[gentoo-user] libmad sound artifacts

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

Hi; sorry to crosspost, but I know for a fact that gentoo-amd64 has a
much lower traffic than gentoo-user.

Some weeks ago I noticed serious artifacts in the sound quality of my
desktop machine, when playing MP3's with Rhythmbox. It actually sounds
like a hardware problem; a speaker cable which is shorting, or a
speaker with a broken diaphragm, so at first I though my hardware was
broken.

But then I noticed that mpg123 and MPlayer don't have the artifacts,
with the same MP3's, so then I shifted the blame to GStreamer, because
Totem has also the problem. Finally, I was able to locate the problem:
it's libmad, because madplay have the artifacts too.

Everything that uses libmad sounds like crap, and I've recompiled the
library with any option that it offers, but to no avail: the artifacts
are still there (I can make them WORSE, with the default fixed point
math). I see bug reports that *seems* to be similar, but for ppc and
sparc, and those solutions didn't work for me.

Other thing: if I decode the MP3 to a WAV file with madplay
--output=wave:file.wav, the artifacts disappear.

Anyone has *any* idea of what can I do? I'm not using normal speakers;
I'm using an old stereo system, plugging the output from my sound card
to the video input of the stereo. But it sounds really nice if I'm not
using libmad.

Any help will be *really* appreciated.
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[gentoo-user] permission denied (13)

[Kaushal Shriyan]

I am running the command

/usr/bin/rsync -avO /var/lib/mysql [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/ >
/tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log 2>&1

I am getting the below error in the log file

mysql/
rsync: failed to set permissions on "/var/lib/mysql": Operation not
permitted (1)
rsync: failed to open "/var/lib/mysql/ib_logfile0", continuing: Permission
denied (13)
mysql/ib_logfile0
rsync: failed to open "/var/lib/mysql/ib_logfile1", continuing: Permission
denied (13)
mysql/ib_logfile1
rsync: failed to open "/var/lib/mysql/ibdata1", continuing: Permission
denied (13)
mysql/ibdata1
rsync: failed to open "/var/lib/mysql/master.info", continuing: Permission
denied (13)
mysql/master.info
rsync: failed to open "/var/lib/mysql/SCHEDULER/ScheduleTasks.MYD",
continuing: Permission denied (13)

I set the setfacl command using the below command for the user ssp

sudo setfacl -R -m g:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
sudo setfacl -R -m u:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql

Am i missing any thing

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal

Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Chuanwen Wu]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Ricardo Saffi Marques
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sergey Kobzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > uvesafb works nice.
>
> Can anyone help me with the following?
> Do any of you know how to make uvesafb (that replaces the old vesafb-tng)
> set to a pre-defined resolution?
May be you want this guide  http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/



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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:09:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I can't remember a single ethernet device in the last several years
> that wasn't fully supported and JustWorked(tm) straight out the box on
> any old arb Linux system. 

When I bought my Asus P5B-E board last year, the drivers for the Attansic
L1 gigabit NIC hadn't made it into the kernel and no live CD would enable
it. I ended up putting a spare PCI NIC in to install Gentoo, then
patching the kernel to enable the on-board one.

It appeared in the next kernel release, so is not problem now, but that
was less than a year ago.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ATX PS recommendation

[Dale]

Thierry de Coulon wrote:

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
  

Hi group,

I bought a Coolmax PS which was touted as the latest
and greatest and then it died. When I opened it up I
found the output crowded with puffy, oozing
electrolytic caps, most made by Fuhjyyu. A search for
Fuhjyyu on Google revealed that I'm not alone.

Can somebody recommend a *reliable*, up-to-date PS,



=400W with a 120mm fan?
  

Maxim



Hi,

I've used several LC6550 "Super Silent" PS without any problem (with AMD 
Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 X2 processors). 550W and 120mm fan.


Thierry

  


I just had a Coolmax CP-500T to burn out.  I blew the dust out and some 
knot head left a rubber band in it and it got caught up in my fan.  We 
all know what happened about 10 minutes later.  Thing did run a while 
with 0 cooling tho.  I run folding with three hard drives spinning so it 
had a good load on it. 

I did like the power supply tho.  It had a 120mm fan and was real 
quiet.  I couldn't hear it over the other noise in the case.  I do have 
several other fans running tho, including the CPU which runs pretty good 
too.


This may help some.  Lots of links too.  
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=458204


We feel your pain.  :-( 


Dale

:-)  :-) 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008, ionut cucu wrote:
> > > The SLI capability is not important as having ethernet or sound
> > > supported on linux.
>
> Should you follow the path of the manual you'll find interesting
> links about sound cards support on linux, as for ethernet, if you
> dan;t have drivers from linux you can use the windows ones(this is
> true for ethernet to right?)

I can't remember a single ethernet device in the last several years that 
wasn't fully supported and JustWorked(tm) straight out the box on any 
old arb Linux system. Sometimes I had hassles with FibreChannel and 
related technologies while it was relatively new, but a quick 
comparison with the same hardware running RedHat sorted that out in a 
jiffy. Usually I have stuff that genuinely just worked while the 
windows colleagues battled like mad for weeks to find suitable 
drivers ;-)

The thing you are referring to is ndiswrapper, which is useful for 
wireless devices. I dunno if it copes with ethernet too, but seeing as 
I know of no case in the world where it was necessary it's a bit of a 
moot point

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ATX PS recommendation

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 25. März 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I bought a Coolmax PS which was touted as the latest
> and greatest and then it died. When I opened it up I
> found the output crowded with puffy, oozing
> electrolytic caps, most made by Fuhjyyu. A search for
> Fuhjyyu on Google revealed that I'm not alone.
>
> Can somebody recommend a *reliable*, up-to-date PS,
>
> >=400W with a 120mm fan?

enermax?

tomshardware tests PSUs regularly - and enermax are the only ones who never 
failed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[ionut cucu]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:17:17 +0200
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Stay away from NVidia. Good performing cards, but their Linux support
> is atrocious (and that's being kind to them)
> 
> ATI are not much better but at least they make something of an effort
> to publish some specs.
> 
> Intell cards are the best supported and the worst performing I'm
> afraid
I'm afraid I must step in here a little:
never had I had any trouble with 3d accel with my small 6200TC, "on
contraire": updateing the drivers just got the small rat faster and
faster. There were some trouble with mm kernel, but one shouldn't get
any hopes with 3d and mm. And I'm talking about a cheap video-card here
that can play 3d games in hosted os. 
ATI on the other hand with all it's specs released, has not convinced
me. I had a lot more trouble with it as an experienced gentooer than I
had with nvidia as a newbe. ATI-s floss drivers don't support all
chips, the official ones have trouble supporting new APIs, cedega
issues and so on and so forth. Even so I think you can get the job done
but with much more time/effort consumed than one would expect. 

> > but i 
> > am very confused about the motherboard. The cheapest shop vendor
> > only have asus motherboard so i don't have much choice.
> > - Asus P5E X38 DDR2 for 189 €
> > - Asus P5K/pro iP35 for 114 €
> > - Asus P5N32-E/SLI 680i for 199€
> > - Asus P5N-T dlx 780i 232€
I to am a proud owner of and Asus MB, changed it twice wile in
warranty, because the ethernet burned out and some chip-fan decided to
take a vacation, but as for compatibility/performance i have only good
words for it
> Look further afield. Don't limit yourself to just one shop based on 
> price. The price difference between motherboards isn't that great
> when compared to the cost of an entire box, and the wrong decision
> can be very painful in the future
Aint all that bad. My brother's MSI botherbord with highly unstable
cooling system and a burned USB hub(that was a cool party) still gets
him 8 days uptime
> > Someone have one of those cards or know a good site with information
> > about linux compatibility for those cards?
Your google-fu will help you here. The force is strong within you
> > The SLI capability is not important as having ethernet or sound
> > supported on linux.
Should you follow the path of the manual you'll find interesting links
about sound cards support on linux, as for ethernet, if you dan;t have
drivers from linux you can use the windows ones(this is true for
ethernet to right?)
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Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Ricardo Saffi Marques]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Ian Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i always thought vga= was only used by the old vesafb driver
> i use video=uvesafb:1024x768-32
> i cant get any wide screen modes to work at all, anybody else know how??


Nice, new thoughts being added to the discussion. That's good!! Let's keep
the brainstorm. :-)
Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Ian Lee]

Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Alexander Meinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Try to determine possible resolutions by typing "hwinfo
--framebuffer". Use the
hex code 0x... and put it as kernel parameter in your grub.conf.


Okay, *that* I didn't know. :-)
I do know 1440x900 is a supported resolution on my machines since it's 
the native resolution of their screen's.
 


For 1400x1050 with kernel 2.6.24-r3 I am using the following lines:
title Gentoo GNU/Linux (gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r3)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r3 root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x344


So after the change from the vesafb-tng to the actual uvesafb on the 
kernel, it actually IS necessary to use the "vga=something" trick on the 
boot line, then?

I'll do it and tell the results.

Thanks a lot, Alexander!

Best regards,

Saffi

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i always thought vga= was only used by the old vesafb driver
i use video=uvesafb:1024x768-32
i cant get any wide screen modes to work at all, anybody else know how??
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[gentoo-user] Nowell disconnects

[Lukáš Oliva]

Hi,
I need to connect Nowell Netware discs time to time. I found out how
to do it and I have it working in /etc/fstab with line

/ /mnt/server ncp defaults,ipserver=,mode=700,uid=myuser,gid=myuser,owner=myuser,volume=USR,signature=3,passwdfile=/home/myusr/.passwd,multiple,noauto

My problem is that after two minutes of inactive connection the
connection does not work while it stays mounted (in mount).
  I would be gratefull if someone could say how not to solve it.

  Lukas
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: No sound - "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" (was: rhythmbox plays silently)

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Andrey Falko  gmail.com> writes:
> > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Schmarck
> > >  habmalnefrage.de> wrote:
> >
> > There's another problem: When I start gnome-volume-control, I get:
> >
> >   No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
> >
> > Hmm...
>
> [...]
>
> > > Also does
> > > rhythmbox use alsa or oss?
> >
> > I suppose alsa - I set USE=-oss in make.conf. How do I check?
> > gst-plugins-alsa is NOT installed.
>
> That's it!
>
> On my new system, I'm using Xfce; on other systems I used to use
> Gnome. I suppose Gnome pulls in gst-plugins-meta which may pull in
> gst-plugins-alsa. Xfce doesn't do that (of course).
>
> After installing gst-plugins-meta (and gst-plugins-alsa), I'm able
> to hear something.
>
> Nice!
>
> Andrey, thanks for your suggestions - they made me solve the problem.

Something's wrong there:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends -a gst-plugins-alsa
[ Searching for packages depending on gst-plugins-alsa... ]
media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.14 (alsa? 
>=media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10)
media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10 (alsa? 
>=media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10)
media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r1 (alsa? 
>=media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends -a gst-plugins-meta
[ Searching for packages depending on gst-plugins-meta... ]
gnome-base/control-center-2.20.3 (media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta:0.10)
media-video/totem-2.22.0 (>=media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r1)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends -a gst-plugins-base
[ Searching for packages depending on gst-plugins-base... ]

media-sound/rhythmbox-0.10.1-r1 (>=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10)
media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.2-r1 (>=media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.11)


Looking into ebuilds, it would appear that gst-plugins-meta used to have 
alsa and oss USE flags. The most current version doesn't, so you either 
have to emerge gst-plugins-alsa manually or emerge gst-plugins-meta to 
get alsa support. Which seems really odd as the vast majority of users 
will have alsa or oss.

Perhaps you could file a feature request at b.g.o. to get the old 
behaviour back. It seems entirely reasonable to me that rhythmbox 
should DEPENDs on gst-plugins-base which should conditionally DEPEND 
on -alsa or -oss (or other sound systems). Unless rhythmbox can serve 
up over the network that is, in which case local hardware support might 
not be needed.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4-r1

[Wael Nasreddine]

This One Time, at Band Camp, Rodolphe Rocca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Tue, 
Mar 25, 2008 at 10:20:31PM +0100:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:33:22 +0100
> Wael Nasreddine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Hello list :)

> > I'm having a problem compiling splashutils, anyone else having the
> > same problem ??


> The splashutils-1.5.4-r1 ebuild has been updated to cope with recent API 
> breakage in the new baselayout-2.0/openrc.

> The pb is baselayout 2.0 is still masked and not keyworded.

> So you can choose between using splashutils < 1.5.4-r1 or merging 
> baselayout-2.0.

> I personally migrated from baselayout 2.0 beta to the final 2.0.0 and
> everything is fine on my side.
I already have baselayout installed:

-- CUT
$ paludis -q sys-apps/baselayout sys-apps/openrc
* sys-apps/baselayout
gentoo:  1.11.15-r3 1.12.10-r5 1.12.11 1.12.11.1 
2.0.0_rc6-r1 2.0.0 {:0}
installed:   2.0.0* {:0}
Description: Filesystem baselayout and init scripts
Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/
Relevant USE flags:  (-build)
License: GPL-2
Installed time:  Tue Mar 25 15:40:10 2008
Source repository:   gentoo
Installed using: paludis-0.26.0_alpha13

* sys-apps/openrc
gentoo:   {:0}
installed:   * {:0}
Description: OpenRC manages the services, startup and shutdown 
of a host
Homepage:http://roy.marples.name/openrc
Relevant USE flags:  (-debug) (-kernel_FreeBSD) (kernel_linux) 
(ncurses) (pam) (-static) (unicode)
License: BSD-2
Installed time:  Tue Mar 25 06:33:55 2008
Source repository:   gentoo
Installed using: paludis-0.26.0_alpha12
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rhythmbox plays silently

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> > I'll crawl back into my KDE and e17 fanboy
> > clubhouse and shut up now.
>
> It would've been better if you would've just shut up right
> from the beginning - or simply post helpful comments. The
> latter would be the preferred option, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Michael
>
> PS: Does anyone know if Gmane features a troll filter?

touchy, touchy. It's a joke, something humans do on slow news days like 
today. I'm very sorry you didn't appreciate it, but life's like that 
sometimes. It's also rather common on this list, probably because it 
relieves the tedium of the work we do. Here's what I suggest:

go outside, look at the big orange ball in the sky, take a deep breath 
and count to 10. Then realise that humans are quirky, gentoo users even 
more so. If you then re-read my original, and admittedly value-less 
post with questionable humour, you will see that no sane rational 
person should ever have taken it seriously.

Now, onto your actual problem. It is exceptionally hard to even attempt 
to provide a solution unless someone else fixed the exact same problem 
before, as you have not provided any configuration at all and very 
little useful information. Hence your post was as much noise as mine 
was. Nonetheless I shall try, so please provide the following:

1. the output of lspci as it relates to audio so we can see what 
hardware you have
2. What engine does rhythmbox use? gstreamer? If so, do other gstreamer 
apps work correctly on your box?
3. With what options did you compile rhythmbox and gstreamer (if 
applicable)?
4. Lastly, this is out on left field, please confirm that rhythmbox is 
indeed using alsa and not oss

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ATX PS recommendation

[Thierry de Coulon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I bought a Coolmax PS which was touted as the latest
> and greatest and then it died. When I opened it up I
> found the output crowded with puffy, oozing
> electrolytic caps, most made by Fuhjyyu. A search for
> Fuhjyyu on Google revealed that I'm not alone.
>
> Can somebody recommend a *reliable*, up-to-date PS,
>
> >=400W with a 120mm fan?
>
> Maxim

Hi,

I've used several LC6550 "Super Silent" PS without any problem (with AMD 
Athlon 64 and AMD Athlon 64 X2 processors). 550W and 120mm fan.

Thierry

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[gentoo-user] Re: Recovering root password

[Michael Schmarck]

Hi.

Grant  gmail.com> writes:

> >  > Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about
> >  > be unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance
> >  > considerations?
> >
> >  Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody
> >  has physical access to them.

I'd rather say: "... so that only trusted people have ...". But besides
this nitpick, I agree with you.

> 
> Sounds like co-location right?

No. Sounds like "build your own data center" :)

>  I just have a hosted dedicated
> machine.  

This means that you've got to trust the people hosting your
environment. If you don't, then move away! You know, they
could "easily"  install a traffic sniffers and whatnot.

> The thing that's always kept me from co-locating is hardware
> failure.  That would be a "my problem" in a co-located environment
> rather than a "their problem" right?

Depends on your contract, but generally speaking, you're right, yes.

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4-r1

[Rodolphe Rocca]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:33:22 +0100
Wael Nasreddine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello list :)
> 
> I'm having a problem compiling splashutils, anyone else having the
> same problem ??
> 

The splashutils-1.5.4-r1 ebuild has been updated to cope with recent API 
breakage in the new baselayout-2.0/openrc.

The pb is baselayout 2.0 is still masked and not keyworded.

So you can choose between using splashutils < 1.5.4-r1 or merging 
baselayout-2.0.

I personally migrated from baselayout 2.0 beta to the final 2.0.0 and
everything is fine on my side.
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[gentoo-user] Re: rhythmbox plays silently

[Michael Schmarck]

Alan McKinnon  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> > Good evening!
> >
> > I've got a problem with media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.2-r1 on
> > my new ~x86 system. When I play an MP3 file, I see that rb
> > progresses and when I turn on visualization, I see the sound.
> > But I hear nothing at all :/
> >
> > Any ideas about why that's so?
> >
> > The volume slider in rb is all the way up. Also all the sliders
> > in the mixer are all up. And when I use a different player,
> > like Amarok, VLC or MPlayer, I hear sound when I play the song
> > that's silent in Rhythmbox. This happens with all the songs
> > I tried.
> >
> > Well - what to do?
> 
> Easy.
> 
> Don't use rhythmbox. Don't use Gnome.

Why's that? Any particular reason why I should not use good
programs?

> Do use KDE.

Most certainly not.

> Do use Amarok. Do use mplayer.

If it makes sense.

> *especially* do use mplayer.

Nope. Not for that task. You know, unlike you, I'm more into
using tools that are made for a task.

> I know this isn't what you want to hear.

Exactly. I wanted to hear helpful comments.

> I just couldn't resist an open 
> invitation to dig at Gnome.

Oh, you mean you couldn't resist an open invitation to make
yourself look like a fool? You were quite successul in doing
so, I've gotta say, by replying without knowing an answer - or
did you just wanted to look like a moron?

Well - "mission accomplished", as they say.

> I'll crawl back into my KDE and e17 fanboy 
> clubhouse and shut up now.

It would've been better if you would've just shut up right
from the beginning - or simply post helpful comments. The
latter would be the preferred option, as far as I'm concerned.

Michael

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[gentoo-user] [OT] ATX PS recommendation

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,

I bought a Coolmax PS which was touted as the latest
and greatest and then it died. When I opened it up I
found the output crowded with puffy, oozing
electrolytic caps, most made by Fuhjyyu. A search for
Fuhjyyu on Google revealed that I'm not alone.

Can somebody recommend a *reliable*, up-to-date PS,
>=400W with a 120mm fan?

Maxim


  

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome: No sound - "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" (was: rhythmbox plays silently)

[Michael Schmarck]

I wrote:

> Andrey Falko  gmail.com> writes:
> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Schmarck
> >  habmalnefrage.de> wrote:

> There's another problem: When I start gnome-volume-control, I get:
> 
>   No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
> 
> Hmm...
[...]
> > Also does
> > rhythmbox use alsa or oss?
> 
> I suppose alsa - I set USE=-oss in make.conf. How do I check?
> gst-plugins-alsa is NOT installed.

That's it!

On my new system, I'm using Xfce; on other systems I used to use
Gnome. I suppose Gnome pulls in gst-plugins-meta which may pull in
gst-plugins-alsa. Xfce doesn't do that (of course).

After installing gst-plugins-meta (and gst-plugins-alsa), I'm able
to hear something.

Nice!

Andrey, thanks for your suggestions - they made me solve the problem.

Have a nice evening,
Michael

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[gentoo-user] Gnome: No sound - "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" (was: rhythmbox plays silently)

[Michael Schmarck]

Hello.

Andrey Falko  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Schmarck
>  habmalnefrage.de> wrote:
> > Good evening!
> >
> >  I've got a problem with media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.2-r1 on
> >  my new ~x86 system. When I play an MP3 file, I see that rb
> >  progresses and when I turn on visualization, I see the sound.
> >  But I hear nothing at all :/
> >
> >  Any ideas about why that's so?
> >
> >  The volume slider in rb is all the way up. Also all the sliders
> >  in the mixer are all up. And when I use a different player,
> >  like Amarok, VLC or MPlayer, I hear sound when I play the song
> >  that's silent in Rhythmbox. This happens with all the songs
> >  I tried.
> >
> >  Well - what to do?
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >  Michael
> >
> Do you play sound with something else before running rhythmbox? 

I don't quite understand - as I said, when I use something else,
like Mplayer, Xine or Amarok, I hear something. With Rhythmbox,
and also Totem as I just noticed, I hear nothing.

There's another problem: When I start gnome-volume-control, I get:

  No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found

Hmm...

> What
> happens when you run rhythmbox after restarting alsa? 

You mean after doing /etc/init.d/alsasound restart? Nothing
special happens - still beautiful silence :)

> Also does
> rhythmbox use alsa or oss?

I suppose alsa - I set USE=-oss in make.conf. How do I check?
gst-plugins-alsa is NOT installed.

Thanks so far,
Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Ricardo Saffi Marques]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Alexander Meinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try to determine possible resolutions by typing "hwinfo --framebuffer".
> Use the
> hex code 0x... and put it as kernel parameter in your grub.conf.


Okay, *that* I didn't know. :-)
I do know 1440x900 is a supported resolution on my machines since it's the
native resolution of their screen's.


> For 1400x1050 with kernel 2.6.24-r3 I am using the following lines:
> title Gentoo GNU/Linux (gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r3)
> root (hd0,1)
> kernel /gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r3 root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x344


So after the change from the vesafb-tng to the actual uvesafb on the kernel,
it actually IS necessary to use the "vga=something" trick on the boot line,
then?
I'll do it and tell the results.

Thanks a lot, Alexander!

Best regards,

Saffi

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Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Alexander Meinke]

Ale wrote:

2008/3/25, Alexander Meinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
*
*

Are you guys using  uvesafb in the latest gentoo sources kernel? because 
i dont have the option to choose this one..i am using vesa


Yes I am using gentoo-sources. I think since kernel 2.6.23 (or maybe 2.6.24) 
there is only uvesafb - nothing else to choose. uvesafb replaced vesafb-tng.



Greets,

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Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Ale]

2008/3/25, Alexander Meinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:*
*

Are you guys using  uvesafb in the latest gentoo sources kernel? because i
dont have the option to choose this one..i am using vesa

Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Alexander Meinke]

Hi.

Try to determine possible resolutions by typing "hwinfo --framebuffer". Use the 
hex code 0x... and put it as kernel parameter in your grub.conf.


For 1400x1050 with kernel 2.6.24-r3 I am using the following lines:

title Gentoo GNU/Linux (gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r3)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r3 root=/dev/sda5 vga=0x344


Regards,

acm.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Wael Nasreddine]

This One Time, at Band Camp, Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Tue, 
Mar 25, 2008 at 07:02:59PM +0100:

> I use LUKS encrypted logical volumes. Root fs is encrypted with a password,
> all other volumes are encrypted with a keyfile located on /.
Why not encrypt a big fat partition and then have an LVM array over it
for all your partitions including swap ?? Suspend2 will work with this
setup just in case you are wondering.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Wael Nasreddine]

This One Time, at Band Camp, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Tue, Mar 25, 
2008 at 05:23:00PM +:
> > That's why I have my entire installation over a DM-CRYPT ( LUKS
> > encrypted partition... ), including swaps and storage ( LVM over
> > DM-CRYPT actually), this way even if someone had a physical access to
> > my laptop, both GRUB and LiveCD approach would be useless...

> I've thought about going for this . . . and then backpedaled once more.  Every
> time I had a fs problem I have managed to recover to this date without much
> trouble.  Vanilla primary and extended partitions seem to be straight forward
> to access with any LiveCD.  To be honest even when I had to frig about with
> LVM I managed to recover without loss of data (more out of luck than skill I
> suspect).  The thought however, that I may lose my private key (never say
> never), or lose a drive and need to access my data pronto from a back up
> makes me somewhat nervous.  Should I be more brave that this?
Well it depends... First of all you should know that almost every LiveCD
now include a cryptsetup/lvm implementation, Gentoo does, Ubuntu does
( not as is though you should apt-get cryptsetyp, AFAIK lvm already
installed), so recovering data would not be that hard if you can open
the partition... As for loosing the key, that's easy too, here's what
I do: I create a small file from /dev/urandom and I use it as pass key
SLOT, and store it somewhere safe, so if and when I forget all of the
passwords I have, I use this key, it is safe.

Anyway as I said above it actually depends, using dm-crypt will lower
the performance of your machine which actually make sense since the
data are encrypted before they are written to the disk (AFAIK I'm not
really sure how it handles I/O operations, but I'm sure that writing a
huge file to your HDD will result in a lot of CPU usage of the process
'kcryptd'), but using dm-crypt is very very secure, I use it because
my laptop is with me every day when I go to the university so I need
this kind of security... On the other hand if you don't need
encryption, maybe you should stick with LVM... (LVM is a must checkout
my partitions below, I love it...)

- CUT
# lvdisplay -C
  LV  VG Attr   LSize   Origin Snap%  Move Log Copy%  Convert
  gentoo-opt  system -wi-ao   1.00G
  gentoo-overlays system -wi-ao   1.00G
  gentoo-root system -wi-ao 500.00M
  gentoo-usr  system -wi-ao   5.00G
  gentoo-var  system -wi-ao 500.00M
  homesystem -wi-ao  15.00G
  storage system -wi-ao  50.66G
  suspend-swapsystem -wi-a-   1.00G
  swapsystem -wi-ao   2.00G
  tmp system -wi-ao 500.00M
  ubuntu-opt  system -wi-ao   1.00G
  ubuntu-root system -wi-ao 500.00M
  ubuntu-usr  system -wi-ao   3.50G
  ubuntu-var  system -wi-ao 500.00M
  var-tmp system -wi-ao 100.00M
- CUT

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Re: [gentoo-user] rhythmbox plays silently

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> Good evening!
>
> I've got a problem with media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.2-r1 on
> my new ~x86 system. When I play an MP3 file, I see that rb
> progresses and when I turn on visualization, I see the sound.
> But I hear nothing at all :/
>
> Any ideas about why that's so?
>
> The volume slider in rb is all the way up. Also all the sliders
> in the mixer are all up. And when I use a different player,
> like Amarok, VLC or MPlayer, I hear sound when I play the song
> that's silent in Rhythmbox. This happens with all the songs
> I tried.
>
> Well - what to do?

Easy.

Don't use rhythmbox. Don't use Gnome.
Do use KDE. Do use Amarok. Do use mplayer.

*especially* do use mplayer.

I know this isn't what you want to hear. I just couldn't resist an open 
invitation to dig at Gnome. I'll crawl back into my KDE and e17 fanboy 
clubhouse and shut up now.



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Re: [gentoo-user] rhythmbox plays silently

[Andrey Falko]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Schmarck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good evening!
>
>  I've got a problem with media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.2-r1 on
>  my new ~x86 system. When I play an MP3 file, I see that rb
>  progresses and when I turn on visualization, I see the sound.
>  But I hear nothing at all :/
>
>  Any ideas about why that's so?
>
>  The volume slider in rb is all the way up. Also all the sliders
>  in the mixer are all up. And when I use a different player,
>  like Amarok, VLC or MPlayer, I hear sound when I play the song
>  that's silent in Rhythmbox. This happens with all the songs
>  I tried.
>
>  Well - what to do?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Michael
>
Do you play sound with something else before running rhythmbox? What
happens when you run rhythmbox after restarting alsa? Also does
rhythmbox use alsa or oss?
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[gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Ricardo Saffi Marques]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sergey Kobzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> uvesafb works nice.


Can anyone help me with the following?
Do any of you know how to make uvesafb (that replaces the old vesafb-tng)
set to a pre-defined resolution?
What I mean is that with vesafb-tng I used to set like: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as 
fb
settings and then, during boot, while kernel was loading, when it passed
through that "instruction", it would start using the console with those fb
settings and the penguins on the top. Then the penguins disappear and I had
a great text console @ 1440x900.
I remeber putting the exact string [EMAIL PROTECTED] when building my kernel on
the vesafb page. Now with uvesafb I don't get that option and my text
console has a horrible resolution. A simple "lspci" will generate text long
enough for a line to break.
Anyone?

Regards,

Saffi

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Mick]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> This One Time, at Band Camp, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, 
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:03:29AM +0100:
> > >  But you can boot from a LiveCD, mount your harddrive, chroot and then
> > >  give root another password.
> >
> > But then, conventional passwords are as useless. One needs no more
> > than physical access to the computer, a LiveCD and a couple minutes in
> > order to become the super user of your system. Basically, the password
> > seems useful only to know whether anyone has changed it behind your
> > back.
> >
> > I am starting to wonder why am I so attached to my root password being
> > strong.. :)
> > Liviu
>
> That's why I have my entire installation over a DM-CRYPT ( LUKS
> encrypted partition... ), including swaps and storage ( LVM over
> DM-CRYPT actually), this way even if someone had a physical access to
> my laptop, both GRUB and LiveCD approach would be useless...

I've thought about going for this . . . and then backpedaled once more.  Every 
time I had a fs problem I have managed to recover to this date without much 
trouble.  Vanilla primary and extended partitions seem to be straight forward 
to access with any LiveCD.  To be honest even when I had to frig about with 
LVM I managed to recover without loss of data (more out of luck than skill I 
suspect).  The thought however, that I may lose my private key (never say 
never), or lose a drive and need to access my data pronto from a back up 
makes me somewhat nervous.  Should I be more brave that this?
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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM

[Sergey Kobzar]

>> That's one of the reason why I wanted intelfb, but got no luck. I'm
>> using uvesafb at the moment, but still hope intelfb will be fixed
>> soon.
>> 
> I seem to have missed the start of this thread, but if you don't mind,
> could you give me a quick idea on what is broken within intelfb? I've
> been debating on switching to it, but keep seeing info on it being
> broken, and nothing on WHAT is broken.

I see screen with many scrolling white lines (probably this are kernel
messages). It looks like problem with synchronization or unsupported
video mode.

uvesafb works nice.

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[gentoo-user] rhythmbox plays silently

[Michael Schmarck]

Good evening!

I've got a problem with media-sound/rhythmbox-0.11.2-r1 on
my new ~x86 system. When I play an MP3 file, I see that rb
progresses and when I turn on visualization, I see the sound.
But I hear nothing at all :/ 

Any ideas about why that's so?

The volume slider in rb is all the way up. Also all the sliders
in the mixer are all up. And when I use a different player,
like Amarok, VLC or MPlayer, I hear sound when I play the song
that's silent in Rhythmbox. This happens with all the songs
I tried.

Well - what to do?

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM

[forgottenwizard]

On 19:11 Tue 25 Mar , Sergey Kobzar wrote:
> Hi Wael,
> 
> Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 6:56:32 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > This One Time, at Band Camp, Sergey Kobzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > said, On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:46PM +0200:
> >> > Did intel works for you?? how's the performance ?? What did you
> >> > add/remove from your kernel ??
> >> 
> >> No, unfortunately it does not :(. I've switched to uvesafb. Looks like
> >> I have no other choice...
> > Oh :S too bad, I hoped to have a better performance with mplayer's
> > fbdev output...
> 
> That's one of the reason why I wanted intelfb, but got no luck. I'm
> using uvesafb at the moment, but still hope intelfb will be fixed
> soon.
> 
I seem to have missed the start of this thread, but if you don't mind,
could you give me a quick idea on what is broken within intelfb? I've
been debating on switching to it, but keep seeing info on it being
broken, and nothing on WHAT is broken.

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:53:24 -0400, Steven Lembark wrote:

> Which setup does anyone out there use for the encfs?

I use LUKS too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Nicola Degl'Innocenti]

Thanks for the reply.
I love linux, his power and flexibility, but i don't think buying a p3 or 
athon X2 64 only to have linux on Bios. I didn't know that project but it 
seem quite interesting. I hope some major motherboard builders seriusly 
invest on the project and bring it to the world of the home computers. It 
would be pretty interesting to see on market linux bios and Ami or other 
vendors bios . 
So for my question I thanks again for the reply. If there are no problems with 
nvidia or intel mobo (but this is true for all the nvidia and intel mobo? 
There are no problem with other chipset integrated on the motherboard?), then 
I need to focus on performance (SLI or future upgrade) and princing.

Thank you again.

Nicola 

Ps
I think my choice is restricted only at:
P5N32-E
P5K/pro



> On 03/24/08 23:43, Nicola Degl'Innocenti wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >Someone have one of those cards or know a good site with information about
> >linux compatibility for those cards?
> >
> >The SLI capability is not important as having ethernet or sound supported
> > on linux.
>
> Another option/consideration would be to look motherboards that are
> compatible with: http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot
>
> You have an option of putting Linux into the BIOS for faster booting.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Steven Lembark wrote:
>  >>  them. Things have indeed changed since 1978
>
> Unless you include the time in 1972 that some of
> my friends broke into the computer room, hacked
> the PDP-11, and inserted "Panther, Pink" into
> every class in the highschool.
>
> They have remained hugely the same :-)

I stand corrected :-)

The technology and what people are supposed to do with computers has 
changed a lot.

What wise-ass kids DO do with them has stayed exactly the same. 

Sidenote: I'll expect that most of those same hacker kids are now 
well-respected and competent IT professionals, right? That also hasn't 
changed much over the years...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb Steven Lembark:

>  > If it is possible to have sufficient access to be able to remove the
>  > hard drive, then an encrypted filesystem is essential. Any computer that
>  > isn't nailed down behind a locked door should have this, unless it
>  > contains and has access to absolutely nothing of value.
>
> Which setup does anyone out there use for the encfs?

I use LUKS encrypted logical volumes. Root fs is encrypted with a password, 
all other volumes are encrypted with a keyfile located on /.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Steven Lembark]

>>  them. Things have indeed changed since 1978

Unless you include the time in 1972 that some of
my friends broke into the computer room, hacked
the PDP-11, and inserted "Panther, Pink" into
every class in the highschool.

They have remained hugely the same :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Steven Lembark]

> If it is possible to have sufficient access to be able to remove the hard
> drive, then an encrypted filesystem is essential. Any computer that isn't
> nailed down behind a locked door should have this, unless it contains and
> has access to absolutely nothing of value.

Which setup does anyone out there use for the encfs?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Steven Lembark]

> I am starting to wonder why am I so attached to my root password being
> strong.. :)

Becuase I can crack a simple password from outside
of the box. Hacking in w/ a CD or the init=blah
approach requires physical access and a reboot,
both of which are fairly noticable and preventable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Joseph]

On 03/24/08 23:43, Nicola Degl'Innocenti wrote:
[snip]
Someone have one of those cards or know a good site with information about 
linux compatibility for those cards? 

The SLI capability is not important as having ethernet or sound supported on 
linux.


Another option/consideration would be to look motherboards that are compatible with: 
http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot


You have an option of putting Linux into the BIOS for faster booting. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Grant]

>  > >  > > On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune
>  > >  > > to a LiveCD.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the
>  > >  > disc is encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only
>  > >  > destroy/overwrite it.
>  > >
>  > >  Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is
>  > > - too many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and
>  > > English is almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-)
>  > >
>  > >  Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log
>  > > onto machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a
>  > > finger on them. Things have indeed changed since 1978
>  >
>  > Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about
>  > be unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance
>  > considerations?
>
>  Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody
>  has physical access to them.

Sounds like co-location right?  I just have a hosted dedicated
machine.  The thing that's always kept me from co-locating is hardware
failure.  That would be a "my problem" in a co-located environment
rather than a "their problem" right?

- Grant


>  It's only interesting for workstations, laptops and external storage
>  devices.
>
>
>  Uwe
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Florian Philipp]

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 09:32 -0700, Grant wrote:
> >  > > On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a
> >  > > LiveCD.
> >  >
> >  > Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the disc is
> >  > encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only destroy/overwrite it.
> >
> >  Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is - too
> >  many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and English is
> >  almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-)
> >
> >  Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log onto
> >  machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a finger on
> >  them. Things have indeed changed since 1978
> 
> Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about be
> unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance
> considerations?
> 
> - Grant

I did some benchmarks recently, posted them on gentoo-security. Long
story short: Even my 64bit single-core Celeron can do 256bit AES, 320bit
Anubis  or 256bit Twofish faster than writing data to the disk (37MB/s).
Blowfish, CAST and Serpent are too slow.

128bit AES (which I deem good enough for the near future) causes around
40% CPU-utilization.

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM

[Sergey Kobzar]

Hi Wael,

Tuesday, March 25, 2008, 6:56:32 PM, you wrote:

> This One Time, at Band Camp, Sergey Kobzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said, On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:46PM +0200:
>> > Did intel works for you?? how's the performance ?? What did you
>> > add/remove from your kernel ??
>> 
>> No, unfortunately it does not :(. I've switched to uvesafb. Looks like
>> I have no other choice...
> Oh :S too bad, I hoped to have a better performance with mplayer's
> fbdev output...

That's one of the reason why I wanted intelfb, but got no luck. I'm
using uvesafb at the moment, but still hope intelfb will be fixed
soon.


> Cheers


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Uwe Thiem]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Grant wrote:
> >  > > On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune
> >  > > to a LiveCD.
> >  >
> >  > Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the
> >  > disc is encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only
> >  > destroy/overwrite it.
> >
> >  Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is
> > - too many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and
> > English is almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-)
> >
> >  Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log
> > onto machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a
> > finger on them. Things have indeed changed since 1978
>
> Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about
> be unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance
> considerations?

Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody 
has physical access to them.

It's only interesting for workstations, laptops and external storage 
devices.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 10:48 -0600, darren kirby wrote:
> I thought the Xorg folks wrote the nv driver?

They do, but the nv driver code was written by someone paid by nVidia
and hasn't really had any significant work done on it in years.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:08 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > The nv driver has *no* 3D acceleration and limited 2D acceleration
> due
> > to nVidia's refusal to release the specs needed to create a decent
> OSS
> > driver.
> 
> since the nv driver is written by nvidia, who needs specs?

The nv driver is crippleware and, without efforts like nouveau, there is
no *real* OSS driver that can fully take advantage of the hardware
without the specs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM

[Wael Nasreddine]

This One Time, at Band Camp, Sergey Kobzar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Tue, 
Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:46PM +0200:
> > Did intel works for you?? how's the performance ?? What did you
> > add/remove from your kernel ??
> 
> No, unfortunately it does not :(. I've switched to uvesafb. Looks like
> I have no other choice...
Oh :S too bad, I hoped to have a better performance with mplayer's
fbdev output...

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Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome in portage

[Uwe Thiem]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > > Why on earth is it excluding openchrome?
> > >
> > > Because the xorg-server ebuild does not support openchrome.
> > > yet. Just add openchrome to world until it does
> >
> > Well, didn't look into the ebuild. You are right. Now, why and
> > how did it work with the overlay?
>
> I know nothing about that overlay, so I'm just guessing. Perhaps
> the overlay had a patched xorg-server?

The openchrome tarball from the overlay is identical to the one in 
portage. Actually, the overlay was just moved into portage I guess. 
Anyway, any patch in the overlay tarball must then also be in the 
portage one.

Alright, I stop here. It's just something puzzling me - and I don't 
like that without understanding it. ;-)

BTW, KDE4 is far smoother now. Animations are faster. Still, no shiny 
composite effects of KDE without crashing the whole session. Guess, I 
have to ask the openchrome folks whether they have any ETA for this.

Another thing is that the latest MESA release is quite old. They used 
to have a new release every 2 - 3 months. This might be related as 
well. Unfortunately, they don't have any kind of roadmap on their web 
site. So one doesn't know when to expect a new version.

Yes, I know: Get a decent video subsystem. Not that easy. The Intel 
chips (most probably enough for my purpose) only reside on mobos. ATI 
drivers are in the process of catching up and will probably be there 
in six or so months' time - but they aren't now. Nvidia, yes nvidia. 
Would rather try to avoid them. So not too many options for me short 
of throwing the whole mobo out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[darren kirby]

quoth the Volker Armin Hemmann:

> > The nv driver has *no* 3D acceleration and limited 2D acceleration due
> > to nVidia's refusal to release the specs needed to create a decent OSS
> > driver.
>
> since the nv driver is written by nvidia, who needs specs?

I thought the Xorg folks wrote the nv driver?

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM

[Sergey Kobzar]

> This One Time, at Band Camp, Pongracz Istvan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 08:50:21PM +0100:
>> Sergey,

>> Last time, when I sent my .config file, that has intelfb builtin and
>> working.
>> I think, because I also has this kind of integrated video card.
>> Check that out or drop me a PM if you need to resend.

>> Cheers,
>> István

> Sergey,

> Did intel works for you?? how's the performance ?? What did you
> add/remove from your kernel ??

No, unfortunately it does not :(. I've switched to uvesafb. Looks like
I have no other choice...



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[gentoo-user] Error compiling media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4-r1

[Wael Nasreddine]

Hello list :)

I'm having a problem compiling splashutils, anyone else having the
same problem ??

attached is my 'emerge --info' and the build log..

Regards,

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Portage 2.1.4.4 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.2.3, glibc-2.7-r2, 
2.6.24-tuxonice-r3 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.24-tuxonice-r3 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:00:05 +
distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) 
[enabled]
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p33
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.5
dev-lang/python: 2.5.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.0
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r1
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.26
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.24
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/4.0/env /usr/kde/4.0/share/config 
/usr/kde/4.0/shutdown /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf 
/etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo 
/etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -msse3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
DISTDIR="/mnt/storage/Gentoo-System/distfiles"
FEATURES="ccache distcc distlocks metadata-transfer parallel-fetch sandbox 
sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.qubenet.net/mirror/gentoo/ 
http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo 
http://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/ 
http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/";
LANG="en_US.utf8"
LC_ALL="en_US.utf8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu"
LINGUAS="en"
MAKEOPTS="-j4"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles 
--exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/overlays/gentoo"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/overlays/berkano /usr/overlays/paludis-extras 
/usr/overlays/sunrise /usr/overlays/wgentoo"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac aalib alsa bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bluetooth 
branding bzip2 cdparanoia cdr cli cracklib crypt dbus dri dv dvd dvdr dvdread 
encode exif fame ffmpeg flac fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk hal iconv ipv6 
isdnlog jpeg lame libg++ libnotify mad matroska midi mmx mp3 mpeg ncurses nls 
nptl nsplugin ogg pam pcre perl png ppds pppd python quicktime readline 
reflection session spell spl sse sse2 ssl startup-notification subtitles tcpd 
theora truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vcd vorbis win32codecs x264 
x86 xcomposite xinerama xorg xv xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" 
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file 
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route 
share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias 
authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default 
authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs 
dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter 
headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation 
rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" 
CAMERAS="adc65 agfa_cl20 aox barbie canon casio_qv clicksmart310 digigr8 digita 
dimagev dimera3500 directory enigma13 fuji gsmart300 hp215 iclick jamcam jd11 
kodak_dc120 kodak_dc210 kodak_dc240 kodak_dc3200 kodak_ez200 konica 
konica_qm150 largan lg_gsm mars mustek panasonic_coolshot panasonic_dc1000 
panasonic_dc1580 panasonic_l859 pccam300 pccam600 polaroid_pdc320 
polaroid_pdc640 polaroid_pdc700 ptp2 ricoh ricoh_g3 samsung sierra sipix_blink 
sipix_blink2 sipix_web2 smal sonix sony_dscf1 sony_dscf55 soundvision spca50x 
sq905 stv0674 stv0680 sx330z template toshiba_pdrm11" ELIBC="glibc" 
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad 
cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="en" 
USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="i810 vesa"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, 
PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

paludis --log-level warning --preserve-wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Grant]

>  > > On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a
>  > > LiveCD.
>  >
>  > Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the disc is
>  > encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only destroy/overwrite it.
>
>  Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is - too
>  many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and English is
>  almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-)
>
>  Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log onto
>  machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a finger on
>  them. Things have indeed changed since 1978

Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about be
unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance
considerations?

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Re: [gentoo-user] intelfb and 945GM

[Wael Nasreddine]

This One Time, at Band Camp, Pongracz Istvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Fri, 
Mar 14, 2008 at 08:50:21PM +0100:
> Sergey,

> Last time, when I sent my .config file, that has intelfb builtin and
> working.
> I think, because I also has this kind of integrated video card.
> Check that out or drop me a PM if you need to resend.

> Cheers,
> István

Sergey,

Did intel works for you?? how's the performance ?? What did you
add/remove from your kernel ??

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 25. März 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > As for the performances, could you tell me if there is a gap between
> > > nv and the proprietary driver ? I Never tried the later.
> >
> > I'll let someone more current answer that - I haven't done head to
> > head
> > comparisons on nvidia for ages. Last I heard, nv was still way behind
> > in terms of features supported, but that can change quite quickly.
> >
> > Anyone else got current info on this? It's a question I'm sure many
> > folk
> > would like an answer on
>
> The nv driver has *no* 3D acceleration and limited 2D acceleration due
> to nVidia's refusal to release the specs needed to create a decent OSS
> driver.

since the nv driver is written by nvidia, who needs specs?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon:
> > On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a
> > LiveCD.
>
> Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the disc is
> encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only destroy/overwrite it.

Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is - too 
many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and English is 
almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-)

Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log onto 
machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a finger on 
them. Things have indeed changed since 1978


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Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome in portage

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > Why on earth is it excluding openchrome?
> >
> > Because the xorg-server ebuild does not support openchrome. yet.
> > Just add openchrome to world until it does
>
> Well, didn't look into the ebuild. You are right. Now, why and how
> did it work with the overlay?

I know nothing about that overlay, so I'm just guessing. Perhaps the 
overlay had a patched xorg-server?

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[gentoo-user] Re: openchrome in portage

[Michael Schmarck]

Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> xf86-video-openchrome is now in portage. So there is no need to keep
> the overlay. I deleted it and removed the "source" line
> in /etc/make.conf. I have the following line in make.conf:
> VIDEO_CARDS="openchrome via"
> 
> Now I get this:
> uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose xorg-server
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3  USE="dri hal ipv6
> sdl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal (-nptl) -xprint"
> INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard
> mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300
> -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick-magellan -microtouch
> -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98
> -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="via -amd -apm-ark -chips -cirrus
> -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact)
> -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon
> -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2)
> (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga
> -trident -tseng -v4l -vermilion -vesa -vga -vmware -voodoo -xgi
> (-openchrome%*)" 0 kB
> 
> Why on earth is it excluding openchrome?

Because xorg-server doesn't list it in VIDEO_CARDS. For
the time being, you need to install xf86-video-openchrome
"manually". I bet that an upcoming rev/rel of xorg-server
will fix this "problem".


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon:
> On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a
> LiveCD.

Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the disc is 
encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only destroy/overwrite it.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Galevsky]

Tank you.

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Albert Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

>  The nv driver has *no* 3D acceleration and limited 2D acceleration due
>  to nVidia's refusal to release the specs needed to create a decent OSS
>  driver.
>
>  You can try the nouveau* drivers but they're still experimental.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:08:04 +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> I'd say the BIOS is not much of a security enforcer. Even with the
> BIOS password protected, one can plug out the hardrive, connect to
> another system and get access to all the data. It might need more time
> than a LiveCD approach, it would be as efficient. As Alan and Wael
> suggested, the approaches that can work in protecting your data are a
> physical key to a locked door or a root encrypted system.

If it is possible to have sufficient access to be able to remove the hard
drive, then an encrypted filesystem is essential. Any computer that isn't
nailed down behind a locked door should have this, unless it contains and
has access to absolutely nothing of value.


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Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome in portage

[Uwe Thiem]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > xf86-video-openchrome is now in portage. So there is no need to
> > keep the overlay. I deleted it and removed the "source" line
> > in /etc/make.conf. I have the following line in make.conf:
> > VIDEO_CARDS="openchrome via"
> >
> > Now I get this:
> > uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose xorg-server
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3  USE="dri hal
> > ipv6 sdl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal (-nptl) -xprint"
> > INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard
> > mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro
> > -elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio
> > -joystick-magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount
> > -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom"
> > VIDEO_CARDS="via -amd -apm-ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy
> > -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact) -imstt
> > -mach64 -mga -neomagic
> > (-newport) -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge
> > -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14)
> > (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga
> > -trident -tseng -v4l -vermilion -vesa -vga -vmware -voodoo -xgi
> > (-openchrome%*)" 0 kB
> >
> > Why on earth is it excluding openchrome?
>
> Because the xorg-server ebuild does not support openchrome. yet.
> Just add openchrome to world until it does

Well, didn't look into the ebuild. You are right. Now, why and how did 
it work with the overlay?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome in portage

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> xf86-video-openchrome is now in portage. So there is no need to keep
> the overlay. I deleted it and removed the "source" line
> in /etc/make.conf. I have the following line in make.conf:
> VIDEO_CARDS="openchrome via"
>
> Now I get this:
> uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose xorg-server
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3  USE="dri hal ipv6
> sdl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal (-nptl) -xprint"
> INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard
> mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro
> -elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick-magellan
> -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics
> -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="via -amd -apm-ark
> -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740
> -i810 (-impact) -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic
> (-newport) -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge
> -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3)
> (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng
> -v4l -vermilion -vesa -vga -vmware -voodoo -xgi (-openchrome%*)" 0 kB
>
> Why on earth is it excluding openchrome?

Because the xorg-server ebuild does not support openchrome. yet. Just 
add openchrome to world until it does


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Montag, 24. März 2008 schrieb ext Steven Lembark:

> Make sure that your bash is statically linked,
> otherwise you can run into problems with this
> approach.

# ldd /bin/bash
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb7f2a000)
libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7ec7000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7ec3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d6b000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f2b000)

No need for a static bash, since everything it needs is in /lib.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Liviu Andronic:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've revived an old Gentoo laptop, but I've forgotten the root
> > >
> >  > password.  I remember the password to my user account and I can log
> >  > in there fine.  Can I recover the root password?
> >
> >  If you could passwords were useless. ;-)
> >
> >  But you can boot from a LiveCD, mount your harddrive, chroot and then
> >  give root another password.
>
> But then, conventional passwords are as useless. One needs no more
> than physical access to the computer, a LiveCD and a couple minutes in
> order to become the super user of your system. Basically, the password
> seems useful only to know whether anyone has changed it behind your
> back.

That's only true if you didn't do anything else to protect the system. All 
the above is useless if the / filesystem is encrypted.

> I am starting to wonder why am I so attached to my root password being
> strong.. :)

Because it protects your system from abuse.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > As for the performances, could you tell me if there is a gap between
> > nv and the proprietary driver ? I Never tried the later.
> 
> I'll let someone more current answer that - I haven't done head to
> head 
> comparisons on nvidia for ages. Last I heard, nv was still way behind 
> in terms of features supported, but that can change quite quickly.
> 
> Anyone else got current info on this? It's a question I'm sure many
> folk 
> would like an answer on

The nv driver has *no* 3D acceleration and limited 2D acceleration due
to nVidia's refusal to release the specs needed to create a decent OSS
driver.

You can try the nouveau* drivers but they're still experimental.


* http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/

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[gentoo-user] openchrome in portage

[Uwe Thiem]

Hi folks,

xf86-video-openchrome is now in portage. So there is no need to keep 
the overlay. I deleted it and removed the "source" line 
in /etc/make.conf. I have the following line in make.conf:
VIDEO_CARDS="openchrome via"

Now I get this:
uwix ~ # emerge --pretend --verbose xorg-server

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.4.0.90-r3  USE="dri hal ipv6 
sdl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal (-nptl) -xprint" 
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard 
mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 
-elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick-magellan -microtouch -mutouch 
-palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void 
-wacom" 
VIDEO_CARDS="via -amd -apm-ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev 
-fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 
(-impact) -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic 
(-newport) -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage 
-siliconmotion -sis -sisusb 
(-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) 
(-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vermilion -vesa -vga -vmware -voodoo 
-xgi 
(-openchrome%*)" 0 kB

Why on earth is it excluding openchrome?

Uh, I am on ~x86, so this is not the problem.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Galevsky wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Alan McKinnon
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>
> >  Video cards is the big sticking point
>
> For sure. But I guess that he wants to satellite his GC with the last
> Windows games, so I would recommend a 8800. And his NVIDIA wont hurt
> for a common desktop usage.
>
> As for the performances, could you tell me if there is a gap between
> nv and the proprietary driver ? I Never tried the later.

I'll let someone more current answer that - I haven't done head to head 
comparisons on nvidia for ages. Last I heard, nv was still way behind 
in terms of features supported, but that can change quite quickly.

Anyone else got current info on this? It's a question I'm sure many folk 
would like an answer on



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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Or disable booting from the optical drive (or remove it completely) and
>  set a password in the BIOS. This is one of the few areas in which a
>  laptop has an advantage, you can't just pope the side off the case and
>  flip a jumper to reset the BIOS.
>

I'd say the BIOS is not much of a security enforcer. Even with the
BIOS password protected, one can plug out the hardrive, connect to
another system and get access to all the data. It might need more time
than a LiveCD approach, it would be as efficient. As Alan and Wael
suggested, the approaches that can work in protecting your data are a
physical key to a locked door or a root encrypted system.
Liviu
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Re: [gentoo-user] 1/2 OT: What Linux could learn from mainframes ?

[Michal 'vorner' Vaner]

Hello

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 03:12:13AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * defect management directly on block basis (w/o additional 
>   stacking layers). 

IMO dividing things into layers/parts is good. It allows for replacing
one layer, or not using some of them if they are not needed.

> * distributed storages (not just disks, but several hosts)

That sounds interesting.

> * volumes attributes which let the volume manager decide how/where
>   to actually store blocks, eg.:

Is there a real need for this? (Just wondering)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error emerging gtk+ Pango not found (NOT expat - kind of SOLVED)

[Patrick Holthaus]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> cairo's obviously built w/ GL, and your GL library is broken.
> In no way surprising, since it's NVidia's proprietary crap.

I have never expierienced any problems with the proprietary driver (till now). 
For sure it would be better if it were open but at least it always worked and 
had acceptable performance.

> You could try switching to another GL (via eselect) or rebuilding
> cairo w/o GL.

Strange, eselect showed that it was already set to xorg. Rebuilding cairo 
with -opengl made gtk+ compile. Thanks! Maybe an older version of the nvidia 
driver will also make it work.

> BTW: if you experience system lockups or X11 crashes, also the
> NVidia driver may be the source of evil.

Did not nice that before.

> Sad but true: there is *NO* reliable 3D driver for recent NVidia
> cards. NV's proprietary driver is crap, and they're totally unwilling
> to support OSS community in any way. So if you really want GL,
> either try software rendering (via mesa) or get a supported card.
> (I've got the same problem - didn't properly check before bying :( )

Supported card? ATI/AMD is just beginning to give information (when I bought 
the card both were binary only and nvidia had better 
performance/"compatibility") and Intel performance is just too bad. However 
this is getting off-topic :) and since it is an old laptop, changing cards is 
not an option.

Thanks again!
Patrick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 25. März 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Nicola Degl'Innocenti wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I would like to buy a new pc, but since I use linux more than windows
> > (that i use only for gaming), I am interested in hardware
> > compatibility with linux.
> >
> > I'm planing to buy a core 2 Duo platform with a nvidia 8800 GT,
>
> Stay away from NVidia. Good performing cards, but their Linux support is
> atrocious (and that's being kind to them)

he is talking about mobos not graphic cards. And nvidia-mobos are fine.

And the support of their graphic cards is ok too. If you don't like their 
binary driver, you can always use the nv driver.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Galevsky]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Video cards is the big sticking point

For sure. But I guess that he wants to satellite his GC with the last
Windows games, so I would recommend a 8800. And his NVIDIA wont hurt
for a common desktop usage.

As for the performances, could you tell me if there is a gap between
nv and the proprietary driver ? I Never tried the later.

Gal'
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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Nicola Degl'Innocenti wrote:
> Hi!
> I would like to buy a new pc, but since I use linux more than windows
> (that i use only for gaming), I am interested in hardware
> compatibility with linux.
>
> I'm planing to buy a core 2 Duo platform with a nvidia 8800 GT,

Stay away from NVidia. Good performing cards, but their Linux support is 
atrocious (and that's being kind to them)

ATI are not much better but at least they make something of an effort to 
publish some specs.

Intell cards are the best supported and the worst performing I'm afraid

> but i 
> am very confused about the motherboard. The cheapest shop vendor only
> have asus motherboard so i don't have much choice.
> - Asus P5E X38 DDR2 for 189 €
> - Asus P5K/pro iP35 for 114 €
> - Asus P5N32-E/SLI 680i for 199€
> - Asus P5N-T dlx 780i 232€

Look further afield. Don't limit yourself to just one shop based on 
price. The price difference between motherboards isn't that great when 
compared to the cost of an entire box, and the wrong decision can be 
very painful in the future

> Someone have one of those cards or know a good site with information
> about linux compatibility for those cards?
>
> The SLI capability is not important as having ethernet or sound
> supported on linux.

Ethernet is not a problem now and has not been for a very long time. 
Sound is mostly similar.

Video cards is the big sticking point


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:25:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a 
> LiveCD. If this concerns you, apply some biometrics and encrypted 
> filesystem patches. Or stop using notebooks. Or stop using computers 
> that someone else can touch.

Or disable booting from the optical drive (or remove it completely) and
set a password in the BIOS. This is one of the few areas in which a
laptop has an advantage, you can't just pope the side off the case and
flip a jumper to reset the BIOS.


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Re: [gentoo-user] defect management block device

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If SMART (or something conceptually similar) detects that a drive
> > might be failing and be beyond the range of the drive's ability to
> > cope, it could raise an event and move the blocks used to another
> > disk.
>
> And it even would get funnier if the drive's relocation table
> could be accessed (no idea if this is possible):
> The LVM would notice if the drive has relocated an (LBA) block,
> move it out of the way (somewhere else in the LV) and then
> remove the relocation (never access that LBA block anymore).
> This way an slowly dying disk can be used for quite a long time.
> Think of boxes with very limited physical access (eg. outoor field
> systems) or huge archives w/ non-critical/regeneratable data
> (eg. media collections w/ originals available, mirrors, etc).
>
> The idea of using even old and damaged disks at really low costs
> (not counting the power consumption ;-P) is seems quite fascinating
> to me :)

The tricky part is to figure out where a concept like this fits in the 
various abstraction layers. You couldn't build it into LVM, as LVM 
doesn't really know about individual blocks on the disk, it only works 
with it's own segments. The disk driver itself only really understands 
it's own IDE/SCSI commands and manipulates the data at the sector 
level. The file system can work at the block level.

So there are at least 3 different allocation unit sizes and no obvious 
way to write one driver that spans all three. The one idea that keeps 
coming back to me is a new function in the kernel where a driver for a 
physical storage device can fire an event if it detects a failing unit, 
and other drivers can register to receive those events. When it gets 
one, the high level driver can decide if it should move it's own blocks 
of data around. In a way, conceptually similar to a GUI event 
framework.

Could be very useful to a niche market - Linux already has 1000s of 
those :-) - but would require very careful design to not break 
everything else in the system
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Wael Nasreddine]

This One Time, at Band Camp, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Tue, 
Mar 25, 2008 at 09:03:29AM +0100:
> >  But you can boot from a LiveCD, mount your harddrive, chroot and then
> >  give root another password.

> But then, conventional passwords are as useless. One needs no more
> than physical access to the computer, a LiveCD and a couple minutes in
> order to become the super user of your system. Basically, the password
> seems useful only to know whether anyone has changed it behind your
> back.

> I am starting to wonder why am I so attached to my root password being
> strong.. :)
> Liviu
That's why I have my entire installation over a DM-CRYPT ( LUKS
encrypted partition... ), including swaps and storage ( LVM over
DM-CRYPT actually), this way even if someone had a physical access to
my laptop, both GRUB and LiveCD approach would be useless...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> >  But you can boot from a LiveCD, mount your harddrive, chroot and
> > then give root another password.
>
> But then, conventional passwords are as useless. One needs no more
> than physical access to the computer, a LiveCD and a couple minutes
> in order to become the super user of your system. Basically, the
> password seems useful only to know whether anyone has changed it
> behind your back.

Let me guess - you own a notebook and most of your exposure to running a 
computer is limited to that, and you have never administered a real 
server somewhere, right?

It's very very easy to keep your servers safe from physical access 
attacks - make sure the bad guys can't touch it. This is so easy to do 
it's laughable - we use a locked door. The only people who have a key 
are those who have to root password anyway.

On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune to a 
LiveCD. If this concerns you, apply some biometrics and encrypted 
filesystem patches. Or stop using notebooks. Or stop using computers 
that someone else can touch.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've revived an old Gentoo laptop, but I've forgotten the root
>  > password.  I remember the password to my user account and I can log
>  > in there fine.  Can I recover the root password?
>
>  If you could passwords were useless. ;-)
>
>  But you can boot from a LiveCD, mount your harddrive, chroot and then
>  give root another password.

But then, conventional passwords are as useless. One needs no more
than physical access to the computer, a LiveCD and a couple minutes in
order to become the super user of your system. Basically, the password
seems useful only to know whether anyone has changed it behind your
back.

I am starting to wonder why am I so attached to my root password being
strong.. :)
Liviu
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Re: [gentoo-user] crontab entry

[Kaushal Shriyan]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Kaushal Shriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Kaushal Shriyan <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Kaushal Shriyan <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mike Edenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> > > > > Hi I have the following entry in the crontab
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > 0 18 * * * /home/kaushal/rsync_mysql.sh
> > > > >
> > > > > I want my subject line to be "hostxx:yyDB refresh daily"
> > > > >
> > > > > is there a way to do it
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Kaushal
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The easiest way is to write a wrapper script; I have a few of them
> > > > that
> > > > do something like:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (
> > > > echo "From: songbird.jungle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
> > > > echo "To: Michael Edenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
> > > > echo "Subject: Portage Update Report"
> > > > echo ""
> > > >
> > > > # do stuff here.
> > > >
> > > > ) | sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have two scripts file one is http://pastebin.com/m263e6f3c and
> > > http://pastebin.com/m175098db.
> > >
> > > The requirement is run http://pastebin.com/m175098db script once the
> > > below line succeeds in the http://pastebin.com/m263e6f3c
> > >
> > > if /usr/bin/rsync -av /var/lib/mysql host77:/var/lib/ >
> > > /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log 2>&1
> > > then
> > >   /usr/bin/mailx -s "Success: host77 DB refresh daily"
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log
> > >
> > > I am not able to proceed
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > >
> > > Kaushal
> > >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have combined the script http://pastebin.com/m77e0e752, is it ok
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> >
> > Kaushal
> >
> >
>
> Hi Collin,
>
> I have http://pastebin.com/d65195b48, I want to know how much time it
> takes to execute the script,
>
> I know the time command
>
> { time sudo /usr/bin/rsync -av /var/lib/mysql [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/; }
> 2>/tmp/time.output
>
> is there a way to call the time command inside the
> http://pastebin.com/d65195b48 script
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> Kaushal
>


Hi Collin

I could incorporate the time command in my script
http://pastebin.com/d1324bbd8

http://pastebin.com/d1324bbd8 is the modified script. Just wanted to know
the elasped time in minutes instead of seconds

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal