Re: redirect.www.ibm.com (IBMLink)

2008-02-12 Thread Big Iron
I had noticed something similar happening when I used ServiceLink with
Firefox and JavaScript disabled: that error was being reported for every
page. I think that Internet Explorer might be insensitive to that sort of
issue. I would suggest opening a feedback item.

Bill

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:57:40 -0600, Brian Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:11:41 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch

You have attempted to establish a connection with
www.ibmlink.ibm.com.  However, the security certificate
presented belongs to redirect.www.ibm.com.  It is possible,
though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your
communication with this web site.

I suggest editing your web browser Favorite to instead use the following simple
link, which is recommended by the IBMLink Help Desk:

http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink

This always works - when IBMLink works, anyway.  But better than that, it is
the recommended link.

Brian


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Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

2008-02-12 Thread Skip Robinson
In the course of writing a Rexx exec, I encountered an anomaly. I'd like to
know if it's just me or an actual aberration.

For the first time I used the arithmetic operator % (percent sign in the
US). This operator returns the integer portion of a quotient, as opposed to
// (double slash), which returns the remainder. This line appears to cause
a problem with ISPF highlighting:

s_time = ((h_curr % req_int) * req_int) - req_int

The problem shows up under a specific set of conditions:

1. The Rexx library does not have llq .EXEC. For example, mine is .CLIST
2. The library is RECFM VB
3. The Rexx is numbered.
4. HILITE is set to Automatic.

Under these conditions, the % wreaks havoc on highlighting.

If the library is called .EXEC or is FB, if the member is not numbered
(even in a VB library), or if HILITE is set explicitly to Rexx, then the
problem does not occur.

Am I crazy?

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Steve Comstock

Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:06:57 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote:


From Shell Script Programming in z/OS UNIX
(http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/u515descr.htm):



Bad URL.  Might help to delimit it with blanks:



( http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/u515descr.htm ):




-exec command \;   - runs specified command; if command
 contains this string {}, the string
 is replaced by the found file

also, later...

 find . -name 'string' -exec grep -i fa {} \;



If you're doing this, I'd suggest:

find . -name 'string' -exec grep -i fa {} /dev/null \;

... to cause the filenames to appear in the output.

-- gil


Excellent suggestion, Paul. Thanks.


Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

303-393-8716
http://www.trainersfriend.com

  z/OS Application development made easier
* Our classes include
   + How things work
   + Programming examples with realistic applications
   + Starter / skeleton code
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   + Tips and techniques

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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Stephen Y Odo

Steve Comstock wrote:

H. Where do you find this? I went to the Firefox site
and did not find NoScript in the list of addons or plugins.



Don't know about Firefox but for Seamonkey it was in the extensions 
page ...


--Stephen

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Stephen Y Odo

Eric Bielefeld wrote:
I think many of the estimates people have givin on this thread seem really high for the number of sysprogs to staff a z/OS site.  At PH, for the last 10 years or so, we had 3 sysprogs.  We only had a 115 MIP machine, so were very small.  


We're a small shop too.  We run a z890-220 with 4 z/OS LPARs 
(monoplex).  Each LPAR has from 4 to 8 CICS instances and between 6 and 
13 ADABAS databases.  We do everything for the mainframe from installing 
and customizing the operating system to installing and customizing 
vendor software to installing, customizing, and managing the databases 
to RACF administration to Storage Management to VTAM and TCP/IP 
maintenance to ... you get the picture.  We have TWO systems programmers 
doing all of this.


I think we're overworked.  But the plan was that we'd only have to carry 
this workload for 5 years and then the mainframe would be gone and we'd 
go back to normal workloads when we get integrated into our 18-man 
Sun/Solaris SysAdmin pool.  We've been doing this for 18 years now ... 
and management is projecting that we'll only need to do this for another 
3 years ...


--Stephen

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I worked as a systems programmer for 2 years when I was hired by Marine Bank in 
the middle of 3 levels.  I became a Senior Systems Programmer after 2 years 
there, or a total of 4 years.  I don't know what's normal, or whats normal now. 

Eric

 Yukus wrote: 
 What would all of you consider a senior level systems programmer (how many
 years of experience) ?
 

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The z9EC model number is 2097.
 
 
No, it isn't.  The z9EC model number is 2094; the z9BC number is 2096.  
 
My bad.
I can only attribute it to a bad memory and being off the job for 8 months.
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Re: EMC Power Down/Up Billable

2008-02-12 Thread Raymond Noal
What!!!

snip

EMC, like Sun and IBM and the rest, charge these days for everything.

/snip

I resent the implication! We (HDS) do not require a FE to be on-site if our 
customer decides to power off our equipment. Granted, it's a two step process 
to effect - push and hold the ENABLE switch that activates the power on/off 
switch, and then push the power on/off switch. It's not rocket science, just a 
mental reminder of what you are about to do. The customer does have to be aware 
of the duration of the expected power outage and the impact on the onboard 
batteries. You may want to disconnect the backup batteries for prolonged 
outages which is done via a connector. Again, not rocket science. 

Just another FREE feature from your friends at HDS.

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug 
Fuerst
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: EMC Power Down/Up Billable

EMC, like Sun and IBM and the rest, charge these days for everything. 
Since they hid the power button, and the things have to boot, it is 
usually better to have them do it. And I am a former FE.

Doug

At 15:02 12-02-08, you wrote:
The building will have its power reconditioned on Sunday with a total outage.
The batteries will not run that long forcing a complete system power down.
EMC is telling us that in order to power down/up their DMX boxes, this needs
to be done by an EMC CE, is not covered under the warranty or any existing
maintenance contract and is billable for DOWN and billable again for UP.
Although they are going to do it for nothing this time.

Have had IBM, STK, HDS, Itel, UNISYS, Burroughs, and even Calcomp DASD
over the years and it was always pushing the POWER OFF and POWER UP
buttons myself. Is it the general experience out their in the real world that
DASD vendors now charge for such an event and if so how much?

Curious in Washington DC.   Jim

Jim Marshall, Systems Software Engineer
Washington DC  20415

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
 
 The z9EC model number is 2097.

That's interesting  Our z9EC claims to be a 2094.

-jc-

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Re: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

2008-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:07:13 -0800, Skip Robinson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
s_time = ((h_curr % req_int) * req_int) - req_int
...
Under these conditions, the % wreaks havoc on highlighting.
...

As others have said, this behavior has been confirmed.

...
Am I crazy?
...

This, I believe, is a completely differnt issue and has not yet
been addressed.  :-)

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:20:22 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
 
The z9EC model number is 2097.
 
 
No, it isn't.  The z9EC model number is 2094; the z9BC number is 2096.  
 
-- 
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Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you 
no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses?

Of course the licence still has to be paid for.
You can either transfer it to the service provider, or continue paying it 
yourself.
If you've transfered, it will be buried in your service fees.

It's not free.

A certain large ISV wanted to charge us 10 times the annual rate to transfer 
the licence to our out-sourcer.
They did this because the out-sourcer had a fully funded (and approved) 
initiative to replace all the products they supplied with any other equivalent.

The ISV was/is not popular.
They decided they'd rather gouge us one more time because they were going to 
lose us, if they transfered the licence.
(You can probably figure out which ISV)

But, the bottom line is maintenance is not going to go away, regardless of who 
pays for it (directly, or indirectly).

-
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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:15:55 -0500, Burrell, C. Todd 
(CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
1)  Install ANY OEM product with no help.
2)  Install z/OS or another Serverpac with no help.
3)  Debug a dump with no help.
4)  Do at least some minimal assembler coding
5)  Understand and be able to do most SMP/E work (like investigating
sysmods and coding usermods).
...

I know that this varies greatly from shop to shop, but I think the 
1st half of 2 is a whole lot bigger task than any of the tasks.  Since
there are rarely brand new installations now, installing z/OS
probably means installing a new release of z/OS.  That means 
finding all stuff (not just just mods and USERMODs) that might 
possibly be release-dependant.  That alone can be a big subtask.
Having a good set of IVRs can reduce the work a lot, but I would 
still expect a good system programmer to not attempt to do it with
no help unless there is no other help available.  

Pat O'Keefe
   

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Matthew Stitt
And to some degree, be able to walk on water. G, D  R

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:15:55 -0500, Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would say somewhere between 5 and 10 years experience depending on
what and where the experience occurred.  I worked in a sweatshop for my
first 8 years, and probably got 20 good years of experience there.  But
some people spend their first 5-10 years only installing a couple of OEM
products, so I would not call them senior.

It all depends on the level of experience, but I would say that a senior
systems programmer should be able to do the following (and have 5-10
years work experience):

1)  Install ANY OEM product with no help.
2)  Install z/OS or another Serverpac with no help.
3)  Debug a dump with no help.
4)  Do at least some minimal assembler coding
5)  Understand and be able to do most SMP/E work (like investigating
sysmods and coding usermods).

This is just my opinion.

Thanks

C. Todd Burrell
Lead z/OS Systems Programmer
ITSO
(404) 723-2017 (Cell)


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

What would all of you consider a senior level systems programmer (how
many years of experience) ?

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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:10:46 -0600, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Other than via OPERCMDS profiles protecting the VARY command (which then
requires that all consoles be LOGON=REQUIRED) I don't think so.

At worst, automation or command exits could restrict the VARY CN command
operands that you allow.

-- 
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  IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Scott Barry
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:32:43 -0800, Lars Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Tom Moulder wrote:
 How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows 
up as a
 z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

 What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines?

Slide number 10 in this presentation should answer your questions
in some detail:
http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm
_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf

The heading says: z9 BC model S07.

Google is your friend!

/ Lars Poulsen

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The presentation referenced in the above link (mind the broken URL) contains 
a typographical error with the 2097 reference as z9 S07 BC.   

One of the questionable benefits of the web and Internet searches.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:10:10 -0600, Tom Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CPC NAME = ZHE

Hmmm... ZHÈ is a Chinese word for this. So maybe it's just self identifying.

Tony H.

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Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Pat Mihalec wrote:
I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean 
you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses?


Pat Mihalec
Rush University Medical Center
Senior System Programmer
(312) 942-8386
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





You are still paying for it no matter what.  Either directly to the 
software vendor, or as part of your contract with the out sourcer.


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Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-12 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The SPAS address space is history, so any confusion stems from using SPAS as
a word in talking about WLM managed address spaces.

You can have many WLM address spaces started based on demand. IBM
recommended people shift their stored procedures a couple of versions ago.
Luckily, I didn't haven't worry about this, we went from zero UDFs to having
several running in WLM managed address spaces.

If you don't have any stored procedures and only UDFs, it can hardly be
referred to as a SPAS anything, surely?

I'm sure the OP is now suitably confusedSorry...

On 2/13/08, Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SPs and UDFs, yes.  But the confusion is in referring in short-hand to
 the WLM address space.  WLM has its own address space called WLM.  SPs
 and UDFs run in the WLM-managed SPAS address space arbitrarily named in
 the APPLENV definition.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:16 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: WLM for toddlers

 Actually the terminology for SPAs applies also to UDFs (user defined
 functions).

 The SQL DDL for a UDF includes the name of the external load module (8
 char load module) and the WLM environment which in some of the IBM
 example code is something like WLMENV1.

 WLM starts up an address space to execute the SP or UDF. The WLM address
 space is configured with number of tasks with (NUMTCB) etc.

 A simple example is the DSN8.DAYNAME UDF. The DDL is shown below:

 CREATE FUNCTION DSN8.DAYNAME
 (VARCHAR(10) FOR SBCS DATA CCSID EBCDIC) RETURNS VARCHAR(9) FOR SBCS
 DATA CCSID EBCDIC SPECIFIC DSN8EUDNV EXTERNAL NAME 'DSN8EUDN'
 LANGUAGE C
 DETERMINISTIC PARAMETER STYLE DB2SQL FENCED CALLED ON NULL INPUT NO SQL
 NO EXTERNAL ACTION NO SCRATCHPAD NO FINAL CALL ALLOW PARALLEL NO DBINFO
 NO COLLID WLM ENVIRONMENT DB28WLM1 ASUTIME LIMIT 5 STAY RESIDENT NO
 PROGRAM TYPE SUB SECURITY DB2 STOP AFTER SYSTEM DEFAULT FAILURES INHERIT
 SPECIAL REGISTERS ;

 So at our shop we have a WLM address space called DB28WLM1. The external
 function is coded in C.

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:10:10 -0600, Tom Moulder wrote:

 CPC NAME = ZHE

 
z/HE might be a name used if the new box was closer to the size of a washing 
machine than 
a refrigerator; my washer is a High Efficiency model (HE)... so why not the 
next 
mainframe? 
 
(One reason not to go that route might be that the HE washers use very little 
SOA(P).  Yes, 
the are environmentally friendly  - very green (low water, lower power, low 
detergent) 
but isn't IBM Global trying to sell mostly SOAP services?)  
 
--
Tom Schmidt
(Nope, no NDA... just speculation.)  
 

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Re: IBM PR: Almost Introducing the Extraordinary New XXXXX

2008-02-12 Thread Michael Stack
It's nice that this announcement coincides with the X meeting in Orlando 
that week.  Should we presume that there will be sessions on X at the X 
meeting?

Michael Stack

At 10:34 PM 2/12/2008, you wrote:
Copy of an invitation which I think this audience may be interested in.
The X represents redacted text which appears in the invitation as
black bars.


== Sign up now for live Web seminar on February 26 at
http://www.on24.com/clients/ibm/102818

ALMOST INTRODUCING THE EXTRAORDINARY NEW X

We can't reveal much about the amazing new X just yet.  Through
virtualization and consolidation it can help lower your power and cooling
costs by up to a remarkable X.  It can help cut floor space needs by up
to X.  It is designed to deliver capacity improvements of up to X.
Yes, amazing.  Simply, your data center has never seen the likes of the new
X before.  Just when you thought the X couldn't get any more
powerful, well, it has.

Learn from those in the know.

Speakers for the live Web seminar have the inside scoop -- and they'll
share it with you.  They are: Jim Stallings, GM, Enterprise Systems
Division, IBM Systems  Technology Group and Bob Hoey, VP, Enterprise
Systems Division, IBM Systems  Technology Group.

The Web link will take you to IBM's partner, On24, who will help complete
your Web seminar registration.

- - - - -
Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
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IBM PR: The Future Runs on ?????? ? Events in North America

2008-02-12 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM has posted a large number of city events billed as The Future Runs on
?? ? -- yes, that's really what it says -- now open for registration
at:

http://www.ibm.com/events/systemz

The Web page currently lists cities in North America.  If I spot other Web
sites with comparable listings outside the U.S. and Canada I'll follow up
with a post.

- - - - -
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IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
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IBM PR: Almost Introducing the Extraordinary New XXXXX

2008-02-12 Thread Timothy Sipples
Copy of an invitation which I think this audience may be interested in.
The X represents redacted text which appears in the invitation as
black bars.


== Sign up now for live Web seminar on February 26 at
http://www.on24.com/clients/ibm/102818

ALMOST INTRODUCING THE EXTRAORDINARY NEW X

We can't reveal much about the amazing new X just yet.  Through
virtualization and consolidation it can help lower your power and cooling
costs by up to a remarkable X.  It can help cut floor space needs by up
to X.  It is designed to deliver capacity improvements of up to X.
Yes, amazing.  Simply, your data center has never seen the likes of the new
X before.  Just when you thought the X couldn't get any more
powerful, well, it has.

Learn from those in the know.

Speakers for the live Web seminar have the inside scoop -- and they'll
share it with you.  They are: Jim Stallings, GM, Enterprise Systems
Division, IBM Systems  Technology Group and Bob Hoey, VP, Enterprise
Systems Division, IBM Systems  Technology Group.

The Web link will take you to IBM's partner, On24, who will help complete
your Web seminar registration.

- - - - -
Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
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Re: IBM PR: Almost Introducing the Extraordinary New XXXXX

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:49:18 -0600, Michael Stack wrote:
 
It's nice that this announcement coincides with the X meeting in Orlando 
that week.  
Should we presume that there will be sessions on X at the X meeting?
 
 
I'd guess yes since John Eels' presentation at 11am on Feb 26th says (or said) 
that his 
presentation would be announced prior to the session.  (I read that as 
confirmation that the 
announcement would be sometime prior to 11am on 26Feb.)  
 
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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Edward Jaffe

Skip Robinson wrote:

It's not a security issue per se, but it did occur to me that SMCS might
encounter one problem that SDSF EMCS would not. An SMCS session behaves
like a real console in that messages continually flow to it according to
the usual rules. If an SMCS session is left unattended--even 'locked' as
others have suggested for security--in Roll Delete mode, messages will
accumulate wherever they live these days. This can eventually lead to a
console buffer shortage condition. In current releases of z/OS, this should
not present a serious problem, but it will not go unnoticed.

Let me be the first to raise my hand as a guilty party on this one.  ;-(
  


Consoles are consoles. And, messages are messages. They can get 
backlogged. The fewer routing codes directed to a console, the less of a 
problem this will be.


EMCS, whether used by SDSF, Netview, (E)JES, or other similar software, 
is a programming interface. If the program does not periodically issue 
MCSOPMSG to retrieve messages directed to the console, they will back up 
-- just as for any other console. Some EMCS exploiters initialize 
ROUTCDE=NONE during MCSOPER ACTIVATE in an attempt to avoid this 
situation. However, an active EMCS console can be set via VARY CN to 
receive *any* message set.


As you say, one of the best things to come out of the (ongoing) z/OS 
console restructure is that console message backlogs no longer harm the 
system. Messages will back up as resources allow. At some point, they 
are discarded if not retrieved or displayed in a timely manner.


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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Skip Robinson
It's not a security issue per se, but it did occur to me that SMCS might
encounter one problem that SDSF EMCS would not. An SMCS session behaves
like a real console in that messages continually flow to it according to
the usual rules. If an SMCS session is left unattended--even 'locked' as
others have suggested for security--in Roll Delete mode, messages will
accumulate wherever they live these days. This can eventually lead to a
console buffer shortage condition. In current releases of z/OS, this should
not present a serious problem, but it will not go unnoticed.

Let me be the first to raise my hand as a guilty party on this one.  ;-(

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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Last year I attempted to implement SMCS console support to provide the
various support teams console access whenever TSO/SDSF isn't available.

Our operations manager nixed the plan for what he thought were security
reasons. Last night we had a system problem that this support would have
been very handy to help me diagnose and fix the problem. I'd like to
revisit this with the manager but I would like more ammo to present my
case to him.

Are there any differences in security related stuff between SMCS
console capabilities and an SDSF (EMCS) console? We would require the
user to logon to the SMCS application so RACF would only grant access to
authorized personal and all other RACF profiles/rules would be in effect
for that user.

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And our z9BC claims to be a 2096-S07-T03.

I googled and IBM-searched, but I got no answers.
If somebody did, could they please send me either a link or their search 
arguments?

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Re: zOS 1.9 IEANUC01

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Jacobs
The only time the target MIGLIB(used as a steplib) becomes a problem
when is when it is updated during the apply and SMPE performs its
automatic compress if/when the dateset runs out of space. The apply job
usually abends a short time later.

Mark Jacobs

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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:20:57 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/25/2008
   at 12:05 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Over-simplified?  Sounds complicated.   More so then using a
JOBLIB/STEPLIB  and classpath pointing to a service directory when 
running from a downleveled  driving system (IMO).

I would advise pointing to *copies* of both, rather than to the targets

you're updating. but it's not my dog.


This discussion was a long time ago (and I'm not going back to look),
but IIRC this was regarding a procedure to use for receive and apply
during migration.   The classpath gets used during the RECEIVE only
so it doesn't matter if it is updated during apply.  But I guess the
target MIGLIB version of GIMSMP could be updated during the apply, but I
don't think it would cause a problem even if it did.

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Re: SQA Expansion

2008-02-12 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 02/12/2008 
06:13:27 PM:

 We are z/OS V1R7 and we had a problem with running out of CSA  ECSA.
 When SQA overflows the message states the ECSA / CSA has been converted
 to SQA. The question is after SQA converts ECSA to SQA the CSA that has
 been converted can not be returned back to CSA. True. 
 
 Where is that documented ?

  That is not true.  If (E)SQA storage is obtained from the (E)CSA 
virtual storage range area and is subsequently freed,  that 
virtual storage can then be used to satisfy an (E)CSA request. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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SQA Expansion

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R7 and we had a problem with running out of CSA  ECSA.
When SQA overflows the message states the ECSA / CSA has been converted
to SQA. The question is after SQA converts ECSA to SQA the CSA that has
been converted can not be returned back to CSA. True. 
 
Where is that documented ?
 
Any help would be appreciated. 
 
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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Ed Gould

On Feb 12, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Frank Alequin wrote:


Here is my opinion on Z/OS system programer staffing.

When I decided to start looking for a new JOB in the mainframe  
world, I found

that many companies were looking for System Programmer Gods that knew
about everything. This surprised me because I had enough work only  
working
with implementation of OPC Scheduler, now known as TWS and other  
products

installations.

After that I started getting also the responsibility of OS390 - Z/OS
installations, SMS, DFHSM implementation and Disaster Recovery  
Planing and

execution.

Right know I am one of the youngest System Programmer in my actual  
job. I
decided to stay in the mainframe world even thou people said that  
mainframe
was dying, but it has been difficult for me to find an attractive  
job in the US.
Everything is contracts and that is not paying as much as it used  
to. The
people that have been in this field a long time know what I am  
talking about.
Besides when people see in my resume that I am currently living and  
working

in Puerto Rico don't pay that much attention.

A lot of people that gratuated with me are just foucused and  
oriented to open

systems.

Now I am just wondering if I should have decided to work in Open  
Systems.


Anyway I could keep on writing but I'll start bouring people.



Frank,

Welcome to the world of dinosaurs:(
There is no right answer for your question(s). As always it depends  
and when your resume is seen (read optical scanned) by the HR  
department.


The bigger the companies the more impersonal the hiring is get used  
to it.


The bigger the company the less likely you will be a general systems  
programmer. We have seen a list on here as to what companies seem to  
want and other that indicate they don't know what they want. The  
truth is its somewhere in between. Personally I would tend to stay  
away from becoming an expert in OE. This is just my attitude I am  
sure other will disagree. Don't get me wrong its a must to have OE  
experience so you can wade around in the muck. I have only seen those  
types of positions in a business that runs one of big (sorry I am  
having a senior moment here) packages that was retrofitted to the  
mainframe.  my ears indicate that the vendors bully the users around  
and you can't argue with them its their way or its wrong. If you like  
working in that type of environment go for it. I have even heard the  
vendors (sales types) telling the company who they want to work on  
their system so be prepared for intense political pressure. Your boss  
won't want to be considered not to be a team player so he will bend  
to their wishes.
On the other hand if you can survive such political intrigue go for  
it but keep you hands wet in the MVS side as sooner or later you will  
need it at the best you might be able to keep your job on the other  
end you will be branded by the vendor as a troublemaker.

Ed

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Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
WLM has its own address space called WLM.  SPs
and UDFs run in the WLM-managed SPAS address space arbitrarily named in the 
APPLENV definition. 

I don't mean to pick a nit:
1. All user address spaces have arbitrary names.
2. In Goal Mode, all address spaces are WLM-Managed.

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z/OS V1R9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] panel

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Steely
When I tried to update the [EMAIL PROTECTED] panel and customize it to our
display I am only able to get 13 option lines:
 
0  Settings  Terminal and user parameters  
1  View  Display source data or listings   
2  Edit  Create or change source data  
3  Utilities Perform utility functions 
...
 
The previous release (z/OS V1R7) I was able to display 17 option lines:
 
I have looked in the ISPF Planning  Customizing manual and can't figure
out what I need to update. 
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Edward Jaffe

Wayne Driscoll wrote:

Other than via OPERCMDS profiles protecting the VARY command (which then
requires that all consoles be LOGON=REQUIRED) I don't think so.
  


It turns out that VARY CN,LOGON= requires an AUTH=MASTER console, and is 
explicitly protected -- separate from other VARY CN -- with the 
MVS.VARYLOGON.CN profile in the OPERCMDS class. Use of this profile 
should effectively prevent EMCS or SMCS consoles from issuing VARY 
CN,LOGON= to change the LOGON status of another SMCS console to OPTIONAL.


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Re: zOS 1.9 IEANUC01

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:20:57 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/25/2008
   at 12:05 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Over-simplified?  Sounds complicated.   More so then using a
JOBLIB/STEPLIB  and classpath pointing to a service directory when
running from a downleveled  driving system (IMO).

I would advise pointing to *copies* of both, rather than to the targets
you're updating. but it's not my dog.


This discussion was a long time ago (and I'm not going back to look), but
IIRC this was regarding a procedure to use for receive and apply
during migration.   The classpath gets used during the RECEIVE only
so it doesn't matter if it is updated during apply.  But I guess the
target MIGLIB version of GIMSMP could be updated during the apply, but  
I don't think it would cause a problem even if it did.

Mark
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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Other than via OPERCMDS profiles protecting the VARY command (which then
requires that all consoles be LOGON=REQUIRED) I don't think so.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.


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Subject: Re: SMCS Console Question

George Fogg wrote:
 Ed: The only exposure I see (and I'm streching it here) is that anyone
that
 has access to any MCS console with LOGON=OPTIONAL (or default) can issue
*any*
 command (of course, depending on the AUTH= parameter)and OPERCMDS checking
is
 basically bypassed because the user is not required to logon to the MCS
 console.

 So lets say I have access to your MCS console EDJXADM that has
AUTH=MASTER. I
 can issue the V CN(SMCS6001),LOGON=OPTIONAL) for your SMCS console,
 therefore your SMCS console doesn't require *any* user that knows the VTAM
 APPLID and SMCS console name to LOGON.

George, Until you posted this, I would have guessed that setting 
LOGON=OPTIONAL was invalid for SMCS consoles. But, I tried issuing this 
VARY CN command from my AUTH=MASTER EMCS console and -- Behold! -- the 
LOGON attribute on my SMCS console was faithfully changed to OPTIONAL. 
Now, I have an AUTH=MASTER SMCS back door to my system that anyone can 
exploit!

Is there no way to prevent the LOGON attribute from being changed for 
SMCS consoles??

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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Is there no way to prevent the LOGON attribute from being changed for SMCS 
consoles??

Have your automation package trap the command and refuse to pass it on.
We did that for a few risky commands, a few years ago.
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Re: zOS 1.9 IEANUC01

2008-02-12 Thread Imbriale, Donald
Shmuel,

Why do you feel it is necessary to reply to a post that's almost three
weeks old and the thread has died some time ago?  

Don Imbriale

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/25/2008
   at 12:05 PM, Mark Zelden   said:

Over-simplified?  Sounds complicated.   More so then using a
JOBLIB/STEPLIB  and classpath pointing to a service directory when
running from a downleveled  driving system (IMO). 

I would advise pointing to *copies* of both, rather than to the targets
you're updating. but it's not my dog.
 



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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Moulder
-D M=CPU
 IEE174I 02.14.36 DISPLAY M 160
 PROCESSOR STATUS
 ID  CPU  SERIAL
 00  + *02097
 01  + *02097
 02  -
 03  -
 04  -
 05  -
 06  -
 07  -
 08  -
 09  -
 0A  -
 0B  -
 0C  -
 0D  -
 0E  -
 0F  -
 10  -
 11  N
 12  N
 13  N
 14  N
 15  N
 16  N
 17  N
 18  N
 19  N
 1A  N
 1B  N
 1C  N
 1D  N
 1E  N

 CPC ND = 002097.E40.IBM.02.000*
 CPC SI = 2097.719.IBM.02.000*
 CPC ID = 00
 CPC NAME = ZHE



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Can you cut and paste the display, please?

Chris Blaicher


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How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows up
as a
z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

 

What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines?

 

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Re: zOS 1.9 IEANUC01

2008-02-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/25/2008
   at 12:05 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Over-simplified?  Sounds complicated.   More so then using a
JOBLIB/STEPLIB  and classpath pointing to a service directory when
running from a downleveled  driving system (IMO). 

I would advise pointing to *copies* of both, rather than to the targets
you're updating. but it's not my dog.
 
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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Lars Poulsen

Tom Moulder wrote:

How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows up as a
z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines?


Slide number 10 in this presentation should answer your questions
in some detail:
http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf

The heading says: z9 BC model S07.

Google is your friend!

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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Edward Jaffe

George Fogg wrote:

Ed: The only exposure I see (and I'm streching it here) is that anyone that
has access to any MCS console with LOGON=OPTIONAL (or default) can issue *any*
command (of course, depending on the AUTH= parameter)and OPERCMDS checking is
basically bypassed because the user is not required to logon to the MCS
console.

So lets say I have access to your MCS console EDJXADM that has AUTH=MASTER. I
can issue the V CN(SMCS6001),LOGON=OPTIONAL) for your SMCS console,
therefore your SMCS console doesn't require *any* user that knows the VTAM
APPLID and SMCS console name to LOGON.


George, Until you posted this, I would have guessed that setting 
LOGON=OPTIONAL was invalid for SMCS consoles. But, I tried issuing this 
VARY CN command from my AUTH=MASTER EMCS console and -- Behold! -- the 
LOGON attribute on my SMCS console was faithfully changed to OPTIONAL. 
Now, I have an AUTH=MASTER SMCS back door to my system that anyone can 
exploit!


Is there no way to prevent the LOGON attribute from being changed for 
SMCS consoles??


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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
What would all of you consider a senior level systems programmer (how many
years of experience) ?

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Here is my opinion on Z/OS system programer staffing. 

When I decided to start looking for a new JOB in the mainframe world, I found

that many companies were looking for System Programmer Gods that knew 
about everything. This surprised me because I had enough work only working 
with implementation of OPC Scheduler, now known as TWS and other products 
installations. 

After that I started getting also the responsibility of OS390 - Z/OS 
installations, SMS, DFHSM implementation and Disaster Recovery Planing and 
execution. 

Right know I am one of the youngest System Programmer in my actual job. I 
decided to stay in the mainframe world even thou people said that mainframe 
was dying, but it has been difficult for me to find an attractive job in the
US. 
Everything is contracts and that is not paying as much as it used to. The 
people that have been in this field a long time know what I am talking about.

Besides when people see in my resume that I am currently living and working 
in Puerto Rico don't pay that much attention.

A lot of people that gratuated with me are just foucused and oriented to open

systems.

Now I am just wondering if I should have decided to work in Open Systems.

Anyway I could keep on writing but I'll start bouring people. 

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Blaicher, Chris
Can you cut and paste the display, please?

Chris Blaicher


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How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows up
as a
z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

 

What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines?

 

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The z9EC model number is 2097.

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How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows up as a
z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

 

What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines?

 

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 15:09 -0600, Tom Moulder wrote:
 How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows up as a
 z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

It just might not be a z9 ...
Now tell us Tom, how did you get hold of one of those ... already ???.

Looks like a (public) d'oh moment

Shane ...

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Re: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

2008-02-12 Thread Skip Robinson
Thanks to Peter and Barry for confirming that I'm not crazy. (They didn't
say that; I'm just reading between the lines.)

It really is the % that causes the problem. I tried changing it  to other
operators and all looks normal. This line occurs in my exec in the first
half. Everything in the Rexx following that point is hosed. Note that the
Rexx and this operation in particular execute exactly as expected. It's a
cosmetic problem only.

Support Center mentioned some HILITE-related APARs and wondered if some OEM
product is involved. I think it's clearly not working as designed. This is
not a huge problem, of course, but thanks for validating my observations.




   
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Since setting hilite explicitly to REXX eliminates the problem, it would
seem that automatic is not setting itself to REXX.  Since unnumbered and
FB don't have the problem but numbered VB does, one possibility is the
line number (which in this specific case is prior to the /*REXX*/) is
confusing hilite as it tries to determine the correct style.  In the
same vein, when the library LLQ is EXEC hilite has enough additional
information to figure out that this should be REXX.

The more interesting question (at least to me) is which hilite option
would find the percent so significant that havoc ensues.  I frequently
work in languages hilite doesn't know about but I've never seen it go
berserk.

-Original Message-
From: Skip Robinson [mailto:snip]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:07 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

In the course of writing a Rexx exec, I encountered an anomaly. I'd like
to know if it's just me or an actual aberration.

For the first time I used the arithmetic operator % (percent sign in the
US). This operator returns the integer portion of a quotient, as opposed
to // (double slash), which returns the remainder. This line appears to
cause a problem with ISPF highlighting:

s_time = ((h_curr % req_int) * req_int) - req_int

The problem shows up under a specific set of conditions:

1. The Rexx library does not have llq .EXEC. For example, mine is .CLIST
2. The library is RECFM VB 3. The Rexx is numbered.
4. HILITE is set to Automatic.

Under these conditions, the % wreaks havoc on highlighting.

If the library is called .EXEC or is FB, if the member is not numbered
(even in a VB library), or if HILITE is set explicitly to Rexx, then the
problem does not occur.

Am I crazy?

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
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2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Moulder
How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097?  It shows up as a
z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU).

 

What is it and how does it stack up against all the other z9 machines?

 

Tom Moulder


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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:34:15 -1000, Stephen Y Odo wrote:
 
...snipped... 
 
I think we're overworked.  But the plan was that we'd only have to carry
this workload for 5 years and then the mainframe would be gone and we'd
go back to normal workloads when we get integrated into our 18-man
Sun/Solaris SysAdmin pool.  We've been doing this for 18 years now ...
and management is projecting that we'll only need to do this for another
3 years ...
 
 
Lets see:  5 is to 18 as 3 is to ...  10.8?  (Not quite 'dog years' but you are 
more than halfway there.)  
 
(Or do you retire before then?)  
 
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Re: EMC Power Down/Up Billable

2008-02-12 Thread Doug Fuerst
EMC, like Sun and IBM and the rest, charge these days for everything. 
Since they hid the power button, and the things have to boot, it is 
usually better to have them do it. And I am a former FE.


Doug

At 15:02 12-02-08, you wrote:

The building will have its power reconditioned on Sunday with a total outage.
The batteries will not run that long forcing a complete system power down.
EMC is telling us that in order to power down/up their DMX boxes, this needs
to be done by an EMC CE, is not covered under the warranty or any existing
maintenance contract and is billable for DOWN and billable again for UP.
Although they are going to do it for nothing this time.

Have had IBM, STK, HDS, Itel, UNISYS, Burroughs, and even Calcomp DASD
over the years and it was always pushing the POWER OFF and POWER UP
buttons myself. Is it the general experience out their in the real world that
DASD vendors now charge for such an event and if so how much?

Curious in Washington DC.   Jim

Jim Marshall, Systems Software Engineer
Washington DC  20415

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EMC Power Down/Up Billable

2008-02-12 Thread Jim Marshall
The building will have its power reconditioned on Sunday with a total outage. 
The batteries will not run that long forcing a complete system power down. 
EMC is telling us that in order to power down/up their DMX boxes, this needs 
to be done by an EMC CE, is not covered under the warranty or any existing 
maintenance contract and is billable for DOWN and billable again for UP. 
Although they are going to do it for nothing this time.  

Have had IBM, STK, HDS, Itel, UNISYS, Burroughs, and even Calcomp DASD 
over the years and it was always pushing the POWER OFF and POWER UP 
buttons myself. Is it the general experience out their in the real world that 
DASD vendors now charge for such an event and if so how much?   

Curious in Washington DC.   Jim 

Jim Marshall, Systems Software Engineer
Washington DC  20415

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Re: Define more than 100 Consoles in a Plex

2008-02-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
Not really, it was more of a can this be done rather than an issue.

I know some shops are probably hitting this issue, but not me.  ;-) 

Lizette



The only way is to use EMCS consoles, i.e. SDSF.

BTW: do you really need 100 consoles ???


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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
This issue we have is the SMCS, ICC or any of these remote consoles don't time 
out.

Screen saver with a password.
Invoke through a session manager (TPX, SuperSession, etc) with a screen lock.

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Re: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

2008-02-12 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Since setting hilite explicitly to REXX eliminates the problem, it would
seem that automatic is not setting itself to REXX.  Since unnumbered and
FB don't have the problem but numbered VB does, one possibility is the
line number (which in this specific case is prior to the /*REXX*/) is
confusing hilite as it tries to determine the correct style.  In the
same vein, when the library LLQ is EXEC hilite has enough additional
information to figure out that this should be REXX.

The more interesting question (at least to me) is which hilite option
would find the percent so significant that havoc ensues.  I frequently
work in languages hilite doesn't know about but I've never seen it go
berserk.

-Original Message-
From: Skip Robinson [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:07 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

In the course of writing a Rexx exec, I encountered an anomaly. I'd like
to know if it's just me or an actual aberration.

For the first time I used the arithmetic operator % (percent sign in the
US). This operator returns the integer portion of a quotient, as opposed
to // (double slash), which returns the remainder. This line appears to
cause a problem with ISPF highlighting:

s_time = ((h_curr % req_int) * req_int) - req_int

The problem shows up under a specific set of conditions:

1. The Rexx library does not have llq .EXEC. For example, mine is .CLIST
2. The library is RECFM VB 3. The Rexx is numbered.
4. HILITE is set to Automatic.

Under these conditions, the % wreaks havoc on highlighting.

If the library is called .EXEC or is FB, if the member is not numbered
(even in a VB library), or if HILITE is set explicitly to Rexx, then the
problem does not occur.

Am I crazy?

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread George Fogg
 Mark Jacobs wrote:
 Basically he insisted that we could do more stuff with an SMCS
 console that we could with a EMCS console.


 Console authority is a combination of the AUTH= attribute of the console
 and any security profiles (e.g., OPERCMDS) established to protect
 specific commands that might be issued.by certain users/consoles. That's it.

 Perhaps if you issue D C,* from both console environments, it will
 provide a warm/fuzzy for him/her. For example, here is an AUTH=MASTER
 EMCS console:

 |IEE889I 09.45.12 CONSOLE DISPLAY 339
 |MSG: CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=5LIM=20   SYS=MVS60 PFK=00
 | CONSOLEID  --- SPECIFICATIONS ---
 | EDJXADMCOND=A  AUTH=MASTER
 |  EJES  MFORM=T LEVEL=ALL
 |  MVS60 ROUTCDE=NONE
 |CMDSYS=MVS60
 |MSCOPE=*ALL
 |INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N

 And, here is an AUTH=MASTER SMCS console with the same user logged on.

 |IEE889I 09.44.53 CONSOLE DISPLAY FRAME LAST   F  E   SYS=MVS60
 |MSG: CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=5LIM=20   SYS=MVS60 PFK=00
 | CONSOLEID  --- SPECIFICATIONS ---
 | SMCS6001   10  COND=A,SM   AUTH=MASTER   NBUF=0
 |  A60TCP41  AREA=Z,AMFORM=S,J
 |  MVS60 DEL=RD   RTME=1/4RNUM=5SEG=16CON=N
 |  EDJXADM   USE=FC   LEVEL=ALL PFKTAB=PFKTAB1
 |ROUTCDE=1-2,7-10,16-96,99-112,115-128
 |LOGON=REQUIRED
 |CMDSYS=MVS60
 |MSCOPE=*ALL
 |MONITOR=JOBNAMES
 |INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N

 Where's the exposure?

Ed: The only exposure I see (and I'm streching it here) is that anyone that
has access to any MCS console with LOGON=OPTIONAL (or default) can issue *any*
command (of course, depending on the AUTH= parameter)and OPERCMDS checking is
basically bypassed because the user is not required to logon to the MCS
console.

So lets say I have access to your MCS console EDJXADM that has AUTH=MASTER. I
can issue the V CN(SMCS6001),LOGON=OPTIONAL) for your SMCS console,
therefore your SMCS console doesn't require *any* user that knows the VTAM
APPLID and SMCS console name to LOGON. And, note the fact that any commands
from your SMCS console with AUTH=MASTER will basically bypass OPERCMDS
checking just like the MCS console EDJADM.

OPERCMDS checking is only comes into play if a user has logged onto a MCS or
SMCS console, just like any EMCS console.
George Fogg

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Re: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?

2008-02-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Confirmed, including the difference between HILITE REXX and HILITE AUTO.
Everything following the % character that is not inside quotes is
changed to blue, inside quotes stays bright white as in normal hilite
mode.

Looks to me like the HILITE AUTO scan mode doesn't account for the
8-digit line number very well.  Notice that with HILITE AUTO, leading
keywords in column 9 are NOT highlighted, while with HILITE REXX they
*are* highlighted.

z/OS 1.8 here.

Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Skip Robinson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:07 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Rexx HILITE issue: am I crazy?
 
 In the course of writing a Rexx exec, I encountered an anomaly. I'd
like
 to know if it's just me or an actual aberration.
 
 For the first time I used the arithmetic operator % (percent sign in
the
 US). This operator returns the integer portion of a quotient, as
opposed
 to // (double slash), which returns the remainder. This line appears
to
 cause a problem with ISPF highlighting:
 
 s_time = ((h_curr % req_int) * req_int) - req_int
 
 The problem shows up under a specific set of conditions:
 
 1. The Rexx library does not have llq .EXEC. For example, mine is
.CLIST
 2. The library is RECFM VB
 3. The Rexx is numbered.
 4. HILITE is set to Automatic.
 
 Under these conditions, the % wreaks havoc on highlighting.
 
 If the library is called .EXEC or is FB, if the member is not numbered
 (even in a VB library), or if HILITE is set explicitly to Rexx, then
the
 problem does not occur.
 
 Am I crazy?
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Re: Define more than 100 Consoles in a Plex

2008-02-12 Thread R.S.

Lizette Koehler wrote:

Is there a way to define more than 100 consoles in a SYSPLEX?

I was reading the info on the CONSOLXX member and it states

In CONSOLxx, you define multiple console support (MCS) and SNA multiple console support (SMCS) consoles. You define the specific characteristics of up to 99 MCS/SMCS consoles and the system console. 


Just wondering if there was a way to define more than 100 in the plex.  I 
beleive I could create individual CONSOLxx so each LPAR had its on set of 100.  
But is there a way to use one CONSOLxx member and define more than 100?


The only way is to use EMCS consoles, i.e. SDSF.

BTW: do you really need 100 consoles ???

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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Jacobs
Edward Jaffe wrote:
 Mark Jacobs wrote:
 Basically he insisted that we could do more stuff with an SMCS
 console that we could with a EMCS console.
   

 Console authority is a combination of the AUTH= attribute of the
 console and any security profiles (e.g., OPERCMDS) established to
 protect specific commands that might be issued.by certain
 users/consoles. That's it.

 Perhaps if you issue D C,* from both console environments, it will
 provide a warm/fuzzy for him/her. For example, here is an AUTH=MASTER
 EMCS console:

 |IEE889I 09.45.12 CONSOLE DISPLAY 339
 |MSG: CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=5LIM=20   SYS=MVS60 PFK=00
 | CONSOLEID  --- SPECIFICATIONS ---
 | EDJXADMCOND=A  AUTH=MASTER
 |  EJES  MFORM=T LEVEL=ALL
 |  MVS60 ROUTCDE=NONE
 |CMDSYS=MVS60
 |MSCOPE=*ALL
 |INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N

 And, here is an AUTH=MASTER SMCS console with the same user logged on.

 |IEE889I 09.44.53 CONSOLE DISPLAY FRAME LAST   F  E   SYS=MVS60
 |MSG: CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=5LIM=20   SYS=MVS60 PFK=00
 | CONSOLEID  --- SPECIFICATIONS ---
 | SMCS6001   10  COND=A,SM   AUTH=MASTER   NBUF=0
 |  A60TCP41  AREA=Z,AMFORM=S,J
 |  MVS60 DEL=RD   RTME=1/4RNUM=5SEG=16CON=N
 |  EDJXADM   USE=FC   LEVEL=ALL PFKTAB=PFKTAB1
 |ROUTCDE=1-2,7-10,16-96,99-112,115-128
 |LOGON=REQUIRED
 |CMDSYS=MVS60
 |MSCOPE=*ALL
 |MONITOR=JOBNAMES
 |INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N

 Where's the exposure?


I agree that there is no more exposure if the same user which will have
the same authority has access to an SMCS console vs an EMCS console.

I just have to convince the ops manager now.

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Re: Define more than 100 Consoles in a Plex

2008-02-12 Thread Matthew Stitt
The console is currently at 99 consoles for an entire sysplex.  This
includes SMCS consoles.  If your systems are connected together in at least
a Basic Sysplex, the consoles on each system contribute to the 99 consoles
limit.

I'm not aware of this limit being removed.  I do know IBM is working to
change this, not sure what the status of the project is.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:49:51 -0500, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there a way to define more than 100 consoles in a SYSPLEX?

I was reading the info on the CONSOLXX member and it states

In CONSOLxx, you define multiple console support (MCS) and SNA multiple
console support (SMCS) consoles. You define the specific characteristics of
up to 99 MCS/SMCS consoles and the system console.

Just wondering if there was a way to define more than 100 in the plex.  I
beleive I could create individual CONSOLxx so each LPAR had its on set of
100.  But is there a way to use one CONSOLxx member and define more than 100?

Lizette

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Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Ross
I think you have a bug in your call to CEEENV. You have:

  call 'ceeenv' using update-req, six, file-name,
   val-length, val-ptr, fc

call 'ceeenv' using update-req, six, file-name,
   val-length, env-val, fc


John,

  Steve is right, his example is correct and yours is not.
LE wants an address of an address of the env var value.
The LE books says the environment name should also be an
address of an address but the books are wrong.  I will get
them fixed.  I was just coding calls to CEEENV to update
my SHARE presentation 'Got COBOL' yesterday and running
tests on this very service!

Cheers,
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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Edward Jaffe

Mark Jacobs wrote:

Basically he insisted that we could do more stuff with an SMCS
console that we could with a EMCS console.
  


Console authority is a combination of the AUTH= attribute of the console 
and any security profiles (e.g., OPERCMDS) established to protect 
specific commands that might be issued.by certain users/consoles. That's it.


Perhaps if you issue D C,* from both console environments, it will 
provide a warm/fuzzy for him/her. For example, here is an AUTH=MASTER 
EMCS console:


|IEE889I 09.45.12 CONSOLE DISPLAY 339
|MSG: CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=5LIM=20   SYS=MVS60 PFK=00
| CONSOLEID  --- SPECIFICATIONS ---
| EDJXADMCOND=A  AUTH=MASTER
|  EJES  MFORM=T LEVEL=ALL
|  MVS60 ROUTCDE=NONE
|CMDSYS=MVS60
|MSCOPE=*ALL
|INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N

And, here is an AUTH=MASTER SMCS console with the same user logged on.

|IEE889I 09.44.53 CONSOLE DISPLAY FRAME LAST   F  E   SYS=MVS60
|MSG: CURR=0LIM=5000 RPLY:CURR=5LIM=20   SYS=MVS60 PFK=00
| CONSOLEID  --- SPECIFICATIONS ---
| SMCS6001   10  COND=A,SM   AUTH=MASTER   NBUF=0
|  A60TCP41  AREA=Z,AMFORM=S,J
|  MVS60 DEL=RD   RTME=1/4RNUM=5SEG=16CON=N
|  EDJXADM   USE=FC   LEVEL=ALL PFKTAB=PFKTAB1
|ROUTCDE=1-2,7-10,16-96,99-112,115-128
|LOGON=REQUIRED
|CMDSYS=MVS60
|MSCOPE=*ALL
|MONITOR=JOBNAMES
|INTIDS=N UNKNIDS=N

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Re: VLF - What's in your VLF

2008-02-12 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Kees,

Two questions there,
1. CLASS NAME(PR*)  IBM Data Propagators. Is mainly for IMS ?
2. We only have CA-ENDEVOR... a bit of a waste to run CAS9 just for one
product, Not sure if CLASS NAME(CAENFU) CAIENF/USS cache. Will
make that much difference to us.

Regards

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davis.edu...
 What are the entries in your VLF that give your system a big
performance
 boost?
 

CLASS NAME(CSVLLA) 
CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)
CLASS NAME(CAENFU)  CAIENF/USS cache.
CLASS NAME(PR*) IBM Data Propagators.
CLASS NAME(IGGCAS) 

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Re: 2097?

2008-02-12 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:44:43 -0600, Chase, John wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL

 The z9EC model number is 2097.

That's interesting  Our z9EC claims to be a 2094.


And our z9BC claims to be a 2096-S07-T03.

What has the world come to when you can't even trust the machines ???

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Re: SQA Expansion

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The question is after SQA converts ECSA to SQA the CSA that has been converted 
can not be returned back to CSA. True. 
 
Where is that documented ?
 
First, try the messages and codes manual for the IEA (I believe) message.
Then follow the Yellow Brick Road.

FWIW, a little conversion is not a problem.
Especially under 31-bit, it beat having the 1M round off for below the liner.

The definition of 'little bit', as always, depends on your installation needs.

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Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-12 Thread Dave Barry
SPs and UDFs, yes.  But the confusion is in referring in short-hand to
the WLM address space.  WLM has its own address space called WLM.  SPs
and UDFs run in the WLM-managed SPAS address space arbitrarily named in
the APPLENV definition. 

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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:16 PM
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Subject: Re: WLM for toddlers

Actually the terminology for SPAs applies also to UDFs (user defined
functions).

The SQL DDL for a UDF includes the name of the external load module (8
char load module) and the WLM environment which in some of the IBM
example code is something like WLMENV1.

WLM starts up an address space to execute the SP or UDF. The WLM address
space is configured with number of tasks with (NUMTCB) etc.

A simple example is the DSN8.DAYNAME UDF. The DDL is shown below:

CREATE FUNCTION DSN8.DAYNAME
(VARCHAR(10) FOR SBCS DATA CCSID EBCDIC) RETURNS VARCHAR(9) FOR SBCS
DATA CCSID EBCDIC SPECIFIC DSN8EUDNV EXTERNAL NAME 'DSN8EUDN'
LANGUAGE C
DETERMINISTIC PARAMETER STYLE DB2SQL FENCED CALLED ON NULL INPUT NO SQL
NO EXTERNAL ACTION NO SCRATCHPAD NO FINAL CALL ALLOW PARALLEL NO DBINFO
NO COLLID WLM ENVIRONMENT DB28WLM1 ASUTIME LIMIT 5 STAY RESIDENT NO
PROGRAM TYPE SUB SECURITY DB2 STOP AFTER SYSTEM DEFAULT FAILURES INHERIT
SPECIAL REGISTERS ;

So at our shop we have a WLM address space called DB28WLM1. The external
function is coded in C.

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Re: EMC Power Down/Up Billable

2008-02-12 Thread R.S.
IMHO it is BIG nonsense to require FE assistance to power up/down the 
machine. VERY BIG.
Billable or not is another story (however IMHO such service should be 
always included in th service contract).


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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Gary Green
The expert in the eyes of HR sounds appropriate.  Perhaps that is why he got 
the interview in the first place.

As for waiting until a subsequent interview.  Not there.  He was interviewed by 
all parties involved in one session, including the IMS Systems Programmer who 
was soon to be, and probably now is, long gone.  Maybe he is back there as a 
contractor on a PT basis to keep them covered; my friend does not know.


 On Tue Feb 12 10:44 , Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

IMHO, your candidate's -big- mistake was misjudging his/her audience.
Installing a product puts one on a 'expert' level in HR-speak.   

The second mistake, again IMHO, was that the candidate used too many
words too early. The desire to be honest and do a full discloser perhaps
should wait for the third or fourth interview. Presumably that would be
with someone that would know what the candidate is talking about. 



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Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pat Mihalec
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:16 PM
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Subject: Question on Out Sourcing

I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that
mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance
licenses?
SNIP

It depends. If your contract says that your equipment, operations, etc.
are managed at the new data center by the outsourcer's people, then you
probably pay the software license fees.

If your contract says that your system will be migrated into their
environment... Now the licensing of software is based on the
outsourcer's equipment... So your charges will include your pro-rata
share.

I have seen both situations used by the same outsourcing company.

Regards,
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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
I would say somewhere between 5 and 10 years experience depending on
what and where the experience occurred.  I worked in a sweatshop for my
first 8 years, and probably got 20 good years of experience there.  But
some people spend their first 5-10 years only installing a couple of OEM
products, so I would not call them senior.  

It all depends on the level of experience, but I would say that a senior
systems programmer should be able to do the following (and have 5-10
years work experience):

1)  Install ANY OEM product with no help. 
2)  Install z/OS or another Serverpac with no help. 
3)  Debug a dump with no help. 
4)  Do at least some minimal assembler coding 
5)  Understand and be able to do most SMP/E work (like investigating
sysmods and coding usermods). 

This is just my opinion. 

Thanks

C. Todd Burrell
Lead z/OS Systems Programmer
ITSO
(404) 723-2017 (Cell)
 

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Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

What would all of you consider a senior level systems programmer (how
many years of experience) ?

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

Here is my opinion on Z/OS system programer staffing. 

When I decided to start looking for a new JOB in the mainframe world, I
found

that many companies were looking for System Programmer Gods that knew
about everything. This surprised me because I had enough work only
working with implementation of OPC Scheduler, now known as TWS and other
products installations. 

After that I started getting also the responsibility of OS390 - Z/OS
installations, SMS, DFHSM implementation and Disaster Recovery Planing
and execution. 

Right know I am one of the youngest System Programmer in my actual job.
I decided to stay in the mainframe world even thou people said that
mainframe was dying, but it has been difficult for me to find an
attractive job in the US. 
Everything is contracts and that is not paying as much as it used to.
The people that have been in this field a long time know what I am
talking about.

Besides when people see in my resume that I am currently living and
working in Puerto Rico don't pay that much attention.

A lot of people that gratuated with me are just foucused and oriented to
open

systems.

Now I am just wondering if I should have decided to work in Open
Systems.

Anyway I could keep on writing but I'll start bouring people. 

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Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread Pat Mihalec
I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean 
you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses?

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Gary Green
I never thought about his retirement like that, but it does describe him.  He, 
like me, loves what he does and would hate to do anything else.

As for being secure, perhaps.  I do know he wants to move on so he can settle 
down, whatever that means.  If they were to call back, I do know he would take 
their call.  Beyond that...


 On Tue Feb 12 10:39 , 'Chase, John' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
 
 Companies may be looking for System Programmer Gods..., but 
 they only seem willing to pay for newbies.
 
 An associate has been looking to move on for some time now.  
 If, IF, he gets to speak with someone at the hiring company 
 (3 out of 14) they either reject him out of hand because, he 
 believes, they can determine his age or probable starting 
 salary, or they think they can get someone younger at a more 
 reasonable salary.  He is NOT asking for the world, just a 
 good place he can spend the next 20 years or so. (he says he 
 has no intention of retiring).

As in, I'll think about retiring when I'm dead.?

 He makes these assumptions because each resume submitted is 
 targeted to the hiring requirements so that alone should 
 garner at least an exploratory telephone call from the HR department.
 
 One interview back in September called for a very senior 
 systems programmer with some IMS knowledge, which he does not 
 have, but they did agree to interview him.  During the 
 interview, he reiterated his lack of deep IMS knowledge (only 
 installed it once a few years ago), but said he could be 
 walking within a couple of weeks and running within a month.  
 They never even returned his follow-up telephone calls.  The 
 company is STILL looking...  At least that is what he told me 
 over the weekend.

Sounds like they don't know what they want.  Yet that same company would
probably hire a freshly-minted MBA as a consultant at $300/hr without
batting an eyelash.

Hopefully your colleague is sufficiently secure that, should they ever
call back saying come on down, he could (and would) reply, You had
your chance.

-jc-


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Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:06:57 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote:
 From Shell Script Programming in z/OS UNIX
(http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/u515descr.htm):

Bad URL.  Might help to delimit it with blanks:

( http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/u515descr.htm ):

-exec command \;   - runs specified command; if command
   contains this string {}, the string
   is replaced by the found file

also, later...

   find . -name 'string' -exec grep -i fa {} \;

If you're doing this, I'd suggest:

find . -name 'string' -exec grep -i fa {} /dev/null \;

... to cause the filenames to appear in the output.

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Re: VTOC size

2008-02-12 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
 1. How long does it take to make a tape backup of a 32760 cylinder
volume?

We have 1.3 TB allocated on Production, Our weekly full volume backups
using FDR starts Saturday evening 18:00, and runs to 4 drives (ESCON)
that creates the master and the duplicate at the same time 2x2, and it
runs for 8 / 9 hours now that we have an ATL that does not have to wait
for ops to load the tapes. Also we use Green tapes, which means they do
not have to fill a lorry load to send it off to DR site. I am sure if we
weren't shutting down, we would have received the money to get FICON,
which would have improved the time. Most of our restores comes from an
incorrectly configured FDR migration tool, that migrates the datasets,
just before someone needs it again, sad, but we have changed it a few
times but just haven't reached that optimum date that will minimize the
restores, Luckily BOB, the robot is not complaining, and his hand is too
new to have him dropping the tapes, so there is really no problem. On
all the other points, I fully agree with Jim.

Regards

Herbie

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Sent: 09 Februarie 2008 02:20
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: VTOC size

1.  Slightly less time than it takes to backup 32760/3339 (approx. 9.81)

mod 3 volumes that are being stacked to the same output tape.  Figure 
some housekeeping occurs when the backup software finishes one volume  
then starts another.  The difference should be minuscule when total 
number of unused tracks is held constant.
2.  Modern tapes can hold multiple volumes, large or small.  They also 
record in a serpentine fashion, back  forth, so high speed positioning 
to a given location is quicker.
3.  From a dataset level backup, which is what should be used for this 
purpose, cylinder location is irrelevant.  Competent restore software 
should be able to restore a single dataset even from a full volume 
backup.  If the actual software in use cannot do this, and you don't 
have a dataset level backup available, then yes, restoring an entire 
large volume for a single dataset will take longer.  Note that the 
sooner the accidental modification is detected, the more likely it is 
that the changed data has not even been backed up yet, the likelier the 
latest dataset backup is valid.  Simple, quick restore.  For deleted 
datasets,  the recovery could be done months later, depending on your 
deleted dataset backup retention policy.

Skip Robinson wrote:
 The idea of massive volumes is intriguing, but my concern would be
 backup/restore. On some our non-z platforms we have huge volumes many
times
 the size of 3390-3. When one of them went south a while back, it took
hours
 and hours to get it restored. With RAID arrays, of course, that's not
 supposed to happen; I think it was a problem with an SVC.

 On the mainframe we take frequent full volume backups. The likelihood
of
 true failover (DR) is minuscule, and we use XRC mirroring for that
 contingency anyway. On the other hand the probability of having to
retrieve
 an accidentally deleted or modified file is huge--it happens all the
time
 even for sysprog finger checks.

 1. How long does it take to make a tape backup of a 32760 cylinder
volume?
 2. Where does that backup live?
 3. How long does it take to restore a critical 10 track file from two
weeks
 ago that happens to live on the corner of cylinder 31753?

 .

   

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Luis M Martinez
Franky,

Don't worry about it  be happy.

Actually that odd thoughts regarding to location and nationality .. are 
changing. Every day more and more recruiters are looking for ZOS people with 
expertise and willing to relocation (not a country passport or privileged  
community members) ... due to mainframe is not dying  the mainframe 
people is who is retiring or   it's hard to say  is dying.


Many countries are experiencing with teaching again the mainframe on 
Universities or outsourcing providers that prepares your own resources. 
Obviusly in order to preparing people for the entire world, and those people 
truly are populating the world, but IMO the experience is better yet.


Keep on fighting. Your only concern must be the contract , travel and 
rellocation conditions that you can negotiate.

Glood look
P.D. Regards to Ever-guys  

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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Steve Comstock

Steve Flynn wrote:

On Feb 12, 2008 4:24 PM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Steve Flynn wrote:




You're probably already aware but the Firefox addon NoScript allows
you to set up whitelists of sites which are allowed to run Javascript
wqhen you visit them. It's intelligent enough so that if you permit
site A to run scripts and Site A calls a script located on site B,
Site B is still blocked.


H. Where do you find this? I went to the Firefox site
and did not find NoScript in the list of addons or plugins.



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722



Thanks, Steve and Binyamin; got it; installed it;
tested it; like it already.

Kind regards,

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Hal Merritt
IMHO, your candidate's -big- mistake was misjudging his/her audience.
Installing a product puts one on a 'expert' level in HR-speak.   

The second mistake, again IMHO, was that the candidate used too many
words too early. The desire to be honest and do a full discloser perhaps
should wait for the third or fourth interview. Presumably that would be
with someone that would know what the candidate is talking about. 

 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Green
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

Companies may be looking for System Programmer Gods..., but they only
seem willing to pay for newbies.

An associate has been looking to move on for some time now.  If, IF, he
gets to speak with someone at the hiring company (3 out of 14) they
either reject him out of hand because, he believes, they can determine
his age or probable starting salary, or they think they can get someone
younger at a more reasonable salary.  He is NOT asking for the world,
just a good place he can spend the next 20 years or so. (he says he has
no intention of retiring).

He makes these assumptions because each resume submitted is targeted to
the hiring requirements so that alone should garner at least an
exploratory telephone call from the HR department.

One interview back in September called for a very senior systems
programmer with some IMS knowledge, which he does not have, but they did
agree to interview him.  During the interview, he reiterated his lack of
deep IMS knowledge (only installed it once a few years ago), but said he
could be walking within a couple of weeks and running within a month.
They never even returned his follow-up telephone calls.  The company is
STILL looking...  At least that is what he told me over the weekend.

 
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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread George Fogg
Ed said:
It turns out that VARY CN,LOGON= requires an AUTH=MASTER console, and is
explicitly protected -- separate from other VARY CN -- with the
MVS.VARYLOGON.CN  profile in the OPERCMDS class. Use of this profile should
effectively prevent EMCS or SMCS consoles from issuing VARY CN,LOGON= to
change the LOGON status  of another SMCS console to OPTIONAL.

Well, not quite true Ed. However, I do agree with you that issuing the V
CN(console_name),LOGON=OPTIONAL you mentioned in a previous post provides a
backdoor to allow anyone (including undefined RACF userids) that know the
SMCS APPLID and console name to use the SMCS console without any user
validation and if AUTH=MASTER is specified then they have the keys to your
kingdom. It's not a well known feature and that's why I mentioned it in
the first place.

Also, I didn't mentioned the fact that a user that has access to a MCS or
SMCS console with AUTH=MASTER can change any console(s) authority, including
EMCS consoles. For example, if your SMCS console has AUTH=INFO then I could
change it to MASTER with the V console_name,AUTH=MASTER command or I can
even VARY offline a SMCS console by LU name. Something to think about.

Here's how MCS/SMCS console command authority works for the V
CN(SMCS6001),LOGON=OPTIONAL) command were talking about.

1.) I can issue this VARY from any MCS or SMCS console that I *didn't* logon
to (LOGON=OPTIONAL) if AUTH=MASTER is defined in the CONSOLxx parmlib member
for  the console(s) because the OPERCMDS class check is bypassed, even if
the OPERCMDS class is active.
RULE: If I'm not logged on to a MCS/SMCS console then basically,no OPERCMDS
class checking.

2.) If I logon to a MCS or SMCS console and if the OPERCMDS class is ACTIVE
and there's a OPERCMDS profile to cover this VARY command and I have CONTROL
access then I can issue this VARY command. In this case, the AUTH=MASTER
parameter in CONSOLxx is ignored.
RULE: If logged onto a MCS or SMCS console and OPERCMDS class is active then
console services will check if the userid used to  log on with has CONTROL
authority to the OPERCMDS class resource MVS.VERYLOGON.CN before the AUTH=
parameter in CONSOLxx is checked for MASTER authority.

3.) If I logon to a MCS or SMCS console and if the OPERCMDS class is active
and there *isn't* a profile to protect this VARY command then I can issue
this  VARY command if AUTH=MASTER authority is specified in the CONSOLxx
statement for the MCS or SMCS console.

For EMCS consoles that issue this VARY command.
Authority to issue a command from an EMCS session comes from:
1.) If the OPERCMDS class is active and a profile is found that protects
this VARY command (MVS.VERYLOGON.CN--or some generic profile) in the
OPERCMDS class  and gives the EMCS console user at least CONTROL authority
or,
2.) If the OPERCMDS class is active and no profile is found that covers this
VARY command issued from the EMCS session then,
a) if the AUTH authority in the user's OPERPARM segment is MASTER via
the RACF command ALU userid OPERPARM(AUTH(MASTER)) then the access to this
VARY  command will be granted or,
b.) If the EMCS user doesn't have an OPERPARM segment and *if* the
MCSOPER macro call for the EMCS console session used to issue this VARY
command passes  a OPERPARM data area with the AUTH authority bit set on for
MASTER (MCSOMSTR) in byte MCSOATH1 then this VARY command will be allowed.
If no OPERPARM data  area is passed in MCSOPER and the user doesn't have a
OPERPARM segment then the dfault console command authority for an EMCS
session is AUTH=INFO, therefore  this VARY command will fail.
3.) If the OPERCMDS class is not active then see (a) and (b) above.

You can get very grandular and grant or deny access on who (userid or
console name) or the Port of Entry of where the command came from in the
MVS command exit(s). On the other hand, you could make sure the command is
always executed by passing a trusted token in the MGCRE macro call or set
the  MGCEFAST bit on in the MGCRE parameter list so AUTH=MASTER in the
OPERPARM segment or OPERPARM data area or CONTROL access to MVC.VERYLOGON.CN
isn't  necessary. Not sure why I mentioned this outside of giving some
auditors a heartburn :-).

SOME Auto operations package would be a way to stop this VARY command from
being issued as Walt Farrell and Ted MacNeil mentioned.
George Fogg

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Re: EMC Power Down/Up Billable

2008-02-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
That was the information I was also given by EMC.  Their CE had to be on site 
and I think it was also billable.

Lizette




The building will have its power reconditioned on Sunday with a total outage. 
The batteries will not run that long forcing a complete system power down. 
EMC is telling us that in order to power down/up their DMX boxes, this needs 
to be done by an EMC CE, is not covered under the warranty or any existing 
maintenance contract and is billable for DOWN and billable again for UP. 
Although they are going to do it for nothing this time.  

Have had IBM, STK, HDS, Itel, UNISYS, Burroughs, and even Calcomp DASD 
over the years and it was always pushing the POWER OFF and POWER UP 
buttons myself. Is it the general experience out their in the real world that 
DASD vendors now charge for such an event and if so how much?   


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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Jacobs
Edward Jaffe wrote:
 Mark Jacobs wrote:
 Last year I attempted to implement SMCS console support to provide the
 various support teams console access whenever TSO/SDSF isn't available.

 Our operations manager nixed the plan for what he thought were security
 reasons.

 Such as??

Basically he insisted that we could do more stuff with an SMCS
console that we could with a EMCS console.

I think he got spooked with the CONSOLE piece of the acronym since he
didn't want consoles active anywhere other than in secure locations.

I guess he didn't understand that when a user enters a command via the
SDSF command line an EMCS session is started.

 Are there any differences in security related stuff between SMCS
 console capabilities and an SDSF (EMCS) console? We would require the
 user to logon to the SMCS application so RACF would only grant access to
 authorized personal and all other RACF profiles/rules would be in effect
 for that user.
   

 The port of entry on the UTOKEN specified via MGCRE will be different.
 (One is a console. The other, a TSO user.) The only way I can envision
 that making any substantive difference is if you go out of your way to
 differentiate them -- for example, by specifying WHEN CONSOLE()
 on your OPERCMDS resource profile definitions.



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Time Customer Service
Tampa, FL


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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:24:15 -0700, Steve Comstock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



H. Where do you find this? I went to the Firefox site
and did not find NoScript in the list of addons or plugins.

Google is your friend here. I just typed in 'firefox noscript' and it was
the first hit. Installed and running, thanks everyone for the pointer.

Seb

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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:24:15 -0700 Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:H. Where do you find this? I went to the Firefox site
:and did not find NoScript in the list of addons or plugins.

http://noscript.net/

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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
IMHO it all depends how you define Sysprog. I have been in very nice
sysprog jobs where you can actually get on with the sysprogging, and
than I have been others where you spend more time babysitting the COBOL
programmers who are 'business-orientated-specialists' they know the
intrigued details of the layouts of the files, fields, etc, rate
calculations, etc... but cannot code JCL, cannot understand that a
development storage pool will fill-up if... Then there is the missing
scheduling specialist / ops analyst... All these things take up
additional sysprog time if they are not in place.

So depending on what is exactly expected. If all the other structures
are in place, like OPS Analysts, Change management... the number of
actual sysprogs can drop. 

The other factor that has an influence is whether your site wants to be
leading / bleeding edge or just a few months behind the rest of the
pack.

Regards

Herbie


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Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

I think many of the estimates people have givin on this thread seem
really high for the number of sysprogs to staff a z/OS site.  At PH,
for the last 10 years or so, we had 3 sysprogs.  We only had a 115 MIP
machine, so were very small.  

I know of a couple of companies in Milwaukee, where the total sysprogs
are in the 4 to 8 range - i think closer to 4 than 8.  They both are
very large.  I know one has at least 15 to 20 Lpars on several machines.
The other is just one of the larger z boxes, and I don't know how many
Lpars there are.  My last job had 4 sysprogs with about 2,000 MIPS.
They only had 4 Lpars on 2 CPUs.  
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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Steve Comstock

Steve Flynn wrote:

On Feb 12, 2008 11:29 AM, Martin Packer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



And yes I do recognise that javascript is a potential attack vector. Which
is why I'm on FF 3 Beta 2 (soon to be Beta 3), upgrade all the machines in
the house to the latest 2.0.0.x promptly, and follow the nightly build
bugfixes here:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23sid=b4ed55acd37ee85978b45a44bb031fc2



You're probably already aware but the Firefox addon NoScript allows
you to set up whitelists of sites which are allowed to run Javascript
wqhen you visit them. It's intelligent enough so that if you permit
site A to run scripts and Site A calls a script located on site B,
Site B is still blocked.



H. Where do you find this? I went to the Firefox site
and did not find NoScript in the list of addons or plugins.


Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

303-393-8716
http://www.trainersfriend.com

  z/OS Application development made easier
* Our classes include
   + How things work
   + Programming examples with realistic applications
   + Starter / skeleton code
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Re: Messages after HCD Activate

2008-02-12 Thread Schwartz, Alan
Thanks.  Makes sense now that you pointed it out to me.

Alan Schwartz
Affiliated Computer Services
Infrastructure Management Sr Analyst
612-726-4505


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Of Bob Rutledge
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Messages after HCD Activate

Schwartz, Alan wrote:

...

 These continued for a number of devices and then stopped due to excessive
 syslog messages.  I'm trying
 To understand what these notes mean.  Where are these Notes messages
 documented?  

Under IOS500I.

Bob


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Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Steve Comstock

Luis M Martinez wrote:

According to the link posted I'd use:

find . -exec grep www.athabasca {} \;   From your working Directory
find /my_path -exec grep www.athabasca {} \;   From whatever path


I've never used the '{}' notation ... try first without the quotes.



From Shell Script Programming in z/OS UNIX
(http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/u515descr.htm):

-exec command \;   - runs specified command; if command
  contains this string {}, the string
  is replaced by the found file

also, later...

  find . -name 'string' -exec grep -i fa {} \;

or

  grep -i fa  $(find . -name 'in*')

...

generally the second is faster.




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303-393-8716
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* Our classes include
   + How things work
   + Programming examples with realistic applications
   + Starter / skeleton code
   + Complete working programs
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Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:25:35 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:

Using jar requires that the file be first stored in an HFS file,
since jar can only process files, and not stdin.

Will it process character special files, e.g. /dev/fd/0?

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Re: SMCS Console Question

2008-02-12 Thread Edward Jaffe

Mark Jacobs wrote:

Last year I attempted to implement SMCS console support to provide the
various support teams console access whenever TSO/SDSF isn't available.

Our operations manager nixed the plan for what he thought were security
reasons.


Such as??


Are there any differences in security related stuff between SMCS
console capabilities and an SDSF (EMCS) console? We would require the
user to logon to the SMCS application so RACF would only grant access to
authorized personal and all other RACF profiles/rules would be in effect
for that user.
  


The port of entry on the UTOKEN specified via MGCRE will be different. 
(One is a console. The other, a TSO user.) The only way I can envision 
that making any substantive difference is if you go out of your way to 
differentiate them -- for example, by specifying WHEN CONSOLE() on 
your OPERCMDS resource profile definitions.


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Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-12 Thread Gary Green
Companies may be looking for System Programmer Gods..., but they only seem 
willing to pay for newbies.

An associate has been looking to move on for some time now.  If, IF, he gets to 
speak with someone at the hiring company (3 out of 14) they either reject him 
out of hand because, he believes, they can determine his age or probable 
starting salary, or they think they can get someone younger at a more 
reasonable salary.  He is NOT asking for the world, just a good place he can 
spend the next 20 years or so. (he says he has no intention of retiring).

He makes these assumptions because each resume submitted is targeted to the 
hiring requirements so that alone should garner at least an exploratory 
telephone call from the HR department.

One interview back in September called for a very senior systems programmer 
with some IMS knowledge, which he does not have, but they did agree to 
interview him.  During the interview, he reiterated his lack of deep IMS 
knowledge (only installed it once a few years ago), but said he could be 
walking within a couple of weeks and running within a month.  They never even 
returned his follow-up telephone calls.  The company is STILL looking...  At 
least that is what he told me over the weekend.


 On Tue Feb 12  9:40 , Frank Alequin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Here is my opinion on Z/OS system programer staffing. 

When I decided to start looking for a new JOB in the mainframe world, I found 
that many companies were looking for System Programmer Gods that knew 
about everything. This surprised me because I had enough work only working 
with implementation of OPC Scheduler, now known as TWS and other products 
installations. 

After that I started getting also the responsibility of OS390 - Z/OS 
installations, SMS, DFHSM implementation and Disaster Recovery Planing and 
execution. 

Right know I am one of the youngest System Programmer in my actual job. I 
decided to stay in the mainframe world even thou people said that mainframe 
was dying, but it has been difficult for me to find an attractive job in the 
US. 
Everything is contracts and that is not paying as much as it used to. The 
people that have been in this field a long time know what I am talking about. 
Besides when people see in my resume that I am currently living and working 
in Puerto Rico don't pay that much attention.

A lot of people that gratuated with me are just foucused and oriented to open 
systems.

Now I am just wondering if I should have decided to work in Open Systems.

Anyway I could keep on writing but I'll start bouring people. 


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Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:38:28 -0600, Todd Burrell wrote:

I have a user that is using the GREP command in Unix.  Apparently he is

ITYM grep.

searching through an anourmous list of files, and he is exceeding the ARG_MAX
value for grep.  Is there a way on the mainframe to raise this value?  I have
looked through the manuals and I don't see any way to change this, but I
might have missed something.

find ... | xargs grep ...

Hammer and file to fit.

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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt) writes:
 Interesting observation about Firefox users - folks a bit more
 knowledgeable. Also interesting is that the risks of using IE are borne
 by the end user, not the company. Perhaps we need to give these
 companies some incentives to support Firefox to counter the pressure
 from MS.

before firefox, i was using mozilla with tab support ... i had folder
that i could click on and fetch 100 or so different websites in
different tabs (while i went out for coffee) ... this was somewhat to
compensate for having a dial line ... and objected to the latency with
standard web browsing.

the initial folder had lots of news sites ... and interesting links, I
would click for loading asyncronous in the background (into yet another
new tab). by the time, i had finished the first 100 tabs ... i might
have yet another 400-800 (or sometimes more) to look at. all of these
default to javascript off.

at the time, mozilla would start to noticeably bog down with more than
300-400 open tabs. Enabling javascript execution would really aggrevate
the situation ... to the point that mozilla would frequently hang saying
that some script was not responding (and required clicking on a popup).

firefox appeared and pushed as significantly more lightweight ... so i
switched (but still kept javascript disabled).

along the way, i found that it was possible to signal firefox externally
for loading URL into new tab. I moved the initial folder URLs to an
external process that used WGET to retrieve the initial URLs, and
(having saved the previous retrieval) check for new URLs on the pages.
Then the external process would remove any duplicates and cross-check
new URLs against the browser history information ... before signalling
firefox to load each URL into new tab (sort of analogous to very
targeted search engine process ... with background asyncronously
fetching of new web pages into new tabs).

recent post describing some of the process
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#32 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#35 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers

firefox has since moved its history (and other) information into
relational respository ... so looking at the history information
requires some sql queries.

for a little relational topic drift ... recent thread mentioning apple's
datacenter in the early 80s and what system did they use for running
their business:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#17 more on (the new 40+ yr old) 
virtualization 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#23 more on (the new 40+ yr old) 
virtualization 

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Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Darren Evans-Young
Try this:

ls -1 | xargs -i grep -l searchstring {}

Of course, replace searchstring with whatever you
are searching for. The option on ls is a one, not
the letter L. The option on grep is the letter L.

Darren

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Re: VSAM Surprise

2008-02-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Feb 2008 04:57:05 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 02/07/2008
   at 09:10 AM, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I remember having mods to open that prevented a user from opening a PDS
sequentially. Now we use an OEM product for that purpose. It should not
be allowed by default. I could never understand why IBM hasn't done
anything about this for so many years.

Because it would break a lot of existing code.
 
Way back when, I submitted a requirement to SHARE that an installation
be able to disable the overriding of DCB characteristics of existing
datasets on OPEN OUTPUT by parmlib or sysgen (it may have been that
long ago).  I think I had the statement that this allowed the one
percent of installation that wanted the ability to destroy their data
sets to continue to do so.

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Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Luis M Martinez
According to the link posted I'd use:

find . -exec grep www.athabasca {} \;   From your working Directory
find /my_path -exec grep www.athabasca {} \;   From whatever path


I've never used the '{}' notation ... try first without the quotes.

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Re: Messages after HCD Activate

2008-02-12 Thread Bob Rutledge

Schwartz, Alan wrote:

...


These continued for a number of devices and then stopped due to excessive
syslog messages.  I'm trying
To understand what these notes mean.  Where are these Notes messages
documented?  


Under IOS500I.

Bob

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Re: Messages after HCD Activate

2008-02-12 Thread Robert Justice
NOTE=0106,MBI COULD NOT BE ASSIGNED FOR DEVICE dev 
As a result of an ACTIVATE request, the system dynamically added a device. 
The system could not assign a measurement block index (MBI) to the device. 
In the message text: 


dev 
The device number. 


System Action: The system adds the device. The system does not gather any 
measurement data for the device. 

Operator Response: ReIPL the system if you want the system to automatically 
measure tape and direct access storage devices (DASD). 

System Programmer Response: Update the CMB parameter in the IEASYSxx 
parmlib member to include the number of devices to be measured. 

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Messages after HCD Activate

2008-02-12 Thread Schwartz, Alan
We activated a new IODF on three lpars today in preparation of some new dasd
being installed.  In two of the lpars everything looks as expected.  
Messages are:
 
IOS502I I/O CONFIGURATION CHANGED 729  
INVOKER = *MASTER* 
NEW IODF = MVS.IODF00  
EDT REBUILT, NEW EDT ID = 00   
DEVICE(S) ADDED TO SOFTWARE CONFIGURATION  
 2600-27FF 7600-77FF 9600-97FF.    
DEVICE(S) ADDED TO CSS 0   
 2600-27FF.    
CU(S) ADDED TO CSS 0   
 2600 2700.    
       
IOS503I I/O CONFIGURATION CHANGED  
PARTITION CPUDPROD ADDED TO CANDIDATE LIST(S) FOR DEVICE(S)
 IN CSS 0  2600-27FF.    
PARTITION CPUDTST1 ADDED TO CANDIDATE LIST(S) FOR DEVICE(S)
 IN CSS 0  2600-27FF.
PARTITION CPUDTST2 ADDED TO CANDIDATE LIST(S) FOR DEVICE(S)
 IN CSS 0  2600-27FF.
 
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 753 
ACTIVATE COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY  
NOTE = A887,FOLLOWING DEVICES ARE TO BE ADDED TO PROCESSOR CPUD: 
    0.2600-0.27FF
COMPID=SC1XL    
NOTE = A884,FOLLOWING CONTROL UNITS ARE TO BE ADDED TO PROCESSOR 
    CPUD: 0.2600,0.2700
COMPID=SC1XL    
NOTE = 010C,THE ACTIVE IOCDS HAS BEEN SWITCHED TO A0
COMPID=SC1C3    
 
In the third one we got these messages (which look ok):
 
IOS502I I/O CONFIGURATION CHANGED 622    
INVOKER = *MASTER*   
NEW IODF = MVS.IODF00    
EDT REBUILT, NEW EDT ID = 00 
DEVICE(S) ADDED TO SOFTWARE CONFIGURATION
 2600-27FF 7600-77FF 9600-97FF.  
DEVICE(S) ADDED  
 2600-27FF.  
CU(S) ADDED  
 2600 2700.      
 
Soon followed by:
 
NOTE = 0106,MBI COULD NOT BE ASSIGNED FOR DEVICE 9673  
 COMPID=SC1C3  
NOTE = 0106,MBI COULD NOT BE ASSIGNED FOR DEVICE 9674  
 COMPID=SC1C3  
NOTE = 0106,MBI COULD NOT BE ASSIGNED FOR DEVICE 9675  
 COMPID=SC1C3
 
Eventually on this lpar we did get:
 
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 442    
ACTIVATE COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY 
NOTE = A887,FOLLOWING DEVICES ARE TO BE ADDED TO PROCESSOR CPUC:
    2600-27FF
COMPID=SC1XL   
NOTE = A884,FOLLOWING CONTROL UNITS ARE TO BE ADDED TO PROCESSOR
    CPUC: 2600,2700
COMPID=SC1XL   
NOTE = 010C,THE ACTIVE IOCDS HAS BEEN SWITCHED TO A0    
 COMPID=SC1C3       
 
These continued for a number of devices and then stopped due to excessive
syslog messages.  I'm trying
To understand what these notes mean.  Where are these Notes messages
documented?  
 
Alan Schwartz
Affiliated Computer Services
Infrastructure Management Sr Analyst


Re: Unix grep question

2008-02-12 Thread Luis M Martinez
Hello,

Could you post your command and the error message an I can help you with 
the solution

On most of the Unix distributions you have the limits on the file 
named /usr/include/limits.h. I can'nt remember if USS have it.

If you cann't defeat the limits ... then try with a small shellscript  using 
awk 
(get_line() and close()) and reading the file names from an input file 
previously 
generated with the list of files to grep.  

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Re: tcpip, vary obey command failed

2008-02-12 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
Gamal,

/resend of earlier message/

I managed to recreate part of your error-messages:

MVS V TCPIP,,O,SYSP.OMVS.P1.J003.ETC(PROFILE)
EZZ0060I PROCESSING COMMAND: VARY
TCPIP,,O,SYSP.OMVS.P1.J003.ETC(PROFILE)

EZZ0661I FOPEN() FOR PROFILE 'SYSP.OMVS.P1.J003.ETC(PROFILE)' FAILED
: 61/741C7218, EDC5061I AN ERROR OCCURRED WHEN ATTEMPTING TO DEFINE 
A FILE TO THE SYSTEM.   
EZZ0305I CANNOT OPEN FILE SYSP.OMVS.P1.J003.ETC(PROFILE) EZZ0059I VARY
OBEY COMMAND FAILED: SEE PREVIOUS MESSAGES  

In this case SYSP.OMVS.P1.J003.ETC is a HFS file-system ( OMVS : /etc/ )
and PROFILE is a file in this OMVS-filesystem.

Are you trying to obey a file from an OMVS-filesystem ( HFS ) instead of
a MVS dataset?
I think, you can check the HFS filesystems in SYS1.PARMLIB(BPXPRMxx)


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Onderwerp: Re: tcpip, vary obey command failed

V TCPIP,,O,DSN=TCPIP.TCPPARMS(PROFILE)

Nothing work!


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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox

2008-02-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
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Snipped 
 Interestingly almost everyone in my social circle is using Firefox,
rather
 than IE. Many customers, though, seem to be using IE. I guess the
 employees have little choice.

Indeed.  Many internal-use-only corporate websites are not
Firefox-compatible, being built with IE-only packages and assumptions.

And, as John C. said, if they wanted/anticipated you might want/need
Firefox, then it would have been auto-installed on your next attachment
to the company network by the company's software audit/control autobots.

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Re: Javascript disabled in Firefox. Was Re: redirect.www.ibm.com (IBMLink)

2008-02-12 Thread Hal Merritt
Indeed. If you are using the Internet and not paranoid, then you may not
understand just how serious things are. 

Further, can you be paranoid if they really are out to get you?  

I'm one of those that has embraced Firefox with Noscript. There are some
credible (to me) claims that that is the only defense against some
really nasty attack vectors. 

My $0.02

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There are some basic notes on this subject at
   http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/whatnojs.html

Some degree of paranoia regarding the internet is not unreasonable.

Bill

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Remind me why you'd run Firefox with javascript disabled.

May be OT for this newsgroup but I'm curious as to why you'd take such
a
debilitating stance.

Thanks, Martin

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