Re: [Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-04 Thread Steve Kinney
On 11/03/2012 11:28 PM, Daniel Smith wrote:

 Because (left out) a Vista machine means it's probably about
 five years old or so, meaning that it could possibly be filled, and
 or replace the drive as well. It's gonna go sometime soon. Just thoughts.
 And they're so cheap now.
 Dan

Ubuntu 10 has worked great for me but alas, Canonical has gone the
way of the dedicated touchscreen interface.  I will be bailing out
when the version I am using reaches end of life next year.  Can't
sit a very computer illiterate user in front of the Unity desktop,
and expect them to figure it out and use it without problems.  Can't
expect me to toss 20 years of reasonably efficient workflow habits
out the window either...

I have been very impressed with Mint - the other day I had occasion
to use the Live DVD in conjunction with a printer/scanner on a
random PC on a random office LAN, and the thing just worked all
around.

Running an OS that works for not against the user is a very
addictive thing.  Token on-topic reference:  The GIMP was the first
major gateway drug that started me down the path to a 100% Free
Software world.  Ubuntu stopped including the GIMP in its default
installation package, and that's another strike against Canonical...
sure it's stupidly easy to install, but dang it, GNU/Linux is
supposed to include the GIMP right out of the box, is all!

:o)


 On 11/3/12, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really have grown fond of avg's pc tuneup.
 Normally I in the past didn't use such utilities, but I
 tried (and paid!) for it once, and love it. Still use the
 free avg antivirus though.
 I would have recommended to upgrade to Win 7 and
 wipe the whole drive. Never really liked Vista that much.
 Seemed like only a little better than that old Longhorn
 beta there was going around for a while.
 But I would also just take at least a glance at the drive to
 see how much free space there is on it.
 Dan

 On 11/3/12, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 On 11/03/2012 09:02 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote:
 On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:22:52 -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:

 I would run a registry cleaner

 Don't. Just don't. At best, they do nothing, and at worst they screw up
 the
 machine (had to fix too many machines that registry cleaners and
 optimizers left in unusable state).

 The first thing a registry cleaner does - if it's a decent one like
 the Wise cleaner - is back up the existing registry files to a
 location where they won't be overwritten during the OS-native
 registry backup rotation.  Then it conducts a scan and removes
 orphaned keys that point to non-existent files and directories,
 redundant keys, etc.  In some cases, I have seen processes that
 access the registry frequently, i.e. complex application start-up
 routines - run 2x faster after cleaning.  Usually the result is not
 quite that impressive.

 In a hypothetical worst case where damage is done by the cleaning
 process - something I have never seen happen in a few hundred
 practical cases - the saved registry can be restored with a single
 command and, in effect, nothing happened at all.  Any problems
 that need repair are the same ones that were there before the
 registry cleaner was tried.

 Progressive registry bloat is a feature, not a bug.  It makes a
 computer with a Microsoft operating system appear to be getting old
 and slowing down, which is a Good Thing if you are selling
 computers or operating systems.  Not so good if you are the user who
 owns the machine in question.

 The best repair for any Microsoft operating system is to replace it
 with an operating system that works, or, failing that, reinstall the
 one that came with the machine.  But sometimes that's not an option,
 alas.

 :o/

 Steve



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[Gimp-user] (no subject)

2012-11-04 Thread Theuns Heydenrych
HI
I am using GIMP 2.8.2 and cant use FX-Foundry-Layer Effects-Drop
Shadow functionality, i keep getting this error.
Plug-In 'Drop Shadow' left image undo in inconsistent state, closing open
undo groups

I followed the Gimp tutorial http://gimp-tutorials.net/volks-logo-tutorial

Can anybody please advice, or help?

Operating System: Ubuntu 12.04
Gimp Version 2.8.2

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Re: [Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-04 Thread Olivier
2012/11/4 Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net


 Ubuntu 10 has worked great for me but alas, Canonical has gone the
 way of the dedicated touchscreen interface.  I will be bailing out
 when the version I am using reaches end of life next year.  Can't
 sit a very computer illiterate user in front of the Unity desktop,
 and expect them to figure it out and use it without problems.  Can't
 expect me to toss 20 years of reasonably efficient workflow habits
 out the window either...

 You don't need to do that. Using Ubuntu 12.04 with the look and feel of
Ubuntu 10.04 is rather easy. Of course, it needs a little work, but nothing
complicated. I'm using that on all my computers and on all the computers I
manage. The major visible differences is that I cannot use any more the
theme I liked (but probably still a little more work probably would do
that, if it was so important), and the System global menu is now hidden in
the Applications menu.

I did not yet try version 12.10, and Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10 seems
promising, but it uses Gnome 3, which some people consider as much
offending as Unity...

I have been very impressed with Mint - the other day I had occasion
 to use the Live DVD in conjunction with a printer/scanner on a
 random PC on a random office LAN, and the thing just worked all
 around.

 Mint is very pleasant and refreshing indeed, and I'll shift to it if
combining Ubuntu 12.10 with Gnome 2 is impossible.


 Running an OS that works for not against the user is a very
 addictive thing.  Token on-topic reference:  The GIMP was the first
 major gateway drug that started me down the path to a 100% Free
 Software world.  Ubuntu stopped including the GIMP in its default
 installation package, and that's another strike against Canonical...
 sure it's stupidly easy to install, but dang it, GNU/Linux is
 supposed to include the GIMP right out of the box, is all!

 :o)


The only problem, in my opinion, is that Ubuntu still insists on fitting on
a CD instead of a DVD, for reasons I don't know.

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[Gimp-user] Tool switching and preset troubles

2012-11-04 Thread MadMinstrel
Hi. I've been doing some painting and texturing with gimp recently and it's 
working out nicely for me. 

However, I don't understand how to switch tools correctly. It seems tool 
presets are the highest level since they can remember brush size, brush alpha, 
tool settings, blend type and so on. It seems like they're the way to go for 
tool switching. 

However, the keyboard shortcuts are only for switching /tools/. So each time I 
go from brush to eraser i have to spend time adjusting the size and the brush 
at minimum. Is there a way to assign keys to presets instead of tools?

Also two other related questions:
How can I either get rid of all the brush, tool, dynamic and palette presets 
that are uneditable? They're driving me nuts, just making my own presets 
difficult to find, and if I select one of them, I can't edit it. Alternatively, 
making them editable (and therefore deletable from the UI) would work too.

How can I make the presets auto-save every change I make after that preset was 
selected? Alternatively, can I assign a shortcut to save the last used preset?

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Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)

2012-11-04 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Theuns,

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:21:03 +0200
Theuns Heydenrych theunsheydenr...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI
 I am using GIMP 2.8.2 and cant use FX-Foundry-Layer Effects-Drop
 Shadow functionality, i keep getting this error.
 Plug-In 'Drop Shadow' left image undo in inconsistent state, closing open
 undo groups
 
 I followed the Gimp tutorial http://gimp-tutorials.net/volks-logo-tutorial
 

I don't see this effect in FX-Foundry (which does not exist). I see it in
Filters - Light and Shadow - Drop Shadow. And from my experiments with a
image with transparency it works fine here on Mageia Linux 2 x86-64 with
gimp-2.8.2-1.1.mga2 .

 Can anybody please advice, or help?
 

Can you provide an .xcf file that reproduces the problem before the effect is
applied? You can use https://www.dropbox.com/ or whatever to upload it and
share it.

 Operating System: Ubuntu 12.04
 Gimp Version 2.8.2
 

Should be OK.

 Thank You

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: [Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-04 Thread Daniel Smith
Wow, thanks to both (all) of you!
I'll have to taste the mint, so to speak.
I was running Ubuntu 11 till my latest machinicide.
I thought though when I installed it that Linux has come
incredibly far in ease of use since when I used to use it
back in the old Red Hat 4, 7 etc command line startup days.
Of course, I just did it with an ubuntu cd I bought off of ebay for 4 bucks.
So no size worries for me.
But I did notice when I was searching that error above, or different
combinations of its terms included, that it seemed cross-OS, that
different #s (gmem.c: 165, 135, etc)  of it occurred in various linux
and windows versions that people had reported bugs or complained of.
Except for, notably, on Macs. Don't know fer sure about that though.
On second search through it seemed a lot had to do with corrupted
or unmanageably large conversion files etc. crashing memory.
This is a very similar error:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/846389
Dan

On 11/4/12, Olivier oleca...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/4 Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net


 Ubuntu 10 has worked great for me but alas, Canonical has gone the
 way of the dedicated touchscreen interface.  I will be bailing out
 when the version I am using reaches end of life next year.  Can't
 sit a very computer illiterate user in front of the Unity desktop,
 and expect them to figure it out and use it without problems.  Can't
 expect me to toss 20 years of reasonably efficient workflow habits
 out the window either...

 You don't need to do that. Using Ubuntu 12.04 with the look and feel of
 Ubuntu 10.04 is rather easy. Of course, it needs a little work, but nothing
 complicated. I'm using that on all my computers and on all the computers I
 manage. The major visible differences is that I cannot use any more the
 theme I liked (but probably still a little more work probably would do
 that, if it was so important), and the System global menu is now hidden in
 the Applications menu.

 I did not yet try version 12.10, and Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10 seems
 promising, but it uses Gnome 3, which some people consider as much
 offending as Unity...

 I have been very impressed with Mint - the other day I had occasion
 to use the Live DVD in conjunction with a printer/scanner on a
 random PC on a random office LAN, and the thing just worked all
 around.

 Mint is very pleasant and refreshing indeed, and I'll shift to it if
 combining Ubuntu 12.10 with Gnome 2 is impossible.


 Running an OS that works for not against the user is a very
 addictive thing.  Token on-topic reference:  The GIMP was the first
 major gateway drug that started me down the path to a 100% Free
 Software world.  Ubuntu stopped including the GIMP in its default
 installation package, and that's another strike against Canonical...
 sure it's stupidly easy to install, but dang it, GNU/Linux is
 supposed to include the GIMP right out of the box, is all!

 :o)


 The only problem, in my opinion, is that Ubuntu still insists on fitting on
 a CD instead of a DVD, for reasons I don't know.

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[Gimp-user] double exposure

2012-11-04 Thread jenn golden
Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect?  I
can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics.  But was not sure
if you can create the same digitally??

Thank you!
Jenn
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Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure

2012-11-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag

If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways to do 
this in GIMP.  But all of them have one thing in common - you need to import 
both source images as separate layers in the same image window.

From that point you can:
1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither one 
precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close)
2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer mask) to 
fade the edges/transition between them.

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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500
From: ellimae...@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect?  I can 
do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics.  But was not sure if you 
can create the same digitally??
Thank you!

Jenn

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Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure

2012-11-04 Thread Tobias Lunte

Hello,

afaik, the Screen blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a 
double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the two 
photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when you 
actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust the 
values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping, so 
usually you don't loose all that much information.


bw,
Tobl



Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:
If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways 
to do this in GIMP.  But all of them have one thing in common - you 
need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image 
window.


From that point you can:
1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither 
one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close)
2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer 
mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.


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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500
From: ellimae...@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? 
 I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics.  But was 
not sure if you can create the same digitally??


Thank you!
Jenn

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[Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-04 Thread Sleepingbeautiie
On 04.11.2012 03:00, Sleepingbeautiie wrote:

 I have no idea... and running out of memory? ._. That's... a bad
 thing, isn't it?

 I'm not working on any images - I haven't been able to access GIMP
 for three, four days, now, so...

Patterns might be another cause for this problem. Fonts, too.

 I mean, I'll try and follow what
 Steve said, but.. then again I might just save my brushes into a
 folder and then revert back to 2.6 to see if that works.

You should move any brushes that didn't come with GIMP itself.
If you've done this already, did anything change?

Note that blindly (re-)installing any version of GIMP won't solve the 
problem if anything you have added is causing this.

Well, yeah, I have moved all brushes that never came with gimp into an entirely 
diff. folder, so... I mean, what do you think? Would it work if, say, I 
uninstalled GIMP entirely, waited about a month or two (I can cope) and then 
try again?

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[Gimp-user] text tool chanes text properties when i paste over old text content

2012-11-04 Thread realbezo
Thanks for the tip, at least i have that feature back with setting my gimp to 
Single Window Mode from Windows menu. But it made my workspace area smaller, i 
got used to work with floating window mode. 
I don't know if it is a bug but it is annoying.
Is this the official forum of gimp and where can i report a bug or request 
something about gimp, because the developer team do not seem to be around, or 
they have so  much work to do in their daily life...
Anyway, thanks for your help...


Hello,

I don't know the sourcecode and therefore cannot be sure about this, but 
here's what I've concluded from observation:
Text in GIMP saves it's properties in two different places: One set of 
properties that is the standard for the entire text layer and then the 
modified parameters for every letter you change. Unfortunately, by using 
the floating menu you can only change the modified parameters, even if 
you have the entire text selected. So when you delete the entire text 
and start entering a new one (that's also what happens if you selected 
the entire text and start tipping), it uses the layer-wide standard 
properties.
To change those, you have to change them in the tool properties of the 
text tool instead of the floating menu.
Maybe it'd be worth a bug report if there isn't one, requesting to alter 
the layer-wide properties when the entire text is selected.

bw,
Tobl



Am 02.11.2012 04:00, schrieb realbezo:
 Hi, i switched gimp 2.6 to 2.8 and new text tool behaves strangely, as i 
 remember in gimp 2.6 when i try to change text content with selecting old 
 text and pasting new text i could use same text size and same font with my 
 old text without doing anything but now in the gim 2.8 whenever i try to 
 change content of a text layer i need to choose again font and text size 
 from toolbox options, but why do i have to do this, i have a text placed on 
 my image with a certain font and certain font size and i just want to alter 
 my text conten not the size of text or font , it changes automatically to 
 back text size and font whatever i used last  time in another work.

 summary: i want to change my text content without setting my font and font 
 size properties, i want to use my text layers old properties, please give 
 the feature back...



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Re: [Gimp-user] text tool chanes text properties when i paste over old text content

2012-11-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, realbezo wrote:

 Is this the official forum of gimp

The gimpusers.com gate to the mailing list? No, it's not.

 and where can i report a bug or request something about gimp

http://www.gimp.org/bugs/

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure

2012-11-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag

Generally speaking, in terms of the resulting brightness when you blend two 
layers, Addition  Screen  Lighten Only.

The online GIMP manual explains layer blending modes in more detail (albeit not 
in the same order they are shown in actual GIMP 2.8's dropdown menu of blending 
modes :\  )

http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-concepts-layer-modes.html

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Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:18:39 +0100
From: tobias.lu...@hfg-gmuend.de
To: ellimae...@gmail.com
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure


  

  
  
Hello,



afaik, the Screen blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a
double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the
two photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when
you actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust
the values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping,
so usually you don't loose all that much information.



bw,

Tobl







Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard
  Gitschlag:



  
  
If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty
different ways to do this in GIMP.  But all of them have one
thing in common - you need to import both source images as
separate layers in the same image window.



From that point you can:

1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition
(neither one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but
they're close)

2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a
layer mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.



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Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.






  Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500

  From: ellimae...@gmail.com

  To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org

  Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

  

  Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure
  effect?  I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking
  pics.  But was not sure if you can create the same digitally??
  

  
  Thank you!

Jenn
  

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