[gentoo-user] /usr/lib/pkgconfig collisions
Howdy, While attempting to try the latest version of ruby-gnome2 (0.19.1), I copied the 0.19.0 ebuilds to my local overlay then renamed them to the new version. I then downloaded the ruby-gnome2-all-0.19.1.tar.gz, placed it in /usr/portage/distfiles, then used ebuild ruby-... digest for each of the packages to create the Manifest file. When I attempt to emerge the updated packages, the first package, ruby- glib2-0.19.1, errors with a detected file collision on /usr/lib/ pkgconfig. This is a directory and thus emerge finds every package that has installed a file in it. Now my guess is that some code that attempts to check for conflicts within the /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory is being given an blank package name, thus is checking the directory. My problem is I don't see where the conflict code is even called. Anyone have any hints or know where the documentation is? TIA, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/lib/pkgconfig collisions
Oops, sorry for the duplicate post. On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Roy Wright wrote: Howdy, While attempting to try the latest version of ruby-gnome2 (0.19.1), I copied the 0.19.0 ebuilds to my local overlay
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote Note that by doing so you will be using -j1 for every future version of duma. That means, if the problem gets fixed, you'll still be using -j1. Actually, I put -j1 into my make.conf after being bitten by -j2 a few times. It doesn't slow down the emerge that much, and doesn't slow down the compiled program at all. And the big thing is that it has probably saved me from wasting time trying to track down weird emerge failures. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: Same here. Have you tried renaming the config directory and letting it recreate it fresh? Sometimes that helps. You know, the /home/≤user name/.ooo3 directory? You can rename it, move it or something then restart OOo and see if it works. OK, Well I tried that, new .0003 dir created but same fault: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' If that fails, kick it. LOL If only that would help.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:38:32 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Mike Kazantsev mk.fraggod at gmail.com writes: emerge -1 dev-util/strace strace -f ooffice 2strace.log grep -2 -e EACCES -e EPERM strace.log tail -500 strace.log | less (to see what happened last) OK, Here are the bottom lines: ... access(/usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../share/uno_packages/cache/registry/ com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend/registry/ data/org/openoffice, F_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) Why is that? stat(/usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../share/uno_packages/cache/registry/ com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend/ registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu, 0x7fff6244bd80) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) ...same file again and (shortly) a crash. Prehaps you should check if it has some 0600 or 0640 mode and correct it to 644. Prehaps it's one of the parent dirs, just try to stat it as a user. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
Mike Kazantsev mk.fraggod at gmail.com writes: access(/usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../share/uno_packages/cache/registry/ com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend/registry/ data/org/openoffice, F_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) Why is that? Good question, dunno stat(/usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../share/uno_packages/cache/registry/ com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend/ registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu, 0x7fff6244bd80) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) ...same file again and (shortly) a crash. Prehaps you should check if it has some 0600 or 0640 mode and correct it to 644. Prehaps it's one of the parent dirs, just try to stat it as a user. Well here's what I found: # ls -alg /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache total 13 drwxr-xr-x 4 root 168 Aug 2 16:34 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root72 Mar 26 02:33 .. drwx-- 8 root 520 Jul 17 08:13 registry -rw--- 1 root 1 Aug 2 16:34 stamp.sys drwx-- 2 root48 Jul 17 08:13 uno_packages -rw--- 1 root 12288 Jul 17 08:13 uno_packages.db so from that cache dir chmod -R 755 * fix it! Thanks, James
[gentoo-user] Python 2.4.6 getting pulled in
I have been running Python 2.5* on my Gentoo system ever since it went stable x86. Today I ran an `emerge --update --deep --newuse --with-bdeps y world -avt` and saw that python-2.4.6 was being pulled into a new slot. I have no idea why an old version of python is being pulled in since python is showing up at the root of a dependency tree, marked in bold (I'm pretty sure that means it's pulled in from world). I can't for the life of me find any package that requires python that forces version 2.4.6 or 2.5. I have Django installed, which requires =python-2.5[sqlite], but I have the sqlite use flag enabled on my current install of Python. No combination of equery depends and qdepends will show me any packages that would be pulling in this old Python. Does anyone know what might be pulling in this old python? Thanks, Chris
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: And 'grep -r 1.4.2 /etc/*' may turn up obsolete config files that you don't know you have. It's like rummaging through your attic :) Hello Walt, fixing the file permission under: /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache did the trick for me. thanks, James
[gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.4.6 getting pulled in
On 8/3/2009 8:56 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
I have been running Python 2.5* on my Gentoo system ever since it went
stable x86. Today I ran an `emerge --update --deep --newuse
--with-bdeps y world -avt` and saw that python-2.4.6 was being pulled
into a new slot. I have no idea why an old version of python is being
pulled in since python is showing up at the root of a dependency tree,
marked in bold (I'm pretty sure that means it's pulled in from world).
I can't for the life of me find any package that requires python that
forces version 2.4.6 or 2.5. I have Django installed, which requires
=python-2.5[sqlite], but I have the sqlite use flag enabled on my
current install of Python. No combination of equery depends and
qdepends will show me any packages that would be pulling in this old Python.
Does anyone know what might be pulling in this old python?
Thanks,
Chris
A little more digging (ie, masking Python 2.5 and watching the carnage)
revealed that the culprit is the new django-1.0.3. The diff for the
DEPEND and RDEPEND is:
RDEPEND=dev-python/imaging
sqlite? ( || (
+ =dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
( dev-python/pysqlite:2 dev-lang/python-2.5 )
- =dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
- test? ( || (
- ( dev-python/pysqlite:2 dev-lang/python-2.5 )
- =dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
+ )
postgres? ( dev-python/psycopg )
mysql? ( =dev-python/mysql-python-1.2.1_p2 )
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
- doc? ( =dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ doc? ( =dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ test? ( || (
+ =dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
+ ( dev-python/pysqlite:2 dev-lang/python-2.5 )
+ )
Does anyone know why these changes would cause python-2.5 to get pulled
in when I already have python-2.5[sqlite] installed?
Chris
[gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
On 08/03/2009 03:11 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote Note that by doing so you will be using -j1 for every future version of duma. That means, if the problem gets fixed, you'll still be using -j1. Actually, I put -j1 into my make.conf after being bitten by -j2 a few times. It doesn't slow down the emerge that much, and doesn't slow down the compiled program at all. And the big thing is that it has probably saved me from wasting time trying to track down weird emerge failures. Well, that's you. -j2 needs only 1/2 of the time to emerge things on this machine, and -j4 only 1/4 on a 4 core machine. So my advice for others is to not take Walter's advice and use -j1 because it doesn't slow down the emerge that much. It can slow it down. Up to four times slower.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/03/2009 03:11 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: Actually, I put -j1 into my make.conf after being bitten by -j2 a few times. It doesn't slow down the emerge that much, and doesn't slow down the compiled program at all. And the big thing is that it has probably saved me from wasting time trying to track down weird emerge failures. Well, that's you. -j2 needs only 1/2 of the time to emerge things on this machine, and -j4 only 1/4 on a 4 core machine. So my advice for others is to not take Walter's advice and use -j1 because it doesn't slow down the emerge that much. It can slow it down. Up to four times slower. It'll actually be somewhere inbetween the two of you. None of the steps in an emerge *except* the compilation stage will be affected by the -J option. That compile stage though will be affected as you said. For some packages, that will mean that the J option has almost no effect (becuase they have multiple ./configure runs that take far longer than the compile part anyway, or because they are so small the install stage takes longer or whatever). For most packages it will show an improvement, but almost never x2 or x4 For me, a kernel make with the -j=2 option is a lot quicker than without signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] copying the / partition
I wish to move the / partition, and separate /usr into a separate partition. One reason is to take advantage of a faster 10,000 RPM drive for system files. I am stuck on one issue (at least): do I need to copy /sys to the new / partition? Thank you for recent help with other issues. Alan You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. Richard Feynman
Re: [gentoo-user] copying the / partition
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:33:22 +1000, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote: I wish to move the / partition, and separate /usr into a separate partition. One reason is to take advantage of a faster 10,000 RPM drive for system files. I am stuck on one issue (at least): do I need to copy /sys to the new / partition? No need to copy /sys and /proc, they are virtual filesystems filled up by the kernel. You have also to copy /dev, but to do so, you have to reboot into a livecd, as the mounted /dev is filled in by udev in a running system. HTH. Thank you for recent help with other issues. Alan You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. Richard Feynman -- Xavier Parizet YaGB : http://gentooist.com GPG :DC81 6FEE 6EBE FCE4 1C18 202F E575 4A5D 036D 1408
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
James wrote: Mike Kazantsev mk.fraggod at gmail.com writes: access(/usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../share/uno_packages/cache/registry/ com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend/registry/ data/org/openoffice, F_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) Why is that? Good question, dunno stat(/usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../share/uno_packages/cache/registry/ com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend/ registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu, 0x7fff6244bd80) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) ...same file again and (shortly) a crash. Prehaps you should check if it has some 0600 or 0640 mode and correct it to 644. Prehaps it's one of the parent dirs, just try to stat it as a user. Well here's what I found: # ls -alg /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache total 13 drwxr-xr-x 4 root 168 Aug 2 16:34 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root72 Mar 26 02:33 .. drwx-- 8 root 520 Jul 17 08:13 registry -rw--- 1 root 1 Aug 2 16:34 stamp.sys drwx-- 2 root48 Jul 17 08:13 uno_packages -rw--- 1 root 12288 Jul 17 08:13 uno_packages.db so from that cache dir chmod -R 755 * fix it! Thanks, James So it was a permissions issue. I suspected that. If you didn't change that, you may want to file a bug so it can be fixed. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/03/2009 03:11 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote Note that by doing so you will be using -j1 for every future version of duma. That means, if the problem gets fixed, you'll still be using -j1. Actually, I put -j1 into my make.conf after being bitten by -j2 a few times. It doesn't slow down the emerge that much, and doesn't slow down the compiled program at all. And the big thing is that it has probably saved me from wasting time trying to track down weird emerge failures. Well, that's you. -j2 needs only 1/2 of the time to emerge things on this machine, and -j4 only 1/4 on a 4 core machine. So my advice for others is to not take Walter's advice and use -j1 because it doesn't slow down the emerge that much. It can slow it down. Up to four times slower. But if he has a single CPU system, it won't matter that much. I have always heard that it should be set to number of CPU's plus 1. Mine is set to 2 since I have a single CPU rig. This is one of those situations where it depends on the system you have. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
On 08/03/2009 06:54 AM, James wrote: Well here's what I found: # ls -alg /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache total 13 drwxr-xr-x 4 root 168 Aug 2 16:34 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root72 Mar 26 02:33 .. drwx-- 8 root 520 Jul 17 08:13 registry -rw--- 1 root 1 Aug 2 16:34 stamp.sys drwx-- 2 root48 Jul 17 08:13 uno_packages -rw--- 1 root 12288 Jul 17 08:13 uno_packages.db so from that cache dir chmod -R 755 * fix it! Hmm. Both my x86 machine and my ~amd64 machine have *nothing* in that directory. All of those files and directories are in my ~/.ooo3 instead. And /root doesn't even have a .ooo3 directory. Beats me :-/
Re: [gentoo-user] copying the / partition
Xavier Parizet writes: On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:33:22 +1000, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote: I wish to move the / partition, and separate /usr into a separate partition. One reason is to take advantage of a faster 10,000 RPM drive for system files. I am stuck on one issue (at least): do I need to copy /sys to the new / partition? No need to copy /sys and /proc, they are virtual filesystems filled up by the kernel. Just make sure to create these directories. You have also to copy /dev, but to do so, you have to reboot into a livecd, as the mounted /dev is filled in by udev in a running system. Or you bind-mount the root file system to somewhere else, this gives you the original system without the things mounted on top of it: mount -o bind / /mnt cp -a /mnt/dev /newroot/ Or create the device nodes by hand, it's only two that are needed for udev to come up: mknod -m 660 /newroot/dev/console c 5 1 mknod -m 660 /newroot/dev/nullc 1 3 I _think_ you also could just copy the populated /dev, but I like to have only the necessary things in there, not everything that udev creates. Alex
[gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.4.6 getting pulled in
On 08/03/2009 07:03 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
On 8/3/2009 8:56 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
I have been running Python 2.5* on my Gentoo system ever since it went
stable x86. Today I ran an `emerge --update --deep --newuse
--with-bdeps y world -avt` and saw that python-2.4.6 was being pulled
into a new slot. I have no idea why an old version of python is being
pulled in since python is showing up at the root of a dependency tree,
marked in bold (I'm pretty sure that means it's pulled in from world).
I can't for the life of me find any package that requires python that
forces version 2.4.6 or2.5. I have Django installed, which requires
=python-2.5[sqlite], but I have the sqlite use flag enabled on my
current install of Python. No combination of equery depends and
qdepends will show me any packages that would be pulling in this old Python.
Does anyone know what might be pulling in this old python?
Thanks,
Chris
A little more digging (ie, masking Python2.5 and watching the carnage)
revealed that the culprit is the new django-1.0.3. The diff for the
DEPEND and RDEPEND is:
RDEPEND=dev-python/imaging
sqlite? ( || (
+=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
-=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
- test? ( || (
- ( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
-=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
+ )
postgres? ( dev-python/psycopg )
mysql? (=dev-python/mysql-python-1.2.1_p2 )
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
- doc? (=dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ doc? (=dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ test? ( || (
+=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
+ ( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
+ )
Does anyone know why these changes would causepython-2.5 to get pulled
in when I already have python-2.5[sqlite] installed?
Frankly, no. But have you run python-updater yet? Is there anything left
in /usr/lib/python2.4? Are /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2 both pointing
to /usr/bin/python2.5?
Maybe try re-emerging those dependencies that you already have installed?
Does eselect python list show anything unexpected?
[gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
Hi guys, I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Thanks in advance Matt
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: # ls -alg /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache Hmm. Both my x86 machine and my ~amd64 machine have *nothing* in that directory. All of those files and directories are in my ~/.ooo3 instead. That's certainly not consistent? Here's the files under my (user) .ooo3 dir: ~/.ooo3/user/registry/cache org.openoffice.LDAP.dat org.openoffice.Office.Accelerators.dat org.openoffice.Office.Addons.dat org.openoffice.Office.Calc.dat org.openoffice.Office.CalcAddIns.dat org.openoffice.Office.Commands.dat org.openoffice.Office.Common.dat org.openoffice.Office.Compatibility.dat org.openoffice.Office.Events.dat org.openoffice.Office.Histories.dat org.openoffice.Office.Impress.dat org.openoffice.Office.Jobs.dat org.openoffice.Office.Linguistic.dat org.openoffice.Office.Logging.dat org.openoffice.Office.Paths.dat org.openoffice.Office.ProtocolHandler.dat org.openoffice.Office.Recovery.dat org.openoffice.Office.SFX.dat org.openoffice.Office.Substitution.dat org.openoffice.Office.TabBrowse.dat org.openoffice.Office.TypeDetection.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.CalcCommands.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.CalcWindowState.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.Controller.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.Factories.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.GenericCommands.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.GlobalSettings.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.WriterCommands.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.WriterWindowState.dat org.openoffice.Office.UI.dat org.openoffice.Office.Views.dat org.openoffice.Office.Writer.dat org.openoffice.Office.WriterWeb.dat org.openoffice.Setup.dat org.openoffice.System.dat org.openoffice.TypeDetection.Filter.dat org.openoffice.TypeDetection.Misc.dat org.openoffice.TypeDetection.Types.dat org.openoffice.UserProfile.dat org.openoffice.VCL.dat org.openoffice.ucb.Configuration.dat org.openoffice.ucb.Store.dat Not the same. Nor are the files under the /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache/registry found under my .ooo3 dir. And /root doesn't even have a .ooo3 directory. Nor does my root dir contain the .ooo3 dir. Anyway, I'm done. thanks for the help. James
[gentoo-user] Re: Yahoo Messenger replacement
On 08/03/2009 06:19 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi guys, I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Thanks in advance You might want to try Kopete (it's a KDE app though so if you don't have KDE installed it will pull-in kdelibs.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt Harrisoniwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi guys, I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Thanks in advance Matt I've used Pidgin (formerly Gaim) with Yahoo for years and it works fine for me. Be sure you're using the very latest version, as Yahoo (and others) change their protocol often and the pidgin team needs to adapt to it. You may need to unmask it if you're not using ~arch. Check www.pidgin.im to see what the latest version is. Kopete should work, too. It even does video.
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt Harrisoniwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi guys, I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Thanks in advance Matt I've used Pidgin (formerly Gaim) with Yahoo for years and it works fine for me. Be sure you're using the very latest version, as Yahoo (and others) change their protocol often and the pidgin team needs to adapt to it. You may need to unmask it if you're not using ~arch. Check www.pidgin.im to see what the latest version is. Kopete should work, too. It even does video. I will also add that you can use the web-based version of yahoo messenger and avoid software: http://webmessenger.yahoo.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:28:20AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt Harrisoniwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi guys, I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Thanks in advance Matt I've used Pidgin (formerly Gaim) with Yahoo for years and it works fine for me. Be sure you're using the very latest version, as Yahoo (and others) change their protocol often and the pidgin team needs to adapt to it. You may need to unmask it if you're not using ~arch. Check www.pidgin.im to see what the latest version is. Kopete should work, too. It even does video. I will also add that you can use the web-based version of yahoo messenger and avoid software: http://webmessenger.yahoo.com Thanks for the reply, Thats very interesting, I wasn't aware of the web based messenger and I will investigate it. I would try out kopete, but I really don't want to have to build kdelibs on this machine and I don't have a build host available right now. I'll also try the latest pidgin, as I'm not currently running ~arch. Thanks for the tips. Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Matt Harrisoniwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:28:20AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt Harrisoniwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi guys, I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Thanks in advance Matt I've used Pidgin (formerly Gaim) with Yahoo for years and it works fine for me. Be sure you're using the very latest version, as Yahoo (and others) change their protocol often and the pidgin team needs to adapt to it. You may need to unmask it if you're not using ~arch. Check www.pidgin.im to see what the latest version is. Kopete should work, too. It even does video. I will also add that you can use the web-based version of yahoo messenger and avoid software: http://webmessenger.yahoo.com Thanks for the reply, Thats very interesting, I wasn't aware of the web based messenger and I will investigate it. I just thought of a couple more :) If full-screen flash isn't your thing (or your PC can't handle it), you can use the Yahoo Mobile website which has (or at least used to have) a fully HTML web-based messenger. http://m.yahoo.com Also, I am pretty sure you can talk to Yahoo messenger contacts via MSN Messenger, so you can also check out any MSN-compatible apps such as aMSN.
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
What version of Pidgin? I am running 2.5.8 and it connects to yahoo without problems. Did you emerge with the yahoo flag enabled, maybe that could be the culprit?
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} SSD instead of RAID1?
Anyway, the point of all this is to prevent an HD failure from stopping the system. An SSD is much safer, right? SSDs are still relatively new technology, so predicting failure rates is less reliable. What's wrong with using RAID-1? It's proven technology and totally resistant to a single HD failure. This was Grant's original question - whether SSD / flash technology is more reliable than RAID-1 of conventional disks? - and one to which no-one appeared comfortable giving a categorical answer. Stroller. I've come up with a couple reasons to wait a bit longer to switch my important systems to SSD. 1. SLC is faster and (more importantly) should last much longer than MLC. The Super Talent Ultradrive 32GB drives are priced ~$120 for MLC and ~$350 for SLC, so I'd like to wait for that SLC price to drop. It's worth mentioning though, that even conservative estimates of MLC lifetimes put them far beyond that of HD drives. 2. SSD fIrmware is being updated relatively frequently right now (especially newer SSDs) and all data is lost during a firmware update. I'm sold on SSDs as RAID1 replacements though. BTW, I read that Samsung manufactures the memory for all major brand SSDs (including Super Talent). - Grant An interesting read here: http://blogs.gentoo.org/nightmorph/2009/08/02/ssds-and-filesystems - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] copying the / partition
Very interesting. Thank you. It worked swell. Alan You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. Richard Feynman
[gentoo-user] KDE-4.2.4 shortcut for previous desktop
Hi, The subject says it all, but let me be a little more specific. I want a hot key combination for the previous desktop that was active, not previous by number. So I'd be able to to bind, eg alt-p, and use it to toggle between Desktop1 and Desktop3 many times. Is it possible and how? -- Best regards, Daniel
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
On 08/03/2009 08:25 AM, James wrote: waltw41terat gmail.com writes: # ls -alg /usr/lib64/openoffice/share/uno_packages/cache Hmm. Both my x86 machine and my ~amd64 machine have *nothing* in that directory. All of those files and directories are in my ~/.ooo3 instead. That's certainly not consistent? Here's the files under my (user) .ooo3 dir: ~/.ooo3/user/registry/cache... Sorry, I meant this directory: $l .ooo3/user/uno_packages/cache/ -rw-r--r-- 1 wa1ter users 9511 2009-08-02 09:29 log.txt drwxr-xr-x 8 wa1ter users 4096 2008-10-19 18:13 registry/ -rw-r--r-- 1 wa1ter users 1 2009-08-02 09:29 stamp.sys drwxr-xr-x 3 wa1ter users 4096 2008-12-07 15:30 uno_packages/ -rw-r--r-- 1 wa1ter users 12288 2008-12-07 15:30 uno_packages.db
[gentoo-user] Re: Java jdk
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: $l .ooo3/user/uno_packages/cache/ -rw-r--r-- 1 wa1ter users 9511 2009-08-02 09:29 log.txt drwxr-xr-x 8 wa1ter users 4096 2008-10-19 18:13 registry/ -rw-r--r-- 1 wa1ter users 1 2009-08-02 09:29 stamp.sys drwxr-xr-x 3 wa1ter users 4096 2008-12-07 15:30 uno_packages/ -rw-r--r-- 1 wa1ter users 12288 2008-12-07 15:30 uno_packages.db Here it is: drwxr-xr-x 4 james 192 Aug 3 10:03 . drwxr-xr-x 3 james72 Aug 3 09:58 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 james 106 Aug 3 10:03 log.txt drwxr-xr-x 8 james 520 Aug 3 09:58 registry -rw-r--r-- 1 james 1 Aug 3 10:03 stamp.sys drwxr-xr-x 2 james48 Aug 3 09:58 uno_packages -rw-r--r-- 1 james 12288 Aug 3 09:58 uno_packages.db The .ooo3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages is empty, the dir registry contains these files: drwxr-xr-x 2 james 48 Aug 3 09:58 com.sun.star.comp.deployment.component.PackageRegistryBackend drwxr-xr-x 3 james 112 Aug 3 09:58 com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend drwxr-xr-x 2 james 48 Aug 3 09:58 com.sun.star.comp.deployment.executable.PackageRegistryBackend drwxr-xr-x 2 james 48 Aug 3 09:58 com.sun.star.comp.deployment.help.PackageRegistryBackend drwxr-xr-x 2 james 48 Aug 3 09:58 com.sun.star.comp.deployment.script.PackageRegistryBackend drwxr-xr-x 2 james 48 Aug 3 09:58 com.sun.star.comp.deployment.sfwk.PackageRegistryBackend James
[gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.4.6 getting pulled in
On 8/3/2009 10:14 AM, walt wrote:
On 08/03/2009 07:03 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
On 8/3/2009 8:56 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
I have been running Python 2.5* on my Gentoo system ever since it went
stable x86. Today I ran an `emerge --update --deep --newuse
--with-bdeps y world -avt` and saw that python-2.4.6 was being pulled
into a new slot. I have no idea why an old version of python is being
pulled in since python is showing up at the root of a dependency tree,
marked in bold (I'm pretty sure that means it's pulled in from world).
I can't for the life of me find any package that requires python that
forces version 2.4.6 or2.5. I have Django installed, which requires
=python-2.5[sqlite], but I have the sqlite use flag enabled on my
current install of Python. No combination of equery depends and
qdepends will show me any packages that would be pulling in this old
Python.
Does anyone know what might be pulling in this old python?
Thanks,
Chris
A little more digging (ie, masking Python2.5 and watching the carnage)
revealed that the culprit is the new django-1.0.3. The diff for the
DEPEND and RDEPEND is:
RDEPEND=dev-python/imaging
sqlite? ( || (
+=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
-=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
- test? ( || (
- ( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
-=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
+ )
postgres? ( dev-python/psycopg )
mysql? (=dev-python/mysql-python-1.2.1_p2 )
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
- doc? (=dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ doc? (=dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ test? ( || (
+=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
+ ( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
+ )
Does anyone know why these changes would causepython-2.5 to get pulled
in when I already have python-2.5[sqlite] installed?
Frankly, no. But have you run python-updater yet? Is there anything left
in /usr/lib/python2.4? Are /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2 both
pointing to /usr/bin/python2.5?
Maybe try re-emerging those dependencies that you already have installed?
Does eselect python list show anything unexpected?
I upgraded these systems right after python 2.5 went stable, complete
with python-updater. Looking around confirms this as `eselect python
list` shows only python 2.5, there is no python2.4 directory on my
system anywhere, and /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2 both point to
/usr/bin/python2.5. I'm starting a run of `python-updater -o 2.5` to
cause all python-touching packages to re-merge, though I doubt that will
fix anything.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.2.4 shortcut for previous desktop
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Daniel Ilievdaniel.il...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The subject says it all, but let me be a little more specific. I want a hot key combination for the previous desktop that was active, not previous by number. So I'd be able to to bind, eg alt-p, and use it to toggle between Desktop1 and Desktop3 many times. Is it possible and how? There is a Switch to previous desktop hotkey available. Go to keyboard settings, global hotkeys, kwin, and assign some key combination to it. Does that do what you want? (I am not at home so I can't try it right now)
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE-4.2.4 shortcut for previous desktop
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:52:52 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Daniel Ilievdaniel.il...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The subject says it all, but let me be a little more specific. I want a hot key combination for the previous desktop that was active, not previous by number. So I'd be able to to bind, eg alt-p, and use it to toggle between Desktop1 and Desktop3 many times. Is it possible and how? There is a Switch to previous desktop hotkey available. Go to keyboard settings, global hotkeys, kwin, and assign some key combination to it. Does that do what you want? (I am not at home so I can't try it right now) Thanks, but that's not it. If I had bound alt-p to this action, pressing alt-p would switch desktops like this: Desktop4alt-pDesktop3alt-pDesktop2alt-pDesktop1 (it's like doing cd .. ; cd .. ; cd .. in the shell) Given that the current active Desktop is #4 and the previous active Desktop was #1, what I'm looking for is: Desktop4alt-pDesktop1alt-pDesktop4alt-pDesktop1 (like doing cd - ; cd - ; cd - ; cd - in the shell) -- Best regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
On 3 Aug 2009, at 15:56, Dale wrote: But if he has a single CPU system, it won't matter that much. I have always heard that it should be set to number of CPU's plus 1. Mine is set to 2 since I have a single CPU rig. It should be set to at least the number of *cores*, not CPUs. Back in ye olde days one used to talk about MAKEOPTS in terms of the number of CPUs, but that's when CPUs each had only one core. Now mutli- core CPUs are common. You probably intended this, but I thought I should point it out, lest any newcomers get confused. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger replacement
Hi Matt, Matt Harrison wrote on 03/08/09 17:19: I've recently needed to communicate with some people using Yahoo Messenger. It's not ideal but i'm unable to migrate them to something more open. I've got it working fine on my windows machine at work, but unfortunately I'm unable to get it working on my gentoo laptop. I've so far tried Pidgin, which seems to hang eternally when I try to connect, and I've tried looking for alternatives such as ymessenger but it seems they have been retired from portage. Does anyone have any advice on this subject? At the moment I'm having to VNC into my desktop machine just to use messenger when I'm out and about. Installing Pidgin 2.5.8 fixed the hanging session initiation problems caused by recent Yahoo network changes. Cheers, Dave
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
Stroller wrote: On 3 Aug 2009, at 15:56, Dale wrote: But if he has a single CPU system, it won't matter that much. I have always heard that it should be set to number of CPU's plus 1. Mine is set to 2 since I have a single CPU rig. It should be set to at least the number of *cores*, not CPUs. Back in ye olde days one used to talk about MAKEOPTS in terms of the number of CPUs, but that's when CPUs each had only one core. Now mutli-core CPUs are common. You probably intended this, but I thought I should point it out, lest any newcomers get confused. Stroller. You are right. I did mean cores not CPU's. Thanks for pointing that out. I do wish Google would send me copies of my emails. That's when I usually catch my boo boos. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE-4.2.4 shortcut for previous desktop
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Daniel Ilievdaniel.il...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:52:52 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Daniel Ilievdaniel.il...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The subject says it all, but let me be a little more specific. I want a hot key combination for the previous desktop that was active, not previous by number. So I'd be able to to bind, eg alt-p, and use it to toggle between Desktop1 and Desktop3 many times. Is it possible and how? There is a Switch to previous desktop hotkey available. Go to keyboard settings, global hotkeys, kwin, and assign some key combination to it. Does that do what you want? (I am not at home so I can't try it right now) Thanks, but that's not it. If I had bound alt-p to this action, pressing alt-p would switch desktops like this: Desktop4alt-pDesktop3alt-pDesktop2alt-pDesktop1 (it's like doing cd .. ; cd .. ; cd .. in the shell) Given that the current active Desktop is #4 and the previous active Desktop was #1, what I'm looking for is: Desktop4alt-pDesktop1alt-pDesktop4alt-pDesktop1 (like doing cd - ; cd - ; cd - ; cd - in the shell) I understood, I just wasn't sure what their definition of previous was, but it's apparently not the actual previous but current desktop minus one. I'm not sure there are any shortcuts that do it the way you want... As a workaround, you could set it to have only 2 desktops :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain. How would I remove these? Thanks, Mark dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * dragonfly ~ # emerge -C =cat/pack-ver -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! So far I've been unable to get this working. Tried to Google around for more info on this but found nothing so possibly it's just a spelling problem I haven't figured out? I've finished updating the machine and this is one of the last things I'd like to take care of. No rush. Doesn't hurt anything that they are there, but would be nice to clean up. Thanks, Mark dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. dragonfly ~ # dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver No matches found. dragonfly ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. dragonfly ~ # dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver No matches found. dragonfly ~ # The OP meant cat as in category, pack as in package name and ver as in version. You are supposed to supply the correct package and version and category for the command. For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0 substitute the package you want to remove as applicable. W -- Pintsize: I'm always naked! Sortir en Pantoufles: up 969 days, 19:07
[gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
My HD is getting noisier during access and I wonder if it's a fragmentation issue. I have: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 13:22 -0700, Grant wrote: My HD is getting noisier during access and I wonder if it's a fragmentation issue. Are you sure it's not a HD-about-to-die issue? -a
[gentoo-user] Virtual terminals dissapears in a 2 weeks
Hello. My Gentoo box lose ability to work with virtual terminals on ctl+alt+fN in about two weeks of uptime (it seems exactly 14 days after booting). I can switch between terminals, but there is no signal on cable on VT except X. I'm using proprietary nvidia drivers for xorg. Does anyone know hot to fix or what is guilty for that?
[gentoo-user] Re: Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On 2009-08-03, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My HD is getting noisier during access and I wonder if it's a fragmentation issue. I have: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, Not true. They become fragmented. However, it's not supposed to matter. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! The FALAFEL SANDWICH at lands on my HEAD and I visi.combecome a VEGETARIAN ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Monday 03 August 2009, Grant wrote: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / The partition is fairly full, probably the system has a hard time finding a spot to create an unfragmented file. I remember I read a partition should not be more than 50% used, maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, I would not use such a full partition for / or /home. When it happend I moved /usr to another partition. Thierry
[gentoo-user] bash stopped running python scripts...
I dunno what I did, but I've managed to break python shell scripts, which of course is playing havoc with portage. Bash no longer wants to execute the scripts with python as the interpreter, but insists on executing them as bash scripts. Python itself is still functioning properly, when invoked directly. Since I happen to have ImageMagick on this machine, the result is this: kut...@apollo ~ $ cat test.py #!/usr/bin/python import sys print Python Ok. kut...@apollo ~ $ ./test.py X connection to localhost:11.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). ./test.py: line 3: print: command not found kut...@apollo ~ $ python ./test.py Python Ok. kut...@apollo ~ $ Perl and Tcl both still work as expected, and by invoking python directly I can still get portage to merge things. For example: r...@apollo ~ $ python -O /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild /usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2-r1.ebuild install will re-merge python successfully, which I have now done for both python and bash, to no effect. Any ideas? --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] bash stopped running python scripts...
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:56:51 Mike Edenfield wrote: I dunno what I did, but I've managed to break python shell scripts, which of course is playing havoc with portage. Bash no longer wants to execute the scripts with python as the interpreter, but insists on executing them as bash scripts. Python itself is still functioning properly, when invoked directly. Since I happen to have ImageMagick on this machine, the result is this: kut...@apollo ~ $ cat test.py #!/usr/bin/python import sys print Python Ok. kut...@apollo ~ $ ./test.py X connection to localhost:11.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). ./test.py: line 3: print: command not found kut...@apollo ~ $ python ./test.py Python Ok. kut...@apollo ~ $ Perl and Tcl both still work as expected, and by invoking python directly I can still get portage to merge things. For example: r...@apollo ~ $ python -O /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild /usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2-r1.ebuild install will re-merge python successfully, which I have now done for both python and bash, to no effect. Any ideas? --Mike Did you recently merge python-3 and were so foolish as to make it the default? What is /usr/bin/python? and what version is it (-V)? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid it. There is a big difference, and things like streaming writes (downloads, bittorrents, etc) can cause extreme fragmentation. The time-honored way of fixing this is backup, delete, restore. In my case my simple defragmenter is to move a file to tmpfs and then move it back to the hard drive. I always do this to files I'm about to burn to a CD/DVD to ensure the read speed is optimal. Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? Yes, nothing has blown up yet. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:51:58 Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009, Grant wrote: # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3960872076 754795944 157266648 83% / The partition is fairly full, probably the system has a hard time finding a spot to create an unfragmented file. I remember I read a partition should not be more than 50% used, maybe I'm wrong. Well, that is just flat out wrong and simple logic tells you why. If it were true, you could never use more than half your disk space. So you buy a 1T disk to get 500G. Doesn't make sense right? The world is full of people who talk through holes in their arses. You seem to have read one of their missives. Anyway, I would not use such a full partition for / or /home. When it happend I moved /usr to another partition. You do want some breathing space, at least as big as the largest chunk of data the fs layer is going to move around in one operation. This of course is a highly variable amount. About 5% is a reasonable rule of thumb, modified by benchmarks you do on your own data. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:05:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid it. There is a big difference, and things like streaming writes (downloads, bittorrents, etc) can cause extreme fragmentation. The time-honored way of fixing this is backup, delete, restore. In my case my simple defragmenter is to move a file to tmpfs and then move it back to the hard drive. I always do this to files I'm about to burn to a CD/DVD to ensure the read speed is optimal. Until one day someone write a super-duper disk cache algorithm that delays writes safely, notices that you are putting back unmodified something you just deleted, then reverts to be deleted flag on the block pointers. meaning that nothing has changed. Lucky for us, I do not believe that such a driver has been written yet. Unlucky for us, I believe that such a driver is entirely possible. :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: bash stopped running python scripts...
Mike Edenfield wrote: I dunno what I did, but I've managed to break python shell scripts, which of course is playing havoc with portage. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279915 The whole issue seems to be handled quite strangely IMO. You would think breaking Python for all ~x86 is a major offense... -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On 2009-08-03, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 23:05:02 Paul Hartman wrote: The time-honored way of fixing this is backup, delete, restore. In my case my simple defragmenter is to move a file to tmpfs and then move it back to the hard drive. I always do this to files I'm about to burn to a CD/DVD to ensure the read speed is optimal. Until one day someone write a super-duper disk cache algorithm that delays writes safely, notices that you are putting back unmodified something you just deleted, then reverts to be deleted flag on the block pointers. meaning that nothing has changed. Lucky for us, I do not believe that such a driver has been written yet. Unlucky for us, I believe that such a driver is entirely possible. And actually quite simple once the content-addressable-disk-drive is invented. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Didn't I buy a 1951 at Packard from you last March visi.comin Cairo?
Re: [gentoo-user] bash stopped running python scripts...
On 8/3/2009 5:03 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:56:51 Mike Edenfield wrote:
kut...@apollo ~ $ cat test.py
#!/usr/bin/python
import sys
print Python Ok.
kut...@apollo ~ $ ./test.py
X connection to localhost:11.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
./test.py: line 3: print: command not found
kut...@apollo ~ $ python ./test.py
Python Ok.
kut...@apollo ~ $
Did you recently merge python-3 and were so foolish as to make it the
default?
I did emerge python-3, but then unmerged it almost immediately, and it
was never the default. Python was already broken when I merged python
3.1, which I did to see if it fixed anything, which of course it didn't.
What is /usr/bin/python? and what version is it (-V)?
r...@apollo ~ # /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.6.2
r...@apollo ~ # cat /usr/bin/python
#!/bin/bash
# Gentoo Python wrapper script
[[ ${EPYTHON} =~ (/|^python$) ]] EPYTHON=python2.6
${0%/*}/${EPYTHON:-python2.6} $@
Is that supposed to be that way? I vaguely recall from my Tcl days that
tclsh used to cause problems with the #! lines when it was a shell
script, and that you had to use some odd exec trick to get tcl shell
scripts to run. Is that still true?
Looking back through my emerge.log it appears that the last thing to
successfully run through emerge was eselect-python, if that makes a
difference.
--Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash stopped running python scripts...
On 8/3/2009 5:14 PM, Remy Blank wrote: Mike Edenfield wrote: I dunno what I did, but I've managed to break python shell scripts, which of course is playing havoc with portage. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279915 The whole issue seems to be handled quite strangely IMO. You would think breaking Python for all ~x86 is a major offense... Ah, thanks. Usually my google searches pick up stuff from bugs.gentoo.org but this time it didn't, guess it was too new :\ And yes, reverting /usr/bin/python to a symlink instead of a shell script does solve the problem. I'll just follow the bug for now and mask off eselect-python. --Mike
[gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.4.6 getting pulled in
On 8/3/2009 1:28 PM, Chris Lieb wrote:
On 8/3/2009 10:14 AM, walt wrote:
On 08/03/2009 07:03 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
On 8/3/2009 8:56 AM, Chris Lieb wrote:
I have been running Python 2.5* on my Gentoo system ever since it went
stable x86. Today I ran an `emerge --update --deep --newuse
--with-bdeps y world -avt` and saw that python-2.4.6 was being pulled
into a new slot. I have no idea why an old version of python is being
pulled in since python is showing up at the root of a dependency tree,
marked in bold (I'm pretty sure that means it's pulled in from world).
I can't for the life of me find any package that requires python that
forces version 2.4.6 or2.5. I have Django installed, which requires
=python-2.5[sqlite], but I have the sqlite use flag enabled on my
current install of Python. No combination of equery depends and
qdepends will show me any packages that would be pulling in this old
Python.
Does anyone know what might be pulling in this old python?
Thanks,
Chris
A little more digging (ie, masking Python2.5 and watching the carnage)
revealed that the culprit is the new django-1.0.3. The diff for the
DEPEND and RDEPEND is:
RDEPEND=dev-python/imaging
sqlite? ( || (
+=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
-=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
- test? ( || (
- ( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
-=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] ) )
+ )
postgres? ( dev-python/psycopg )
mysql? (=dev-python/mysql-python-1.2.1_p2 )
DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
- doc? (=dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ doc? (=dev-python/sphinx-0.3 )
+ test? ( || (
+=dev-lang/python-2.5[sqlite] )
+ ( dev-python/pysqlite:2dev-lang/python-2.5 )
+ )
Does anyone know why these changes would causepython-2.5 to get pulled
in when I already have python-2.5[sqlite] installed?
Frankly, no. But have you run python-updater yet? Is there anything left
in /usr/lib/python2.4? Are /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2 both
pointing to /usr/bin/python2.5?
Maybe try re-emerging those dependencies that you already have installed?
Does eselect python list show anything unexpected?
I upgraded these systems right after python 2.5 went stable, complete
with python-updater. Looking around confirms this as `eselect python
list` shows only python 2.5, there is no python2.4 directory on my
system anywhere, and /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2 both point to
/usr/bin/python2.5. I'm starting a run of `python-updater -o 2.5` to
cause all python-touching packages to re-merge, though I doubt that will
fix anything.
A full remerge of all Python-touching packages did not fix it. I ended
up creating my own ebuild for django-1.0.3 by taking the 1.0.3 ebuild
and replacing the dependency section with that of the 1.0.2-r1, which
worked beautifully.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j2
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:16:18 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: So my advice for others is to not take Walter's advice and use -j1 because it doesn't slow down the emerge that much. It can slow it down. Up to four times slower. Personaly, I've never had an ebuild fail due to setting MAKEOPTS=-j1 but if you want to set -j1 in make.conf, you can regain a significant part of the time loss, by running emerge with --jobs=2 (or more) to run multiple compiles in parallel while keeping each package's compilation single-threaded. -- Neil Bothwick Did you know that eskimos have 17 different words for linguist? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] bash stopped running python scripts...
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:22:08 Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 8/3/2009 5:03 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:56:51 Mike Edenfield wrote:
kut...@apollo ~ $ cat test.py
#!/usr/bin/python
import sys
print Python Ok.
kut...@apollo ~ $ ./test.py
X connection to localhost:11.0 broken (explicit kill or server
shutdown). ./test.py: line 3: print: command not found
kut...@apollo ~ $ python ./test.py
Python Ok.
kut...@apollo ~ $
Did you recently merge python-3 and were so foolish as to make it the
default?
I did emerge python-3, but then unmerged it almost immediately, and it
was never the default. Python was already broken when I merged python
3.1, which I did to see if it fixed anything, which of course it didn't.
What is /usr/bin/python? and what version is it (-V)?
r...@apollo ~ # /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.6.2
r...@apollo ~ # cat /usr/bin/python
#!/bin/bash
# Gentoo Python wrapper script
[[ ${EPYTHON} =~ (/|^python$) ]] EPYTHON=python2.6
${0%/*}/${EPYTHON:-python2.6} $@
Is that supposed to be that way? I vaguely recall from my Tcl days that
tclsh used to cause problems with the #! lines when it was a shell
script, and that you had to use some odd exec trick to get tcl shell
scripts to run. Is that still true?
I have the identical file, it works here.
Looking back through my emerge.log it appears that the last thing to
successfully run through emerge was eselect-python, if that makes a
difference.
Your original post has a X connection to localhost:11.0 broken error,
which is mighty unusual. The error is common enough, but has nothing to do
with python.
Try some brief out-of-the-box tests:
1. Does test.py run OK from a virtual console?
2. Have you logged out and back in to X since merging python?
3. Have you re-merged python-2.6 just in case your sys lib is damaged?
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? Yes, nothing has blown up yet. :) I used it a while back but couldn't really see a whole lot of difference. The numbers said it helped but not much else changed. I think logging into KDE was a little faster is about all. I'm with Alan on this one. It just doesn't get fragmented like windoze does. I think it really depends on the situation. For example I have a fast connection (20 megabit) so to maximize it I will often have several downloads in parallel, which causes files to be very fragmented. I have experienced a noticeable slowdown reading really fragmented files (2 or 3Mbyte/sec, when normal reads are around 45Mbyte/sec). At speeds that slow it can be slower than the burn speed of a DVD, which is not good, and it just slows everything down in gernal. Small files (less than 1 megabyte) are rarely fragmented and even when they are, it isn't going to have any significant effect on performance. I would defrag large files or files that are downloaded/appended, such as /usr/portage/distfiles and /var/log. If you're dealing with large digital camera pictures, audio or video then I would definitely defrag those files. Everything else in /usr/bin and so on are probably not fragmented to begin with since the files are are written at-once and whole when you emerge packages.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:16:05 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-08-03, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 23:05:02 Paul Hartman wrote: The time-honored way of fixing this is backup, delete, restore. In my case my simple defragmenter is to move a file to tmpfs and then move it back to the hard drive. I always do this to files I'm about to burn to a CD/DVD to ensure the read speed is optimal. Until one day someone write a super-duper disk cache algorithm that delays writes safely, notices that you are putting back unmodified something you just deleted, then reverts to be deleted flag on the block pointers. meaning that nothing has changed. Lucky for us, I do not believe that such a driver has been written yet. Unlucky for us, I believe that such a driver is entirely possible. And actually quite simple once the content-addressable-disk-drive is invented. We tried that already, it was called WinFS. Unfortunately, it was an idea ahead of it's time and technology was not quite ready for it yet :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] bash stopped running python scripts...
On 8/3/2009 5:48 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:22:08 Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 8/3/2009 5:03 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:56:51 Mike Edenfield wrote:
kut...@apollo ~ $ cat test.py
#!/usr/bin/python
import sys
print Python Ok.
kut...@apollo ~ $ ./test.py
X connection to localhost:11.0 broken (explicit kill or server
shutdown). ./test.py: line 3: print: command not found
kut...@apollo ~ $ python ./test.py
Python Ok.
kut...@apollo ~ $
Did you recently merge python-3 and were so foolish as to make it the
default?
I did emerge python-3, but then unmerged it almost immediately, and it
was never the default. Python was already broken when I merged python
3.1, which I did to see if it fixed anything, which of course it didn't.
What is /usr/bin/python? and what version is it (-V)?
r...@apollo ~ # /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.6.2
r...@apollo ~ # cat /usr/bin/python
#!/bin/bash
# Gentoo Python wrapper script
[[ ${EPYTHON} =~ (/|^python$) ]] EPYTHON=python2.6
${0%/*}/${EPYTHON:-python2.6} $@
Is that supposed to be that way? I vaguely recall from my Tcl days that
tclsh used to cause problems with the #! lines when it was a shell
script, and that you had to use some odd exec trick to get tcl shell
scripts to run. Is that still true?
I have the identical file, it works here.
That's very odd, as everything I've read over the past hour indicates
that it's not *supposed* to work if you put a shell script in that line,
but that's clearly not always true.
What's the #! line in your /usr/bin/emerge file?
Your original post has a X connection to localhost:11.0 broken error,
which is mighty unusual. The error is common enough, but has nothing to do
with python.
I know where that particular error is coming from. The first
non-comment line in /usr/bin/emerge is import sys. Since bash is
interpreting the script instead of python, when it gets to that line, it
runs ImageMagick's import command. It just indicates that bash
ignored the #! line and kept going.
The bug Remy sent me to did have two working solutions: replacing the
shell script with a symlink, or replacing #!/usr/bin/python with
#!/usr/bin/env python in emerge/ebuild, both of which point the #!
line at a real executable. I'm now curious why that shell script works
for anyone.
--Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Willie Wongww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. dragonfly ~ # dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver No matches found. dragonfly ~ # The OP meant cat as in category, pack as in package name and ver as in version. You are supposed to supply the correct package and version and category for the command. For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0 substitute the package you want to remove as applicable. W Please Willie, that's too obvious and was attempted before I posted the first time. ;-) I repeat that the suggestion from Jacob doesn't work: dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4 These are the packages that would be unmerged: --- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3 These are the packages that would be unmerged: --- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge dragonfly ~ # Again as history, I first noticed this issue when emerging gcc-4.3.2. I had 4.1.2 on the system, in use, as well as these old line items in gcc-config. Once I had rebuilt the system with 4.3.2 I did an emerge -C =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 and got rid of that one both from the system and this list, but this thread was about 'stranded' options which are the 3.3.3 and 3.4.4 selections. Are these options held in a file somewhere that can be edited by hand? Is there some option to gcc-config that can clean them up? Thanks, Mark
[gentoo-user] emerge mythtv fails
Some recent updates have broken my mythtv (missing libraries) so I'm of course
trying to recompile it. Whenever I try however, the following happens:
sgc ~ # emerge -va mythtv
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N] media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1 USE=aac alsa dvd ieee1394 mmx
opengl perl python xvmc
(-altivec) -autostart -debug -directv -dvb -fftw -jack -lcd -lirc
VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
Verifying ebuild manifests
Emerging (1 of 1) media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1
* mythtv-0.21_p18314.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...[
ok ]
* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [
ok ]
* checking auxfile checksums ;-) ...[
ok ]
* checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [
ok ]
* This ebuild now uses a heavily stripped down version of your CFLAGS
*
* For NVIDIA based cards, the XvMC renderer only works on
* the NVIDIA 4, 5, 6 7 series cards.
Unpacking source...
Unpacking mythtv-0.21_p18314.tar.bz2
to /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work
/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/temp/environment: line 3924:
cd:
/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work/branches/release-0-21-fixes/mythtv:
No such file or directory
sed: can't
read
/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work/branches/release-0-21-fixes/mythtv/version.pro:
No such file or directory
*
* ERROR: media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_unpack
* environment, line 3925: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* sed -e s:\`(svnversion \$\${SVNTREEDIR} 2\/dev\/null) || echo
Unknown\`:${MYTHTV_REV}: -i ${S}/version.pro || die svnversion sed
failed;
* The die message:
* svnversion sed failed
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located
at '/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located
at '/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/temp/environment'.
*
Failed to emerge media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/temp/build.log'
sgc ~ #
The error seems to be in the line:
/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/temp/environment: line 3924:
cd:
/var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work/branches/release-0-21-fixes/mythtv:
No such file or directory
There's a folder missing somewhere, and when I look, sure enough:
sgc ~ # ls /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work/
mythtv-0.21_p18314
sgc ~ #
It seems the work folder has a 'mythtv-0.21_p18314' folder, which has the
branches folder inside that.
This has been broken for over a week now (normally I just wait, resync and
these things go away if they're an ebuild problem) but I'm starting to think
it's a problem on my end. Anyone have any suggestions on how to track down
where the error is coming from. It the environment file, but I'm not sure if
that's a distributed file, or generated by portage (I suspect the later). So
where does that file get its contents from?
Thanks
Shawn
[gentoo-user] Re: Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On 08/03/2009 03:51 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Again as history, I first noticed this issue when emerging gcc-4.3.2. I had 4.1.2 on the system, in use, as well as these old line items in gcc-config. Once I had rebuilt the system with 4.3.2 I did an emerge -C =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 and got rid of that one both from the system and this list, but this thread was about 'stranded' options which are the 3.3.3 and 3.4.4 selections. Are these options held in a file somewhere that can be edited by hand? Is there some option to gcc-config that can clean them up? Have a look in /etc/env.d/gcc/ and /usr/libexec/gcc/ and /usr/lib/gcc/ for any old files or directories that shouldn't be there. Particular attention to /etc/env.d/gcc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/03/2009 03:51 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Again as history, I first noticed this issue when emerging gcc-4.3.2. I had 4.1.2 on the system, in use, as well as these old line items in gcc-config. Once I had rebuilt the system with 4.3.2 I did an emerge -C =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 and got rid of that one both from the system and this list, but this thread was about 'stranded' options which are the 3.3.3 and 3.4.4 selections. Are these options held in a file somewhere that can be edited by hand? Is there some option to gcc-config that can clean them up? Have a look in /etc/env.d/gcc/ and /usr/libexec/gcc/ and /usr/lib/gcc/ for any old files or directories that shouldn't be there. Particular attention to /etc/env.d/gcc. Thanks Walt. slocate 3.3.3/3.4.4 sort of spreads out across the system and shows a lot of stuff that probably shouldn't be around anymore. /etc/env.d/gcc looks like the list of things I want to get rid of. I'll try to double check against a system that's not having this problem and experiement a bit with just deleting this stuff. (After doing some backups first.) Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid it. There is a big difference, and things like streaming writes (downloads, bittorrents, etc) can cause extreme fragmentation. Yeah, that's when I'm hearing the HD access I didn't hear before. I run miro and it's downloading several torrents all the time. It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. Could shake help with this? To find out, should I be running it on the partially downloaded torrents? - Grant The time-honored way of fixing this is backup, delete, restore. In my case my simple defragmenter is to move a file to tmpfs and then move it back to the hard drive. I always do this to files I'm about to burn to a CD/DVD to ensure the read speed is optimal. Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? Yes, nothing has blown up yet. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mythtv fails
Shawn Haggett writes: Some recent updates have broken my mythtv (missing libraries) so I'm of course trying to recompile it. Whenever I try however, the following happens: sgc ~ # emerge -va mythtv [...] /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/temp/environment: line 3924: cd: /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work/branches/release-0-2 1-fixes/mythtv: No such file or directory sed: can't read /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1/work/branches/release-0-2 1-fixes/mythtv/version.pro: No such file or directory [...] It seems the work folder has a 'mythtv-0.21_p18314' folder, which has the branches folder inside that. This has been broken for over a week now (normally I just wait, resync and these things go away if they're an ebuild problem) but I'm starting to think it's a problem on my end. Anyone have any suggestions on how to track down where the error is coming from. It the environment file, but I'm not sure if that's a distributed file, or generated by portage (I suspect the later). So where does that file get its contents from? I just had the same problem with a fresh install of mythtv. I tried other versions, 0.21_p19961-r2 showed the same problem, but 0.21_p20877 did compile. So give that one a try. No idea where the exact problem lies, I did not even use mythtv yet. Other things to do first. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mythtv fails
On 4 Aug 2009, at 00:07, Shawn Haggett wrote: ... This has been broken for over a week now (normally I just wait, resync and these things go away if they're an ebuild problem) but I'm starting to think it's a problem on my end. I don't yet use MythTV myself, but had reason to investigate it again this week. I saw this mentioned on the MythTV-users list (probably a more useful resource for you than this list, TBH). Perhaps you may find it useful: http://wiki.github.com/MarcT/mt-mythtv Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mythtv fails
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 08:37 +0930, Shawn Haggett wrote: This has been broken for over a week now (normally I just wait, resync and these things go away if they're an ebuild problem) but I'm starting to think it's a problem on my end. Anyone have any suggestions on how to track down where the error is coming from. It the environment file, but I'm not sure if that's a distributed file, or generated by portage (I suspect the later). So where does that file get its contents from? I ran into this same problem approximately two weeks ago on my amd64 box with the same version. I also needed to rebuild mythtv due to a library upgrade. I originally thought that the problem arose when the ebuild switched from using a SVN checkout to a tarball download. However, the changelog shows that this happened on March 2nd, but I successfully emerged mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1 on April 24th. I upgraded mythtv to 0.21_p20877. It builds correctly on my system and also corrects an issue I was having with the backend process occasionally segfaulting when the frontend exited. Sorry I do not know how to fix this particular issue, but so far 0.21_p20877 has been working great for me on amd64 after a few days of light usage. Regards, Brandon Vargo
[gentoo-user] glxinfo not found
The Gentoo page http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml calls for the use of a utility called glxinfo. It does not exist on my system, and I have been unable to determine what needs to be emerged for it to appear. Anybody who has it, please tell me what package it belongs to. TIA ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've also read that it can happen eventually. I'm on ext3. I've read that ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that they try to avoid it. There is a big difference, and things like streaming writes (downloads, bittorrents, etc) can cause extreme fragmentation. Yeah, that's when I'm hearing the HD access I didn't hear before. I run miro and it's downloading several torrents all the time. It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. Could shake help with this? To find out, should I be running it on the partially downloaded torrents? Well, bittorent does not download in sequential order, so it is constantly doing random reads and writes. You may not be able to avoid the HD grinding during this kind of activity. Download to a RAM drive or SSD or something perhaps. Fragmentation definitely gets worse the nearer you are to full (which for me is always). I have seen very small files with hundreds of fragments as I live at 99% of my space used. They say a hard drive has 2 states: new and full :) It certainly wouldn't hurt to defrag the partial files, though you may want to pause your download before doing it (I don't know how much locking/blocking may occur on in-use files). Some bittorrent clients have an option to write a placeholder file; this is supposed to prevent fragmentation since it's allocating the space for the whole file immediately. Vuze is what I use, it calls this option allocate and zero new files on creation. The down-side is it could take a while to initialize if you're downloading something huge, especially if you're saving to a network or USB hard drive that's not very fast.
Re: [gentoo-user] glxinfo not found
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: The Gentoo page http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml calls for the use of a utility called glxinfo. It does not exist on my system, and I have been unable to determine what needs to be emerged for it to appear. Anybody who has it, please tell me what package it belongs to. It is in x11-apps/mesa-progs
