Re: [Gimp-user] templates

2011-08-19 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Paul Le Grice plegr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am new to Gimp and want to use it to create individual body maps of skin
 lesions by drawing on a body part template and pasting to patient notes.
  However, when I save a body map as a template, I can't seem to access it
 again to modify.  Am I overlooking something?
 thanks

Yes. A template currently isn't a full image, just the basic characteristics
like Width, Height, and (possibly, don't remember for sure) Fill .
Until such time as full XCF templates are implemented, I suggest instead
making the base body map, copying the XCF you just made, and finally
creating a custom launcher which passes the path of that XCF to GIMP.
Then every time you needed to create a new record, use that launcher. That
way you would immediately have that base XCF loaded, ready to make a
modified version from, each time you start GIMP.
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[Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread bktheman34
I have come across this rather nasty website: gimp.us.com which appears to 
offer GIMP bundled with a bunch of horrible adware when you use their 
installer. The website looks like it's official, and they even tell you about 
all the adware it will install, they also claim that GIMP is advertiser 
supported which is why they can offer it for free, but is this legal? Can 
something be done? Aren't they breaking the GNU licence? I fear, if not 
challenged, websites like this will ruin the reputation of GIMP. I have come 
across quite a few people who have used this site to install GIMP, thinking it 
is an official download, and then found their computer compromised. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
bktheman34 for...@gimpusers.com writes:

 I have come across this rather nasty website: gimp.us.com which appears to 
 offer GIMP bundled with a bunch of horrible adware when you use their 
 installer. The website looks like it's official, and they even tell you about 
 all the adware it will install, they also claim that GIMP is advertiser 
 supported which is why they can offer it for free, but is this legal? Can 
 something be done? Aren't they breaking the GNU licence? I fear, if not 
 challenged, websites like this will ruin the reputation of GIMP. I have come 
 across quite a few people who have used this site to install GIMP, thinking 
 it is an official download, and then found their computer compromised. 

When I click their download link, I'm directed to sourceforge, ie. the
official download. Also, I tried turning off Adblock Plus and I still
see only one small advertisement at the very bottom of the page (where
do they claim that GIMP is ad supported?)

I don't think they are breaking the license in any way, although they
should of course note that http://www.gimp.org is the official home
page. They do however link to gimp.org some places.

(I'm not at all endorsing gimp.us.com, but I don't think they're doing
anything illegal, nor do I see signs of adware.)


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[Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread bktheman34
When I click their download link, I'm directed to sourceforge, ie. the
official download. Also, I tried turning off Adblock Plus and I still
see only one small advertisement at the very bottom of the page (where
do they claim that GIMP is ad supported?)

I don't think they are breaking the license in any way, although they
should of course note that http://www.gimp.org is the official home
page. They do however link to gimp.org some places.

(I'm not at all endorsing gimp.us.com, but I don't think they're doing
anything illegal, nor do I see signs of adware.)

Here is the offending page: 
http://www.gimp.us.com/free-photo-editor/disclaimer.php


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[Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread bktheman34
Forgot to mention, when you click on the apparent source forge link, it starts 
to download the file from freefr.dl.sourceforge.net

Whereas the links from the official website point to this page on source forge: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/GIMP%20%2B%20GTK%2B%20%28stable%20release%29/GIMP%202.6.11%20%2B%20GTK%2B%202.16.6/gimp-2.6.11-i686-setup-1.exe/download

Perhaps I am being overly cautious - but people I know have told me they have 
installed gimp, and other nasties at the same time from the offending website.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread Burnie West
On 08/19/2011 07:19 AM, bktheman34 wrote:
 Forgot to mention, when you click on the apparent source forge link, it 
 starts to download the file from freefr.dl.sourceforge.net

 Whereas the links from the official website point to this page on source 
 forge: 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/GIMP%20%2B%20GTK%2B%20%28stable%20release%29/GIMP%202.6.11%20%2B%20GTK%2B%202.16.6/gimp-2.6.11-i686-setup-1.exe/download

 Perhaps I am being overly cautious - but people I know have told me they have 
 installed gimp, and other nasties at the same time from the offending website.


IMHO this is more a case of buyer beware - - I do find it offensive (and I 
suspect AAdobe is somewhat annoyed at GIMP being termed free Photoshop but 
that's their worry).

People who pursue such paths without a modicum of due diligence sort of get 
what 
they deserve. I hope we're not tending toward a national belief that making 
silly mistakes should be illegal.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread Mikael Ståldal
On 2011-08-19 14:39, bktheman34 wrote:
  I have come across this rather nasty website: gimp.us.com which
  appears to offer GIMP bundled with a bunch of horrible adware when
  you use their installer. The website looks like it's official, and
  they even tell you about all the adware it will install, they also
  claim that GIMP is advertiser supported which is why they can offer
  it for free, but is this legal? Can something be done?

Perhaps sites like this would be less attractive if the GIMP team would 
provide an official binaries for Windows and Mac:

The GIMP team doesn't provide official Mac binaries.

The GIMP team doesn't officially provide any Windows binaries.

(This is nothing I personally need since I use Linux.)
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2011-08-19 Thread Sigma Avro

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Re: [Gimp-user] templates

2011-08-19 Thread dh
On Friday, August 19, 2011, David Gowers (kampu) wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Paul Le Grice plegr...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am new to Gimp and want to use it to create individual body maps of
  skin lesions by drawing on a body part template and pasting to patient
  notes.
  
   However, when I save a body map as a template, I can't seem to access
   it
  
  again to modify.  Am I overlooking something?
  thanks
 
 Yes. A template currently isn't a full image, just the basic
 characteristics like Width, Height, and (possibly, don't remember for
 sure) Fill . Until such time as full XCF templates are implemented, I
 suggest instead making the base body map, copying the XCF you just made,
 and finally creating a custom launcher which passes the path of that XCF
 to GIMP. Then every time you needed to create a new record, use that
 launcher. That way you would immediately have that base XCF loaded,
 ready to make a modified version from, each time you start GIMP.

Also, once you make this stock xcf file, remember change the permissions to 
read only so you will be forced to use save as when creating a newrecord 
from it. 

see ya
dh
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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread dh
On Friday, August 19, 2011, bktheman34 wrote:
 When I click their download link, I'm directed to sourceforge, ie. the
 official download. Also, I tried turning off Adblock Plus and I still
 see only one small advertisement at the very bottom of the page (where
 do they claim that GIMP is ad supported?)
 
 I don't think they are breaking the license in any way, although they
 should of course note that http://www.gimp.org is the official home
 page. They do however link to gimp.org some places.
 
 (I'm not at all endorsing gimp.us.com, but I don't think they're doing
 anything illegal, nor do I see signs of adware.)
 
 Here is the offending page:
 http://www.gimp.us.com/free-photo-editor/disclaimer.php

I see no mention of the GPL or links to download the source code for GIMP on 
that page (or on http://dl.gimp.us.com/) . If their installer is providing 
the executable from their own repository then they are supposedly required 
to do this. (Perhaps these links are available in the installer?)

I believe the FSF provides enforcement of GPL related complaints.

http://www.gimp.us.com/ is providing an installer which is the service and 
software they take responsibility for. They do not claim authorship of 
GIMP, but the way they choose to distribute it seems (to me) to fail to 
comply w/ the GPL.

If anyone has tried this installer, and not had source code offered upon 
request (for GIMP, not the installer) then I would suggest they contact the 
FSF or GIMP developers.

see ya
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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread Frank Gore
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:04 PM, dh mesamoo...@comcast.net wrote:
 I see no mention of the GPL or links to download the source code for GIMP on
 that page (or on http://dl.gimp.us.com/) . If their installer is providing
 the executable from their own repository then they are supposedly required
 to do this. (Perhaps these links are available in the installer?)

They are not providing a download. They are providing a link to an
existing download. The whole web site does not actually DO anything
except show misleading charts to users and offer up links to downloads
they don't own.

Further, they DO provide a link to the source code right there at the
bottom of every page, and they clearly acknowledge the fact that Gimp
is GPL'ed software. They don't pretend to have created it or have
anything to do with its development. Near as I can tell, this site's
sole purpose is to show up in search results and display ads to
people. There's nothing illegal about that.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
bktheman34 for...@gimpusers.com writes:

When I click their download link, I'm directed to sourceforge, ie. the
official download. Also, I tried turning off Adblock Plus and I still
see only one small advertisement at the very bottom of the page (where
do they claim that GIMP is ad supported?)

I don't think they are breaking the license in any way, although they
should of course note that http://www.gimp.org is the official home
page. They do however link to gimp.org some places.

(I'm not at all endorsing gimp.us.com, but I don't think they're doing
anything illegal, nor do I see signs of adware.)

 Here is the offending page: 
 http://www.gimp.us.com/free-photo-editor/disclaimer.php


Yes, that does mention an ad-supported program. However, I still find no
way to install what they're advertising, only the official version. I've
downloaded the Windows version, it really is the official Windows
installer as packaged by Jernej Simončič. I guess they could be charged
with not providing the most up-to-date download (2.6.11, they're
providing 2.6.10), but the checksum of the two files are the same.

(Also, freefr.dl.sourceforge.net is still part of
*.sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/*, so no problem there.)


It does seem though, that perhaps at some point in time they did provide
an adware installer, and the disclaimer-page is a remnant from that?
(They do have GPL links now, at least.)

Or perhaps they just never got around to writing that adware version?
Best to keep an eye on them then =P



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Re: [Gimp-user] Nasty website bundles GIMP with Adware/Spyware

2011-08-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:04 AM, dh wrote:

 I see no mention of the GPL or links to download the source code for GIMP on
 that page (or on http://dl.gimp.us.com/).

You what?

Gimp is an open source product developed by The GIMP Development Team
licensed under GNU GPL. Source code for Gimp can be found here. is in
the footer of every page there, and
http://www.gimp.us.com/free-photo-editor/terms.php has the GPL text.

C'mon, people.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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