RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De -Original Message- On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are on wiev on the danish costume museum. http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/index.html Only danish i am afraid, but look further down under the pictures of the costume, there are smaller pictures to click and they will appear besides the photo of the costume on top. Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in Have fun! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
IIRC, it is the one that Janet Arnold talks about in the volume of Patterns of Fashion that covers the 18th century. She describes it as a travelling costume I believe. Someone's whose book is handy will have to confirm it for me however, since my books are still in boxes. Cheers, Danielle At 02:41 AM 10/23/2007, you wrote: Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De -Original Message- On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are on wiev on the danish costume museum. http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/index.html Only danish i am afraid, but look further down under the pictures of the costume, there are smaller pictures to click and they will appear besides the photo of the costume on top. Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in Have fun! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
At 09:16 23/10/2007, you wrote: IIRC, it is the one that Janet Arnold talks about in the volume of Patterns of Fashion that covers the 18th century. She describes it as a travelling costume I believe. Someone's whose book is handy will have to confirm it for me however, since my books are still in boxes. Cheers, Danielle At 02:41 AM 10/23/2007, you wrote: Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De It is not the same costume, but one of several that are shown on the Danish costume site. But yes, it is called a travelling costume in the Janet Arnold book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
According to the site, this is a morning toilette ensemble. For recieving visitors while getting dressed and having hair done. Tania Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:16 23/10/2007, you wrote: IIRC, it is the one that Janet Arnold talks about in the volume of Patterns of Fashion that covers the 18th century. She describes it as a travelling costume I believe. Someone's whose book is handy will have to confirm it for me however, since my books are still in boxes. Cheers, Danielle At 02:41 AM 10/23/2007, you wrote: Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De It is not the same costume, but one of several that are shown on the Danish costume site. But yes, it is called a travelling costume in the Janet Arnold book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Vendor: Threads in Time
Not heard of them, but I can supply the undergarment she will need. Pretty in peach silk even. Only hitch is fitting. ;-) Kathy It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. -Irish proverb Use what talent you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best. - Henry van Dyke Pride makes us do things well, but it is love, that makes us do them to perfection. -H. Jackson Brown I said I'd check with h-costume see if anyone's bought from them. We hope to find out pretty quick if anyone's had quality, delivery or payment issues with the vendor. snip Hi Cin, I was looking around online today and found the following page: http://threadsintime.net/id1.html snip Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Interesting 1890s Group Photo
Maybe contacting churches in this area would help. They may have kept a copy of the photo for their archives. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Farmer Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:44 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Interesting 1890s Group Photo Oh, yeah ... Quoting Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: F. I don't know if this is a ghost part of the photo or a blur. It is of a man on a horse. G. I am not sure if this is two ladies or one lady who moved while the photo was taken. Folks were probably moving. General exposure times were a couple of minutes. susan (who does Genealogy and collects Old Photos in her Copious Amounts of Spare Time!) - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Vendor: Threads in Time
First time I heard of them. How authentic is she wanting? Most of the costume side is a basic that can be upgrade. The silver satin looks more like something that would have been worn under a beaded shift and not with just a sash. It also apears to have darts which I don't recall seeing with 1920s flapper. Is she able to make her own? -Original Message- Gentle h-costumers, One of the gals in my dance company is looking for a repro '20s dress has found a ready-made done by Threads in Time. I said I'd check with h-costume see if anyone's bought from them. We hope to find out pretty quick if anyone's had quality, delivery or payment issues with the vendor. (I've never heard of them.) If you have any information about the return policy, if it doesnt fit or if she cant high-kick in the dress. (We dance a high-energy Charleston routine among other 20s dances.) Thanks for the help, --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Cin, I was looking around online today and found the following page: http://threadsintime.net/id1.html snip Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
These are wonderful, Bjarne! Thank you. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:51 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] danish costume museum online For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are on wiev on the danish costume museum. http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/index.html Only danish i am afraid, but look further down under the pictures of the costume, there are smaller pictures to click and they will appear besides the photo of the costume on top. Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in Have fun! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] cleaning problem
I tried spot remover, a laundry pretreater like Shout, and Zout. Has anyone tried Oxyclean? On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Sharon Collier wrote: What things have you tried? Simple Green works well on dissolving automotive oil My son's basketball got smeared by rolling under a car and it was the only stuff to get it off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] cleaning problem I know this isn't exactly costume related, but since others on the list often have problems cleaning costumes and antique clothing, I thought I'd see if anyone had a solution for a grease stain that has been through the wash twice and treated with spot removers and other stuff and still remains. I may have to give up on it but I thought I'd see if someone has had good luck with some product haven't tried. Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] cleaning problem
I used it on a bright yellow cotton blouse that I was sure that I would never be able to wear again, since the chocolate stain was right in front. The shirt did not bleach out and the set in stain was gone. If you are unsure about the material try a like fabric first. Kenet --- Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That won't bleach the fabric? It's not white. On Oct 21, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Kenet Muir wrote: Have you tried getting the stain wet with warm water then rubbing baking soda into it mixed with hydrogen peroxide? Let it sit for half and hour then wash as usual. I found that it worked with chocolate that had been through the wash several times. Kenet --- Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this isn't exactly costume related, but since others on the list often have problems cleaning costumes and antique clothing, I thought I'd see if anyone had a solution for a grease stain that has been through the wash twice and treated with spot removers and other stuff and still remains. I may have to give up on it but I thought I'd see if someone has had good luck with some product haven't tried. Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
By the way thank you for introducing the site. I love how you can zoom any of the garments. De -Original Message- On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are on wiev on the danish costume museum. http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/index.html Only danish i am afraid, but look further down under the pictures of the costume, there are smaller pictures to click and they will appear besides the photo of the costume on top. Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in Have fun! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
So it is not for say, winter but to go from town to town in. Was this a popular or common style of travel clothes? De -Original Message- At 02:41 AM 10/23/2007, you wrote: Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De It is not the same costume, but one of several that are shown on the Danish costume site. But yes, it is called a travelling costume in the Janet Arnold book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
Hi, This outfit was used to wear from bed in the morning until you had finnished your toilette. It was timeconsuming to get your hair set and also to make your morning toilette, so this outfit was used. It was common to have visits of both ladies and gentlemen when you made your toilette. Bjarne - Original Message - From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De -Original Message- On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are on wiev on the danish costume museum. http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/index.html Only danish i am afraid, but look further down under the pictures of the costume, there are smaller pictures to click and they will appear besides the photo of the costume on top. Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in Have fun! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help finding a painting
This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. thanks Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] cleaning problem
I've used Oxyclean on silk that my granddaughter spilt soda on, and it was left for years before I got it back to clean. It took several soakings with the cleaner but did come clean. alex On 10/22/07, Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried spot remover, a laundry pretreater like Shout, and Zout. Has anyone tried Oxyclean? On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Sharon Collier wrote: What things have you tried? Simple Green works well on dissolving automotive oil My son's basketball got smeared by rolling under a car and it was the only stuff to get it off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] cleaning problem I know this isn't exactly costume related, but since others on the list often have problems cleaning costumes and antique clothing, I thought I'd see if anyone had a solution for a grease stain that has been through the wash twice and treated with spot removers and other stuff and still remains. I may have to give up on it but I thought I'd see if someone has had good luck with some product haven't tried. Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- I can handle anything that life throws at me. I may not be able to handle it well, or correctly, or gracefully, or with finesse, or expediently -- but I will handle it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fwd: new books on textiles and clothing from DBBC
Oh, for a bigger book budget! I saw this and just had to pass the information on to an appreciative audience. Joan Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:30:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new books on textiles and clothing from DBBC Dear Joan Jurancich, I would like to draw your attention to several books relating to medieval and archaeological textiles and clothing: some new and others on their way to us at great prices. Firstly, long-awaited, but welcomed nonetheless, we have just received Ancient Textiles: Production, Craft and Society, a collection of papers dealing with textiles from the ancient world, with plenty of medieval papers and a few stretching into the eighteenth century. A full list of papers can be viewed by clicking the link for this book below. Accompanying this book is a useful short guide: First Aid for the Excavation of Archaeological Textiles. Also available from us right now. Just published by our friends at Brepols is Weaving, Veiling and Dressing: Textiles and their Metaphors in the Late Medieval Ages, which presents a collection of essays on textiles and the medieval Church. On their way to us from England are two Boydell books which we have managed to acquire at extremely good prices: Gale Owen-Crocker's Dress in Anglo-Saxon England which was released in a new edition in 2004 and the Museum of London's Medieval Horse and its Equipment. Secure your copies now! And finally, a brief reminder (because I am told that the books are about to be shipped to us) about the late Olaf Goubitz's Purses in Pieces and Stepping through Time, both of which will be available exclusively from us. We will look forward to hearing from you. With regards, Ian Stevens The David Brown Book Co. Tel: 1-800-791-9354 - 'Ancient Textiles' - edited by Carole Gillis and Marie-Louise B Nosch List Price: US$ 70.00 * Our Price: US$ 56.00 * List Price: US$ 70.00 Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=44861MID=25998 'First Aid for the Excavation of Archaeological Textiles' - edited by Carole Gillis and Marie-Louise B Nosch List Price: US$ 8.00 * Our Price: US$ 6.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=46414MID=25998 'Weaving, Veiling and Dressing: Textiles and their Metaphors in the Late Middle Ages' - edited by K.M. Rudy and B. Baert List Price: US$ 131.00 * Our Price: US$ 105.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=62087MID=25998 'Dress in Anglo-Saxon England' - by Gale R Owen-Crocker List Price: US$ 55.00 * Our Price: US$ 24.98 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=3280MID=25998 'The Medieval Horse and Its Equipment' - edited by John Clark List Price: US$ 50.00 * Our Price: US$ 22.98 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=40763MID=25998 'Purses in Pieces: Archaeological Finds of Late Medieval and 16th Century Leather Purses, Pouches, Bags and Cases in the Netherlands' - by Olaf Goubitz List Price: US$ 40.00 * Our Price: US$ 35.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=81349MID=25998 'Stepping Through Time: Archaeological Footwear from Prehistoric Times until 1800' - by Olaf Goubitz, Carol van Driel-Murray and Willy Groenman-van Waateringe List Price: US$ 75.00 * Our Price: US$ 65.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=32567MID=25998 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Vendor: Threads in Time
The particular dress she's interested in is a wink a nod at 20s. That's plenty good enough for this dance troupe. No, she's not able to make her own (she's a college student) I dont have time to help them all into both 20s Victorians. Thanks for the comments! --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Vendor: Threads in Time To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 First time I heard of them. How authentic is she wanting? Most of the costume side is a basic that can be upgrade. The silver satin looks more like something that would have been worn under a beaded shift and not with just a sash. It also apears to have darts which I don't recall seeing with 1920s flapper. Is she able to make her own? -Original Message- Gentle h-costumers, One of the gals in my dance company is looking for a repro '20s dress has found a ready-made done by Threads in Time. I said I'd check with h-costume see if anyone's bought from them. We hope to find out pretty quick if anyone's had quality, delivery or payment issues with the vendor. (I've never heard of them.) If you have any information about the return policy, if it doesnt fit or if she cant high-kick in the dress. (We dance a high-energy Charleston routine among other 20s dances.) Thanks for the help, --cin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Rundschau Historische Schnitte HaKa (men)
Hi! I've just received my copy of this book, so just a few information: It has some few patterns on renaissance doublets, cape, and hosen. Then it has a few good-looking patterns for 18th century waistcoats and jackets and then many, many garments from the 19th century, coats, trousers and anything one would like to make. And many military garments, napoleon wars and younger. So, mainly for the 19th-century enthusiasists, though I found it very helpful for drafting men's fitted garments. The 16th century doublet pattern may be easily variated to earlier garments from the medieval period. The most fitted garments here are the waistcoats. They're also helpful, you just have to remember that the armhole and shoulder bit is enlarged. So when adding sleeves, make this part as in another pattern with sleeves. The patterns are very similar, so I think you can use incorporate more patterns in one. The good thing is that you won't need any basics for understanding. All slopers are explained. You'll only need to know how the measurements are called in English. Which is no problem if you write to the list:-) The shipping to EU could be about 12 euros, I think. But I have no Idea how much it is for America... Zuzana __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Thank you, Bjarne for the Danish museum site
Wow! Just lovely! When you say, Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in. do you mean sewing patterns laid out as in Janet Arnold? If so, how do I find them? Thanks again for this treat. Martha ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
Quoting Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. thanks Elizabeth, I have one like that, but I'm at school and it's at home. I'll email it to you tonight. susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
So was the hood for covering an unmade hair do? De -Original Message- Hi, This outfit was used to wear from bed in the morning until you had finnished your toilette. It was timeconsuming to get your hair set and also to make your morning toilette, so this outfit was used. It was common to have visits of both ladies and gentlemen when you made your toilette. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
I guess this is probably where the quilted robe evolved from. I was hoping it was a little more of a public dress. De -Original Message- According to the site, this is a morning toilette ensemble. For recieving visitors while getting dressed and having hair done. Tania ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!
I know that a few of you are interested in the NESAT (Northern European Society for Archaeological Textiles) Volume 9 is now available for order. http://www.archeotex.ch/aktuell.html I have ordered mine from the Swiss online bookseller.. but given the way the post usually works, you will probably get yours before I do. The price is 48 CHF (Swiss Francs) plus shipping. Beth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Rundschau Historische Schnitte HaKa (men)
So how does one buy this book Author, publisher, etc.? Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Zuzana Kraemerova [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 1:42 pm Subject: [h-cost] Rundschau Historische Schnitte HaKa (men) Hi! I've just received my copy of this book, so just a few information: It has some few patterns on renaissance doublets, cape, and hosen. Then it has a few good-looking patterns for 18th century waistcoats and jackets and then many, many garments from the 19th century, coats, trousers and anything one would like to make. And many military garments, napoleon wars and younger. So, mainly for the 19th-century enthusiasists, though I found it very helpful for drafting men's fitted garments. The 16th century doublet pattern may be easily variated to earlier garments from the medieval period. The most fitted garments here are the waistcoats. They're also helpful, you just have to remember that the armhole and shoulder bit is enlarged. So when adding sleeves, make this part as in another pattern with sleeves. The patterns are very similar, so I think you can use incorporate more patterns in one. The good thing is that you won't need any basics for understanding. All slopers are explained. You'll only need to know how the measurements are called in English. Which is no problem if you write to the list:-) The shipping to EU could be about 12 euros, I think. But I have no Idea how much it is for America... Zuzana __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Rundschau Historische Schnitte HaKa (men)
Is this it? http://tinyurl.com/2lv3rt or this http://tinyurl.com/2nzu53 -Original Message- i! I've just received my copy of this book, so just a few information: It has some few patterns on renaissance doublets, cape, and hosen. Then it has a few good-looking patterns for 18th century waistcoats and jackets and then many, many garments from the 19th century, coats, trousers and anything one would like to make. And many military garments, napoleon wars and younger. So, mainly for the 19th-century enthusiasists, though I found it very helpful for drafting men's fitted garments. The 16th century doublet pattern may be easily variated to earlier garments from the medieval period. The most fitted garments here are the waistcoats. They're also helpful, you just have to remember that the armhole and shoulder bit is enlarged. So when adding sleeves, make this part as in another pattern with sleeves. The patterns are very similar, so I think you can use incorporate more patterns in one. The good thing is that you won't need any basics for understanding. All slopers are explained. You'll only need to know how the measurements are called in English. Which is no problem if you write to the list:-) The shipping to EU could be about 12 euros, I think. But I have no Idea how much it is for America... Zuzana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!
Is there a table of contents somewhere online? Thanks, Melanie Schuessler On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: I know that a few of you are interested in the NESAT (Northern European Society for Archaeological Textiles) Volume 9 is now available for order. http://www.archeotex.ch/aktuell.html I have ordered mine from the Swiss online bookseller.. but given the way the post usually works, you will probably get yours before I do. The price is 48 CHF (Swiss Francs) plus shipping. Beth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
Elizabeth wrote: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. The painting is The Meeting of Mary and Elisabeth by Max Reichlich, Austrian, ca 1513. It's up on Web Gallery of Art. I was interested in the jug and the beverage flask, but the fetuses doing the meet-and-greet between the pregnant bellies are what made the picture really memorable... Enjoy, -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] cleaning problem
For grease; dab it with some GOOP hand cleaner, the one used by auto mechanics to wash their hands. Lightly wet it and then dab it if its too delicate the textile, if not just dab it and let stand for some while then rinse. Joe -Original Message- From: Alexandria Doyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:41 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] cleaning problem I've used Oxyclean on silk that my granddaughter spilt soda on, and it was left for years before I got it back to clean. It took several soakings with the cleaner but did come clean. alex On 10/22/07, Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried spot remover, a laundry pretreater like Shout, and Zout. Has anyone tried Oxyclean? On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Sharon Collier wrote: What things have you tried? Simple Green works well on dissolving automotive oil My son's basketball got smeared by rolling under a car and it was the only stuff to get it off. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] cleaning problem I know this isn't exactly costume related, but since others on the list often have problems cleaning costumes and antique clothing, I thought I'd see if anyone had a solution for a grease stain that has been through the wash twice and treated with spot removers and other stuff and still remains. I may have to give up on it but I thought I'd see if someone has had good luck with some product haven't tried. Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- I can handle anything that life throws at me. I may not be able to handle it well, or correctly, or gracefully, or with finesse, or expediently -- but I will handle it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
_http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=79_ (http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=79) Can you please indulge me, Bjarne, and tell me what this fabric is? It is very surprising to see a plaid this early, in a bibfront dress! Thanks for sharing. Ann Wass ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: This is not directly clothing related but does anybody know where I can find a painting that shows the visitation (the bit in the bible where Mary visits Elizabeth) with a sort of x-ray view where you can see both the unborn babies (Jesus and John the Baptist) on their mothers stomachs. From memory it's 14th or 15th century Italian and I think one mother is wearing pink and the other blue but I may be mistaken. I was talking to a friend about it but without an artist or reasonably unique title a google image search didn't turn up anything useful. To bring this back to clothing, I think it would be fun to recreate the painting by painting or printing a picture of a baby onto a dress. Fortunately or unfortunately for you, there is not just one such painting -- it's a fairly common theme. However, my favorite is the one I made a LOLsaints picture out of it's here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claning/1057360496/in/ set-72157601285300832/ (P.S. Safe for work, but not for the humorless :) Now that I look at that one again, it's one of the type where only one infant, the future John the Baptist, is actually shown. I do have at least one that shows both infants. Aha! It's from REALonline http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/ which is an excellent image source for paintings, sculpture, et cetera in Austria. Go there, select Bildthema from the drop-down menu, and search on Heimsuchung Mariens (without the quotes) and you will get well over 100 Visitation paintings when you click on Zeige Bilder (see pictures). The one I have in mind is their picture number (Bildnummern) #000225. A direct link to just the picture is: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7000108.JPG The information on the main site (which uses frames) says as follows: Tempera on wood, wing panel of an altar. Artist unknown, Upper Austria, 1490-1500. Now in the collection of Krems Cathedral, Austria. Aha, here's another one: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/ images/7001442.JPG Another altar wing panel, tempera on wood, by the Master of the Pfarrwerfener Altar, probably painted in Salzburg around 1425-1430. Now in the Museum Carolino Augusteum in Salzburg. There's an interesting book stand in this one too: a detail is at http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7001444.JPG Others I saw in a quick run-through: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7013861.JPG or picture #012952 Each lady has a gold oval on her belly and I think I can see images of babies in both. http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7013000.JPG or picture #012305 This one's especially interesting, with the two babies seemingly kneeling in the air in front of their mothers. http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7006475.JPG or picture #008153 (I am sorely tempted to caption this one MY halo is bigger than YOUR halo...) http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7006314.JPG or picture #004678 This one just has gold stars on both ladies' bellies. And there are at least a couple more. The one I made into a LOLsaints icon is also from REALonline, picture #000907 Direct link: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002773.JPG Yet another altar wing panel, in tempera on wood by Konrad von Friesach of Kärnten, 1450-1460. Have fun! OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting
On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Helen Pinto wrote: The painting is The Meeting of Mary and Elisabeth by Max Reichlich, Austrian, ca 1513. It's up on Web Gallery of Art. I was interested in the jug and the beverage flask, but the fetuses doing the meet-and-greet between the pregnant bellies are what made the picture really memorable... I have to admit, it's the only one I've seen where it looks like the babies are giving each other high-fives! OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!
I haven't found a full list but these are in it: Ulla Mannering with L. Ræder Knudsen, A Danish Early Germanic Iron Age Grave with Tablet Woven Cuffs Margarita Gleba with J.M. Turfa, Digging for archaeological textiles in museums: New finds in the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology Eva Andersson, Engendering Central Places, some aspects of the organisation of textile production during the Viking Age. Linda Mårtensson, Toolmakers? On the production of tools for making and treating textiles during the Viking Age. Heini Kirjavainen, Some Finnish late Iron Age and Medieval Twill Weaves from the 11th to the 15th century. Hope this helps, Beth Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:23:22 -0400 From: Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a table of contents somewhere online? Thanks, Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] danish costume museum: mounting question
Can anyone figure out how they mounted for display the ladies' costumes? Especially one like this: http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=119 Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] danish costume museum: mounting question
In one of the pictures the bottom of the stand is visible ( http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=14 ); it seems to me to be a wire form holding up the gown from the inside. Just my .02 kate Can anyone figure out how they mounted for display the ladies' costumes? Especially one like this: http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=119 Penny ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online
And was it worn in public, or as the name suggests, only as a Morning dress, as I would wear my quilted robe around the house before dressing to go out? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:41 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] danish costume museum online Bjarne, What season was this dress worn? http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/periode1/dragt.asp?ID=57 Is it for a special occasion? De -Original Message- On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Leif og Bjarne Drews wrote: For those of you who are interrested clothes from 1700 and onwards are on wiev on the danish costume museum. http://tidenstoej.natmus.dk/index.html Only danish i am afraid, but look further down under the pictures of the costume, there are smaller pictures to click and they will appear besides the photo of the costume on top. Also pdf files of the pattern cuts and also zoom in Have fun! Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
