[gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-02 Thread Graham Murray
After an emerge --sync on an ~x86 system, the upgrade to opera-10.60
wants to install libpng-1.2.44 in a new slot. Considering all of the
problems surrounding the upgrade to  libpng-1.4.3, is it safe to let
portage install libpng-1.2.44?



Re: [gentoo-user] Can we please get a USB-stick install boot image?

2010-07-02 Thread waltdnes
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 07:56:31PM -0300, Cr??stian Viana wrote
 use UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sf.net) to create a bootable USB stick.

  According to http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other

 The Linux version is compiled using g++, while the Windows version
 is cross-compiled using mingw32. Both use a statically linked version
 of qt4 (to eliminate external library dependencies).

...but, thanks to its fancy-schmancy GUI...

waltd...@i3 ~ $ emerge -pv unetbootin

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/mtools-3.9.11  USE=-X 267 kB
[ebuild  N] app-arch/p7zip-4.65-r1  USE=-doc -kde -rar (-static) 
-wxwidgets 2,443 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-core-4.6.2-r1  USE=(-aqua) -debug -doc -exceptions 
-glib -iconv -optimized-qmake -pch -qt3support -ssl 156,838 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-lang/nasm-2.08.01  USE=-doc 765 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/Crypt-PasswdMD5-1.3  5 kB
[ebuild  N] perl-core/MIME-Base64-3.08  17 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-script-4.6.2  USE=(-aqua) -debug -exceptions 
-iconv -pch 0 kB
[ebuild  N] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.08  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.6.2  USE=mng tiff -accessibility
(-aqua) -cups -dbus -debug -exceptions -glib -gtk -nas -nis -pch
-qt3support -raster -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  N] perl-core/digest-base-1.16  9 kB
[ebuild  N] virtual/perl-digest-base-1.16  0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.12  39 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-boot/syslinux-3.86  USE=-custom-cflags 3,649 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-boot/unetbootin-442  465 kB

Total: 14 packages (14 new), Size of downloads: 164,491 kB

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-02 Thread netfab
Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
Grant a écrit :
 
 I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
 pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
 flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
 

Try with another new profile :

$ firefox -ProfileManager



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
 Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net :
It is usually better and prefer the answer to all

If the replier-to-all thinks of removing unwanted recipients, yes.
But most of the time, people reply-to-really-all and that annoys.

Among that, when replying-to-all, messages To: the mailing list are
List-id/X-Mailing-List set, but the others are not.
As far as the clever filter way is to filter on
List-id/X-Mailing-List (not on the Subject: for mailing
lists), I'd rather Reply-To on the list.

-- 

   Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat:
Administration Systeme, Recherche  Developpement
+261 34 56 000 19



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 02 July 2010 02:54:33 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing
 the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address.  Most mailing lists I
 use don't do that.
 
 It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit
 to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing
 list.
 
 What do you think about changing of policy?



We have been over this and over this and over this endless times over the past 
5 years.

For every stated reason why reply-to munging is considered harmful there is an 
equal and opposite reason why it isn't. And every time we discuss this we just 
leave the system as is.

You should learn to deal with it. There is no correct answer. There is only an 
awareness of how the list you are using works.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 02:54:33 +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:

 It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit
 to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing
 list.

If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies
is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate
and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list
is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting
conversations into private mail defeats that point.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Engineers do it with less resistance.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread David Abbott
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snip]

 # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation
 # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
 # $Header: $

 EAPI=3

 inherit perl-module

 DESCRIPTION=SOAP-WSDL provides a SOAP client with WSDL support.
 HOMEPAGE=http://soap-wsdl.svn.sourceforge.net;
 SRC_URI=http://soap-wsdl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soap-wsdl/SOAP-WSDL/branches/Typemap.tar.gz
 - ${P}.tar.gz
 LICENSE=Apache-2.0
 SLOT=0
 KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86
 IUSE=google

 DEPEND=${RDEPEND}
        virtual/perl-Module-Build
 RDEPEND=dev-perl/SOAP-Lite
        dev-perl/Class-Std-Fast

 src_prepare() {
        if use google ; then
                epatch ${FILESDIR}/${PN}.patch | die google patch failed
        fi
 }

 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

 - GrantSOAP-WSDL


The patched Typemap created by hand works fine, but when you attempt
to use a downloaded SOAP-WSDL and patch it failed for me, may need to
manually create a patch for SOAP-WSDL.

-- 
David Abbott (dabbott)



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 02 July 2010 10:14:38 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 02:54:33 +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
  It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit
  to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing
  list.
 
 If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies
 is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate
 and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list
 is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting
 conversations into private mail defeats that point.

Very true.

I'm not sending this very reply to Neil. I'm sending it to the entire group of 
people on the list.

That is the entire intent of a mailing list and the Reply-To policy reflects 
that.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:

 Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net  wrote:


 I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing
 the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address.  Most mailing
 lists I use don't do that.

 It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it
 permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole
 mailing list.

 What do you think about changing of policy?

Like others, I'm happy with this as it is. But YMMV.

 When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes
 confusion.  This was discussed before on another list.  I don't see
 this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't.

Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the
list management software overwrite the header or just appends its
address?)

Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate
messages at the same time. 

Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his
signature.

-- 
Nuno J. Silva
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
  Grant Edwards wrote:
  On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net  wrote:
  I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing
  the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address.  Most mailing
  lists I use don't do that.
  
  It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it
  permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole
  mailing list.
  
  What do you think about changing of policy?
 
 Like others, I'm happy with this as it is. But YMMV.
 
  When they start a new list and it is not set up this way, it causes
  confusion.  This was discussed before on another list.  I don't see
  this changing anytime soon and hope it doesn't.
 
 Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the
 list management software overwrite the header or just appends its
 address?)
 
 Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate
 messages at the same time.
 
 Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his
 signature.


Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There 
are others.

Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list.

Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly):

l - reply to list
a - reply to all
R - reply to original sender
r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address.

So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, 
just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent.

Problem solved.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:

 On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote:

 Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the
 list management software overwrite the header or just appends its
 address?)
 
 Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate
 messages at the same time.
 
 Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his
 signature.


 Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There 
 are others.

 Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list.

 Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly):

 l - reply to list
 a - reply to all
 R - reply to original sender
 r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address.

 So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome, 
 just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent.

 Problem solved.

But, if I understand it correctly, what the OP wants is others to mail
him too, so he receives replies without being subscribed. 

Having a mail client with those abilities is of no use for him, nor for
anyone unless they know what the person they're replying to desires.

(But now I wonder how to know if a person replied by a reply we're
replying wants to be CCed...)

Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be
bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the
list or using NNTP.

-- 
Nuno J. Silva
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Dale

Nuno J. Silva wrote:

Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com  writes:

   

On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
 
   

Is there a way for someone to add another address to Reply-To? (Does the
list management software overwrite the header or just appends its
address?)

Such a way would suit the OP and people who don't want duplicate
messages at the same time.

Meanwhile the OP might want to add a request to be CC'ed to his
signature.
   


Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There
are others.

Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list.

Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly):

l - reply to list
a - reply to all
R - reply to original sender
r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address.

So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the outcome,
just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent.

Problem solved.
 

But, if I understand it correctly, what the OP wants is others to mail
him too, so he receives replies without being subscribed.

Having a mail client with those abilities is of no use for him, nor for
anyone unless they know what the person they're replying to desires.

(But now I wonder how to know if a person replied by a reply we're
replying wants to be CCed...)

Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be
bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the
list or using NNTP.

   


If he is not subscribed, how did he send a email to the list anyway?  
Don't you have to be subscribed to the list to send a email to it?


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:38:05 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
 Or is Nicolas looking to reply to everyone when he writes? That would be
 bad, as there are people who prefer to receive messages through the
 list or using NNTP.

I think Nicolas is seeking to get mail to do something it was not designed to 
do.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation error: pygtk (libpng)

2010-07-02 Thread Stroller


On 2 Jul 2010, at 02:35, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:


after updateing libpng I run revdep-rebuild, which
said pygtk have to rebuild (beside others).
The compilation of pygtk breaks with:

Could not write function get_option_group: No ArgType for  
GOptionGroup*
Could not write function settings_install_property: No ArgType for  
GParamSpec*

...


Your post needed to begin I followed the instructions at
http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update
and when I got to X I expected Y to happen, but instead Z happened  
instead.


Advise you resubmit your question following this formula.

Stroller.
 



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:54:33AM +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing
 the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address.  Most mailing lists I
 use don't do that.
 
 It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit
 to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing
 list.
 
 What do you think about changing of policy?

Way to go! Reviving a five-year-old discussion:

http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-u...@gentoo.org/msg45780.html

Which at that time, was already an old discussion:

http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-u...@gentoo.org/msg45855.html

So let's just not much about with it, eh?

Cheers,

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread Arttu V.
On 7/2/10, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug.
Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D

After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing
something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming)
I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their
src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC
might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no
longer matches its content directory's name.

-- 
Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors



Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation error: pygtk

2010-07-02 Thread Bill Longman
On 07/01/2010 06:35 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  * Call stack:
  * ebuild.sh, line   54:  Called src_compile
  *   environment, line 5365:  Called python_src_compile
  *   environment, line 5150:  Called python_execute_function '-d' '-s' '--'
  *   environment, line 4058:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *   die ${failure_message};
  *
 
 
 How can I prevent the compilation problem?
 If requested, I will sent the other files mentioned in the above 
 report of course -- I only want to mailbomb the mailinglist in
 beforehand ;)

It's really hard for me to determine the exact cause because there seem
to be so many variables behind the problems with libpng. You might
consider recompiling GTK first. It seems to me that most of my
frustrations with stuck compilations can be solved by revdep-rebuild or
judicious recompilation of dependencies and making sure env-update has
been done and my environment is correct. I have become so use to exec
bash -l that I have an alias for it now



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-07-01 8:54 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
 I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing
 the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address.  Most mailing lists I
 use don't do that.
 
 It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy

-10 this is plain wrong...

Use a mail client that has 'Reply-To-List' function.

Thunderbird's works very well no, so there is an excellent
cross-platform mail client available that implements this functionality...

 as it permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the
 whole mailing list.
 
 What do you think about changing of policy?

+1, but not for the same reasons...

Before TB implemented Reply-To-List, I preferred lists that munged the
Reply-To, but no longer.



[gentoo-user] Re: qemu-kvm setup questions

2010-07-02 Thread walt

On 07/01/2010 08:53 PM, walt wrote:


The big advantage of virtualbox is their creation of the guest-additions
that allow for trivially easy sharing of files on the host machine with the
guest machine.

The catch is that the virtualbox guest additions are custom-built for each
individual guest OS, and I don't know if OS/2 is one of the supported OS's
in virtualbox.


I just checked the latest guest additions iso file and it does indeed have
support for OS/2.  I have nothing against qemu-kvm, but virtualbox's guest
additions really do make life easier for file sharing and other nice things
like not capturing the mouse pointer and being able to resize the guest
window without changing the screen resolution of the guest.





[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-02, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Friday 02 July 2010 12:01:09 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
  Grant Edwards wrote:
  On 2010-07-02, Nicolas Sebrechtnicolas.s-...@laposte.net  wrote:
  I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing
  the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address.  Most mailing
  lists I use don't do that.
  
  It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it
  permit to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole
  mailing list.

 Or, he could use a mailer that understands mailing lists, like kmail. There 
 are others.

 Filter list mail into a folder, and tell the mailer it is for a list.

 Decide how you want to reply and press (the composer deals with it correctly):

 l - reply to list
 a - reply to all
 R - reply to original sender
 r - reply to whatever seems to be default reply address.

 So instead of blindly clicking reply and getting all upset about the
 outcome, just press one key and the mailer obeys YOUR intent.

His intent is to receive direct replies to his posts.  I don't see how
his choice of mail client has any impact on that.

 Problem solved.

Not really.  The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what
happens when people reply to his postings.  He wants reply-to to
contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a
direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list
for replies.

-- 
Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! Hey, wait
  at   a minute!!  I want a
  gmail.comdivorce!! ... you're not
   Clint Eastwood!!




Re: [gentoo-user] OT: governors (was: Is cpufrequtils needed these days?)

2010-07-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 02 Juli 2010, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 07:52:02PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Sonntag 28 Februar 2010, Mick wrote:
   or is the kernel itself clever enough to manage the hardware directly
   these days?
  
  yes, it is. Just use the ondemand governor.
 
 I've noticed what looks like some work overloads using the ondemand
 governor. I'm pretty sure it is normal but I can see (user feeling) when
 the system loads the processor by intermittence. It is visible on some
 compilations tasks and when playing flash videos and compared to the
 performance governor. I'm still runing a 2.6.26 kernel.

of course there is a little difference. Performance is not a governor. It just 
sets the cpu at always full speed. So it does not have any ramp up time - but 
also blows away a lot of energy AND generates unnecessary heat.



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 02:54:33 +0200, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:

  It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy as it permit
  to be notified of an answer without having to track the whole mailing
  list.

 If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies
 is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate
 and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list
 is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting
 conversations into private mail defeats that point.


Precisely, except that I'm not as annoyed as some of you seem to be.
Part of the way a mailing list works is that there is always discontent
about the way the mailing list works.  This hasn't changed much, if at
all, since I started using mailing lists around 1985.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread David Abbott
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7/2/10, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug.
 Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D

 After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing
 something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming)
 I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their
 src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC
 might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no
 longer matches its content directory's name.

 --
 Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors


I don't think I will use the software, I was just helping to put the
pieces together, Grant has been testing it as we move forward. Once we
get the pieces together and if it will work as intended I think we
could contact upstream to help with a more sensible approach to
packaging the patch for the stock SOAP-WSDL, so updating will be
easier to maintain.
Just my 2c :)


-- 
David Abbott (dabbott)



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 If I post to the list, I expect a reply via the list. Getting two replies
 is annoying, especially if I don't realise the private one is a duplicate
 and reply to it before checking the list. One of the main points of a list
 is that it is a public discussion, archived for all to see, fragmenting
 conversations into private mail defeats that point.


 Precisely, except that I'm not as annoyed as some of you seem to be.
 Part of the way a mailing list works is that there is always discontent
 about the way the mailing list works.  This hasn't changed much, if at
 all, since I started using mailing lists around 1985.


Things especially fun when it is both a mailing list and a newsgroup.



Re: [gentoo-user] Can we please get a USB-stick install boot image?

2010-07-02 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Wed, 06/30, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: ===
 able to modify a CD boot image get Gentoo to boot from a
 USB stick.
===

I have done that. Here's basically what I did.

#!/bin/sh

ISO=/home/ftp/pub/install/install-amd64-minimal-20081213.iso

mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdc1
dd if=/usr/share/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sdc || exit
mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 $ISO /mnt/iso || exit
mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt/media1 || exit
cp -r /mnt/iso/* /mnt/media1 || exit
sync
mv /mnt/media1/isolinux/* /mnt/media1
mv /mnt/media1/isolinux.cfg /mnt/media1/syslinux.cfg
rm -rf /mnt/media1/isolinux*
mv /mnt/media1/memtest86 /mnt/media1/memtest

umount /mnt/iso
#vim /mnt/media1/syslinux.cfg 
sed -i -e s:cdroot:cdroot slowusb: \
 -e s:kernel memtest86:kernel memtest: /mnt/media1/syslinux.cfg

umount /mnt/media1
syslinux /dev/sdc1




-- Keith Dart

-- 

-- ~
   Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz
   public key: ID: 19017044
   http://www.dartworks.biz/
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[gentoo-user] postgresql-base-9.0_beta2-r1 and thread safety

2010-07-02 Thread kelly hirai
i'm getting the following compile error when emerging
postgresql-base-9.0_beta2-r1:

checking thread safety of required library functions... no
configure: error: thread test program failed
This platform is not thread-safe.  Check the file 'config.log' or compile
and run src/test/thread/thread_test for the exact reason.

so i followed the instructions:

cd
/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/postgresql-base-9.0_beta2-r1/work/postgresql-9.0beta2/
./configure
...
checking thread safety of required library functions... yes
...
make
...
cd src/test/thread
make
./thread_test

yields:

Your errno is thread-safe.
Your system has sterror_r();  it does not need strerror().
Your system has getpwuid_r();  it does not need getpwuid().
Your system has getaddrinfo();  it does not need gethostbyname()
  or gethostbyname_r().

Your platform is thread-safe.

any hints?

kelly hirai



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:19:36 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

 Not really.  The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change what
 happens when people reply to his postings.  He wants reply-to to
 contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a
 direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list
 for replies.

So he wants other people to take the trouble to reply, but he won't take
the trouble to look for the replies? If he really finds it so difficult
to look for replies to his mails (some mailers will highlight them), he
could always set up a filter to copy replies to him to his mailbox. You
don't always need everyone else to change to get what you want.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-02 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Fri, 07/02, Graham Murray wrote: ===
 After an emerge --sync on an ~x86 system, the upgrade to opera-10.60
 wants to install libpng-1.2.44 in a new slot. Considering all of the
 problems surrounding the upgrade to  libpng-1.4.3, is it safe to let
 portage install libpng-1.2.44?

===

Yes, but be prepared for some extra work and a lengthy upgrade (half
your system will be recompiled). However, I have not tried Opera, but
it should work.

See flameeye's blog first. But ignore the part about
the libpng-1.4.x-update.sh script being a hack. I found that necessary
and it worked for me. 


-- Keith Dart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-02 Thread Dale

Keith Dart wrote:

=== On Fri, 07/02, Graham Murray wrote: ===
   

After an emerge --sync on an ~x86 system, the upgrade to opera-10.60
wants to install libpng-1.2.44 in a new slot. Considering all of the
problems surrounding the upgrade to  libpng-1.4.3, is it safe to let
portage install libpng-1.2.44?
 

===

Yes, but be prepared for some extra work and a lengthy upgrade (half
your system will be recompiled). However, I have not tried Opera, but
it should work.

See flameeye's blog first. But ignore the part about
the libpng-1.4.x-update.sh script being a hack. I found that necessary
and it worked for me.


-- Keith Dart

   


This appears to be the opposite of a upgrade.  He has a package that 
wants the OLD slotted version of libpng not the NEW slotted version.  If 
I understand that correctly, he has already done the upgrade but now 
something needs the old package installed in addition to the new one.


OP, my thinking is this.  Be prepared for some packages to rebuild when 
you run revdep-rebuild.  Part of me says that there won't be any but one 
can never be certain of these things.   Also, when I did my upgrade I 
had no GUI until it rebuilt the packages.  Again, one can never be 
certain of these things.  I would do this:


emerge opera
run revdep-rebuild -i and say a prayer if you think it will help.
emerge -uvDNa world and hope it comes out clean, provided it was clean 
before you started this.


Wouldn't hurt to have a second puter around to get help here if you run 
into trouble.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:49:30 -0500, Dale wrote:

 This appears to be the opposite of a upgrade.  He has a package that 
 wants the OLD slotted version of libpng not the NEW slotted version.
 If I understand that correctly, he has already done the upgrade but now 
 something needs the old package installed in addition to the new one.

The joys of running binary software...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread Grant
 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

 - GrantSOAP-WSDL


 The patched Typemap created by hand works fine, but when you attempt
 to use a downloaded SOAP-WSDL and patch it failed for me, may need to
 manually create a patch for SOAP-WSDL.

 --
 David Abbott (dabbott)

I'm sure I'm confused because of my weak understanding of this.  I
thought Typemap was a component of the downloaded SOAP-WSDL.  If not,
what is Typemap and how did you patch it by hand?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread Grant
 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug.
 Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D

My mistake, I apologize.

 After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing
 something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming)
 I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their
 src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC
 might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no
 longer matches its content directory's name.

 --
 Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors

The google-api-adwords-perl ebuild in the bug works great for me so
far.  I've only done basic testing with it, but it appears to be
working.  I will be able to do more extensive testing hopefully over
the next few days.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-02 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Fri, 07/02, Dale wrote: ===
 This appears to be the opposite of a upgrade.  He has a package that 
 wants the OLD slotted version of libpng not the NEW slotted version.
 If I understand that correctly, he has already done the upgrade but
 now something needs the old package installed in addition to the new
 one.

===

Oh right, sorry, didn't look closely enough. 

I would recommend avoiding that until Opera is upgraded. I did have for
a while both 1.2 and 1.4 slots installed and some things got dynamically
linked with both of them. That caused me some problems.

Overall, libpng12 to libpng14 was a real pain... But now that's over
with.



-- Keith Dart

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread David Abbott
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

 - GrantSOAP-WSDL


 The patched Typemap created by hand works fine, but when you attempt
 to use a downloaded SOAP-WSDL and patch it failed for me, may need to
 manually create a patch for SOAP-WSDL.

 --
 David Abbott (dabbott)

 I'm sure I'm confused because of my weak understanding of this.  I
 thought Typemap was a component of the downloaded SOAP-WSDL.  If not,
 what is Typemap and how did you patch it by hand?

 - Grant


Typemap is a branch of soap-wsdl;
http://soap-wsdl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/soap-wsdl/SOAP-WSDL/branches/

SOAP::WSDL I don't think can even be used for this;
http://search.cpan.org/~mkutter/SOAP-WSDL-2.00.10/lib/SOAP/WSDL.pm

I am with you Grant, it is confusing, that is why I said google needs
to make a patched version of Typemap to use with this and call it
something line google-typemap-0.1 and keep it updated to use with
their google-api-adwords-perl. This may happen as it appears the
project is very active.

http://code.google.com/p/google-api-adwords-perl/source/browse/trunk/README

-- 
David Abbott (dabbott)



Re: [gentoo-user] who wants to downgrade my gcc ?

2010-07-02 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:22:56 -0500, Dale wrote:

   

@world includes @system. But the problem is not that emerge world is
skipping it but that it wants to downgrade gcc:4.4.

   

   From my understanding, world includes @system but @world does not.  I
know here on my rig, I run emerge -uvDNa world and it updates
everything installed including deps and the system packages.  If I run
@world, it skips the system packages.  At least that is the last time I
tried it which was not to long ago.

One reason I remember this is because of the discussion I had with the
devs on -dev.  That is why @system is in /var/lib/portage/world_sets.
I noticed a few weeks ago that there are a couple others added to it as
well.  The devs did it that way so that when folks like me upgrade the
old fashioned way and just use world instead of @system and @world.

Has this changed?
 

No, the world_sets file still includes @system by default, which is why
@world includes @system.

The additions are from when you emerged sets, which adds then to
world_sets.

   


But if you removed, temporarily, the @system from the world sets, then 
you get just one.  Did this a while back and it worked at the time.  Not 
going to say it would work today tho.  We all know how portage is.  It 
is like shooting a bullet with another bullet.  ;-)


As was pointed out to me many times, @system is not the same as system.  
Same can be said for world and @world.


Sorry so long to reply.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Patch via perl script in an ebuild?

2010-07-02 Thread Grant
 David, you mentioned in the bug that you couldn't get the patch to
 work clean.  I thought you got it working before when you posted the
 patched Typemap for me to download.  Did it work then but not now?

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305621

 Ah, I didn't know you had this already mostly figured out in a bug.
 Full disclosure requested -- from the very beginning! :D

 After taking a quick peek: do those ebuilds succeed in installing
 something? Since they don't follow CPAN conventions (esp. wrt naming)
 I'm not sure what perl-module.eclass actually does for their
 src_compile, src_install and other steps. Also, the - used in SRC
 might have interesting side-effects to paths, as the tarball name no
 longer matches its content directory's name.

 --
 Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors


 I don't think I will use the software, I was just helping to put the
 pieces together, Grant has been testing it as we move forward. Once we
 get the pieces together and if it will work as intended I think we
 could contact upstream to help with a more sensible approach to
 packaging the patch for the stock SOAP-WSDL, so updating will be
 easier to maintain.
 Just my 2c :)


 --
 David Abbott (dabbott)

You think Google will change the way it packages the SOAP-WSDL patch
if we request it?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Samba freakiness; why isn't it reading MY /etc/samba/smb.conf file?

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Fitzgerald
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:44:58 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I just rebooted the computer to make sure this wasn't some weird RAM
 remnant, but the computer booted up:
 
 carter ~ # /etc/init.d/samba status
  * status:  started
 carter ~ # cat /etc/samba/smb.conf
 [global] 
 workgroup = MYGROUP 
 security = user 
 encrypt passwords = yes 
 guest account = guest
 wins support = yes
 local master = yes 
 os level = 99 
 domain master = yes 
 preferred master = yes
 hosts allow = 192.168.1. 127.
 interfaces = eth0
 
 [tmp] 
 path=/tmp 
 writeable=yes
 
 [homes]
 path=/samba/michael
 valid users=michael
 writable=yes
 carter ~ # testparm 
 Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
 rlimit_max: rlimit_max (1024) below minimum Windows limit (16384)
 Processing section [tmp]
 Processing section [homes]
 Loaded services file OK.
 Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE
 Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions
 
 [global]
   workgroup = MYGROUP
   interfaces = eth0
   guest account = guest
   os level = 99
   preferred master = Yes
   domain master = Yes
   wins support = Yes
   hosts allow = 192.168.1., 127.
 
 [tmp]
   path = /tmp
   read only = No
 
 [homes]
   path = /samba/michael
   valid users = michael
   read only = No
 
 At the top there you see that Samba IS started.  Under that you see MY
 smb.conf, and at the bottom you see the smb.conf that's being loaded.
 Nothing really in the logs that would suggest what's going on here:
 
 carter ~ # cat /var/log/samba/*
 cat: /var/log/samba/cores: Is a directory
 [2010/06/21 16:39:34,  0] nmbd/nmbd.c:854(main)
   nmbd version 3.4.6 started.
   Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2009
 [2010/06/21 16:39:34,  0] nmbd/asyncdns.c:155(start_async_dns)
   started asyncdns process 20980
 [2010/06/21 16:39:34,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:337(become_domain_master_browser_wins)
   become_domain_master_browser_wins:
   Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup MYGROUP,
 subnet UNICAST_SUBNET.
 [2010/06/21 16:39:34,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:351(become_domain_master_browser_wins)
   become_domain_master_browser_wins: querying WINS server from IP
 192.168.1.2 for domain master browser name MYGROUP1b on workgroup
 MYGROUP
 [2010/06/21 16:39:40,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:110(become_domain_master_stage2)
   *
   
   Samba server CARTER is now a domain master browser for workgroup
 MYGROUP on subnet UNICAST_SUBNET
   
   *
 [2010/06/21 16:39:40,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:292(become_domain_master_browser_bcast)
   become_domain_master_browser_bcast:
   Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup MYGROUP on
 subnet 192.168.1.2
 [2010/06/21 16:39:40,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:305(become_domain_master_browser_bcast)
   become_domain_master_browser_bcast: querying subnet 192.168.1.2 for
 domain master browser on workgroup MYGROUP
 [2010/06/21 16:39:48,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:110(become_domain_master_stage2)
   *
   
   Samba server CARTER is now a domain master browser for workgroup
 MYGROUP on subnet 192.168.1.2
   
   *
 [2010/06/21 16:39:56,  0]
 nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:395(become_local_master_stage2)
   *
   
   Samba name server CARTER is now a local master browser for workgroup
 MYGROUP on subnet 192.168.1.2
   
   *
 [2010/06/21 16:39:33,  0] smbd/server.c:1073(main)
   smbd version 3.4.6 started.
   Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2009
 [2010/06/21 16:39:33,  0] printing/print_cups.c:103(cups_connect)
   Unable to connect to CUPS server /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 - No such
 file or directory
 [2010/06/21 16:39:33,  0] printing/print_cups.c:103(cups_connect)
   Unable to connect to CUPS server /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 - No such
 file or directory
 [2010/06/21 16:39:34,  0] smbd/server.c:457(smbd_open_one_socket)
   smbd_open_once_socket: open_socket_in: Address already in use
 [2010/06/21 16:39:34,  0] smbd/server.c:457(smbd_open_one_socket)
   smbd_open_once_socket: open_socket_in: Address already in use
 
 
 

I recently ran into what appears to be the same issue on OpenBSD. For
some reason commenting out the interfaces setting did it for me. I got a
feeling there maybe a bug, but I haven't had time to look into it more.

-- 
Best Regards,
Greg Fitzgerald


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[gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-02, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:19:36 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

 Not really.  The OP's choice of mail client isn't going to change
 what happens when people reply to his postings.  He wants reply-to
 to contain his address as well as the list address so that he gets a
 direct response and doesn't have to bother to check the mailing list
 for replies.

 So he wants other people to take the trouble to reply, but he won't take
 the trouble to look for the replies?

That's the way it read to me.  If that's not what the OP meant, then I
apologize for misunderstanding what he wrote.

 If he really finds it so difficult to look for replies to his mails
 (some mailers will highlight them), he could always set up a filter
 to copy replies to him to his mailbox.

Yup.  Since the mailing list is already sending him a reply, why he
wants a second one is beyond me.

 You don't always need everyone else to change to get what you want.

Well, I know some people who are like that...

-- 
Grant