RE: [gentoo-user] It is Bugday time!
Is there a place for someone who is not a programmer? I am an admin and user TIM -Original Message- From: Alexander Færøy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] It is Bugday time! Hello! It is Bugday time once again! Join #Gentoo-Bugs on Freenode tomorrow (Saturday) and help us fix as many bugs as possible! Have fun! Best regards, Alexander -- Alexander Færøy Bugday Lead Alpha/IA64/MIPS Architecture Teams User Relations, Quality Assurance and Release Engineering -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Laptop
HI folks; I am getting ready to rebuild my laptop in gentoo - it is currently running the first install of gentoo that i ever did and i need to clean it up and running right. I want to use the laptop for the following - IM and IRC communications, (kopete and kvirc) photo processing (digikam and gimp and gthumb) web browsing etc (firefox and konqueror) VM ware to run windows samba connections to my file servers (smb4k) Regular file management (konqueror) VNC and RDP Connections to windows servers SSH connections to linux servers VPN connection to my network at work Video capture via firewire (kino or equivalent) Use of detachable firewire hard drives use of iomega external USB dvd burner (k3b) use of internal cd rw drive / dvd reader (K3B) i need the wireless to work - im using the windows driver and NDISwrapper I use Fluxbox as my GUI wishes / wants -- i would really love the flash cards from my camera to automout and be read/write automatically Id also like the external usb / firewire drives and flash (thumb) dries to do the same thing the screen is 1440x900 the hdd is 80gb and i will be partitioning it thusly: 32mb - boot 1gb - swap remainder / it has 1gb memory onboard i have 2 hard drives for the machine, so i will keep the current gentoo install, and swap the other one in to build on, but that keeps it from being a rush job and hopefully i can get it right the first time. I will be taking this machine with me for 3 weeks storm chasing this summer and i need to be able to depend on it to always JUST WORK without hassles etc. I am looking for recomendations / suggestions / pitfalls etc to assembling this machine -- i will be following the manual for the build, but if anyone has done this type of builds in the past and has suggestions etc id appreciate recomendations, or links to appropriate howtos etc. Many of the things i want to add / build have howtos associated with them, and i will be using them. Thanks here are the various specs on the machine cat cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz stepping: 9 cpu MHz : 3200.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 6389.63 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz stepping: 9 cpu MHz : 3200.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 6383.12 lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to CSA Bridge (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller 03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02) 03:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4510 IEEE-1394 Controller 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation
RE: [gentoo-user] It is Bugday time!
Hi there! It is once again Bugday time! We will kick off Bugday in #Gentoo-Bugs on Saturday the 3'rd of March! Make sure you will be there! Hopefully we are able to fix as many bugs as last event, but join in and help us reach our goals ;) Best regards, Alexander -- Alexander Færøy Bugday Lead Alpha/IA64/MIPS Architecture Teams User Relations, Quality Assurance Is there a role for us non-programmers? I love gentoo and would like to help, but I don't program Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
So there we have it. Experienced users don't want to play twenty questions and inexperienced users don't know what information is relevant to the problem. Sort of a Catch22, though this is one of the better lists in all respects. However to new users more info is almost always better than less, but do try to present it with some organization. I can't agree more - in many cases (both here and on IRC) when I ask a question, its because I REALLY DON'T have a clue what may be wrong, or even (in some cases) how to Google for an answer, or what information is relevant / necessary to post. I do not mind at all if rather than providing a lenghty / detailed explaination, someone points me at a FAQ / HOWTO / Wiki article. (unless im in the middle of a crisis outage) I prefer to learn, so I can do it myself the next time, and possibly help those who might have the problem at a later time. In general, this list has been VERY VERY helpful to me and I am quite thankful for it. (unlike the list where I had a user reply to a question that I should follow this procedure: cd / rm -rf * ) Thankfully I caught that one before I actually executed it. Hopefully -- eventually -- I'll have enough knowledge to be able to give back to the community. TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame?
-Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:14 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 100% CPU usage with no processes to blame? On Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2007, brullo nulla wrote: Most likely you only looked at user cpu % and neglected to list the system and niced times as well. p.s. golden rule: ps lies. top lies. free lies. Don't believe the readings they give, rather interpret them in context. sob. it's not the first time I hear this. What should I believe to really know my system state? youc ould try htop. Maybe it lies a little bit less than top. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If I cannot trust the tools provided by the OS for finding out whats going on-- than what can I trust -- this is intolerable! - if it is simply a situation if a non root user not being able to see root processes that is one thing, BUT if it really is a situation of the tools not giving accurate asessments, that is a whole other situation, and one that just cannot be allowed to continue (not that I can do much other than scream about it, cuz im not a programmer) Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kernel panic from hell!
Hi group, I've been working and reading and tweaking and editing all day and gentoo will not boot. Typical kernel panic: grub root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1200, size=0x13d208] grubboot ,,,VFS: Cannot open root device hda3 or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct root= boot option Kernel panic-not syncing...unknown-block(0,0) Panics for hda1 and hda3. Whether I use the device names or grub (hd0,x) terminology. Whether or not I declare a root dev after /vmlinuz Yes, ext2fs support was compiled *into* the kernel. There are 4 primary partitions: hda1(boot-ext2), 2(swap), 3(root-ext2) and 4(home-ext2). Very simple. No dual boot. No extended partitions. e2fsck checks out for hda1 and hda3. No errors are noted for the drive in dmesg or fdisk. Is there something I haven't tried? Maxim Check to make sure you have all the disk drivers compiled in -- for your controller etc -- some ide / ata drives require odd ones here and there -- I have tons of these errors :) Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Program for Sound Recording of Church Services
Timothy A. Holmes ha scritto: Hi folks: Ive been using gentoo + fluxbox + audacity for about a year now recording our church services to wav or mp3 files. Its now upgrade time The system is a p3 400 running gentoo and fluxbox - im open to suggestions on the proper software to use Why having to change your software stack if the one you used works? Just install it on the new machine (if it's really needed to change the machine). Or are you having problems with the current software stack? I also suspect you don't even need audacity, you could do everything from the command line (don't ask me exactly how, but I'm quite sure)... Audacity is working adequetly, I was mostly wondering if there was a better tool out there that I didn't know about. The computer is being rebuilt due to it being VERY far back in the update / upgrade curve -- it still had monolitic x and, the wrong chost and the old gcc / profile -- its gonna be faster to rebuild than upgrade, and as long as im doing it, im going to lvm as well Thanks Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Program for Sound Recording of Church Services
Hi folks: Ive been using gentoo + fluxbox + audacity for about a year now recording our church services to wav or mp3 files. Its now upgrade time The system is a p3 400 running gentoo and fluxbox - im open to suggestions on the proper software to use Id like your input Thanks TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kopete on Gentoo / Fluxbox (SLIGHT OT)
David: I am currently using Xchat, which I like, but has a few annoyances to it as well, the biggest thing about kopete is having an all in one (and the IRC module in gaim is TERRIBLE!!!) as well as some easier to use interfaes and stuff TIM Are there any specific niggles/annoyances? I'm not trying to crusade for XChat users (being mainly an irssi man myself) just seeing if I can help at all, as I can't help much with Kopete issues (I use it for AIM and MSN only). e.g. One thing that annoyed me about XChat was the throttling it did when I tryed to /exec -o cowsay ;). /set net_throttle 0 worked perfectly : Cheers David David: My biggest complaint with xchat is that the notify system is very clunky and difficult to use and is very very prone to false positives, as well, it does not (that I have found) have a facility for keeping a list of chans that you frequent etc (other than the autojoin on start function). KVIRC works well for me but its quite unstable in some aspects, and the notification (sounds etc) system for it is a bit hard to use as its designed more for scripters etc. Konversation is nice, but has problems with some IRC daemons, and im not into the command line based stuff at all Tim Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kopete on Gentoo / Fluxbox (SLIGHT OT)
Hi folks: I would very much like to switch to kopete on my gentoo / fluxbox laptop, it seems to compile correctly, but there are a couple of problems, Im not sure if they are specific to the gentoo version of it or across the board. 1. In the IRC module, I need to be able to set independent sounds for different chans, the settings are there under advanced notifications, but when I set them, if a message arrives in the designated chan, the sound does not play. 2. I cannot seem to turn off Join / part messages in the IRC Module If anyone can help me I'd be very appreciative Feel free to contact me off list or as W8TAH in #gentoo Thanks TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kopete on Gentoo / Fluxbox (SLIGHT OT)
Hi folks: I would very much like to switch to kopete on my gentoo / fluxbox laptop, it seems to compile correctly, but there are a couple of problems, Im not sure if they are specific to the gentoo version of it or across the board. 1. In the IRC module, I need to be able to set independent sounds for different chans, the settings are there under advanced notifications, but when I set them, if a message arrives in the designated chan, the sound does not play. 2. I cannot seem to turn off Join / part messages in the IRC Module If anyone can help me I'd be very appreciative David: I am currently using Xchat, which I like, but has a few annoyances to it as well, the biggest thing about kopete is having an all in one (and the IRC module in gaim is TERRIBLE!!!) as well as some easier to use interfaes and stuff TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Feel free to contact me off list or as W8TAH in #gentoo Thanks TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Some may disagree, but personally I'd much rather use a dedicated IRC client for IRC. I tend to use irssi although XChat is perhaps friendlier. The latter would make it easy to see at a glance which channel(s) there was activity in. David Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses
-Original Message- From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:21 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: While language evolution is not a democratic process, I've never heard *anyone* use the word mouses for *anything* and if I had I would have corrected them by telling them mice is the proper plural of mouse, even when talking about a pointing device. In Argentina we do not say raton (spanish translation for mouse), but we say mouse, so, the plural for that is... mouses like in che, anda a buscar unos mouses (hey, got get some mouses). :) Anyway, mouses sounds just fine for me :P - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica LISTA DE CASAMIENTO: Cualquier Fravega a nombre de Busleiman (37520). http://www.buanzo.com.ar | http://www.vivamoslavida.com.ar : Portal no-comercial del buen vivir! You guys have no clue how BADLY I needed the entertainment break this thread has brought - THANK YOU!! TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... 28+E1A7yG7qitdojeZIkgss= =ZRht -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Traffic Visualizer
Several years ago I saw a (unfortunatly windows) program that when pluggined into a network, would allow the user to visualize traffic across the network. In that particular program, the network (or segment) was represented as a circle with hosts around the perimeter and lines representing traffic, the thicker the line, the more traffic. Im not hooked on that particular layout, but im looking for something similar that will allow me to get a grasp of which hosts are generating traffic and how much (we are seeing some slowdown problems that I need to try to locate) Programs in portage are preferable, but if it will run on gentoo without too much gymnastics, im interested. Thanks TIM Tim Holmes IT Manager / Webmaster / Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Several questions -- various topics
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:43 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Several questions -- various topics On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:09:55 -0500, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: or sudo (which does not work for wifi-radar). I have tried a sudo command for a switch on the modubar and it seemed to fight back, but its possible that I didn't get it set up right. Any suggestions or pointers would be very helpful. Without knowing what you tried, or how it fought back it's difficult to guess at what might be wrong. -- Neil Bothwick Employ teenagers - while they know everything. Hi Neil: Turns out that gksu has resolved all but one of the problems, and that one is with the shutdown command. If I run gksu shutdown -h now, gksu interperates the -h as a command to it, instead of connecting it to the shutdown command. The result is either the help information being displayed, or an error of an unrecognized command and the help output. This one is not as big an issue as I can exit fluxbox neatly and shutdown from gdm. Thanks a TON Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher / Science Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] My Snort server -- I Don't know whats wrong -- It seems to go to sleep
-Original Message- From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:27 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My Snort server -- I Don't know whats wrong -- It seems to go to sleep Hi, On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:32:10 -0500 Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The short summary is the box keeps going to sleep on me. It wont respond to ssh or webpage requests till I ping it about 10 times after that it works normally. First: I assume you've checked all cables and tried to exchange them against some that are known working? Maybe even tried another port on the switch for the administrative interface? Then it sounds like an ARP problem to me. I'd start with running tcpdump on the administrative interface in order to see what that machine's seeing, and when. My blind guess would be that something irritates the routing, hence my guess that ARP's a bit broken. The routing table entry would time out and the machine you're using to connect to the admin interface needs some time to get a proper ARP answer. Is that snort machine's kernel somehow patched w/ regard to ARP/Routing? Did you configure ARP via sysctl to non-default values? You can check that suggestion by setting a routing table entry for the target machine manually on your SSH client machine (arp -s). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hans: Thanks for the suggestions, It turned out that the problem was that the processor was entering a low power state after a period of time and needed to be woken up again -- adding no-hld to the kernel line in grub.conf solved the problem completely Thanks again TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] My Snort server -- I Don't know whats wrong -- It seems to go to sleep
352 S0 0.1 0:00.16 udevd 3645 root 15 0 1756 556 392 S0 0.1 0:00.05 syslog-ng 4674 root 16 0 3928 988 684 S0 0.1 0:00.00 sshd 4875 root 16 0 1764 672 548 S0 0.1 0:00.01 cron 4955 root 16 0 2328 1132 880 S0 0.1 0:00.02 login 4956 root 16 0 1552 628 544 S0 0.1 0:00.00 agetty 4957 root 16 0 1556 636 544 S0 0.1 0:00.00 agetty 4958 root 16 0 1552 628 544 S0 0.1 0:00.00 agetty 4959 root 16 0 1556 632 544 S0 0.1 0:00.00 agetty 4968 root 16 0 1552 628 544 S0 0.1 0:00.00 agetty 4984 root 18 0 2608 1508 1216 S0 0.2 0:00.00 bash 27368 root 15 0 5632 3096 1696 S0 0.3 0:03.60 snmpd 27528 mysql 16 0 125m 26m 4324 S0 3.0 0:29.14 mysqld 27556 root 16 0 11996 6236 2688 S0 0.7 0:00.07 apache2 27654 apache16 0 11996 4884 1360 S0 0.5 0:00.00 apache2 27655 apache15 0 16976 10m 2468 S0 1.2 0:02.22 apache2 27656 apache15 0 17064 10m 2484 S0 1.2 0:02.40 apache2 27657 apache16 0 16968 10m 2464 S0 1.2 0:02.11 apache2 27658 apache16 0 16996 10m 2492 S0 1.2 0:14.51 apache2 27659 apache16 0 17016 10m 2472 S0 1.2 0:04.35 apache2 31337 apache16 0 17060 10m 2460 S0 1.2 0:02.28 apache2 31387 apache16 0 16956 10m 2464 S0 1.2 0:02.21 apache2 5503 snort 15 0 71336 66m 3224 S0 7.5 0:12.69 snort 5568 root 16 0 14196 10m 1192 S0 1.2 0:07.71 barnyard 5787 root 15 0 6752 2136 1716 S0 0.2 0:00.04 sshd 5792 root 15 0 2608 1516 1224 S0 0.2 0:00.01 bash 5801 root 16 0 2132 1080 836 R0 0.1 0:00.00 top The output from cacti (snmp monitoring suite) tells me that the maximum inbout flow on the sniffing nick (eth0) over the last day has been 118.28K On the administrative nic, the maximum flows in the same time period have been: Inbound: 5.9Kb/s Outbound: 117.kb/s The sniffer nick is a the realtech nick The admin nick is the intel one The sniffer is on a mirrored port that copies all the traffic from our internet port directly behind the firewall, the admin interface is on a normal switch port in the core switch. Flows on those ports are well under 1 mb/s at all times. Processor numbers from cacti are averageng 0.00 in the 1, 5 and 15 minute categories The memory use has not invaded swap at all And processes running are under 80 at all times Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Stability Testing of a new server
Hi folks: I just finished building a new server running gentoo. Before I begin the application installs and start preparing it for prodcution, id like to test it a bit to see if its stable, I don't really know how I would do this, or if its even possible. The build is a little unusual, in that it's a stage4 dropped on a machine that is running LVM2. Any insights or suggestions that you can offer would be greatly appreciated TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Changing the NIC name
Hi folks I have a snort server that I am building that has 2 nics in it One is a 10/100 realtec The other is a 10/100/1000 Intel Pro1000 As the machine built, the realtech is eth0 and the intel is eth1 I would like to reverse those two names, so that snort can use the higher capacity card for its sniffer. I am not quite sure where to look even to begin this process. Thanks Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Changing the NIC name
On Monday 06 November 2006 21:59, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
I would like to reverse those two names, so that snort
can use the
higher capacity card for its sniffer. I am not quite
sure where to
look even to begin this process.
You can give arbitrary names to those interfaces by configuring udev
appropriately:
e.g. /etc/udev/rules.d/10-my-own-rules:
---snip
KERNEL==eth*, SYSFS{address}==00:12:34:fe:dc:ba, NAME=eth-lan
KERNEL==eth*, SYSFS{address}==00:56:78:98:76:54,
NAME=eth-sniff
---snip
You could also just tell Snort to use eth1. But this is useful info.
- Noven
--
-- Novensiles divi Flamen --
Miles Militis Fons
Ive been trying to do that - I can do it from command line, but not from
init script which is why im trying to change the names around
Timothy A. Holmes
IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
Medina Christian Academy
A Higher Standard...
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RE: [gentoo-user] Stability Testing of a new server
On 11/6/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just finished building a new server running Gentoo. Before I begin the application installs and start preparing it for production, id like to test it a bit to see if its stable, I don't really know how I would do this, or if its even possible. The build is a little unusual, in that it's a stage4 dropped on a machine that is running LVM2. I think running the build in a testing environment first is your best bet. -Mike Mike: I agree and in essence this is what I have done, the system is built and sitting there, what I need to know is how to test the system in that environment to make sure its gonna work properly Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT: NAS] linux based storage solutions
Being an Event Videographer one runs into hefty space requirments very quickly. I'm running 4 machines 3 are loaded for video editing and other graphics intensive stuff like photoshop and all the adobe tools. They have large drives but very quickly I've begun to need more massive storage accessable to all. My main desktop is gentoo linux but it doesn't figure largely in the video work. I'm looking at NAS [Network attached storage] appliances and finding they are either too simple and small or too expensive. Anyone here using a linux based solution for this kind of need? Any input on this would be most welcome. I'm thinking of getting a cheapish machine at 3.2 Ghz or so with a motherboard that allows at least 4 HDD maybe as many as 6. Using gentoo on the box for networking and it must have at least 2 gigabit eithernet adapters. I guess serving the windows boxes thru smb. The drives would be NTFS filesystems. Are there known problems with this kind of setup? Like maybe samba would choke on moving huge amounts of data or something? What raid configurations might be good for this? We have a small video editing setup here (one machine running premier) my storage server is a gentoo samba server, but I use it for nearline storage rather than online storage as ive had trouble in the past (1.5 ybp) with it not transferring fast enough to keep the rendering engine happy -- there have been several itinerations of premier and at least one of samba since then, so I cant speak to current capabiliites, but id like to give it a wack again. Please contact me offlist and prehaps we can colaborate a little bit to see what we can work out Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Your alternative for Google Picasa
Hi All, I have been using Konqueror to create photo albums with thumbnails and all, and seamlessly publish on a server. I've had a look at Google's Picasa and the 26.2M download it requires and wondered what the wider Gentoo community are using. What would/do you use to crete an album with thumbs for publishing on a website? -- Regards, Mick Mick: Ive been using Jalbum from http://www.jalbum.net You can check out some of the albums ive published at: http://www.w8tah.us/ Follow the links to Storm Chasing or Photography Anyone wants to discuss/ ask questions about Jalbum offline -- PLEASE -- feel free to contact me TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Your alternative for Google Picasa
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:10, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi All, I have been using Konqueror to create photo albums with thumbnails and all, and seamlessly publish on a server. I've had a look at Google's Picasa and the 26.2M download it requires and wondered what the wider Gentoo community are using. What would/do you use to crete an album with thumbs for publishing on a website? -- Regards, Mick Mick: Ive been using Jalbum from http://www.jalbum.net You can check out some of the albums ive published at: http://www.w8tah.us/ Follow the links to Storm Chasing or Photography Anyone wants to discuss/ ask questions about Jalbum offline -- PLEASE -- feel free to contact me Thanks Tim, it looks good - but it needs Java which I do not have installed on this laptop. -- Regards, Mick Mick: Ahhh --ok -- beyond that -- im afraid I don't have any solutions :) Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Net.eth0 is hesitant to start
Hi folks: I have recently done my routine System upgrades etc, and suddenly my wired ethernet port on my laptop is very hesitant to start -- I plug it in (or put it on the dock) and issue the start command /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start And it starts to bring up the interface, and just sits there Sometimes for quite sometime before I ctrl-c and try again -- sometimes doing it in a different window helps, as does rebooting and trying again. My list of processes in conky shows the script running and also arping but nothing changes and the interface doesn't start -- Can someone suggest a solution or problem TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Mouse going crazy in gnome
Can anyone help us with this? I have no idea what to do. Her mouse and my mouse are identical (optical) and our two xorg.conf files are very similar. I have not seen this phenomenon on my PC though. We are using modular X. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Michael, if it is the same mouse-effect I recognized as I tried to configure my X... It may be that the auto settings for the protocol fail to detect the correct protocol (the wrong protocol was the reason for the wild mouse in my case...). I cannot determine the kind of mouse (manufacturer, brand, interface...) from the output you send with your mail... My mouse is identified at boot time like this: input: Logitech N48 as /class/input/input0 input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [Logitech N48] on usb-:00:10.0-2.4 it is an three-button USB-mouse (Logitech). I configured it in xorg.conf like: Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Buttons 5 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 HTH Have a nice weekend! mcc I was wrong about her mouse being the same as mine: Her's is a Mitsumi wheel mouse and mine is a Logitech wheel mouse. Is there a way to view the boot up messages without actually rebooting? Also, I pulled this from her dmesg output: catherine ~ # dmesg | grep 'ouse' psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away. psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 1 bytes away. psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Any chance you are using a KVM Switch? -- ive had problems like that in gnome for years using kvm switches. Now I use fluxbox TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compiling binaries on a different server
Hi folks: I was reading the thread on the lightweight gentoo system. This to a degree meshed with what a friend and I have been talking about. Essentially setting up a standard image for all of my gentoo servers, and stage 4ing (is that a word?) that image to the servers. Once they are in production, building updates etc in a dedicated build environment and simply rolling out binaries to the boxes as they are needed. The concept sounds really good, giving me the ability to do (relatively) fast updates with binaries on the production servers, after they have been through testing, with out tying up resouces, and (more importantly) being able to fully test them prior to putting them into production. If anyone has done this type of thing, or has references, links, pointers etc I would REALLY appreciate them. Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Domainname
Hi folks; Must be my day for questions today :) Since the 2006.1 CD came out, I am finding that setting the domain name in the domainname file aparently does not work any more. What is the proper way to set this now? Im having difficulty tracking it down, and im not seeing it in the net.example. Can someone please point me in the right direction? TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Compiling binaries on a different server
On Friday 13 October 2006 15:16, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was reading the thread on the lightweight gentoo system. This to a degree meshed with what a friend and I have been talking about. Essentially setting up a standard image for all of my gentoo servers, and stage 4ing (is that a word?) that image to the servers. Once they are in production, building updates etc in a dedicated build environment and simply rolling out binaries to the boxes as they are needed. The concept sounds really good, giving me the ability to do (relatively) fast updates with binaries on the production servers, after they have been through testing, with out tying up resouces, and (more importantly) being able to fully test them prior to putting them into production. If anyone has done this type of thing, or has references, links, pointers etc I would REALLY appreciate them. I haven't done any stage4 stuff so no clue about how to do that. I only know that it's possible. But for the rest of it [1] should give you a hint... [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2; chap=3#doc_chap4 -- Bo Andresen Bo: The stage 4 stuff is quite easy and I do that routinely. If you want links or suggestions on how to do it I'll be glad to try to help -- its sped up my life considerably. It was the separate build host etc stuff that I was looking for. That section out of the handbook looks good --I'll start playing with it in a dev environment hopefully this weekend -- thanks for the pointer TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] VNC server / windows viewer
Good morning all: For a couple days now I have been looking for a good simple setup that will allow me to run vnc on one of my gentoo workstations at home and connect to it from my windows box in another area of the house. I am not going across the internet, or anything wild like that, just trying to keep an eye on my box (the active desktop in fluxbox) when im elsewhere in the house. So far all the VNC HOW-Tos etc that I have read involve what appears to me to be very overly complex tunneling over ssh etc (a good thing if I was going over the internet, but for what im doing, totally un-necessary) When I lived in the Fedora world, I could just install vncserver and start it up and it connected me to my active desktop and away I went. If anyone can suggest a method or solution, I would be MOST appreciative. TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] A nic with no IP
Hi folks: I am working on my snort sensor box which runs gentoo. The setup that I am going to do requires me to have one nic (an intel Pro1000) with no ip on it (it is currently eth0 as the machine is currently set up). I know how to set up the nic in the /etc/conf.d/net file but making it have no ip is a little different. Snort will put the nic in promiscous mode to capture packets Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A nic with no IP
I am working on my snort sensor box which runs gentoo. The setup that I am going to do requires me to have one nic (an intel Pro1000) with no ip on it (it is currently eth0 as the machine is currently set up). I know how to set up the nic in the /etc/conf.d/net file but making it have no ip is a little different. Snort will put the nic in promiscous mode to capture packets - From /etc/conf.d/net.example: # If you don't want ANY address (only useful when calling for advanced stuff) #config_eth0=( null ) Then add the interface in the runlevel, as usual. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Arturo -- thanks -- :) Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Eth0 not responding (sleeping??)
Hi, First: stop hijacking threads! On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:21:58 -0400 Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that the network adapter seems to fall asleep periodically. If I attempt to access the base webpage or ssh, I get no response till I ping the box -- 8 pings later, it wakes up and acts normally. For a while, then it starts over. Flaky switch? (Too) long or bad (non-standard) cabling? That was usually the explanation when I was seeing such behaviour. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hans: Not sure what you mean about hijacking the thread, but I am sorry -- I didn't mean to do anything wrong. As far as the switch, its on a hub that is on the span port of a foundry switch (the hub is used as a poormans network tap -- I have seen the same type of failure on machines directly connected to a switch also) The cable is a commercially manufactured cable that tests out correctly - -its about 6 feet long TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Eth0 not responding (sleeping??)
Flaky switch? (Too) long or bad (non-standard) cabling? That was usually the explanation when I was seeing such behaviour. Not sure what you mean about hijacking the thread, but I am sorry -- I didn't mean to do anything wrong. No, you're only hurting yourself: Thread hijacking describes using the reply facility of your email program to start a new thread (instead of starting a new, fresh email, e.g. by clicking on the ML address). Email agents that make use of information in the mail headers for displaying threads will show your mail inside the structure of an existing thread. Some people might not even find your message buried in there. See the following link for knowing what I mean: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/browse_frm/th read/601571a0fced1a73/e17f8a0483af6690?tvc=1 As far as the switch, its on a hub that is on the span port of a foundry switch (the hub is used as a poormans network tap -- I have seen the same type of failure on machines directly connected to a switch also) The cable is a commercially manufactured cable that tests out correctly - -its about 6 feet long Did you try if it works with another cable, on another port of the switch/hub? That would be proper exclusion of probable errors. You're description tells me what you have, but not if it's working right now. HTH, -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hans: Thanks for the explaination -- Outlook strikes again :( I will change the way I do things As far as the problem, I am going to try new hardware and see what happens TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
On Sunday 01 October 2006 21:04, Daniel Iliev wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I want to access remotely my father in law's laptop which is running WinXP to help him out with his IT problems. I assumed that krdc will do just that, but all it does is to ask me for the password for my kdewallet and then it fails. The error message tells me something about ensuring that remote desktop is properly installed. :-( Is there somewhere a How-to for me to follow, to be able to connect to a remote default installation WinXP PC, with no physical access to it, from my Gentoo machine? Failing a How-to, how do you do it? emerge net-misc/grdesktop Thank you. Given that grdesktop is just a gnome front end (equivalent to krdc, which I believe requires vnc) are any solutions that work with the default WinXP remote desktop/remote assistance set up? -- Regards, Mick I go from my gentoo laptop running fluxbox to all sorts of different computers running windows RDP constantly -- I use KRDC. When it fails on the wallet, just ok it and you should get the windows login screen anyway --I would say the bigger problem is his connection to the internet. It is LIKELY that his ISP does not have those ports open, for inbound (a way to get more money) that is the way our ISP here is - I cant even get NTP through :( Contact me off list if you need more help -- it works slick for me TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remote desktop to WinXP from Gentoo
On Sunday 01 October 2006 22:41, Daniel Iliev wrote: Ok, then just emerge rdesktop w/o the front-end and start it by typing rdesktop in kterminal or whatever is your favorite X-terminal-emulator. The basinc syntax is: rdesktop my-father's-pc Thanks again Daniel, I have tried to do that with no success. This is what I'm getting: = $ rdesktop 192.168.0.2 ERROR: connect: Connection refused $ rdesktop -u michael 192.168.0.2 ERROR: connect: Connection refused $ rdesktop study1 ERROR: connect: Connection refused $ rdesktop -u michael 192.168.0.2 -p - Password: ERROR: connect: Connection refused = I have disabled the WinXP firewall just in case . . . -- Regards, Mick That looks and smells a great deal like your father in laws isp has the ports blocked TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Eth0 not responding (sleeping??)
Hi folks: I have a gateway E4100 series computer acting as my snort box. It is running 2006.1 and has the intel Pro1000 nic. The box was built from a stage 4 install which I have 2 other identical machines running on. The problem is that the network adapter seems to fall asleep periodically. If I attempt to access the base webpage or ssh, I get no response till I ping the box -- 8 pings later, it wakes up and acts normally. For a while, then it starts over. Checking /var/log/messages indicates no problems, it shows the crons happily running, the snort startup etc. but nothing else. Can anyone shed some light on the problem and a possible solution. TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Should we NEVER do an ``emerge -u world''?
-Original Message- From: sdoma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:22 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Should we NEVER do an ``emerge -u world''? Hi, there is it again ... I've upgraded my system and things stop working. :((( After the upgrade there is no device coming up if I plug in an USB device. I'm on a stable (x86) system and I would need my USB disks just now. Any way to fix this quick? Thanks Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Sounds to me like something got modified by etc-update I would check there first TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Syncing Directories between 2 Linux boxes
Hi folks: I have brought my new Gentoo File server online over the weekend, and I am in the process of getting things set up. I have bumped into one situation that I could really use some help with. Please bear with me as a bit of explaination will be necessary. Our school website is hosted on our webserver (192.168.0.29) in /var/www/mca0506/htdocs the site is created with Macromedia Dreamweaver (I know I know) and the teachers edit it using Macromedia Contribute. This is important because, Dreamweaver makes changes to my local files (which are on 192.168.0.4/data/website/mca0506) and Contribute makes its changes directly on the live site on the main webserver. What I need is a way to sync the two bi-directionally. As I create pages etc, those changes would need to go up to the site, and as the teachers update their sites etc, those changes would need to be synced back to my local files, both so that I can Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: What is up with the new domainname situation?
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:50:28 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: It makes very little sense to ditch the unix norm of setting a systemwide domain name in favor of doing it per interface! True. And that's probably why you don't *have* to set it per interface. Exactly, the current system gives the choice of setting it globally or per-interface in the same file. Can you please guide me how to set it up globally? It's all in /etc/conf.d/net.example. I am not sure I can follow the otherwise well commented /etc/conf.d/net. What problems do you have specifically? What did you try? What was the expected outcome and what did you get in reality? I saw this: # dns_domain_eth0=your.domain in the /etc/conf.d/net.example and added: dns_domain=STUDY but still .none comes up: # domainname (none) -- Regards, Mick [Timothy A. Holmes] I am not sure if this is related or not, but for some reason, my resolv.conf keeps getting modified, causing samba to fail. I open it and all that is in there is the domain, no name servers. If someone has a solution, please tell me -- my file server is now offline Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] changing CHOST
On 9/12/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/06, darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: system. The cpu instructions are forward (but not backward) compatible. Thus, I did not think it necessary for a wholesale rebuild of the entire system on the spot. Indeed it seems this is not as simple as I thought. I may have been thinking changing CHOST was as simple as changing -march or -mcpu... Well I've brought up the issue on -dev, and it seems that something official is in the works on this, so we'll see what comes of that. Maybe your answer will turn out to be correct! And indeed, the emerge -e world may in fact be optional. A quite from the current draft of the guide [1]: - You may want to run # emerge -e world now. In theory it should not be necessary to do so, but it can not be 100% guaranteed that this is actually the case. ;-) I think I'd still like to see people run an emerge -e system regardless...just as an extra safety step to make sure the system packages are sane. But my understanding of what can be affected by a change in CHOST is definitely changed. -Richard [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~amne/temp/change-chost.txt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Hi folks -- I really appreciate all the input on this -- It turns out - the system borked and wouldn't let me login from ssh or console, so I dropped in a live cd and am in the process of rebuilding it (with the proper stage) Thanks again for all the help -- I really appreciate it and I have learned a great deal TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] changing CHOST
-Original Message- On 9/9/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it, I change the chost, and then emerge -e system emerge -e world Hmm, same answer I gave you yesterday: change CHOST in make.conf /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh emerge -e system emerge -e world Me thinks the mail list bug has struck again. Let me know if you don't get this one. ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Richard: I got this one - thanks, the problem is that im getting conflicting advice from multiple sources. I asked again to try to clarify. Ive received answers that range from You cant do that no matter what To You don't want to do that To It wont do any good To Your answer To Bootstrap wont run To No need for bootstrap, just change and do the emerges Im a bit confused to be honest Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] changing CHOST
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Richard Fish Sent: Sun 9/10/2006 2:30 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] changing CHOST On 9/10/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard: I got this one - thanks, the problem is that im getting conflicting advice from multiple sources. I think the problem with this is (and I don't mean to offend when I say this...) that the people who would be able to figure out how to successfully change CHOST on a live system have never have to do so, because they set it right from the start. So my advice is based on: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/169260 As well as forums threads such as: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-386633.html (BTW, one has to be a bit careful on the forums, as some of those threads have answers from people who recommend merging system and world twice eachwhich is pretty much useless.) You cant do that no matter what Pretty sure this isn't true. But it would be wrong to suggest that it is an easy thing to change, or say that there is some method that guarantees you won't end up booting from your live CD to repair things. To You don't want to do that This one seems entirely up to you. At this point in Gentoo, you either have to change CHOST, or add =sys-libs/glibc-2.4 to /etc/portage/package.mask, since 2.4 is nptl only, and that requires better than i386. To It wont do any good If this was the entire answer, it is simply clueless. Using the CHOST that matches your processor lets gcc use more effecient instructions for newer processors. This is what makes nptl so more efficient than linuxthreads, because it uses processor instructions specifically designed for multi-CPU synchronization. Now whether the improvements are worthwhile or not is a subjective thing, and one could argue that it isn't worth the effort. This goes back to the previous point. To Bootstrap wont run Sounds like a bug. To No need for bootstrap, just change and do the emerges Well I would have thought so too, but that hasn't worked for some people. Again, there is no definitive guide on changing CHOST. The safest option is to boot from a livecd and re-install using the new CHOST. But if you are willing to go that far anyway, it can't hurt to try the bootstrap.sh ; emerge -e system ; emerge -e world sequence. Basically, if you make it through the emerge -e system part, you have a sane base system and anything else that breaks indicates a problem with the change in profile or gcc versions, not the change in CHOST. BTW, Darren's answer on this thread seems incorrect to me. Changing CHOST is a pretty significant thing to tweak, certainly as significant as changing gcc versions, and you really should re-merge *everything* to make sure your something doesn't wind up broken. Im a bit confused to be honest That's ok. It isn't an easy question to answer unfortunately. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Richard: thanks a great deal for your answer -- it is extremely helpful. I think i will give it a shot, the system in question right now is only my rsync mirror -- it as additional tasks planned to be installed, but that hasn't happened yet. if i can get it to run, then it is cool, but if not, i havent lost a great deal. I do however have a couple other production boxes that I REALLY dont want to have to rebuild that might (i havent checked yet) be built using the same stage 3 -- they are running ok, speeds and processor loads look ok, so if this breaks this box, im not going to attempt it on the other ones. I'll let you know how it goes TIM winmail.dat
[gentoo-user] changing CHOST
Hi folks: In the course of learning gentoo, I managed to create several systems using the wrong stage 3 tarballs (or something) They all have a CHOST setting of i386 Should I change this? What benefits will it bring me, and How do I do it? As I understand it, I change the chost, and then emerge -e system emerge -e world Any input you can provide would be welcome TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [Timothy A. Holmes] [user] I reply here because I, like others am interested in the responses as well Documentation CONTROL -- configure it the way I want it Great user support Fun challenge Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
How much hardware leeway is safe to accept when using a source 4 tarball for an installation? For example, I have 2 basic models of server one is a gateway pancake server - p4 3.0 ghz HT, about 512m of memory and 500Gb sata drives The other is roughly similar but in a standard case the processor and hdd specs are very close if not identical, but there may be some differences in the boards as these are not specifically server boards TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
And if you want to prevent compilation issues, applications crash, you'd better not follow the Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide [1] and do not upgrade gcc at all... :-( Sorry for this sarcasm, but I am fighting with gcc-upgrade for more than week. If I knew there would be so many issues, I'd have never started upgrading gcc! Even complete reinstalling using new 2006.1 cd would be much easier... That four line procedure for gcc-upgrade in [1] looks quite simple, but they forgot to mention that finally you will end with not-so-stable system, as before. And that only if you will be lucky enough to reach the end of this upgrade-martyrium... Jarry [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml [Timothy A. Holmes] I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
-Original Message- From: Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:25 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Most of my problems came in the stage of the revdep-rebuild things simply wouldn't build. I finally solved it by un-installing as many of the offending packages as I could, multiple emerge --sync and about 10 attempts at revdep-rebuild NOT a process I wanna go through again -- believe me!!! -- sadly -- I don't have a choice -- ive already got one machine that wont upgrade until I do it - -im just delaying as long as possible Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
-Original Message- From: kashani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:03 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware Timothy A. Holmes wrote: How much hardware leeway is safe to accept when using a source 4 tarball for an installation? For example, I have 2 basic models of server one is a gateway pancake server - p4 3.0 ghz HT, about 512m of memory and 500Gb sata drives The other is roughly similar but in a standard case the processor and hdd specs are very close if not identical, but there may be some differences in the boards as these are not specifically server boards Assuming your CPU's are the same or you're willing to use the lowest common denominator it's mostly a matter of building the drivers for both platforms into your kernel. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Cool -- that makes life very good indeed -- as far as I know the driver configurations are essentially identical so that out to be easy -- the processors are identical TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Bo: The guide that I followed is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Under section 3 Upgrading from GCC-3.3 to 3.4 or greater The instructions specify to use Revdep-rebuild -- and I quote If you upgrade from gcc 3.3 to 3.4, you have two possibilities on how to upgrade your system. The first method is faster and requires use of the revdep-rebuild tool from package gentoolkit while the second one rebuilds the entire system from scratch so it will make use of new GCC features. It's up to you to decide which of these two ways you will choose. In most cases, the first method is sufficient. This particular rebuild was going from 3.3 to 4.0 so revdep-rebuild was indicated - I did that rebuild some time back and don't remember what was the problem other than that I want to avoid it again. TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:02 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? On Friday 08 September 2006 17:12, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Most of my problems came in the stage of the revdep-rebuild things simply wouldn't build. I finally solved it by un-installing as many of the offending packages as I could, multiple emerge --sync and about 10 attempts at revdep-rebuild There is no revdep-rebuild stage in the gcc upgrading guide. Did you mean emerge -e world? Anyhow, it isn't very helpful when you don't say which compiles failed and how. Really leaves us no way to help you or figure out what you did wrong... -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
-Original Message- From: kashani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:14 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Cool -- that makes life very good indeed -- as far as I know the driver configurations are essentially identical so that out to be easy -- the processors are identical I've got two sets of hardware, one has LSI scsi cards and e1000. The other has SATA and tg3 network cards. I build a kernel that'll support both and use the same disk layout. Having SATA is nice since everything is still /dev/sda rather than /dev/hda so I don't have to modify anything. BTW how are you building your stage4. We have some inhouse scripts to do it that work fairly well. Are there Gentoo built stage4 tools anywhere? kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] I follow the wiki for my stage 4s and they seem to work good Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
-Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:36 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? On Friday 08 September 2006 19:09, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: The guide that I followed is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Under section 3 Upgrading from GCC-3.3 to 3.4 or greater [SNIP] This particular rebuild was going from 3.3 to 4.0 so revdep-rebuild was indicated - That part is for gcc-3.3 - 3.4 ONLY. It is NOT for an upgrade to gcc-4.x or any other gcc upgrade. You were supposed to follow 2. General Upgrade Instructions. Might consider reading [1] too. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html PS: Please stop top-posting. [Timothy A. Holmes] Sorry bout the top post -- outlook strikes again !!! I'll defiantly read the indicated section Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:50 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? On 9/8/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? There are a few classes of problems here: 1. Packages failing to build with gcc-4.1. Usually the ~arch version of that package will build fine, so you may need to accept ~arch keywords for some packages in package.keywords. This is by far the most common and serious issue. 2. C++ ABI issues. While the system is in the process of being rebuilt, you can have some C++ programs using a different ABI than the libraries they link to, or the libraries can have conflicting ABIs. This should not be a problem once the emerge -e world completes, but can make it difficult to use the system while this is happening. 3. Problems with other packages being blamed on the gcc upgrade. FEX glibc-2.4 is now nptl only, and will no longer work in i386 hosts (must be i586 or better), and probably conflicts with no-nptl profiles, etc. You might want to take a look at the tracker bugs: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140707 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117482 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Richard: I have a system that I apparently built using the wrong stage 3 Make.conf has chost as i386 but it's a Pentium 4 box Im just about to start the emerge eav system Should I wait and /or fix something b4 I proceed? TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] problem with a world update
Hi folks;
I have a server that im getting ready to build as a file server -- the
OS is installed (several months ago-- its been idleing) and im doing an
emerge -NDuav world to get it all up to date.
Im getting the following error, and I have no clue what to do about it,
can someone please point me in the right direction?
** adjusting tabset paths
sed -f run_tic.sed
/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/misc/terminfo.src
terminfo.tmp
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/narrowc/misc'
cd c++ make DESTDIR= all
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/narrowc/c++'
/usr/bin/g++ -I../c++ -I../include
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/../include -I.
-I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG {-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer} -fPIC -c
/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/cursesf.cc -o
../obj_s/cursesf.o
/usr/bin/g++ -I../c++ -I../include
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/../include -I.
-I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG {-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer} -fPIC -c
/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/cursesm.cc -o
../obj_s/cursesm.o
/usr/bin/g++ -I../c++ -I../include
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/../include -I.
-I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG {-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer} -fPIC -c
/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/cursesw.cc -o
../obj_s/cursesw.o
g++: {-O2: No such file or directory
g++: {-O2: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/g++ -I../c++ -I../include
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/../include -I.
-I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG {-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer} -fPIC -c
/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/cursespad.cc -o
../obj_s/cursespad.o
g++: {-O2: No such file or directory
g++: {-O2: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [../obj_s/cursesf.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: *** [../obj_s/cursespad.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [../obj_s/cursesw.o] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
!!! ERROR: sys-libs/ncurses-5.5-r2 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile
ncurses-5.5-r2.ebuild, line 49: Called do_compile
ncurses-5.5-r2.ebuild, line 91: Called die
!!! make failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
Timothy A. Holmes
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RE: [gentoo-user] problem with a world update
Could you send the output of 'emerge -V'? /JM [Timothy A. Holmes] srvweb-01 ~ # emerge -V Portage 2.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.16-gentoo-r6Kernel5-9-2006a i686) srvweb-01 ~ # Timothy A. Holmes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] problem with a world update
Did you upgrade gcc ? On 9/6/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you send the output of 'emerge -V'? /JM [Timothy A. Holmes] srvweb-01 ~ # emerge -V Portage 2.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.16-gentoo-r6Kernel5-9-2006a i686) srvweb-01 ~ # Timothy A. Holmes Not yet, should I do that first? Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] problem with a world update
-Original Message-
From: James Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:59 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] problem with a world update
On 9/6/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks;
I have a server that im getting ready to build as a file server --
the
OS is installed (several months ago-- its been idleing) and im doing
an
emerge -NDuav world to get it all up to date.
Im getting the following error, and I have no clue what to do about
it,
can someone please point me in the right direction?
** adjusting tabset paths
sed -f run_tic.sed
/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/misc/terminfo.src
terminfo.tmp
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/narrowc/misc'
cd c++ make DESTDIR= all
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/narrowc/c++'
/usr/bin/g++ -I../c++ -I../include
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/var/tmp/portage/ncurses-5.5-r2/work/ncurses-5.5/c++/../include
-I.
-I../include -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG {-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer} -fPIC -c
It looks like your CFLAGS setting in /etc/make.conf might be screwed
up - contains some curly braces {} ?
HTH-
James
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[Timothy A. Holmes]
James:
The setting is set per the handbook -- with a couple mods for speed
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS={$CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j4
Timothy A. Holmes
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RE: [gentoo-user] problem with a world update
-Original Message-
From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:45 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] problem with a world update
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 20:33, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
The setting is set per the handbook -- with a couple mods for speed
[SNIP]
CXXFLAGS={$CFLAGS}
No it's not. Should be:
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
--
Bo Andresen
[Timothy A. Holmes]
OOPPP -- VERY RED FACE!!!
Thanks BO
Timothy A. Holmes
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RE: [gentoo-user] splash for laptop
Have you read the gentoo-wiki[1] on gensplash? Note it says: Note that just because your monitor and graphics card support a certain resolution, it doesn't mean that your Video BIOS - and by extension your frame buffer device does. It goes through some info on non-standard resolutions, but I haven't tried that part of the instructions, as my 1680x1050 is now standard! [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash HTH, -- [Timothy A. Holmes] Iain - I had missed that - the copy of the wiki article I have was printed some time ago, so It may have been added later or (quite possibly) I just plain missed it - thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] splash for laptop
-Original Message- From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:18 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] splash for laptop On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 08:04 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Have you read the gentoo-wiki[1] on gensplash? Note it says: Note that just because your monitor and graphics card support a certain resolution, it doesn't mean that your Video BIOS - and by extension your frame buffer device does. It goes through some info on non-standard resolutions, but I haven't tried that part of the instructions, as my 1680x1050 is now standard! [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash Iain - I had missed that - the copy of the wiki article I have was printed some time ago, so It may have been added later or (quite possibly) I just plain missed it - thanks so for the record, does that mean you got it to work, or you didn't get it to work? Did you try making your own resolution-ed framebuffer image? -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Always think of something new; this helps you forget your last rotten idea. -- Seth Frankel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Iain: I have not gotten it to work, simply because I haven't had time to try -- I got to work this morning to face a MOUNTAIN of projects and 4 classes to teach :) I will be working on it later on (when later on is, im no sure) I tried in the past to resize the image in gimp, and the image came through, but was badly distored (colors) In that case I had used the 2004 splash (I think it was) -- I tried that a couple months ago TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] splash for laptop
Hi folks: I have a laptop with a 1440x900 display panel and I would really like to use the Gentoo2006 (honeycomb) theme for my splash. How do I convert / modify / whatever the graphic to be able to be used on my big display. Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Getting Photos From A Digital Camera
Why not set up your camera to act as a USB disk? I do it this way and use the very special tools like ``mount'', ``ls'' and ``cp'' ;o) I second this. Just set something like: = /dev/sda /mnt/sdaauto,vfat,msdos noauto,user,noatime 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto,vfat,msdos noauto,user,noatime 0 0 = depending on what your camera's flash memory is recognised as (look in your dmesg output when you plug it in) and then use ls, or your file manager to look at and manipulate its contents. If you have hald it should be picked up automatically without you having to create the /mnt/sda directory or manually mount/umount the device. -- Regards, Mick [Timothy A. Holmes] Springboarding from this, Can someone point me to a SIMPLE procedure for making my card reader / flash drives auto mount -- I do it routinely from the command line and it works nicely, but the automount would be nice TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Samba file server - Hints and tips needed
Good Morning everyone: I am preparing to bring a Samba file server online on my network. The box is a p4 3.0ghz HT box with 500GB in 2 SATA drives -- it works fine with the base OS installed. I want to get it set up right to be able to serve as a file server with my windows 2003 Active Directory Network. The network has a primary domain controller (srvdc-01 192.168.0.2) and a secondary domain controller(srvdc-02) (I know - those terms are out of date but that's how it works) The users all authenticate through the active directory and I would like them to be able to use the samba shares transparently (without further authentication). I have 2 wiki articles printed here ready to use, Specifically the HOWTO add a gentoo server to a windows network, and HOWTO setup Samba I was wondering if anyone knew of any other useful docs that can ease this process. The last time I did a samba server (the one this is replacing -- under fedora) it was about a 3 week process to get it working right, I really don't have that kind of time right now and would like to draw on the collective experience here. Thanks a bunch TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Printing
Good Morning All: I have installed Cups and gotten it all set up, and I can print test pages from the web interface, but I cannot seem to print from applications -- like firefox. I am not sure what to do to make it work right -- the installed printers are just not there Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] testing SATA drives
Hi folks: I have a server that failed under fedora a while back, the EXT3 partition ended up with thousands of errors on it and the journal corrupted itself into oblivion. I was able (I don't know how) to recover my data, but I wiped it out formatted the drives and installed gentoo. I now want to test the drives (they are now blank except for the os) to see if the problem was with fedora and lvm (the old one) or if it is a physical or electrical problem with the disks. The disks are SATA drives 2x 250gb -- I am not sure how to proceed and I googling has not been helpful -- it may be there, I just haven't found it. The server is a spare till I can validate it, then it will be moved back to production status. The result of that is, its ok if the testing takes some time etc. Thanks for all your help Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] A couple questions
Hi Folks: I have a couple things that I am working on and I could use some help: 1. VPN I have a VPN set up on my pix firewall, its using the MS-CHAPP protocol (it's a PIX501) I need to set up a good (easy to use) VPN Client for my gentoo laptop 2. Backup I have Backup Exec 10 from Veritas, with a quantum DLT loader -- I need to come up with a way to back up to that device from the Gentoo Servers (2 right now) -- I had it working on fedora, so im guessing I can make it work on gentoo, but any alternative solutions etc would be most appreciated 3. Work Log Im looking for a good hours logging program that can handle real times. The main problem with excel / open office spreadsheet is that it does not like times, and cant easily calculate the hours expended. I don't need the financial side of the package, just an easy way to track my hours by project. Thanks folks Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A couple questions
On 8/2/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a couple things that I am working on and I could use some help: 1. VPN http://gentoo-portage.com/Search?search=vpn 2. Backup http://gentoo-portage.com/app-backup 3. Work Log http://www.google.com/search?q=excel+time+difference Timothy A. Holmes Google and Gentoo-Portage are your friend... please use them! -Mike [Timothy A. Holmes] Sorry -- I wrote that initial message in a hurry - and wasn't detailed enough: The vpn issue is not the ability to find clients it is the ability to make the clients work. I have tested / tried all the clients listed there and none of them would allow me to connect to my PIX VPN, the idea of a VPN Server surfaced, and that will not work because the PIX insists on glomming on to the vpn traffic instead of letting it past. I was hoping someone had a work around. Backup: I was hoping someone knew of a way to get my gentoo servers to talk to the BackupExec engine easily -- Amanda and such will not work with windows etc, I exist in a mixed environment and must back up both types of boxes Work Log -- hadn't managed to find that one yet -- will investigate further Thanks Timothy A. Holmes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] NDISWRAPPER
Hi folks: I rebuilt my kernel the other day and my wireless nick suddenly stopped operating, I re-emerged NDISWRAPPER and followed the howto on the forum to re-install it Every time I do Modprobe ndiswrapper I get a fatal error saying that the module is not found I need to know were to go from here Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NDISWRAPPER
On 7/18/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks: I rebuilt my kernel the other day and my wireless nick suddenly stopped operating, I re-emerged NDISWRAPPER and followed the howto on the forum to re-install it Which kernel? As I recall, ndiswrapper requires a kernel with a 16k stack, so the standard vanilla-sources would not work... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] I am using gentoo sources Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Linux Kernel Warning
-Original Message- From: Daniel Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:59 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Kernel Warning Daniel Drake wrote: However, there is a new security bug in the wild, with similar implications. Keep an eye open for new kernel releases over the next few hours. No patch yet, suitable workaround is: # mount -o remount,noexec /proc Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Thanks folks: Guess I learned something else new! -- I am finding out fast that learning and using gentoo is mostly like trying to drink from a firehose :) Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Linux Kernel Warning
Hi Folks: I received the following warning from SANS yesterday, and I need to know how to appropriately respond: http://www.isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1482 To summarize the story at the above link, there appears to be a vulnerability in the linux kernel, which when exploited, will allow a user to gain root privileges. Normally, I would simply upgrade to the latest kernel from portage, and be done with it, however, here is the problem: QUOTING SANS HERE: As all kernels 2.6.13 up to version 2.6.17.4 and 2.6.16 before 2.6.16.24 are affected, you should patch as soon as possible, even if you don't allow any local users on your machines. As of this morning, the latest Kernel version in portage is 2.6.16-r12. It seems that there is a different versioning / naming scheme used but im not sure. Can someone please let me know how to respond, or point me to appropriate reading so I can protect myself. Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC -- Palm Tungsten E, and Google Calendar
On 11/07/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have followed the above Wiki article, and have hit a snag. Further down the same webpage it also gives instructions on creating a udev rule . . . Also, check the links at the bottom of the page and the forum. HTH -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Hi Mick -- I have followed the instructions on creating the UDEV rule, and everything works perfectly up to that point. I will check out the forum, thanks for the suggestion TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC -- Palm Tungsten E, and Google Calendar
Selon Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/07/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have followed the above Wiki article, and have hit a snag. Further down the same webpage it also gives instructions on creating a udev rule . . . Also, check the links at the bottom of the page and the forum. HTH -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Hi Mick -- I have followed the instructions on creating the UDEV rule, and everything works perfectly up to that point. So have I, and it works every once in a while... Sometimes it works 2 or 3 times in a row, sometimes it just can't read /dev/pilot (that does exist...) Finally, I use the final solution as described in the wiki page : create dirs and links at boot time. Works fine... Conclusion udev is flaky regarding PDA's sync. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Ok -- I will give that a try -- thanks Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC -- Palm Tungsten E, and Google Calendar
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 20:24, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Selon Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Finally, I use the final solution as described in the wiki page : create dirs and links at boot time. Works fine... Conclusion udev is flaky regarding PDA's sync. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Ok -- I will give that a try -- thanks I do not have a Palm pilot, but the same principles apply for the HTC Alpine phone/PDA (marketed as an Xda IIi on an O2 contract in the UK) which is running WindozeCE. I didn't have to create a udev rule and it is being picked up alright. I can't remember if I have to run udevstart when I connect it - but I believe that I don't need to do that (sorry I'm away from the PC right now). I am using app-pda/syncekonnector, app-pda/synce-kde, app-pda/synce-serial. Unfortunately, due to proprietary M$ code no syncing takes place with Korganizer/Kontact and the current versions of the above packages, but can browse the HTC's filesystem and copy/move files with Konqueror using rapip:/ in the address bar. -- Regards, Mick [Timothy A. Holmes] The above solution works -- sort of -- using that solution will allow me to sync -- ONCE -- it will not sync again till I run UDEVSTART then it syncs again properly -- any ideas what to do now? TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC -- Palm Tungsten E, and Google Calendar
On 7/10/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to be able to sync my palm tungsten E to my google calendar, and I am wondering if it would be possible to use evolution or other linux program to accomplish this -- I know it's a bit off topic for the list, so feel free to contact me off list if you want. Could sure use some help on this TIM Have not tried it but suggest you look at: http://gentoo- wiki.com/HOWTO_USB_sync_for_Palm_PDAs_with_Evolution_2.0_and_udev may also google for 'palm evolution' ;-) -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] I have followed the above Wiki article, and have hit a snag. In the article it says Start off by attempting to get the basic information about the PDA. Run pilot-xfer --port /dev/tts/USB1 --list and hit the hotsync button on the PDA when prompted. It should spit out a list of information. We're not terribly interested in the information, just the fact that communication is possible. Note: If it reports something like... The device /dev/tts/USB1 does not exist.. Possible solution: mknod /dev/tts/USB1 c major minor Unable to bind to port: /dev/tts/USB1 Please use --help for more information ...it means that your udev daemon is not creating the right /dev/tts/USB* files. But if you run pilot-xfer AFTER pressing HotSync button, the pilot-xfer does not report the problem, and USB* show up in the /dev/tts dir. Try changing from USB1 to USB0, or try using /dev/pilot after pressing the HotSync button. I am getting that error message, and have tried resetting the path repeatedly, and nothing seems to make a difference, Im not sure where to go from here? can someone please point me to a solution? TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC -- Palm Tungsten E, and Google Calendar
Hi Folks: I am looking to be able to sync my palm tungsten E to my google calendar, and I am wondering if it would be possible to use evolution or other linux program to accomplish this -- I know it's a bit off topic for the list, so feel free to contact me off list if you want. Could sure use some help on this TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
Does anyone have any suggestions/preferences to a secure FTP server for Gentoo? My 55+ year old father-in-law wants to start learning building websites. I am having him install Nvu and want to setup ftp to my web server and give him his own directory to play with. I have never had a need for ftp since I have always used ssh. However, I want to make it as easy as possible for him to learn web page design, so that is why I thought ftp would be the easiest and most supported by tools. He uses winXP and I think Nvu can publish to ftp. If he really gets into building websites, he wants to purchase something like dreamweaver. From my perspective, I don't want an ftp server that will allow someone to get in to my gentoo box by brute forcing a username and password. I guess I can install something like denyhosts if the ftp server uses tcp wrappers. Thanks for any guidance, Jim [Timothy A. Holmes] Take a look at sftp - its part of ssh - I don't know if nvu supports it or not but I know dreamweaver does Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
-Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server Tuesday 06 June 2006 18:01 skrev JimD: I don't know what windows software he will always use. He may try FrontPage or Dreamweaver or some other tool. I would *really* recommend that he does not use Frontpage. It produces crap code... I know nothing about Dreamweaver though. -- Bo Andresen [Timothy A. Holmes] I love dreamweaver -- it works really great - the code is a bit verbose, BUT it is also very easy to trace because of that - I use it for all of our sites here - If you want a look http://www.mcaschool.net there may be a few errors lying about -- but those are mine, NOT dreamweavers and it does support sftp TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
On 6/6/06, Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Daniel, if you learn on a GUI its far too easy to make bad websites. Start with VI and a good book, and do yourself a favor learning CSS and XHTML since that is where web design is headed. It is probably a good idea to start with a good text editor and a book, but trying to learn vi and web design at the same time might be a bit overwhelming! -- Evan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] In this sense I am afraid I cannot agree with you. While I agree that it is ABSOLUTLY essential to learn XHTML and CSS code, trying to start from a blank vi or notepad screen is an exercise in frustration -- been there done that -- as I was beginning to learn web programming, working under incredible pressure from the then resident administration, I was trying to hand code everything in Visual InterDev. The crowning moment was 5 hours spent to produce 2 lines of NON-WORKING code. I far more recommend a authoring package like Dreamweaver that allows you to flip views or even split the views, so you can see what is happening to your code each time you make an insertion. I tend to do the pretty stuff in the gui and use the code editor (which has autocomplete and some other nice stuff) to do the code. In some cases (like constructing querys etc) DW makes it very easy to accomplish and provides CONSISTANT and WORKING code, which is something that beginning web builders have a hard time with. Even if you are set on doing hand code, do it with a coding editor such as Dreamweaver - the color coding, line numbers etc make it much easier to debug I would at ALL COSTS -- stay away from Front Page -- the code that it produces is HORRIBLE. Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Screen Power down
Hi folks: I, like several others have been battling the problem of screens going into power saver mode, and I have not been able to come to a resolution to it yet. I followed the discussion of several weeks ago, and it did not appear to make a difference. I have pasted in the relavant parts of my xorg.conf. If someone could please help me out here -- this is getting a bit frustrating -- the options I specified according to the messages from a couple weeks ago in the section under the monitor (the DPMS etc) There was a question at the time of the discussion if the 0 was the appropriate value to turn stuff off, but I never heard a resolution on that either. # ** # Monitor section # ** Section Monitor Identifier Laptop Panel HorizSync 31.5 VertRefresh 50-70 Option DPMS true Option BlankTime 0 Option StandbyTime 0 Option SuspendTime 0 Option OffTime 0 EndSection # ** # Graphics device section # ** Section Device Identifier Standard VGA VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver vga EndSection # Device configured by xorgconfig: Section Device Identifier Ati Radeon 9600 M Driver radeon #VideoRam131072 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection # ** # Screen sections # ** Section Screen Identifier Screen 1 Device Ati Radeon 9600 M Monitor Laptop Panel DefaultDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 1280x1024 800x600 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 1280x1024 800x600 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 modes 1440x900 # Modes 1024x768 1280x1024 800x600 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down
-Original Message- From: Peper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:43 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down If you are using KDE check your settings in Control Center(Peripherals - Display - Power Control Tab). Second thing is to check if you don't have any power saving oprions in your monitor's OSD menu. -- Best Regards, Peper -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Peper: I use fluxbox on all my gentoo stations, and the monitor is a lcd panel on the laptop TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: Remove the following line. Option DPMS true blah blah That should work. If DPMS is not enabled it should not be able to cut off the monitor at all. Don't forget to check setterm if you are using a console. That is controlled seperately from the GUI stuff. [Timothy A. Holmes] Hu -- its still powering down -- after about 10 minutes or so -- any other ideas? Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix the use flags, so after that im to the point of asking for some help :) -- My IDS box is the next one on the list to be fixed. I would like to be able to rebuild the kernel for what I use it for - -No problem there -- that's simple. And I would like to take out all the unused use flags and replace them with a basic set - -this is where I have gotten into trouble before on the other systems -- I can edit them in make.conf so I have what I want - right now it looks like I will be using USE=apache2 dev/lang-php mysql -ipv6 -mmx -mp3 -nls -xmms -alsa -arts Knowing that, once I edit make.conf, what do I need to do next to get stuff re-compiled etc? Any other recommendation etc??? Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:22 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi folks: A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them trying to fix the use flags, so after that im to the point of asking for some help :) -- Too much optimisation can be a bad thing. My IDS box is the next one on the list to be fixed. I would like to be able to rebuild the kernel for what I use it for - -No problem there -- that's simple. And I would like to take out all the unused use flags and replace them with a basic set - -this is where I have gotten into trouble before on the other systems -- I can edit them in make.conf so I have what I want - right now it looks like I will be using USE=apache2 dev/lang-php mysql -ipv6 -mmx -mp3 -nls -xmms -alsa -arts What is dev/lang-php doing in there? If your intention is for the mysql USE flag to only apply to dev/lang-php then put the line 'dev-lang/php mysql' into /etc/portage/package.use Also mmx is not a default USE flag, specifically disabling it is redundant. Knowing that, once I edit make.conf, what do I need to do next to get stuff re-compiled etc? if you had looked at the emerge man page you'd have noticed the 'N' argument. Any other recommendation etc??? My recommendation is to not touch any USE flags that you don't understand. The defaults are usually perfectly fine unless you have a good reason to disable particular flags. I would also recommend that you go through and read all the portage documentation. Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. The -mmx and several of the others are there to keep conky from pulling in a bunch of stuff as well that it does not need Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it as a dependency of that program. USE flags only affect optional dependencies, such as when a program can be built with or without php support. You really should read the USE flag documentation before messing with them too much. Along with the flexibility it brings, Gentoo gives you a great deal of power to totally fsck your system by fiddling with things you don't understand. One would have thought that after destroying five systems in this way, you would have resorted to the documentation. Check /usr/portage/profiles/use.*desc for descriptions of all USE flags and 'emerge --info' to see which are in effect on your system. Finally, don't change to many at once, and keep track of what you have done. that way, if things do go wrong, you can retrace your steps and find the cause (and solution). -- Neil Bothwick Jimmy Hoffa is buried here -- X [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil and others: Thanks for the input, you are correct, I accidentally put a package specification into the original post rather than the appropriate use flag -- my goof The USE line that I want should look more like: USE=php session cli gd pear apache2 mysql ssl png jpeg gif This USE Specification comes from the WIKI article about the installation of Snort and BASE found at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_BASE_with_Apache,_Snort,_and_PostgreS QL With two slight changes 1. I use MySQL rather than postgreSQL 2. I am not using hardened sources or hardened php I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. My original thought was to simply change the use flags to those that I wanted, and emerge -e world, apparently, this is not correct? As far as portage documentation, I have not been able to find a wiki article or other document that indicates how to change from a system created by the installer disk to one that is personally optimized. If there is such a document, I will be most happy to read it, as it would really simplify things. I do understand that there is significant power in the USE flags, and after having destroyed 5 systems, I came to the group asking for help to avoid making a similar mistake again. The portage docs that I have seen so far (specifically those in the gentoo handbook), do not SEEM (that I have found) to cover this type of eventuality, but rather provide a general guide line for its use. Again, If I have missed the appropriate doc someplace, please let me know. To answer Raymonds question specifically, BASE is the web interface and reporting engine that I use for the SNORT IDS, and it is the reason that php and mysql and apache2 are in the list I will freely admit that my understanding of portage and the USE flags is somewhat limited, and that is part of the reason that I came to the group for help rather than just blindly plunging ahead as I did previously. I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am quite open to using it, if someone can please send me a link. Thank you all for your time and your help - -I greatly appreciate it TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:41 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. My original thought was to simply change the use flags to those that I wanted, and emerge -e world, apparently, this is not correct? Re-emerging everything is unnecessary, especially if you are only changing a few flags. emerge -uavDN world will re-emerge everything affected by your changed flags, and allow you to see what it is going to do before it starts. If you have any doubt as to what an emerge will do, run it with --verbose and either --pretend or --ask first. As far as portage documentation, I have not been able to find a wiki article or other document that indicates how to change from a system created by the installer disk to one that is personally optimized. Therein lies one of the problems with the installer. The manual installation requires you to gain some understanding of how Gentoo works in order to build a system. That understanding is also needed to administer the system. By using the installer, you bypass the initial learning curve which, paradoxically, can make things more difficult in the long run. I am going to suggest a course of action that I normally find totally pointless, re-install. If you build your system again without the installer, you will be able to configure it to suit your needs from scratch, and you will have a greater understanding of the system, making it easier to maintain. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the Death Star exploded around him. [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done an additional 5 or so installations by hand from the basic disk. I understand the processes there, I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case Thanks again TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done an additional 5 or so installations by hand from the basic disk. I understand the processes there, I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case Tim... I concur with Neil's assessment that you should just wipe the box and start afresh, the main reason being that you should be running hardened sources and USE=-* instead of trying to do a basic install. Security related boxes such as firewalls, routers, and IDS should be a slim as possible to eliminate potential for security holes and in all cases they should be running with the hardened profile. Just my $0.02. -Mike [Timothy A. Holmes] Mike and Neil -- Ok -- sounds good to me -- At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). This will allow me to get things working and evaluate the stability of the hardened sources in my production environment. Thanks a bunch for the input TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I was hoping to rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the rebuild till this summer when I have a bit more time -- I was hoping to be able to change the use flags, build a new kernel and be done with it, but that doesn't look to be the case It should be the case. it's not much different from doing a stage 3 install then changing USE flags etc. I've done that with no problems. What went wrong when you tried this before, or was it a case of changing too much at once so you couldn't find the source of the problem? However, Michael's point about starting afresh with a hardened setup is a good one. It sounds much safer for a security box. -- Neil Bothwick getting performance from an Amiga is like getting water from a sponge, getting performance from Windows is like getting blood from a stone - after banging my head against the stone several times I got some blood Author of Lightwave 3D [Timothy A. Holmes] Neil: the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The procedure that I used last time was: rebuild the kernel Set use to USE=-* Emerge -e world That procedure with the USE flags is what killed me. What I should have done -- it now appears was to set use to blank (or comment it out) and allow it to use the base flags from the profile. But trying to recompile from base with all use flags specifically excluded is what began to break stuff TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
-Original Message- From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:11 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be I am not in the least comfortable with running NON-hardened on a production box. :) ESPECIALLY for network-accessible devices. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Randy: That may be, however, I have seen far to many complaints about instability in the hardened systems to be comfortable using them in a production environment. Another user here in my area is working to change my mind, but at this point, unless something changes dramatically, hardened in my mind is a specialty subset for very isolated applications that are very very crash tolerant. The problem in my mind is that if the system is so unstable that it will not properly function with a major component like X, I am worried that it may prove unstable with other applications as well. It seems quite often that I see messages going past someone has had a problem with hardened and more often then not, these are fairly critical problems -- while it may be that hardened sources are fine, I have high doubts about them, and specifically their stability. I realize that this topic has the potential to very quickly become a flame fest, and I have no desire for this to happen, but at the same time, I cant risk a critical system on unstable sources either. I am open to the possibility of using them, BUT, for now it will be in parallel with sources that I KNOW work correctly. I cant risk our network to be part of an experiment. Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Ra -Original Message- From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:08 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am quite open to using it, if someone can please send me a link. Don't restrict yourself to wikis and web-based information. The best portage and emerge manuals are exactly that - the portage and emerge manuals. $ man 5 portage $ man 1 emerge $ man 5 make.conf Once you've thoroughly read and understood all three of those, come back here. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Ryan - - Thanks for the links - Is that info also accessable on the web some place, since I cant print from linux based systems, and especially cant under the live CD? I will be most interested to read it, but the manpage reader is horrible to try to work from TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
[Timothy A. Holmes] Randy: That may be, however, I have seen far to many complaints about instability in the hardened systems to be comfortable using them in a production environment. Another user here in my area is working to [Timothy A. Holmes] OOPS _- that should be RYAN -- SORRY -- I got fumble fingered TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Benchmarking Kernels
Hi Folks: As I am getting better at compiling kernels etc., I was wondering if there is any software out there that will allow me to benchmark a new kernel to see if it is faster / better than an older one that I am using - -it would be nice to be able to quantify any gains or losses so I know where I stand Thank you TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] New USE Flags, Emerge -e world -- Broken systems -- PLEASE HELP
Hi folks - I have a major problem brewing here im afraid: I have several systems that I had originally built with the Gentoo installer disk -- As such they have a very large group of use flags, and a fairly large genkernel. In wanting to lean them out and optimize them for running, went in, rebuilt the kernel, and apparently with a bad understanding of how portage and the USE flags interact, removed all the use flags, changed them to: USE=-* and ran emerge -e world. The processes have all failed, and now I have broken systems -- for example, eterm wont start at all, nor will it build on a re-install, firefox is messed up (the fonts look funny) and im starting to panic. Is there any way short of rebuilding these systems to get things working right again? Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Nightly emerge sync
-Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:09 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nightly emerge sync On Monday 15 May 2006 16:51, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Can someone please point me to a reference that will show me now to configure my vixie cron to do a nightly emerge sync? I know it can be done, however I have not yet come up with the necessary instructions http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml -- Bo Andresen Thanks Bo - -I appreciate it Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New USE Flags, Emerge -e world -- Broken systems -- PLEASE HELP
On 5/17/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks - I have a major problem brewing here im afraid: I have several systems that I had originally built with the Gentoo installer disk -- As such they have a very large group of use flags, and a fairly large genkernel. In wanting to lean them out and optimize them for running, went in, rebuilt the kernel, and apparently with a bad genkernel does not use USE flags, so, that's not related, probably. Someone will tell if I'm wrong. understanding of how portage and the USE flags interact, removed all the use flags, changed them to: USE=-* Heh, once I tried that... Its better leave it empty than putting this. You CAN put -*, but then you would have to create a fairly large packages.use in order to get a working system. That includes every package listed in emerge -pv world with an entry. Remove that option, start with minimal USE flags and reemerge world. You're lucky you didn't try emerge -e system after that. and ran emerge -e world. The processes have all failed, and now I have broken systems -- for example, eterm wont start at all, nor will it build on a re-install, firefox is messed up (the fonts look funny) and im starting to panic. Is there any way short of rebuilding these systems to get things working right again? You're lucky that you still have a working system after all. You even get a working portage, so, nothing to worry about. Fix your flags and reemerge world. -- [Timothy A. Holmes] Turns out all 5 systems are totally broke - I will be rebuilding all of them -- If anyone can suggest a good set of minimal use flags, I would be most thankful Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Nightly emerge sync
Can someone please point me to a reference that will show me now to configure my vixie cron to do a nightly emerge sync? I know it can be done, however I have not yet come up with the necessary instructions Thank you TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Nightly emerge sync
On 5/15/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone please point me to a reference that will show me now to configure my vixie cron to do a nightly emerge sync? I know it can be done, however I have not yet come up with the necessary instructions man cron man crontab man 5 crontab Good luck, -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil [Timothy A. Holmes] Thank you all - its working - THANKS!!! Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Benchmarking software for Kernel revisions
Hi folks: I just rebuilt one of my kernels that I had originally installed from the Installer disk. As expected, the kernel was HUGE, BLOATED and NASTY - I expected it going in, so not a huge problem, the system seems more peppy, but I would really like to find a package that would allow me to put numbers to that rather subjective assessment -- something I could run right before a kernel rebuild and then again after to see a difference in performance Thanks TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A couple projects on my laptop
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: FAR more problems than im willing to go through (the shortest set of instructions ive seen so far for automount is like 3 pages) + IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher = LOL. After this, I find quite odd you have to be root to mount a USB stick. I've never had to be root to do it. My /etc/fstab says: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable vfat noauto,async,user,exec 0 0 and I can mount it as a user just by clicking on its icon on Konqueror, for example. I think what you really need, however, is not automount but maybe HAL. Check in the wiki and/or docs for info, and don't run away in fear if you see some page of instruction... after all, you're using Gentoo! :) [Timothy A. Holmes] HI Thanks for the response -- I tried the additional stuff in /etc/fstab that you mentioned and when I hook up the usb drive and type /mount/sda1 /mnt/flash -- I get You must be root to mount I don't know whats up with it. I appreciate the suggestion though -- at this point, I guess its gonna take more troubleshooting time than I have to spend, so I will back burner it for a while till the workload eases up a bit -- I was hoping it was a simple setting change. I don't fear pages of instructions at all, I truly enjoy it, the problem is more the amount of time taken to execute what I want - -I have a number of really pressing problems right now that im working on, so I will fiddle with this later. TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A couple projects on my laptop
My /etc/fstab says: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable vfat noauto,async,user,exec 0 0 and I can mount it as a user just by clicking on its icon on Konqueror, for example. I think what you really need, however, is not automount but maybe HAL. Check in the wiki and/or docs for info, and don't run away in fear if you see some page of instruction... after all, you're using Gentoo! :) Search this mailing list over the last week or so. At least three different threads asked exactly the same Q re: mounting USB CFs. Consider HAL, ivman if you want automounting of CFs and eventually decide to bother setting it up (it's not that difficult). Another thread over the last two weeks or so, explained what entries you need in your xorg.conf to manage your screen. (Hint: check man xorg.conf for Option SuspendTime, or DPMS off , etc. Also, consider setting up your /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf if you want to do the same thing manually. Sorry, I can't help with the VPN set up. I recall reading about it in Gentoo Wiki if I'm not wrong. An equivalent to hyperterm is minicom. If you want an alternative to a telnet client (and you would rather use something more secure than telnet) then try ssh. HTH. -- Regards, Mick [Timothy A. Holmes] Hi Mick - thanks for the response - I checked into the stuff from that earlier thread, inserted the entries specified, and it did no good at all, im beginning to suspect that it is something to do with the gateway bios, as all my gateway gentoo machines do it, and none respond to the commands in xorg.conf. Thanks for the tip on minicom -- I will look into that one for sure -- I use SSH constantly, I need this connection only for switches and UPS serial port connections -- they are a last backup in case the Ethernet goes down TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A couple projects on my laptop
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Hi folks I have a couple of issues on my laptop that I would like to get wrapped up in the easiest method possible 1. Flashcards / memory sticks - Right now -- in order to mount my camera cards / thumb drives -- I have to become root -- its easy, but an annoyance - I have looked at automount and that is FAR more problems than im willing to go through (the shortest set of instructions ive seen so far for automount is like 3 pages), so if I could get it set up so that I can just do the mount commands as my user instead of having to su it would be nice Google for gentoo dbus or gentoo hal. You want three programs. Hal, D-Bus and ivman. Hal and gentoo are real easy, you basically emerge and have them start at boot. ivman is the app that listens for events and will carry out actions in a nice and easy xml file. There is a system wide config and a per-user config. You can tell it to launch totem/xine/mplayer if a DVD is inserted or mount your camera, usb key, etc. 2. Energy saver thingy - after about 10 minutes or so of inactivity, the screen shuts off under power saver -- I cant seem to find how to prevent this from happening, and could use some guidance Is it a BIOS thing? What kind of laptop? I have a new Toshiba laptop and Toshiba did away with a real BIOS for some custom one with very few settings. 3. I need a good VPN Client with easy gui - right now our school has a VPN set up on the cisco pix that works beautifully with a Microsoft VPN connection on a windows box, I need to be able to access this with my gentoo laptop as well I can't help here. I have to use a Nortel VPN client. Their Linux version just doesn't work. I paid $100 for it! My only option has been to use VMWare and vpn into work that way. I needed VMWare anyway for MS Dev stuff. I think I read somewhere that it is pretty easy to connect to ciso VPN with Linux. A quick eix search shows these ebuilds: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ eix -Ss -c cisco [N] dev-perl/Net-Telnet-Cisco (): Automate telnet sessions w/ routersswitches [N] net-analyzer/ipcad (): IP Cisco Accounting Daemon [N] net-analyzer/ndsad (): Cisco netflow probe from libpcap, ULOG, tee/divert sources. [N] net-misc/cisco-aironet-client-utils (): Cisco Aironet Client Utilities [N] net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des (): Cisco VPN Client (3DES) [N] net-misc/vpnc (): Free client for Cisco VPN routing software 4. I need to be able to use a USB to Serial dongle to talk to my switches -- the adapters that I have are Triplite ones and I do have the driver disk for windows -- along with this, I need a good communications program (equivalent to hyperterm ) to use with them to talk to my switches and to my UPS I never used one. However I just compiled my kernel and there seems to be a whole bunch. Run make menuconfig and take a look at: Device Drivers - USB support - USB Serial Converter support Thanks folks - any pointers and/or suggestions are gladly welcomed [Timothy A. Holmes] Hi Jim -- thanks for the response The card mounting stuff looks good, but is gonna require more time than I have right now to spend to set it up -- I will file it for future refrence. As far as the VPN Stuff - unfortunately, this is a cisco pix 501, and from what I can tell, it doesn't use the standard protocols (sadly) I tried the cisco client on another box and it just sat there and looked at me Thanks for the tip on the kernel stuff - I'll check into it when I do my next kernel build -- (something I avoid like the plague) -- TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
