[gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?
After an emerge --sync on an ~x86 system, the upgrade to opera-10.60 wants to install libpng-1.2.44 in a new slot. Considering all of the problems surrounding the upgrade to libpng-1.4.3, is it safe to let portage install libpng-1.2.44?
Re: [gentoo-user] Can we please get a USB-stick install boot image?
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 07:56:31PM -0300, Cr??stian Viana wrote use UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sf.net) to create a bootable USB stick. According to http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other The Linux version is compiled using g++, while the Windows version is cross-compiled using mingw32. Both use a statically linked version of qt4 (to eliminate external library dependencies). ...but, thanks to its fancy-schmancy GUI... waltd...@i3 ~ $ emerge -pv unetbootin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-fs/mtools-3.9.11 USE=-X 267 kB [ebuild N] app-arch/p7zip-4.65-r1 USE=-doc -kde -rar (-static) -wxwidgets 2,443 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/qt-core-4.6.2-r1 USE=(-aqua) -debug -doc -exceptions -glib -iconv -optimized-qmake -pch -qt3support -ssl 156,838 kB [ebuild N] dev-lang/nasm-2.08.01 USE=-doc 765 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Crypt-PasswdMD5-1.3 5 kB [ebuild N] perl-core/MIME-Base64-3.08 17 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/qt-script-4.6.2 USE=(-aqua) -debug -exceptions -iconv -pch 0 kB [ebuild N] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.08 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.6.2 USE=mng tiff -accessibility (-aqua) -cups -dbus -debug -exceptions -glib -gtk -nas -nis -pch -qt3support -raster -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild N] perl-core/digest-base-1.16 9 kB [ebuild N] virtual/perl-digest-base-1.16 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.12 39 kB [ebuild N] sys-boot/syslinux-3.86 USE=-custom-cflags 3,649 kB [ebuild N] sys-boot/unetbootin-442 465 kB Total: 14 packages (14 new), Size of downloads: 164,491 kB -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.
Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700, Grant a écrit : I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but flash still isn't working. It works in opera. Any ideas? Try with another new profile : $ firefox -ProfileManager
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net : It is usually better and prefer the answer to all If the replier-to-all thinks of removing unwanted recipients, yes. But most of the time, people reply-to-really-all and that annoys. Among that, when replying-to-all, messages To: the mailing list are List-id/X-Mailing-List set, but the others are not. As far as the clever filter way is to filter on List-id/X-Mailing-List (not on the Subject: for mailing lists), I'd rather Reply-To on the list. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche Developpement +261 34 56 000 19
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Friday 02 July 2010 02:54:33 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Hi all, I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? We have been over this and over this and over this endless times over the past 5 years. For every stated reason why reply-to munging is considered harmful there is an equal and opposite reason why it isn't. And every time we discuss this we just leave the system as is. You should learn to deal with it. There is no correct answer. There is only an awareness of how the list you are using works. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 02:54:33 +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting conversations into private mail defeats that point. -- Neil Bothwick Engineers do it with less resistance. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: $ EAPI=3 inherit perl-module DESCRIPTION=SOAP-WSDL provides a SOAP client with WSDL support. HOMEPAGE=http://soap-wsdl.svn.sourceforge.net; SRC_URI=http://soap-wsdl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soap-wsdl/SOAP-WSDL/branches/Typemap.tar.gz - ${P}.tar.gz LICENSE=Apache-2.0 SLOT=0 KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86 IUSE=google DEPEND=${RDEPEND} virtual/perl-Module-Build RDEPEND=dev-perl/SOAP-Lite dev-perl/Class-Std-Fast src_prepare() { if use google ; then epatch ${FILESDIR}/${PN}.patch | die google patch failed fi } David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 - GrantSOAP-WSDL The patched Typemap created by hand works fine, but when you attempt to use a downloaded SOAP-WSDL and patch it failed for me, may need to manually create a patch for SOAP-WSDL. -- David Abbott (dabbott)
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Friday 02 July 2010 10:14:38 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 02:54:33 +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting conversations into private mail defeats that point. Very true. I'm not sending this very reply to Neil. I'm sending it to the entire group of people on the list. That is the entire intent of a mailing list and the Reply-To policy reflects that. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? Like others, I'm happy with this as it is. But YMMV. When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes confusion. This was discussed before on another list. I don't see this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't. Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. -- Nuno J. Silva gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? Like others, I'm happy with this as it is. But YMMV. When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes confusion. This was discussed before on another list. I don't see this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't. Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. Problem solved. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. Problem solved. But, if I understand it correctly, what the OP wants is others to mail him too, so he receives replies without being subscribed. Having a mail client with those abilities is of no use for him, nor for anyone unless they know what the person they're replying to desires. (But now I wonder how to know if a person replied by a reply we're replying wants to be CCed...) Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the list or using NNTP. -- Nuno J. Silva gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
Nuno J. Silva wrote: Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the list management software overwrite the header or just appends its address?) Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate messages at the same time. Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his signature. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. Problem solved. But, if I understand it correctly, what the OP wants is others to mail him too, so he receives replies without being subscribed. Having a mail client with those abilities is of no use for him, nor for anyone unless they know what the person they're replying to desires. (But now I wonder how to know if a person replied by a reply we're replying wants to be CCed...) Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the list or using NNTP. If he is not subscribed, how did he send a email to the list anyway? Don't you have to be subscribed to the list to send a email to it? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:38:05 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the list or using NNTP. I think Nicolas is seeking to get mail to do something it was not designed to do. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation error: pygtk (libpng)
On 2 Jul 2010, at 02:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: after updateing libpng I run revdep-rebuild, which said pygtk have to rebuild (beside others). The compilation of pygtk breaks with: Could not write function get_option_group: No ArgType for GOptionGroup* Could not write function settings_install_property: No ArgType for GParamSpec* ... Your post needed to begin I followed the instructions at http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update and when I got to X I expected Y to happen, but instead Z happened instead. Advise you resubmit your question following this formula. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:54:33AM +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Hi all, I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? Way to go! Reviving a five-year-old discussion: http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-u...@gentoo.org/msg45780.html Which at that time, was already an old discussion: http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-u...@gentoo.org/msg45855.html So let's just not much about with it, eh? Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
On 7/2/10, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug. Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming) I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no longer matches its content directory's name. -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors
Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation error: pygtk
On 07/01/2010 06:35 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 54: Called src_compile * environment, line 5365: Called python_src_compile * environment, line 5150: Called python_execute_function '-d' '-s' '--' * environment, line 4058: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die ${failure_message}; * How can I prevent the compilation problem? If requested, I will sent the other files mentioned in the above report of course -- I only want to mailbomb the mailinglist in beforehand ;) It's really hard for me to determine the exact cause because there seem to be so many variables behind the problems with libpng. You might consider recompiling GTK first. It seems to me that most of my frustrations with stuck compilations can be solved by revdep-rebuild or judicious recompilation of dependencies and making sure env-update has been done and my environment is correct. I have become so use to exec bash -l that I have an alias for it now
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-01 8:54 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy -10 this is plain wrong... Use a mail client that has 'Reply-To-List' function. Thunderbird's works very well no, so there is an excellent cross-platform mail client available that implements this functionality... as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. What do you think about changing of policy? +1, but not for the same reasons... Before TB implemented Reply-To-List, I preferred lists that munged the Reply-To, but no longer.
[gentoo-user] Re: qemu-kvm setup questions
On 07/01/2010 08:53 PM, walt wrote: The big advantage of virtualbox is their creation of the guest-additions that allow for trivially easy sharing of files on the host machine with the guest machine. The catch is that the virtualbox guest additions are custom-built for each individual guest OS, and I don't know if OS/2 is one of the supported OS's in virtualbox. I just checked the latest guest additions iso file and it does indeed have support for OS/2. I have nothing against qemu-kvm, but virtualbox's guest additions really do make life easier for file sharing and other nice things like not capturing the mouse pointer and being able to resize the guest window without changing the screen resolution of the guest.
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-02, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There are others. Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list. Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly): l - reply to list a - reply to all R - reply to original sender r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address. So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent. His intent is to receive direct replies to his posts. I don't see how his choice of mail client has any impact on that. Problem solved. Not really. The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what happens when people reply to his postings. He wants reply-to to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list for replies. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Hey, wait at a minute!! I want a gmail.comdivorce!! ... you're not Clint Eastwood!!
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: governors (was: Is cpufrequtils needed these days?)
On Freitag 02 Juli 2010, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 07:52:02PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 28 Februar 2010, Mick wrote: or is the kernel itself clever enough to manage the hardware directly these days? yes, it is. Just use the ondemand governor. I've noticed what looks like some work overloads using the ondemand governor. I'm pretty sure it is normal but I can see (user feeling) when the system loads the processor by intermittence. It is visible on some compilations tasks and when playing flash videos and compared to the performance governor. I'm still runing a 2.6.26 kernel. of course there is a little difference. Performance is not a governor. It just sets the cpu at always full speed. So it does not have any ramp up time - but also blows away a lot of energy AND generates unnecessary heat.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 02:54:33 +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing list. If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting conversations into private mail defeats that point. Precisely, except that I'm not as annoyed as some of you seem to be. Part of the way a mailing list works is that there is always discontent about the way the mailing list works. This hasn't changed much, if at all, since I started using mailing lists around 1985. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/2/10, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug. Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming) I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no longer matches its content directory's name. -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors I don't think I will use the software, I was just helping to put the pieces together, Grant has been testing it as we move forward. Once we get the pieces together and if it will work as intended I think we could contact upstream to help with a more sensible approach to packaging the patch for the stock SOAP-WSDL, so updating will be easier to maintain. Just my 2c :) -- David Abbott (dabbott)
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting conversations into private mail defeats that point. Precisely, except that I'm not as annoyed as some of you seem to be. Part of the way a mailing list works is that there is always discontent about the way the mailing list works. This hasn't changed much, if at all, since I started using mailing lists around 1985. Things especially fun when it is both a mailing list and a newsgroup.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can we please get a USB-stick install boot image?
=== On Wed, 06/30, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: === able to modify a CD boot image get Gentoo to boot from a USB stick. === I have done that. Here's basically what I did. #!/bin/sh ISO=/home/ftp/pub/install/install-amd64-minimal-20081213.iso mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdc1 dd if=/usr/share/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sdc || exit mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 $ISO /mnt/iso || exit mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt/media1 || exit cp -r /mnt/iso/* /mnt/media1 || exit sync mv /mnt/media1/isolinux/* /mnt/media1 mv /mnt/media1/isolinux.cfg /mnt/media1/syslinux.cfg rm -rf /mnt/media1/isolinux* mv /mnt/media1/memtest86 /mnt/media1/memtest umount /mnt/iso #vim /mnt/media1/syslinux.cfg sed -i -e s:cdroot:cdroot slowusb: \ -e s:kernel memtest86:kernel memtest: /mnt/media1/syslinux.cfg umount /mnt/media1 syslinux /dev/sdc1 -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
[gentoo-user] postgresql-base-9.0_beta2-r1 and thread safety
i'm getting the following compile error when emerging postgresql-base-9.0_beta2-r1: checking thread safety of required library functions... no configure: error: thread test program failed This platform is not thread-safe. Check the file 'config.log' or compile and run src/test/thread/thread_test for the exact reason. so i followed the instructions: cd /var/tmp/portage/dev-db/postgresql-base-9.0_beta2-r1/work/postgresql-9.0beta2/ ./configure ... checking thread safety of required library functions... yes ... make ... cd src/test/thread make ./thread_test yields: Your errno is thread-safe. Your system has sterror_r(); it does not need strerror(). Your system has getpwuid_r(); it does not need getpwuid(). Your system has getaddrinfo(); it does not need gethostbyname() or gethostbyname_r(). Your platform is thread-safe. any hints? kelly hirai
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:19:36 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Not really. The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what happens when people reply to his postings. He wants reply-to to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list for replies. So he wants other people to take the trouble to reply, but he won't take the trouble to look for the replies? If he really finds it so difficult to look for replies to his mails (some mailers will highlight them), he could always set up a filter to copy replies to him to his mailbox. You don't always need everyone else to change to get what you want. -- Neil Bothwick A TRUE Klingon warrior does not comment his code! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?
=== On Fri, 07/02, Graham Murray wrote: === After an emerge --sync on an ~x86 system, the upgrade to opera-10.60 wants to install libpng-1.2.44 in a new slot. Considering all of the problems surrounding the upgrade to libpng-1.4.3, is it safe to let portage install libpng-1.2.44? === Yes, but be prepared for some extra work and a lengthy upgrade (half your system will be recompiled). However, I have not tried Opera, but it should work. See flameeye's blog first. But ignore the part about the libpng-1.4.x-update.sh script being a hack. I found that necessary and it worked for me. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?
Keith Dart wrote: === On Fri, 07/02, Graham Murray wrote: === After an emerge --sync on an ~x86 system, the upgrade to opera-10.60 wants to install libpng-1.2.44 in a new slot. Considering all of the problems surrounding the upgrade to libpng-1.4.3, is it safe to let portage install libpng-1.2.44? === Yes, but be prepared for some extra work and a lengthy upgrade (half your system will be recompiled). However, I have not tried Opera, but it should work. See flameeye's blog first. But ignore the part about the libpng-1.4.x-update.sh script being a hack. I found that necessary and it worked for me. -- Keith Dart This appears to be the opposite of a upgrade. He has a package that wants the OLD slotted version of libpng not the NEW slotted version. If I understand that correctly, he has already done the upgrade but now something needs the old package installed in addition to the new one. OP, my thinking is this. Be prepared for some packages to rebuild when you run revdep-rebuild. Part of me says that there won't be any but one can never be certain of these things. Also, when I did my upgrade I had no GUI until it rebuilt the packages. Again, one can never be certain of these things. I would do this: emerge opera run revdep-rebuild -i and say a prayer if you think it will help. emerge -uvDNa world and hope it comes out clean, provided it was clean before you started this. Wouldn't hurt to have a second puter around to get help here if you run into trouble. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:49:30 -0500, Dale wrote: This appears to be the opposite of a upgrade. He has a package that wants the OLD slotted version of libpng not the NEW slotted version. If I understand that correctly, he has already done the upgrade but now something needs the old package installed in addition to the new one. The joys of running binary software... -- Neil Bothwick A seminar on time travel will be held 2 weeks ago. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 - GrantSOAP-WSDL The patched Typemap created by hand works fine, but when you attempt to use a downloaded SOAP-WSDL and patch it failed for me, may need to manually create a patch for SOAP-WSDL. -- David Abbott (dabbott) I'm sure I'm confused because of my weak understanding of this. I thought Typemap was a component of the downloaded SOAP-WSDL. If not, what is Typemap and how did you patch it by hand? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug. Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D My mistake, I apologize. After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming) I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no longer matches its content directory's name. -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors The google-api-adwords-perl ebuild in the bug works great for me so far. I've only done basic testing with it, but it appears to be working. I will be able to do more extensive testing hopefully over the next few days. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?
=== On Fri, 07/02, Dale wrote: === This appears to be the opposite of a upgrade. He has a package that wants the OLD slotted version of libpng not the NEW slotted version. If I understand that correctly, he has already done the upgrade but now something needs the old package installed in addition to the new one. === Oh right, sorry, didn't look closely enough. I would recommend avoiding that until Opera is upgraded. I did have for a while both 1.2 and 1.4 slots installed and some things got dynamically linked with both of them. That caused me some problems. Overall, libpng12 to libpng14 was a real pain... But now that's over with. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 - GrantSOAP-WSDL The patched Typemap created by hand works fine, but when you attempt to use a downloaded SOAP-WSDL and patch it failed for me, may need to manually create a patch for SOAP-WSDL. -- David Abbott (dabbott) I'm sure I'm confused because of my weak understanding of this. I thought Typemap was a component of the downloaded SOAP-WSDL. If not, what is Typemap and how did you patch it by hand? - Grant Typemap is a branch of soap-wsdl; http://soap-wsdl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soap-wsdl/SOAP-WSDL/branches/ SOAP::WSDL I don't think can even be used for this; http://search.cpan.org/~mkutter/SOAP-WSDL-2.00.10/lib/SOAP/WSDL.pm I am with you Grant, it is confusing, that is why I said google needs to make a patched version of Typemap to use with this and call it something line google-typemap-0.1 and keep it updated to use with their google-api-adwords-perl. This may happen as it appears the project is very active. http://code.google.com/p/google-api-adwords-perl/source/browse/trunk/README -- David Abbott (dabbott)
Re: [gentoo-user] who wants to downgrade my gcc ?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:22:56 -0500, Dale wrote: @world includes @system. But the problem is not that emerge world is skipping it but that it wants to downgrade gcc:4.4. From my understanding, world includes @system but @world does not. I know here on my rig, I run emerge -uvDNa world and it updates everything installed including deps and the system packages. If I run @world, it skips the system packages. At least that is the last time I tried it which was not to long ago. One reason I remember this is because of the discussion I had with the devs on -dev. That is why @system is in /var/lib/portage/world_sets. I noticed a few weeks ago that there are a couple others added to it as well. The devs did it that way so that when folks like me upgrade the old fashioned way and just use world instead of @system and @world. Has this changed? No, the world_sets file still includes @system by default, which is why @world includes @system. The additions are from when you emerged sets, which adds then to world_sets. But if you removed, temporarily, the @system from the world sets, then you get just one. Did this a while back and it worked at the time. Not going to say it would work today tho. We all know how portage is. It is like shooting a bullet with another bullet. ;-) As was pointed out to me many times, @system is not the same as system. Same can be said for world and @world. Sorry so long to reply. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?
David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to work clean. I thought you got it working before when you posted the patched Typemap for me to download. Did it work then but not now? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug. Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming) I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no longer matches its content directory's name. -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors I don't think I will use the software, I was just helping to put the pieces together, Grant has been testing it as we move forward. Once we get the pieces together and if it will work as intended I think we could contact upstream to help with a more sensible approach to packaging the patch for the stock SOAP-WSDL, so updating will be easier to maintain. Just my 2c :) -- David Abbott (dabbott) You think Google will change the way it packages the SOAP-WSDL patch if we request it? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Samba freakiness; why isn't it reading MY /etc/samba/smb.conf file?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:44:58 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: I just rebooted the computer to make sure this wasn't some weird RAM remnant, but the computer booted up: carter ~ # /etc/init.d/samba status * status: started carter ~ # cat /etc/samba/smb.conf [global] workgroup = MYGROUP security = user encrypt passwords = yes guest account = guest wins support = yes local master = yes os level = 99 domain master = yes preferred master = yes hosts allow = 192.168.1. 127. interfaces = eth0 [tmp] path=/tmp writeable=yes [homes] path=/samba/michael valid users=michael writable=yes carter ~ # testparm Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf rlimit_max: rlimit_max (1024) below minimum Windows limit (16384) Processing section [tmp] Processing section [homes] Loaded services file OK. Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions [global] workgroup = MYGROUP interfaces = eth0 guest account = guest os level = 99 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes wins support = Yes hosts allow = 192.168.1., 127. [tmp] path = /tmp read only = No [homes] path = /samba/michael valid users = michael read only = No At the top there you see that Samba IS started. Under that you see MY smb.conf, and at the bottom you see the smb.conf that's being loaded. Nothing really in the logs that would suggest what's going on here: carter ~ # cat /var/log/samba/* cat: /var/log/samba/cores: Is a directory [2010/06/21 16:39:34, 0] nmbd/nmbd.c:854(main) nmbd version 3.4.6 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2009 [2010/06/21 16:39:34, 0] nmbd/asyncdns.c:155(start_async_dns) started asyncdns process 20980 [2010/06/21 16:39:34, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:337(become_domain_master_browser_wins) become_domain_master_browser_wins: Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup MYGROUP, subnet UNICAST_SUBNET. [2010/06/21 16:39:34, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:351(become_domain_master_browser_wins) become_domain_master_browser_wins: querying WINS server from IP 192.168.1.2 for domain master browser name MYGROUP1b on workgroup MYGROUP [2010/06/21 16:39:40, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:110(become_domain_master_stage2) * Samba server CARTER is now a domain master browser for workgroup MYGROUP on subnet UNICAST_SUBNET * [2010/06/21 16:39:40, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:292(become_domain_master_browser_bcast) become_domain_master_browser_bcast: Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup MYGROUP on subnet 192.168.1.2 [2010/06/21 16:39:40, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:305(become_domain_master_browser_bcast) become_domain_master_browser_bcast: querying subnet 192.168.1.2 for domain master browser on workgroup MYGROUP [2010/06/21 16:39:48, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:110(become_domain_master_stage2) * Samba server CARTER is now a domain master browser for workgroup MYGROUP on subnet 192.168.1.2 * [2010/06/21 16:39:56, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:395(become_local_master_stage2) * Samba name server CARTER is now a local master browser for workgroup MYGROUP on subnet 192.168.1.2 * [2010/06/21 16:39:33, 0] smbd/server.c:1073(main) smbd version 3.4.6 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2009 [2010/06/21 16:39:33, 0] printing/print_cups.c:103(cups_connect) Unable to connect to CUPS server /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 - No such file or directory [2010/06/21 16:39:33, 0] printing/print_cups.c:103(cups_connect) Unable to connect to CUPS server /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 - No such file or directory [2010/06/21 16:39:34, 0] smbd/server.c:457(smbd_open_one_socket) smbd_open_once_socket: open_socket_in: Address already in use [2010/06/21 16:39:34, 0] smbd/server.c:457(smbd_open_one_socket) smbd_open_once_socket: open_socket_in: Address already in use I recently ran into what appears to be the same issue on OpenBSD. For some reason commenting out the interfaces setting did it for me. I got a feeling there maybe a bug, but I haven't had time to look into it more. -- Best Regards, Greg Fitzgerald pgp34Xjtb50oR.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply
On 2010-07-02, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:19:36 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Not really. The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what happens when people reply to his postings. He wants reply-to to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list for replies. So he wants other people to take the trouble to reply, but he won't take the trouble to look for the replies? That's the way it read to me. If that's not what the OP meant, then I apologize for misunderstanding what he wrote. If he really finds it so difficult to look for replies to his mails (some mailers will highlight them), he could always set up a filter to copy replies to him to his mailbox. Yup. Since the mailing list is already sending him a reply, why he wants a second one is beyond me. You don't always need everyone else to change to get what you want. Well, I know some people who are like that... -- Grant