[Gimp-user] Re: makin pattern?
hi, On 2002-12-19 at 0608.46 -0800, zeus typed this: How to make gimp pattern. is there any refference or some explanation how to make patterns, or someone khow ho to make it. Please i need your help.. I try to make it, with renaming xcf file to .pat. But, it didn't work. I got error message. using gimp 1.2.3 in Linux box. simply save the image as filename.pat and put it in your ~.gimp-1.2/patterns/ directory. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: makin pattern?
Carol Spears wrote: hi, On 2002-12-19 at 0608.46 -0800, zeus typed this: How to make gimp pattern. is there any refference or some explanation how to make patterns, or someone khow ho to make it. Please i need your help.. I try to make it, with renaming xcf file to .pat. But, it didn't work. I got error message. using gimp 1.2.3 in Linux box. simply save the image as filename.pat and put it in your ~.gimp-1.2/patterns/ directory. carol Thanks I've done this as well and it refreshes the Patterns I can choose in the toolbox but it doesn't refresh the Filter/Render/Pattern popup-menu. How can I refresh that menu? Peace Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: makin pattern?
hi again, early am answer and i didn't read the whole question. sorry. On 2002-12-19 at 0820.58 -0800, Tom Williams typed this: Carol Spears wrote: hi, On 2002-12-19 at 0608.46 -0800, zeus typed this: How to make gimp pattern. is there any refference or some explanation how to make patterns, or someone khow ho to make it. Please i need your help.. I try to make it, with renaming xcf file to .pat. But, it didn't work. I got error message. using gimp 1.2.3 in Linux box. simply save the image as filename.pat and put it in your ~.gimp-1.2/patterns/ directory. Thanks I've done this as well and it refreshes the Patterns I can choose in the toolbox but it doesn't refresh the Filter/Render/Pattern popup-menu. How can I refresh that menu? File--Render--Patterns is a collection of filters. File--Dialogs--Patterns is where this new pattern would be located. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Script-Fu - Batch Mode Problem
Hello, I am having an issue with a Script that I have written being called from the command line. Here is what I am trying to do. I have written a script using Scheme that runs great when I have Gimp loaded up (ie not from the command line). No problems, does everything that I want. The real point of the script is to automate some image resizing from the command line. I know that many of you out there are going to point out that ImageMagick will do what I am looking for. I have already gone down that path and the image quality of the scaled images is not up to the quality that client wants. However, I can make a better, smaller image using Gimpnow I just need to make it completely automated. here is the rub. I have the script streamlined down and everything is set to be non-interactive. So i should just be able to pass in the variables and away we go My thinking is obviously flawed here as it doesn't quite work. here is how I am calling the script: gimp -b '(script-fu-automated-resize 1 200 200 /export/home/matt/toprocess/Imagein.jpg /export/home/matt/toprocess/Imageout.jpg)' '(gimp-quit 0)' The script takes in a height, width, beginning image and output image. I pass it a 1 before all of that for non-interactive. The script is designed to open the beginning image, resize accordingly, and then save to the output image. I get the following response. batch command: executed successfully. One would think that I should be able to check my system and I should see the end imagenopenada...nothing. If I change the option of 1 to 0 to run in interactive mode...I get the prompt for the default values of the script. Height, Width, Image to processfinal image. If I enter those in, click the ok buttonit runs like a champ. What am I missing? I have the non-interactive bit set on the file open which I assume is what is causing this dialog to pop up. Any ideas? tips? Pointer? References? Anyone already have a thumbnail script that works in this way that can shed some light on the subject? Matt Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Script-Fu - Batch Mode Problem
hi lord knows, i don't know the answer to that directly, but it might be here: http://adrian.gimp.org/batch/batch.html carol On 2002-12-19 at 1935.36 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed this: Hello, I am having an issue with a Script that I have written being called from the command line. Here is what I am trying to do. I have written a script using Scheme that runs great when I have Gimp loaded up (ie not from the command line). No problems, does everything that I want. The real point of the script is to automate some image resizing from the command line. I know that many of you out there are going to point out that ImageMagick will do what I am looking for. I have already gone down that path and the image quality of the scaled images is not up to the quality that client wants. However, I can make a better, smaller image using Gimpnow I just need to make it completely automated. here is the rub. I have the script streamlined down and everything is set to be non-interactive. So i should just be able to pass in the variables and away we go My thinking is obviously flawed here as it doesn't quite work. here is how I am calling the script: gimp -b '(script-fu-automated-resize 1 200 200 /export/home/matt/toprocess/Imagein.jpg /export/home/matt/toprocess/Imageout.jpg)' '(gimp-quit 0)' The script takes in a height, width, beginning image and output image. I pass it a 1 before all of that for non-interactive. The script is designed to open the beginning image, resize accordingly, and then save to the output image. I get the following response. batch command: executed successfully. One would think that I should be able to check my system and I should see the end imagenopenada...nothing. If I change the option of 1 to 0 to run in interactive mode...I get the prompt for the default values of the script. Height, Width, Image to processfinal image. If I enter those in, click the ok buttonit runs like a champ. What am I missing? I have the non-interactive bit set on the file open which I assume is what is causing this dialog to pop up. Any ideas? tips? Pointer? References? Anyone already have a thumbnail script that works in this way that can shed some light on the subject? Matt Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Rapha?l's questions about web team (was FAQ)
On 2002-12-19 at 1759.28 +0100, Rapha?l Quinet typed this: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:19:28 -0800 (PST), Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gimp web team has desired that the current FAQ's be updated to reflect the current 1.2.x reality for some time. Sorry to rehash a topic that has already been mentioned a few days ago on the gimp-dev list, but what is the gimp web team and how do I get in touch with it? I haven't seen the FAQ topic being discussed on the gimp-web list (which would be the appropriate place for this). well, i want a working news and contest before i have an official team and any sort of official announcement of the new site (which is at http://mmmaybe.gimp.org now btw) i need to get that eh, wiki off the front and the nifty news and contest i have seen and operated already to be there instead. should be soon. wish i could show some photos of the semi truck accident that has slowed things down some here. contact me if you have ideas, wait for official announcements to fix typos and things. sorry it isn't as organized as it should be. Rapha?l, any more questions? sorry it is going like this. i dunno any other way though. ;) carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: New Gimp FAQ: Call for questions
i have a question for a FAQ. At what point is it better to use The GIMP for batch processing over Image Magick? i ask this question because there are some things about gimp that are nicer than Image Magick. I read from someone (jlbec on #gimp) that The GIMP hands saving as png much much better than Image Magick. so i would like to see those sort of issues addressed in a FAQ. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?
This is a GREAT question as I've run into this a LOT. I've recently learned how to install Windows True-Type fonts in XFree86 (4.2.1) and I'm finding I can use the Windows fonts with gimp on Linux that I thought I had abandoned. An answer to the 2-byte font problem would be greatly appreciated :) Peace Tom Christopher Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any rkeley.eduoptions? 12/19/02 01:56 PM Our mission is to help our clients achieve more cost-effective data center operations. I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of the fonts that my users want to use are causing the This is a 2-byte font and may not display correctly. message to appear. The may not display in the message seems to consistantly translate into renders in image as a tiny ugly font like the Windows System font. Is there any workaround for this? We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0. I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes a detailed way to reproduce the problem.) all without coming up with anything. I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where to begin. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. -- /chris Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always overcome with a methodology or on a schedule. -Damian Conway, Perl God ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Script-Fu - Batch Mode Problem
Yeah...I have read that already and have gotten a ton of great tips on how to make things workbut I am still having the problem after all that is said and done. It appears that the script doesn't want to accept the parameters that I am passing in properly. This has been frustrating me for several days now so I am open to any suggestions. Matt Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:05:26 - (GMT), Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi lord knows, i don't know the answer to that directly, but it might be here: http://adrian.gimp.org/batch/batch.html carol On 2002-12-19 at 1935.36 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed this: Hello, I am having an issue with a Script that I have written being called from the command line. Here is what I am trying to do. I have written a script using Scheme that runs great when I have Gimp loaded up (ie not from the command line). No problems, does everything that I want. The real point of the script is to automate some image resizing from the command line. I know that many of you out there are going to point out that ImageMagick will do what I am looking for. I have already gone down that path and the image quality of the scaled images is not up to the quality that client wants. However, I can make a better, smaller image using Gimpnow I just need to make it completely automated. here is the rub. I have the script streamlined down and everything is set to be non-interactive. So i should just be able to pass in the variables and away we go My thinking is obviously flawed here as it doesn't quite work. here is how I am calling the script: gimp -b '(script-fu-automated-resize 1 200 200 /export/home/matt/toprocess/Imagein.jpg /export/home/matt/toprocess/Imageout.jpg)' '(gimp-quit 0)' The script takes in a height, width, beginning image and output image. I pass it a 1 before all of that for non-interactive. The script is designed to open the beginning image, resize accordingly, and then save to the output image. I get the following response. batch command: executed successfully. One would think that I should be able to check my system and I should see the end imagenopenada...nothing. If I change the option of 1 to 0 to run in interactive mode...I get the prompt for the default values of the script. Height, Width, Image to processfinal image. If I enter those in, click the ok buttonit runs like a champ. What am I missing? I have the non-interactive bit set on the file open which I assume is what is causing this dialog to pop up. Any ideas? tips? Pointer? References? Anyone already have a thumbnail script that works in this way that can shed some light on the subject? Matt Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] FAQ answers
On Thursday 19 December 2002 23:50, Michael J. Hammel wrote: Thus spoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, I asked this question :) OK here is my FAQ: How does one set defaults in Gimp for e.g., output formats? See File-Preferences. However, the default format is XCF which is GIMP's built in format to save layer information. To specify a different output format you either append the appropriate suffix to the filename (and let GIMP guess which format that means) or set the option menu to the format you want to use. Other defaults are configurable in the Preferences dialog. Hope that helps a little. The preferences I referred to are for PS output and include such items as: Encapsulated Postscript (my preference) Zero horizontal and vertical offset (my preference) Inches instead of pixels for dimensions (my preference) The Preferences dialog doesn't cover these details. I don't mind specifying PS output. It's these other details that have to be reset in the same way on every run. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters Rowse Reviews Culleton Editorial Services http://wexfordpress.com Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] FAQ answers
Tom Williams wrote: *) How does the Xtns/Script-Fu menu differ from the Script-Fu pop-up menu? (Answering the questions Michael didn't) The scripts and plugins in Xtns create a new image -- they're not tied to any existing image. The ones in the Image popup menu do things on the current image. *) What books on the gimp are recommended? Beginner and intermediate level books would be great. I learned a lot from Grokking the Gimp -- preview it at gimp-savvy.com. Stephen J. Baker wrote: Q: I'm trying to paint and nothing is happening - what did I do wrong? That gets my vote for the #1 question on the FAQ! It was definitely what kept me in xv or paintshop pro instead of gimp when I was getting started. A: Eeek! There are about 1e6 things that could be: * You are painting outside of the selection. And you may not realize this because the marching ants may not be shown for some reason. * You've picked some kind of 'do nothing' paint. * Your paint colour is the same as the background. * You are painting to a layer that's hidden. * You are painting to a layer that's rendered at 100% transparency. * Try hitting 'Layers/Anchor'. * Try hitting 'Layers/Layer-to-Image-Size'. The two causes I hit most often: * You are painting outside of the layer (because you have the wrong layer selected) * You are painting to a layer that somehow got preserve transparency set (which leads to a new FAQ: Why does that bit sometimes get set without my setting it?) ...and lots of others... I used to hit this problem even back before I knew about layers, when nothing was selected, and I still don't know what was causing it ... * Look - just save the image, restart GIMP and load it back in again - I'm too busy to figure it out. Ouch. (That doesn't necessarily solve it, though, since when you reload you may still end up on the wrong layer or whatever.) ...Akkana ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Colord emboss
Hogeweg, Erwin (IndSys, GE Interlogix) wrote: Hi, I want to create an image as if a text were 'embossed' in a colored sheet of paper... snipped Short answer: Bump Map (Filters-Map-Bump Map) Long Answer: 1. New image. 2. Add two layers a. Layer Paper Midtone gray (#88) or unsaturated color tint (say #88 for an unsaturated yellow) b. Layer Text Black on white 3. Blur Text layer slightly (approximately 5 pixels, starting value) 4. Make Paper Active layer 5. Filters-Map-Bump Map... 6. In dialog, Select Text layer for Bump Map: Parameter setting. 7. Use scroll bars to pan around Paper layer preview, until you locate text image 8. Experiment with other parameters 9. Hit OK when you've got it. Have fun. And remember, there's always more than one way to do it. Garry ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] FAQ answers
Thus spoke John Culleton The preferences I referred to are for PS output and include such items as: Encapsulated Postscript (my preference) Zero horizontal and vertical offset (my preference) Inches instead of pixels for dimensions (my preference) The Preferences dialog doesn't cover these details. I don't mind specifying PS output. It's these other details that have to be reset in the same way on every run. Hmmm. I guess there may be a bug (or feature, depending on your point of view) where file plug-ins don't maintain their last setting in the gimprc file. Also, the file-format specific file plug-ins are the place where preferences of this nature must be set. It's a trade off for how versatile plug-ins can be (supporting another format means dropping in another plug-in instead of recompiling all of GIMP). What probably needs to be addressed is how well (or even if) file plug-ins (which are kind of special plug-ins from a developers perspective) save their last set configurations. I haven't checked if there is a bug written against this issue. It is probably worth while to write such a bug report if there isn't one yet since it's a reasonable request and a useful feature for future releases. Of course, this feature may already exist for the PS file plug-in but its just not being used correctly. I haven't verified that possibility yet (I don't use the PS output format much). -- Michael J. Hammel | Outside of the killings, Washington has one of The Graphics Muse | the lowest crime rates in the country. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, D.C. http://www.graphics-muse.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: New Gimp FAQ: Call for questions
On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 03:28:17PM -0500, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what point is it better to use The GIMP for batch processing over Image Magick? For one, whenever you want to interactively adjust sth. ImageMagick is a blind flight, with gimp you can more easily change parameters, retry etc.. Also, Gimp might have that effect of the day you really need. In this case ImageMagick simply isn't an option. And the Gimp has _lots_ of effects ;) The same is true for any script or function that is available for the gimp but not ImageMagick. Last not least, ImageMagick can be a memory hog and almost always is extremely slow in everything. Gimp can be a lot faster, and when you have to process 20,000+ images that might save a lot of hours. nicer than Image Magick. I read from someone (jlbec on #gimp) that The GIMP hands saving as png much much better than Image Magick. so i would Well, we'd like to know in what respect ;) -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: New Gimp FAQ: Call for questions
GET ME OFF THIS LIST! And no, the unsubscribe-mail don't work. Tried it many times. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) To: GIMP Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: New Gimp FAQ: Call for questions On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 03:28:17PM -0500, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what point is it better to use The GIMP for batch processing over Image Magick? For one, whenever you want to interactively adjust sth. ImageMagick is a blind flight, with gimp you can more easily change parameters, retry etc.. Also, Gimp might have that effect of the day you really need. In this case ImageMagick simply isn't an option. And the Gimp has _lots_ of effects ;) The same is true for any script or function that is available for the gimp but not ImageMagick. Last not least, ImageMagick can be a memory hog and almost always is extremely slow in everything. Gimp can be a lot faster, and when you have to process 20,000+ images that might save a lot of hours. nicer than Image Magick. I read from someone (jlbec on #gimp) that The GIMP hands saving as png much much better than Image Magick. so i would Well, we'd like to know in what respect ;) -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] FAQ answers
Thus spoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! Here are some questions I have: *) Where can I find good gimp tutorials? Good is relative, but here are some pointers to get you started. http://www.graphics-muse.com/cgi/gmcat.pl?id=11 *) How close in functionality to PhotoShop is the gimp? You can do in GIMP most of what you can do in Photoshop. There are some caveats: Photoshop handles 16 bit color, Pantone and CMYK conversions - GIMP does not. Photoshop has a way to record your actions - GIMP only allows you to redo the last action (so far). GIMP has features Photoshop does not: Scripting Networked access Batch mode The trick is to expect your techniques to be similar between the two applications, but not identical. *) What versions of PhotoShop .PSD files are supported by the PhotoShop plug-in? Unknown. I guess I could read the code and find out, but I'm too lazy right now. It's the holidays. :-) *) How can I change the foreground color of some text to a pattern? The easiest way to do this is to start with text on it's own transparent layer. If you do so, then you can simply select Alpha to Selection in the Layers menu and do a Bucket Fill using a pattern instead of a color. If you don't have your text on a layer by itself like this, then you need to make a selection of the text. Selection techniques are many, and are likely to be one of your most valued skills as you get more involved in your artwork. *) What are layer masks and how do they work? They are cardboard cutouts that determine which part of the layer will actually be used. In the layer mask white areas designate areas of the layer that are visible (and/or combined with other layers) and black areas are masked out. To create a mask, just start painting in the layer mask with either black or white. Note that gray areas (places where pixels are mixed between black and white) in the mask make the corresponding pixels in the layer partially visible (aka partially transparent). *) How does the Xtns/Script-Fu menu differ from the Script-Fu pop-up menu? Huh? I'm not sure what the Script-Fu pop up menu is. *) Is it possible to align text along a curve in an image? If so, how is it done? It's done with a filter currently. See Xtns-ScriptFu-Logos-Text Circle This only works around a single arc, so it's not what you might expect, but it's a start. *) How can I find out the step-by-step process to make the logo effects in the Xtns/Script-Fu/Logos menu? I can see the resultant layer data, but have NO idea of how to do that myself. Read the code. Really, that's how pretty much everyone else learned. ScriptFu code is regular text that you can read. But it's a programming language. If you want to know how the techniques were discovered by the ScriptFU programmers, well, that's probably just experience. Lots of time fiddling with existing scripts or techniques to invent new ones. *) What does feathering mean? It means making the edges of a selection soft. In brief, it allows pixels within the feathered region to go from fully selected to not selected. If you feather a distance of 10 pixels for a circular selection then 5 pixels toward the inside of the selection will be fully selected and, as you move outward, the pixels are considered less selected. Being less selected is essentially like be more transparent. What this means in practice is that if you fill the selection (or cut it out) you get soft edges. In a fill of a feathered selection, the color flows from the selected color towards the existing colors in the layer. *) What books on the gimp are recommended? Beginner and intermediate level books would be great. Can't answer that. I have two published, so I'm a bit biased (though I think you can only actually get one of them these days). Carol's new web site has some listed (and the site design is rather nice - hope to see it go live soon!) - mmmaybe.gimp.org I think is the URL. *) Where can I find online resources/tutorials on creating animations with gimp? I think that link I gave earlier has some animation tutorial links on it. There aren't many tutorials on this subject yet. Thus spoke Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK here is my FAQ: How does one set defaults in Gimp for e.g., output formats? See File-Preferences. However, the default format is XCF which is GIMP's built in format to save layer information. To specify a different output format you either append the appropriate suffix to the filename (and let GIMP guess which format that means) or set the option menu to the format you want to use. Other defaults are configurable in the Preferences dialog. Hope that helps a little. -- Michael J. Hammel | The Graphics Muse | Women should put pictures of missing husbands [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on beer cans. http://www.graphics-muse.com ___