Re: ISMF QUESTION
Lizette, I checked the dsns, and they all have Management Classes assigned to them. Thanks From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:15:49 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error message as you had described. The MC Name line still has --. Is it possible that when the dataset was created it did not have an Mgmtclas assigned? To test it, create a similar file that will go through your ACS code the same way. Then go into ISMF and see if the mgmtclass is defined. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Greg, I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error message as you had described. The MC Name line still has --. From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:04:04 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION Esmie, If you enter MCDEL1 into the VALUE column in the Entry Type line, you should get the INVALID ENTRY TYPE error message on the panel. If you want to limit your listing by a particular management class, you would enter the MC name in the VALUE column for the Management Class Name line, and EQ in the Rel Op column - like so: Management Class Name . . EQ DEFAULT In any case, I experimented with requesting a list of data sets for a specific management class (and we only have one at my shop) and it appears that, for VSAM, only the cluster entry will include the MC information, for the DATA or INDEX components, the column will be blank. On the other hand, I do not have a DEFAULT management class defined, and yet when I request ISMF produce a list of data sets, as above, with MC EQ DEFAULT, I get a list of data sets. It's as though ISMF considers a null value for the MC as a match. Sounds like a bug to me HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION Greg, On page 5 for ENTRY TYPE I used the following : Entry Type . . . . . . . .EQMCDEL1MCDEL2 I was restricting my search for these 2 particular MCs. However, since it was showing -- in MC CLASS column of the report I removed these MCs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Sorry, the only thing I was trying to suggest is that you report this issue to IBM. It appears to me to be an ISMF bug. Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:39 PM Greg, I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error message as you had described. The MC Name line still has --. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error message as you had described. The MC Name line still has --. Is it possible that when the dataset was created it did not have an Mgmtclas assigned? To test it, create a similar file that will go through your ACS code the same way. Then go into ISMF and see if the mgmtclass is defined. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Greg, On page 5 for ENTRY TYPE I used the following : Entry Type . . . . . . . .EQMCDEL1MCDEL2 I was restricting my search for these 2 particular MCs. However, since it was showing -- in MC CLASS column of the report I removed these MCs. From: Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:04:17 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION Are you limiting your list in ISMF by specifying anything on page 5 for Entry Type? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:59 AM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Lizette, The dsns (majority) are PS. There are a few VSAM files. From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:17:58 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION I used the from CATALOG but I still have the same problem. Are the for non vsam or vsam datasets? If Vsam, is it possible the information is only on the Cluster and not the Data/index parts? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Mike, I would like to try out your suggestion. When you say browse the resulting file wouldn't that have the same data i.e. -- in the MC as extracted by ISMF? Maybe I misunderstood what you said. Could you provide me with an example? From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:24:13 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION You might want to code a DCOLLECT and browse the resulting file. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? Thanks in adance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Esmoo, the dcollect output data can be browsed but it is fairly ugly. It also puts out different record types that you need to distinguish from for processing. You really need something like SAS or possibly SORT to reformat the data into something legible if you want an ongoing report. The dcollect would look something like this although there are multiple parameters you can choose from: //STEP03 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTDSDD DSN=DISK.DATASET.DCOLLECT(+1), // UNIT=DISK, // DSORG=PS, // RECFM=VB,LRECL=932, // SPACE=(1,(5,25000),RLSE),AVGREC=K, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) //BCDS DD DSN=DFHSM.BCDS,DISP=SHR //MCDS DD DSN=DFHSM.MCDS,DISP=SHR //SYSINDD * DCOLLECT - OFILE(OUTDS) - ERRORLIMIT(1000) - VOLUMES(*) I use SAS to generate a report from dcollect data that contains the dsn, creation date, lastrf date, lastbk date, expdt, volser, allocated and used space as well as SMS classes if SMS managed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION Mike, I would like to try out your suggestion. When you say browse the resulting file wouldn't that have the same data i.e. -- in the MC as extracted by ISMF? Maybe I misunderstood what you said. Could you provide me with an example? From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:24:13 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION You might want to code a DCOLLECT and browse the resulting file. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? Thanks in adance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain information that is confidential and/or protected by law. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure to anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.idas300/dgt2s36150.htm is the syntax for the DCOLLECT. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.idas300/dgt2s36150.htm is the start of how to interpret the data. Once you have the file you can edit the dataset, exclude all lines, search for the management class name, then del x all to remove all the other lines. save the result. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:23 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Mike, I would like to try out your suggestion. When you say browse the resulting file wouldn't that have the same data i.e. -- in the MC as extracted by ISMF? Maybe I misunderstood what you said. Could you provide me with an example? From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:24:13 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION You might want to code a DCOLLECT and browse the resulting file. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? Thanks in adance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Esmie, If you enter MCDEL1 into the VALUE column in the Entry Type line, you should get the INVALID ENTRY TYPE error message on the panel. If you want to limit your listing by a particular management class, you would enter the MC name in the VALUE column for the Management Class Name line, and EQ in the Rel Op column - like so: Management Class Name . . EQ DEFAULT In any case, I experimented with requesting a list of data sets for a specific management class (and we only have one at my shop) and it appears that, for VSAM, only the cluster entry will include the MC information, for the DATA or INDEX components, the column will be blank. On the other hand, I do not have a DEFAULT management class defined, and yet when I request ISMF produce a list of data sets, as above, with MC EQ DEFAULT, I get a list of data sets. It's as though ISMF considers a null value for the MC as a match. Sounds like a bug to me HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION Greg, On page 5 for ENTRY TYPE I used the following : Entry Type . . . . . . . .EQMCDEL1MCDEL2 I was restricting my search for these 2 particular MCs. However, since it was showing -- in MC CLASS column of the report I removed these MCs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
On 08/30/2011 10:58 AM, esmie moo wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? Thanks in adance. Since SMS class data is in the catalog, I would suspect that means you need to generate your dataset list from catalog rather than from VTOC. If any dsns are migrated, you also need to specify Y for Acquire data if DFSMShsm migrated. Any displayed DATA or INDEX components of VSAM datasets will show null class values, as class values belong to the CLUSTER; so if your object is to list allocated space associated with VSAM files (which is only on DATA and INDEX) for a specific MGMTCLAS, you may not be able to do this easily with ISMF. -- Joel C. Ewing,Bentonville, AR jcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Joel, I used the from CATALOG but I still have the same problem. From: Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:44:33 PM Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION On 08/30/2011 10:58 AM, esmie moo wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? Thanks in adance. Since SMS class data is in the catalog, I would suspect that means you need to generate your dataset list from catalog rather than from VTOC. If any dsns are migrated, you also need to specify Y for Acquire data if DFSMShsm migrated. Any displayed DATA or INDEX components of VSAM datasets will show null class values, as class values belong to the CLUSTER; so if your object is to list allocated space associated with VSAM files (which is only on DATA and INDEX) for a specific MGMTCLAS, you may not be able to do this easily with ISMF. -- Joel C. Ewing, Bentonville, AR jcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
I used the from CATALOG but I still have the same problem. Are the for non vsam or vsam datasets? If Vsam, is it possible the information is only on the Cluster and not the Data/index parts? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
You might want to code a DCOLLECT and browse the resulting file. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? Thanks in adance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION
Are you limiting your list in ISMF by specifying anything on page 5 for Entry Type? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:59 AM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to compile a report of dsns which use a specific MANAGEMENT CLASS via ISMF. The fields I choose are 3 26. For some reason I does not show the MANAGEMENT CLASS in the report. It has under the MANAGEMENT CLASS NAME. I tried selecting STORAGE CLASS (27) the same thing happens. Is there something special I have to do when selecting these fields if so please advise me? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP
Thanks to all who responded. I apologise for the delay in thanking you all. --- On Sat, 9/7/11, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com wrote: From: Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Saturday, 9 July, 2011, 3:42 AM Is there a better way to browse the parms of the Construct of a STORAGE GROUP instead of using the ALTER option when in ISMF? If I type DISPLAY in the Line Operator I receive error message COMMAND DISPLAY NOT FOUND. The reason why I ask this question is that when I used the ALTER option it shows my USERID in the LAST MOD USERID LAST DATE MODIFIED which erroneous. Cancel out of the alter rather than just end. Everything but the description is displayed when you use the LIST option from the Storage Group Selection Panel. This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP
I have found that if I exit with cancel instead of end that the last mod date and user fields do not change. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Mike Wickman Technical Services Phone 913-236-1663 Cell 913-449-6423 Fax 913-236-1555 email mwick...@waddell.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP G'Day All Is there a better way to browse the parms of the Construct of a STORAGE GROUP instead of using the ALTER option when in ISMF? If I type DISPLAY in the Line Operator I receive error message COMMAND DISPLAY NOT FOUND. The reason why I ask this question is that when I used the ALTER option it shows my USERID in the LAST MOD USERID LAST DATE MODIFIED which erroneous. I would appreciate your suggestions how to go about it. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP
Is there a better way to browse the parms of the Construct of a STORAGE GROUP instead of using the ALTER option when in ISMF? If I type DISPLAY in the Line Operator I receive error message COMMAND DISPLAY NOT FOUND. The reason why I ask this question is that when I used the ALTER option it shows my USERID in the LAST MOD USERID LAST DATE MODIFIED which erroneous. Cancel out of the alter rather than just end. Everything but the description is displayed when you use the LIST option from the Storage Group Selection Panel. This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP
Sounds like normal close processing was bypassed due to using CANCEL to being used. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Wickman mwick...@waddell.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:40:09 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Reply-to: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP I have found that if I exit with cancel instead of end that the last mod date and user fields do not change. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Mike Wickman Technical Services Phone 913-236-1663 Cell 913-449-6423 Fax 913-236-1555 email mwick...@waddell.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] ISMF QUESTION - BROWSING CONSTRUCT OF A STORAGE GROUP G'Day All Is there a better way to browse the parms of the Construct of a STORAGE GROUP instead of using the ALTER option when in ISMF? If I type DISPLAY in the Line Operator I receive error message COMMAND DISPLAY NOT FOUND. The reason why I ask this question is that when I used the ALTER option it shows my USERID in the LAST MOD USERID LAST DATE MODIFIED which erroneous. I would appreciate your suggestions how to go about it. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED
This is what placing the cursor on the datasetname heading and pressing PF1 says. I think you want unfolded (however you accomplish that). An exercise left to the reader :) Alan The value in this data column represents the data set name of each data set in the list. The DATA SET NAME can be up to 44 characters long. The data column can be 27 or 44 characters long. If the list is in folded mode and the data set name is longer than 27 characters, the extra characters appear on a second line. Multi-volume data sets contain one entry in the list for each unique volume serial number on which the data set resides. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:05 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED G'day, When I generate a list of dsns - ISMF Option 1.2 for a HLQ I receive the expected list. However, I notice that all of the DATA SET NAMEs are truncated. Is there a way of having the dsns in their full name i.e. avoid truncation? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED
G'day, When I generate a list of dsns - ISMF Option 1.2 for a HLQ I receive the expected list. However, I notice that all of the DATA SET NAMEs are truncated. Is there a way of having the dsns in their full name i.e. avoid truncation? Thanks. Could you cut and paste what you are seeing. The field in ISMF as far as I know is the full dataset name. You could be seeing it wrapped or extended. Did you FOLD the panel? I either see this (with FOLD) LINEALLOC A OPERATOR DATA SET NAME SPACE U ---(1) (2) ---(3)--- - DB2..SYSCOPY.P001. 12450K XXAF.D2011051 DB2..SYSCOPY.P001. 830K XXAL.D2011051 Or this without folding Enter Line Operators below: LINE ALLOC OPERATOR DATA SET NAME SPACE ---(1) (2)- ---(3)--- DB2..SYSCOPY.P001.XXAF.D2011051 12450K DB2..SYSCOPY.P001.XXAL.D2011051 830K Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED
Alan, Thanks. It works. I noticed also when I put the cursor under List the option 3. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Field, Alan C. alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com wrote: From: Field, Alan C. alan.c.fi...@supervalu.com Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 3:11 AM This is what placing the cursor on the datasetname heading and pressing PF1 says. I think you want unfolded (however you accomplish that). An exercise left to the reader :) Alan The value in this data column represents the data set name of each data set in the list. The DATA SET NAME can be up to 44 characters long. The data column can be 27 or 44 characters long. If the list is in folded mode and the data set name is longer than 27 characters, the extra characters appear on a second line. Multi-volume data sets contain one entry in the list for each unique volume serial number on which the data set resides. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:05 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED G'day, When I generate a list of dsns - ISMF Option 1.2 for a HLQ I receive the expected list. However, I notice that all of the DATA SET NAMEs are truncated. Is there a way of having the dsns in their full name i.e. avoid truncation? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED
Lizette, This is exactly what I got. I tried the Fold option and it worked. The dsns are no longer truncated. Thanks and thank you to all who responded. --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION - DATA SET NAMES TRUNCATED To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 3:15 AM G'day, When I generate a list of dsns - ISMF Option 1.2 for a HLQ I receive the expected list. However, I notice that all of the DATA SET NAMEs are truncated. Is there a way of having the dsns in their full name i.e. avoid truncation? Thanks. Could you cut and paste what you are seeing. The field in ISMF as far as I know is the full dataset name. You could be seeing it wrapped or extended. Did you FOLD the panel? I either see this (with FOLD) LINE ALLOC A OPERATOR DATA SET NAME SPACE U ---(1) (2) ---(3)--- - DB2..SYSCOPY.P001. 12450K XXAF.D2011051 DB2..SYSCOPY.P001. 830K XXAL.D2011051 Or this without folding Enter Line Operators below: LINE ALLOC OPERATOR DATA SET NAME SPACE ---(1) (2)- ---(3)--- DB2..SYSCOPY.P001.XXAF.D2011051 12450K DB2..SYSCOPY.P001.XXAL.D2011051 830K Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/27/2007 03:19:34 AM: John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rgys.com... I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: I usually place my cursor in the field in question and hit pf1 (help). If this does not help, I turn to DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference. You should always find the default value between the two. Regards, John John, As I said, I searched all obvious (to me) places. Can you show me where you found the explanation of blank for the mentioned fields? Kees. Kees, The DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference (SC26-7402-05 for my current level 1.7) lists the possible values for each field within the construct, meaning of those values and indicates the default. I don't have a URL that I can point you to but maybe you can find the manual somewhere on IBM's website. I use a local bookmanager setup to access the documentation. I have never had to go to another product documentation such as DFSMShsm which is what the management class really pertains. Regards, John John, I read these chapters before, but after reading them again, I think I see what is meant: blank causes an internal default te be used, which is documented here. So, if I don't specify primary days non usage, the fields in the panels are left blank, but internally a value of 2 is substituted. Since no value is shown on the panels, I can't see there what will happen to the dataset, nor will the online help tell me and the text in sc26-7402 was not clear to me either when I searched it then. That caused the confusion. Thanks, Kees. Kees, When the days since last use meet or exceed the primary days non usage value (default or otherwise) the dataset becomes eligible for migrating from primary to ML1. There are attributes on the storage group which can prevent any migration on the volume (Auto Migrate = N) or space utilization on the volume is below the low threshold or you could have hsm processing limited to a certain system/group (Migrate Sys/Sys Group Name) which is not active or takes too long to get around to the volume where the eligible dataset resides. I think the documentation is worded that way because it is not guaranteed that an aged dataset will migrate to ML1 or ML2 as soon as the number of days criteria is met. Regards, John p.s. I apologize for the fat fingers that sent the previous response well before its time. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/27/2007 03:19:34 AM: John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rgys.com... I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: I usually place my cursor in the field in question and hit pf1 (help). If this does not help, I turn to DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference. You should always find the default value between the two. Regards, John John, As I said, I searched all obvious (to me) places. Can you show me where you found the explanation of blank for the mentioned fields? Kees. Kees, The DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference (SC26-7402-05 for my current level 1.7) lists the possible values for each field within the construct, meaning of those values and indicates the default. I don't have a URL that I can point you to but maybe you can find the manual somewhere on IBM's website. I use a local bookmanager setup to access the documentation. I have never had to go to another product documentation such as DFSMShsm which is what the management class really pertains. Regards, John John, I read these chapters before, but after reading them again, I think I see what is meant: blank causes an internal default te be used, which is documented here. So, if I don't specify primary days non usage, the fields in the panels are left blank, but internally a value of 2 is substituted. Since no value is shown on the panels, I can't see there what will happen to the dataset, nor will the online help tell me and the text in sc26-7402 was not clear to me either when I searched it then. That caused the confusion. Thanks, Kees. Kees, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rgys.com... I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: I usually place my cursor in the field in question and hit pf1 (help). If this does not help, I turn to DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference. You should always find the default value between the two. Regards, John John, As I said, I searched all obvious (to me) places. Can you show me where you found the explanation of blank for the mentioned fields? Kees. Kees, The DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference (SC26-7402-05 for my current level 1.7) lists the possible values for each field within the construct, meaning of those values and indicates the default. I don't have a URL that I can point you to but maybe you can find the manual somewhere on IBM's website. I use a local bookmanager setup to access the documentation. I have never had to go to another product documentation such as DFSMShsm which is what the management class really pertains. Regards, John John, I read these chapters before, but after reading them again, I think I see what is meant: blank causes an internal default te be used, which is documented here. So, if I don't specify primary days non usage, the fields in the panels are left blank, but internally a value of 2 is substituted. Since no value is shown on the panels, I can't see there what will happen to the dataset, nor will the online help tell me and the text in sc26-7402 was not clear to me either when I searched it then. That caused the confusion. Thanks, Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
Kees, I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: I usually place my cursor in the field in question and hit pf1 (help). If this does not help, I turn to DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference. You should always find the default value between the two. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rgys.com... Kees, I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: I usually place my cursor in the field in question and hit pf1 (help). If this does not help, I turn to DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference. You should always find the default value between the two. Regards, John John, As I said, I searched all obvious (to me) places. Can you show me where you found the explanation of blank for the mentioned fields? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: I usually place my cursor in the field in question and hit pf1 (help). If this does not help, I turn to DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference. You should always find the default value between the two. Regards, John John, As I said, I searched all obvious (to me) places. Can you show me where you found the explanation of blank for the mentioned fields? Kees. Kees, The DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference (SC26-7402-05 for my current level 1.7) lists the possible values for each field within the construct, meaning of those values and indicates the default. I don't have a URL that I can point you to but maybe you can find the manual somewhere on IBM's website. I use a local bookmanager setup to access the documentation. I have never had to go to another product documentation such as DFSMShsm which is what the management class really pertains. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF question
Neil Duffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 2007-11-22 05:09, concerning ISMF Question, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (to IBM-Main): I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: [snip] Kees: I've found that the Panel help is field sensitive ie. cursor-locate (tab) to the field in question then PF-1 for help. You'll get the information the Data Column Descriptions help panels for that specific field. There'll usually be discussion in the Help about default/blank values. ps. z/OS v1.7 here if that makes a difference tho' I *think* it functioned that way with v1.4 as well. Neil, as I said, I searched the obvious places, including online help, but could not find an explanation about the blank values. We have 1.6 and 1.8 here, but there is no difference. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF question
At 2007-11-22 05:09, concerning ISMF Question, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (to IBM-Main): I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: [snip] Kees: I've found that the Panel help is field sensitive ie. cursor-locate (tab) to the field in question then PF-1 for help. You'll get the information the Data Column Descriptions help panels for that specific field. There'll usually be discussion in the Help about default/blank values. ps. z/OS v1.7 here if that makes a difference tho' I *think* it functioned that way with v1.4 as well. -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How *do* you plan for something like that? Guardian Bob, Reboot For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent John Norgauer 2004 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
Kees, If you play around with this you could discover that a blank entry can only be used in a very specific configuration. And I always do recommend anyone with a question first start by playing with a construct (not the production ones of course) and see what it does. For example if you have COMMAND or BOTH specified for the Command or Auto Migrate field, then you cannot use blank for Primary Days Non-usage or Level 1 Days Non-usage Same would be true if you specified Admin or User command Backup Auto Backup . . . . . . . . . And then tried to use blank in the proceeding fields. I think it would have been helpful if IBM had documented that in the Help Panels, rather than a user needing to try to use blank and then get an error message. I always did believe in more robust documentation in the help panels for ISMF but IBM has not quite gotten around to that yet. Conclusion, the blank entry is used in a very specific construct, one that has very little control over it. You are not specifying any details to ISMF. So it does nothing. There are no actions to take for a data set with that type of construct for the management class. So, no migrate, no automigrate, no backup, no gdg backups kept, etc. This may allow the STORCLAS to control the file but the MGMTCLAS will not do anything, from what I can remember. Perhaps someone else will have a better explanation. Lizette Hello list, I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: Primary Days Non-usage . . . . (0 to or blank) Level 1 Days Non-usage . . . . (0 to , NOLIMIT or blank) Backup Frequency . . . . . . . . (0 to or blank) Number of Backup Vers . . . . . .(1 to 100 or blank) Number of Backup Vers . . . . . .(0 to 100 or blank) (Data Set Deleted) Retain days only Backup Ver . . . (1 to , NOLIMIT or blank) (Data Set Deleted) Retain days extra Backup Vers . . (1 to , NOLIMIT or blank) And many more. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF Question
Kees, This is probably not what you need, but I just created a mgmtclass, and went back in to list it, and saw all the values that it selected on my behalf. Herbie LINE MGMTCLAS AUTOLAST MOD LAST DATE LAST TIME CREATION OPERATOR NAME BACKUP USERIDMODIFIEDMODIFIED YEARS ---(1) --(2)--- -(18)- --(19)-- ---(20)--- --(21)--- --(22)-- CLASSA YES x02006/11/28 15:45 CLASS1 YES x02006/11/23 10:28 CLASS2 YES x02006/11/23 10:29 CLASS3 YES x02006/11/23 10:30 CLASS4 YES x02006/11/23 10:31 CLASS5 YES x02006/11/23 10:32 CLASS6 YES x02006/11/23 10:33 CLASS7 YES x02006/11/23 10:33 CLASS8 YES x02006/11/23 10:34 CLASS9 YES x02006/11/23 10:35 DEFAULT YES x02006/11/23 11:29 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: 22 November 2007 10:09 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ISMF Question Hello list, I have an (awfully) basic question about ISMF: when defining SMS constructs (e.g. mgntclas) I can enter numbers of a blank. I cannot find anywhere what the meaning of the blank value is. Where can I find what the system does, when I leave blank fields like: Primary Days Non-usage . . . . (0 to or blank) Level 1 Days Non-usage . . . . (0 to , NOLIMIT or blank) Backup Frequency . . . . . . . . (0 to or blank) Number of Backup Vers . . . . . .(1 to 100 or blank) Number of Backup Vers . . . . . .(0 to 100 or blank) (Data Set Deleted) Retain days only Backup Ver . . . (1 to , NOLIMIT or blank) (Data Set Deleted) Retain days extra Backup Vers . . (1 to , NOLIMIT or blank) And many more. Thanks, Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
