Re: SMSVSAM Sharing control data set - delete and activate

2011-04-17 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
read the relevant IBM's SMS manuals first, Theo.

just like altering SYS1.MANx or SYS1.DUMPx datasets, you ADD first, DELETE
thereafter.

another (terrible) alternative is to get the Sysplex CFRM CDS redefined.
this will force SMSVSAM to request re-registration of the SHCDS - the impact
of this action is Sysplex-wide.


- ravi.


On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:30:30 +0200, Buckton, T. (Theo)
the...@nedbank.co.za wrote:

Please advise:

We need to activate new sharing control data sets for SMSVSAM. Our plan
is:
- terminate the SMSVSAM address space
- delete the active and space shcds (v sms,smsvsam(shscds),delete
- IPL the machine (reason: new lpar is added to the sysplex)
-activate the new shcds on current and new lpar.
- display the SMSVSAM address space.

 Please confirm if these steps are correct and in the correct sequence.

Regards
Theo

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Re: Anyone with TLMS: please help !

2011-04-17 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
Pierre, i wouldn't be too hasty to find an answer, rather, i'd be troubled
by the existence of such jobs. Yes, it is weird.

what if some recovery is needed from that dsn=ABCD, and the only copy (on
tape) was then clobbered ?

what if dsn=ABCD has extended to another tape volume ?


- ravi.


On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:31:37 -0700, Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov
wrote:

Pierre,

Try specifying DBLTIME=24 in TLMSIPO or, alternatively, specify
SPACE=(1,(1,3)) on the DD statement that ORIGINALLY creates DSN=ABCD with
DISP=(NEW,CATLG).

The former permits double OPEN of all tape datasets and the latter
restricts double OPEN to a single tape dataset. The documentation isn't
clear if double open is restricted to jobs having the same name.

Hope that helps,
Alan


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Pierre,

I can't help you with TLMS.
However, this newsgroup is a mirror of the IBM-MAIN listserver and that is
where the majority of the users read posts.
I sent this via the listserver, so you will probably get more answers now.
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Kees.

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Hi, list ! It's been a long time... !

I have this weird situation (at least, *I* think it's weird, until proven
otherwise !):

- Job JOB1 writes file DSN=ABCD with DISP=(NEW,CATLG) on a tape unit.
Tape library is managed by CA-TLMS.

- JOB JOB2 attempts to overwrite file DSN=ABCD with DISP=OLD and gets
following error:

CAT9040I 5V4635 ON 2BDB REJECTED BY CA TLMS CAT9041I VOLUME IS NOT A
SCRATCH TAPE IEC148I 713-04,IFG0196N,JOB2,STEP1,SYSUT2,2BDB,,ABCD

UserIdS attached to both jobs is the same, therefore, this is not a matter
of security rights.

Funnily enough, if the JOBNAME of the second job is changed to JOB1 (same
as the job that created the file), it gets no error. Also, if the file is on
label other than 1 (eg: LABEL=(2,SL)), it also gets no error. Finally, if
JOB2 does something with DISP=MOD on the file, subsequent executions of JOB2
can overwrite the file with DISP=OLD without error.

I am trying to figure out if this is the making of some obscure forgotten
exit put there by a system programmer of a previous generation, or if it's
really how TLMS behaves. I was unsuccessful in searching documentation for
explanations.

If anyone with TLMS can try this and tell me how it goes, it would really
help !

TIA !

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Re: Warning: TS7700 spontaneous reboot.

2010-03-25 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
what exact level of microcode will that be ?

we're also grappling with the various side-effects of these programs at times.



- ravi.


On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:37:47 +0100, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM 
kees.vern...@klm.com wrote:

 

FYI:

 

This week one of our TS7700 clusters had a spontaneous reboot and was
unavailable for 22 minutes. The other cluster in the grid operated
normally. Investigations by IBM showed that this was a know bug in the
V1R5 microcode which is resolved in V1R6.

 

TS7700 users who have intentions to upgrade their 1.5 code to 1.6, might
want to review their planning.

 

Regards,

Kees.

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Re: VSAM index trap

2010-03-25 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
any additional checks will require more resources to be consumed.
this will depend whether data integrity is valued over performance.

we've turned it ON for our systems (z/OS 1.9).

i believe it's ON by default from z/OS 1.10 onwards ...


- ravi.



On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:00:21 -0400, Dazzo, Matt mda...@pch.com 
wrote:

In reviewing our health checks the VSAM index trap was set to inactive.  I 
found the VSAM index trap feature is turned off on our system. Looking to use 
as many health checker checks as possible I'd like to turn this feature on and 
activate the check. In checking the ibm-main archives there was a thread on 
this check back in 2007, nothing since.

Any system issues turning the VSAM index trap on? Any vsam performance 
problems?

Thanks Matt

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Re: VSAM extended allocation

2009-04-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
without seeing the various error messages that may have been issued with 
this file, it's kinda hard to guess ...



what parameters are defined in the Data Class ?


by default, VSAM uses Primary space value for allocation onto a new disk 
volume.



read the manual DFSMS Using Data Sets - this is a wonderful book.



- ravi.



Frank Allan Rasmussen wrote:

Hi

 


We have a VSAM extended dataset that have filled a 3390-9 volume and we need to 
reallocate it.

 


But……

 


I’m not sure I understand how it was allocated the way it is.

 


Currently:

 


The dataset is on one volume and is 149.700 tracks (data), 308 tracks (index). 
Data and index are on same volume.

 


The dataclass has a blank volume count.

 


The IDCAMS input used to allocate with is:

 

DEFINE-  

  CLUSTER-

  (NAME(PROD.AMB.AMBARKIV)-   

  FREESPACE(0,0)- 

  VOLUME(* *)   - 

  CYL(12000 50)-  

  SUBAL SPEED NWCK-   

  RECORDSIZE(150,1582)-   

  TO(2049365)-

  SHR(2)- 

  IXD-

  DATACLASS(VSAMEXT) -

  KEYS(14,0))-

  DATA-   

  (NAME(PROD.AMB.AMBARKIV.DATA)-  

  CISZ(8192))-

  INDEX-  

  (NAME(PROD.AMB.AMBARKIV.INDX)-  

  CISZ(1024)) 

 


What I do not understand is why the dataset do not allocate a secondary extend 
on a  new volume in the storagegroup – there is free space in the storagegroup.

 


The ‘VOLUME(* *)’ parameter should overwrite the volume count attribute in the 
dataclass or….?

 


I would like to avoid a similar allocation and have the new version allocated 
on at least 2 volumes.

 


Venlig hilsen

Frank Allan Rasmussen 


IT, It-Drift


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Re: VSAM extended allocation

2009-04-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
this is an Extended Format VSAM file.

there is another field in the Data Class called Additional Volume Amount -
default value is Primary. you can set this to Secondary.

i'm assuming that you do not have niche products such as StopX37 or ACC/SRS.


i'm curious to know why you have Record Access Bias set to USER ...


- ravi.



On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:25:02 -0500, Frank Allan Rasmussen
frank.allan.rasmus...@regionsyddanmark.dk wrote:

Hi

There are no error messages as we have not defined the new dataset yet. I
was just wondring why a second volume was not used as I think it should.

The dataclass is pretty basic:

Every thing blank except for:

Data Set Name Type  . . . . . : EXTENDED
  If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED
  Extended Addressability . . : YES
  Record Access Bias  . . . . : USER
Space Constraint Relief . . . : NO

Reuse  . . . . . . . . . . . : NO
Initial Load . . . . . . . . : RECOVERY
BWO  . . . . . . . . . . . . :
Log  . . . . . . . . . . . . :
Logstream Id . . . . . . . . :
FRlog  . . . . . . . . . . . :
RLS CF Cache Value . . . . . : ALL
RLS Above the 2-GB Bar . . . : NO
Extent Constraint Removal  . : NO

But if VSAM tries to use primary space and there are no empty volumes in the
storagegroup I guess thats explains why there is no extends. Primary space
was defines as 12000 cyls

Mvh
Frank

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Re: TMM with CA-1 and STK Silo

2009-04-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
pity -- giving up a beautiful solution. must be the $$cost$$ ...

as your subject header states, use TMM - which i term as a poor man's VSM.

there is a manual on Volume Mount Analyzer which will assist in identifying
the potential candidates for TMM. HSM will perform the stacking for you.

you'll need to reserve sufficient amount of disk space first.


- ravi.


On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:57:40 -0400, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote:

I am looking for information on how I can do virtual tape using the
capabilities of DFSMS in an environment where we have CA-1 as our tape
management system and are using a StorageTek silo for our automated tape
library. Currently we are using a StorageTek VSM unit, which we would like
to get rid of. Does anyone know if it is possible to create and manage
virtual tape functions using the above without the VSM hardware? If so, can
you provide me some references that would help in the implementation?
 
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital

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Re: DFHSM MAXBACKUPTASKS(1) using 2 drives

2009-04-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
check:

1. duplexing of tape
2. ARCCMD member for HSM activities at that time
3. any ONLYIF HSMHOST() employed in the ARCCMD
4. ARCINBAK being used by any jobs at that time



- ravi.



On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:43:10 -0500, Jaime Miranda jamir...@sdccd.edu wrote:

Barry,

 The Setsys DSBACKUP (TAPE (TASKS (1)) and backup is a DASD incremental
 Backup.


Thanks,Jaime

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Re: DFHSM Issue - Critical

2009-03-04 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
Questions:

1. how long does it take for the virtual tape to be recalled from the
stacked volume? or is that a native tape drive attached to the ATL of the VTS ?

2. i assume you're running HSM in a Sysplex: what are the values of CDSQ/CDSR?


- ravi.



On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:38:52 +, Jacky Bright jacky.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. Backing up directly to VTS Tape.

No no Backvol CDS command. HSM itself takes the backup of CDS.

Observed that when CDS backup is going on many MIGRATE VOLUME commands
issued externally.

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Re: High disconnect betweeen z10 and DMX-4

2008-10-10 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
1. what is the RAID config ?
2. what is the microcode level
3. there is an e-pack needed to support z10 - was that applied ? 

we're also moving to z10 ...
applying the e-pack this weekend to the boxes on test systems.


- ravi


On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:42:48 -0500, Jorge Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello:

 We are working in a test project in Montpellier and we have problems with our
DMX-4 DASD (or with z10).
We are sending 20gb by FTP and at the begining the execution is right. But
two minutes later the disconnect time up to 13 milliseconds and when it
reachs 30 milliseconds we cancel it.

This situacion ocurrs with ficon director and with connect direct channel
between DMX-4 and z10.

Does anybody know about a fix or apar to solve this problem o similar?.
We have revised the hardware configuration and It's ok.

Regards

Jorge García Juanino
Técnico de Sistemas Z/Os/Área de Producción y Tecnología
MAPFRE TECNOLOGÍAS DE LA INFORMACIÓN
Crtra. De Pozuelo nº 52
28220 Majadahonda (Madrid)
Tfno: 91 581 27 34/ 618 33 35 59
Fax: 91 581 24 01
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Re: Anyone heard of a company called TIBCO ?

2008-08-21 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
used to be called Teknekron Software Systems, a competitor to Reuters 
Financial services. they had a relatively nimble product then called TIB
(Teknekron Information Bus) that provided real-time digital feed, along 
with a 'portal' called MarketSheet.


then Reuters bought them. their competing distribution platform then was 
Triarch.


then they renamed the company based on their product (TIBCO)

supporting TIB/MarketSheet was somewhat difficult when calling Reuters 
help desk. when asking about instrument symbols, Triarch uses the dot 
'.' as the prefix while TIB uses caret '^'.



- ravi.


Tony B. wrote:
 
Supposedly they develop mainframe/open systems related products.


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Re: Migrate with undefined DSORG

2008-08-06 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

do something like:

WHEN ((DSTYPE NE 'TEMP')   AND
  ((DSORG NE 'PO')  OR
   (DSORG NE 'VS')  OR
   (DSORG NE 'DA'))AND
  (DSORG EQ ''))
DO
  SET DATACLAS = 'DCPS'
  EXIT
END


and DCPS just contains DSORG=PS.


- ravi.


Jack Kelly wrote:

snip
Already checked the archives, but didn't find a way to migrate dataset's 
with DSORG=NONE

(In my case this datasets's are not SMS managed )
unsnip

Just create a minimal Dclass for all DSN and HSM will be happy. But if 
they're not opened, HSM will migrate them BUT not back them up, so no 
expire unless the bit is on! Non SMS has Dclass too


Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)


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Re: STK9310 ( PowderHorn ) ATL and STK9840D tape drives

2008-06-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
what version of NCS are you on ?


- ravi.


On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:27:15 -0500, Glenn Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

We have been trying to upgrade the LMU/LCU on our STK9310 ( PowderHorn )
ATL to support STK9840D tape drives.  We currently have microcode level
1.9.26 on the LMU's and we have microcode level 4.2.04 on the LCU's.

For the 2nd weekend we attempted to upgrade the microcode level to 1.9.74
on the LMU's and 4.4.08 on the LCU's.  The installation/activation of the
microcode appears to successful.  The LMU's activate successfully, the LSM's
activate successfully and all of our tape drives work.  We are able to
mount/dismount tape cartridges in all of our tape drives.  However when we
attempt to any type of CAP processing, 'ejects' or 'enters' something goes
very wrong and the entire SILO ( the entire ACS ) appears to become
unresponsive because the STK HSC host software reports that the ACS is
disconnected.

Last weekend we were running on the 'new' LMU/LCU microcode for more than
90 minutes before we attempted to perform a CAP 'enter'.  The robotics
appeared to 'read' 11 tape cartridges before we recieved the ACS
Disconnected message on the z/OS consoles.

Yesterday we were running for about 30 minutes before we attempted to
eject 1 3490 tape cartridge.  The robot had retrieved the cartridge from its
storage cell, moved it to the CAP cell before we received the ACS
Disconnected message on the z/OS consoles.

We have engaged STK software support who says they have not encountered
any problems with this level of microcode.  They are attempting to analyze
some HSC 'trace' data we captured yesterday when the problem occrred.

I was wondering if anyone has STK9840D tape drives installed in a STK9310 (
PowderHorn ) ATL ( not an SL8500 ) and if so, would you be willing to share
with me your LMU/LCU microcode levels and if you do any CAP processing.


Thank you in advance for any help you can give us.

Glenn Miller

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Re: EMC Dasd and Performance Issues

2008-03-27 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
Liz,

  just how were the SNAPs affected ?  do you have SRDF/A involved ?


- ravi.


On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:29:51 -0400, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am supporting the DMX3 Disk Array from EMC.  We have been experienceing
some performance issues with our Timefinder Snap process.

According to EMC this issue occurred due to microcode level 5671.  We did
this upgrade 18 months ago and just now saw this issue and got it resolved.

I am just looking to see if anyone else has seen an increase in the
Timefinder Snap process after this microcode upgrade?  Our SNAP went from 15
mins to 40 mins.

Lizette

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Re: Virtual tape questions

2008-03-27 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
Provided there is an aggressive expiry plan set in the mgmtclas, and there's
healthy status of SCRATCH tapes.

in the several sites i've been, everyone's afraid to clear the archeological
dust - so they pile up causing grief to TMS.


- ravi.


On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:25:47 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

snip
can HSM be run in a mode which does not append to its old tapes
snip

We have a small LPAR that uses virtual tape only.  We send ML2 to
virtual tape and it starts a fresh tape each time ML2 migration
is done.  Since stacking is done on the back end there is no
point in possibly recalling a virtual tape from the back end
just to mod onto it.

Mark
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index cisz - does it change when cluster is EA/EF?

2007-12-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
on z/OS 1.6

i created a KSDS with data cisz 18k (without explicitly coding index cisz).

data info with EA/EF:

ATTRIBUTES  
 

  KEYLEN24 AVGLRECL3400 BUFSPACE
---57344 CISIZE-18432
  RKP---15 MAXLRECL3400 EXCPEXIT--
(NULL) CI/CA-40
  STRIPE-COUNT---
1   



data info without EA/EF:

ATTRIBUTES  
 

  KEYLEN24 AVGLRECL3400 BUFSPACE
---57344 CISIZE-18432
  RKP---15 MAXLRECL3400 EXCPEXIT--
(NULL) CI/CA-45
  STRIPE-COUNT---1  



without EA/EF, the index info seen is:

ATTRIBUTES  
 

  KEYLEN24 AVGLRECL---0 BUFSPACE--
-0 CISIZE---1024
  RKP---15 MAXLRECL-1017 EXCPEXIT--
(NULL) CI/CA-33



with EA/EF, the index info is:

ATTRIBUTES  
 

  KEYLEN24 AVGLRECL---0 BUFSPACE--
-0 CISIZE---512
  RKP---15 MAXLRECL-505 EXCPEXIT--
(NULL) CI/CA-48



what causes this difference in the index cisz ?


- ravi.

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Re: Tape Migration

2007-11-29 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
Hello Don.

i am interested to know how Tape/Copy stand up to IBM's Tape2Tape.
where does it succeed ?

also, how does it handle tapes that are managed externally to the TMS, such
as DFHSM, DB2, Control-D, and such.


- ravi.


On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:18:48 -0600, Don Bolton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Barry,

Opentech Systems can provide migration services and has for many other
customers that are migrating from one VTL to another be it different vendor
VTL's are the same vendor.  Opentech Systems TapeCopy product can move many
proprietary tape datasets during the migration thus saving time and money.
Our TapeCopy and VTAR integration can pre-stage the tape datasets into cache
to remove the long wait for virtual tapes being recalled from back-end
tapes.

Please give us a call if you are interested in getting a bid for Migration
Services or want to learn more about our solutions.

http://www.opentechsystems.com/tape-copy.php

http://www.opentechsystems.com/vtar.php

Regards,
Don

Don Bolton
Director Technical Services
800-460-3011 Phone
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Re: IBM VE (TS7740) and foreign tapes

2007-10-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
into which VOLCAT - specific, or General ?


- ravi.


On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:53:49 -0500, Field, Alan C.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ravi,

We're doing the same thing. STK to IBM, only we got B20's.

The only solution we have found is to define the foreign volumes in
the volcats. Use IDCAMS CREATE VOLENT.

Alan


we're in the midst of migrating our workload out from STK's VSMs to
IBM's VE
TS7740 (set up in a dual cluster grid). this grid is shared by several
SYSPLEX.

the problem we now face is this:

during the VSM days, the tapes weren't SMS-managed. if there is a need
to
troubleshoot a job failure in Prod LPAR, the data may be backed up from
that
Prod LPAR and restored to a Test LPAR for analysis.

for that, a simple use of EXPDT=98000 in the restore JCL was sufficient.

now with the IBM VE, each SYSPLEX has its own TCDB (the VOLCATs), and
the
tapes are SMS-managed. the above restore process falls foul, as the
virtual
volumes in the Prod LPAR are not defined to the TCDBs in the Test LPAR.

what can be done to continue using the restoration process ?
thanks.

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Re: IBM VE (TS7740) and foreign tapes

2007-10-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
as this happens several times (10) a month we're thinking of:

1. let the restoration job have a preamble/postamble steps to define the
external tape to VGENERAL, and to remove the entry after the job completes.

2. define all Prod tapes to Devt into specific VOLCATs.


arguments:

for 1: potential to clobber the VOLCAT with erronous entries
for 2: no need to fix the restore jobs, but must continuously maintain the
VOLCATs should new ranges are added - painful.


- ravi.


On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:52:43 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think you have 2 choises:
- if this is an incidental action: define the tape to the TCDB with the
Private attribute to make it readable.
- if this is done regularly, you can define the entire group of tape
from another sysplex in the TCDB with the Private attribute. In that
case, SMS will regard each tape as Private and allows you to read it
when you want. We did this with the tapes from our VM system, that have
to be read incidently on z/OS.

Kees.

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Re: IBM VE (TS7740) and foreign tapes

2007-10-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
share it across SYSPLEX ?

considering whether to define the Prod ranges as private to Devt - but
maintenance can be painful.


- ravi.


On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:28:36 -0500, Darth Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Have you considered sharing the TCDB's?

Just brain-storming here, but if you can't share everything, how about one
range of tapes in 1 TCDB?

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IBM VE (TS7740) and foreign tapes

2007-10-15 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
we're in the midst of migrating our workload out from STK's VSMs to IBM's VE
TS7740 (set up in a dual cluster grid). this grid is shared by several SYSPLEX.

the problem we now face is this:

during the VSM days, the tapes weren't SMS-managed. if there is a need to
troubleshoot a job failure in Prod LPAR, the data may be backed up from that
Prod LPAR and restored to a Test LPAR for analysis.

for that, a simple use of EXPDT=98000 in the restore JCL was sufficient.

now with the IBM VE, each SYSPLEX has its own TCDB (the VOLCATs), and the
tapes are SMS-managed. the above restore process falls foul, as the virtual
volumes in the Prod LPAR are not defined to the TCDBs in the Test LPAR.

what can be done to continue using the restoration process ?
thanks.


- ravi.

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Re: VVDS Question.

2007-08-25 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

non-SMS: when a VSAM file is created
SMS: when a file is created

in a newly-initialized volume, a newly-defined dataset will occupy space 
first; after which the VVDS is automatically created.


problem is, if the first dataset is removed, there will be a gap that 
may be hard to be filled.


creating VVDS first can help to get around this issue.

default size is TRK(10,10); with z/OS 1.7, that can be user-defined


- ravi.


Howard Rifkind wrote:

I haven't been involved in this for a while so I'll as
this question:

When does the VVDS on a pack get created?

When the first VSAM dataset is created on the volume?

Thanks.


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Re: CA-1 TMC Reblock - recommended size?

2007-08-21 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
interesting this topic should come up - i just did an exercise to reblock
the TMC, and to add about 400,000 volume records + 150,000 DSNB records on
Sunday (in Production).

with BLKSIZE=340, the old copy was 9600 trks with 93% used.
with BLKSIZE=8840, i allocated 9000 trks -- used 61%

amazing!


only hiccup was, the Common Tape Subsystem address space choked (80A-10)
when started at REGION=3M.  when asked, the regional CA support simply
stated to bump it up to 4M, but no calculations offered.


- ravi.


On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:41:40 -0500, Russell Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tim,

The main reason to block the TMC is space utilization. If you are currently
allocated as 340 X 340 and you change to the recommended 340 X 8840 you will
end up using only about 1/3 the amount of dasd.

The reason that 8840 was chosen was that it gives well over 90% utilization
on the DASD track; yet doesn't require a huge amount of ECSA to be reserved.
Also, for direct I/O (read a single record, write a single record) we have
to read and write a block at each time. So, to read a 340-byte record
requires a read of either 8840 bytes of 27880 bytes. Granted, the majority
of I/O time is spent on connecting to the device versus actually
transferring the data; but still do you really want to xfer 27880 bytes
every time you want to read or write a single record.

We do have some clients runing with 27880 and they report no problems. So,
the choice is yours. But for space utilization, 8840 is close to optimum
but only requires a total of 26,520 bytes of ECSA versus 83,640 bytes.

Strictly your choice, but the only reason for blocking the TMC is improved
space utilization and 8840 will give you a three-fold improvement.

Russell Witt
CA-1 Level-2 Support Manager

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Re: SMS Question - Urgent

2007-08-18 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

** DON'T PANIC **

take several deep breaths ... and think ...


your 3.2 screen shows:

Storage class . . . : PRODVSAM
Organization  . . . : PS
Record format . . . : VB


as Tom pointed out, wrong DSORG - should show up as VS (at least).


from the ISMF test screen Lizette has wonderfully captured, test your 
ACS script with additional info:


DSN (DSN/Collection Name) . . REFPROD.REF.DNO

Dsorg . . . . VS
Recorg  . . . KS

Dsntype . . . . . EXT
  If Ext  . . . . Y


to get SMS-managed, the dataset has to have a STORCLAS assigned first; 
STORGRUP  MGMTCLAS follow thereafter (DATACLAS is generally optional).


DATACLAS can be assigned to both SMS  non-SMS datasets ...


let's start tracing from your STORCLAS ACS routine.


- ravi.

ps: i take it your site does not have ACC/SRS, or StopX37/II ... so the 
source of the problem is confined only to your ACS routines.




Dean Montevago wrote:

I just did a 3.2 allocate

 Data Set Name . . . . : REFPROD.REF.DNO

 General Data   Current Allocation  
  Management class . . : **None**Allocated blocks  . : 15   
  Storage class  . . . : PRODVSAMAllocated extents . : 1  
  Volume serial . . . : VSAM02
  Device type . . . . : 3390  
  Data class . . . . . : PRODVSAM   Current Utilization   
  Organization  . . . : PS  Used blocks . . . . : 0
  Record format . . . : VB  Used extents  . . . : 0
  Record length . . . : 251   
  Block size  . . . . : 3120  
  1st extent blocks . : 15   
  Secondary blocks  . : 2
  Data set name type  : EXTENDEDSMS Compressible  :   NO   
 
  Creation date . . . : 2007/08/17  Referenced date . . : ***None***   
   Expiration date . . : ***None*** 


both write statements hit as well. don't know what's going on here, only had 2 
hours sleep last night because if this, fading fast. someone please enlighten me


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Re: SMS Question - Urgent

2007-08-17 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
a genuine concern - but have you checked to see if the growth was not 
due to bad Index CISZ ?  at one site, the Indices are hardcoded to 512

in the IDCAMS statements, which caused the DATA component to grow rapidly.

dataclass will take effect at dataset creation time. EF/EA datasets need
to be in SMS-managed pool - that pool can be shared with other 
SMS-managed datasets.



- ravi.



Dean Montevago wrote:

Hi,

I have a CICS VSAM file that is reaching it's 4gb limit. I want to create an 
SMS pool for it. Can I define all the constructs and activate the new rules 
while the region is up and using this file ? Will they take affect the next 
time the file is deleted/defined ? Please advise.

Thanks
Dean

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Re: Renaming SMS datasets

2007-07-09 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
refer to chapter in DFSMSdfp Storage Admin Reference: Recovering Storage 
Management Subsystem Information.


- ravi.


On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:54:27 -0500, Scott Guynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Does anyone have experience or a recommendation on how to go about
renaming the SMS CDS/COMMDS datasets?  I think the only place they are
hardcoded is in the IGDSMS00 parmlib member.  Please share your thoughts.

TIA

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Re: DFSMShsm tape protection

2007-03-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
how are tapes being managed at your site ?


- ravi.


On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:38:29 +0300, Abdullah AlShaalan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i protect my HSM tapes using RACF.

when i use one of those tapes for JES offloading, it bypass the protection
and overwrite the data on the tape and relabel it.

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ARCINBAK or DFDSS - what's the advantage ?

2007-03-15 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
we have applications that make use of ARCINBAK to backup datasets during
their  Batch runs (which goes to tape). i often wondered what benefit that
gives, when compared to DFDSS.

what scenarios will prove beneficial to use ARCINBAK ?

as it is, we have a tough time justifying the CPU usage for DFHSM 
many thanks!


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Re: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-05-31 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
overhead ?  compared against what ?

i used to work at a site that still run IMS  DB2.
during peak periods (like a month-end on work-day), IMS goes on
smoothly, while DB2 resources shoots through the roof. whatever tuning we 
had been doing then continue to fail to tame this beast. we have to resort 
to dirty tricks, like telling users not to shoot unnecessary SQLs.

so, what are these IMS overheads ?


- ravi.


On Wed, 31 May 2006 14:12:15 -0700, Anton Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Lastly, IMS is extremely efficient.  ?

So is my Hummer , I suppose..

Do you really believe that IMS with all it's overhead has a future in the
diminishing mainframe market. As far as I am concerned, IBM tries to hook
you into a technology and then they just up the price and IMS is a 
typical
example of this.

Have you ever tried various TP monitors and compared the cost involved to
run them ? I don't think so... even better then that ... I know you never
did this

Anton

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Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-24 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
it's a case of i'm right and the whole world didn't figure it out right
anyhow, i'm leaving that place very soon 


On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:02:38 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/22/2006
   at 08:17 PM, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  my current employer believes in doing just that:
  applying to live system.

Who's going to wind up holding the bag when the balloon goes up?

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Re: Monitoring tool for STK 9310

2006-04-24 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
how was it done prior to XE ?
and what sort of monitoring is being conducted ?

isn't messages on console sufficient ?
else some automation packages (AF/Operator, etc)
can help - depending on your needs.

the picture still isn't clear to me - sorry.


- ravi.


On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:10:57 -0700, Roland P. Chung 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Ambat, one of my client is installing the Omegamon XE for Storage 
product montorring. We just discovered recently that the product does not 
provide interface EXIT to monitor the STK tape libraries. This was 
confirmed by IBM. We need to find another product that can do the job 
until IBM can provide this function at the end of this year in Omegamon XE.

 With best regards,

...Roland Chung
Senior Technical Specialist (S/390,VM/VSE,DB2/VSEVM)
MAXC Consultants Inc.

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Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-22 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

Skip,

my current employer believes in doing just that:
applying to live system.

they don't believe in cloning, nor indirect cataloging.
coupled with that, we have a rather nonsupporting
security team.

there's plenty of landmines to be cleared ...


- ravi.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cat skinning has always been more about result than process, but some 
techniques are more trouble than others. We never rebuild IPL text on a 
'live' sysres, that is, one that will actually be LOADed from. All 
maintenance is installed on an SMPE-only target volume. IPL text is 
rebuilt there, then the volume is cloned to a 'live' volume. I can't 
recall ever having to dink around with the copy itself. That's why I 
questioned in an earlier post whether the cloning process is set up 
properly to include the track that contains the IPL text.


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Re: Monitoring tool for STK 9310

2006-04-22 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

what do you mean by monitoring ?


Roland Chung wrote:
Hi Listers, my client is looking for a software package for monitorring 
the STK tape libraries. They are at z/OS 1.5.


Any suggestion will be appreciated.


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Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
i remember seeing this APAR, as i was prepping my 1.4
with all tolerant fixes, readying for 1.7

anyway, i had about close to 300 PTFs applied, and several
of the HOLDACTIONS mentioned re-creating the IPL text, as
well as the SADump.

had no problems with that - IPLed smoothly 2 weeks ago.

did you create the text/bootstrap from the correct
NUCLEUS/SAMPLIB prior to IPL ?

i vaguely remember this APAR having an impact on
EMC devices (or is it?) ...

only bugbear i have is waiting on APAR OA15115


- ravi.


On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:46:05 -0500, Kok, Howi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,

I don't know since which maintenance, could be OA09050, I have been
unable to IPL until I reformat the IPL volume even though I initialized
it with IPL TEXT.  Does anyone has the same problem and how you solve
it?  We are at z/OS 1.4.

 

Thanks,

Howi Kok

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Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

i'd suppose you would have:
1. cloned SYSRES (which contained old IPL text)
2. applied fixes to new target libraries in cloned volume
3. rebuilt IPL text onto cloned volume from newly updated
   target libraries


- ravi.


Kok, Howi wrote:

Dave,
I believe writing a new IPL TEXT from the target during the clone
process is a standard.  But my problem is I have to reformat the cloned
pack after the process, even though the cloned pack has been initialized
with IPL TEXT from the target.


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Re: Data conversion from 3380 to 3390 - H E L P

2006-03-21 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

IDMS has been able to do VSAM as well ...


- ravi.


Ed Gould wrote:

On Mar 20, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Ron and Jenny Hawkins wrote:
Ron,

Good idea.. but not usually guaranteed. For some reason (historical??) 
people who created BDAM files usually have dsorg=PS or none specified. I 
have seen quite a few of those over the years (including Panvalet 
libraries). I have not had the occasion to look at IDMS databases lately 
but last time I did they were marked as PS. So don't believe everything 
you see in the vtoc or SMF or decollect.


Ed


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on CA-1 external security

2006-03-13 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
we're on CA-1 5.2 (SP04, i think); i've been harassed by the security team
as they want to implement external security (ACF2) to manage all CA-1
resources/access.

i've read all related sections in Systems Programmer Guide
- 1.6.3.12 (Options Checklist #37)
- 4.23 (TMMSEC)
- 6.x

but i'm still stumped.

i want to know what the security resources that relate to
the TMMSEC options/characteristics in:
- TINQ  (TMC, DSNB, CTL, SEC, OPT, SCR)
- TUPD  (TMC, DSNB, OPT, SCR)
- TUNCT (DEL, ADD, EXT, RET, EXP, CLE, CHE, LBL, CHO, ERA, SCR)
- TECUR (ALL, fields in TMC records)
- DUNCT (EXP, EXT, RET)
- DECUR (ALL, fields in DSNB records)


i've raised this to the CA support, but i was instructed to RTFM!
how can i get the necessary information ?

am i to disable this internal security for ACF2 to gain control ?
how do i do this ?
must i update TMOOPTxx too ?

terribly confused ...
many thanks.


- ravi.

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Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-23 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

my current site is terribly averse to cloning, partly because
the security team (ACF2) do not know how to set the rules, and thus
do not want these additional tasks ...


- ravi.


R.S. wrote:

[snipped]

2) Share a volume between environments not protected via a integrity
   manager like GRS or MII.  One environment read/write, the other
   read only.

#1 hasn't been a problem in a long time here, but I remember the days
when people constantly put their personal JCL libraries on the sysres
at other shops I've been at.


IMHO first reason is not reasonable. Uneducated people shouldn't be able 
to allocate anything out of SMS. As additional resort of protection 
mount attributes (STORAGE, PRIVATE, PUBLIC) and IGGPRE00 can be used.


The second reason could be real one, however personally I would consider 
 volume cloning (multiple copies) as an circumvention to sharing, 
especially when important but relatively small amount of data is being 
considered - I mean RES volumes. Two mod-9's is not a pain.

Just my $0.02


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Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-18 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
it is marked HIPER now ...


  APAR Identifier .. PK15432  Last Changed  06/02/17
  EXEC BINARY SEARCH ALL ... WHEN .. GIVES DIFFERENT RESULT AFTER
  PQ95214 IF SEARCH ARGUMENT IS LONGER THAN  06/01/19 PTF PECHANGE

  Symptom .. IN INCORROUT Status ... CLOSED  PER
  Severity ... 2  Date Closed . 06/01/25
  Component .. 568819802  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 709  Fixed Release  999
  Component Name LE COBOL LIB Special NoticePE HIPER
  Current Target Date ..06/02/22  Flags
  SCP ...
  Platform  PERVASIVE  DATALOSS

  Status Detail: APARCLOSURE - APAR is being closed.



On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:35:03 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

What I don't get is... at least as of right now this APAR is not
even marked HIPER (or doesn't IBM do that until the PTF is
available?).This has gone to the highest levels of management
in our organization and the question has been asked many times by
senior management: Doesn't IBM alert you to a problem like this that
has potential for this much damage?

It's hard to respond to that yes, there was HOLDDATA and normally
someone downloads it weekly and reviews SMP/E report errorsysmods to
see potential impacts.   This one was overlooked. Even if found,
by the person looking things over, I doubt the impact would have
been realized.

In my thinking, this should have been a red alert.   It seems
that those are reserved to problems that can't be resolved
without an IPL or cause an IPL.  While no one likes system
outages and they can cost real money depending on the business,
data corruption is IMHO a *much worse* scenario. We recently
went though a recovery effort from a problem caused by another
vendor related to data loss/corruption.  Took several weeks
of 24*7 work by a lot of people.

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Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

there is VATLSTxx, and there are these DADSM exits


- ravi.


Tim Hupe wrote:

Hello,
Other than using SMS, is anyone aware of a system setting or JCL parameter
that would bias the allocation of a disk dataset toward a range of volumes
within a pool defined by esoteric ?
Thanks


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Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

fear of the unknown ...

at my previous work site, the STGADMIN gods simply refused to
believe in SMS, because of some past bad experiences; i'd guessed
they didn't set it up properly then.


- ravi.



Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote:

On Friday 10 February 2006 11:23, Tim Hupe wrote:


Other than using SMS, .


Pardon my asking, but SMS has been around since 1989 and it's a standard 
component of all OS/390 and z/OS systems.  Any particular reason why 
you're not using it?




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Re: SMS No space errors

2006-01-31 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
DB2 is just another application, requesting space.

DB2 does have the concept of having its own storage group; if you have
specific volsers defined to this group, and along with a STORCLAS that
has GS on, those targetted volumes may not have sufficient space even
though the storage group they're in have plenty of room ...

for a start, identify all your SMS constructs (DC, MC, SC, SG) and go
through their filter lists.


- ravi.


On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:35:29 -, William Walsh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ron,

Since DB2 is doing the allocating under the covers I tried to allocate a
multi-volume dataset via ISPF 3.2 and got this error:
IKJ56893I DATA SET DBCD8S2.ARCHLOG1.JUNK5 NOT ALLOCATED+

IGD17206I VOLUME SELECTION HAS FAILED - THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH VOLUMES

WITH SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR DATA SET


which is different from the original (IGD17279I 1 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED
BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE).  Having said that I can
allocate datasets via ISPF 3.2 letting the ACS routine select the
storage group/storage class and specifying many times more space than
DB2 would be asking for (ARCHPRI).  So, possibly DB2 is doing something
under the covers that is conflicting.

I haven't defined a management class, if that might be the problem do
you know where I can find an example ACS routine or document on how I
would utilize it?

Thanks,
www


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Sent: 31 January 2006 14:11
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS No space errors


William,

This is a WAG, but does your STORCLAS have a Guaranteed Space = YES, and
your DATACLAS or UNIT parm in JCL have a UNITCOUNT greater than 1?

Ron

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Re: Mainframe DASD in SAN

2005-11-23 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
John,

  i've had managed a single HDS 9960 box that had both
  MVS volumes and OPEN-3 volumes.

  i had the MVS  OPEN-3 vols on separate disk array groups.


- ravi.



On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:54:50 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, All,

Couldn't find anything in the archives on this topic (since January 2004),
so

Is anybody using DASD that has been carved out of a Storage Area Network
(SAN)?  I.e., you have a big SAN box in which your mainframe DASD resides
along with your non-mainframe disk?

TIA,

-jc-

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GRS for monoplexed LPARs - can i do it ?

2005-10-19 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
i'm on z/OS 1.4 with 2 monoplexed LPARs on 2066-OX2.
have growing number of shared DASDs, now containing:
  - STK HSC/VTCS CDS
  - Endevor files
  - application files
  - copies of SYSLOGs
  - joblog archives
  - ... (thankfully no JES2 MAS)

... and GRS=NONE in IEASYSxx.

am i able to set up a GRS ring to manage this mess ?
if possible, how ?
the GRS manuals assumes parallel sysplex - so i'm often confused.

many thanks!


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Re: GRS for monoplexed LPARs - can i do it ?

2005-10-19 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
history - it's my inheritance now ...  8-(
what were your steps ?

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:33:55 -0400, Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes you can setup an GRS ring environment between the tso monoplexes using
CTC's. If you did have a MAS, you would have to have at least a basic
sysplex bewteen the two systems.

Is there any reason why you have two monoplexes and yet share so much?

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Re: Eliminating HSC with CA-1?

2005-10-16 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

wow! CA-1 can now manage the Powderhorns via LMU ?
another case of Software superior by Design ... ?


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Thomas Conley wrote:

One of my current clients is telling me that they were told by CA that the
new releases of CA-1 allow you to run an STK robotic library without 
HSC.  I

can't seem to find any hard doc on this.  Does anybody know if this can be
done and how?

Regards,
Tom Conley


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Re: SMS - HSM invalid DSORG

2005-09-14 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
have a default dataclass for errant allocations;
my routine looks something like this:

WHEN ((DSTYPE NE 'TEMP')   AND
  ((DSORG NE 'PO')  OR
   (DSORG NE 'VS')  OR
   (DSORG NE 'DA'))AND
  (DSORG EQ ''))
DO
  SET DATACLAS = 'DCPS'
  EXIT
END

DCPS is my naming convention for Dataclass for DSORG=PS;
no space values, nothing, except for DSORG=PS.


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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:48:34 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are z/OS V1R4. We have several datasets which are allocated but never
opened or closed. This leaves the dataset with an invalid DSORG. These
datasets are SMS managed, which I thought SMS would prevent from
happening. As a result HSM will not back up or migrate these datasets.
How do other shop's manage these datasets?

Thank You

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Re: Control-D replacement

2005-09-14 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
CA-Dispatch?
RMDS ?

i'd suppose your query was cost-driven ...


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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:27:00 +0200, =?windows-1255?B?4uPpIOHvICDg4ek=?=
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Hi,

I know I've asked this before, but can anyone recommend a product that can
replace Control-D.

TIA

Gadi

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Re: SMS Help

2005-09-02 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
how are the ACS routines driven ?
by DSN alone, or DSN with other variables (DSORG, DSNTYPE, etc) ?


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On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:49:31 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have implemented SMS for our production files. Everything appears to
be working correctly except this one file. It is a IEFBR14 and it is
allocating the dataset as non-SMS, but every test I do using the same
JCL works correctly. All the other files with this hi-level qualifier
are working. What can I do to help track this allocation. I have looked
at the SMS routines and can't figure out why it is not being SMS
managed. Like I said all my test work correctly and even the test under
ISMF work correctly. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. We are z/OS
v1r4.

Thanks

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Re: MULTIVOLUME FILES THRU SMS

2005-08-27 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
use a mixture of:
- space constaint relief (with Reduce Space up to)
- dynamic volume count (SCR must be Y)
- volume count


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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:35:10 -0400, javier sotela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Everyone:

We are trying to use a disk pool using sms. The idea is assign a file to a
storage group with 10 disks for example, and the sms deal with all the
volumes to assign the space, according our space requerinment. The problem
that we have is that normally sms assign the first extent, but if the file
need more that one extent, and the disk is full the job cancel with b-37
error with insuficient disk space. Does anybody can help me hoew to deal
with this problem and work with multi extends files in multi volumes 

TIA.

Javier S.

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Re: STOPX Question

2005-08-25 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

seems analogous to multiple DDnames referencing the same
physical dataset during SPACVOLA (in this case, your job
and CICS have references to the same file).

one of them need to unallocate the file ...


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Robert Pelletier wrote:

Last night we had the following problem:

IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
SMS4801I REDUCED SPACE FROM 10 CYLS TO 5
IEC070I 104-204,JR161140,U090#240,SLFVREFR,0941,PROD10,
IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
SMS4801I REDUCED SPACE FROM 10 CYLS TO 4
IEC070I 104-204,JR161140,U090#240,SLFVREFR,0941,PROD10,
IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
SMS4951I MAXIMUM SPACE ON VOLUME IS ZERO. CANNOT SPACSECR.
SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
SMS4463I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB
IEC070I 104-204,JR161140,U090#240,SLFVREFR,0941,PROD10,
IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
SMS4951I MAXIMUM SPACE ON VOLUME IS ZERO. CANNOT SPACSECR.
SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
SMS4463I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB

For hours the message SMS4463I kept coming up. The data set was allocated to 
CICS so I understand that but might anyone know why STOPX did not abend the 
job? Once again thanks for any info.


Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Connecticut


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Re: STOPX Question

2005-08-25 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
btw, have you approached BMC tech support ?


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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:20:39 +0800, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

seems analogous to multiple DDnames referencing the same
physical dataset during SPACVOLA (in this case, your job
and CICS have references to the same file).

one of them need to unallocate the file ...


- ravi.



Robert Pelletier wrote:
 Last night we had the following problem:

 IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
 SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR
SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
 SMS4801I REDUCED SPACE FROM 10 CYLS TO 5
 IEC070I 104-204,JR161140,U090#240,SLFVREFR,0941,PROD10,
 IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
 SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR
SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
 SMS4801I REDUCED SPACE FROM 10 CYLS TO 4
 IEC070I 104-204,JR161140,U090#240,SLFVREFR,0941,PROD10,
 IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
 SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR
SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
 SMS4951I MAXIMUM SPACE ON VOLUME IS ZERO. CANNOT SPACSECR.
 SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR
SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
 SMS4463I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB
 IEC070I 104-204,JR161140,U090#240,SLFVREFR,0941,PROD10,
 IEC070I SERVP.SLFVREFR,SERVP.SLFVREFR.DATA,CATALOG.MVSICF1.PSOFT04
 SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACSECR FOR
SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
 SMS4951I MAXIMUM SPACE ON VOLUME IS ZERO. CANNOT SPACSECR.
 SMS4000I JR161140, U090#240, SLFVREFR, ATTEMPTING SPACVOLA FOR
SERVP.SLFVREFR.DA
 SMS4463I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB

 For hours the message SMS4463I kept coming up. The data set was allocated
to CICS so I understand that but might anyone know why STOPX did not abend
the job? Once again thanks for any info.


 Bob Pelletier
 Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
 Rocky Hill, Connecticut

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Re: Recatalog IODF

2005-08-24 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

why not use DFDSS to back it up from System A
and restore it to System B ?


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Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

Hi

I someone can help:
The actual IODF is defined cataloged in  system A master catalog
(VVDS points to system A's master catalog)
I would like to use /recatlog from system B


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Re: ILR005E PLPA PAGE DATA SET FULL

2005-07-26 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

ooo ...

if IBM had that motto, the MVS wouldn't have progressed to z/OS.
i believe if a change provide benefits that far outweighs the risks,
i'd go for it.

i've done DDCONS(NO) and used SMS to assign default dataclass
to DSORG=PS so that DFHSM can migrate them later - else i end up
with DSORG=null and space management headaches.

if i went with your motto (as my current employer does), my operators
would have had problems while performing an IPL (CICS, DB2, DFHSM taking
long time to shut down) - solved with the DDCONS(NO).

these were not management problems, but then management didn't need to 
know the details of the changes either! crucially, they won't bring the 
house down.


these were the better things that i've done   8-)


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Ted MacNEIL wrote:

Channel pathing?
Why not?
If it ain't broke?

I have better things to do than to 'split up' things that have been together 
for years.

My point was (all along): who cares?
Don't worry!
Be happy.

And, as for the original poster, why did/does management care?

It's like certain assembler coding constructs that are in general use.
They're understood: they work: they don't hurt.

Even if custom volume are all the rage, I would do it as a volume to fit
PLPA @ 1 cylinder, add COMMON.

-teD


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Re: FW: on setting GRSRNL when GRS=NONE

2005-07-04 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
thanks Mark.

   will get right on it.


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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:18:54 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:51:52 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As for Ron's recommendation,  you can also implement a DFDSS exit
to the ENQ/RESERVE is only for the duration of reading the VTOC
instead of the duration of the entire dump.  It is discussed in
the DFDSS manuals and I've also posted it to IBM-MAIN a long time
ago.  Search the archives for ADRUNEQ.
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   ===  should be ADRUENQ

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on setting GRSRNL when GRS=NONE

2005-07-02 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

we've 2 monoplexed LPARs (z/OS 1.4) sharing DASDs
for among other things, the CDSs for HSC.

i'd like to define RNL exclusion list for the
STK qnames STKALSQN  STKENQNM.

our IEASYSxx has the entry GRS=NONE.
does this imply GRSRNL=EXCLUDED ?

or am i able to do a T GRSRNL=xx ?

many thanks.


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Re: on setting GRSRNL when GRS=NONE

2005-07-02 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

thanks Mark.

our STGADMIN guy ran into problems on Fri night when
he set HSM to backup the shared volumes. i was informed
one of the settings in ARCCMDxx was HSMSERIALIZATION.
suddenly there was *MASTER* pending on both LPARs:
HSM on one side, HSC on the other.

i was thinking: will it hurt to alter ARCCMDxx to
USERSERIALIZATION instead of worrying about GRS parms ?
i hope there aren't any drawbacks ...


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Mark Zelden wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:43:04 +0800, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



we've 2 monoplexed LPARs (z/OS 1.4) sharing DASDs
for among other things, the CDSs for HSC.

i'd like to define RNL exclusion list for the
STK qnames STKALSQN  STKENQNM.

our IEASYSxx has the entry GRS=NONE.
does this imply GRSRNL=EXCLUDED ?




Since you are not running GRS (GRS=NONE), then it is a moot point.
There are no RNL lists used.  There is no reason to exclude those
QNAMEs since there is no propegation of ENQs across systems.

But if you were running GRS (or MII) then you would want to exclude
those names.  I once tried adding them to MII (using CTC communications,
not a CF) and STK VSM performance went to the toliet.  Good thing I was
able to back out the change easily.

Mark
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Re: on setting GRSRNL when GRS=NONE

2005-07-02 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

hi Brian.

so, do i take it that when GRS=NONE, both GRSCNF  GRSRNL
are ignored ?

does it take an IPL to change GRS to anything other than NONE ?

how then can i take care of the qnames mentioned below ?

thank you.


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Brian Peterson wrote:

From z/OS Initialization and Tuning Reference, topic 47.1 Overview of
IEASYSxx parameters:

The GRSRNL parameter is mandatory when the GRS= parameter is specified as
JOIN, TRYJOIN, START, or STAR. The GRSRNL parameter is ignored when
GRS=NONE.

Brian

On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:43:04 +0800, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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we've 2 monoplexed LPARs (z/OS 1.4) sharing DASDs
for among other things, the CDSs for HSC.

i'd like to define RNL exclusion list for the
STK qnames STKALSQN  STKENQNM.

our IEASYSxx has the entry GRS=NONE.
does this imply GRSRNL=EXCLUDED ?

or am i able to do a T GRSRNL=xx ?

many thanks.


- ravi.


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Re: StorageTek NCS V5

2005-07-01 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair

why ?

i'm now doing 6.1 in a hurry ...


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Mark Zelden wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 01:15:13 +0200, Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Our MVS folks working on the NCS 6.1 upgrade.




Roland, let me know how that upgrade goes.  I was unofficially
warned aginst going to 6.1 (although that was several months ago),
so we are sticking with 6.0 still for now.

What library do you use?  Do you know if you have the SL8500 or
are you still using 9310 (powderhorn) or something smaller?

Regards,

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Re: How to know the z/OS version by TSO login.

2005-06-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
you're logged into TSO; the READY prompt and IKJ msgs
are part of it.

D IPLINFO is an MVS system display command.
do you have SDSF or its equivalent ?
issue it from the SYSLOG screen (if you have the authority).


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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:23:47 +0800, Bo Xie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

   Someone told me to type in D IPLINFO in master console to know
the z/OS version.  But I can not touch the master console and get the
following errors by TSO login:
-
 READY
D IPLINFO
 IKJ56500I COMMAND D NOT FOUND
 READY
/D IPLINFO
 IKJ56621I INVALID COMMAND NAME SYNTAX
 READY
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How to know the z/OS version by TSO login? Thank you!

Best Regards,
Xie Bo

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Re: HELP- No Master Console

2005-05-25 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
hi John.

  how was Sysview used to recover them ?


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On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:50:10 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snipped]

Oh - I got an off-line message that they used Sysview to recover the
consoles. Just in case anybody else was interested. Certainly much
simplier that my use the interrupt key with its 14 step method. I
don't care what anybody says, I miss the older hardware at times.


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