[gentoo-user] Where's the examples?????
Hi all, I'm playing around with the Boost library, www.boost.org, at the moment and the question is in relation to it but the question also applies to other libraries I've played around with, where are the examples and doco kept? I can't seem to find the Boost example source code anywhere. I also can't find the doco that comes with Boost. Is there a default location that ebuilds should drop examples and doco when dealing with libraries such as Boost? Boost does not seem to have a USE flag that says Install examples somewhere so I'm at a bit of a loss as to where this stuff is? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] Where's the examples?????
On Sun 01 Jan 2012 08:12:30 PM IST, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I'm playing around with the Boost library, www.boost.org, at the moment and the question is in relation to it but the question also applies to other libraries I've played around with, where are the examples and doco kept? I can't seem to find the Boost example source code anywhere. I also can't find the doco that comes with Boost. Is there a default location that ebuilds should drop examples and doco when dealing with libraries such as Boost? Boost does not seem to have a USE flag that says Install examples somewhere so I'm at a bit of a loss as to where this stuff is? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew I don't know about the examples, but the doc useflag installs documentation in /usr/share/doc/boost-ver -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting KDE
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 14:59 -0200, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 13:53, Jeff Cranmer j...@lotussevencars.com wrote: I'm attempting to bring up a new system. Processor is AMD Phenom 1055, running on a Sabertooth 990FX motherboard. Graphics card is an NVIDIA GEForce GTX550Ti. \After a little bit of further investigation, I discovered that the kdm.log file was full of old error messages. Deleting this log file did not result in a replacement file when I retried startx dmesg, however, was reporting some 'invalid opcode' errors. After finding a 2-page pdf on the correct compile flags to use with and amdfam10 processors (attached), I had enabled a couple of extra compile flags, -mabm and -msse4a, as well as setting -march=amdfam10. I've deleted the -mabm and -msse4a compile flag options from make.conf and I'm now running a full recompile (emerge -Dav system, emerge -Dav world). If that doesn't work, I'll try changing the architecture flag to -march=amd64 and recompile once more. I changed to -march=k8 in the make.conf file, removed all packages from kde-base to trigger a meta recompile, then re-installed kde-meta and compiled everything else using emerge -Dav system and emerge -Dav world. I still get the same error. from dmesg kded4[16907] trap invalid opcode ip:7fde193e74d7 sp:7fffa5120510 error:0 in libqtGui.so.4.7.4[7fde19226000+a74000] kcminit_startup[16909] trap invalid opcode ip:7fde193e74d7 sp:7fffa5120610 error:0 in libqtGui.so.4.7.4[7fde19226000+a74000] kcmserver[16911] trap invalid opcode ip:7fde193e74d7 sp:7fffa511ff70 error:0 in libqtGui.so.4.7.4[7fde19226000+a74000] So it appears that the problem is in libQtGui.so.4.7.4 How do I know that I've recompiled this? I suspect this is still a hangover from the original compile settings. Jeff
Re: [gentoo-user] Where's the examples?????
On Jan 1, 2012 9:45 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, I'm playing around with the Boost library, www.boost.org, at the moment and the question is in relation to it but the question also applies to other libraries I've played around with, where are the examples and doco kept? I can't seem to find the Boost example source code anywhere. I also can't find the doco that comes with Boost. Is there a default location that ebuilds should drop examples and doco when dealing with libraries such as Boost? Boost does not seem to have a USE flag that says Install examples somewhere so I'm at a bit of a loss as to where this stuff is? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew Usually USE=docs install the docs. Also, some packages have USE=examples. The customary location is /usr/share/docs/$PACKAGE-$VERSION Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Where's the examples?????
On Jan 1, 2012 9:49 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: On Sun 01 Jan 2012 08:12:30 PM IST, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I'm playing around with the Boost library, www.boost.org, at the moment and the question is in relation to it but the question also applies to other libraries I've played around with, where are the examples and doco kept? I can't seem to find the Boost example source code anywhere. I also can't find the doco that comes with Boost. Is there a default location that ebuilds should drop examples and doco when dealing with libraries such as Boost? Boost does not seem to have a USE flag that says Install examples somewhere so I'm at a bit of a loss as to where this stuff is? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew I don't know about the examples, but the doc useflag installs documentation in /usr/share/doc/boost-ver The examples are also placed there, usually in compressed form. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting KDE
On Sunday 01 Jan 2012 14:54:06 Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 14:59 -0200, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 13:53, Jeff Cranmer j...@lotussevencars.com wrote: I'm attempting to bring up a new system. Processor is AMD Phenom 1055, running on a Sabertooth 990FX motherboard. Graphics card is an NVIDIA GEForce GTX550Ti. \After a little bit of further investigation, I discovered that the kdm.log file was full of old error messages. Deleting this log file did not result in a replacement file when I retried startx dmesg, however, was reporting some 'invalid opcode' errors. After finding a 2-page pdf on the correct compile flags to use with and amdfam10 processors (attached), I had enabled a couple of extra compile flags, -mabm and -msse4a, as well as setting -march=amdfam10. I've deleted the -mabm and -msse4a compile flag options from make.conf and I'm now running a full recompile (emerge -Dav system, emerge -Dav world). If that doesn't work, I'll try changing the architecture flag to -march=amd64 and recompile once more. I changed to -march=k8 in the make.conf file, removed all packages from kde-base to trigger a meta recompile, then re-installed kde-meta and compiled everything else using emerge -Dav system and emerge -Dav world. I still get the same error. from dmesg kded4[16907] trap invalid opcode ip:7fde193e74d7 sp:7fffa5120510 error:0 in libqtGui.so.4.7.4[7fde19226000+a74000] kcminit_startup[16909] trap invalid opcode ip:7fde193e74d7 sp:7fffa5120610 error:0 in libqtGui.so.4.7.4[7fde19226000+a74000] kcmserver[16911] trap invalid opcode ip:7fde193e74d7 sp:7fffa511ff70 error:0 in libqtGui.so.4.7.4[7fde19226000+a74000] So it appears that the problem is in libQtGui.so.4.7.4 How do I know that I've recompiled this? I suspect this is still a hangover from the original compile settings. Jeff $ qfile libQtGui.so.4.7.4 x11-libs/qt-gui (/usr/lib64/qt4/libQtGui.so.4.7.4) Look at the date time that you built x11-libs/qt-gui (in your emerge.log, or use genlop) and compare with said file. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] dracut and the init thingy
Howdy, I been messing with this init thing again. I installed dracut, Googled like a mad man and finally got something to work, I think. Here is some info: root@fireball / # dmesg | grep dracut [3.378296] dracut: Checking reiserfs: /dev/sda3 [3.378644] dracut: issuing reiserfsck -a /dev/sda3 [3.391728] dracut: Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x803 of format 3.6 with standard journal [3.392314] dracut: Blocks (total/free): 4883760/2828326 by 4096 bytes [3.392636] dracut: Filesystem is clean [3.393060] dracut: Remounting /dev/sda3 with -o ro [3.481926] dracut: Mounted root filesystem /dev/sda3 [3.572413] dracut: Switching root root@fireball / # In my grub.conf I have this: title=Initramfs-test root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-3.1.5-1 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init initrd /initramfs-3.1.5-gentoo.img That is also what I booted with. So, is it set up right? It scrolls so fast I can't really see what it is doing in real time. I don't know and can't find a way to confirm it is working so figured I would post what I can find here. It did boot tho. By the way, my root partition is sda3. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting KDE
Jeff $ qfile libQtGui.so.4.7.4 x11-libs/qt-gui (/usr/lib64/qt4/libQtGui.so.4.7.4) Look at the date time that you built x11-libs/qt-gui (in your emerge.log, or use genlop) and compare with said file. The files match, last compiled in the morning, two days ago, which is before I tried my most recent changes. Success - Recompilation of this file gets me a k desktop. Is there a good way to force-recompile an entire system's code? emerge -Dav system and emerge -Dav world don't seem to go down far enough in the hierarchy to recompile all dependencies. Many thanks. Jeff
[gentoo-user] Xen vs Citrix XenServer
Hi all, I'm looking into virtualizing my servers (all 3 of them), and am a little confused as to the differences between Xen and XenServer... First - I want to use a bare metal hypervisor that supports the following: 1. Can be installed on a USB FLASH drive (I have some Dell Poweredge 2970 servers with the internal USB slot for just this purpose), and 2. Fully supports both Windows Server 2008 (our Domain Controller), and Gentoo Linux (our mail and web servers). By 'fully' above, I mean, I can install the guest tools/additions, so I'll be able to safely manage the VMs (shutdown in case of an extended power failure, snapshots, migrations, etc) I can't seem to find an ebuild for the xenserver tools, and when looking found out about Xen (I had thought that it went away a long time ago)... Anyway, looking for any pointers from anyone currently running either of the two... Thanks, Charles
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting KDE
On Sunday 01 January 2012 16:13:16 Jeff Cranmer wrote: Is there a good way to force-recompile an entire system's code? emerge -Dav system and emerge -Dav world don't seem to go down far enough in the hierarchy to recompile all dependencies. Emerge -e system emerge -e world. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] Xen vs Citrix XenServer
On 2012-01-01 11:18 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Anyway, looking for any pointers from anyone currently running either of the two... Also, anyone running ESXi... Do the open-vm-tools support the latest version of ESXi (5)? How do you know which versions of ESXi are supported?
Re: [gentoo-user] Xen vs Citrix XenServer
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Hi all,
I'm looking into virtualizing my servers (all 3 of them), and am a little
confused as to the differences between Xen and XenServer...
Think of it as a bit like the difference between Linux and a Linux
distribution. Xen is the name of the hypervisor, XenServer is the
hypervisor plus some support tools in a dom0.
While I haven't played with XenServer, I have played with its
open-source clone, XCP, and was very annoyed by it. I'd rather run a
Gentoo dom0.
First - I want to use a bare metal hypervisor that supports the following:
1. Can be installed on a USB FLASH drive (I have some Dell Poweredge 2970
servers with the internal USB slot for just this purpose), and
I don't think I've heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why
it'd be a problem.
2. Fully supports both Windows Server 2008 (our Domain Controller), and
Gentoo Linux (our mail and web servers).
The xen supports hvm, where it emulates hardware; in a full hvm VM,
*any* operating system comfortable on x86 should run.
There's also paravirtualization, which is faster, and is likely what
you're thinking of wrt 'bare metal'. Signed drivers for paravirt mode
for hardware (such as your network, disk or system clock) are
available for current versions of Windows.
Finally, on some server hardware, you can grant VMs access to
particular PCI and PCIe devices.
By 'fully' above, I mean, I can install the guest tools/additions, so I'll
be able to safely manage the VMs (shutdown in case of an extended power
failure, snapshots, migrations, etc)
I can't seem to find an ebuild for the xenserver tools, and when looking
found out about Xen (I had thought that it went away a long time ago)...
eix xen shows a few relevant results:
* app-emulation/xen
Available versions: 3.4.2-r4!t 4.1.1-r2!t ~4.1.2!t {acm
custom-cflags debug flask pae xsm}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: The Xen virtual machine monitor
* app-emulation/xen-pvgrub
Available versions: 4.1.1-r1 ~4.1.2 {custom-cflags}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: allows to boot Xen domU kernels from a
menu.lst laying inside guest filesystem
* app-emulation/xen-tools
Available versions: 3.4.2-r3 ~3.4.2-r5 ~4.1.1-r5 4.1.1-r6
~4.1.2-r2!t {acm api custom-cflags debug doc flask hvm pygrub qemu
screen xend}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: Xend daemon and tools
* sec-policy/selinux-xen
Available versions: [M]2.20110726
Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/selinux/
Description: SELinux policy for xen
* sys-kernel/xen-sources
Available versions:
(2.6.18-r12)2.6.18-r12!b!s
(2.6.34-r3) ~2.6.34-r3!b!s
(2.6.34-r4) ~2.6.34-r4!b!s
(2.6.38)~2.6.38!b!s
{build deblob symlink}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: Full sources for a dom0/domU Linux kernel to
run under Xen
Anyway, looking for any pointers from anyone currently running either of the
two...
Not currently, but had some experience with it at work and at home,
plan to get back into it later this month.
--
:wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Xen vs Citrix XenServer
Thanks for your response Michael...
On 2012-01-01 11:51 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
While I haven't played with XenServer, I have played with its
open-source clone, XCP, and was very annoyed by it. I'd rather run a
Gentoo dom0.
I just thought that running a bare metal hyperviser would be more
stable/reliable, and running it on a thumb drive would be much more
convenient.
First - I want to use a bare metal hypervisor that supports the
following:
1. Can be installed on a USB FLASH drive (I have some Dell
Poweredge 2970 servers with the internal USB slot for just this
purpose), and
I don't think I've heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why
it'd be a problem.
Definitely not a problem for XenServer (although v6 isn't officially
supported on a thumb drive yet), so I was mainly wondering about Xen
itself...
2. Fully supports both Windows Server 2008 (our Domain Controller),
and Gentoo Linux (our mail and web servers).
The xen supports hvm, where it emulates hardware; in a full hvm VM,
*any* operating system comfortable on x86 should run.
There's also paravirtualization, which is faster, and is likely what
you're thinking of wrt 'bare metal'. Signed drivers for paravirt
mode for hardware (such as your network, disk or system clock) are
available for current versions of Windows.
Yes, PV is what I was thinking of, thanks - and apparently this wouldn't
be a problem with gentoo either?
I can't seem to find an ebuild for the xenserver tools, and when
looking found out about Xen (I had thought that it went away a long
time ago)...
* app-emulation/xen-tools
Available versions: 3.4.2-r3 ~3.4.2-r5 ~4.1.1-r5 4.1.1-r6
~4.1.2-r2!t {acm api custom-cflags debug doc flask hvm pygrub qemu
screen xend}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: Xend daemon and tools
Hmm... so will these tools work with XenServer? Or are they just for Xen?
Also, I ran across an article on the gentoo wiki that said that the VM
images for Xen and XenServer are NOT compatible, which I find odd if
XenServer is just Xen with some additional tools provided by Citrix.
The article also said that the single biggest advantage of XenServer is
the amount of time required to get something up and running - minutes
for XenServer, compared to days for Xen - is this dated info, or still true?
* sec-policy/selinux-xen
Available versions: [M]2.20110726
Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/selinux/
Description: SELinux policy for xen
* sys-kernel/xen-sources
Available versions:
(2.6.18-r12)2.6.18-r12!b!s
(2.6.34-r3) ~2.6.34-r3!b!s
(2.6.34-r4) ~2.6.34-r4!b!s
(2.6.38)~2.6.38!b!s
{build deblob symlink}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: Full sources for a dom0/domU Linux kernel to
run under Xen
I though that xen-sources were no longer needed as of kernel 2.6.33+?
Thanks again Michael,
Charles
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video editing advice on formats and size of file
On Saturday 24 Dec 2011 01:55:43 Dale wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-12-23, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, I been trying to get this to work right for a goood while now. I'm confused here. I have some videos that I download that are split up. Some have two or three parts and a few 4 or 5. What I can't get is this, I can't seem to take say two 250Mb videos and make it come anywhere near 500Mbs when spliced together. This always works for me with avi and mpeg files: mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -quiet infile1.avi infile2.avi -o outfile.avi I tried this but it made my video pixelated for some reason. The one I tested was a .flv so that may have a LOT to do with it. Maybe it needed different options. I tried the man page but it looked like Greek to me. I mostly watch videos but no idea on how to make them or even do much editing, tho I am sort of learning. My lady friend likes to watch videos so I have to put them together and burn them to a DVD. Things women make us guys do. lol Hmm ... more likely she decided to keep you busy (quiet) and prove to herself that you care enough to do things for her? No doubt you let slip that you like playing with computers ... ;-) Anyhow, have a look again at the mencoder man page. There's a few settings in there for video called extreme and insane. You may want to try them. Alternatively you may find that ffmpeg will do what you want. There's a copy option whereby it just copies the source with zero processing on video or audio inputs. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Xen vs Citrix XenServer
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Thanks for your response Michael...
On 2012-01-01 11:51 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
While I haven't played with XenServer, I have played with its
open-source clone, XCP, and was very annoyed by it. I'd rather run a
Gentoo dom0.
I just thought that running a bare metal hyperviser would be more
stable/reliable, and running it on a thumb drive would be much more
convenient.
First - I want to use a bare metal hypervisor that supports the
following:
1. Can be installed on a USB FLASH drive (I have some Dell
Poweredge 2970 servers with the internal USB slot for just this
purpose), and
I don't think I've heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why
it'd be a problem.
Definitely not a problem for XenServer (although v6 isn't officially
supported on a thumb drive yet), so I was mainly wondering about Xen
itself...
XenServer is just the Xen hypervisor prepackaged with a custom Linux
distribution running in the dom0.
2. Fully supports both Windows Server 2008 (our Domain Controller),
and Gentoo Linux (our mail and web servers).
The xen supports hvm, where it emulates hardware; in a full hvm VM,
*any* operating system comfortable on x86 should run.
There's also paravirtualization, which is faster, and is likely what
you're thinking of wrt 'bare metal'. Signed drivers for paravirt
mode for hardware (such as your network, disk or system clock) are
available for current versions of Windows.
Yes, PV is what I was thinking of, thanks - and apparently this wouldn't be
a problem with gentoo either?
You'd want to either run xen-sources or another Linux kernel recent
enough to have specific support for communicating with the xen
hypervisor.
I can't seem to find an ebuild for the xenserver tools, and when
looking found out about Xen (I had thought that it went away a long
time ago)...
* app-emulation/xen-tools
Available versions: 3.4.2-r3 ~3.4.2-r5 ~4.1.1-r5 4.1.1-r6
~4.1.2-r2!t {acm api custom-cflags debug doc flask hvm pygrub qemu
screen xend}
Homepage: http://xen.org/
Description: Xend daemon and tools
Hmm... so will these tools work with XenServer? Or are they just for Xen?
xend is a daemon which runs in your dom0. If you're running XenServer
or XCP, you're running Citrix's custom Linux distribution in your
dom0. If you're running Gentoo in your dom0, you're not running
XenServer.
Also, I ran across an article on the gentoo wiki that said that the VM
images for Xen and XenServer are NOT compatible, which I find odd if
XenServer is just Xen with some additional tools provided by Citrix.
Don't know. I can make any number of educated guesses as to why this could be.
The article also said that the single biggest advantage of XenServer is the
amount of time required to get something up and running - minutes for
XenServer, compared to days for Xen - is this dated info, or still true?
It's analogous to running something like RHEL versus something like
Gentoo; there's a huge number of different ways you could do things in
Linux, but RHEL ties more of the pieces together for you than Gentoo
would. Likewise, XenServer ties more of the pieces together for you
than running Xen on top of some random Linux distribution.
[Drawing off my playing with XCP, the open-source clone of XenServer]
If you're going to use XenServer, you get most of a pretty interface
set up for you fairly quickly; the default console interface lets you
perform a variety of maintenance tasks through scripts and toolchains
that are already set up. (If I understand things properly, the backend
in question is the XAPI toolstack[1], for which there doesn't appear
to be an ebuild.)
[1] http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/03/xapi-toolstack-release-details/
* sec-policy/selinux-xen
Available versions: [M]2.20110726
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/selinux/
Description: SELinux policy for xen
* sys-kernel/xen-sources
Available versions:
(2.6.18-r12) 2.6.18-r12!b!s
(2.6.34-r3) ~2.6.34-r3!b!s
(2.6.34-r4) ~2.6.34-r4!b!s
(2.6.38) ~2.6.38!b!s
{build deblob symlink}
Homepage: http://xen.org/
Description: Full sources for a dom0/domU Linux kernel to
run under Xen
I though that xen-sources were no longer needed as of kernel 2.6.33+?
My understanding is that xen features are getting slowly reimplemented
in the mainline kernel tree, and that not all of the features are
there yet.
Thanks again Michael,
IANAXE, but I'll happily explain my understanding. :)
--
:wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen Hmmm, are you talking some custom setup using 'PS1=' sort of thing? That is in: /etc/bash/bashrc For reference, I have this: PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' and that gives me this: root@fireball / # The path is shown but I am at /. That works the same on a console as it does on a Konsole. Is that what you are talking about? If it is, here is some neato info: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ Dale :-) :-) P. S. Happy New Year ma'am. -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 14:48, Dale wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen Hmmm, are you talking some custom setup using 'PS1=' sort of thing? That is in: /etc/bash/bashrc For reference, I have this: PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' and that gives me this: root@fireball / # The path is shown but I am at /. That works the same on a console as it does on a Konsole. Is that what you are talking about? If it is, here is some neato info: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ Dale :-) :-) P. S. Happy New Year ma'am. I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE). When I exit kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar to what you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' ). I don't recall exactly what my output is because the only way I can get a command prompt is by exiting kde. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling konsole to no avail. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Make a backup of and then delete or rename the konsole config files in: ~/.kde4/share/config/konsolerc ~/.kde4/share/apps/konsole/* Maybe something in there got hosed.
[gentoo-user] Re: Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer colleen.beamer at gmail.com writes: I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE). When I exit kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar to what you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u at \h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' ). I don't recall exactly what my output is because the only way I can get a command prompt is by exiting kde. Hello Col., If you can get to the tab, in kde, just below the session, hit the right mouse button and see what it shows. Mine is set up like this Tab Title Format %d : %n Remote tab title format %h : %u hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 15:09, James wrote: Colleen Beamer colleen.beamer at gmail.com writes: I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE). When I exit kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar to what you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u at \h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' ). I don't recall exactly what my output is because the only way I can get a command prompt is by exiting kde. Hello Col., If you can get to the tab, in kde, just below the session, hit the right mouse button and see what it shows. Mine is set up like this Tab Title Format %d : %n Remote tab title format %h : %u I have the menubar in konsole so, I can edit the profile. In tabs, mine displays exactly like yours. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 15:08, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Make a backup of and then delete or rename the konsole config files in: ~/.kde4/share/config/konsolerc ~/.kde4/share/apps/konsole/* Maybe something in there got hosed. Tried this. Good idea, but it didn't solve the issue. Darn, I *really* thought this would work! :-) Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change things under the Appearance tab. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems starting KDE
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:13:16 -0500 Jeff Cranmer j...@lotussevencars.com wrote: Jeff $ qfile libQtGui.so.4.7.4 x11-libs/qt-gui (/usr/lib64/qt4/libQtGui.so.4.7.4) Look at the date time that you built x11-libs/qt-gui (in your emerge.log, or use genlop) and compare with said file. The files match, last compiled in the morning, two days ago, which is before I tried my most recent changes. Success - Recompilation of this file gets me a k desktop. Is there a good way to force-recompile an entire system's code? emerge -Dav system and emerge -Dav world don't seem to go down far enough in the hierarchy to recompile all dependencies. That's a common enough problem but there doesn't seem to be much portage can do about it. Lower-level libs can easily trigger a rebuild for ebuilds that depend on them, but the reverse is not true. For example, if you have some KDE app that requires a recent qt version (and your installed qt is some earlier version), then portage can't figure out to tell you to upgrade or rebuild qt because the dependencies are the wrong way round for that. You have to remember yourself when a Qt rebuild might be needed. You can use sets help to help ensure you do rebuild everything in Qt, but you have to remember when to do it. xorg-server has the same issue, and the solution there is also remember to rebuild the xorg-drivers when you upgrade the X server -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change things under the Appearance tab. It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal, just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole. -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change things under the Appearance tab. It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal, just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole. Out-of-left-field thought...did this happen when you upgraded from 3.0.6 to 3.1.6? I'm wondering if pty support might be broken on your system due to some configuration issue. What happens if you run xterm? -- :wq
[gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 16:15, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamercolleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change things under the Appearance tab. It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal, just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole. Out-of-left-field thought...did this happen when you upgraded from 3.0.6 to 3.1.6? I'm wondering if pty support might be broken on your system due to some configuration issue. What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. Pretty sure that's what -1 is for. I'm just getting the hang of it myself. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. Regards, Colleen Looks like something in Konsole broke. If deleting the config files didn't fix it, I'd try a recompile and see if it helps. Check your USE flags too just in case you notice something there that got changed. Other than that, I'm not sure what else to try. It works here and has been for a good while and I updated yesterday. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Michael Orlitzky wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. We noticed that a while back too. I added --oneshot to my make.conf setting to prevent this. When you want something added to the world file, check into the --select option. I'm pretty sure that is the one. I do agree that updates shouldn't add things to the world file but I wouldn't hold my breath on it getting changed. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Xen vs Citrix XenServer
On 2012-01-01 18:40, Tanstaafl wrote:
Thanks for your response Michael...
On 2012-01-01 11:51 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
While I haven't played with XenServer, I have played with its
open-source clone, XCP, and was very annoyed by it. I'd rather run a
Gentoo dom0.
I just thought that running a bare metal hyperviser would be more
stable/reliable, and running it on a thumb drive would be much more
convenient.
With Xen (or XenServer) the hypervisor always runs on bare metal, and
the domain-0 and its kernel is a special kind of a virtual machine (it
has virtual RAM and virtual CPUs as any other Xen domain, but
additionally full hardware access especially to all PCI devices and ACPI
/ sensors etc.). Separating it on a thumb drive will not change a lot,
the hypervisor gets loaded into RAM any way and does not require any
disk access. However, the domain-0 operating system will usually use a
disk (but could also be run by NFS root file system or anything else).
First - I want to use a bare metal hypervisor that supports the
following:
1. Can be installed on a USB FLASH drive (I have some Dell
Poweredge 2970 servers with the internal USB slot for just this
purpose), and
I don't think I've heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why
it'd be a problem.
Definitely not a problem for XenServer (although v6 isn't officially
supported on a thumb drive yet), so I was mainly wondering about Xen
itself...
2. Fully supports both Windows Server 2008 (our Domain Controller),
and Gentoo Linux (our mail and web servers).
The xen supports hvm, where it emulates hardware; in a full hvm VM,
*any* operating system comfortable on x86 should run.
There's also paravirtualization, which is faster, and is likely what
you're thinking of wrt 'bare metal'. Signed drivers for paravirt
mode for hardware (such as your network, disk or system clock) are
available for current versions of Windows.
Yes, PV is what I was thinking of, thanks - and apparently this
wouldn't be a problem with gentoo either?
I'm using a Gentoo domain-0 and domU systems productive for more than 2
years now. I have never used a virtual machine with Windows Server
running, but it's fully supported by both, open-source Xen and XenServer.
I can't seem to find an ebuild for the xenserver tools, and when
looking found out about Xen (I had thought that it went away a long
time ago)...
* app-emulation/xen-tools
Available versions: 3.4.2-r3 ~3.4.2-r5 ~4.1.1-r5 4.1.1-r6
~4.1.2-r2!t {acm api custom-cflags debug doc flask hvm pygrub qemu
screen xend}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: Xend daemon and tools
Hmm... so will these tools work with XenServer? Or are they just for Xen?
Also, I ran across an article on the gentoo wiki that said that the VM
images for Xen and XenServer are NOT compatible, which I find odd if
XenServer is just Xen with some additional tools provided by Citrix.
The article also said that the single biggest advantage of XenServer
is the amount of time required to get something up and running -
minutes for XenServer, compared to days for Xen - is this dated info,
or still true?
I don't know about the setup of XenServer, but it should be rather
straightforward. XCP is also meant to be a quick way to setup Xen just
as VMWare ESXi or something similar. Setting up Xen in a Gentoo domain-0
is much more work for sure, but (as always with Gentoo) gives you lots
of possibilities for customization.
* sec-policy/selinux-xen
Available versions: [M]2.20110726
Homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/selinux/
Description: SELinux policy for xen
* sys-kernel/xen-sources
Available versions:
(2.6.18-r12)2.6.18-r12!b!s
(2.6.34-r3) ~2.6.34-r3!b!s
(2.6.34-r4) ~2.6.34-r4!b!s
(2.6.38)~2.6.38!b!s
{build deblob symlink}
Homepage:http://xen.org/
Description: Full sources for a dom0/domU Linux kernel to
run under Xen
I though that xen-sources were no longer needed as of kernel 2.6.33+?
2.6.37+, but the first *really* usable kernel is 3.1, because earlier
ones didn't have blockback support (virtual disks), up to 3.0, and 3.0
had a serious bug with VGA output. In addition, there may be performance
problems with those kernels in some applications (but I didn't
experience any yet).
Thanks again Michael,
Charles
Regards,
Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. Pretty sure that's what -1 is for. I'm just getting the hang of it myself. Well, I know what I'm *supposed* to do. My complaint is basically that I sometimes forget to add -1 with -u, and that bad things happen as a result. But why should I have to add -1 along with it? Is there any reason you would ever want -u to add a package to your world file? If not, we can avoid headaches in the future by making it do the sane (not harmful) thing.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. Pretty sure that's what -1 is for. I'm just getting the hang of it myself. Well, I know what I'm *supposed* to do. My complaint is basically that I sometimes forget to add -1 with -u, and that bad things happen as a result. But why should I have to add -1 along with it? Is there any reason you would ever want -u to add a package to your world file? If not, we can avoid headaches in the future by making it do the sane (not harmful) thing. Using -u used to work the way you describe but that was a while ago. The only thing I know of is to add --oneshot to make.conf so you don't forget. I think they knew this was going to be a issue. This is in man emerge: --select [ y | n ] Add specified packages to the world set (inverse of --oneshot). This is useful if you want to use EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS to make --oneshot behavior default. The way I read that is that they expect you to add --oneshot to make.conf. Like you, this makes no sense to me. I would rather they leave it the way it was and then not needed the --select option at all. :/ Then again, they add confusion so we can fix it in make.conf. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. Pretty sure that's what -1 is for. I'm just getting the hang of it myself. Well, I know what I'm *supposed* to do. My complaint is basically that I sometimes forget to add -1 with -u, and that bad things happen as a result. But why should I have to add -1 along with it? Is there any reason you would ever want -u to add a package to your world file? If not, we can avoid headaches in the future by making it do the sane (not harmful) thing. Using -u used to work the way you describe but that was a while ago. The only thing I know of is to add --oneshot to make.conf so you don't forget. I think they knew this was going to be a issue. This is in man emerge: --select [ y | n ] Add specified packages to the world set (inverse of --oneshot). This is useful if you want to use EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS to make --oneshot behavior default. The way I read that is that they expect you to add --oneshot to make.conf. Like you, this makes no sense to me. I would rather they leave it the way it was and then not needed the --select option at all. :/ Then again, they add confusion so we can fix it in make.conf. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n I'm not clear. Why does one ever bother with emerge -u package? In 10 years of Gentoo I've managed to get by with basically either emerge package to add something or emerge -DuN @world to stay updated. (or @system in the old days but no longer...) Not picking on anyone but in my mind emerge -u package _should_ add the package to the world file because any time I run emerge with a package name and without -1 I'm telling it to make it part of @world. If it's not part of @world, and is already on the machine, then emerge -DuN @world is the right way to get it and everything else updated. Just curious... - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Using emerge --update foo adds foo to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just being short-sighted. Pretty sure that's what -1 is for. I'm just getting the hang of it myself. Well, I know what I'm *supposed* to do. My complaint is basically that I sometimes forget to add -1 with -u, and that bad things happen as a result. But why should I have to add -1 along with it? Is there any reason you would ever want -u to add a package to your world file? If not, we can avoid headaches in the future by making it do the sane (not harmful) thing. Using -u used to work the way you describe but that was a while ago. The only thing I know of is to add --oneshot to make.conf so you don't forget. I think they knew this was going to be a issue. This is in man emerge: --select [ y | n ] Add specified packages to the world set (inverse of --oneshot). This is useful if you want to use EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS to make --oneshot behavior default. The way I read that is that they expect you to add --oneshot to make.conf. Like you, this makes no sense to me. I would rather they leave it the way it was and then not needed the --select option at all. :/ Then again, they add confusion so we can fix it in make.conf. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n I'm not clear. Why does one ever bother with emerge -u package? In 10 years of Gentoo I've managed to get by with basically either emerge package to add something or emerge -DuN @world to stay updated. (or @system in the old days but no longer...) Not picking on anyone but in my mind emerge -u package _should_ add the package to the world file because any time I run emerge with a package name and without -1 I'm telling it to make it part of @world. If it's not part of @world, and is already on the machine, then emerge -DuN @world is the right way to get it and everything else updated. Just curious... - Mark Sometimes I do my updates one package at a time. I would then use the -u option so that it would be updated, not added to world. To me, update means update. If there is no option then it should be installed and added to world. That is how it was done for a good long while then got changed. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Actually, -u doesn't mean update, means filter packages that are not updatable (are already the most recent version). It's a filter option, not an action. Portage doesn't work with actions.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: Actually, -u doesn't mean update, means filter packages that are not updatable (are already the most recent version). It's a filter option, not an action. Portage doesn't work with actions. Not according to the man page: --update (-u) Updates packages to the best version available, which may not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and develop‐ ment. Package atoms specified on the command line are greedy, meaning that unspecific atoms may match multiple versions of slotted pack‐ ages. It is a command line, or make.conf, option but it tells emerge what to do. It's no different than -D or -N. They are all options but they tell portage what you want it to do. Update means update. That's why it is called update instead of something else. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On 01/01/2012 05:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not clear. Why does one ever bother with emerge -u package? In 10 years of Gentoo I've managed to get by with basically either emerge package to add something or emerge -DuN @world to stay updated. (or @system in the old days but no longer...) Usually it's because a world update wants to do both trivial version bumps and replace major software at the same time. I can't take a server down for an hour in the middle of the day to update Apache, but I can bump timezone-data, sure. Even when there aren't any major packages, sometimes I'll do the smaller ones in chunks, so that if something breaks I don't have to revert 300 packages. Not picking on anyone but in my mind emerge -u package _should_ add the package to the world file because any time I run emerge with a package name and without -1 I'm telling it to make it part of @world. If it's not part of @world, and is already on the machine, then emerge -DuN @world is the right way to get it and everything else updated. No offense taken, that's why I asked. I can almost never get away with a full world update except on my personal machines, so the way --update works is important to me. Adding unwanted packages to world is especially bad because there are things like amavisd-new that have undeclared (optional?) dependencies on miscellaneous perl packages. After a few months, I don't remember which perl packages I wanted vs. which ones portage stuck in there by accident, so the world file just grows and grows. Adding --oneshot to the default opts is probably the way to go when I'm ready to concede that I'll forget -1 occasionally. It feels dirty, though.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On 01/01/2012 05:54 PM, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: Actually, -u doesn't mean update, means filter packages that are not updatable (are already the most recent version). It's a filter option, not an action. Portage doesn't work with actions. I can see that this view is logically consistent, however, --update (-u) Updates packages to the best version available, which may not always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and development. Package atoms specified on the command line are greedy, meaning that unspecific atoms may match multiple ver‐ sions of slotted packages.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 01/01/2012 05:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not clear. Why does one ever bother with emerge -u package? In 10 years of Gentoo I've managed to get by with basically either emerge package to add something or emerge -DuN @world to stay updated. (or @system in the old days but no longer...) Usually it's because a world update wants to do both trivial version bumps and replace major software at the same time. I can't take a server down for an hour in the middle of the day to update Apache, but I can bump timezone-data, sure. Even when there aren't any major packages, sometimes I'll do the smaller ones in chunks, so that if something breaks I don't have to revert 300 packages. Not picking on anyone but in my mind emerge -u package _should_ add the package to the world file because any time I run emerge with a package name and without -1 I'm telling it to make it part of @world. If it's not part of @world, and is already on the machine, then emerge -DuN @world is the right way to get it and everything else updated. No offense taken, that's why I asked. I can almost never get away with a full world update except on my personal machines, so the way --update works is important to me. Adding unwanted packages to world is especially bad because there are things like amavisd-new that have undeclared (optional?) dependencies on miscellaneous perl packages. After a few months, I don't remember which perl packages I wanted vs. which ones portage stuck in there by accident, so the world file just grows and grows. Adding --oneshot to the default opts is probably the way to go when I'm ready to concede that I'll forget -1 occasionally. It feels dirty, though. OK, makes sense to me. 1) I only do home machines. My family all over California now runs Gentoo and has for years. Windows no longer exists anywhere except in VMs. Clearly I can see why someone running production machines wouldn't want to do that. 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real application, etc. Glad I wasn't sounding too negative. It wasn't my intention. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:07:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Usually it's because a world update wants to do both trivial version bumps and replace major software at the same time. I can't take a server down for an hour in the middle of the day to update Apache, but I can bump timezone-data, sure. Why would you need to take it down? All you need to do is restart Apache after the update. -- Neil Bothwick I distinctly remember forgetting that. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark Also, have you tried making a new user, logging that user in for the first time and checking if konsole works correctly? Possibly one of your .kde4 config files got messed up? - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is what they are: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 I have rebooted multiple times to no avail. I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
On 01/01/2012 07:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:07:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Usually it's because a world update wants to do both trivial version bumps and replace major software at the same time. I can't take a server down for an hour in the middle of the day to update Apache, but I can bump timezone-data, sure. Why would you need to take it down? All you need to do is restart Apache after the update. I have to test, like, 200 websites to make sure they still work. Something /always/ breaks. Apache was just an example. PHP is the same way: functions get removed, renamed, or just subtly changed. I can't replace Dovecot with users logged in. I can't upgrade/restart postgresql while clients are hitting it. If I'm working remotely, I don't want to update openvpn, iptables, or even openssh. There's a long list of packages that I just ain't gonna mess with during the day.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 19:01, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Tried this, but it didn't resolve the issue. I also tried re-installing kdelibs, which didn't resolve the issue either. :-( Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Since reboots don't fix it, it doesn't sound like a starvation issue. Since your /dev/pts is mounted and seems to have useful permissions, it doesn't sound like a permissions issue. Since xterm works, it *definitely* shouldn't be a permissions issue relating to ptys; I'd expect xterm would have had the same issue. Still, with the error 'Can't open a pseudo teletype', code and activity relating to ptys are where I'd keep looking. If it were me, at this point I'd try running konsole under strace, direct strace's output to a text file, and then grep that file for anything relating to /dev/pts, look at the error codes (or lackthereof, or lack of matching lines), and try figuring things out from there. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is what they are: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 should look like this: ls -hl /dev/pts insgesamt 0 crw--w 1 user tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 1 2. Jan 01:20 1 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 2 1. Jan 21:15 2 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 3 1. Jan 23:19 3 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 4 1. Jan 21:31 4 so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please. I have rebooted multiple times to no avail. yeah because something sets the permissions wrong. I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. try googling pts permissions. When you cat mtab, do you find something like this: /etc/mtab: devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok? (having this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts ) -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? -- :wq Best I can tell here they are created and destroyed as konsole is opened and closed. Open a bunch of konsoles and see for yourself. Possibly konsole is now doing it wrong whereas xterm by itself is doing it right? I dunno much. I dunno nut'un. I just dunno. :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts xterm uses /dev/ptmx konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* ls -lh /dev/ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 19:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is what they are: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 should look like this: ls -hl /dev/pts insgesamt 0 crw--w 1 user tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 1 2. Jan 01:20 1 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 2 1. Jan 21:15 2 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 3 1. Jan 23:19 3 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 4 1. Jan 21:31 4 so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please. I didn't emerge anything before this happened. Use flags for kdelibs are as follows: -3dnow +acl +alsa -bindist +bzip -debug -doc -fam +handbook -jpeg2k -kerberos -lzma +mmx +nls -openexr +opengl +policykit -semantic-desktop -spell +sse +sse2 +ssl -test +udev +udisks +upower -zeroconf I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. try googling pts permissions. When you cat mtab, do you find something like this: /etc/mtab: devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok? (having this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts This is the output from cating mtab: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 udev /dev tmpfs rw,nosuid,relatime,size=10240k,mode=755 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0 /dev/sda3 / ext3 rw,noatime,commit=0 0 0 rc-svcdir /lib64/rc/init.d tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1024k,mode=755 0 0 fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw,relatime 0 0 shm /dev/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/sda4 /home ext3 rw,noatime,commit=0 0 0 Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts xterm uses /dev/ptmx konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* ls -lh /dev/ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important. Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:01:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 19:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is what they are: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 should look like this: ls -hl /dev/pts insgesamt 0 crw--w 1 user tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 1 2. Jan 01:20 1 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 2 1. Jan 21:15 2 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 3 1. Jan 23:19 3 crw--- 1 user tty 136, 4 1. Jan 21:31 4 so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please. I didn't emerge anything before this happened. Use flags for kdelibs are as follows: -3dnow +acl +alsa -bindist +bzip -debug -doc -fam +handbook -jpeg2k -kerberos -lzma +mmx +nls -openexr +opengl +policykit -semantic-desktop -spell +sse +sse2 +ssl -test +udev +udisks +upower -zeroconf I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. try googling pts permissions. When you cat mtab, do you find something like this: /etc/mtab: devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok? (having this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts This is the output from cating mtab: devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0 now compare that with my line. Then find out which script does it to you. Do you have a devpts entry in fstab? Correct it, you are done. And I should have gone to bed 4h ago. Old men need sleep (/me feels older than I am.) -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
x SNIP Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 mark@c2stable ~ $ But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are the same which they seem to be...) - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:05:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts xterm uses /dev/ptmx konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* ls -lh /dev/ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important. Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts ? and what abot /dev/ptmx? does it look like the line from me or is there some root root stuff going on? if the later chown that. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: x SNIP Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 mark@c2stable ~ $ But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are the same which they seem to be...) - Mark Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight 'cause I am totally confused Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: x SNIP Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 mark@c2stable ~ $ But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are the same which they seem to be...) - Mark Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight 'cause I am totally confused Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try emerge -1 gobject-introspection and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test. Have a good evening, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: x SNIP Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 mark@c2stable ~ $ But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are the same which they seem to be...) - Mark Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight 'cause I am totally confused Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try emerge -1 gobject-introspection and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test. Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't solve the problem. Thanks, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 20:18, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:05:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings-Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts xterm uses /dev/ptmx konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* ls -lh /dev/ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important. Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks exactly like the line above. ? and what abot /dev/ptmx? does it look like the line from me or is there some root root stuff going on? if the later chown that. If I do ls -lh /dev/ptmx, I get this output: crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5,2 Jan 1 21:36 ptmx Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
[gentoo-user] Graphics support problem in make menuconfig kernel 3.0.6
I checked /var/log/portage/elog after building xorg-server. It complains... == WARN: postinst This driver requires KMS support in your kernel Device Drivers --- Graphics support --- Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) --- * Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i915 driver) --- i915 driver [*] Enable modesetting on intel by default == ...but, but, but... when I go into make menuconfig I don't get quite that menu... * Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) * | Arrow keys navigate the menu. Enter selects submenus ---. | | Highlighted letters are hotkeys. Pressing Y includes, N excludes, | | M modularizes features. Press EscEsc to exit, ? for Help, / | | for Search. Legend: [*] built-in [ ] excluded M module | | *=* | | |--- Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI suppor| | | |3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3+ | | | |ATI Rage 128 | | | |ATI Radeon | | | |Intel I810 | | | |* Intel 8xx/9xx/G3x/G4x/HD Graphics | | | |[*] Enable modesetting on intel by default | | | |Matrox g200/g400 | | | |SiS video cards| | | |Via unichrome video cards | | | |Savage video cards | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | *=* | |=| |Select Exit Help | *=* I do remember having seen the i915 option previously. Is this something new? This is the 3.0.6 kernel. I followed the instructions at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml as closely as possible. Note that... * Framebuffer Console Support is actually mandatory enabled -*- Framebuffer Console support. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
