Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
On 12/22/2016 05:15 PM, Rick Strong wrote:
> Nice to have options.
>
> {8>)
Free Software FTW!
I think I got lucky when I adopted the GIMP - the user base and
contributed / subsidized developer hours have grown and grown, and the
toolkit with it. Now the Internet is fairly bristling with howto docs
and video video videos. When 3.x rolls out, the GIMP will be quite
arguably "the best bitmap image editor in the world."
Unless the tear-off menu glitch remains. Then it will suck.
:o)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
Nice to have options.
{8>)
-Original Message-
From: Steve Kinney
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:53 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
On 12/22/2016 11:55 AM, Rick Strong wrote:
Ah, the Gradients Dialog was not up there with the Layers, Channels,
Paths, etc. It is now and now I can see what you are talking about.
While GIMP has it’s weirdnesses, it’s UI is superior to the current
Photoshop CC “flat & grey” look that’s stricktly out of the 1980s. AND
GIMP fits on my screen. Plus, GIMP users are majorly helpful.
I finally found a GIMP theme that presents a neutral gray "look"
suitable for editing images against without introducing perceptual bias,
that does not also present useability issues re icon and menu entries
etc. It's called Tactile; I don't find it in a quick web search ATM,
but I do recall it was part of a big bundle of themes.
Sometimes when an image is going into a context where I know the
background color that will surround it, I reset the canvas padding color
to match that. This provides "best obtainable" perceptual results and
avoids possible surprises i.e. unintended color matching with the
background against which the image will be seen.
:o)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
On 12/22/2016 11:55 AM, Rick Strong wrote: > Ah, the Gradients Dialog was not up there with the Layers, Channels, Paths, > etc. It is now and now I can see what you are talking about. > > While GIMP has it’s weirdnesses, it’s UI is superior to the current Photoshop > CC “flat & grey” look that’s stricktly out of the 1980s. AND GIMP fits on my > screen. Plus, GIMP users are majorly helpful. I finally found a GIMP theme that presents a neutral gray "look" suitable for editing images against without introducing perceptual bias, that does not also present useability issues re icon and menu entries etc. It's called Tactile; I don't find it in a quick web search ATM, but I do recall it was part of a big bundle of themes. Sometimes when an image is going into a context where I know the background color that will surround it, I reset the canvas padding color to match that. This provides "best obtainable" perceptual results and avoids possible surprises i.e. unintended color matching with the background against which the image will be seen. :o) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
Ah, the Gradients Dialog was not up there with the Layers, Channels, Paths, etc. It is now and now I can see what you are talking about. While GIMP has it’s weirdnesses, it’s UI is superior to the current Photoshop CC “flat & grey” look that’s stricktly out of the 1980s. AND GIMP fits on my screen. Plus, GIMP users are majorly helpful. Thank you, Rick S. From: Mark Morin Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:13 PM To: Rick Strong ; Richard ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? notice the list of gradients on the right hand panel left click on the name of the gradient you want to duplicate (don't "open" the gradient) one of the icons on the bottom is duplicate. Alternatively, right click on the name of the gradient and select duplicate. hopefully the screenshot comes through On 12/21/2016 10:55 PM, Rick Strong wrote: Richard, I hope the screen shot comes through to show you what I get when I R-ckick on the gradient in the editor. Nothing happens when I R-click on the icon in the LH panel. Rick S. From: Richard Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:55 PM To: Rick Strong ; Mark Morin ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? Then somebody's missing something, and I don't believe it's me... On the Gradient Editor there are buttons to save the current settings, or zoom the gradient display shown in the box. It does not include a command to duplicate the gradient. On your Gradients palette, there should be a row of five icons at the bottom -- Edit, New, Duplicate, Delete, and Refresh. Likewise, right-clicking on a specific gradient (or checking the arrow menu at the upper-right) should reveal a context menu of similar options. Lastly, if you go to Edit > Preferences and look at the Folders section, you should have one or two entries for the Gradients folder (typically under your user path and program path) and at least one of them should be flagged as "writable". -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. -- From: Rick Strong mailto:rnstr...@primus.ca Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 7:23 PM To: Richard; Mark Morin; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? "...if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go to the Gradients list and duplicate it from there." No can do either way. Rick S From: gimp-user-list mailto:gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org on behalf of Mark Morin mailto:mdmp...@gwi.net Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:17 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? right click on the gradient you want to copy select "duplicate gradient" an editable copy of that gradient will open. On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 > I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that > I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the > gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a > "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. > > I must be missing something. > > Rick S. > > -Original Message----- From: PierUgo > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the >>> gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : >>> http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp Screenshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot >>> but I can't do any modification. >>> >>> When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; >>> drag >>> : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. >>> >>> I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably >>> miss >>> something in the Gimp usage itself. >>> >>> Gimp 2.18 >>> >>> Any help appreciated >> >> The standard Gimp gradients
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
notice the list of gradients on the right hand panel left click on the name of the gradient you want to duplicate (don't "open" the gradient) one of the icons on the bottom is duplicate. Alternatively, right click on the name of the gradient and select duplicate. hopefully the screenshot comes through On 12/21/2016 10:55 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > Richard, > > I hope the screen shot comes through to show you what I get when I > R-ckick on the gradient in the editor. Nothing happens when I R-click > on the icon in the LH panel. > > Rick S. > > *From:* Richard <mailto:strata_ran...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:55 PM > *To:* Rick Strong <mailto:rnstr...@primus.ca> ; Mark Morin > <mailto:mdmp...@gwi.net> ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org > <mailto:gimp-user-list@gnome.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > > Then somebody's missing something, and I don't believe it's me... > > > On the Gradient Editor there are buttons to save the current settings, > or zoom the gradient display shown in the box. It does not include a > command to duplicate the gradient. > > > > On your Gradients palette, there should be a row of five icons at the > bottom -- Edit, New, Duplicate, Delete, and Refresh. Likewise, > right-clicking on a specific gradient (or checking the arrow menu at > the upper-right) should reveal a context menu of similar options. > > > > Lastly, if you go to Edit > Preferences and look at the Folders > section, you should have one or two entries for the Gradients folder > (typically under your user path and program path) and at least one of > them should be flagged as "writable". > > > -- Stratadrake > strata_ran...@hotmail.com > > Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. > > > ------------ > *From:* Rick Strong <rnstr...@primus.ca> > *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2016 7:23 PM > *To:* Richard; Mark Morin; gimp-user-list@gnome.org > *Subject:* Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > "...if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go > to the > Gradients list and duplicate it from there." > > No can do either way. > > Rick S > > ____ > From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of Mark > Morin <mdmp...@gwi.net> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:17 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > right click on the gradient you want to copy > > select "duplicate gradient" > > an editable copy of that gradient will open. > > > > On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > > WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 > > I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that > > I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the > > gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a > > "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. > > > > I must be missing something. > > > > Rick S. > > > > -Original Message- From: PierUgo > > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM > > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > > > Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the > >>> gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : > >>> http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp > <http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> > > Screenshot <http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> > prntscr.com > Captured with Lightshot > > > [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp > <http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]%3Chttp://prntscr.com/dkv3rp>> > > Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> > <http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> > > Screenshot <http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> > prntscr.com > Captured with Lightshot > > > prntscr.com > Captured with Lightshot > > > >>> but I can't do any modification. > >>> > >>> When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; > >>> drag > >>> : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. > >>> > >>> I have the
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
Richard, I hope the screen shot comes through to show you what I get when I R-ckick on the gradient in the editor. Nothing happens when I R-click on the icon in the LH panel. Rick S. From: Richard Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:55 PM To: Rick Strong ; Mark Morin ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? Then somebody's missing something, and I don't believe it's me... On the Gradient Editor there are buttons to save the current settings, or zoom the gradient display shown in the box. It does not include a command to duplicate the gradient. On your Gradients palette, there should be a row of five icons at the bottom -- Edit, New, Duplicate, Delete, and Refresh. Likewise, right-clicking on a specific gradient (or checking the arrow menu at the upper-right) should reveal a context menu of similar options. Lastly, if you go to Edit > Preferences and look at the Folders section, you should have one or two entries for the Gradients folder (typically under your user path and program path) and at least one of them should be flagged as "writable". -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. From: Rick Strong <rnstr...@primus.ca> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 7:23 PM To: Richard; Mark Morin; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? "...if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go to the Gradients list and duplicate it from there." No can do either way. Rick S From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of Mark Morin <mdmp...@gwi.net> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:17 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? right click on the gradient you want to copy select "duplicate gradient" an editable copy of that gradient will open. On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 > I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that > I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the > gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a > "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. > > I must be missing something. > > Rick S. > > -Original Message- From: PierUgo > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the >>> gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : >>> http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp Screenshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot >>> but I can't do any modification. >>> >>> When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; >>> drag >>> : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. >>> >>> I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably >>> miss >>> something in the Gimp usage itself. >>> >>> Gimp 2.18 >>> >>> Any help appreciated >> >> The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so >> you can not >> edit them , see: >> >> Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients >> >> Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. >> That saves >> to your Gimp profile. >> >> example attached. >> >> rich: www.gimp-forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net> Gimp-Forum.net www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 634 posts in 119 threads. We currently have 53 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, cimi9 Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> Gimp-Forum.net www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 634 posts in 119 threads. We currently have 53 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, cimi9 www.gimp-forum.net Gimp-Forum.net www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 634 posts in 119 threads. We currently have 53 members registered. Please welcome
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
Then somebody's missing something, and I don't believe it's me... On the Gradient Editor there are buttons to save the current settings, or zoom the gradient display shown in the box. It does not include a command to duplicate the gradient. On your Gradients palette, there should be a row of five icons at the bottom -- Edit, New, Duplicate, Delete, and Refresh. Likewise, right-clicking on a specific gradient (or checking the arrow menu at the upper-right) should reveal a context menu of similar options. Lastly, if you go to Edit > Preferences and look at the Folders section, you should have one or two entries for the Gradients folder (typically under your user path and program path) and at least one of them should be flagged as "writable". -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. From: Rick Strong <rnstr...@primus.ca> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 7:23 PM To: Richard; Mark Morin; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? "...if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go to the Gradients list and duplicate it from there." No can do either way. Rick S From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of Mark Morin <mdmp...@gwi.net> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:17 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? right click on the gradient you want to copy select "duplicate gradient" an editable copy of that gradient will open. On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 > I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that > I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the > gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a > "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. > > I must be missing something. > > Rick S. > > -Original Message- From: PierUgo > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the >>> gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : >>> http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot >>> but I can't do any modification. >>> >>> When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; >>> drag >>> : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. >>> >>> I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably >>> miss >>> something in the Gimp usage itself. >>> >>> Gimp 2.18 >>> >>> Any help appreciated >> >> The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so >> you can not >> edit them , see: >> >> Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients >> >> Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. >> That saves >> to your Gimp profile. >> >> example attached. >> >> rich: www.gimp-forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net> Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 634 posts in 119 threads. We currently have 53 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, cimi9 Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 634 posts in 119 threads. We currently have 53 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, cimi9 www.gimp-forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net> Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 634 posts in 119 threads. We currently have 53 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, cimi9 Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 630 posts
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
"...if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go to the Gradients list and duplicate it from there." No can do either way. Rick S -Original Message- From: Richard Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:15 PM To: Mark Morin ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? Does it seem like this question comes up on a monthly basis? GIMP could REALLY use some ability to make ad-hoc edits to its otherwise ready-only assets (gradients and brush dynamics, vector brushes, etc.). Requiring users to duplicate one of these before they're allowed to change any of those settings is one reason I dumped literally ALL of the preset brush dynamics from my GIMP installation. And, I'd wager, it's probably one of many reasons why GIMP 2.8 moved 'brush size' out of the brush editor and into the tool options. But -- (less rant, more on the topic, I agree) -- if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go to the Gradients list and duplicate it from there. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of Mark Morin <mdmp...@gwi.net> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:17 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? right click on the gradient you want to copy select "duplicate gradient" an editable copy of that gradient will open. On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. I must be missing something. Rick S. -Original Message- From: PierUgo Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : Hi, I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot but I can't do any modification. When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; drag : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably miss something in the Gimp usage itself. Gimp 2.18 Any help appreciated The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so you can not edit them , see: Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. That saves to your Gimp profile. example attached. rich: www.gimp-forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net> Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 630 posts in 118 threads. We currently have 52 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, strifemit Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/369/original/edit-gradient.jpg That solved my problem, thanks. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list gimp-user-list Info Page - GNOME Mail Services<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the gimp-user-list Archives. Using gimp-user-list: To post a message to all the list ... List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list The gimp-user-list Archives - GNOME<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org GNOME.org. Home; Mailing Lists; List Archives; Search ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list gimp-user-list Info Page - GNOME Mail Services<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the gimp-user-list Archives. Using gimp-user-list: To post a message to all the list ... List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list The gimp-user-list Archives - GNOME<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org GNOME
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
Does it seem like this question comes up on a monthly basis? GIMP could REALLY use some ability to make ad-hoc edits to its otherwise ready-only assets (gradients and brush dynamics, vector brushes, etc.). Requiring users to duplicate one of these before they're allowed to change any of those settings is one reason I dumped literally ALL of the preset brush dynamics from my GIMP installation. And, I'd wager, it's probably one of many reasons why GIMP 2.8 moved 'brush size' out of the brush editor and into the tool options. But -- (less rant, more on the topic, I agree) -- if you can't duplicate something from the Gradient editor then go to the Gradients list and duplicate it from there. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of Mark Morin <mdmp...@gwi.net> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:17 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? right click on the gradient you want to copy select "duplicate gradient" an editable copy of that gradient will open. On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 > I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that > I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the > gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a > "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. > > I must be missing something. > > Rick S. > > -Original Message- From: PierUgo > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the >>> gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : >>> http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp [http://image.prntscr.com/image/9f4724d7f8644df3a70a2f314debd2d8.png]<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> Screenshot<http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp> prntscr.com Captured with Lightshot >>> but I can't do any modification. >>> >>> When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; >>> drag >>> : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. >>> >>> I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably >>> miss >>> something in the Gimp usage itself. >>> >>> Gimp 2.18 >>> >>> Any help appreciated >> >> The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so >> you can not >> edit them , see: >> >> Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients >> >> Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. >> That saves >> to your Gimp profile. >> >> example attached. >> >> rich: www.gimp-forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net> Gimp-Forum.net<http://www.gimp-forum.net/> www.gimp-forum.net Board Statistics: Our members have made a total of 630 posts in 118 threads. We currently have 52 members registered. Please welcome our newest member, strifemit >> >> Attachments: >> * >> http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/369/original/edit-gradient.jpg >> > > That solved my problem, thanks. > > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list gimp-user-list Info Page - GNOME Mail Services<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the gimp-user-list Archives. Using gimp-user-list: To post a message to all the list ... > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list The gimp-user-list Archives - GNOME<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org GNOME.org. Home; Mailing Lists; List Archives; Search > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list gimp-user-list Info Page - GNOME Mail Services<https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list> mail.gnome.org To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the gimp-user-list Archives. Using gimp-user-list: To post a message to all the list ... > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
right click on the gradient you want to copy select "duplicate gradient" an editable copy of that gradient will open. On 12/18/2016 5:49 PM, Rick Strong wrote: > WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 > I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that > I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the > gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a > "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. > > I must be missing something. > > Rick S. > > -Original Message- From: PierUgo > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? > > Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the >>> gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : >>> http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp >>> but I can't do any modification. >>> >>> When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; >>> drag >>> : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. >>> >>> I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably >>> miss >>> something in the Gimp usage itself. >>> >>> Gimp 2.18 >>> >>> Any help appreciated >> >> The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so >> you can not >> edit them , see: >> >> Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients >> >> Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. >> That saves >> to your Gimp profile. >> >> example attached. >> >> rich: www.gimp-forum.net >> >> Attachments: >> * >> http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/369/original/edit-gradient.jpg >> > > That solved my problem, thanks. > > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
WIN 7 64 bit; V. 2.8.16 I can't find any way to save the non-writable gradient to a copy that I can edit. I've got the "Edit Gradient" tab up, and can see the gradient, but there is no button/option to "save-as". There is a "save" button, but that only saves that same gradient. I must be missing something. Rick S. -Original Message- From: PierUgo Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:27 PM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ? Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : Hi, I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp but I can't do any modification. When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; drag : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably miss something in the Gimp usage itself. Gimp 2.18 Any help appreciated The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so you can not edit them , see: Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. That saves to your Gimp profile. example attached. rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/369/original/edit-gradient.jpg That solved my problem, thanks. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gradient tool : how to modify the gradient ?
Le 18/12/2016 à 14:25, rich2005 a écrit : Hi, I'm trying to use the gradient tool, but I would like to modify the gradient law. I guess that the modification takes place here : http://prntscr.com/dkv3rp but I can't do any modification. When hovering the black and white triangle it says "click : select; drag : move.." etc, but these triangles don't react to any mouse action. I have the same issue either on macOS or on Windows, so I probably miss something in the Gimp usage itself. Gimp 2.18 Any help appreciated The standard Gimp gradients are normally marked as non-writable so you can not edit them , see: Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Gradients Best leave it that way and duplicate the gradient you want to edit. That saves to your Gimp profile. example attached. rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/369/original/edit-gradient.jpg That solved my problem, thanks. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
On the one hand, using the Gradient Editor you can assign individual nodes to reference the foreground or background color instead of using a fixed color (right click a node handle and select the Color Type), however something like the Tube Red is actually a bit more complicated than a FG/BG fade (it uses more than two colors) so no, you can't just change its color to something else - you'd have to apply a consistent change the hue across like five nodes. It's certainly doable, it just isn't as simple as it looks. :( -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:05:33 -0400 From: etter...@gmail.com To: rc...@pcug.org.au CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors before using the gradient. On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote: Rectangular SelectionBlend tool Gradient then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG BG Colors for example? In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG -- Owen -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting. I don't seem to have the Gradient Editor. I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6. But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level. Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it. Helen On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote: On the one hand, using the Gradient Editor you can assign individual nodes to reference the foreground or background color instead of using a fixed color (right click a node handle and select the Color Type), however something like the Tube Red is actually a bit more complicated than a FG/BG fade (it uses more than two colors) so no, you can't just change its color to something else - you'd have to apply a consistent change the hue across like five nodes. It's certainly doable, it just isn't as simple as it looks. :( -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. -- Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:05:33 -0400 From: etter...@gmail.com To: rc...@pcug.org.au CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors before using the gradient. On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote: Rectangular SelectionBlend tool Gradient then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG BG Colors for example? In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG -- Owen -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
But the Gradient Editor has been around pretty much forever, its window is just not loaded into the toolboxes by default. Try double-clicking a gradient from the Gradients dialog (on its icon/preview, not its name), this should bring up the Gradient Editor. Advance warning: You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the Duplicate button on a desired gradient before you go into editing mode. Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool From: etter...@gmail.com To: strata_ran...@hotmail.com CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting. I don't seem to have the Gradient Editor. I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6. But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level. Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it. Helen -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
On 03/25/2013 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote: Advance warning: You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the Duplicate button on a desired gradient before you go into editing mode. Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode. That's a feature, not a bug. The default gradients live in a directory shard by all users on a system, so having to work on copies that belong to your user account prevents accidental sabotage of other users. The same applies to brushes and other shared resources. Redundant on a single user desktop, but there's it. :o) Steve ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote: But the Gradient Editor has been around pretty much forever, its window is just not loaded into the toolboxes by default. Try double-clicking a gradient from the Gradients dialog (on its icon/preview, not its name), this should bring up the Gradient Editor. Nope. Doesn't. I had already tried that actually, and also tried the four methods described on the web page (which I happily bookmarked ). I don't seem to have that edit feature. I did find that the Land and Sea gradient, in conical shape, does something close to what I'm trying to do. Helen GIMP 2.6 on Suse Linux -- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool From: etter...@gmail.com To: strata_ran...@hotmail.com CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org I appreciate the responses, which led me to experimenting. I don't seem to have the Gradient Editor. I guess it's time to upgrade from gimp 2.6. But even if I did have the Editor, I can see that it's beyond my level. Thanks all -- I'll keep playing with it. Helen -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
I mean that the fact you can't make any edits (even unsaved edits) to things like gradients or brush dynamics is the flaw. I know the reason for it, but the end-to-end result is just not very convenient on the user -- brush dynamics especially (I actually removed the default dynamics folder from my GIMP preferences entirely; when I want brush dynamics, I NEED the ability to make arbitrary edits to them!) and the way 2.8 made them an official resource type really shoved it into the spotlight. Not to stray too far into that topic though -- been there, done that. (https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2012-May/msg00148.html) -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:15:59 -0400 From: ad...@pilobilus.net To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool On 03/25/2013 10:03 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote: Advance warning: You can't edit the preset gradients (minor design flaw common to all GIMP resources, really), you have to hit the Duplicate button on a desired gradient before you go into editing mode. Otherwise the editor will be in read-only mode. That's a feature, not a bug. The default gradients live in a directory shard by all users on a system, so having to work on copies that belong to your user account prevents accidental sabotage of other users. The same applies to brushes and other shared resources. Redundant on a single user desktop, but there's it. :o) Steve ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors before using the gradient. On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote: Rectangular SelectionBlend tool Gradient then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG BG Colors for example? In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG -- Owen -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
Rectangular SelectionBlend tool Gradient then pick oh, maybe Burning Transparency for example, or Tube Red -- Is there any way to choose the colors for those gradients? To make them FG BG Colors for example? In the Blend Tool options, you can set the gradient to FG to BG -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient tool
On 03/24/2013 11:05 PM, Helen wrote: Thanks, yes, I've found that one, and it works to fill an entire selection. But I like the 3-d effects of, for example, the Tube Red. The sharp crisp color and the sense of depth, but not the red. I guess there's no way to turn it green and blue w/o loosing the sense of depth that it gives. I can go to color balance, or to various ways to color it after I've used it, but all those ways cancel out the depth effect. So I guess I'd have to be able to choose the colors before using the gradient. You can make your own gradients (copy an existing one and edit it if you need something close): http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-gradient-dialog.html#gimp-gradient-editor-dialog (an undocumented feature (discussed here not so long ago) of this dialog is that you can drop colors on it...: on end point handles (black triangles) to change the colors for that endpoint, and on the display, to add a new endpoint with that color on both sides. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
