 3.5.6 , Epiphany 2.16.3 Xorg-x11 7.1 . Otherwise, my system is very stable problem-free. I'm experiencing something similar at equally random intervals. I have had maybe 3 of these freezes since the end of December. I am reasonably sure it is not memory, since I have emerge -e world 3-4 times since then (don't ask) and I have never had any unreproducible gcc errors. At one time I had a routine that helped me replicate the problem (now I just avoid it): Go to forums.gentoo.org, grab a thread with massive posts. Click-drag a link quickly in circles. Boom! The last freeze I had was last week, when I had 10 Konqueror windows open with on average 3 tabs each. Rtorrent was running in the background and suddenly my system deadlocked. I could still move the mouse but I couldn't click on anything. I suspect that if I could bother to write down the magic SYSRQ keys, I would be able to do a clean reboot. The program I suspect is Konqueror (probably bad interaction with fglrx), since that is always open. I also always have Kmail, Konversation, Akregator, AmaroK, rtorrent and Kate running, though. AMD Athlon 2500+ Ati X800 fglrx AGP 1 GB ram ~X86 Kernel 2.6.19-gentoo-r4 (waiting for someone to make a stable .20) -- /PA -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious freezes when browsing Internet
Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Philip Webb wrote: which does not offer any helpful advice. There are no bugs answering to 'Epiphany freeze' or 'Konqueror freeze'. I'm using Kernel 2.6.18-gentoo, KDE 3.5.6 , Epiphany 2.16.3 Xorg-x11 7.1 . Otherwise, my system is very stable problem-free. I'm experiencing something similar at equally random intervals. I have had maybe 3 of these freezes since the end of December. I am reasonably sure it is not memory, since I have emerge -e world 3-4 times since then (don't ask) and I have never had any unreproducible gcc errors. At one time I had a routine that helped me replicate the problem (now I just avoid it): Go to forums.gentoo.org, grab a thread with massive posts. Click-drag a link quickly in circles. Boom! The last freeze I had was last week, when I had 10 Konqueror windows open with on average 3 tabs each. Rtorrent was running in the background and suddenly my system deadlocked. I could still move the mouse but I couldn't click on anything. I suspect that if I could bother to write down the magic SYSRQ keys, I would be able to do a clean reboot. The program I suspect is Konqueror (probably bad interaction with fglrx), since that is always open. I also always have Kmail, Konversation, Akregator, AmaroK, rtorrent and Kate running, though. AMD Athlon 2500+ Ati X800 fglrx AGP 1 GB ram ~X86 Kernel 2.6.19-gentoo-r4 (waiting for someone to make a stable .20) Have you tried a 2.6.20 kernel just for grins (taking note of waiting for someone to make a stable .20 )? I experienced various lockups / freezes with 2.6.19 that seem to have left me when I went to 2.6.20. I was getting various timeouts on my ata controller that show in the logs as the source of the freezes. Of course I run ck-sources, so I don't know if the problem existed with the kernel itself or the ck patches. My freezes would occur in firefox mostly of course I am almost always browsing the Internet for something. Of course, I just joined the gentoo-user mailing list today so forgive me if this was already mentioned. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo weekly newsletter
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 22:11, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Dienstag, 6. März 2007, Grant Edwards wrote: This is completely unimportant, but I've been wondering about it for a several months. At www.gentoo.org, there are links to the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter. What does the Posted on date mean? There seems to be an average of about 1.5-2 weeks between the posted on date and when it shows up on the web site. To where is the newsletter posted two weeks before it's put up on the web site? the gentoo weekly news mailing list. You should add yourself to that list. Every gentoo user should be subscribed to that list. Yes, including me. ;-) However, I have not been able to subscribe to it despite trying for a number of times. Am I alone in this problem? -- Regards, Mick pgpAojvl9JcUa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious freezes when browsing Internet
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:22:24 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: The only way out is to hit the reset button: eg Ctl-Alt-F2 doesn't work. If you have MAGIC_SYSREQ enabled in your kernel config, you can do a clean reboot fro the majority of lockups by holding Alt and SysRq and pressing S, U and B in sequence, which respectively sync your drives, unmount them (and remount read-only) and reboot. It's a lot more friendly to your filesystems than hitting the reset button and should work unless the kernel has crashed. As for the cause, faulty memory has already been mentioned and I would go along with that. The fact that it happens when you have several sessions running, and thus working memory harder, adds weight to the likelihood of this. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 24: New classic signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo weekly newsletter
On Dienstag, 6. März 2007, Mick wrote: the gentoo weekly news mailing list. You should add yourself to that list. Every gentoo user should be subscribed to that list. Yes, including me. ;-) However, I have not been able to subscribe to it despite trying for a number of times. Am I alone in this problem? Well, I had no problems to subscribe - 4 years ago ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious freezes when browsing Internet
On Mittwoch, 7. März 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:22:24 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: The only way out is to hit the reset button: eg Ctl-Alt-F2 doesn't work. If you have MAGIC_SYSREQ enabled in your kernel config, you can do a clean reboot fro the majority of lockups by holding Alt and SysRq and pressing S, U and B in sequence, which respectively sync your drives, unmount them (and remount read-only) and reboot. but U will not work, when processes are hogging the harddisk. So start with E (terminate all processes), I (Kill all processes), and then S, U, B. Or even better, start with R and K. Sometimes you can wrestle control from X that way and get your box back into a working state, without rebooting. And the best thing - there is even a builtin help -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Synce and gentoo : crash RAPI driver
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 09:17 +0100, Arnaud FARINE wrote: OK!! Hans, All is working since saturday ;-) Now my problem is to synchronize Kontact with my app. I follows instruction given by Synce Wiki and OpenSync Web site...(3 lines on the web site!!)But it doesn't sync. = If you have a link to explain better the process, think to me ;-) One note : le delay between the moment where I connect my PDA and the moment where the odccm reconizes it it's very long, but it isn't a real problem ;-) you'll probably get more help on the synce ml or synce-windowsmobile5 ml. There are few synce experts, and that's where they all seem to be :) HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au A committee is a group that keeps the minutes and loses hours. -- Milton Berle -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] UPS compatible to Gentoo
* Marco Fabbri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to buy a UPS for my gentoo-box. I need to be sure I can make the shutdown in case of black out. Could you suggest me a full compatible UPS? Any link is welcome. http://www.networkupstools.org/compat/stable.html Timo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emacs-cvs-22.0.95-r1 and color settings
Hi everybody, I've just updated to emacs-cvs-22.0.95-r1 and now some color settings (e.g. background) aren't working. When I test with an older version it works perfectly. This is the code I use: (if window-system (progn (color-theme-initialize) (color-theme-vim-colors) (setq initial-frame-alist '( (border-color . #4e3832) (foreground-color . grey10) (background-color . ivory2) (active-alpha . 0.875) (inactive-alpha . 0.75) (font . -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1) (top . 20) (left . 0) (width . 100) (height . 40)) ) (setq default-frame-alist '( (border-color . #4e3832) (foreground-color . grey10) (background-color . ivory2) (active-alpha . 0.875) (inactive-alpha . 0.75) (font . -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1) (top . 20) (left . 0) (width . 100) (height . 40)) ))) Why it doesn't work with this specific version? Best regards -- Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] {OT} courier-imap folders
Can anyone tell me what these folders are for in my .maildir folder? courierimapuiddb courierimapsubscribed courierimapkeywords courierimaphieracl I'm wondering if they're for the courier webmail client I'm not using. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Airlink101 usb2 ethernet - ASIX Chip
Anyone here has this particular usb ethenet? Got it cheap in Fry's (USD2.99) Been giving me headache. usbnet gets loaded, but the connection see-saws between getting 30mbps to 0mbps (transferring a large file) it makes my nfs/cifs shares goes bonkers. Any good experiences with these Airlink parts? (they recently have airlink gigabit pci adapters going for USD5.99) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Dale wrote: I also went diggin in the groups file, there is a dialout group in there that *should* address this. I mentioned in a early reply that this was likely a security thing. Your link seems to show that it is that. What I can't figure out is why no one warned us? I only use Linux and only have one puter that connects to the net so if I didn't know to check the permissions of the modem, I could have been stuck. Plus, I did get that error about my UPS. That was really helpful there. It actually showed me the permissions were wrong and I noticed they were changed from what they used to be. I also notice there is no mention of the uucp group in the link. It does mention using the group ppp but not uucp. Anyway, I plan to watch those udev config updates closer next time. They have always worked before but I learned that *may* not always be true. Thanks for the info. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 OK. Here's my update. I changed the config file, the 50-udev.rules file, back to the way it was when it was updated. I then added myself to the uucp group and rebooted. Well, my UPS didn't like that one bit. So I added nut to the uucp group too. Then I rebooted again. Everything *appears* to be working fine. Sorry for all the rebooting but they are serial ports. Why did I decide to go and do all this right now. Here is the funny part. Kppp could access the modem, it could tell it to dial out, it could connect, even get the DNS servers, but it was NOT going to send data or accept data like it should. It was like spitting on a four alarm fire. It would send some but it was just a little bit at a time. Kopete worked fine though. Go figure. All that was run as a normal user. To test that this was permission related, I opened a root Konsole and used wvdial to connect with. The pages loaded like they should when connected that way. I knew then it was either Kppp or I still had some lingering permission issues. I suspected the later. Lesson of all this, watch those udev updates. They may work 99% of the time but that 1% can drive you nuts. All this because my power went out for about 2 hours. Maybe I need a bigger UPS. ;-) Thanks for all the help. Dale :D :D :D :D :D -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Dale wrote: OK. Here's my update. I changed the config file, the 50-udev.rules file, back to the way it was when it was updated. I then added myself to the uucp group and rebooted. Well, my UPS didn't like that one bit. So I added nut to the uucp group too. Then I rebooted again. Everything *appears* to be working fine. Sorry for all the rebooting but they are serial ports. Why did I decide to go and do all this right now. Here is the funny part. Kppp could access the modem, it could tell it to dial out, it could connect, even get the DNS servers, but it was NOT going to send data or accept data like it should. It was like spitting on a four alarm fire. It would send some but it was just a little bit at a time. Kopete worked fine though. Go figure. All that was run as a normal user. To test that this was permission related, I opened a root Konsole and used wvdial to connect with. The pages loaded like they should when connected that way. I knew then it was either Kppp or I still had some lingering permission issues. I suspected the later. Lesson of all this, watch those udev updates. They may work 99% of the time but that 1% can drive you nuts. All this because my power went out for about 2 hours. Maybe I need a bigger UPS. ;-) Thanks for all the help. Dale :D :D :D :D :D -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 One more little update. After a while I starting seeing the same thing again. I then remerged Kppp and it has been working for a while now. I'm not sure what change that would have made though. Just thought I would mention it in case someone else has the same issue. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] Synce and gentoo : crash RAPI driver
On 3/7/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 09:17 +0100, Arnaud FARINE wrote: OK!! Hans, All is working since saturday ;-) Now my problem is to synchronize Kontact with my app. I follows instruction given by Synce Wiki and OpenSync Web site...(3 lines on the web site!!)But it doesn't sync. = If you have a link to explain better the process, think to me ;-) One note : le delay between the moment where I connect my PDA and the moment where the odccm reconizes it it's very long, but it isn't a real problem ;-) you'll probably get more help on the synce ml or synce-windowsmobile5 ml. There are few synce experts, and that's where they all seem to be :) HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au A committee is a group that keeps the minutes and loses hours. -- Milton Berle -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I've post a message to the Sourceforge forum. I hope that I'll obtain information. The Synce ML seems out! Isn't it ? Best regards, Arnaud -- Arnaud FARINE
