Re: [Gimp-user] Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi Jon,

Thanks for your response.

At 11:18 PM 2002/6/7 -0500, Jon Winters wrote:
I've never seen Gimp tutorials in PDF format.  You might want to poke 
around freshmeat.net or sourceforge to find a PDF printing filter.  You 
could load an HTML tutorial in your browser and print to PDF and then do 
what you please as long as you don't violate the copyright of the web author.

Why the PDF format??

Gimp user's manuals has PDF version.  You are right, most manuals in HTML 
Framed / Ordinary version.  PDF version is much smaller in file size than 
HTML version.  But this is not my point looking for a PDF version of the 
tutorial Tutorial Pointers Page in following website

http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/

They are web-pages.  Then I have to save all of them page by page.  It 
shall take a lengthy time to complete not including the time to print them 
to a .pdf file.

Anyway I will to take a browse on Internet.

Thanks

Stephen


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Re: [Gimp-user] Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for your response.

Gimp user's manual, second edition, has PDF version of 9.49MB in file 
size.  Grokking the Gimp in HTML, the tarball is 26.8 MB.  I have both of 
them downloaded.

But this is not my point looking for a PDF version of the tutorial 
Tutorial Pointers Page in following website

http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/

They are web-pages.  Then I have to save all of them page by page.  It 
shall take me a lengthy time to complete not including the time to print 
them to a .pdf file.

Anyway I will to take a browse on Internet.

Thanks

Stephen Liu


At 10:41 AM 2002/6/8 +1000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 08:26:43AM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
  Thanks for your advice.
 
  I found following website
 
  http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/
 
  from www.gimp.org under the link referred as Gimp Tutorial Pointers
  Page.  The documents  there are quite interesting, but I expect to find
  those tutorials in PDF format.

I think you're basically out of luck. A lot of tutorials exist (as you
already see) in HTML format. If you would prefer something pre-printed,
try the print version of Grokking the Gimp.

The original Gimp manual was available in PDF, if I recall correctly,
but is was based on 1.0.x and is very dated now. Grokking the Gimp has
really surpassed it as the useful reference (well, along with Sven's
Pocket Reference, of course).

Malcolm


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[Gimp-user] Re: Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-06-08 at 1726.04 +0800):
 They are web-pages.  Then I have to save all of them page by page.  It 
 shall take me a lengthy time to complete not including the time to print 
 them to a .pdf file.

There are tools to get web pages automatically, like wget. For
conversion too, like html2pdf or html2ps + ghostscript or htmldoc or
print from the browser to a pdf file (virtual printer trick). Just
search for the tools first, then let the computer work for you.

Also remember that the format of the web is HTML, not PDF, so it is
normal to find few things in PDF and a lot in HTML. OTOH, I just did a
quick test, hit print in NS, selected file, then converted the ps to
pdf. Not completly automatic, but not too long. For mass conversion, I
would print everything to ps, then run a script to convert all the ps
in the directory to pdf. And I would get the files with the proper
names, not some weird names, so I doubt it is really a waste of time.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi Massimiliano,

Thanks for your advice.

The wget tool sounds similar to weblicator in Windows, downloading the 
complete homepage including all links for offline browsing.

Before start please advise :

1) How to check whether the wget tool has been installed ?
2) Where shall the complete homepage be stored, in which folder/directory ?
3) Would it be possible to print the complete homepage download including 
links in one ' click ' similar to printing a file rather then to print page 
by page

Thanks in advance.

Stephen Liu

At 01:17 PM 2002/6/8 +0200, you wrote:
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 05:26:04PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
  http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/
  They are web-pages.  Then I have to save all of them page by page.  It
  shall take me a lengthy time to complete not including the time to print
  them to a .pdf file.

If the wget tool is available on your machine, just issue:

wget --mirror --no-parent http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/gimp/tuts/

The tutorials directory will be mirrored onto your hard disk without
further action and you will be able to browse it locally.

If wget is not available, you can download it for Windows at
ftp://sunsite.dk/projects/wget/windows or (better) as part of the
cygwin distribution.  It is free software like GIMP.

Hope this helps.

Massimiliano


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Re: [Gimp-user] Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re.Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Christian Gundersson

lör 2002-06-08 klockan 18.17 skrev Stephen Liu:
 Hi Massimiliano,
 
 Thanks for your advice.
 
 The wget tool sounds similar to weblicator in Windows, downloading the 
 complete homepage including all links for offline browsing.
 
 Before start please advise :
 
 1) How to check whether the wget tool has been installed ?
Asuming you use rpm then, rpm -qa | grep wget in a terminal should do
the trick. If you get a line saying something like wget-1.23-i386 then
it's installed.

 2) Where shall the complete homepage be stored, in which folder/directory ?
Wherever you preffer, a good advice is ~/downloads/name-of-homepage.
Just make a directory in your homecatalogue and place it there.

 3) Would it be possible to print the complete homepage download including 
 links in one ' click ' similar to printing a file rather then to print page 
 by page
I dunno, some other person has to help you there sorry :

//Christian Gundersson
 /Gimp amateur
Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous





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Re: [Gimp-user] Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread John Culleton

On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:28 pm, Christian Gundersson wrote:
 lör 2002-06-08 klockan 18.17 skrev Stephen Liu:
  Hi Massimiliano,
 
  Thanks for your advice.
 
  The wget tool sounds similar to weblicator in Windows, downloading the
  complete homepage including all links for offline browsing.
 
  Before start please advise :
 
  1) How to check whether the wget tool has been installed ?

 Asuming you use rpm then, rpm -qa | grep wget in a terminal should do
 the trick. If you get a line saying something like wget-1.23-i386 then
 it's installed.

  2) Where shall the complete homepage be stored, in which folder/directory
  ?

 Wherever you preffer, a good advice is ~/downloads/name-of-homepage.
 Just make a directory in your homecatalogue and place it there.

  3) Would it be possible to print the complete homepage download including
  links in one ' click ' similar to printing a file rather then to print
  page by page

 I dunno, some other person has to help you there sorry :

 //Christian Gundersson
  /Gimp amateur
 Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous

On most Linux systems 

locate wget 

will find it and 

man wget 

will tell you more than you ever need to know.

Wget is just a non-interactive version of ftp, comparable to the old uucp
method of unattended file transfer. 

I just used it to download all the Context manuals. It took two steps.
First I downloaded a list of manuals and second I referenced that list
and downloaded the manuals themselves. 

HTH
 
-- 
John Culleton
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former : Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Jeff Trefftzs

From his headers, Stephen Liu is on a windows machine, which means he may lack 
most of the nice linux/unix web tools such as wget, etc.  Are there any other 
windows users out there who have tried to download/convert the various GIMP 
tutorials?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Tutorial Pointers Page in PDF format (former :Re. Good tutorial in PDF format)

2002-06-08 Thread Carl-Johan Sveningsson

On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
 wget exists for Win32, so do lot of Unix tools (search for Cygwin or
 POSIX or any other terms), like a decent shell. Dunno if NS is capable
 of printing to PS directly under MS Windows, and that is a first step
 towards the ps2pdf path.

First, I think its in place to point out that we've now drifted quite far 
from the solution the poor guy originally requested. Shellscripting etc is 
not a simple solution, which his question In which folder will the site 
be stored illustrates, quite unintuitive, and all of this still demands 
the downloading of entire sites in HTML... i.e. - not what was requested 
originally - simply tutorials in pdf, which might be quite a good idea to 
try providing further on.

Though, converting to pdf etc. is still interesting, and my $0.02 is that 
printing to any FILE-connected (i.e. - choose FILE rather than LPR1/2) 
generic Postscript-printer under Windows will generate what seems to be a 
proper ps-file, just rename it from file.prn or whatever Windows prefers 
to call them, to file.ps.

This seems to work, at least to the extent that I've brought such files 
(via gzip and scp) through the school's unix lpr-printers, they can be 
edited with mpage/psnup etc. Though, I figure that a good idea might be to 
also bring them through ps2ps to clean them up.

My $0.02...

/Carl-Johan


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