Re: Recommendations on download monitor
Steve, How are you attached to the Net? I think (not sure, though) that some routers have built-in network monitoring capabilities, at least basic stats like you may need. Also, I think that Microsoft -- among others -- used to have a Network Manager program that would allow to collect stats. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
I quite liked Lisp. I haven't messed with it in years, but I just downloaded a version of Common Lisp that I plan to install on my laptop PC . . . where, no doubt, it will sit unused like so many other evidences of good intentions. Jon LISP could cause permanent brain damage! - LISP = LOTS of INSERTED STUPID PARENTHESES. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OT: Was spam sender
Making an OT thread even more OT, that reminds me of something I read just yesterday -- the case of the 500-mile email: http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html It's an interesting tale if you're into problem-solving. Jon Faking an email address is fairly simple. Well, at least if the receiver doesn't look too deeply at the headers. I even know how to do it with sendmail. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Anybody use a Wiki for internal information?
I set up a Wiki (using PMWiki -- very easy) for our department, runnning in a Linux guest under z/VM. I thought it worked pretty well. Unfortunately, we no longer have z/VM or Linux on the mainframe, so it is down for the moment. If I can ever get another box on which to host it I hope to bring it back up. All in all, it's a much better solution than sharing Word documents, and the less said about Sharepoint the better. Jon I have a real gut desire to organize our internal Tech Services into a Wiki. Something that is easily searchable with keywords. I'm having a real problem with "inertia" and "too much bother" from others in my group. At present, we tend to just document things in a MS Word document, then put that in a shared Windows folder with a "good" file name. We then ignore it. Does anybody out there think using Wiki software is reasonable and more effective? Has anybody actually done it? If so, on what platform and with what software? It is unlikely that we would host it on z/OS due to CPU usage. That would be considered not cost effective. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Movin' on Up!
In keeping with the name of your company, you should have burnt your old building. Jon Subject: Movin' on Up! http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/newlocation.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)
The next time you start a compile, toss some coins on the floor. The shiny money usually distracts them. Jon Unfortunately, I'm now back at my previous problem of "can I download this jar to my PC in order to do my compiles (not tests!) using it so that management stays off my back"? I can get away with small test runs in the "sandbox". I cannot get away with doing compiles. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copy from JES2 to a file
I generally just use the point-and-shoot options from the SDSF "Print" menu. Jon You described the more archaic (and IMO, more cumbersome) version of the XDC line command Lizette mentioned. You might want to look into the XDC line command ;-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Google groups and IBM-MAIN
As long as I have temporarily left lurk mode, has anyone else begun having problems with searching IBM-MAIN posts in Google Groups? I always used it because: a) It kept some load off the archive servers; and b) It was faster anyway. These days, though, it seems as if it has forgotten all of the old posts. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How often IPL a production LPAR (any good practice)
(Leaving lurk mode.) I think a distiction needs to be made between "applying maintenance" and simply changing some things. Applying SMPE maintenance to a running system can be a very Bad Idea. (Not that I haven't ever done it.) Changing system parameters, load libraries, linklists, etc. is no big deal. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How often IPL a production LPAR (any good practice) >Who says it's bad practice? A lot of people on this list! >There are many things that cannot be upgraded or maintained without an IPL, >but that doesn't make a bad practice out of those things that do not require >an IPL. No, but applying to something while it's running IS a bad practice! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
In that case, I'd be safe! Always a good idea. Let the people with the knowledge go. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: another one biting the dust?
Indeed. Linux on z/VM > Linux on bare-metal. Jon Linux will run on the bare metal on any architecture, including S/390 and System z (recognizing that Basic mode has gone away with System z). z/VM isn't a requirement, but it is a fantastic way to get the most out of your hardware resources. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP MEMBERS FROM PC TO MAINFRAME (HOW TO)
That surprises me. The point of turning prompting off was so that you wouldn't need to answer "Y" for each member. Jon This worked...only thing I had to do was answer 'Y' to each member... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?
We use a program from the CBT tape for this very thing. Todd's original need has been satisfied for the moment, as he didn't need to synchronize commands within a job stream. Even so, I prefer to use the program, as differing security parameters at our installation mean the IEFBR14 method works on the development system but not in production. I can't remember exactly which file had the program we use, but I know it was one from CBT. Jon I am sure there is something on the CBT tape. Search http://cbttape.org for command and batch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual (was: IBM PR: System z Announcement ...)
Can anybody get to this document? It keeps coming up as corrupted for me. Musta been around Chuckie too long. That would corrupt anybody. Jon An early prototype of this sort of technology has been demonstrated at the last few SHAREs. z/VM Live Guest Migration: http://www.linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE111/S9110rw.pdf -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PR: System z Announcement Webcast on October 21, 2008
Maybe by the last few, but certainly not by his whole body of posts. Radoslaw is a good contributor, and a mainframe guy from way back. He is in the position now, though, of trying to maximize price/performance from a larger standpoint, and that means making decisions based on the data at hand. He is just calling them as he sees them. I like my z box, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to cost-justify it these days, especially given our company size and applications. Jon It makes you think that his purpose in life is to trash System z, at least by the tone of his posts. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: foxit, was: Re: zOS R10
OK, that was my laugh-out-loud moment for the day. Jon I work as a consultant these days. I guess i am supposed to tell you things you already know :-)) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM THINK original equipment sign
We still do that sort of thing. You know, wear a competing vendor's polo shirt to a meeting, etc. It keeps things lively sometimes. Jon When I was at Amdahl, the tech services manager of one of (the ???) biggest Aussie customers had a pretty good collection of vendor mugs. He made a point of ensuring vendors got a competitors mug for coffee. Lots of fun around tender time - the "out-of-town" hot-shot salesmen didn't know which way to look when he made them a brew. Especially in a multi-vendor briefing ;-) Ah ... thems were the days. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hardware inventory
Thanks for the tip. I thought of that after John McKown sent his suggestion. I'll have to see whether I can figure out how to get OS/2 to start up a web server. Jon Plug a laptop or some such to your HMC/SE lan. Start the web server on the HMC. Use the laptop to access anything you need and copy/paste to a suitable editor. Works great, and keeps the family jewels safe from the evil company LAN :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Hardware inventory
As part of a project here, I need to provide a "Hardware Inventory" for one of our vendors. The description is "Please include an inventory of all hardware that includes the vendor, model, and feature code." I thought I might be able to go to the HMC or the SE and print a listing from there, but no go. I can bring up a listing, but I can't print it or copy/paste it. Is this data available anywhere on the system? I'm sure I have a hard copy of it somewhere, but I hate the thought of trying to locate it, the more so since I just got back from a BRS session and my desk is buried. Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9
No, actually I'm looking to move one 3390-3 to one 3390-9. These particular volumes are pretty much full and it's starting to cause us application problems. The application in question has its own means of parceling out which data sets go where. I would much prefer to move these things a volume at a time rather than a file at a time. Changing all the volumes to be SMS-managed and putting them in pools would be the best solution, but there are a couple of minor reasons I don't want to put any effort into that if I can simply move some of them to mod 9s and be done with it for a while. SMS management of these volumes will come, though. Oh yes, it will come. Jon Moving the DSNs with DSS/FDR should be easy enough. You shouldn't need SMS, but hard to image that kind of volume and not SMS. You can tell DSS to move to a pool of DASD, you specify the VOLSERs and the amount of space to use. But your scenario seem more like a logical move, and recatalog, of 2-3 Mod3 to 1 Mod9 but you could move numerous MOD3 to several MOD9. If a DSN is allocated, it won't move. So a repetitive process should get them all moved. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9
Yes, they do, but we don't have them. We do have TDMF, though. Jon Innovation Software ( FDR ) has some slick products to do this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9
I had considered that, but there are tons of data sets on these volumes, some of which rarely get reorged. The volumes aren't SMS-managed, so I can't use the pool method that Lizette mentioned, either. Jon I have another possibility that I have used when moving to new dasd. Just change the delete defines to either point to the new packs or to the new storage class for the mod 9's. Then, when the dataset is reorged, as long as it gets reorged on a daily, weekly, or montly or whatever basis, it will get moved. > If the M9 is in a pool, you could just copy the datasets to the new volume > with DFDSS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9
Thanks, John. That's just the ticket. Jon You can move a mod3 to a mod9 but not three mod3 to one mod9. You need to specify ICKDSF on your options statement if you do not have AUTOMATIC ICKDSF=YES. TDMF will invoke ickdsf to refresh the vtoc to show the increased capacity on the volume(s). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9
I stated my question poorly. I know that I would user the REFVTOC command to refresh the VTOC. What I don't remember is whether that is what I used to accomplish this when I did it before. I'm not even completely sure I did it successfully. Thanks, Jon ICKDSF's REFVTOC command? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9
I potentially have a need to move -- preferably on the fly -- some volumes from 3390 model 3 to 3390 model 9 devices. I can use the wonderful TDMF to move like-to-like volumes, and it seems to me that I figured out a way to move mod-3s to mod-9s. Unfortunately, I can't remember what I did, and I can't find any notes about it. IIRC, I moved a volume, but it was not recognized as having the larger capacity until I . . . did something, like maybe refresh the VTOC or some such. Has anybody done this? Is it possible? Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Going unsupported - time to fold?
FWIW, I pretty much agree with you. I'm not terribly comfortable with the "Let it fail" philosophy, though; I would feel obligated to try to save the company/agency some pain if I could do it simply by pointing out some potential red flags. To address the OP, I would think the risks of not doing the 1.9 migration are nearly non-existent. The risks of not having support, though, are a bit higher. We are small shop, but there have been times when having access to IBMLink (when it worked) saved us from much pain. Jon I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but all the posts notwithstanding, the problem here isn't failure, but the fear that it might actually succeed. If the project is as doomed to failure as many have been saying, then so what! Let it fail. It might be a difficult time and a humbling experience for some, but in the end the original system will be vindicated. However, I suspect that the real concern is that it might actually work. Maybe not as well ... maybe without all the bells and whistles, but in the end if it does tha job, then management will have been vindicated in the decision. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Performance report help
OK, thanks for that. I'm having vague memories (the only kind I have any more) about going through this exercise before. I can't find any of the jobs I had worked up, though; it may be that I didn't get any useful information at the time. I'll see what I get, though. Thanks, Jon Yes. Job/Step Accounting -- SMF Type 30. If you have/had interval accounting turned on. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Performance report help
Thanks for that information, Tom. I think I might start running it on a full-time basis. I'll need to check the parms first, though. Jon Jon, FWIW, I always run RMFMON II. The overhead is minimal compared to when I use it, which is often. YMMV, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Performance report help
It has been a long time since I looked at it, but I don't think we can use MXG. We don't have SAS, and isn't that an MXG requirement? Thanks, Jon When I've had to determine what job(s) have caused a large CPU increase over an interval I've used the SMF type 30 interval records. If you have Barry Merrill's MXG the information from them is in the SMFINTRV dataset. By using them you can limit the analysis to a short interval rather than over the full time of the job. Of course if you talking about several days of data it would be a lot of information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Performance report help
>Take a look at the type 30 records. Ah, yes. That would be the section in the book on my desk with a sticky-label bookmark . . . that says, "Type 30 CPU." In my own handwriting. Perhaps I should just give up now. >CBT file 529 (among others) has a program which can print a report from the type 30 data. OK, thanks for that tip. I have downloaded and compiled it and have it running now. I'll see what it gives me. Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Performance report help
We have a mystery that needs to be solved, and I am having trouble coming up with a report that would help me do it. Here are the particulars along with a couple of questions: Our CPU usage had been trending upward -- as it generally does -- for several weeks, when we finally started hitting the wall hard during first shift. CICS transaction times were starting to elongate, batch jobs were taking much, much longer to run than usual, etc. We went a couple of weeks trying to mitigate things as much as possible, when suddenly, for no reason that we could detect, system usage dropped one day and we have been OK ever since. Naturally, upon inquiring we found that no one had done anything. Right. Anyway, I am trying to create a report detailing CPU usage by job for several of our heavy hitters during the days prior to the big drop. We have both RMF and TMON, but I am having little luck with either of them. For RMF, it appears that SMF type 79 records might contain what I need, but those appear to only be cut when RMF II is turned on, and we do not have RMF II activated on a regular basis. For TMON, it appears that JD (Job Delta, IIRC) records would have what we need, but, again, they are not generated on a regular basis. Questions: 1) Are there other SMF records that could tell me what I want to know? 2) Are there other TMON records that could tell me? 3) For those of you running RMF, do you have RMF II sessions running at all times? If so, does it consume a lot of overhead? 4) For those of you running TMON, do you cut JD records as a usual thing? If so, how much does it add to your TMON overhead? Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Thanks for the tip. I have avoided FROMNETWORK in the past since we haven't configured cryptographic services, but I may give it a shot next time. Thanks, Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues No it doesn't, but check back thru the archives for the past 6 months. I had an issue where I don't have crypto, either in hardware or in the appropriate level of JAVA, and hit some snags due to incorrect DDDEF entries in my receive job. You can contact me offlist if you want me to dig back thru my notes on it. Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Does the Internet receive still require cryptographic services? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM sites on Google Maps
Do they have a Front Side Bus? Jon I pass by streets "tape drive" and "disk drive" next to Storage Tech near Boulder, CO. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.7 with toleration PTFs for 1.9
But he's still on 1.7, isn't he? I don't think TN3270 was required to be split out until 1.8, was it? Or was it 1.7? Jon I don't know what you are calling it, but you must be if you are using TN3270. It is required as of z/OS 1.9. If it is falling into some low priority service class, then it could be that it is only TN3270 having a problem when the system is very heavily loaded and not the entire system as was previously mentioned. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer
To those of you who helped me with this problem earlier: thank you. After a bout of illness, I resumed working on our transfer and eventually -- with the help of the sysadmin at the server site -- got it working. Morals of the story: 1) Google is your friend, but he can be a confusing friend. 2) The guy on the other end of the pipe can help you a lot. Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU-Time in z/Os-System. Is The Cpu Time In z/Os-systems A Meaningful Indication?
Chris has said (better than I could) what I was thinking. First stop should be DB2. Jon If the amount of data really is about the same then you have to look to the organization of the data. For your input files; the block size may have changed which could lead to an increase in CPU time, but it is unlikely that you would see such a big change. For your output; there are lots of minor changes that can have major impacts on performance in DB2. That pretty much leaves DB2 as the potential culprit. I would look there first. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Video of mainframe being shaken
I wonder if you were battling "tin whiskers." NASA had to deal with those on some of their space-race spacecraft. Jon We had a bunch of Amdahl 6280's that had a problem with a string of some metallic substance that would grow (as a crystal) from the nameplate down to the platter. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
Good ideas on both counts. AIX is good stuff, and so is pSeries. Jon Our new head of "Open Systems" is said to be an AIX bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a start. I've also heard that he would prefer that the main AIX sysadmins be the z/OS people (us'ns) and not the current MCSEs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Batch job to perform sftp transfer
WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency which has formerly received a tape from us. They have set up an sftp server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us to use. I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign on from z/OS. It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO. Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client session, but that entails some security work which has not been performed. (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for it any time soon, either.) This makes testing and experimenting slow. Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated. If I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do this in batch mode using ID/password authentication. Can anyone say whether this is correct? Am I going to need to get the remote server to add our keys to their setup? Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe
For that matter, I have run (well, started, anyway) Tomcat under Unix on z/OS using Dovetailed Technologies' JZOS. WebSphere not required. Jon I've suggested to IBM they should do exactly that, and in addition they should provide a port of Apache and Tomcat (outside of WebSphere) to encourage wider use of the platform. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New Opcodes
I think it's "Pity The Fool." It's a very dangerous op-code to attempt. Not many people know that Mr. T moonlights as a hardware architect. Jon > Second, there was one mnemonic that caught my eye. I do not > know what it does, but it's probably one that none of us will > forget: PTF. > > > > Keith E. Moe Perform The Following? Maybe it is the long wanted "execute immediate" instruction? Waiting with worm on tongue to read more. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape
Glen, Thanks for this information. I don't think I have seen this any place else. Jon Unix tar files have a length that is a multiple of 512. I would expect either RECFM=FB LRECL=512, or RECFM=U and a block size some multiple of 512. Each file stored in a tar file has a 512 byte header, and is padded to the next 512 byte boundary. If you change the blocksize, the data should be fine but you sometimes get a warning when tar gets to the end of the file. The blocksize is specified on the tar command with the b option as a multiplier of 512. That is, the default of 20 gives a 10240 byte BLKSIZE. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wheeler Postings (Was: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?)
Here, for instance: http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b4 8? Jon Lynn has answered that question a while ago. Check the archives. (His or ibm-main's) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape
Just to clarify this from my experimenting, SDB does not do the trick; IEBGENER hurks up a hairball if you try this. Thanks, Jon >//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER >//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* >//SYSIN DD DUMMY >//SYSUT1 DD PATH='/path/to/file.tar',FILEDATA=BINARY, >// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=1,BLKSIZE=8000) >//SYSUT2 DD DSN=TAPE.OUTPUT.TAR,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), >// UNIT=TAPE,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=1,BLKSIZE=0,DSORG=PS) >// > >Note that the BLKSIZE=8000 on the SYSUT1 doesn't really matter too much. >Any valid value will do. > But I'm not sure that SDB would supply a valid value if you code BLKSIZE=0 and OPEN for input. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying Unix tar file to tape
Thanks for the tips, folks. I think I'm going to switch to pax for now, and I have downloaded omvstape to look at later. By the way, there is a slight misprint in the 1.8 Unix commands manual. To add parameters to dictate space allocation and such, the format is something like this: pax -W "seqparms='RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,space=(cyl,(300,50))'" -wvf "//'dbajeb.subv.pax'" /dir/to/backup (There is mention of this in OA12816.) Thanks again, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Copying Unix tar file to tape
I am trying to write out a Unix System Services file -- a tar archive -- to tape. For simplicity's sake, I was planning on using IEBGENER, but I'm a bit confused as to what file characteristics to use for this. Anybody out there have any sample JCL? Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NFS mount of zLinux file system -- port
I am experimenting with mounting a Linux file system (RHEL 4, running under zVM) on z/OS. I can get it to work, but it wants to use an unsecured port (4005, I think it was). How can I get NFS on z/OS to use a particular port? Is it a matter of setting it in the TCP/IP profile? Is it a parm entered on the MOUNT command? The manual has led me around in circles on this, but that may be my own fault. Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
The authors were discussing the use of Java as the students' *first* programming language. Anyway, I'm not so sure I hold to the "it's just another language" mindset as much as I used to. It seems to me that there are important differences between the way you conceive of and design a program in assembler/COBOL/C versus, say, Ruby or Java. Jon Why should what language is taught matter, after the second or third language, IF you are a programmer, it's just another language. Mostly syntax, some semantics. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
>From the first link below: "jfmiller call to our attention two professors emeritus of computer science at New York University who have penned an article titled Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow? in which they berate their university, and others, for not teaching solid languages like C, C++, Lisp, and ADA." C++ is a solid language? I must have missed the memo on that. Jon Here is a posting and accompanying article on Slashdot which you may enjoy. http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/01/08/0348239.shtml http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The future of PDSs
No, they denied it. See here: http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/index.html#slot7 Jon I don't know if it was a dig, but Arthur C. Clark and Stanley Kubrek did admit HAL was based on IBM's name. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The future of PDSs
Exactly. Jon As in "Boss! z/PLAIN, z/PLAIN!"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The future of PDSs
Depending on how things go here in the next couple of years, either Nessus or Laomedon. Jon Any nominations? :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The future of PDSs
Instead of z/BASIC, it should be "z/PLAIN." Jon z/BASIC, z/DEVELOPER, z/BUSINESS, z/ENTERPRISE, and of course z/ULTIMATE . Keep in mind that I'm in the U.S.A. where we pronounce "z" as "zee", not "zed". Also keep in mind the bad German accent in English movies where "zee" is "the". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you collect your Discribuetd systems jobs?
Similarly to Bruno, we schedule everything from z/OS, except that we use CA-Scheduler instead of TWS. As for the sysout, we just leave it on the individual machine concerned and browse it there at need. Jon We use TWS ( OPCPLEX) on our Z/os Sysplex with end to end feature , we schedule all jobs on distributed server from Z/os . We currently schedule batch ( scripts) on AIX ( pseries ) Linux ( red hat) and quite a few Windows servers . Using the OPC Data Store allows you to look at the output from sdsf -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
No, I'm going for the popcorn franchise for all those people watching this play out. Jon I think it is time to 'get tough' on this issue of laptop mainframes. In the letter to Sam Palmisano we should threaten a mass migration of mainframe professionals over to 'Waffle & Dinges.' (Will the Waffle & Dinges guy franchise out his business?). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: I Got a Job
I highly recommend "In a Sunburned Country." Jon Ironically, I was just talking about him a week or so ago. I bought his book "A Walk in the Woods" about hiking the Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maine. A pretty good read but I hadn't heard the name in years until now. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK ETR Update Issues
You have hit on a sore point with me. I'm still not sure why we have to pay extra for IBMLink in the first place. Jon So any chance on a refund from IBM, seeing that we're paying top dollars for something that hasn't been working for the past 4-5 days? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Release 6.0
In the immortal words of Bill Cosby, "Never challenge 'Worse.'" Jon that was me that said it couldn't possibly get any worse , okay, bad mistake on that one. I apologize -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Release 6.0
Part of agile programming is continuous testing as the product is developed. This seems more fragile than agile. Jon Welcome to the wonderful world of the Web and "agile programming"! Why waste money paying for testers? Just release the product and the buyers will become your unpaid Q&A people. And, what is really nice, is that if the buyer doesn't like it, what can they do? NOTHING! Because everybody does it this way now. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another squirrel strike
>From the article Phil linked to: As a rather poignant footnote, the Jersey Journal notes that the Millars' house is fully decked out in anticipation of Halloween, "complete with a tiny plastic tombstone on their front lawn". Tony Millar said the family "will consider dedicating the tombstone to the squirrel." We had a squirrel take down the data center once, maybe twenty or so years ago. Jon ISTR one of their number taking hte list down a while back ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/24/kamikaze_squirrel/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: multiple z/OS sharing considerations.
It kinda depends on how your work is separated. We have a production LPAR and a development/test LPAR. We IPL production and off it goes whether test is up or not; there's no waiting for test. Jon If you have one machine, and it crashes or loses power, then your whole sysplex crashes, and your outage is probably longer because you have to start 2 Lpars and connect them before starting your work back up. Granted, if one Lpar crashes, the other will keep going. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: multiple z/OS sharing considerations.
Another possible -- although perhaps a bit questionable -- benefit of multiple images is that it gives you another layer of control over system resources allocated to your production work. WLM is a fine thing, but it does have its gotchas; LPAR weighting can assure that the production systems *always* outweigh the others. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VARY too many devices offline
I hate to even think about the pain that might have caused. Jon or the operator who put a future date at IPL time and really screwed up RACF. (story I heard from another company) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: multiple z/OS sharing considerations.
A couple of questions, to try to avoid the risk of entering a "teaching grandma to suck eggs" scenario: How do you upgrade z/OS or ISV software currently if you are only running one image? Do you have a Coupling Facility in this CEC? FWIW, I can't see any advantages at all to going with monoplexes. If you don't have a CF then I don't think I'd parallel sysplex. Jon I know that is vague. What has happened is that somebody with political clout is strongly pushing the idea that having two separate z/OS images on a single CEC (separate LPARs of course) would be "better" than having a single z/OS system. They have not defined "better". We have not decided on how to implement this. I know of three possibilities, in my order of desirability: (1) Parallel Sysplex; (2) basic sysplex; (3) separate monoplexes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VARY too many devices offline
Color me disbelieving. I think in the 30+ years I have been around OS360 and MVS and z/os, there has never been an operator mistake of a typo. Not buying this, either: I have seen operators make errors but the OS has caught all of them and no harm was done. Jan's take is correct: outlawing mistakes does not mean they won't happen. (They're "mistakes," see.) It also doesn't do much for protecting your system integrity; nor does it signify any sort of effective management. Demanding 100% correctness from your people on pain of termination is not only futile and irrational, it can be counter-productive. I'm not saying that errors should be taken lightly, but expecting that you'll never see someone type "V 110E-1107,OFFLINE" instead of "V 1103-1107,OFFLINE" is not realistic. And simply advocating a sacrificial firing or two doesn't really help. It's awfully easy to be free with someone else's livelihood. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RES: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
It's funny you should mention the provided utilities. IBM recently (last year? The year before?) unbundled at least some of their utilities from the base DBMS. You have to buy them separately now. Jon Also, I believe that there are more DB2 and IMS utilities available than there are for ADABAS. The original question did not mention maintaining the products only using the provided utilities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ADABAS vs DB2 vs IMS - Another View
Part of your basic question -- "will each of these do the job I need" -- can be out of the hands of the technical staff on-site. At this shop, we run CA-Datacom, Model 204, and DB2 on the mainframe. We don't run three DBMSes just for kicks, though. Our decision, back in the 80's, for writing our patient accounting system was to use Datacom. It has a small footprint and good performance; in order to get equivalent performance from DB2 (at that time) we would have had to have a bigger machine. DB2 itself was cheap, but the costs associated with the hardware upgrade were not. Model 204 was required for the decision support package we bought, so that's how we got that. Ditto for DB2 and the patient care package we ended up getting. "Faster" and "better" only entered into the first decision -- on our end, anyway. Jon These days I ask the basic question; will each of these do the job I need. If one does not, I have no interest even if it is the fastest. If they all do the job, then do they all perform in the same range. Hey, one will naturally be faster; we are obsessed with knowing who is the winner. If one is really slow, then cast it out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
Two excellent points. The first design decision mentioned -- re resource accounting -- is helpful in many ways but makes this particular comparison fairly difficult. It is also worth noting -- and I think someone may have already mentioned this -- that different DBMSes often perform well at different tasks. One DBMS may scream along at sequential processing but choke on lots of random table accesses. You're back to the old "how do you write the benchmarks" question. Jon As a sysprog i don't know which one is faster or causes less overhead, but there is a point not commented out. For accounting purposes, DB2 does not consume any amount of CPU when processing SQL commads. It repasses this CPU to the client address space. There is another point, WLM uses the DB2 requester's DP. This way your online requests are privileged in comparation with batch requests (If online service classes are superior to batch ones). As far as i know ADABAS process batch or online requests the same way. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
. . . except that you haven't done anything to answer the original question, from Itschak: " I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist that claimed that ADABAS is much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is this true?" Radoslaw and Allan, among others, have actually attempted answers. So far, all you have done is say "Nuh,uh. They don't know what they're talking about." I have insulted nothing and no one. All I have done is ask for a more constructive answer than the above. Jon I do not subscribe to this list to "take a Pot Shot at any one" but as they taught me in the "Dale Carnegie courses" many years a'go, you should always state your point clearly otherwise some people might not "get it".. The Point I was trying to make : Would you subscribe to the "embryonic stem cells research" email list and then propose to Oliver Smithies, Martin Evans and Mario Capecchi what to do ? Summary: Yes, I have been working with Adabas, IMS and DB2 for the last 30 years. Even went back to IBM 4 years a'go to do all the DB2 courses in Dallas but then again, if you where subscribed to any of the Database email lists, I would not have to introduce myself to you. Note: These postings I had a "pot shot at" was people making statements about things they knew nothing about zero.. zippo . Maybe their wives/grandmothers would be impressed with their statements but please, do not expect us to "clap" on an "IBM Technical list"... You are insulting my intelligence, my experience and everything I got paid for, for the last 30 years. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
Did you have a different answer than Allan's "It depends," or were simply taking the opportunity once again to take a potshot at someone for no good reason? Jon Summarized : a) So you never worked with ADABAS in your life b) You only worked with IMS and DB2 for 5 years... maybe as a user but you are talking about : a) SQL b) Database access methods c) Which Database people should be using Summarized : Are you working for the 'White house" maybe because everybody there is also experts but the funny part ? "your post your findings to an IBM technical list"... Tell me , what should I invest my money in ? I need investment advice too.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FW: Industry Standard Time To Analyze A Line Of Code
OK, for those who have (rightly) pointed out the problems with LOC as a performance measure: what can we come up with that would be better? Ted mentioned function points. Is there anything else? Measuring stuff is a large part of our job; do we have any worthwhile metrics? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: My turn to grip about ServiceLink
I actually prefer the idea of a web-based solution; I can access it from work, home, a hotel, or the coffee shop down the road. As long as it works. Jon I would hope that there is now a plan-B (and hopefully a plan-C, just in case) but we won't know for a while. I suspect that they will be web-based just because the web is the nearly universal access medium now, but so what? If it works (unlike the current implementation) we get the service we expect/need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tech Notes - Any body know about them or where they are hidden?
I wouldn't mind so much using the search function at ibm.com if: a) You could get it to work without timing out most of the time; b) You could filter the results better; c) When you click on a search result link, you could actually get the page referenced most of the time rather than the "Link not found" page. I realize that everything is easy when it's someone else's job, but for the life of me, I can't understand why the foremost information technology firm in the world has such a difficult time making their public face work reliably. Jon Would a search on the following site have provided you with the info you needed? http://www.ibm.com/support/us/en/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wikiscanner
Which reminds me: Wikipedia Celebrates 750 Years of American Independence! http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50902 It's a classic. Jon Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up. If anyone can change it, how can you trust any of it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]
Here's one that I remember reading a while back: http://www.cio.com/article/131500/Eight_of_the_Worst_Spreadsheet_Blunder s The article itself even has an amusing error in blunder #3, entitled "Fannie Mae Discovers $1.3 Billion "Honest" Mistake. They quote from PC World: 'Fannie Mae, which finances home mortgages, stated in a news release of third-quarter financials that it had discovered a $1.136 billion error in total shareholder equity. Jayne Shontell, Fannie Mae senior vice president for investor relations, explained in a written statement, "There were honest mistakes made in a spreadsheet used in the implementation of a new accounting standard."' 1.136 = 1.3? Jon I've seen many a non-programming type (secretaries, VP's, accountants, and other usual suspects) build spreadsheets and assume, that because they typed it in, the figures were accurate. Not learning any programming discipline, they never learned to check for boundary conditions, cross-checking of rows vs columns, etc. I've seen corporate reports with tables with !#DIV/0 in the final product. I wish I could still find a copy of an article, from last year, that stated most re-statements of earnings were due to people without the discipline just dumping data into a spread sheet (without checking). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HFS in master catalog
Our HFS datasets are all currently SMS-managed and cataloged in the master catalog. I'm thinking of moving them to a usercat to facilitate OS upgrades. To judge by the IBM-MAIN archives, this seems like a reasonable thing to do. Are there any particular things I need to keep in mind when I do this? Any nasty gotchas to beware of? Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Chips the Size of Dust ??
It's only fair. I have dust the size of chips. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
That is what I did. It worked fine. In fact, jEdit can be configured with an "ftp" plugin to edit files on z/OS. It is a little tricky to setup, but works very cool, and supports setting the encoding and line-terminators of the file. Hmmm, never tried that. I don't do much in the way of coding these days, though, and I'm way out of touch with much of the common methods of operation. We just recently created our first CVS repository -- on Linux under VM -- and if we can get the problems worked out with the subclipse plugin we might switch it over to subversion. But, what I tend to do most when developing a "project" of code is to setup the source tree in Eclipse and then use an "ant" script to incrementally upload any changed files, using the "ftp" task with the "depends" tag. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
I had a Java-based editor (jEdit, I think) loaded on my old PC that I could use to edit files under z/OS. It was perfect for editing ASCII files that needed to reside on OMVS. Perhaps I'm odd, but I like both vi and OEDIT, at least to some degree. NFS-mounting a z/OS file system is on my to-do list. Jon I use both "vi" (well actually vim on Linux) and OEDIT. Of course, I mean in the appropriate environment (OEDIT in TSO OMVS) and vi on a telnet login. Both have strengths and weaknesses. There are things that I can do so easily in OEDIT but have never figured out how to do in "vi" (like C 'A' 'B' ALL 5 to change all "A"s in column 5 to "B"s. Or use start and end labels). But I absolutely adore the use of regular expressions in "vi". Believe it or not, I NFS mount a subdirectory on my Linux desktop system on z/OS. I then use both "vim" on Linux and OEDIT on z/OS to edit files that I keep stored on my Linux system. Granted, this means exiting one editor and enter the other, back and forth, to do some things. But it is efficient for me. The NFS mount attributes successfully manage the EBCDIC/ASCII translation for me. So, does this mean that the people from the "funny farm" will be calling?. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
Using normal 3270 access? I get "FSUM9140 Terminal "dumb" has insufficient capabilities for Curses." Jon I don't understand. You don't have to wait for telnet. You can do this under omvs directly. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
Thanks for the tip. I haven't tried accessing OMVS from a telnet session yet. When I do, I plan to give this a try. Jon The following works for me: #! /bin/sh # DOS text to UNIX -- convert to exec sed -e 's/^M$//' "$@" ... where "^M" represents an actual 0x0d character, entered in vi by pressing ctrl-V Return. One could presumably do likewise with OEDIT HEX ON. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
Thanks, John. The "tr" command seems to have worked. I don't have perl installed yet. Jon However, if you want to remove all 0x0D characters, even those in the middle of a line, you can: tr -d '\015' output.file.without.x0d If you have Perl installed, then this will do what I think you want: perl -n -i.bak -e 's/\015$//;print' input.file At the end of this program, input.file will have trailing 0x0d (015 octal) characters removed. The original file will be "input.file.bak". If you don't want a "backup" file, then: perl -n -i -e 's/\015$//;print' input.file will work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zOS Unix DOS2UNIX
Is there a version of DOS2UNIX that runs on z/OS Unix? I thought there might be one on the "Tools and Toys" page, but it appears not. Thanks, Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Age Poll Results: 49.47
I went to a class once. Jon > I had the opposite experience. As a rookie I went to classes all the time. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink down
Remind me not to ever work with the IBM Web Authentication system. Jon The IBMLINK/ServiceLink Web service was disrupted on July 30 and 31 for approximately 3 hours each day due to a Information Technology Infrastructure problem with the **IBM Web Authentication** system . . . As regards the ServiceLink outage of August 1 for approximately 5 hours, there were two unique root causes. One issue was that the **IBM Web Authentication** incorrect system setting change and . . . secondly an error in the Domain Name Server caused **IBM Web Authentication** and other applications like IBMLINK/ServiceLink web platform requests to fail . . . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Linux - any specific DASD requirements?
A couple of links for Linux documentation: The Linux documentation project: www.tldp.org The Linux-390 list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/index.html CentOS: http://www.centos.org/ CentOS is a re-creation of Red Hat Enterprise Linux from source, without any of Red Hat's proprietary stuff. There are CentOS 4 versions for s390 (32-bit) and s390x (64-bit) systems. If you have z/VM available, I highly recommend installing Linux under that; running it in an LPAR works fine, though. Linux is fairly small -- depending on which components you install, of course -- so 10 mod-3s should be plenty for getting your feet wet. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Linux - any specific DASD requirements? My Z/OS support is going to set up a Linux LPAR and wants to know if there are any Linux specific DASD requirements. Or should I just give him 10 3390-3s and tell him to have fun? For my own edification, where might I find Linux doc? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
Thanks for the link, Dave. The one I had no longer worked. Jon > From: Jon Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers > that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, > but I can't find it. I don't have it, but you can get it here: http://tinyurl.com/htolh More links here: http://jobstar.org/tools/salary/sal-comp.php -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
Thanks for this reference, Lizette. I hadn't heard of that one. I'm not interested in changing jobs, but it's nice to know that there is a place to look for this sort of thing. Jon My website of Choice for salary ranges is in SALARY.COM. The wizard is free and seems fair in its ranges. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, but I can't find it. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)
Of course, one of the downsides is that whole "neuter" thing. Jon Oh Lindy I dont know - free board and lodging, someone to clean up after you and cuddles whenever you want them and no other expectations at all. Not even taxes. You'll be looked after until the end of your days (if you choose your household well), so no worries about pension and stuff. Sounds like a good second choice to me! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)
Maybe I'm a bit unusual, but I have always wanted to visit Poland. Russia, too. Jon Well, I was watching a Rick Steve's Europe show about Krakow and Warsaw last night. They both look like nice cities to live in and I understand that Poland is looking for mainframe expertise. Maybe it's time to learn Polish. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)
Egad, that's a stressful life. I don't think I could take that for very long. My sympathy to you. Jon . . . these days my working day starts at about 9am and finishes about midnight. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)
You left out: c) Amazingly good-looking, intelligent, and affable technical staff. Jon It means Itanium is 4.3 times faster than AMD. I doubt it. BTW: IMHO comparison of CPUs is senseless when we talk about *computer speed*. What about I/O ? I saw Hercules on PC, almost 40MIPS, but TSO logon time was over 5 minutes. Every I/O operation was slooow. IMHO the strengths of mainframe are: a) I/O b) OS -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stooped to What? And for Whom?
For my part, I stoop to concur. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Stooped to What? And for Whom? Famously, one may "stoop to conquer"; but here . . . ? John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ http://newlivehotmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM withdraws Z890 ?!?!?!
After a few years' experience, I have come to wonder whether it's even possible to be too pedantic for this list. Jon That also uses the term properly, since (as a trademarked term) it is an adjective, not a noun. (But that may be getting too pedantic :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Operating systems are old and busted
. . . and for those of you who -- like me -- were made curious by Shane's remark, here is the minix3 URL: http://www.minix3.org/ >From the site: What hardware do I need to run MINIX 3? You need an Intel 386 or higher with 4 MB of RAM, an IDE hard disk with100 MB of free disk space, and an IDE CD-ROM for booting. It is not possible to boot off a USB CD-ROM drive (yet). Jon Why wait ???. Last week I meandered into the minix3 site - what goes around comes around. Kernel is around 4000 lines - IP and X included. Will have to give it a go, just for the experience. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help with UNIX abend
>From horrid experience, I can recognize the 0F01C008 as a dubbing failure, >most likely a security problem, such as the lack of an OMVS segment (the 44 in >R1 supports this). As for finding the error codes, good luck. They are >harder to find than facts in a political speech. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help with UNIX abend Okay, I hate UNIX abend codes. They just do not seem to parse easily. So would some kind soul help me understand this problem? +CEE0374C CONDITION=CEE3250C TOKEN=00040CB2 61C3C5C5 527 WHILE RUNNING PROGRAM BPXINLPA AT THE TIME OF INTERRUPT PSW 478D3400 866FC45E GPR 0-3 0044 84EC6000 009C 0B0C00FC GPR 4-7 88D9ED0A 0F01C008 0044 01027068 GPR 8-B 0001 7F58DA68 GPR C-F 066FC6E0 18585978 866FAB9C 0F01C008<--- FLT 0-2 484665D0F454DE7D 1800 FLT 4-6 I know it could be the UID is not properly established for the USER ID, but I would love to find the error definition in some book. Searching on 0F01C008 only yeilds SAS issues. But I would like a little more details. Thanks. Lizette PS MAXPROCSYS is okay. I am well within the limits. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?
The "curious" part was that I thought you were seeing JES2MON eating more CPU than JES2 on your production system. Upon looking back, though, I see it was your sandbox. That makes a lot more sense. Jon Why curious? That would be more normal behavior. The monitor is looking at things even on an idle system, so in a sandbox that is just sitting idle most of the time, the monitor takes more CPU than JES2 itself does. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?
Curious. On my production system, JES2 has used about 6 times the CPU as JES2MON. Jon >Mark Zelden wrote: >> Even in my sandbox it looks like this: >> >> NET 5278.54 >> XCFAS 2947.96 >> WLM 2565.59 >> MIA 1887.83 >> GRS 1862.82 >> MII 1800.62 >> RMFGAT 1776.38 >> *MASTER*1235.15 >> TCPIP945.06 >> SVOS 943.20 >> JES2MON 873.01 >> > >And, where is JES2 itself on this list? It does look silly when the >monitor uses more CPU than the monitee (is that even a word?). Monitoree? Have to add a few more... My screen was still on the same display so all the other numbers are the same. NET 5278.54 XCFAS 2947.96 WLM 2565.59 MIA 1887.83 GRS 1862.82 MII 1800.62 RMFGAT 1776.38 *MASTER*1235.15 TCPIP945.06 SVOS 943.20 JES2MON 873.01 OMPROUTE 833.35 ZFS 819.11 JES2 695.86 > >JES2's monitors should probably use an adaptive algorithm that gets more >aggressive when needed. JES3 monitors use very little CPU until >something appears out of the ordinary. Then they crank up. > Sounds like a good approach to me. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
