Re: [ilugd] Multiple installable distributions on a USB

2012-12-10 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 10 Dec 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 On 12/10/2012 12:29 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  The subject more or less says it all :)
 
 I use grub2 for booting off of a USB/SD-Card and the following are a
 few of the relevant entries what I have in /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Thanks, that's helpful, but still a tad too much work.  I've found 
enough Winduhs tools for doing this, am surprised there's nothing 
equivalent for Linux.

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Re: [ilugd] Multiple installable distributions on a USB

2012-12-10 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 On 12/10/2012 09:15 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  On Monday 10 Dec 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
  On 12/10/2012 12:29 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  The subject more or less says it all :)
  
  I use grub2 for booting off of a USB/SD-Card and the following are
  a few of the relevant entries what I have in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
  
  Thanks, that's helpful, but still a tad too much work.  I've found
  enough Winduhs tools for doing this, am surprised there's nothing
  equivalent for Linux.
 
 [bsd@mon ~]$ aptitude show grub-rescue-pc
 Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

Nono, I meant stuff like on:

http://www.pendriveapps.com/software/live-usb/ .  Yumi, for instance, is 
almost exact;y what I need apart from the platform it runs on, as is 
MultiBoot.

*Sigh* back to the drawing board.

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[ilugd] Multiple installable distributions on a USB

2012-12-09 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
The subject more or less says it all :)

I want to be able to take a, say, 16GB USB pendrive and put multiple 
distribution install ISOs onto it.  Is there a utility that will do 
this, create a nice boot menu that allows you to select the distribution 
of your choice, and then run the installer of that distribution?

Ideally it would also let you load live images, so you can have ready-
made forensics, recovery, etc. tools available on the same USB.

unetbootin and similar tools are installers, nowhere near what I need.

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Seriously talented dev-ops engineer to run the whole stack

2012-11-07 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 07 Nov 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 [snip]
 Please do check:
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.yate/6082
 
 It is not a fork of Asterisk like the OpenPBX.org which eventually
 turned into FreeSWICH; whereas the FreeSWITCH again is a completely
 re-written alternative.
 
 I do not intend to initiate a war; but am talking about FLOSS
 (Free/Libre Open Source) alternatives; forget to mention the
 FreeSWITCH in my earlier post, indeed.
 
 IMHO, All these, the Asterisk, the FreeSWITCH and the Yate fulfill
 difference design goals, but almost same functionality while one of
 these might be more suitable for a particular scenario and, or
 environment.

I deploy Asterisk for the same reason that I still use Sendmail as the 
MTA for those clients who need large mailers:

- It's been around for donkey's years -- the technology is tried and 
tested

- Flaws are (mostly) known and workarounds public

- Huge developer community

- Availability of III-party extensions to do almost anything you need 
from the system

- Vibrant and responsive community so problem-solving, patches, etc. are 
easily available

Sure, there are better (subjectively speaking) alternatives around, but 
then, If It Ain't Broken, Don't Fix It.  Sendmail's been working for me 
for over 20 years, Asterisk for nearly 10, so I happily stand in the Way 
of Progress and continue using antediluvian packages.  Also, the desire 
to use something just because it's new and shiny just isn't there 
anymore... hey, my desktop is Debian!

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Re: [ilugd] Database Management My Sql

2012-11-07 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 07 Nov 2012, Raakesh kumar wrote:
 Dear All,
 I am working on a project which is live for some gaming purpose. My
 problem is, one of my table size has gone beyond my imagination and
 it records nearly 1 lack per day which is making database searching
 very slow. We have allocated a separate server for database.
 Can anyone suggest me how to get rid of this. One simple solution
 that comes into my mind is to use hadoop but any experienced help on
 this?

If it's an option, switch to an RDBMS that was designed for enterprise-
class deployment from day 1, i.e. an RDBMS that doesn't have My in the 
name.

Yeah, I know this is going to start another flame war but WTH, Delhi's 
getting colder by the day.  I'm planning to install a few old computers 
around slum clusters, at least the heat generated on the list will keep 
them warm at nights!

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[ilugd] Nominate your free software heroes

2012-10-31 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/nominate%2dyour%2dfree%2dsoftware%2dheroes

The nomination window for the 15th annual Free Software Awards is open. 
Now is your chance to show some love for your favorite free software 
hero or an inspiring project that uses free software or free software 
principles to benefit humanity.

Don't delay, nominations are due on November 15th. To nominate an 
individual for the Award for the Advancement of Free Software or a 
project for the Award for Projects of Social Benefit, send your 
nomination along with a description of the project or individual to 
award-nominati...@gnu.org.

The free software movement is powered by dedicated individuals and has 
fostered many incredible projects that are making a difference in the 
world with the help of free software tools and principles. You can read 
more about the awards and past winners in our official announcement.

What are you waiting for; take a few minutes to give props to people and 
projects that inspire you. Your nominations will be reviewed by our 
awards committee and the winners will be announced at LibrePlanet 2013.
Award for the Advancement of Free Software

The Free Software Foundation Award for the Advancement of Free Software 
is presented annually by FSF president Richard Stallman to an individual 
who has made a great contribution to the progress and development of 
free software, through activities that accord with the spirit of free 
software.

Award for Projects of Social Benefit

Nominations are also open for the 2012 Award for Projects of Social 
Benefit.

This award is presented to the project or team responsible for applying 
free software, or the ideas of the free software movement, in a project 
that intentionally and significantly benefits society in other aspects 
of life.

We look to recognize projects or teams that encourage collaboration to 
accomplish social tasks. A long-term commitment to one's project (or the 
potential for a long-term commitment) is crucial to this end.

This award stresses the use of free software in the service of humanity. 
We have deliberately chosen this broad criterion so that many different 
areas of activity can be considered. However, one area that is not 
included is that of free software itself. Projects with a primary goal 
of promoting or advancing free software are not eligible for this award 
(we honor those projects with our annual Award for the Advancement of 
Free Software).

We will consider any project or team that uses free software or its 
philosophy to address a goal important to society. To qualify, a project 
must use free software, produce free documentation, or use the idea of 
free software as defined in the Free Software Definition. Work done 
commercially is eligible, but we will give this award to the project or 
team that best utilizes resources for society's greater benefit.

Nomination Requirements

In the case of both awards, previous winners are not eligible for 
nomination, but renomination of other previous nominees is encouraged. 
Only individuals are eligible for nomination for the Advancement of Free 
Software Award, and only projects can be nominated for the Social 
Benefit Award.

Award recipients will be chosen by a committee of previous winners and 
FSF president Richard Stallman.

Please send your nominations to award-nominati...@gnu.org, on or before 
Thursday, November 15th, 2012. Please submit nominations in the 
following format:

In the email message subject line, either put the name of the person you 
are nominating for the Award for Advancement of Free Software, or put 
the name of the project for the Award for Projects of Social Benefit.

Please include, in the body of your message, an explanation (40 lines or 
less) of the work done and why you think it is especially important to 
the advancement of free software or how it benefits society, 
respectively.

Please state, in the body of your message, where to find the materials 
(e.g., software, manuals, or writing) which your nomination is based on.

Information about the previous awards can be found at 
http://www.fsf.org/awards. Winners will be announced at an awards 
ceremony at the LibrePlanet conference tentatively scheduled for March 
2013, in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Re: [ilugd] Private IP in Public Network

2012-10-09 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 09 Oct 2012, Nirmalya Lahiri wrote:
 Hi everyone,
  today I have discover a critical network infrastructure which is
 almost impossible. I believe very few people have seen this before.
 
  The story is  in my office we have leased internet connection
 with static IP from TATA Communication Ltd. In my local network I
 have configured network ip (192.168.7.0). So all the PC in my local
 network has the IP of the range 192.168.7.1 to 192.168.7.253.
 
  For a experimental purpose yesterday I have ping to 192.168.2.10...
 It should not return reply. But unfortunately I got reply from a
 host. After investigation I have found that the host is outside of
 my local network. Please look into the tracepath report from my
 local PC to that unknown host.
 
 nirmalya@nirmalya-desktop:~$ tracepath  192.168.2.10
  1:  nirmalya-desktop.local (192.168.7.103) 0.141ms
 pmtu 1500 1:  192.168.7.51 (192.168.7.51)  
  0.706ms 1:  192.168.7.51 (192.168.7.51)  
  0.700ms 2:  115.115.147.137 (115.115.147.137)  
  150.228ms 3:  121.240.2.54 (121.240.2.54)
  188.099ms asymm  6 4:  121.240.2.57 (121.240.2.57)
  175.322ms asymm  6 5:  172.25.81.133 (172.25.81.133)  
  176.625ms asymm  6 6:  172.29.253.34
 (172.29.253.34)208.708ms asymm  8 7:
  172.31.16.193 (172.31.16.193)186.462ms
 asymm  8 8:  172.31.35.138 (172.31.35.138)  
  206.554ms asymm 10 9:  172.31.8.134 (172.31.8.134)
  226.454ms asymm 10 10:  172.25.82.62 (172.25.82.62)
  206.389ms asymm  9 11:  192.168.2.10 (192.168.2.10)
  217.967ms reached Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 11
 back 247
 
 
 In this report 192.168.7.103 is my personal PC, 192.168.7.51 is
 internal IP of router, 115.115.147.137 is gateway IP of our leased
 internet connection.

Have seen this issue with other providers also.  They use RCF1918 IPs in 
their internal network infrastructure.  However, they don't protect that 
infrastructure adequately from external access.

Not really an issue, unless the service provider believes that internal 
IPs are making that portion of the infrastructure secure, and become 
lax.  Or if they start advertising those IPs on the 'net!

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Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2012-09-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 28 Sep 2012, LukramDebendro Singh via LinkedIn wrote:
 LukramDebendro Singh requested to add you as a connection on
 LinkedIn:

Added:
http://wiki.linux%2ddelhi.org/cgi%2dbin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData

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Re: [ilugd] ExpEyes experiment design contest for students

2012-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 27 Sep 2012, Pramode C.E wrote:
 Please check out:
 
 http://recursive-labs.com/contest/expeyes/
 
 This is a good opportunity for students to contribute to an
 innovative open hardware (and Free Software based) project from
 India!

You know, this sounds like a really cool initiative.  I don't remember 
anything about physics, but the samples shown on the web look 
interesting.  I wouldn't mind owning one of those things.  As long as I 
didn't have to lug the laptop around from one part of the house to the 
other measuring voltages and currents, of course :)

I was only able to find one (non-definitive) link on the 'net about its 
hardware licence, though -- any place that is documented?

All the best with the contest, and do give us the highlights once it's 
completed.

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Re: [ilugd] A Gnome Text Editor Joke

2012-09-19 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 19 Sep 2012, Anupam Jain wrote:
 Gedit?

Remind me to murder you the next time we meet.  Must... stop... these... 
atrocities...

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Re: [ilugd] A Gnome Text Editor Joke

2012-09-19 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 19 Sep 2012, Anupam Jain wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
 
 r...@linux-delhi.org wrote:
  On Wednesday 19 Sep 2012, Anupam Jain wrote:
  Gedit?
  
  Remind me to murder you the next time we meet.  Must... stop...
  these... atrocities...
 
 Really? I thought the joke was notepad at all.. Awk-ward...
 
 Seriously though, I kate your point. Vi are above these childish
 puns. Trust me if you are annoyed, emacs two of us.
 
 Enough sed.

Isn't there something in the Geneva Convention that protects innocent 
people from this form of mass comedicide?  Writing to the UN Humour 
Rights Commission to investigate this case and requesting immediate 
action in bringing the guilty to book.

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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days

2012-09-01 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 01 Sep 2012, Arun Khan wrote:
 Please help with understanding this report.
 
 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:10 AM,  nkap...@webrachna.com wrote:
  Fri 31-Aug-2012: ILUG-D activity in last 7 days:
  =
  New/recent events: 0   Total events: 83
  =
 
 Where on the Web site / Wiki / or the mailing list?
 
  New Discussion forum postings: 0   Total postings: 1143
  =
 
 Is this stat for the mailing list?  If so, there are posting made
 within the last 7 days but this reports says 0.

This is for the web site http://lilnux-delhi.org/ , which is more or 
less defunct now.

If anyone has ideas and the energy to restore it, please speak up.

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[ilugd] Xen/VirtualBox/Intel IOMMU HOWTO

2012-08-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

Treated myself to some new hardware as advance Eid/Diwali/Christmas/New 
Year gift, and was trying to install Xen and get virtual machines 
running on that.  The path was long and arduous, and is still not 
complete, but some of my experiences on the way are documented in:

http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi%2dbin/twiki/view/Main/DebianXenMigrateVirtualBox

Covered are:

- Basic Xen setup
- Compiling and installing a custom kernel for the i915 GPU Hung issue
- Extracting a disk image from a VirtualBox VDI
- Creating and running a Xen DomU with the image

It's mostly technical and expects the reader to have decent Linux 
sysadmin and basic Xen knowledge.

Feedback, bouquets and brickbats (in moderation :) appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Xen/VirtualBox/Intel IOMMU HOWTO

2012-08-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 20 Aug 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 On 08/20/2012 01:37 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  Treated myself to some new hardware as advance
  Eid/Diwali/Christmas/New Year gift, and was trying to install Xen
  and get virtual machines running on that.  The path was long and
  arduous, and is still not complete, but some of my experiences on
  the way are documented in:
  
  http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi%2dbin/twiki/view/Main/DebianXenMigrat
  eVirtualBox
  
  Covered are:
  
  - Basic Xen setup
  - Compiling and installing a custom kernel for the i915 GPU Hung
  issue - Extracting a disk image from a VirtualBox VDI
  - Creating and running a Xen DomU with the image
  
  It's mostly technical and expects the reader to have decent Linux
  sysadmin and basic Xen knowledge.
  
  Feedback, bouquets and brickbats (in moderation :) appreciated.
 
 You had already been a good howto/document writer and this one is yet
 another milestone on your journey towards the leadership.

I'm blushing!

 I may be wrong, but I think:
 
  1. We must edit the /etc/fstab in VM image before we boot into it,
 the kernel and, or initrd scripts won't be able to find the root
 partition.

You're partially correct: the kernel (which is in the Dom0) is passed 
the root= parameter by Xen, so the correct disk gets mounted as root.  
Other -- non-root -- partitions, like you said, won't get mounted.  If 
you can manage with just root mounted, then the HOWTO is fine.  If not 
(e.g. /usr along with /usr/bin/vi is on a different partition) then, as 
you said, you need to change fstab before trying to boot the system.

 2. It's better we either use UUIDs or LABELs in the
 /etc/fstab; applicable to all installations/distos.

You're right, UUIDs are much better than explicit partition names.  It's 
just... I hate them, because I like to know which partitions are mounted 
where by looking at mount(8) output, and UUIDs really get in the way.  
Purely a personal thing, and not a recommendation for anyone else!

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Re: [ilugd] Xen/VirtualBox/Intel IOMMU HOWTO

2012-08-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 20 Aug 2012, Vikas Rawal wrote:
  Covered are:
  
  - Basic Xen setup
  - Compiling and installing a custom kernel for the i915 GPU Hung
  issue - Extracting a disk image from a VirtualBox VDI
  - Creating and running a Xen DomU with the image
 
 Very well explained. Thanks.
 
 I was wondering if you would recommend a desktop user of VirtualBox
 to migrate to Xen instead? VirtualBox does take a lot of resources
 (in particular, RAM). Do you think Xen would be a better choice?

If you're happy with the way VirtualBox is managing your VM(s), why 
switch?  Xen isn't exactly the easiest of technologies to get right.  On 
the other hand, if you're willing to put in the effort, I believe Xen is 
worth it.

I haven't done any benchmarks, but subjectively speaking Xen seems much, 
much faster than VirtualBox.  Much cleaner too -- once the hypervisor 
starts, there're no user-level processes hanging around for 
vistualisation assistance.  Each machine is independent, stand-alone and 
can be individually managed.

I guess it finally boils down to whether you're a GUI or command-line 
fan.  I happen to be the latter, so the Xen paradigm suits me better.  
Performance-wise, both claim to give near-bare-metal performance.

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu sudo command problem

2012-08-10 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 10 Aug 2012, Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
 Raju Mathur said on Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:02:00AM +0530,:
   2. Boot into root.  I won't tell you how, there are enough
   pointers on
 
 Will moving #5 above this help?

Sure, my principles are for sale, but only if the bid amount is 
appropriate!  Trivial compensations like half your kingdom and your 
daughter's hand in marriage won't do the trick for this one.

 Would rephrase as get into rescue mode, and (re)mount / with rw
 permissions. That is, assuming Ubuntu boot loader has a rescue
 option, which I believe it ought to have.

Do machines install with rescue by default?  I'd have thought you need 
some install CD -- most distributions' install CDs seem to have a rescue 
mode option.

Booting into root is faster if you know what you're doing.  If you 
don't, rescue sounds like a better option.

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu sudo command problem

2012-08-10 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 11 Aug 2012, Raakesh kumar wrote:
 I have reinstalled ubuntu again as going in recovery mode and doing
 those changes didn't work for me.
 @Balwinder Sir, I know i had made a mistake by doing so. But i was
 just doing a kind of experiment but without properly surfing about
 that...
 
 Okay.. just to ask, Can you please tell me what actually happened to
 my system when i changed the permission of /etc directory? Why my
 system done into an inconsistent state? While as much theory i have
 read during my engineering about OSs, i hadn't done anything
 special/severe in that..

There are files and directories in /etc that need specific permissions.  
Hell, there are files and directories everywhere that need those 
permissions.  Off the top of my head, a few /etc-related permissions:

Sub-directories: 0755 or similar.  If you don't have those on (e.g.) 
pam.d, apache2, your servers won't work -- the files inside those 
directories will not be accessible.

Files: passwd needs at least 444, because it has to be world readable.  
shadow needs to be 600 or similar, because it /shouldn't/ be world-
readable; however, I don't know if any app enforces /etc/shadow 
permissions.

Scripts and executables: At the very least, scripts in /etc/init.d need 
to be 755 or equivalent.  If they aren't, your system will probably die 
a horrible death when trying to boot.

Special files like the one you found: sudo will fail if sudoers is world 
readable, because it's paranoid about security.

So you can have two types of problems related to file permissions:

1. Truncated permissions on the file (directory), because of which the 
system is unable to use the file for its intended purpose.

2. Extra permissions on a file, because of which an application that 
uses the file determines that it is insecure and refuses to use it.

You saw the effect of the latter; if you'd continued you'd probably have 
seen the effects of the former too.

/me shakes his head... Nautilus se sara /etc ka permission change kar 
diya... what will these kids think of next?

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu sudo command problem

2012-08-09 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 10 Aug 2012, Raakesh kumar wrote:
 Today i changed the permission of my /etc directory and it's sub
 directories and files using  sudo nautilus. And now my everything
 including servers and all have stopped working. When i type sudo
 anywhere to use it shows an error as -
 
 sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0446, should be 0440
 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
 sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
 
 Can somebody help me to get my system back as it was earlier.. Or is
 there any way to restore my system back?

1. Get a list of permissions of critical files in /etc/ from the 'net, a 
friend's machine, wherever.

2. Boot into root.  I won't tell you how, there are enough pointers on 
the 'net.

3. Apply the correct permissions to your own /etc files.

4. Reboot.

5. Pay me.

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Re: [ilugd] Qmail Help

2012-08-01 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 01 Aug 2012, Vijay Thakur wrote:
 Hello All Friends,
 
 I have configure Qmail server by following the steps from :
 http://www.qmailtoaster.com in my Centos 5.6 Server.
 All is working fine in LAN as per the given steps at Qmail Toaster.
 Now I want to access my mail server globally like all other
 E-mail Services e.g. Yahoo, Gmail etc. I have a registered domain.
 
 Kindly guide that what things need to change in the server to access
 it in a fancy way like mail.abc.com (webmail) or globally in
 outlook,thunderbird, evolution etc..

Install a POP3/IMAP server on your mail server.  Ensure it is accessible 
from the 'net.  Install a webmail package somewhere and point it to your 
IMAP server.

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Re: [ilugd] Network install disk image

2012-07-23 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 23 Jul 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 On 07/23/2012 10:22 AM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  Can you suggest a utility or web page instructions for installing a
  pre- built Linux disk image over the network?
  
  We have a bare machine with PXE and a server with a Linux disk
  image. Need the flow to get this image onto the bare machine's
  disk.
 
 Please read
 http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/FreeBSD/tftpboot/README.txt, though
 you may find it a little bit FreeBSD specific, but the logic is same
 for Linux ISO images.
 
 I also keep mounted Debian-Live, GRML, LinuxMint and Ubuntu ISO
 images:

Thanks Balwinder (incidentally, do your initials drive you to affinity 
with a particular flavour of Unix? :)

I'm looking more at an installable image, for which there have been 
numerous suggestions, both on- and off-list.  Also now waiting for 
Ashish'  tour-de-force.

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Re: [ilugd] Reliance Data Card on Centos 6‏

2012-07-23 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 24 Jul 2012, dhyanendra chauhan wrote:
 Please find the help guide of   Reliance Data Card on Centos 6‏
 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/zte-ac2627-usb
 -modem-not-working-in-fedora-9-a-795499/ yum install tcl

Looks good.  However, one small issue:

 Baud=115200

That will just kill whatever speed you could get from the modem.  I 
typically set baud to 3686400 or higher.  Even the old Reliance ZTE 
dongle I'm using handles that.

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[ilugd] Network install disk image

2012-07-22 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

Can you suggest a utility or web page instructions for installing a pre-
built Linux disk image over the network?

We have a bare machine with PXE and a server with a Linux disk image.  
Need the flow to get this image onto the bare machine's disk.

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Re: [ilugd] Network install disk image

2012-07-22 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 23 Jul 2012, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:22:43 +0530, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) raju@linux-
delhi.org said:
  Can you suggest a utility or web page instructions for installing a
  pre- built Linux disk image over the network?
  
  We have a bare machine with PXE and a server with a Linux disk
  image. Need the flow to get this image onto the bare machine's
  disk.
 
 I don't know of anything already available with such functionality
 but it would be cool to build one:
 
 1. On PXE server side, setup a webserver with images
 
 2. Compile a kernel (with all drivers for your target hardware) + an
 initrd with /sbin/init which sets up network, fdisk/mkfs's the
 filesystem, wget -O - http:///image.tar.xz|xzcat |tar xv
 everything as per kernel parameters. Or if you're using 'disk
 images', then wget -O - |xzcat|dd if=/dev/stdin
 of=/dev/$device.

You also need to resize partitions to the target sizes after copying the 
image.

 3. Create per client pxelinux.cfg configuration (in case client's
 settings differ from defaults), with something like:
 
linux /vmlinuz
append initrd=/initrd.gz network=eth0;static;172.16.0.3/27
 img=gentoo-x64 drive=sda
 
 It would be really cool to build something like that yourself :).

Thanks to both you and Saurabh for the suggestions.

And now I'm invoking the ILUGD torture clause: if you suggest something 
in public, you are automagically volunteered to do it!  So when can we 
expect a first-cut implementation for testing, Ashish? :)

In the meantime I found these, which may be useful starting points.  
SystemImager in particular seems well-suited:

http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar
http://wiul.org/
http://kaboot.ainkaboot.co.uk/
http://wiki.systemimager.org/

Any more out there?

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Development lead needed

2012-07-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Forwarded message.  Please contact Suman directly if you're interested.

-- Raj

From: Suman Saraf sumansa...@gmail.com
  To: Raju Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org
  Date: 2012-07-20 2:26 PM

Some of my friends have incorporated a software company which focuses on 
software for Energy Trading, Energy Scheduling, Power Exchanges etc. 
This is funded by their already established energy trading business. 
They are looking for a technical head for this venture.

The person needs to be a hands on developer (young- ideally about 5-7 
years of experience) with proficiency in Linux, Perl or Python, MySQL 
and network programming. Experience in building complex real world 
systems is desirable. He will also be required to mentor and lead a team 
of 4-5 people. Most importantly, he needs to be able to build things 
from scratch and not just tinker with already existing code. 

They promise good compensation, significant equity and complete freedom.

Location: New Delhi.

If you know someone who might be interested, please ask him to contact 
me at sumansa...@gmail.com

I personally feel this is an excellent opportunity with immense growth 
potential. People looking for a 9-5 job, please excuse!

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[ilugd] The 31 Flavors of Fun Experiment

2012-07-12 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
The 31 Flavors of Fun Experiment

http://webpath.net/31-flavors

Summary:
Todd Robinson, completely un-assisted, will to attempt to create, and 
release, a complete desktop operating system each and every day for the 
period of 31 days, to demonstrate the huge advantages of using open 
source (shared knowledge) solutions in real-world situations.  This 
experiment will compare development speed, costs, and required manpower 
to the proprietary Microsoft® Windows® development of recent Windows 
releases.  It is not intended to compare features, discuss 
virual/malware issues, or anything outside of actual development aspects 
when comparing.

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[ilugd] History

2012-06-12 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Was rummaging around my hard disk today and happened to find these pics 
of a meet-up in Dilli Haat in November 2006.  Enjoy!

http://images.kandalaya.org/gallery2/v/raju/ilugd-20061117/

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Anyone here looking for an ecommerce / web expert for a contract position

2012-05-31 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 31 May 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 On 05/31/2012 10:43 AM, abhishek jain wrote:
  PS: I believe posting this with commercial tag is allowed here, If
  not, suggestions welcome, Also please suggest me more ways /
  locations i can post on for this.
 
 Better register as a freelancer at guru.com and, or freelancer.com
 services and create blog or web-site to share you ideas and, or
 expertise; many offer these things for free. I'm sure you'll also get
 an international exposure.
 
 OTOH, IMHO, seeking and, or asking for job work in the F/OSS mailing
 lists can ruin your repute since you're just creating a noise here;
 that's but just an opinion and opinions may differ.

Oh, I don't know about that -- this list (at least) explicitly permits 
posting job offers and requests and other FOSS-related commercial 
notices as long as you stick to the rules and add the [COMMERCIAL] tag 
in the subject.

FOSS != Non-commercial

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Re: [ilugd] [Sort-of-OT] List Windows installed software

2012-05-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 28 May 2012, Ravi Kumar wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ashish SHUKLA ashish...@lostca.se 
wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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  Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) writes:
   On Sunday 27 May 2012, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
   Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) writes:
I need to pull out data from some Windows desktops to put into
an asset management system.  I can install NSClient++ or
equivalent on the Windows machines -- NSClient++ preferred,
since then I can use the same for monitoring the boxes with
OpenNMS too.

Is there some easy way to get NSClient++ to list installed
software packages and their versions over the network?  If
not, is there some other tool that will allow that
information to be pulled out remotely?
 
 If you want to use Python on windows, it may be easy task. I used
 Python, pyWin - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/ and WMI
 package for Python (http://timgolden.me.uk/python/wmi/index.html) ,
 and then I was able to get list of all software, shares etc in
 current system.
 Either you can develop on HTTP server to get list of software from
 remote machine, or you can also connect to Remote Machines WMI using
 PyWMI package and pyWin32.

Turns out there's a package meant specifically for this requirement: 
FusionInventory:

http://fusioninventory.org/wordpress/

One of the things it pulls out is softwares and versions.

Thanks for all the help.

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Re: [ilugd] Configuring sendmail in VPS Server

2012-05-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 28 May 2012, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote:
 The errors are not shown now as I uploaded hostname to fully
 qualified hostname .
 I am curious , is there any way to allow web applications to send the
 mails faster as the time it takes to send the email is about 6- 8
 seconds .

Is it just the web application taking longer or command-line too?  In 
either case, you need to look at the logs to see precisely where the 
delay is.  You can also set OLogLevel=127 in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, 
restart sendmail and then try sending a mail for more logging.

Worst case scenario, make your application send mail asynchronously.  
Depending on language and package, you could use a new thread, a new 
process or perhaps just a flag to the mail library.

Sendmail delays are typically due to DNS or bad configuration issues.  
If you are willing to pay me a trifling fee, I'd be glad to offer myself 
as a consultant for fixing this problem.  Typical trifling fees are half 
your kingdom and your daughter's hand in marriage.

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Re: [ilugd] Configuring sendmail in VPS Server

2012-05-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 28 May 2012, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 On 28 May 2012 22:48, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org 
wrote:
  On Monday 28 May 2012, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote:
  The errors are not shown now as I uploaded hostname to fully
  qualified hostname .
  I am curious , is there any way to allow web applications to send
  the mails faster as the time it takes to send the email is about
  6- 8 seconds .
  
  Is it just the web application taking longer or command-line too?
   In either case, you need to look at the logs to see precisely
  where the delay is.  You can also set OLogLevel=127 in
  /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, restart sendmail and then try sending a
  mail for more logging.
 
 Pfft! The way most people code, 6-8 seconds is nothing
 for a web front-end. Gaurang, what are page-load times,
 and response times to the presumable POST from the
 front-end? You can measure with a Firefox plugin, YSlow,
 if you are not already aware of this.

Nah, badly-configured or slow mail servers can create appreciable delays 
for users.  I've seen (and coded too) pages that send mail, where 
pressing Submit makes the browser hang without activity for 5+ seconds 
before it starts loading the next page.  Nothing to do but fix the mail 
server usually.

Of course, one easy way out is to display a JS message and/or a spinning 
cursor while the mail is being sent.  Users object less to being asked 
to wait -- it's unexpected delays that make them soggy and hard to 
light.

 
  Worst case scenario, make your application send mail
  asynchronously. Depending on language and package, you could use a
  new thread, a new process or perhaps just a flag to the mail
  library.
 
 Should normally not be needed, as all the webapp has
 to do is to hand off to sendmail/postfix. However, this
 might be a problem if the webapp is sending
 shudderHTML mail/shudder, and is taking time to
 render this abomination. Sad to say, I am now party to
 such desecration of what god meant email to be.

Different problem.  This delay is definitely due to the mail server.

  Sendmail delays are typically due to DNS or bad configuration
  issues. If you are willing to pay me a trifling fee, I'd be glad
  to offer myself as a consultant for fixing this problem.  Typical
  trifling fees are half your kingdom and your daughter's hand in
  marriage.
 
 OK, done. Joke is on you: I have neither a kingdom, nor
 a daughter.

Well, buy one and abduct the other then.  Oh wait, it wasn't you who was 
liable for the fee anyway!

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Re: [ilugd] Configuring sendmail in VPS Server

2012-05-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 28 May 2012, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 On 28 May 2012 23:27, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org
 wrote: [...]
 [snip]
  Should normally not be needed, as all the webapp has
  to do is to hand off to sendmail/postfix. However, this
  might be a problem if the webapp is sending
  shudderHTML mail/shudder, and is taking time to
  render this abomination. Sad to say, I am now party to
  such desecration of what god meant email to be.
  
  Different problem.  This delay is definitely due to the mail
  server.
 
 Even after he fixed hostname issues? Sorry, while I do
 joke about such things, I do appreciate being educated.
 I *am* serious here.

Whether you're handing off to a sendmail process, or making a port 25 
connection to localhost (or your smart host), your web app will 
typically wait until either sendmail returns or the receiving MTA has 
successfully sent a 250 2.0.0 response back.  There could be any 
number of things slowing down the mail server.  Some examples:

1. 'net-based spam/virus checks.

2. Slow DNS.

3. Slow 'net connectivity.

4. Lack of separation into MSA/MTA.

5. Load on the system itself.

6. Some bad configuration option.

You really need to look at each individual case and figure out where the 
bottleneck is.

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Re: [ilugd] Configuring sendmail in VPS Server

2012-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 27 May 2012, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote:
 Hello ,
 
 
 As Raj said I exactly used  :
   tail -f /var/log/mail.log
 while sending a email from the web application
 
 May 27 12:17:33 uni2versity sendmail[13521]: q4R8GXih013521: to=
 m...@gaurang.me, ctladdr=cont...@skilledinterns.com (33/33),
 delay=00:01:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30423,
 relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (q4R8HXG1013909
 Message accepted for delivery) May 27 12:17:34 uni2versity
 sm-mta[13912]: STARTTLS=client, relay= aspmx.l.google.com.,
 version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=RC4-SHA, bits=128/128
 May 27 12:17:34 uni2versity sm-mta[13912]: q4R8HXG1013909:
 to=m...@gaurang.me, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp,
 pri=120740, relay= aspmx.l.google.com. [209.85.225.26], dsn=2.0.0,
 stat=Sent (OK 1338106654 l17si3694120iga.62)
 May 27 12:20:01 uni2versity sm-msp-queue[15508]: My unqualified host
 name (uni2versity) unknown; sleeping for retry
 May 27 12:21:01 uni2versity sm-msp-queue[15508]: unable to qualify my
 own domain name (uni2versity) -- using short name
 May 27 12:40:02 uni2versity sm-msp-queue[5376]: My unqualified host
 name (uni2versity) unknown; sleeping for retry

There you go, that's the problem.  Your hostname is unknown and sendmail 
is failing/slowing down because of that.

Make sure that (a) your hostname command returns a fully-qualified 
host name, and (b) that fully-qualified host name exists at least in 
/etc/hosts.

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[ilugd] [Sort-of-OT] List Windows installed software

2012-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

I need to pull out data from some Windows desktops to put into an asset 
management system.  I can install NSClient++ or equivalent on the 
Windows machines -- NSClient++ preferred, since then I can use the same 
for monitoring the boxes with OpenNMS too.

Is there some easy way to get NSClient++ to list installed software 
packages and their versions over the network?  If not, is there some 
other tool that will allow that information to be pulled out remotely?

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source Mesh VPN

2012-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 28 May 2012, Arjun Venkatraman wrote:
 Looking for an open source vpn tool that can set up mesh networks.
 Hamachi is nice but its limited by license.
 OpenVPN doesnt seem to support mesh

It does: see Can I use a web browser as an OpenVPN client? on

http://wiki.vpslink.com/HOWTO:_OpenVPN

Maybe not the ideal solution for a mesh, though.

 PeerVPN is my best bet so far...anyone used it?

Otherwise try OpenS/WAN or StrongS/WAN, they're popular and well-
supported.  You could also have a look at Tinc (http://www.tinc-vpn.org/ 
), which is meant for exactly your requirement.  Don't know about 
standards compliance or availability of support there.

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Re: [ilugd] Configuring sendmail in VPS Server

2012-05-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 27 May 2012, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote:
 Hello guys,
 
 I have this VPS having Debian installed . I used apt-get remove
 sendmail to first , remove the sendmail and then apt-get install
 sendmail to install it again .
 But now , I have my websites taking awfully long time to send emails
 .
 
 Please tell me how to resolve this issue .

Get one of your web applications to send mail, while monitoring the 
sendmail log:

  tail -f /var/log/mail.log

That will tell you where the bottleneck is.

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Re: [ilugd] From where I can download desktop/laptop version of Linux?

2012-05-22 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 22 May 2012, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
 On 05/22/2012 08:37 AM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  If you want to do the research, go to one of the sites other users
  have pointed you to, test out each distribution and stick to the
  one that suits you. If you're too lazy, just use Debian + KDE
  (purely my personal opinion)
 
 I also prefer Debian (testing) purely due to it being kind of first
 rolling release distribution, Debian's social contract
 http://www.debian.org/social_contract and stability inspired me to
 use Debian.
 
 However, I recommend LinuxMint XFCE or ATE
 http://www.linuxmint.com/ for the beginners.

The reason I listed less than a handful of distributions in my original 
post was because those are popular, and easy to get documentation for.  
There may be a number of comparatively niche distributions that are 
better in some respect, but I wouldn't recommend them to a new user, 
primarily because of availability of support and developers.

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Re: [ilugd] How to Immediately Pause Printing in Linux?

2012-05-21 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Please don't hijack threads.

On Tuesday 22 May 2012, sanjay gupta wrote:
 i do not have any exposure on linux besides having 22 years of
 experience, please let me know from where i can download
 desktop/laptop version of linux, i am general secretary at acta,
 amritsar and i want my friends here to have a hands on experience on
 linux.

Arguably the most popular open desktop/laptop distributions of Linux 
are:

- Ubuntu
- Fedora
- SuSE
- Debian (my personal favourite)

If you want to do the research, go to one of the sites other users have 
pointed you to, test out each distribution and stick to the one that 
suits you.  If you're too lazy, just use Debian + KDE (purely my 
personal opinion).

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Fwd: Training requirements for Linux

2012-05-11 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Forwarding without prejudice.  Please contact Prabir directly if you're 
interested.

Regards,

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--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Fwd: Training requirements for Linux
Date: Friday 11 May 2012
From: prabir prab...@gmail.com
To: Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org

 With reference to discussions re Suse Linux installation and related
 activities, we require person(s) who can perform the following
 tasks:
 
 Task list
 a)  Installation and configuration of SUSE LINUX Enterprise
 Server

 b)  Installation and configuration of Oracle Real
 Application Cluster (RAC) on the Enterprise Server above

 c)  Integration of the system with IBM’s storage controller
 (DS4800/4700) and backup system (Tivoli FastBack T3100)

 Installation to be carried out in Jharsuguda.
 
 Training to our engineers for providing necessary support
 a)  Installation of SUSE Linux
 b)  Installation of Oracle Real Application Cluster
 
  Prabir

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[ilugd] Streaming video

2012-03-21 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

Anyone know a package that will let me stream WebM (or, failing that, 
Flash) video to a browser with remote functionality (Pause, Forward, 
Rewind, Play, etc)?

Pure FOSS solutions only, please.

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Re: [ilugd] Streaming video

2012-03-21 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 21 Mar 2012, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
 On 03/21/2012 06:30 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  Anyone know a package that will let me stream WebM (or, failing
  that, Flash) video to a browser with remote functionality (Pause,
  Forward, Rewind, Play, etc)?
  
  Pure FOSS solutions only, please.
 
 Red5 can be used as the streaming server which supports multiple file
 formats. You can use open source Adobe Flex SDK to build a simple
 player which does the pause, forward, rewind etc. Shouldn't be
 difficult.

Thanks, that helps.  There's a FOSS product called JWPlayer that seems 
to work with both FLV and WEBM, will try that out.

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Re: [ilugd] looking for laptop for Ubuntu (Rs. 25K)

2012-03-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 20 Mar 2012, Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 [snip]
 Another thought, can an Android tablet (costing not more than Rs
 20K), replace a laptop which serves above mentioned requirement? If
 yes, any suggestion ?

Even though a dev environment was announced for Android today, doubt if 
it's a great platform for development.

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Re: [ilugd] looking for laptop for Ubuntu (Rs. 25K)

2012-03-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 20 Mar 2012, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
 On Tuesday 20 Mar 2012, Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
  [snip]
  Another thought, can an Android tablet (costing not more than Rs
  20K), replace a laptop which serves above mentioned requirement? If
  yes, any suggestion ?
 
 Even though a dev environment was announced for Android today, doubt
 if it's a great platform for development.

Link to the IDE article:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/13/android_sdk/

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Re: [ilugd] Firefox Google extension

2012-03-12 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 12 Mar 2012, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
 Hmm, there's another option: switch completely to duckduckgo.com,
 which has cruft disabled and privacy enabled by default anyway.  I
 tested with a few sample queries and the DDG and Google results seem
 to be comparable.  However, the duckduckgo results are beautifully
 visible in my 515-pixel-wide browser window, and they stream on
 scrolling (no more next page nonsense).

Incidentally, if you haven't heard of DuckDuckGo, here's a neat article 
on how it compares to Google:

http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/technology%2dtuesday%2d30%2ddays%2dwith%2dduckduckgo/

Seems to be mostly serving the techie crowd right now, and I hate its 
results for people (egosurfing gives me #1 hit on Google, while it's at 
some obscure position in duckduckgo ;-) but it still works pretty well.

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Re: [ilugd] Postfix: Black-listing email addresses/domains

2012-03-11 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 11 Mar 2012, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 On 11 March 2012 21:31, Ashish SHUKLA ashish...@lostca.se wrote:
  Or you can also use greylisting daemon, esp. spamd[1] (only works
  on *BSD) or postgrey/policyd (or other greylisting software) for
  postfix.
 
 Thank you: This looks almost exactly like what I want. I do hope
 that all genuine MTAs retry after a temporary error. I understand
 that this is required by a RFC.

Or the sending MTA may just go to the secondary MX and try delivering 
the message there after failure on the primary.

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Re: [ilugd] Firefox Google extension

2012-03-11 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 12 Mar 2012, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
 Google seems to have optimised its pages for wide screens, with a
 toolbar on the left, search results in the middle and previews on the
 right.  Earlier I used to have a Firefox extension called
 OptimizeGoogle, which would reorganise Google search results to
 only show the results, and remove all the cruft (e.g. the toolbar on
 the left is just a real-estate waste for me 99.99% of the time). 
 Unfortunately OptimizeGoogle seems to have stopped development, and
 is not available for FF anymore.
 
 Anyone know a fresh Google extension for FF which would (in
 decreasing order of preference):
 
 - Remove cruft (incl. left toolbar) from Google search results
 - Automagically set 50 results per page
 - Delete Google cookies (or automatically set custom cookies)
 - Add sequence number to results
 - Replace Google search links with links to the actual site
 - Get rid of the preview feature

Hmm, there's another option: switch completely to duckduckgo.com, which 
has cruft disabled and privacy enabled by default anyway.  I tested with 
a few sample queries and the DDG and Google results seem to be 
comparable.  However, the duckduckgo results are beautifully visible in 
my 515-pixel-wide browser window, and they stream on scrolling (no more 
next page nonsense).

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Re: [ilugd] [Webdev] Do you want to own an iPad with a free 3G feature

2012-03-02 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 02 Mar 2012, tashi samphel wrote:
 You must check with your bank whether it allow you to make on-line
 international transaction with their debit card or not. I used my
 credit card to purchase the software. Using the above technology you
 can also enjoy Internet connection on your Linux or Mac computer by
 enabling Wi-Fi and you don't need to install Nokia PC Suite for
 that. Cool! isn't it?

I'm sorry, but what exactly does this have to do with Linux and/or FOSS 
in the context of Delhi?  Sure there are any number of exciting 
applications out there, but we don't need to discuss them in this 
specific list unless there's some benefit, at least, from a purely 
Linux/FOSS point of view.

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Re: [ilugd] [Webdev] Do you want to own an iPad with a free 3G feature

2012-03-02 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 03 Mar 2012, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 Heh! Was thinking the same thing, but had refrained till this post.
 I concur: Supporting crappy iPads or Nokia, or what have you is
 hardly of interest on this list. IMHO, this is true even if the tools
 used for such support are FOSS.

That's an edge case -- if the tool is FOSS then it may just be relevant 
to discuss it here.  However, this discussion was purely about a 
proprietary tool running on proprietary platforms.

OTOH, Apple, with its excellent user-friendly policies, won't allow any 
GPL software in its Store, so Apple users are prohibited from ever 
having access to a large portion of FOSS.  Unless they violate the ToS 
and jailbreak their phones, of course.

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Re: [ilugd] Shell Script Query

2012-02-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 29 Feb 2012, shailesh kumar wrote:
 Dear All,
 
  I am shailesh. Just need small help to write a shell script.
 
  There are two tables T1 and T2 both tables one row is
 common.
 
  i have to filter out subIndx (common keyword),imsi,msisdn
 from both tables

Without knowing more about the application, and going by the sample data 
you have provided, I'd suggest you make single-line entries for each set 
of data in each table, and then use sort/join to filter your data.

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[ilugd] [SOLVED] Re: Shell script not running as expected via crontab, runs fine manually !!

2012-02-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 27 Feb 2012, Amit Sharma wrote:
 Thanks!
  
 The below is now working manually as well as via crontab.  is
 required so that log can be maintained. 
 #!/bin/bash
 # Script to check exim mailq at a specified interval
 date  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
 Counter=`/usr/sbin/exim -bpc`
 echo $Counter  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
 if [ $Counter -gt 0 ]
 then
 cat /adminscripts/logs/eximcount |mail -s Count of EXIM Mailq on
 Server  a.sha...@example.com else
 exit 1
 fi

So it seems that the problem was the exim executables being located in 
/sbin... that seems to be the major change between this version and the 
previous one.

CC'ing the ILUGD mailing list so that the archives reflect the solved 
state of the problem.

Regards,

-- Raj

 From: Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org
 To: il...@frodo.hserus.net
 Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [ilugd] Shell script not running as expected via
 crontab, runs fine manually !!
 
 On Monday 27 Feb 2012, Amit Sharma wrote:
  #!/bin/bash
  # Script to check exim mailq at a specified interval
  echo `date`  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
  echo `exim -bpc`  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
 
 First of all, why the needless complexity?  You can just:
 
 date  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
 exim -bpc  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
 
 Also, should the first  be a single  ?
 
  if [ `exim -bpc` -gt 0 ]
  then
  cat /adminscripts/logs/eximcount |mail -s Count of EXIM Mailq
  on Server  a.sha...@example.com else
  exit 1
  fi
 
  
 
  The above runs fine manually, however when I try to run it through
  crontab (as root), it DOES run but /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
  gets empty value. When I run it manually it is able to get the
  correct count like 5, 10 etc.
  What am I missing here? Please help.
 
 Check the permissions on the script.
 
 Remove the file before the cron runs and see if it gets created.
 
 Check where root's mail goes -- that will help you track any cron
 errors.
 
 Put full paths to all programs you execute in the script.
 
 Let us see the whole cron command line.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [ilugd] Shell script not running as expected via crontab, runs fine manually !!

2012-02-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 27 Feb 2012, Amit Sharma wrote:
 #!/bin/bash
 # Script to check exim mailq at a specified interval
 echo `date`  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
 echo `exim -bpc`  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount

First of all, why the needless complexity?  You can just:

date  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount
exim -bpc  /adminscripts/logs/eximcount

Also, should the first  be a single  ?

 if [ `exim -bpc` -gt 0 ]
 then
 cat /adminscripts/logs/eximcount |mail -s Count of EXIM Mailq
 on Server  a.sha...@example.com else
 exit 1
 fi
  
 The above runs fine manually, however when I try to run it through
 crontab (as root), it DOES run but /adminscripts/logs/eximcount gets
 empty value. When I run it manually it is able to get the correct
 count like 5, 10 etc. 
 What am I missing here? Please help.

Check the permissions on the script.

Remove the file before the cron runs and see if it gets created.

Check where root's mail goes -- that will help you track any cron 
errors.

Put full paths to all programs you execute in the script.

Let us see the whole cron command line.

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[ilugd] [HUMOUR] Fwd: Funny Indian names

2012-02-10 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
--  Forwarded Message  --
Subject: Funny Indian names
Date: Friday 10 Feb 2012
From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org
To: Raj Mathur r...@kandalaya.org

Indian names and their meanings

Atul -- studies too hard
Anuj -- annoys everyone
Anoop -- can't get anything done
Swapnil -- keeps everything in his memory
Ranjit -- uses a fast Java platform

Can you think of any to add?

---

Please add any geeky ones you can think of... I came up with:

Sanjay -- keeps all data on fast network storage
Ram -- the obvious :)
Manish -- always busy consulting the documentation
Ajay -- develops Java and YAML
Sunil -- fails at becoming root

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Re: [ilugd] [HUMOUR] Fwd: Funny Indian names

2012-02-10 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 11 Feb 2012, Nagarjuna G wrote:
 2012/2/11 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org:
  --  Forwarded Message  --
  Subject: Funny Indian names
  Date: Friday 10 Feb 2012
  From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org
  To: Raj Mathur r...@kandalaya.org
  
  Indian names and their meanings
  
  Atul -- studies too hard
  Anuj -- annoys everyone
  Anoop -- can't get anything done
  Swapnil -- keeps everything in his memory
  Ranjit -- uses a fast Java platform
  
  Can you think of any to add?
  
  ---
  
  Please add any geeky ones you can think of... I came up with:
  
  Sanjay -- keeps all data on fast network storage
  Ram -- the obvious :)
  Manish -- always busy consulting the documentation
  Ajay -- develops Java and YAML
  Sunil -- fails at becoming root
 
 ANU --  Anu is Not Unix
 
 I like this best, since RMS while naming the free OS he looked for a
 meaningful names that can be recursive acronyms and chose the first
 meaningful word and halted at GNU.  I would have halted at ANU.
 
 ANU is not funny though!

How about...

Nagarjuna -- Keeps pestering the third-oldest Pandava

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Re: [ilugd] Laptop for Fedora any recommendations?

2012-02-07 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 07 Feb 2012, abhishek jain wrote:
 I am Planning to purchase one Laptop with Fedora on with intel Core
 i3 + 2 GB RAM, any recommendations on model?
 Should i prefer Dell  or HP? or else.

I recently bought an HP 430 w/ 4GB RAM, i3, 500GB HDD pretty cheap (~34K 
with FreeDOS).  Works beautifully with Linux, all hardware supported 
natively.  And the display is to die for.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/th/en/sm/WF05a/321957%2d321957%2d64295%2d3955548%2d3955548%2d5086733.html?dnr=1

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[ilugd] [Humour] Microsoft keeps it old-school with a pricey text adventure game, Visual Studio 2010

2012-01-21 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Microsoft keeps it old-school with a pricey text adventure game, Visual 
Studio 2010

By Peter Bright

Microsoft has jumped onto the free-to-play bandwagon with its latest 
game, a text-driven adventure called Visual Studio 2010. The innovative 
new game marries the traditional interactive fiction text adventure with 
its arcane commands and exploration with the free-form, open-ended 
gaming pioneered by the likes of SimCity.

There are two major modes to the game, a textual spell-casting game, and 
a more complex interactive puzzle mode.

Play starts with the spell game. The game has three difficulty modes. In 
the two easiest modes Visual Studio questers must cast spells to appease 
a malevolent gatekeeper known only as the compiler, combining the text 
adventuring of Zork with the wizardy and magic of Loom. If the player's 
spell contains even a single faulty incantation, the compiler will 
respond with a torrent of abuse and spells of its own; the player must 
piece together clues contained within compiler's response to determine 
how they went wrong.

In the hardest mode, a second gatekeeper, the even more cantankerous 
linker, must also be satisfied. In this mode, even more complex magic 
is required. The player must mix multiple, interrelated spells and 
potions, ensuring they operate in perfect concert to persuade both 
compiler and linker to allow them to pass.

Full article:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/01/microsoft%2dpimps%2dit%2dold%2dschool%2dwith%2da%2dpricey%2dtext%2dadventure%2dgame.ars

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for an Android Developer for App Dev Contract

2011-12-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011, Arjun Venkatraman wrote:
 [snip]
 A SIP client that can :
 1. Forward incoming calls on a GSM/CDMA (GSM only will do, but CDMA
 only will not) line to a SIP number at a proxy on the same LAN

Wouldn't that be illegal without a VoIP licence in India?

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for an Android Developer for App Dev Contract

2011-12-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 29 Dec 2011, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Saurabh Jain 
saurabh.j...@gmail.comwrote:
  Within the same LAN, it is legal.
  
  You can transfer incoming PSTN lines over IP to any point within
  your network. You can even transfer over WAN to an office in
  another SDCA.
  
  On the outbound front, you can't initiate a call using a PSTN port
  in another SDCA. So, you can't use SIP over your WAN and use a
  PSTN port in Bangalore to initiate a local call in Bangalore.
  You'd have to use your local PSTN port and dial long distance to
  Bangalore.
  
  The rules are easy to understand once you know the motivations of
  the babus. Their corporate overlords told them IP calling should
  not impact revenue. And so, anything that effects the revenue of
  Airtel, BSNL, etc., is not allowed. That said, for incoming calls,
  they don't care if you forward a PSTN call over IP - over a LAN,
  or over WAN even internationally.
 
 As I understand, any kind of PSTN to VOIP connection is not allowed.
 (Without any official permission from DOT. That is given at very high
 fees)
 
 PSTN to PSTN, VOIP to VOIP is perfectly fine, both incoming or
 outgoing even internationally.
 
 Typical scenerio of the famous cheap VOIP boxes that has voip on one
 side and PSTN on other side (especially terminating to the EPABX) 
 is not legal.

As Saurabh said, it's legal within the same LAN.  I have clients who get 
calls over PSTN and terminate them internally to VoIP handsets and/or 
soft phones.

You are correct too -- the primary motivation for the law (rule?) is to 
prevent you from causing revenue loss to the telcos.  As long as you 
don't bypass a PSTN leg by using VoIP, you're well within the law.

Fascinating how we can be denied access to technology and cheap 
communications to protect a few.  AFAIR the law was brought into force 
originally to protect VSNL's IDD business.  I guess if you raise any 
voice against it now, the powers-that-be will raise the eternal spectre 
of national security and squash reform like a bug.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Looking for Perl Programmers

2011-12-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 21 Dec 2011, Nishikant Kapoor wrote:
 Hello all,

Well, well, look who popped up out of the woodwork!  Good to see you, 
Nishi, tell us more about where you are and what you're up to.

For those who came in late, Nishikant is the person who single-handedly 
built a web portal system in Perl, then vanished under the radar for 
decades.  That portal is the one linux-delhi.org is currently running 
on.

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Re: [ilugd] Comparison of txt2tags and other light mark-up Languages

2011-11-11 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 11 Nov 2011, A. Mani wrote:
 (In French)
 
 http://fgallaire.flext.net/comparaison-langage-balisage-markup-lightw
 eight-leger-txt2tags-pandoc-docutils-asciidoc-deplate-stx2any-aft-mar
 kdown-textile/

Surprised that Emacs org-mode, which does excellent export to HTML and 
LaTeX (PDF) is missing from the comparison (though my French isn't all 
that good -- non-existent, actually).

If you don't care about the advanced features, org-mode is a superb 
lightweight text markup system.

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Re: [ilugd] Perl SVN help required

2011-11-08 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2011, Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 Need help in Perl SVN.
 [snip]
 Using commands like “svn co url” or using perl modules for the
 same.
 
 What does the expert here think, which one is the better idea ?

I'd go with the Perl module, since that is independent of command-line 
vagaries.  The standard library seems to be just called SVN.

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Re: [ilugd] Perl SVN help required

2011-11-08 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2011, Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 Could you please suggest some particular one which helps me perform
 the basic svn operations ?
 Being new to Perl ans SVN both, I am finding it a difficult to choose
 the right one(s) at
 http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/module/SVN/
 The lack of proper documentation is making life further difficult.
 Also, not all seem to be available for Windows (e.g. SVN-Agent ).

They're all part of the same module.  Presumably if you install SVN 
through CPAN (or better, get a pre-packaged one for your platform) you 
should get all the sub-modules available.

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[ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] A Debate on the UID Project

2011-10-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
NSS and EDLC, IIT Delhi present

A Debate on the UID Project

Date: 2 November 2011
Venue: IV LT3, IIT Delhi
Time: 5.30 – 7.30 pm

http://web.iitd.ac.in/~arjunghosh/uid/uid.html

All are welcome; participation is free.

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Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Steve Jobs Exposed, Wanted To Destroy Android

2011-10-21 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 21 Oct 2011, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
  Only Linux and open source does not have such controversies.
 
 And a bunch of idiots were going after the life of RMS for
 criticizing dictator from Cupertino. I think 2011 was important ...
 Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Libya and *Cupertino*.

While one may disagree with Jobs' ideas and objectives, why bring him 
personally into it?  Hate the ideas, sure, but don't hate the man!

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Re: [ilugd] Hello everybody!

2011-10-13 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hey, that's a cool post.  Of course, I don't necessarily agree that 
being 50+ limits you from doing anything much (OK, may avoid running the 
full marathon), but more power to your dabbling, and more power to your 
inspirations :)

Regards,

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On Thursday 13 Oct 2011, Balwinder S Dheeeman wrote:
 It has been long since I left this list just due lack of time, I was
 not that very active a contributor to F/OSS then and may be shall
 never be much in the future as well; I'm 50+ and getting older day
 by day.
 
 Anyway, I still maintain a few FreeBSD ports
 (http://anu.homelinux.net/ports), PKGBUILDs for ArchLinux
 (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=bdheeman), debs for
 Debian (http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/Debian/) and Ubuntu
 (http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/Ubuntu/).
 
 I scraped together, FreeBSD-7.2 (just to fit the things on 1GB UBS
 stick) and 9VX and released it as Nano9
 (http://werc.homelinux.net/hacks/nano9/) around a year ago.
 
 I mostly remain busy trading stocks, bullion, currencies, commodities
 and, or derivatives these days, hence actively work on personalized
 copy (not a fork) of Qtstaker (http://qtstalker.sourceforge.net/)
 only.
 
 Last but not the least, a big thanks to Ashish SHUKLA
 (http://ashish.is.lostca.se/) with 1Mw smile :)

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Re: [ilugd] CentOS 5.6 ( Multiple Problems )

2011-10-06 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 06 Oct 2011, Kristen Eisenberg wrote:
 I am using CentOS 5.6 on my VPS , and I am having multiple problems .
 1.
 /etc/init.d/httpd reload
 Reloading httpd:   [FAILED]
 [root@ip-1-- /]# /etc/init.d/httpd start
 Starting httpd:[FAILED]
 [root@ip-1--  /]# /etc/init.d/httpd stop
 Stopping httpd:[FAILED]

What does the Apache error.log contain?

As an aside, are you related to Gaurang Agarwal?  Or is two people 
having identical problems with identical software on identical 
distributions in identical environments in two days a sheer coincidence?

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Re: [ilugd] CentOS 5.6 ( Multiple Problems )

2011-10-04 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote:
 c/init.d/httpd restart
 Stopping httpd:[FAILED]
 Starting httpd: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to
 address [::]:80
 (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address
 0.0.0.0:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down
 Unable to open logs
[FAILED]

Apache is trying to bind to IPv6 instead of IPv4.  Is that what you 
really want?  If not, try changing your Listen directive from:

  Listen 80

to

  Listen 0.0.0.0:80

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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Saurabh Sharma wrote:
 I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
 gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
 along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a
 descent 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both connections
 there as connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and now on WLAN
 when i try working on the server to which i was connected, the
 server is not responding to my keystrokes as if the connection broke
 and i have to make a new connection to the server in order to use it
 in a new tab. The old connection [the one over LAN ] breaks after
 some time, with a timeout message.

If you want to continue using the same connection over LAN and WLAN, you 
will have to either have the same IP address on both media, or use an 
app like screen to run your ssh in.

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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
  I’m on a LAN [in office] connected to remote server over SSH [using
  gnome terminal], now I've to go over for a meeting on another floor
  along with my notebook. I switch on to mine office WLAN with a
  descent 90+ signal strength, Network manager shows both
  connections there as connected. I disconnect my LAN connection and
  now on WLAN when i try working on the server to which i was
  connected, the server is not responding to my keystrokes as if the
  connection broke and i have to make a new connection to the server
  in order to use it in a new tab. The old connection [the one over
  LAN ] breaks after some time, with a timeout message.
 
 Do you get the same IP address on both interfaces?

Actually, come to think of it even having the same IP address on both 
networks may not work.  Off the top of my head, it would depend on:

1. Whether your NAT provider sees LAN and WLAN packets coming over 
different interfaces or the same interface, and

2. Whether your NAT provider is interface-agnostic or not.

If your packets are coming over different interfaces, and the NAT box is 
storing the interface as part of the connection meta-data, then even 
having the same IP on different networks may not work.

Use screen, $deity's gift to system administrators all over the world!

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Re: [ilugd] SSH KeepAlive with Switched Networks

2011-09-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 27 Sep 2011, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
 You probably mean to run screen in ssh, i.e. screen on remote
 end? Otherwise with screen to run your ssh in, instead of using
 GNOME terminal's pty, you're using screen's pty, with nothing
 changed at the network interface level.

Er, right!  Run screen on the ssh server, and login to it from any 
network.

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-31 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 29 Aug 2011, Mehul Ved wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, abhishek jain
 
 abhishek.netj...@gmail.com wrote:
  there is no way to check usage until the bill is handed over.
 
 Where there are enough software tools available on android to measure
 and warn you about your data usage, free as well as paid. I prefer 3G
 Watchdog
 https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdog

I'm using Traffic Counter, which is free (only as in free beer, 
unfortunately), and the base version shows you traffic by application.  
The primary objective was to figure out which built-in Android 
applications were talking to the 'net behind my back (yes, it's terrible 
to be paranoid but if /they/ were after you, you'd be paranoid too!)  
Have found only one so far: SIM Toolkit.

Time to root the phone and uninstall the cr*p, I guess.

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 28 Aug 2011, abhishek jain wrote:
 may be because the call rates have dropped and  VAS bill is larger
 than the phone call bill (at least for me).

Heh, so true.  OTOH, after finally inserting the SIM into this phone 
(which took two days due to sheer laziness in transferring contacts from 
the old phone to the new) I was pleasantly surprised to get a message 
about 6 months of free 3G (1GB pm) from Vodafone.  They probably think 
that the user will get so used to 3G that s/he will not want to give it 
up after the trial period, little knowing that cheap ol' me will leech 
their 6 free GB and then happily revert to Edge unless some provider 
comes out with a reasonably-priced 3G plan!

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 28 Aug 2011, abhishek jain wrote:
 Beware of 3G plans, i bought a 100MB plan from airtel, i mistakenly
 used 196 MB, i was charged Rs. 100 for first 100MB and 1400 for next
 96 MB and more so they dont alert on overuse :( , there is no way to
 check usage until the bill is handed over.

Ouch!  There's probably something you can do at the Consumer Court level 
about that.  Sudev would be the right person to advise.

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[ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

Having purchased an Android phone, thought an India-specific Android 
mailing list wouldn't be a bad idea.  So whether you're an Android user, 
hacker, developer or just curious, hop over to:

  mailto:indroid-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.org?subject=subscribe

For the moment, anything Android-related goes.

Warning: the initial month is likely to be filled with yours truly 
asking tons of newbie Android questions!

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Re: [ilugd] Wiki help required

2011-08-12 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 12 Aug 2011, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 2011/8/12 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org:
 To save possible duplication of effort, I have already sent
 Raj a list, off-list.

Thanks to both people who sent lists (Gora Mohanty and Andrew Lynn).  If 
you're still feeling adventurous, you could go and check the home page 
of each and every user, and make a list of those who:

a. Haven't filled out any personal information at all, or
b. Have filled spam in their personal information.

The first category is most likely spam registrations, while the second 
definitely is.

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[ilugd] Wiki help required

2011-08-11 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

We keep getting spam registrations on our Wiki.  I'll be glad to remove 
them, but don't have the time right now to go and track down each and 
every one.  Can someone volunteer to go through each of the 
registrations at:

  http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/TWikiUsers

and make a list of the ones that look like spam, or the ones that don't 
look legitimate?  If you send me the list, I'll remove the offending 
entries.

Thanks,

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Best pre-paid 3G option in Delhi

2011-07-18 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 18 Jul 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 its nice in that it will let 3 - 5 devices hook up over Wifi. the
 E585 tends to go about 8 - 12 hours of usage, before needing a
 charge.

Couldn't find a provider-independent E585 yet, but Tirveni also did some 
research and came up with this one:

  http://www.pluggd.in/micromax-3g-wifi-router-price-297/

which, apparently, is easily available in India.

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Re: [ilugd] What happens in BASH when you do Ctrl-C (hint, it's not simply sending a SIGINT)

2011-07-17 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 17 Jul 2011, Sharad Birmiwal wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I originally posted this question on
  stackoverflowhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/6624622/what-happe
  ns-in-bash-when-you-do-ctrl-c-hint-its-not-simply-sending-a-sigint
  , but did not receive a satisfactory response. Any ideas?
 
 Mystery solved!
 
 The reason is because apt-get invokes a program called http to
 download packages. Here is what I tried.
 
 Terminal 1
 
 $ sudo su
 $ apt-get install wetlands-data   (some package I found randomly to
 be big)
 
 Terminal 2
 
  8493 pts/0S+ 0:00 apt-get install widelands-data
  8495 pts/0S+ 0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
 
 When you press control+c, the signal is sent to http and NOT apt-get.
 That's the difference. I tried sending SIGINT to process 8495 and I
 was able to resume download :)

Quite fascinating.  Apparently when you ^C in the shell, it sends the 
signal to the running process and all its child processes, whereas if 
you SIGINT sudo it doesn't seem to pass the signal down.  Question is, 
why?

How about an strace of both methods to see what is the difference in 
signal handling between the shell and sudo?  I'd do it myself but I'm 
too lazy^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H have too much work on my plate right now ;-)

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] What happens in BASH when you do Ctrl-C (hint, it's not simply sending a SIGINT)

2011-07-17 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 17 Jul 2011, Sharad Birmiwal wrote:
 -- begin offtopic --
 I tried $ /usr/lib/apt/methods/http www.yahoo.com but that didn't
 seem to start fetching the file. As noted already, it's probably part
 of the apt family and has it's own invocation method. apt developers
 for some reason didn't want to use curl or wget. When I tested apt
 earlier in the thread, I greped for were wget and curl (in ps) before
 simply reading ps ax. One reason for this could be that their http
 gives them feedback which allows apt to show progress.
 -- end offtopic --

Reason for the executable (note: not even a Perl script) is probably 
that apt-get (dpkg?) can run on a bare system before anything else is 
installed.  It has to be able to download curl/wget before using it, and 
how do you download curl/wget?  You use your built-in method, aka http.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Best pre-paid 3G option in Delhi

2011-07-14 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 14 Jul 2011, Vikas Rawal wrote:
  On a related note, anyone suggest an el cheapo mobile phone with
  3G,
 
 The cheapest solution would be to by el cheapo phone (without 3G) for
 voice calls and use Nokia 5800 for internet. Since that will reduce
 the load on Nokia 5800, the battery will survive somewhat longer.
 
 All this, if you are looking for a really cheap solution!!

Thanks for all the information, folks.  At the moment Reliance looks 
like the best option; I only wish they had plans with validity longer 
than 30 days -- if I have to pay them ever month I may as well get a 
postpaid connection!

Right, so now: which Linux-compatible data card?  I presume it makes 
sense to buy your own data card and use the telco's SIM in that?

Incidentally, Vikas, you kids don't realise that at my advanced age, 
getting used to a new phone's functions is no trivial exercise.  I'm 
going to run this Nokia 5800 into the ground before starting the pains 
of switching to a new phone, user interface, phonebook format, etc!

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Best pre-paid 3G option in Delhi

2011-07-14 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 15 Jul 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 On 07/14/2011 03:41 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
  Right, so now: which Linux-compatible data card?  I presume it
  makes sense to buy your own data card and use the telco's SIM in
  that?
 
 I think the age of the data card is now gone, the options worth
 considering :
 
 - get an android device that has proper tether support

Skipping Android 2 for now due to its pathetic battery management -- all 
reports indicate that Android 3 is going to be way better in that arena, 
so will await its presence in the market.  Also, need to find an Android 
vendor who doesn't pay royalty to MicroSux.

 - get a wifi device/gsm bridge like the huawei E585 ( a MiFi )

That looks interesting, could add it to the shopping list.

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[ilugd] [OT] Best pre-paid 3G option in Delhi

2011-07-13 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi, I was thinking of getting one of those pre-paid MTNL 3G SIMs to use 
for 'net access when on the road or out on work.  Is there any company 
which is giving a better deal?  Pre-paid is a must: my mobile 'net 
requirement is sporadic, and I don't want to have to keep paying the 
telco every month regardless of whether I use the service or not.

On a related note, anyone suggest an el cheapo mobile phone with 3G, 
Bluetooth and decent battery life that one can use as a modem with 
Linux?  My Nokia 5800 does all that, but (a) it's not el cheapo, (b) I'm 
already using it with Vodafone and (c) its battery life, while adequate 
for talk, isn't too good with both BT and 3G on.

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for a geek meetup or get together in Bangalore Linux-Bangalore chapter

2011-07-04 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 05 Jul 2011, Neeraj Narayan wrote:
 I had been attending the linux meetings and get together in Delhi.
 Now since I have been relocated to Bangalore, I would like to be
 familiar with the FOSS people in Bangalore.
 
 Please suggest some group or link...
 
http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-bengaluru?hl=en

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Java/Tomcat and web toolkit coders wanted

2011-06-14 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

A big-name client is looking to develop a client/server application 
using Java, Web toolkits and Tomcat for international deployment.  They 
are offering decent money for a 6-8 month contract, with possibility of 
employment later if both parties are amenable (they have large 
international development centres in NCR and Bengaluru).

I'm the project manager for this exercise.  If you're interested in 
sleepless nights, forgotten weekends and the opportunity to work with 
other elite professionals on a package that will eventually be deployed 
at millions of locations, please mail me your CV and be prepared for a 
gruelling interview :)

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Re: [ilugd] Fork Bomb and User Limit: Some Serious Concerns.

2011-06-08 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011, Ankit Chaturvedi wrote:
  Is there a way we can tweak the ulimit - user limit for all users.
  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/security/90836-user-limits-linux.h
  tml - wasn't so helpful.
 
 Try 'setrlimit' to set RLIMIT_NPROC to some agreeable value. NPROC is
 the number of processes a user can create. Limiting them will
 atleast leave you with enough resources to start a shell and kill
 the offending process (bash in this case).
 ulimit will not work if you don't have pam_limits module for your
 kernel (it's not built by default). Try loading pam_limits module
 manuallly and see if the limits in /etc/security/limits.conf are
 honored then.
 
 There is no definite solution to preventing a fork_bomb as such, but
 patches like this http://grsecurity.net/ may help you finding which
 user started the fork bomb, though it might be an overkill for
 single user systems.

So will any of these solutions work when the user is logged in as root?

In general, how are you going to prevent root from destroying your 
system?

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Re: [ilugd] [OffTopic] Preview of the new website

2011-06-07 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011, Shamail wrote:
 I've been working on a project from some time,
 http://tunesdiary.com
 
 Its now open for preview, please have a look at it and tell me the
 goods and the bads.
 Hope you like my work.

Does this have anything to do with FOSS, even tangentially?

On an unrelated note, I see that the site has a friend addition feature.  
Great, now we can expect spam from there too!

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Re: [ilugd] Fork Bomb and User Limit: Some Serious Concerns.

2011-06-07 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011, Amar Akshat wrote:
 I have been lately disturbed by my fellow novice intern admins who
 have been granted super user privileges. They are all trying the
 kiddish stuff and it upsets the environment, and more over I am
 unable to hang around and see what is happening and fix that.
 
 Lately some of them have discovered fork bomb, example
 
 :(){ :|:  };:
 and this works in my personal Ubuntu v-machines. I have figured out
 that if run as root, this would keep on exhausting memory and system
 ultimately goes down very slow.
 
 Is there a way we can tweak the ulimit - user limit for all users.
 http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/security/90836-user-limits-linux.htm
 l - wasn't so helpful.

In my opinion you're trying to solve the wrong problem.  Giving 
untrusted users admin access on production systems is going to keep 
causing problems, regardless of how many such vulnerabilities you 
close.  The real solution is to remove admin access from all except a 
few experienced users.

If you can't do that, give each one of them a virtual machine to play 
with and let him/her destroy it in whatever innovative fashion s/he 
finds convenient.

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Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-06-05 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011, Shubhneet Goel via LinkedIn wrote:
 Shubhneet Goel requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:

Added:

  
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/DoNotTrustMeWithYourPersonalData

And no, this is not about some Vinay -- the same mail has come to at
least 2 mailing lists I'm subscribed to, as well as to me personally.

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Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-06-01 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 01 Jun 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
 On 06/01/2011 05:41 PM, Prakhar Agarwal prak...@fedoraproject.org 
wrote:
  Dude, it wouldn't hurt to check the email-id itself before
  shooting off a mail to anyone. Your friend Vinay in your contact
  list is saved as
  
  Vinay Kumar Gupta il...@frodo.hserus.net
 
 Prakhar  Ravi - how did you get his name and email address? Also,
 what does this guy do? Is he an employer or a consultant - if you
 search the past archives for at=least a year or two, you'll only see
 mention of Vinay
 
 http://search.gmane.org/?query=invitation+to+connect+on+linkedinauth
 or=group=gmane.user-groups.linux.delhisort=relevanceDEFAULTOP=and
 xP=Zinvit%09ZlinkedinxFILTERS=Guser-groups.linux.delhi---A
 
 
 Maybe the users here aren't actually opening up their address books
 to linkedin. Almost all wanted to add Vinay for some reason. So,
 their addition to the hall of shame may need a review :-) Rather
 this Vinay is the culprit who would need to change his email
 address.

If that were the case, the friends of this putative Vinay Gupta would be 
able to tell us something about him, starting with his real e-mail ID.  
Until then, I stick to adding names to the Wiki page.

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Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-05-31 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Wednesday 01 Jun 2011, Amar Akshat wrote:
 I support this, a policy can be put in place by the admins over this
 DL. Putting the name in a webpage (like a box of shame) also kind of
 discourages people to post in and join in.

How exactly does putting your name on a page if you insist on giving 
your password away to an untrusted site prevent you from joining and 
participating in a technical mailing list?  The two are completely 
unrelated.

Site/address blacklists don't work, since there are so many sites 
nowadays that ask you for your password it's impossible to keep track of 
them.  On the other hand, if someone's volunteering to make such a 
comprehensive blacklist AND maintain it on a regular basis, I'm sure the 
list admin(s) can be persuaded to use those.

The Wiki page is not an official mailing list policy or an official 
ILUGD initiative.  It's a user initiative, and updated by users.  If 
your name is on that page and you don't want it there, all you need to 
do is sign up on the Wiki (it's free and automatic), edit the page and 
delete your name from there -- not exactly rocket science.

Finally, I'd be glad if someone took on the task of educating every 
Internet user on how foolish and insecure it is to give your password 
away to any site that asks for it.  Until that is done, however, shame 
works as an excellent motivation to learn really fast.  Since that Wiki 
page was started, the number of offences on this mailing list has gone 
down by 64.729% (create your own statistics if you don't like mine :)

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 28 May 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
 Haha, this is interesting. BTW, wasn't the user supposed to be
 ram1.foo.com in your case instead of r...@foo.com? Are there two
 profiles created in Vodafone's blackberry interface for that user?

I'm wondering that is the case: two profiles, one that works and one 
that doesn't, somehow causing interference patterns.  The mail reaches 
the BB quickly when the two sine waves reinforce each other and late 
when they are 180 degrees out of sync, sort of :)

As for the users, system users are user.foo.com, IMAP users are 
u...@foo.com.

 Again, is it only one user that's facing this issue?

As far as I know, will have to check on Monday.

In any case, thanks for all the help, everyone!  Will keep you posted if 
there are any updates.

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[ilugd] AnyRemote

2011-05-28 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
 awesome features beyond those 
a traditional remote offers. It's extremely versatile, letting you 
control anything from a music player to your whole desktop (you can use 
your phone instead of the mouse if you're the masochistic type.) I 
highly recommend it for anyone who needs remote control functionality 
for their computer.

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 27 May 2011, krish wrote:
  On the other hand, if there's some internal blackberry server, then
  I'm not too sure about that. But ideally the procedure should be
  the same.
 
 If its an internal BB server, then you'll need to reset the user
 profiles (using BB PIN of users) or reset all users, re-provision the
 settings and then test.

Nope, it's the service provider's BB server.

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 27 May 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
 On a different note, what kind of issues are your users facing on
 Blackberry?
 
  From what I've experienced, usually the users prefer the Blackberry
 services provided by the service providers such as Vodafone  Airtel.
 This means going on airtel's website, entering your server details
 and the username and password and it's instantly activated. This
 I've personally seen working flawlessly with both Courier and
 Dovecot (though dovecot is better), both with self signed SSL
 certificates. On the contrary, the apple devices create trouble if
 using self signed certificates.
 
 What's more, if your users are getting trouble connecting via the
 service provider's blackberry interface, then you can directly call
 up the service provider to assist. They may need the server name,
 username and password to test at their end.

Since you ask the specific problem goes something like this:

We've set up a mail server for the client.  The server is handling two 
domains (say foo.com and bar.com).

foo.com has one BB user, while bar.com has many BB users.  The foo.com 
BB user (say ram) has accounts on both domains: r...@foo.com and 
r...@bar.com.

Mail sent to r...@bar.com reflects immediately in the user's webmail, 
Outlook, couple of other mail clients AND his BB.

Mail sent to r...@foo.com reflects immediately in the user's webmail, 
Outlook, couple of other mail clients, but NOT his BB.  It may take 
anything from 15 seconds (acceptable) up to an hour (definitely not 
acceptable) to reach his BB.

Note that the same server and the same software (and the same BB device 
on the same service provider, for that matter) are handling both 
scenarios.  Some seriously weirdness going on here, and I've asked him 
to raise a ticket with the service provider (Vodafone, IIRC).  Let's see 
what they say.  In the meantime, I'm still looking for a BB to test this 
on :-)

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 27 May 2011, krish wrote:
  Mail sent to r...@foo.com reflects immediately in the user's
  webmail, Outlook, couple of other mail clients, but NOT his BB.
   It may take anything from 15 seconds (acceptable) up to an hour
  (definitely not acceptable) to reach his BB.
 
 Sent from any domain? Even from foo.com, his own email - self test?
 If self test works immediately, then you should check sending email
 from some other domain where u have mailserver access and check logs
 for delay.
 I would also consider if any of the sending domain is greylisted.

Like I said, the mail reaches the server and is visible in all clients 
EXCEPT the BB immediately.  If it were a generic e-mail issue it would 
affect all clients, right?

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 27 May 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
 On 05/27/2011 03:22 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org
 wrote: snip
 
  Mail sent to r...@bar.com reflects immediately in the user's
  webmail, Outlook, couple of other mail clients AND his BB.
  
  Mail sent to r...@foo.com reflects immediately in the user's
  webmail, Outlook, couple of other mail clients, but NOT his BB. 
  It may take anything from 15 seconds (acceptable) up to an hour
  (definitely not acceptable) to reach his BB.
 
  From one of your previous emails related to the scenario you
 mentioned above, I infer that you're using Courier. Also, you are
 using IMAP instead of POP3 since your r...@bar.com receives mail
 instantly.

That is correct.

 There's an IMAP feature called IDLE which enables detection of
 incoming emails. So, as soon as an email comes, the client is
 intimated instantly - provided the client understands IMAP IDLE.
 However, from my experience, Courier's implementation of IMAP IDLE
 is not optimum. I've seen that the client is IMAP IDLE capable, and
 is connected but Courier doesn't intimate the client when a new
 email comes.

I'd go with that, except for one datum: mail sent to the user's account 
on the other domain on the same server reaches his BB immediately.

Figure that one out!

In the meantime I'll see if the service provider mentions IMAP IDLE in 
their report.  If they do, will disable it altogether if possible -- 
what with all the custom scripting et al, it's going to be painful to 
switch IMAP servers at this stage.  (Which reminds me, need to upload 
those scripts somewhere.)

Worst case scenario, will recommend setting all BB accounts to POP3 -- I 
presume that is possible?  Or do RIM/service provider decide which 
protocol they will use on your behalf?

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 28 May 2011, Vivek Kapoor wrote:
 Okay. I wasn't aware of that. However, what I have seen happening
 with blackberry users, in Delhi, India, with both Airtel and
 Vodafone is that they receive mails instantly - even before they
 pop-up in their Outlooks and Thunderbirds. There's not even a 15
 second delay. I don't think BIS would be connecting to the server
 every few seconds (POP3ing or IMAPing - though have not checked the
 log), and the only possible explanation I can think of is IMAP IDLE,
 unless there's something else Blackberry is doing - maybe connecting
 to IMAP and kind of 'refreshing' the mailbox every few seconds.

Just to make it more interesting, here's a message that keeps popping up 
from time to time in the mail logs:

LOGIN FAILED, user=r...@foo.com, ip=[:::178.239.83.191]

The IP belongs to RIM, UK.

However, the user still receives mails addressed to r...@foo.com on his 
BB from time to time.

I mean, WTF?

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[ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

Someone have a Blackberry that they're not using and which they're 
willing to loan/rent out for a week or so?  Clients are complaining 
about Blackberry issues on a mail server I've setup, and I need one to 
replicate and test.

If not, how much would (a) a cheap Blackberry cost and (b) someone be 
willing to buy it for after I've done with it? :)

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 26 May 2011, Smruti wrote:
 2011/5/26 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org
 
  If not, how much would (a) a cheap Blackberry cost and (b) someone
  be willing to buy it for after I've done with it? :)
 
 I am sure you must have looked, still just in case you haven't, try
 ebay.
 
 A quick search shows price range starting from 2000. Though not sure
 what OS version you are looking for, may be you can find a seller in
 Delhi and check it out before buying.

I'm a bit leery about buying stuff online, specially so after the 
CCAvenue debacle.  Call me paranoid and/or a Luddite, but I prefer both 
my social networking (such as it is) and my purchases to be in the real 
world rather than online.  Thanks for the research IAC!

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Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry

2011-05-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 27 May 2011, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 Do not have access to  a Blackberry, nor an idea of what it would
 cost. However, depending on what issues you are facing, it might
 not be enough to have the handset, as it is difficult to debug on
 one.
 
 You could start with trying the application out in a simulator.
 Unfortunately, that means Microsoft Windows, maybe in a
 virtual machine. There are ways of working with the Blackberry
 SDK in Linux, but I have not actually tried them out:
 http://www.slashdev.ca/2008/04/03/blackberry-development-using-linux/
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1492403/how-to-build-blackberry-ap
 plication-on-linux

Heh, the problem isn't critical enough (for me at least) to warrant that 
sort of effort.  In the final run, if the client's BB refuses to behave 
after basic testing from my end, I'm putting the ball in his court.  
After all, SMTP, SMTP AUTH, POP3 and IMAP4 are working fine on all other 
clients, so there's no reason for me to bang my head against a 
proprietary wall for some obscure device.  On the bright side, at least 
they're not using cryPhones.

In passing, that's the difference between setting up a Corporate E-mail 
Service and a Mail Server.  The first would involve solving all his 
problems on all his devices, the latter ends with proving that 
everything works on the server and a handful of clients.  Of course,  
the former is 7 figures, while the latter is just 6!

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Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users

2011-05-23 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 21 May 2011, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
 Yeah, I was also looking around for a command-line tool that will
 allow me to test authentication against PAM.  Neither of the two
 tools I could find on the 'net (pamck and pamauth) seem to be easily
 available, keeping on looking.

For the record...

Looks like testsaslauthd which ships with Cyrus-SASL lets one check user 
ID and password from the command-line.

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Re: [ilugd] Virtual users mapped to system users

2011-05-21 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Saturday 21 May 2011, Varad Gupta wrote:
 Pls see =
 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.imap.courier.general/27589
 
 You can replace the SQL statements with grep/awk on /etc/passwd
 
 These and other similar lines will need to be replaced =
 
 SQL=($(dosql SELECT uid,pw,mpath,mquota FROM passwd WHERE
 uid='$ID'))
 
 
 SQL=($(dosql SELECT uid,pw,mpath,mquota FROM passwd WHERE uid='$ID'
 AND pw='$PW'))
 
 To test if the passwd is correct (auth is OK), you can  use the
 openssl command to generate an md5 hash and match with /etc/shadow
 (here i am assuming you script will run as root and can read
 /etc/shadow). There might be other ways to do this, but this one
 struck me easily.

Yeah, I was also looking around for a command-line tool that will allow 
me to test authentication against PAM.  Neither of the two tools I could 
find on the 'net (pamck and pamauth) seem to be easily available, 
keeping on looking.

As a last resort one could use direct auth against {passwd,shadow}, but 
that would be absolutely the last resort.  I'd rather make a Perl PAM 
script that does that before going into grep  co!

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