[gentoo-user] Portage dead -- don't know how to proceed
/usr/portage itself is NFS mounted from a server and is fine. However, emerge --metadata and emerge -av1 glibc both report problems with some bdb stuff and doesn't work. This all happened after a failed glibc emerge. It detected that it was nptlonly, said it was removing /lib/tls, does with a preinst problem (on the rm as far as I can tell), and emerge has been hosed ever since. (After I rm -rf /var/cache/edb): % emerge --metadata /var/cache/edb doesn't exist, creating it... /var/cache/edb/dep doesn't exist, creating it... Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2002 clipped .. ** Skipping packages. Run 'fixpackages' or set it in FEATURES to fix the tbz2's in the packages directory. Note: This can take a very long time. skipping sync Updating Portage cache: Failed cache update: app-accessibility/SphinxTrain-0.9.1-r1 (38, 'Function not implemented -- process-private: unable to initialize environment lock: Function not implemented') Failed cache update: app-accessibility/at-poke-0.2.2 (38, 'Function not implemented -- process-private: unable to initialize environment lock: Function not implemented') and so on and on and on Here is emerge -av1 glibc: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies !!! Problem in sys-libs/glibc dependencies. !!! (38, 'Function not implemented -- process-private: unable to initialize environment lock: Function not implemented') bsddb._db -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: I just emerged KDE, changing from the monolytic packages to the split ones. Now windows redrawing is painfully (and cas-ca-ding) slow. The problem seems to be the same as in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-344889-highlight-kde+slow+redraw.html (but no answer there...) Any idea? First step to isolate this problem, I'd install a minimalist wm such as x11-wm/openbox and see which apps I can reproduce the problem with there, if any. Zac Not that easy. The problem is more visible when the desktop is filled with a Mozilla window and I change to this desktop. I would need a wm with virtual desktops and it had to be possible to change desktops via keyboard. I'm getting tired of KDE: each upgrade brings new problems. I would give it up if I could find a wm supporting multiple desktops (with the possibility of different backgrounds) and control via keyboard. I can't get KDE's goodies, like shadows and transparency, to work, anyway... Thanks for the reply. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Jorge Almeida wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: I just emerged KDE, changing from the monolytic packages to the split ones. Now windows redrawing is painfully (and cas-ca-ding) slow. The problem seems to be the same as in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-344889-highlight-kde+slow+redraw.html (but no answer there...) Any idea? First step to isolate this problem, I'd install a minimalist wm such as x11-wm/openbox and see which apps I can reproduce the problem with there, if any. Zac Not that easy. The problem is more visible when the desktop is filled with a Mozilla window and I change to this desktop. I would need a wm with virtual desktops and it had to be possible to change desktops via keyboard. I'm getting tired of KDE: each upgrade brings new problems. I would give it up if I could find a wm supporting multiple desktops (with the possibility of different backgrounds) and control via keyboard. I can't get KDE's goodies, like shadows and transparency, to work, anyway... Thanks for the reply. Jorge Openbox supports multiple desktops. You can replace the default kde window manager (kwin) with openbox: http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php?page=build.html#install-kde Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Openbox supports multiple desktops. You can replace the default kde window manager (kwin) with openbox: http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php?page=build.html#install-kde Zac Browsing the documentation, it seems it doesn't support setting the background. I'll have a look at third party applications... I really need commuting desktops with keys, and different backgrounds allow me to know where I am. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Openbox supports multiple desktops. You can replace the default kde window manager (kwin) with openbox: http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php?page=build.html#install-kde Zac Browsing the documentation, it seems it doesn't support setting the background. I'll have a look at third party applications... I really need commuting desktops with keys, and different backgrounds allow me to know where I am. Jorge I wasn't suggesting Openbox as a permanent solution. It's just a troubleshooting tool to help you isolate the problem. I use KDE 3.4.1 (split ebuilds) and haven't noticed any redraw problems like you're experiencing. Does the problem only affect kde apps? How about a qt app with no kde support? Gtk apps are fine? Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] LiveCD with rdiff-backup?
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:04:29 -0400, fire-eyes wrote: I am using rdiff-backup for my full system backups. Of course, it would be annoying if I had to use it to do a full restore. I would need a LiveCD with rdiff-backup on it. You wouldn't, unlress you needed to recover older versions of files. The current versions can be restored with cp, which I'm fairly sure the LiveCD includes. There's a thread on the forums on bulding a LiveCd that I found very useful. I use this to build the system I need and use squashfs to archive the backups. then I write the whole lot to a DVD (make sure you have the squashfs stuff enabled in the Live kernel). then I can boot from the DVD, mount a backup of a filesystem and copy the stuff back. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-244837-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-hal-start-0.html -- Neil Bothwick I locked my coathanger in my car; good thing I had a key. pgpu4jkPLNJlm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my world?
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:49:18 +, Jeff Cranmer wrote: Any suggestions about how to recover my original world file? emerge -p depclean Check the output for any programs you need (just the programs, not their dependencies) emerge -n program1 program2... rinse and repeat -- Neil Bothwick There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult -C.A.R. Hoare pgp8B09Iy7Jge.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Monday 18 July 2005 10:17, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: I just emerged KDE, changing from the monolytic packages to the split ones. Now windows redrawing is painfully (and cas-ca-ding) slow. The problem seems to be the same as in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-344889-highlight-kde+slow+redraw.ht ml (but no answer there...) Any idea? First step to isolate this problem, I'd install a minimalist wm such as x11-wm/openbox and see which apps I can reproduce the problem with there, if any. Zac Not that easy. The problem is more visible when the desktop is filled with a Mozilla window and I change to this desktop. I would need a wm with virtual desktops and it had to be possible to change desktops via keyboard. so, not kde, but mozilla is slow? Slow redreaw of gtk is known. Do you have enough ram? If you need swap, kde is dead slow. Is RenderAccel on? Is KDE prelinked? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Do you have enough ram? If you need swap, kde is dead slow. This one should be *really* obvious. If the hard drive is thrashing, you're out of ram :-). Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem access to Gentoo from XP over SSH - suggestions?
Thanks for the many suggestions... Lots of interesting ideas and different perspectives. Zac Medico wrote: Filezilla is an ftp client that supports file transfer over ssh: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ I'll give that a look - it's not really what I was after - while I suppose I wasn't really clear about my intentions, I really wanted FS-like access to enable me not only to edit text files, but also to use visual differencing tools etc. I'm suspecting that this wouldn't be supported using an ftp-like approach. For remote X you should use nx (emerge nxserver-freenx) or vnc (emerge tightvnc). That's new to me - looks very interesting... I'm guessing I'd need to get this working under cygwin for my XP client... Anything which improves the performance of remote X sessions would be very useful. To map a network drive, you should probably tunnel samba through ssh. Google for samba tunnel putty. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I hadn't thought of googling with putty as I'm using OpenSSH on both client and server - but the techniques look the same. Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem access to Gentoo from XP over SSH - suggestions?
Steve [Gentoo] wrote: Thanks for the many suggestions... Lots of interesting ideas and different perspectives. Zac Medico wrote: Filezilla is an ftp client that supports file transfer over ssh: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ I'll give that a look - it's not really what I was after - while I suppose I wasn't really clear about my intentions, I really wanted FS-like access to enable me not only to edit text files, but also to use visual differencing tools etc. I'm suspecting that this wouldn't be supported using an ftp-like approach. For remote X you should use nx (emerge nxserver-freenx) or vnc (emerge tightvnc). That's new to me - looks very interesting... I'm guessing I'd need to get this working under cygwin for my XP client... Anything which improves the performance of remote X sessions would be very useful. There are native win32 clients (no cygwin required) for both. The tightvnc client is gpl. The nx client that I know of is commercial software but it's a freely downloadable from nomachine.com. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, not kde, but mozilla is slow? Slow redreaw of gtk is known. Do you have enough ram? If you need swap, kde is dead slow. Is RenderAccel on? Is KDE prelinked? It's not a RAM problem (512M, and top shows it's not leaking somewhere). KDE is not prelinked. I don't know about RenderAccel (how can I tell?). Anyway, I didn't change anything except KDE. Slow rendering shows mainly with Mozilla and Thunderbird. With gvim too, I suppose (hard to tell). But Mozilla was fine before. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [tight/real]vnc and ctrl-alt-del
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:24 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: yes there is, I think its right click in vncviewer for the menu, or shiftF8 to get the menu. Going from memory but this should point you in the right direction. There's no Menu at all. The SHifts doesn't work either. BTW, this is both vnc and tightvnc. Both of them don't have this option. BillK On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:03 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I noticed that in the windows version of tightvnc, there is an option to send ctrl-alt-del to window boxes. In the linux version, there is not such capability. Or am I wrong? -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:02:56 up 1 day, 4:28, 8 users, load average: 1.80, 1.56, 1.37 -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 18:15:18 up 1 day, 1:22, 8 users, load average: 0.47, 0.36, 0.28 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Monday 18 July 2005 12:15, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so, not kde, but mozilla is slow? Slow redreaw of gtk is known. Do you have enough ram? If you need swap, kde is dead slow. Is RenderAccel on? Is KDE prelinked? It's not a RAM problem (512M, and top shows it's not leaking somewhere). KDE is not prelinked. I don't know about RenderAccel (how can I tell?). Anyway, I didn't change anything except KDE. Slow rendering shows mainly with Mozilla and Thunderbird. With gvim too, I suppose (hard to tell). But Mozilla was fine before. well 512 is most of the time enough, but not always ;) hm, if only gtk apps are slow, it is normal - gtk IS slow. Very slow. Search google for gtk and slow and you'll find a lot ;) RenderAccel is set in your xorg.conf - if you have nvidia. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [tight/real]vnc and ctrl-alt-del
My mistake, I am now in front of a system with net-misc/vnc (I had to revert from tightvnc which wasnt compatible with the viewer on a palm I was using) Its F8 on its own - one of the menu choices is send F8 of course! I think tightvnc was similar. BillK On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 18:15 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:24 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: yes there is, I think its right click in vncviewer for the menu, or shiftF8 to get the menu. Going from memory but this should point you in the right direction. There's no Menu at all. The SHifts doesn't work either. BTW, this is both vnc and tightvnc. Both of them don't have this option. BillK On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:03 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I noticed that in the windows version of tightvnc, there is an option to send ctrl-alt-del to window boxes. In the linux version, there is not such capability. Or am I wrong? -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:02:56 up 1 day, 4:28, 8 users, load average: 1.80, 1.56, 1.37 -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 18:15:18 up 1 day, 1:22, 8 users, load average: 0.47, 0.36, 0.28 -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [tight/real]vnc and ctrl-alt-del
No, Billk, you aren't mistaken! Ow Mun Heng, in the tightvnc client (version 1.3dev5) hit F8 to get the menu, which has Send CTRL-ALT-DEL among the other options. From the vncviewer man page: You can use F8 to display a pop-up utility menu. Press F8 twice to pass single F8 to the remote side. raf William Kenworthy wrote: My mistake, I am now in front of a system with net-misc/vnc (I had to revert from tightvnc which wasnt compatible with the viewer on a palm I was using) Its F8 on its own - one of the menu choices is send F8 of course! I think tightvnc was similar. BillK On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 18:15 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:24 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: yes there is, I think its right click in vncviewer for the menu, or shiftF8 to get the menu. Going from memory but this should point you in the right direction. There's no Menu at all. The SHifts doesn't work either. BTW, this is both vnc and tightvnc. Both of them don't have this option. BillK On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:03 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I noticed that in the windows version of tightvnc, there is an option to send ctrl-alt-del to window boxes. In the linux version, there is not such capability. Or am I wrong? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well 512 is most of the time enough, but not always ;) I know, but I checked top. hm, if only gtk apps are slow, it is normal - gtk IS slow. Very slow. But it wasn't noticeable before... It looks as if the several widgets were being shown _before_ the main window... Search google for gtk and slow and you'll find a lot ;) RenderAccel is set in your xorg.conf - if you have nvidia. Ati Radeon 7500. -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage dead -- don't know how to proceed
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 11:30:10PM -0700, George Garvey wrote: /usr/portage itself is NFS mounted from a server and is fine. However, emerge --metadata and emerge -av1 glibc both report problems with some bdb stuff and doesn't work. This all happened after a failed glibc emerge. It detected that it was nptlonly, said it was removing /lib/tls, does with a preinst problem (on the rm as far as I can tell), and emerge has been hosed ever since. Never mind. I restored /lib/tls from backup, which emerge deleted, rendering emerge unusable. It couldn't even install the newly compiled glibc (which I have since deleted: yuck ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Daily dumb question... chron.
Because I need my Gentoo server to perform periodic tasks on my behalf I new I needed some implementation of cron - and after a brief investigation I settled on fcron as I liked the idea that I could give flexible scheduling in order to allow the OS to delay processing in the event of heavy system load. I've written a couple of my own administration tasks (to be run as my own non-root user) and these work fine. I've noticed the directories /etc/cron.daily; /etc/cron.hourly; /etc/cron.monthly etc. and therein a bunch of non-user-specific administration tasks... For example, in ./etc/cron.daily I've logrotate.cron and rulesdujour - but none of these appear to have run in the last month. Are thse system tasks supposed to be fired automatically by fcron? What would be the easiest way to get all my periodic system administration tasks defined in these directories to be fired automatically? Did I make a sensible choice with fcron? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Resizing ext3
Any way to resize a ext3 partition ? I'm trying with parted: br ~ # parted /dev/hdb resize 1 Start? [32kB]? End? [80GB]? 70GB Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled. Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary. but ... i get this error... anyone knows what should i do ? Thanks, Bruno Gola -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Daily dumb question... chron.
Hi, On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:06:29 +0100 Steve [Gentoo] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed the directories /etc/cron.daily; /etc/cron.hourly; /etc/cron.monthly etc. and therein a bunch of non-user-specific administration tasks... For example, in ./etc/cron.daily I've logrotate.cron and rulesdujour - but none of these appear to have run in the last month. Are thse system tasks supposed to be fired automatically by fcron? What would be the easiest way to get all my periodic system administration tasks defined in these directories to be fired automatically? Did I make a sensible choice with fcron? Can't tell much about fcron (esp. if its config syntax is similar to my vixie-cron), but for me, vixie-cron installed a /etc/crontab that contains the following lines: 0 * * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly 1 3 * * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily 15 4 * * 6 rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.weekly 30 5 1 * * rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.monthly */10 * * * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons this does the job. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Daily dumb question... chron.
Are thse system tasks supposed to be fired automatically by fcron? You missed the message that flew by when emerging fcron... Fcron includes the /etc/cron.* directories but does not install cron jobs for them automatically, and it does not support /etc/crontab (as other crons do). You need to manually add them to the root crontab. Easiest way would be to: 1. su - (or login as root). 2. crontab -l root root.crontab (to get any existing cron entries for root). 3. vi root.crontab and add the following: # Clean the lastrun directories... 0 * * * * rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly 1 3 * * * rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily 15 4 * * 6 rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.weekly 30 5 1 * * rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.monthly # Now do the command to determine what tasks need to be executed # Only generate emails on errors... !nolog(true) */10 * * * * /usr/bin/test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons 4. crontab root.crontab (to make the changes take effect) This will install the appropriate cron jobs to have the /etc/cron.* scripts run. Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Daily dumb question... chron.
# Now do the command to determine what tasks need to be executed # Only generate emails on errors... !nolog(true) Oops, this nolog bit comes from my crontab and is not normally put in. I added it because I hated getting emails for regular runs. If you choose to include it, add !reset to the line after the run-crons line of the text I sent. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:46:23 +0100, David Morgan wrote: You could remove win32codecs from base/use.mask, try and use it and see if it works since it shouldn't break anything. But each time you did emerge sync it'd get written over. Profile changes should be made in /etc/portage/profiles, then they won't be overwritten when syncing. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 012: Window closed - Do not look inside pgp7U6QyTREEq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?
On 15:42 Mon 18 Jul , Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:46:23 +0100, David Morgan wrote:
You could remove win32codecs from base/use.mask, try and use it and see
if it works since it shouldn't break anything. But each time you did
emerge sync it'd get written over.
Profile changes should be made in /etc/portage/profiles, then they won't
be overwritten when syncing.
(I think you meant /etc/portage/profile)
I usually go for tempory fixes to see if something works before spending
time finding out the correct solution (I guess that's a result of me
being incredibly lazy, but it's also just easier when you're
investigating something).
I guessed that you might have to use /etc/portage/profile/use.unmask (by
analogy with package.{,un}mask, but apparently the correct thing to do
is to put -win32codecs in /etc/portage/profile/use.mask
Dave
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[gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgptfO9Lzdvth.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] USE flags...
Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you would be presented with many, many dependencies and USE flags. I would prefer to install less upfront and add on later as needed. Doing an `emerge -pv $packagename` then looking through the dependencies and their USE flags each time, to me, doesn't seem like the best method. I took a look at the list of USE flags at http://www.gentoo-portage.com/USE and disabling dozens of them in /etc/make.conf doesn't seem like a great method either. I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any suggestions? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well 512 is most of the time enough, but not always ;) I know, but I checked top. hm, if only gtk apps are slow, it is normal - gtk IS slow. Very slow. But it wasn't noticeable before... It looks as if the several widgets were being shown _before_ the main window... Search google for gtk and slow and you'll find a lot ;) RenderAccel is set in your xorg.conf - if you have nvidia. Ati Radeon 7500. Hi, Think i can't of great help here, but at least twice when i had slow graphical performance solved it by re-emerging some packages and xorg-x11 once (i assume you have run 'revdep-rebuild' ;) As it seems your main DM is KDE it's likely that there may be issues with GTK-apps, as their libs/deps also get loaded when mozilla/etc is run. Here's some info: 1.mozilla dependencies: ...www-client/mozilla-1.7.8: crypt? !moznomail? =app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.1 app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.1 postgres? =dev-db/postgresql-7.2.0 dev-db/postgresql-8.0.1-r4 =dev-libs/glib-2.2.0dev-libs/glib-2.6.4 =dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.0 dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.5 =media-libs/fontconfig-2.1 media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3 =media-libs/jpeg-6b media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 =media-libs/libmng-1.0.0 media-libs/libmng-1.0.8-r1 =media-libs/libpng-1.2.1 media-libs/libpng-1.2.8 =sys-apps/portage-2.0.36 sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22-r1 =sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4sys-libs/zlib-1.2.2-r1 =www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.22 www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.32 =www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.28 www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.32 =x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.0x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.7 =x11-libs/pango-1.2.1 x11-libs/pango-1.8.1 app-arch/unzip app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2 app-arch/zip app-arch/zip-2.3-r4 dev-lang/perldev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r5 dev-libs/expat dev-libs/expat-1.95.8 dev-util/pkgconfig dev-util/pkgconfig-0.17.2-r1 !bootstrap? sys-devel/patch sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 !moznoxft? virtual/xft x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 ~sys-devel/autoconf-2.13 sys-devel/autoconf-2.13 ... 2.GTK+ dependencies: ...x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.7: =dev-libs/atk-1.0.1 dev-libs/atk-1.9.1 =dev-libs/glib-2.6 dev-libs/glib-2.6.4 =dev-util/pkgconfig-0.12.0 dev-util/pkgconfig-0.17.2-r1 jpeg? =media-libs/jpeg-6b-r2 media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 =media-libs/libpng-1.2.1 media-libs/libpng-1.2.8 =sys-devel/automake-1.7.9 sys-devel/automake-1.9.5 =x11-libs/pango-1.8 x11-libs/pango-1.8.1 sys-devel/autoconf sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r6 !bootstrap? sys-devel/patch sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 x11-misc/shared-mime-info x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.16 ... IMHO you could first try emerging: glibgtk+ and probably in second place: xorg-x11. There are also many image-manupulation libraries: jpeg,png,mng HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a -uD it will be upgraded. You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;) []'s Mauro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
OK, I'm flummoxed. Have I just gotten lucky all these years? I attempted to emerge a new glibc this morning and I cannot because it completely fills my 2.7GB /var partition in the process and I end with a 'no space on device' message! Obviously the emerge doesn't finish and I'm left to clean up and ponder the meaning of such things. Prior to starting the emerge the partition is about 30% full so it appears that the build takes something like 2GB? Can this really be true? What can I do to get around this? Should this build really take this much space or is there possibly a bug here somewhere? dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv glibc These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5 [2.3.4.20041102-r1] -build -debug -erandom -hardened (-multilib) +nls +nptl +nptlonly -pic (-selinux) -userlocales 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB dragonfly ~ # There's probably a config option for where this work is done somewhere else. What would I change to temporarily move the elsewhere if indeed there is no bug. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any suggestions? Your problem is going to be the incremental enabling thing you'd like to do. If you add a new USE flag later on, you need to emerge with the newuse flag which will result in a larger emerge than what you expect. For example, if you build your system then add the alsa use flag and emerge with newuse, you'll basically be rebuilding X, kde and/or gnome, etc. A huge task for such a simple flag addition. Your best bet is to determine the use flags that you intend on using in the final system and be selective about what you emerge to keep the system size under control. Unless, of course, you don't mind recompiling big parts of the system for use case changes... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? Hi, At least two packages depend on libgsf so when one wants to ungrade it wants version 1.10.0 while the other depends on: =libgsf-1.12.0, but that's only one scenario. Try emerge -DNu world -ptv (see -t | --tree option). Maybe the newest libgsf is 1.12.0 while some app depends only on a lower version: 1.10.0 also possible. Check w/o -D|--deep option for second case. HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:36:32 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv glibc These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5 [2.3.4.20041102-r1] -build -debug -erandom -hardened (-multilib) +nls +nptl +nptlonly -pic (-selinux) -userlocales 0 kB Try setting userlocales and putting the locales you want in /etc/locales.build. that should reduce the space requirements quite a bit. There's probably a config option for where this work is done somewhere else. What would I change to temporarily move the elsewhere if indeed there is no bug. PORTAGE_TMPDIR determines where portage uses for temporary storage. -- Neil Bothwick If only the good die young then what does that say about senior citizens? pgpYtzpAvvb1w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On July 18, 2005 09:34 am, Mauro Faccenda wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a -uD it will be upgraded. You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;) looks like it's the case here except that I like my -uDNp as system became bit more stable since I started using D and every time I upgrade it picks up everything I need and I didn't have to ask it twice :) Oh well, maybe -D is a minor drawback and I can survive occasional rebuild of libgsf :) Thanks a lot for the tip.. it all makes sense now. At least I know now what's going on. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpuB0LXueUyR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you would be presented with many, many dependencies and USE flags. I would prefer to install less upfront and add on later as needed. Doing an `emerge -pv $packagename` then looking through the dependencies and their USE flags each time, to me, doesn't seem like the best method. I took a look at the list of USE flags at http://www.gentoo-portage.com/USE and disabling dozens of them in /etc/make.conf doesn't seem like a great method either. I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any suggestions? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. Hi, Recently there was such discussion, only about the default USE-flags (in current profile). By memory the solution was: -* only desired USE-flags here, ex. alsa crypt readline ... in '/etc/make.conf' -* disables quite all (only all optional w/o the required ones) and turns ON the USE-flags following it. PS: watch out there are 2-3 flags which are absolutely required for a sane system, check ML-archive (readline is one). HTH. Rumen Hello, This looks like what I am leaning towards. Now I just have to find out what those few critical flags are ;o} Thanks all! -- Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
On 7/18/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:36:32 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv glibc These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5 [2.3.4.20041102-r1] -build -debug -erandom -hardened (-multilib) +nls +nptl +nptlonly -pic (-selinux) -userlocales 0 kB Try setting userlocales and putting the locales you want in /etc/locales.build. that should reduce the space requirements quite a bit. Thanks, I'll check the out. There's probably a config option for where this work is done somewhere else. What would I change to temporarily move the elsewhere if indeed there is no bug. PORTAGE_TMPDIR determines where portage uses for temporary storage. I set this in make.conf, correct? Seems logical but man emerge and man portage don't seem to mention this variable. Thanks very much, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
Good afternoon all, A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. Thanks, John -- Contrary to the lie machine, the world is not safer. pgpfPfnFThvIN.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] DVD-cd usage
Hello, I have a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2412 in my portable. #lshw reveals: *-cdrom description: DVD reader product: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412 vendor: Toshiba physical id: 0 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] logical name: /dev/hdc version: 1015 serial: Z34A308331 capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio cd-r cd-rw dvd K3b gives me this error message: Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: only root can mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /mnt/cdrom /etc/fstab has this entry: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 # ls -alg /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 reveals lr-xr-xr-x 1 root 33 Dec 31 1969 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 - ../ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd /etc/group has this entry: cdrom::19:root,james Should I pass parameters to the device at boot time via /etc/conf.d/hdparm file? The cdrom works to play music and I can manually mount CDs with # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom to copy file off the cd. So why the error message? What did I miss? Better Ideas on cdrom configuration are most welcome. As I should be able to burn CDs with this device and watch DVD movies? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
John J. Foster wrote: OK, this happens all the time. I search, can't find what I want, post a question, search again, and there it is. This is not the thread I was talking about, but it was right in front of me on the Gentoo Wiki. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speeding_up_portage_with_tmpfs Does anyone have any tips on these tips? I sincerely doubt that this technique is worth the trouble because the Linux virtual memory system will automatically cache frequently accessed files in ram. The tmpfs will eliminate filesystem overhead and will certainly result in a reduction of total build time. However, I'd go with Bruno's recommendation and just put -pipe in the cflags. For builds that work well in parallel, which most large builds do, distcc is a great way to speed things up. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge libdvdcss - ACCESS DENIED Error
I've been getting this starting last week Thursday (?). Any ideas?
--Kurt
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def))
Writing index file refman.idx
No file refman.aux.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ts1cmr.fd)kpathsea: Running mktextfm
ecrm1440
ACCESS DENIED access_wr: /usr/share/texmf/fonts
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;
nonstopmode; input ecrm1440
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea: Running mktexmf ecrm1440
ACCESS DENIED access_wr: /usr/share/texmf/fonts
ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/mf12893.tmp
/usr/bin/mktexmf: line 92: mf12893.tmp: Permission denied
chmod: cannot access `mf12893.tmp': No such file or directory
ACCESS DENIED unlink:/var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf
rm: cannot remove `ecrm1440.mf': Permission denied
mv: cannot stat `mf12893.tmp': No such file or directory
mktexmf: /var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf: successfully
generated.
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/mktexupd:
/var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf not a file.
warning: kpathsea: mktexpk output
`/var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf' instead of a filename.
! I can't find file `ecrm1440'.
* ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ecrm1440
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ecrm1440
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: ecrm1440.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode;
input ecrm1440' failed to make ecrm1440.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
! Font T1/cmr/m/n/14.4=ecrm1440 at 14.4pt not loadable: Metric (TFM)
file not f
ound.
to be read again
relax
l.18 {\Large
libdvdcss Reference Manual\\[1ex]\large 1.2.5 }\\
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
Mark Knecht wrote: PORTAGE_TMPDIR determines where portage uses for temporary storage. I set this in make.conf, correct? Seems logical but man emerge and man portage don't seem to mention this variable. That's odd, it's not in portage(5) either. It is documented in make.conf.example though. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: I have a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2412 in my portable. #lshw reveals: *-cdrom description: DVD reader product: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412 vendor: Toshiba capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio cd-r cd-rw dvd /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,ro 0 0 OK this got rid of the error in K3b. You should be able to do all you can do with your drive, in your case, I believe you can read cds and read dvds, but as far as I know, you can't burn cds, its a dvd drive, not a cdrw or a combo. (at least considering the name, I may be wrong) Well, the last line from 'lshw' says it is a cd-rw That implies I should be able to write to the CD? The page:http://www.toshiba-europe.com/storage/ Index.asp?page=PCInav=ISH_PRSmodel=SDR2412 tells me the drive has CD rw capabilities. Maybe I missed the correct driver in the kernel? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
On 7/18/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:05:22 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: PORTAGE_TMPDIR determines where portage uses for temporary storage. I set this in make.conf, correct? Correct Seems logical but man emerge and man portage don't seem to mention this variable. man make.conf mentions it, as does /etc/make.conf.example Great. Thanks. Looks like I'll have to give it a try. Even turning on userlocales it still failed on to build for device space: dragonfly glibc-2.3.5 # emerge -pv glibc These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5 -build -debug -erandom -hardened (-multilib) +nls +nptl +nptlonly -pic (-selinux) +userlocales* 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB dragonfly glibc-2.3.5 # dragonfly ~ # cat /etc/locales.build # This file names the list of locales to be built when glibc is installed. # The format is locale/charmap, where locale is a locale from the # /usr/share/i18n/locales directory, and charmap is name of one of the files # in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/. All blank lines and lines starting with # are # ignored. Here is an example: # en_US/ISO-8859-1 en_US/ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8/UTF-8 dragonfly ~ # Looks like that wasn't enough space reduction. I don't think every machine of mine has it's own /var partition so probably there was always enough space under /. I created /var on this machine since it's a MythTV server which has saved me because when MythTV storage runs out MythTV fills the log file with millions of the same message. Another solution I tried and which did work was to create a directory on my root partition and do a mount --bind while doing the glibc emerge. The emerge finished cleanly and then I dismounted the temp storage to get back to normal. Multiple solutions I think. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
Zac Medico wrote: John J. Foster wrote: OK, this happens all the time. I search, can't find what I want, post a question, search again, and there it is. This is not the thread I was talking about, but it was right in front of me on the Gentoo Wiki. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speeding_up_portage_with_tmpfs Does anyone have any tips on these tips? I sincerely doubt that this technique is worth the trouble because the Linux virtual memory system will automatically cache frequently accessed files in ram. The tmpfs will eliminate filesystem overhead and will certainly result in a reduction of total build time. However, I'd go with Bruno's recommendation and just put -pipe in the cflags. For builds that work well in parallel, which most large builds do, distcc is a great way to speed things up. Zac I'm a bit dubious about this well...unless you have a huge amount of memory (as in, more than 2G). But even then, if you have sufficient RAM, most of the source files should still be in memory as a result of the extraction of the source archive before compilation. And if buffers get flushed/recycled as a result of the compilation, that generally means that the compiler needed a large amount of memory, and giving the compiler your RAM is a much better choice, as otherwise swap has to be used, and that will *kill* your compilation time! That isn't to say that I don't think some smart and simple things beyond -pipe can speed up builds. I believe /var should be it's own filesystem, about 5G in size, and positioned just before /usr if you have one, or just after / if not. The filesystem should be either XFS (caches files in memory very agressively, and in fact doesn't even update the disk for short-lived temporary files) or reiserfs v3 (creates and deletes files very very quickly). However, I can pretty much guarantee that nothing short of a 16-processor, 16GB system (or a distcc farm, as Colin suggested) will allow you to emerge -Dv --emptytree kde-meta in 15 minutes!!! There is simply no getting around the CPU and memory bandwidth required for compiling! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:05:22 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: PORTAGE_TMPDIR determines where portage uses for temporary storage. I set this in make.conf, correct? Correct Seems logical but man emerge and man portage don't seem to mention this variable. man make.conf mentions it, as does /etc/make.conf.example -- Neil Bothwick Fascinating, said Spock, watching Kirk's lousy acting. pgpLJYqru5m62.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
Stuart Howard schreef: thx for the response I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a hangover from my initial genkernel instalation. Well, there is a compromise solution: /etc/portage/profile/package.provided I don't have a clue what I tried to install that wanted alsa-driver, but I added media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.6a (don't actually have to have a version, afaik, you can just put the package name) to the above-mentioned file, and it never bothered me again. Basically, you're telling Portage that you've handled this-- the package is installed, just not *by* Portage, so it should just trust you. And of course you have installed the package-- when you compiled the kernel, so it's not even like you're lying or anything. The upside of this should be that you can uninstall the alsa-driver package (if it is installed), or do an emerge (-p) --depclean to get rid of it, or remove it from your world file, and no program that depends on it should be disturbed (because you've informed Portage that the equivalent data is available, and Portage trusts you :-) )-- and no package that wants to depend on it in the future should try to install it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm: failed to stop /dev/md1
Jarry wrote: Hm, I've noticed on console-screen some strange message when doing shutdown: mdamd: failed to stop /dev/md1 array, device or resource busy [!!] /dev/md1 is mounted as root partition, apart from that I have 7 more /dev/md partitions, all are stopped without any message. Right before shutdown -h now I tried to see if there are some files open, but lsof /dev/md1 showed nothing... I can not find any other relevant messages, syslog-ng is stopped before this error, and shutdown continues as usuall. Any ideas? Yep, get used to it! ;- The problem is that there are still at least two programs running at shutdown time...the shutdown command and init. Since their current working directory is somewhere on the root filesystem, root cannot be unmounted...the best that can happen is that root gets remounted read-only. And since your root filesystem cannot be unmounted, /dev/md1 will continue to be busy. It is a completely harmless message though. I get something similar about shuting down LVM... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Howto speed up compilations
On Monday 18 July 2005 19:07, John J. Foster wrote: Good afternoon all, A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. IIRC OO takes more than 3GB of space to compile. Gcc itself is quite RAM demanding... I tkink it is feasible for smaller programs. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.11-gentoo-r11, Compiled #1 Thu Jun 23 05:26:18 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4308.99 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Routing advice requested
George Garvey wrote: I just installed a T1 to a new ISP using a Sangoma CSU/DSU card. I thought I could use aliased IPs on existing gigE NICS on our LAN to set up the hosts that need an internet routable presence. Maybe that can be done, but not by me. I don't understand enough. I can get it to work on the system with the T1. But not on another computer over the LAN. On the system with the T1, I have a gigE to the LAN, and one of the ISP's IPs for asterisk (as an alias to the T1). That works okay. It worked okay with the ISP's IP as an alias to eth0, too. Edited output from ifconfig: (this is the gigE NIC connected to a switch for our LAN) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:07:E9:19:F3:F5 inet addr:192.168.1.17 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 (this is the T1. with the internet IP as an alias) w1g1 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1532 Metric:1 w1g1ppp Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:209.101.232.82 P-t-P:209.101.232.81 Mask:255.255.255.252 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 w1g1ppp:0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:216.132.251.226 P-t-P:216.132.251.226 Mask:255.255.255.224 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 (this is the routing table [route -n]) Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 216.132.251.227 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth0 209.101.232.80 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 00 w1g1ppp 216.132.251.224 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.224 U 0 00 w1g1ppp 192.168.2.0 192.168.1.12255.255.255.0 UG0 00 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 209.101.232.81 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 w1g1ppp The problem I'm having is with an alias on another computer that needs to be on the internet. It is the IP 216.132.251.227. Traffic internal to our LAN is routed to the computer that has that alias (192.168.1.6). But, traffic coming from the internet gets to 209.101.232.82 and stops according to traceroute. I'm too ignorant to understand why the host route doesn't work for packets coming from the T1 (from the internet), and get sent to the computer that handles that IP. This is the latest in a series of attempts. I've also tried putting the 216.132.251.224 network on the LAN. I've tried using the 216.132.251.227's LAN address (192.168.1.6) as a gateway for the host route. I've tried removing the 216.132.251.224 network route entirely, and just having host routes. What I was hoping to do was have one computer (192.168.1.17) connected to the ISP with a T1, and serve as a router for the ISP's IPs. That would also be connected to the internet with one of the ISP's IPs for use by asterisk (216.132.251.226). This seems to be working okay. I wanted another computer (192.168.1.6) to have an aliased ISP IP (216.132.251.227) that would let that computer also have an internet routable address. This is what I don't seem to be able to do. The computer with the T1 doesn't seem to route packets from the internet to the other computer over our LAN. It does for packets originating from our LAN. But not for packets from the internet. I know my error is going to be obvious to everyone who actually understands this stuff ;) I hope I've given the info to make things clear. I can set up a small Fast enet switch for the ISP's network, I guess. But I was hoping not to need to do that, and add more NICs to the computers that eventually need to be on the internet. But maybe that is what I need to do. Any and all advice (including things to read to decrease my ignorance) appreciated. First, a little terminology hygiene - IP aliasing refers having multiple addresses on a single physical interface, masquerading is the Linux terminology for Network Address Translation, which is what I think you want. Look at your routing table. 216.132.251.224/27 is being routed back out over the interface it is coming in on, w1g1ppp. You are only able to access 216.132.251.227 from the internet because it is located on the same physical interface that is doing your routing. My advice is to purchase another ethernet card, so you can physically separate the 216.132.251.224/27 and 192.168.1.0/24 networks. If asterisk has to exist on the router, then bind it to the 209.101.232.82 address. You'll also need to set up the iptables rules for NAT'ing your 192.168.1.0/24 network. Best, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Mauro Faccenda wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a -uD it will be upgraded. You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;) I wouldn't throw away -uDNp just because of this. On my system there are only two packages that depend on libgsf: gnumeric =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.10* librsvg =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.6 So librsvg can survive with an libgsf version as old as 1.6. My solution has been adding these lines to /etc/portage/package.mask: =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1 Ofcourse I could also use =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0, but I prefer to be notified if there is a new version available. -- T.G. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Big data Cluster
I just found this one: http://www.cuddletech.com/articles/iscsi/ So we can make a Linux box an iSCSI target, freaking sweet. Now we can put the clustered initiators in the front with some targets behind. s--- yea! /djb James wrote: David Busby busby at edoceo.com writes: I'm looking for reccomendations for storage clustering. I'd like to network together some Gentoo boxes which internally are SCSI+RAID5 and then be able to store data on these multiple boxes as though they are one big filesystem. Similar to what Isilon does but with Gentoo. I've been reading the web sites about the stuff in /usr/portage/sys-fs/ but I cannot tell which package is going to give me the right stuff. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Well, I've been collection information as I have a 'large' need for remote video surveillance. Here are the general approaches I've seen related to clustering and large data storage needs, from a cost-effective point of view: OPenmosix has some beta offerings that run on 2.6 based servers. From the Linux Journal, May 2005 there is an article Building a Bioinformatics Supercomputering Cluster that may be of interest. Also from the Linux Journal, june 2005 it talks about ATA over Ethernet: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8201 I'd be interested in any other clustering or 'high availability' technologies you find for Gentoo. HTH, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
Oh, I see... Well, since you have it builtin and everything is working, maybe its dependent on other app, do you have alsa-utils or anything that could pull alsa-drivers? If you have an old installation and (like me) don't remember exactly the steps for the initial configuration (I used alsa-driver, builtin, then removed it lots of times, recompiled the kernel lots, test purposes) then it can be a leftover from a previous config. Now, to determine if you can or can't remove it its up to you, you can always remove it and emerge it again if any problem appear. And if everything fails, you can always remove it from the kernel and emerge alsa-driver :) On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thx for the response I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a hangover from my initial genkernel instalation. I would like to remove this package from my system simply because I think I dont need it, this being the bit I am not sure about. I am afraid that there are two things on linux that I have never got on well with, sound and optical drives. :) stu On 7/18/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to use alsa-driver, you must not have alsa compiled in the kernel, I dunno exactly how you got this error using alsa already if everything was working before (unless you changed any settings on your kernel config). Enable only the audio support, compile modules for your sound-cards and let alsa-driver do the rest. On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv world was :- checking for built-in ALSA... yes configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error. I checked the changelog and this package media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is trying to install it even though I do not require it. Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is right and that I will be safe to remove the package. Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am about to kill my system :) in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice . thanks stu -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
cdr and cdrw? On 7/18/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: Ok, you're right, it really does burn cds. Well googling produces lots of complaints about trouble. But it looks mostly like old windows stuff... So, you're still not able to burn them? Try erasing an RW or writting an RW (so you don't spent cds). You should be able to do that with k3b, unless you already have mounted the cd (the erase and burn operations don't need the drive mounted) but I suppose that would echo an error. I'm using a brand new rw cd. I tried copying 2 .wav files to the cd. Here's the messages echoed to the K3b screen: Using cdrecored 2.1 Starting dao writing at 24x speed... Medium or burner do not support writing at 24x speed Switching down burn speed to 4x Starting in 2 seconds Starting in 1 second Writing canceled. by James after 40 minutes Removing buffer files Unlocking drive... Could not unlock CD drive. You don't need anything special on your kernel to burn cds. At least I have nothing special on mine. K3b does it all for me. OK, Maybe my use parameters are missing something? emerge -Nvp k3b reveals ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24 +arts -debug +dvdr +encode +flac +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 0 kB ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you Hi, regarding kde, you might want to try the split ebuilds if you haven't heard of them before: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml About the USE flags, sorry i have no better sane solution to your problem than to disable all at the beginning and then incrementally enabling more when you need them... Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On July 18, 2005 11:23 am, Tero Grundström wrote: This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a -uD it will be upgraded. You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;) I wouldn't throw away -uDNp just because of this. On my system there are only two packages that depend on libgsf: gnumeric =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.10* librsvg =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.6 So librsvg can survive with an libgsf version as old as 1.6. My solution has been adding these lines to /etc/portage/package.mask: =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1 I would lean towards abovementioned solution as it is 1) gentoo-way :) 2) is not destructive and if something requires higher version of libgsf it'll complain about masked package and I can deal with it then. Thanks for usefull tip... Live and learn as they say :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpUV2E7q0zjk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging gentoo-kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r31
Thomas Drueke schreef: Hi, I want to emerge gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r31 but it has been deleted from the rsync repository. Is there a way to get the corresponding ebuild-file back to get it emerged ? BR Thomas Go to www.gentoo.org, click the view our CVS link on the sidebar, scroll down to the sys-kernel folder, go to the gentoo-sources folder, right-click the link to your preferred ebuild, and Save Link As to your Overlay folder, from which you can then digest and emerge it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
On 13:07 Mon 18 Jul , John J. Foster wrote: Good afternoon all, A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. Thanks, John There was a thread about ways of speeding up compilation on gentoo-dev (including what you mentioned) a while ago. Good look compiling OOo with $PORTAGE_TMPDIR mounted in ram though ;) Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
thx for the response I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a hangover from my initial genkernel instalation. I would like to remove this package from my system simply because I think I dont need it, this being the bit I am not sure about. I am afraid that there are two things on linux that I have never got on well with, sound and optical drives. :) stu On 7/18/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to use alsa-driver, you must not have alsa compiled in the kernel, I dunno exactly how you got this error using alsa already if everything was working before (unless you changed any settings on your kernel config). Enable only the audio support, compile modules for your sound-cards and let alsa-driver do the rest. On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv world was :- checking for built-in ALSA... yes configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error. I checked the changelog and this package media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is trying to install it even though I do not require it. Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is right and that I will be safe to remove the package. Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am about to kill my system :) in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice . thanks stu -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
Ok, you're right, it really does burn cds. So, you're still not able to burn them? Try erasing an RW or writting an RW (so you don't spent cds). You should be able to do that with k3b, unless you already have mounted the cd (the erase and burn operations don't need the drive mounted) but I suppose that would echo an error. You don't need anything special on your kernel to burn cds. At least I have nothing special on mine. K3b does it all for me. On 7/18/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: I have a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2412 in my portable. #lshw reveals: *-cdrom description: DVD reader product: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412 vendor: Toshiba capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio cd-r cd-rw dvd /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,ro 0 0 OK this got rid of the error in K3b. You should be able to do all you can do with your drive, in your case, I believe you can read cds and read dvds, but as far as I know, you can't burn cds, its a dvd drive, not a cdrw or a combo. (at least considering the name, I may be wrong) Well, the last line from 'lshw' says it is a cd-rw That implies I should be able to write to the CD? The page:http://www.toshiba-europe.com/storage/ Index.asp?page=PCInav=ISH_PRSmodel=SDR2412 tells me the drive has CD rw capabilities. Maybe I missed the correct driver in the kernel? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Jorge Almeida wrote: But it wasn't noticeable before... It looks as if the several widgets were being shown _before_ the main window... So, if I understand you correctly, some mozilla controls get drawn long before the titlebar? Is that right? If so, possibly an error with themes or alpha blending... Could you post the output xdpyinfo...I have a feeling the answer is going to be in there. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge libdvdcss - ACCESS DENIED Error
Michael W. Holdeman wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98854 Thx. I think I was able to work around it. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3
Bruno Gola wrote: Any way to resize a ext3 partition ? I'm trying with parted: I guess you'll have to do it manually with resize2fs and fdisk. Just read the man page carefully, and think of it as a 2 or 3-step process: Growing: 1. use fdisk to grow the partition first. 2. use resize2fs to grow the filesystem. Shrinking: 1. use resize2fs to shink the filesystem to a point well below (at least 10% below) the size you want for the partition. 2. use fdisk to resize the partition. 3. use resize2fs to grow the filesystem to fill the partitition. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 02:40:18PM -0400, Colin wrote: Plus, you can charge people if they want to come over and rent your computing power. (Virginia Tech does that with their System X, 1,100 dual-2.3GHz-processor XServe G5's.) :-) As I'm a little short of this total right now, I think I'll stick with the -pipe option for now ;-) John -- Contrary to the lie machine, the world is not safer. pgpplUmibjrZX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:14:41 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote: A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. I am not sure if this will give a tremendous speedup. Granted, the source files won't need to be read from disk, which is an advantage, however, the file reading time should be very small compared to the time it takes for the compiler to translate the source code into machine code. Also, there's the ammount of memory you will lose, memory that could be used by the compiler. In some cases, gcc can eat very big chunks of memory. Not to mention the OOo ebuild needing around 3GB of space in TMPDIR, so this approach would only result in the emerge failing quicker. Not if you've got a machine with more than 3 GB of memory. A dual-proc Power Mac G5 can handle up to 8 GB of physical RAM. If you did this trick on one of those, you might see some serious improvement! But with most PC's being limited (by the x86 and motherboard designs) to 2 GB of physical RAM, it wouldn't work with large apps. A good suggestion would be to grab some old computers, Gentoo-ize them, network them over 100BaseTX or Gigabit and make a little distcc farm. Plus, you can charge people if they want to come over and rent your computing power. (Virginia Tech does that with their System X, 1,100 dual-2.3GHz-processor XServe G5's.) :-) -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Big data Cluster
David Busby busby at edoceo.com writes: I'm looking for reccomendations for storage clustering. I'd like to network together some Gentoo boxes which internally are SCSI+RAID5 and then be able to store data on these multiple boxes as though they are one big filesystem. Similar to what Isilon does but with Gentoo. I've been reading the web sites about the stuff in /usr/portage/sys-fs/ but I cannot tell which package is going to give me the right stuff. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Well, I've been collection information as I have a 'large' need for remote video surveillance. Here are the general approaches I've seen related to clustering and large data storage needs, from a cost-effective point of view: OPenmosix has some beta offerings that run on 2.6 based servers. From the Linux Journal, May 2005 there is an article Building a Bioinformatics Supercomputering Cluster that may be of interest. Also from the Linux Journal, june 2005 it talks about ATA over Ethernet: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8201 I'd be interested in any other clustering or 'high availability' technologies you find for Gentoo. HTH, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On July 18, 2005 12:21 pm, Zac Medico wrote: mkdir /etc/portage echo gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 /etc/portage/package.mask that would actually produce negative effects on gnumeric so I'd rather do as other post (by Tero) suggests: mask higher version as no package is requiring it anyway. But thanks for stepping in the discussion :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpOcl2U676F3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
In order to use alsa-driver, you must not have alsa compiled in the kernel, I dunno exactly how you got this error using alsa already if everything was working before (unless you changed any settings on your kernel config). Enable only the audio support, compile modules for your sound-cards and let alsa-driver do the rest. On 7/18/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv world was :- checking for built-in ALSA... yes configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error. I checked the changelog and this package media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is trying to install it even though I do not require it. Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is right and that I will be safe to remove the package. Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am about to kill my system :) in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice . thanks stu -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
Tero Grundström wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? There's a portage bug that fits that description: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13632. When I encounter this I simply package mask the lower versions. mkdir /etc/portage echo gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 /etc/portage/package.mask That is not the correct way as this bug is caused by packages not functioning correctly with *newer* versions. In this case gnumeric doesn't like libgsf versions above 1.10. If you think gnumeric does work well with the newest version of libgsf and that the package maintainer is setting wrongly the dependency version, please file a bug. Okay, my mistake. Actually, now that you mention it, it turns out that I edited the ebuild myself to have RDEPEND==gnome-extra/libgsf-1.10 in my overlay. I'm not sure whether or not it causes negative consequences but since I rarely (if ever) use gnumeric, I'm not presently concerned ;-). Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:14:41 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote: A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. I am not sure if this will give a tremendous speedup. Granted, the source files won't need to be read from disk, which is an advantage, however, the file reading time should be very small compared to the time it takes for the compiler to translate the source code into machine code. Also, there's the ammount of memory you will lose, memory that could be used by the compiler. In some cases, gcc can eat very big chunks of memory. Not to mention the OOo ebuild needing around 3GB of space in TMPDIR, so this approach would only result in the emerge failing quicker. -- Neil Bothwick Capt'n! The spellchecker kinna take this abuse! pgpQFIWR2sIPC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging gentoo-kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r31
Thomas Drueke wrote: I want to emerge gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r31 but it has been deleted from the rsync repository. Is there a way to get the corresponding ebuild-file back to get it emerged ? See http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/ Download the desired one, put it in your overlay, and use = to emerge it. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: QOS
A. Khattri ajai at bway.net writes: Are there people on the list who are using QOS, i need it to preserve 4MB for IP telephonie on a 100Mbit line. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Packet_Shaping Hey, this looks very cool. Have you implemented this with success? HTB (Hierarchial Token Buckets) are new to 2.6 and very, very cool. Have you extended this over a wide area network, or across 2 networks connected by a VPN? My need is to use something like this over a wide area Frame Relay network, full of cisco and other routers. No Internet connections, but lots of diffent machine generated traffic to manage. Is this transparent to the cisco and other router configurations in a WAN deployment, or are there modifications I need to make to the cisco router configs to get this working over a private, frame relay cloud? I guess in my case it may be easier to run internal router cards, use something like this for QOS for the applications communicating across the frame relay cloud. I have a sangoma card so I could test this on a tail circuit. What do you use to visualize the diffent types data traffic? MRTG? JFFNMS? CACTI? Comments and ideas are most welcome. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: Ok, you're right, it really does burn cds. Well googling produces lots of complaints about trouble. But it looks mostly like old windows stuff... So, you're still not able to burn them? Try erasing an RW or writting an RW (so you don't spent cds). You should be able to do that with k3b, unless you already have mounted the cd (the erase and burn operations don't need the drive mounted) but I suppose that would echo an error. I'm using a brand new rw cd. I tried copying 2 .wav files to the cd. Here's the messages echoed to the K3b screen: Using cdrecored 2.1 Starting dao writing at 24x speed... Medium or burner do not support writing at 24x speed Switching down burn speed to 4x Starting in 2 seconds Starting in 1 second Writing canceled. by James after 40 minutes Removing buffer files Unlocking drive... Could not unlock CD drive. You don't need anything special on your kernel to burn cds. At least I have nothing special on mine. K3b does it all for me. OK, Maybe my use parameters are missing something? emerge -Nvp k3b reveals ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24 +arts -debug +dvdr +encode +flac +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 0 kB ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging gentoo-kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r31
Thomas Drueke wrote: Hi, I want to emerge gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r31 but it has been deleted from the rsync repository. Is there a way to get the corresponding ebuild-file back to get it emerged ? BR Thomas It looks like you can grab it from cvs: http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/. Use it at your own risk. It's been a while since I used a 2.4 kernel (before my gentoo days). Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
Stuart Howard wrote: thx for the response I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a hangover from my initial genkernel instalation. I would like to remove this package from my system simply because I think I dont need it, this being the bit I am not sure about. I am afraid that there are two things on linux that I have never got on well with, sound and optical drives. :) stu In the gentoo alsa guide lists the pros and cons of alsa-driver vs. the alsa modules from kernel.org. If alsa already works then you don't need alsa-driver. Portage would certainly notify you of any dependency. After you prune the world file, you can use emerge -a depclean to remove unneeded packages. Of course, after a depclean (or any library changes), revdep-rebuild may be necessary. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
Hi I think I know why I have this error but I woul like another view before I -aCv the package, the error from this mornings emerge -aDuv world was :- checking for built-in ALSA... yes configure: error: You have built-in ALSA in your kernel. !!! Please attach the config.log to your bug report: !!! /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/work/alsa-driver-1.0.9b/config.log !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b failed. !!! Function econf, Line 485, Exitcode 0 !!! econf failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I skipped some of the less seemingly pertinent bits, my kernel is currently 2.6.11.5 and ALSA is built into it whereas when I first installed Gentoo [~6 months ago] I used genkernel which IIRC built ALSA as modules which I think has led me to the above error. I checked the changelog and this package media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.9b was last made x86 in febuary which may have been before I installed gentoo hence I think why my world is trying to install it even though I do not require it. Could someone confirm [or guide anyway ] for me that my guess is right and that I will be safe to remove the package. Alternatively I have got completly the wrong end of the stick and I am about to kill my system :) in which case a big NO!! dont do it will suffice . thanks stu -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Jorge Almeida wrote: I just emerged KDE, changing from the monolytic packages to the split ones. Now windows redrawing is painfully (and cas-ca-ding) slow. Have you tried renaming your .kde3.4/ dir temporarily (while logged out of KDE)? And removed all kde and mcop junk from /tmp? Have you unmerged the old kde ebuilds? And done --depclean? And revdep-rebuild? Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
Vincent A. Primavera wrote: Hello, Just looking for some opinions here. What is a good approach to installing applications with a minimal amount of optional USE flags enabled? For example, if one were to run `emerge -pv kde-base/kde` you would be presented with many, many dependencies and USE flags. I would prefer to install less upfront and add on later as needed. Doing an `emerge -pv $packagename` then looking through the dependencies and their USE flags each time, to me, doesn't seem like the best method. I took a look at the list of USE flags at http://www.gentoo-portage.com/USE and disabling dozens of them in /etc/make.conf doesn't seem like a great method either. I'm trying to avoid a big, bloated system without going too crazy here. Any suggestions? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. Hi, Recently there was such discussion, only about the default USE-flags (in current profile). By memory the solution was: -* only desired USE-flags here, ex. alsa crypt readline ... in '/etc/make.conf' -* disables quite all (only all optional w/o the required ones) and turns ON the USE-flags following it. PS: watch out there are 2-3 flags which are absolutely required for a sane system, check ML-archive (readline is one). HTH. Rumen Hello, This looks like what I am leaning towards. Now I just have to find out what those few critical flags are ;o} Thanks all! -- Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hello, I found this below at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11993814: USE=-* tcpd crypt ssl pam ncurses zlib readline. Does it look as minimalistic *and* safe as possible? -- Thank you, Vincent A. Primavera. Director of Information Technology. Ralph Pill Electric Supply Co. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
have you tried using k3bsetup? On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:36:44 + (UTC) James wrote: Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: Ok, you're right, it really does burn cds. Well googling produces lots of complaints about trouble. But it looks mostly like old windows stuff... So, you're still not able to burn them? Try erasing an RW or writting an RW (so you don't spent cds). You should be able to do that with k3b, unless you already have mounted the cd (the erase and burn operations don't need the drive mounted) but I suppose that would echo an error. I'm using a brand new rw cd. I tried copying 2 .wav files to the cd. Here's the messages echoed to the K3b screen: Using cdrecored 2.1 Starting dao writing at 24x speed... Medium or burner do not support writing at 24x speed Switching down burn speed to 4x Starting in 2 seconds Starting in 1 second Writing canceled. by James after 40 minutes Removing buffer files Unlocking drive... Could not unlock CD drive. You don't need anything special on your kernel to burn cds. At least I have nothing special on mine. K3b does it all for me. OK, Maybe my use parameters are missing something? emerge -Nvp k3b reveals ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24 +arts -debug +dvdr +encode +flac +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 0 kB ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? There's a portage bug that fits that description: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13632. When I encounter this I simply package mask the lower versions. mkdir /etc/portage echo gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 /etc/portage/package.mask That is not the correct way as this bug is caused by packages not functioning correctly with *newer* versions. In this case gnumeric doesn't like libgsf versions above 1.10. If you think gnumeric does work well with the newest version of libgsf and that the package maintainer is setting wrongly the dependency version, please file a bug. -- T.G. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD-cd usage
Greetings, On 7/18/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2412 in my portable. #lshw reveals: *-cdrom description: DVD reader product: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412 vendor: Toshiba physical id: 0 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] logical name: /dev/hdc version: 1015 serial: Z34A308331 capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio cd-r cd-rw dvd K3b gives me this error message: Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: only root can mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /mnt/cdrom Well, its pretty obvious that root only can mount, and you're using k3b without root privileges (as a normal user), dus you can't mount it, nor use it. /etc/fstab has this entry: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 Something like the user option is missing, that would allow your normal user to mount and use the drive, make it: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,ro 0 0 # ls -alg /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 reveals lr-xr-xr-x 1 root 33 Dec 31 1969 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 - ../ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd /etc/group has this entry: cdrom::19:root,james Should I pass parameters to the device at boot time via /etc/conf.d/hdparm file? There's no need for that. The cdrom works to play music and I can manually mount CDs with # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom to copy file off the cd. You do that as root, don't you, and besides, a cdda player don't need to mount cdroms, it uses the device itself in read-only mode. But to copy files, you need to mount, and to mount you must be root, or change the fstab file as stated above. So why the error message? What did I miss? Better Ideas on cdrom configuration are most welcome. As I should be able to burn CDs with this device and watch DVD movies? You should be able to do all you can do with your drive, in your case, I believe you can read cds and read dvds, but as far as I know, you can't burn cds, its a dvd drive, not a cdrw or a combo. (at least considering the name, I may be wrong) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem access to Gentoo from XP over SSH - suggestions?
2005/7/18, Steve [Gentoo] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for the many suggestions... Lots of interesting ideas and different perspectives. Zac Medico wrote: Filezilla is an ftp client that supports file transfer over ssh: http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ I'll give that a look - it's not really what I was after - while I suppose I wasn't really clear about my intentions, I really wanted FS-like access to enable me not only to edit text files, but also to use visual differencing tools etc. I'm suspecting that this wouldn't be supported using an ftp-like approach. For remote X you should use nx (emerge nxserver-freenx) or vnc (emerge tightvnc). That's new to me - looks very interesting... I'm guessing I'd need to get this working under cygwin for my XP client... Anything which improves the performance of remote X sessions would be very useful. To map a network drive, you should probably tunnel samba through ssh. Google for samba tunnel putty. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I hadn't thought of googling with putty as I'm using OpenSSH on both client and server - but the techniques look the same. Steve I'm surprised nobody mentioned WinSCP... definitely worth a try: http://winscp.net/ And of course, it's GPLed. Best regards Jose -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge libdvdcss - ACCESS DENIED Error
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98854
On Monday 18 July 2005 01:53 pm, Kurt Guenther wrote:
I've been getting this starting last week Thursday (?). Any ideas?
--Kurt
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def))
Writing index file refman.idx
No file refman.aux.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ts1cmr.fd)kpathsea: Running mktextfm
ecrm1440
ACCESS DENIED access_wr: /usr/share/texmf/fonts
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;
nonstopmode; input ecrm1440
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea: Running mktexmf ecrm1440
ACCESS DENIED access_wr: /usr/share/texmf/fonts
ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/mf12893.tmp
/usr/bin/mktexmf: line 92: mf12893.tmp: Permission denied
chmod: cannot access `mf12893.tmp': No such file or directory
ACCESS DENIED unlink:/var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf
rm: cannot remove `ecrm1440.mf': Permission denied
mv: cannot stat `mf12893.tmp': No such file or directory
mktexmf: /var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf: successfully
generated.
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/mktexupd:
/var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf not a file.
warning: kpathsea: mktexpk output
`/var/cache/fonts/source/jknappen/ec/ecrm1440.mf' instead of a filename.
! I can't find file `ecrm1440'.
* ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ecrm1440
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ecrm1440
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: ecrm1440.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode;
input ecrm1440' failed to make ecrm1440.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
! Font T1/cmr/m/n/14.4=ecrm1440 at 14.4pt not loadable: Metric (TFM)
file not f
ound.
to be read again
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libdvdcss Reference Manual\\[1ex]\large 1.2.5 }\\
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[gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
Daniel da Veiga danieldaveiga at gmail.com writes: cdr and cdrw? We'll 'lshw' shows: product: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412 capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio cd-r cd-rw dvd so I'd assume cd-rw means read write: Also the Toshiba web page: http://www.toshiba-europe.com/storage/ Index.asp?page=PCInav=ISH_PRSmodel=SDR2412 Snip SD-R2412 Slim-Line Combo CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive (24x CD-R Write/8x DVD-ROM Read) Show all Combo (Slim Line) With the introduction of SD-R2412 into the market, Toshiba has suceeded in leading the optical drive standards for the notebook market. This slim combination drive boasts read speeds of 8x DVD, 24x CD and write speeds of 24x CD-R, 10x CD-RW making it one of the most ideal drives for mobile multimedia and storage use. snip I guess it's possible it's not support to be a cd rw, but that is not likely? Maybe it's crippled in firmware, because I do not run winblows on the portable? Dunno... I'm going to test writing to a one-shot disk now... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:07:38PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote: Good afternoon all, A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. Thanks, John OK, this happens all the time. I search, can't find what I want, post a question, search again, and there it is. This is not the thread I was talking about, but it was right in front of me on the Gentoo Wiki. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speeding_up_portage_with_tmpfs Does anyone have any tips on these tips? John -- Contrary to the lie machine, the world is not safer. -- Contrary to the lie machine, the world is not safer. pgpOCzlVjdruu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto speed up compilations
On 7/18/05, John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. I am not sure if this will give a tremendous speedup. Granted, the source files won't need to be read from disk, which is an advantage, however, the file reading time should be very small compared to the time it takes for the compiler to translate the source code into machine code. Also, there's the ammount of memory you will lose, memory that could be used by the compiler. In some cases, gcc can eat very big chunks of memory. And if you use -pipe in your cflags, the gcc output isn't really written to disk during the various stages of compilation. Instead, it's piped through the processes. Well... maybe someone will give you some accurate results. Just my 2c. -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerging gentoo-kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r31
Hi, I want to emerge gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r31 but it has been deleted from the rsync repository. Is there a way to get the corresponding ebuild-file back to get it emerged ? BR Thomas -- Thomas Drueke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has jumping versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? There's a portage bug that fits that description: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13632. When I encounter this I simply package mask the lower versions. mkdir /etc/portage echo gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 /etc/portage/package.mask Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3
Bruno Gola wrote: and about the cd-writer, ive tried cdrecord -scanbus, and it appears my CD-writer there, but now, nothing appears... When cdrecord stops it just broke in my display, i cant exit it, just killing... it stops something like that: ATAPI 1: and stops (ive already wait for 1 hour... and nothing happens) Any idea for this problems? :-P We need the exact arguments that you gave to cdrecord and the exact output. Use the cdrecord -v option. Any way to resize a ext3 partition ? I'm trying with parted: br ~ # parted /dev/hdb resize 1 Start? [32kB]? End? [80GB]? 70GB Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled. Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary. but ... i get this error... anyone knows what should i do ? Too bad that error message isn't more specific. Any idea what that incompatible feature might be? Maybe the output of dumpe2fs -h /dev/hdb | grep features will give you a clue. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge glibc as it completely fills /var
Zac Medico wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: PORTAGE_TMPDIR determines where portage uses for temporary storage. I set this in make.conf, correct? Seems logical but man emerge and man portage don't seem to mention this variable. That's odd, it's not in portage(5) either. It is documented in make.conf.example though. I thought this was in man 5 make.conf /djb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver emerge error
OK well it looks like I have been neglecting my admin duties I am going to proceed with removing the alsa-driver and then go from there, Holly thx for the workaround but I do not feel confident in me ;) I will trust the powers that be and make portage happy, my theory being that portage manages a safe secure stable system and why should I choose to break it. Anyway, on further investigation ie. a revdeprebuild and a emerge p --depclean [as suggested] it seems I have a fair few problems. Lots of nasty red messages saying eek!! [mmm I digress it seems, must return to topic] so revdep is complaining at firefox, probably due to my changing from compiled to bin and the depclean would like to remove 134 packages!! On further reading I think that adding -gnome to /etc/make.conf was hasty [I use xfce but still enjoy a few gnome packages] I will have to do some investigating. On the plus side my daily emerge world has just completed as I was writing this so that is good and sound appears to work though I have not yet rebooted --loathed to do it, reminds me of days on the dark side. well thx people, I will be back should all go horribly wrong :) stu On 7/18/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart Howard schreef: thx for the response I think we missed each other with the point though, currently my sound works just fine and I am happy with it as it is [ie. built in] I am not sure where the alsa driver in world came from unless it is a hangover from my initial genkernel instalation. Well, there is a compromise solution: /etc/portage/profile/package.provided I don't have a clue what I tried to install that wanted alsa-driver, but I added media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.6a (don't actually have to have a version, afaik, you can just put the package name) to the above-mentioned file, and it never bothered me again. Basically, you're telling Portage that you've handled this-- the package is installed, just not *by* Portage, so it should just trust you. And of course you have installed the package-- when you compiled the kernel, so it's not even like you're lying or anything. The upside of this should be that you can uninstall the alsa-driver package (if it is installed), or do an emerge (-p) --depclean to get rid of it, or remove it from your world file, and no program that depends on it should be disturbed (because you've informed Portage that the equivalent data is available, and Portage trusts you :-) )-- and no package that wants to depend on it in the future should try to install it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Richard Fish wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: But it wasn't noticeable before... It looks as if the several widgets were being shown _before_ the main window... So, if I understand you correctly, some mozilla controls get drawn long before the titlebar? Is that right? Yep. If so, possibly an error with themes or alpha blending... But why now? Could you post the output xdpyinfo...I have a feeling the answer is going to be in there. $ xdpyinfo name of display::0.0 version number:11.0 vendor string:Gentoo Linux (The X.Org Foundation 6.8.2, revision r1-0.1.2) vendor release number:60802000 X.Org version: 6.8.2 maximum request size: 16777212 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit, bit order, padding:32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order:LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats:7 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 keycode range:minimum 8, maximum 255 focus: window 0x2a00049, revert to PointerRoot number of extensions:33 BIG-REQUESTS Composite DAMAGE DEC-XTRAP DOUBLE-BUFFER DPMS Extended-Visual-Information GLX LBX MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RANDR RECORD RENDER SECURITY SGI-GLX SHAPE SYNC TOG-CUP X-Resource XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XFIXES XFree86-Bigfont XFree86-DGA XFree86-DRI XFree86-Misc XFree86-VidModeExtension XInputExtension XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo default screen number:0 number of screens:1 screen #0: print screen:no dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (325x260 millimeters) resolution:100x100 dots per inch depths (7):24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32 root window id:0x41 depth of root window:24 planes number of colormaps:minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap:0x20 default number of colormap cells:256 preallocated pixels:black 0, white 16777215 options:backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor:64x64 current input event mask:0xfa4035 KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask KeymapStateMask StructureNotifyMask SubstructureNotifyMask SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask PropertyChangeMask ColormapChangeMask number of visuals:9 default visual id: 0x23 visual: visual id:0x23 class:TrueColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x24 class:TrueColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x25 class:TrueColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x26 class:TrueColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x27 class:DirectColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x28 class:DirectColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x29 class:DirectColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x2a class:DirectColor depth:24 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits visual: visual id:0x3f class:TrueColor depth:32 planes available colormap entries:256 per subfield red, green, blue masks:0xff, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification:8 bits -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3
On 7/18/05, Bruno Gola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled. 1) Remove the journal from the ext3 partition using tune2fs: tune2fs -C ^has_journal partition 2) Resize using parted 3) Add the journal back using tune2fs: tune2fs -j partition See 'man tune2fs' (as root) for important warnings information (and I really hope I've got that right...) Qtparted might be an easier way to do the resize, as well... shrug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto speed up compilations
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:26:38 +0200 Francesco Talamona wrote: On Monday 18 July 2005 19:07, John J. Foster wrote: Good afternoon all, A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB ram. IIRC OO takes more than 3GB of space to compile. Gcc itself is quite RAM demanding... I tkink it is feasible for smaller programs. yeah and smaller programs take a negligible time in most cases. anyone who has tested this, did you have ccache turned off? if it is on it will skew results to hell, as a lot of the object files will be cached. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.11-gentoo-r11, Compiled #1 Thu Jun 23 05:26:18 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4308.99 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Rumen Yotov wrote: Hi, Think i can't of great help here, but at least twice when i had slow graphical performance solved it by re-emerging some packages and xorg-x11 once (i assume you have run 'revdep-rebuild' ;) As it seems your main DM is KDE it's likely that there may be issues with GTK-apps, as their libs/deps also get loaded when mozilla/etc is run. Here's some info: 1.mozilla dependencies: ...www-client/mozilla-1.7.8: crypt? !moznomail? =app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.1 app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.1 postgres? =dev-db/postgresql-7.2.0 dev-db/postgresql-8.0.1-r4 =dev-libs/glib-2.2.0dev-libs/glib-2.6.4 =dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.0 dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.5 =media-libs/fontconfig-2.1 media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.3 =media-libs/jpeg-6b media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 =media-libs/libmng-1.0.0 media-libs/libmng-1.0.8-r1 =media-libs/libpng-1.2.1 media-libs/libpng-1.2.8 =sys-apps/portage-2.0.36 sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22-r1 =sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4sys-libs/zlib-1.2.2-r1 =www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.22 www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.32 =www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.28 www-client/mozilla-launcher-1.32 =x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.0x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.7 =x11-libs/pango-1.2.1 x11-libs/pango-1.8.1 app-arch/unzip app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2 app-arch/zip app-arch/zip-2.3-r4 dev-lang/perldev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r5 dev-libs/expat dev-libs/expat-1.95.8 dev-util/pkgconfig dev-util/pkgconfig-0.17.2-r1 !bootstrap? sys-devel/patch sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 !moznoxft? virtual/xft x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 ~sys-devel/autoconf-2.13 sys-devel/autoconf-2.13 ... 2.GTK+ dependencies: ...x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.7: =dev-libs/atk-1.0.1 dev-libs/atk-1.9.1 =dev-libs/glib-2.6 dev-libs/glib-2.6.4 =dev-util/pkgconfig-0.12.0 dev-util/pkgconfig-0.17.2-r1 jpeg? =media-libs/jpeg-6b-r2 media-libs/jpeg-6b-r4 =media-libs/libpng-1.2.1 media-libs/libpng-1.2.8 =sys-devel/automake-1.7.9 sys-devel/automake-1.9.5 =x11-libs/pango-1.8 x11-libs/pango-1.8.1 sys-devel/autoconf sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r6 !bootstrap? sys-devel/patch sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2 x11-misc/shared-mime-info x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.16 ... IMHO you could first try emerging: glibgtk+ and probably in second place: xorg-x11. There are also many image-manupulation libraries: jpeg,png,mng HTH. Rumen Sigh I guess it's going to be a long week... Thanks :) Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Benno Schulenberg wrote: Have you tried renaming your .kde3.4/ dir temporarily (while logged out of KDE)? And removed all kde and mcop junk from /tmp? Have you unmerged the old kde ebuilds? And done --depclean? And revdep-rebuild? No. I think a deep cleaning is in order. Thank you. Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
Jorge Almeida wrote: ... IMHO you could first try emerging: glibgtk+ and probably in second place: xorg-x11. There are also many image-manupulation libraries: jpeg,png,mng HTH. Rumen Sigh I guess it's going to be a long week... Thanks :) Jorge Something that's still unclear to me: is the problem with kde, mozilla, or both? If you experience the same problem with mozilla under openbox then your troubles have nothing to do with kde. OTOH, if you there's no problems under openbox then the problem is in X/glib/gtk/mozilla. You can greatly reduce the troubleshooting time if you go about it in a systematic way (process of elimination/scientific method) to isolate the problem. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: have you tried using k3bsetup? Ah, this may be the problem. IN the k3b gui, I went under settings, but did not see anything critical. The only documents I have found are in /usr/share/doc/k3b-0.11.24. Running k3bsetup as root fired up the gui. All of the selections look fine. I hit the 'apply button' anbd it popped up 'Successfully updated all permissions.' It wrote out this file: /root/.kde3.3/share/config/k3bsetup2rc Which is: [Devices] TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412=4234,4200,auto,auto device_search_path=/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd [External Programs] cdrdao default=/usr/bin/cdrdao cdrdao user parameters= cdrecord default=/usr/bin/cdrecord cdrecord user parameters= search path=/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin/,/usr/sbin/,/usr/local/sbin/,/opt/schily/bin/,/sbin [General Settings] burning group=burning use burning group=false This look OK? I get the same results trying to burn 2 .wav files to the cd-rw... It runs but no progress with preparing write process (0%) or Overall progress (0%). It just hangs. I let it go a while but nothing happens. Then I quite and mount the cd manually as root... empty... ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
yes i think you should try cdrecord from the command line with the verbose option turned on and see what happens. ( the option is -V). If you need the basics of how to use cdrecord see the cd writing howto at http://tldp.org There is some weird crap with cdrecord and various kernel versions. what versions of cdrecrod and kernel are you running? also I note that i am in the cdrecording group in /etc/group - I am not sure if this is important or a hangover from some earlier setup. On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:01:12 + (UTC) James wrote: Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: have you tried using k3bsetup? Ah, this may be the problem. IN the k3b gui, I went under settings, but did not see anything critical. The only documents I have found are in /usr/share/doc/k3b-0.11.24. Running k3bsetup as root fired up the gui. All of the selections look fine. I hit the 'apply button' anbd it popped up 'Successfully updated all permissions.' It wrote out this file: /root/.kde3.3/share/config/k3bsetup2rc Which is: [Devices] TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412=4234,4200,auto,auto device_search_path=/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd [External Programs] cdrdao default=/usr/bin/cdrdao cdrdao user parameters= cdrecord default=/usr/bin/cdrecord cdrecord user parameters= search path=/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin/,/usr/sbin/,/usr/local/sbin/,/opt/schily/bin/,/sbin [General Settings] burning group=burning use burning group=false This look OK? I get the same results trying to burn 2 .wav files to the cd-rw... It runs but no progress with preparing write process (0%) or Overall progress (0%). It just hangs. I let it go a while but nothing happens. Then I quite and mount the cd manually as root... empty... ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slow redrawing in KDE
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Something that's still unclear to me: is the problem with kde, mozilla, or both? If you experience the same problem with mozilla under openbox then your troubles have nothing to do with kde. OTOH, if you there's no problems under openbox then the problem is in X/glib/gtk/mozilla. No problem under openbox. The problem manifests with mozilla, but only after upgrading KDE. All is probablly my fault, for not keeping my system clean. I'm in the cleaning process now... Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage
Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: yes i think you should try cdrecord from the command line with the verbose option turned on and see what happens. ( the option is -V). If you need the basics of how to use cdrecord see the cd writing howto at http://tldp.org Well looking at that I used: cdrecord dev=ATAPI:1,1,0 -eject speed=2 -pad -audio -v close.wav Here are the results: cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg on-the-fly encryption (version 1.0-rc1) built-in, (C) 2004,2005 NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to burbon04 at gmx.de. For more information please see http://burbon04.gmxhome.de/linux/CDREncryption.html. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. scsidev: 'ATAPI:1,1,0' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: 1 target: 1 lun: 0 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained. Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: -1 cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder. cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: fatal error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s There is some weird crap with cdrecord and various kernel versions. what versions of cdrecrod and kernel are you running? 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 (standard with no patches) I kept these old kernel, which I can reboot and test? 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 2.6.11-gentoo-r10 also I note that i am in the cdrecording group in /etc/group - I am not sure if this is important or a hangover from some earlier setup. I added root and myself to this line in /etc/group cdrw::80:root,james I was already in this line: cdrom::19:root,james Maybe a better command line to test with cdrecord? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
