Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread tim
To do this just shut the computer off. Now hold down the f8 key and 
turn computer back on. you will hear some beeps, that is good and 
when you can stop. Now hit the 2 key above letters for safe mode. If 
you got your wife there I think there is a mode for restoring there. 
If so chose that one and do your restore from there.


At 09:03 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote:

Okay, how does one go in to safe mode?

Rich
- Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to 
restore your computer to a point in time when it was working correctly.

- Original Message - From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying a Jaws error message

2012-02-05 Thread Greg Washington

Thanks so much for responding.
Greg


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 8:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying a Jaws error message

alt-insert-w brings up the virtual screen.  Highlight what you need and copy
to the clipboard.  Then, hit ESC to get out of the virtual window.

Steve
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From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying a Jaws error message


I am getting a rather complicated error message when I hit insert+v in 
excel on a specific spread sheet.  The insert+v command works fine in other 
spread sheets just not in one particular one.


I would like to copy the error message and paste it into an email to FS 
tech support.  I vaguely remember there was a way to “virtualize”? the 
screen so you could use the cursors to copy a message on the screen.  Can 
anyone tell me if that is possible in Jaws 13.0.638 using window 7?  And 
if so how is it done?


Thanks,
Greg Washington
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Rich Hamel

Steve, the mouse doesn't work and JAWS does not come on either.
Thanks for any thoughts.
I'm very open to any suggestions, especially simple ones.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Uh, Rich.  Another thought, maybe you better make sure the keyboard is 
actually frozen, as that is what your first message implied.  If its not, 
then there are other possibilities, including some pretty simple ones


.
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



That's right.
I did try the windows key with R but did not notice any change.
I did not confirm this with my wife.

I'll try the F8 key and see if this works.

Thanks, everyone,  for all of the suggestions.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from 
within Windows at this point.
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From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Rich,

Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
following so, try at your own risk!

From: 2.g.i
Hi every one

Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.

To save the guessing of when to hit f8  so on to boot into safe
mode, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
in the run box type, msconfig  press enter
the system configuration window will open
either shift tab once to get up into the tabs  use the right arrow,
or use control tab  find the boot tab
its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options  you will find
boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
then tab once more  you will find radio buttons
use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
the internet you have no securety running.
now just tab to the ok button  hit the space bar.
on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
will not recieve this  need to restart the system yourself.
On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
log on sound  then you will hear a ding sound,
the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to 
say

ok.
You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
the desktop  so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
configuration window saying, is in selective mode  so on, I normally
tab to never show this again  check it, then tab to ok
Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
to go back into msconfig into the boot tab  uncheck boot into safe 
mode.

If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.

Hope this helps

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Hamel

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Okay, how does one go in to safe mode?

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
  restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.

 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 
 
  Hi all and a big help request.
  My main computer seems to have frozen.
  When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
  JAWS never starts talking.
  My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
  I've waited for over an hour.
  I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
  The keys and even the mouse do not work.
 
  I do have an up to date McAfee.
 
  Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
 
 
  Thanks so much.
 
  Rich
 
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[JAWS-Users] intermitent odd jaws 13 and sound card problem

2012-02-05 Thread Gary Ketler
Hi everyone,
I am using Jaws 13 on a windows 7  64 bit home premium machine.  I have a 
problem that occurs when a windows 7 sound happens while Jaws is speaking.  The 
windows 7 sound will interrupt Jaws and if speakers and headphones are plugged 
in the sounds will go to the speakers for the length of the sound, and then 
return to headphones.  If speakers are not plugged in, Jaws will disappear 
until a few seconds after the windows sound has occurred.  This also happens 
when I come to an edit box.  Rebooting will cure the problem for a short while 
but it always comes back.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

2012-02-05 Thread Greg Washington
Try this site.  I believe when you begin the download of windows live
essentials you can choose to download only live mail.
HTH
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-other-programs?T1=t2os=othe
r

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Babar
Shahzad
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

A friend wants to have something like out look express in his windows 7 
please help?
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
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are the ones who do.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express

2012-02-05 Thread Steve
It won't work with regular folders, and of course, you can't delete things 
that come with OE like InBox, SentItems, etc.  But, trust me, it definitely 
works on other Outlook Express folders.
- Original Message - 
From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express



its never worked for me
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From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


Trish,

That is a good practice.  But, it isn't necessary in Outlook Express.  You
can delete a folder, even if it contains messages.

Steve
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From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express



hi,

make sure the folder is empty first, then press alt/f arrow to delete, 
you

will be asked if you want to do this y/n

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From: Trish Ebel aima...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:35 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


For the life of me I can't remember how to delete a folder in outlook
express, anyone?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction office 2010 question

2012-02-05 Thread Steve

Muhammad,

Ribbons are harder to work with, you have two choices here.

First, you can learn to work with the ribbons as they are.  There are some 
tutorials on how to work with them; basically, you tab to the larger 
functions and arrow through the options.  The main ribbons are Home, Insert, 
page layout, mailings, references, View, add-ins, etc.


There is some training on ribbons at
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/daisy/XTraOffice2007Intro


Your other option is to use the Jaws Virtual Ribbons feature.  This kind of 
mimicks the old-style menus in those programs that use ribbons.  Ribbons are 
getting wildly popular, as Outlook 2010 and Windows Live version 15 have 
recently switched to it as well.  You can find out about the virtual ribbons 
feature at:

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/daisy/VirtualRibbonMenus.
Don't worry about what people think--they don't do it very often!

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad babarant...@yahoo.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Introduction  office 2010 question



Dear Listers Greetings,
I am a social entrepreneur from Pakistan I have been a regular jaws user 
for last 11 years.
I have been trying to work with MS office 2010 but it seems I need to have 
some guidance as the ribbons are not easy to use with jaws. at least in my 
case that i am using jaws 13.0 . Any help please?


Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
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[JAWS-Users] mirror drivers

2012-02-05 Thread David
Hello;
Can someone tell me where I can find the latest version of the mirror
drivers?
I booted my laptop,
I was told that the mirror drivers not properly installed.
So, I did an re-install, however I'm still getting the same error.
Jaws13 and windows 7.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express

2012-02-05 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Steve,
What is it that won't work, and what do you mean by, regular folders ?
Thanks,
Rick Justice

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From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


It won't work with regular folders, and of course, you can't delete things
that come with OE like InBox, SentItems, etc.  But, trust me, it definitely
works on other Outlook Express folders.
- Original Message - 
From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


 its never worked for me
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


 Trish,

 That is a good practice.  But, it isn't necessary in Outlook Express.  You
 can delete a folder, even if it contains messages.

 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Trish pzoell...@tx.rr.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


 hi,

 make sure the folder is empty first, then press alt/f arrow to delete,
 you
 will be asked if you want to do this y/n

 - Original Message - 
 From: Trish Ebel aima...@verizon.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:35 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] deleting a folder in o express


 For the life of me I can't remember how to delete a folder in outlook
 express, anyone?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem

2012-02-05 Thread Ann Byrne

Hoping you have won this one and can tell us how



Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:53:43 -0600
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
From: Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem

Is there a blank line before row 55, so Excel thinks it should stop 
adding/subtracting

At 03:04 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote:

Yes, Doubled Checked that and it was still set.
Thanks, Bob

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem

Go to format cells with control-1 and be sure the cells are formatted
as numbers, not text.
At 02:14 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote:
Hi All,

I am using the already formatted Checkbook file and it is no longer doing
the calculations. It works fine up to the 55th row and then just the
calculations are not working. It will still put in the stored names. If
anyone could help me getting it working I would appreciate it.  I am using
XP Pro, Jaws 10 and office 2007.

Thanks, Bob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

2012-02-05 Thread Muhammad Babar Shahzad
Thanks for the response. But I after trying personally didn't much like 
windows live mail app as it doesn't announce unread emails as per my 
experience. What about thunderbird with jaws in windows 7?

Thanks,

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world 
are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
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From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7



Try this site.  I believe when you begin the download of windows live
essentials you can choose to download only live mail.
HTH
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-other-programs?T1=t2os=othe
r

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad 
Babar

Shahzad
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

A friend wants to have something like out look express in his windows 7
please help?
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world

are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction office 2010 question

2012-02-05 Thread Muhammad Babar Shahzad

Dear Steve hello,
Thanks very much for the response surely i'll go through these tips.

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world 
are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Introduction  office 2010 question



Muhammad,

Ribbons are harder to work with, you have two choices here.

First, you can learn to work with the ribbons as they are.  There are some 
tutorials on how to work with them; basically, you tab to the larger 
functions and arrow through the options.  The main ribbons are Home, 
Insert, page layout, mailings, references, View, add-ins, etc.


There is some training on ribbons at
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/daisy/XTraOffice2007Intro


Your other option is to use the Jaws Virtual Ribbons feature.  This kind 
of mimicks the old-style menus in those programs that use ribbons. 
Ribbons are getting wildly popular, as Outlook 2010 and Windows Live 
version 15 have recently switched to it as well.  You can find out about 
the virtual ribbons feature at:

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/daisy/VirtualRibbonMenus.
Don't worry about what people think--they don't do it very often!

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad babarant...@yahoo.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Introduction  office 2010 question



Dear Listers Greetings,
I am a social entrepreneur from Pakistan I have been a regular jaws user 
for last 11 years.
I have been trying to work with MS office 2010 but it seems I need to 
have some guidance as the ribbons are not easy to use with jaws. at least 
in my case that i am using jaws 13.0 . Any help please?


Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Rich Hamel

Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that selective start was 
checked. My other options were normal and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
checked.

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I can 
copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you can 
try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
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From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

2012-02-05 Thread Greg Washington
I believe with Jaws 13.0.638 WLM now announces whether email is unread.  I 
am not familiar with Thunderbird.


-Original Message- 
From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

Thanks for the response. But I after trying personally didn't much like
windows live mail app as it doesn't announce unread emails as per my
experience. What about thunderbird with jaws in windows 7?
Thanks,

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world
are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7



Try this site.  I believe when you begin the download of windows live
essentials you can choose to download only live mail.
HTH
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-other-programs?T1=t2os=othe
r

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad 
Babar

Shahzad
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

A friend wants to have something like out look express in his windows 7
please help?
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world

are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

2012-02-05 Thread Steve

Muhammad,

There is something wrong with your experience; possibly you had an older 
version of Jaws that required you to label the graphic for read and 
unread.  The latest version does that automatically as it should.


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad babarant...@yahoo.ca

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7


Thanks for the response. But I after trying personally didn't much like 
windows live mail app as it doesn't announce unread emails as per my 
experience. What about thunderbird with jaws in windows 7?

Thanks,

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7



Try this site.  I believe when you begin the download of windows live
essentials you can choose to download only live mail.
HTH
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-other-programs?T1=t2os=othe
r

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad 
Babar

Shahzad
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

A friend wants to have something like out look express in his windows 7
please help?
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world

are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Steve
Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you unchecked 
the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will kill sound 
every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through the 
startup list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so you 
don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is for 
us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under your 
documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder.  Unless 
you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you won't see 
these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes an 
image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image will 
restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the Windows System 
and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do image files as often, 
but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings folder more 
often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live 
at the expense of everybody else.

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that selective start was 
checked. My other options were normal and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
checked.

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

2012-02-05 Thread Janie Degenshein

With jaws 13 the unread messages are announced
YYou can also use control u to get the unread messages as well



Keep Smiling,
Janie Degenshein
Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have
Access Tech Consultant
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side
www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html
jdege...@comcast.net
-Original Message- 
From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

Thanks for the response. But I after trying personally didn't much like
windows live mail app as it doesn't announce unread emails as per my
experience. What about thunderbird with jaws in windows 7?
Thanks,

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world
are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7



Try this site.  I believe when you begin the download of windows live
essentials you can choose to download only live mail.
HTH
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-other-programs?T1=t2os=othe
r

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad 
Babar

Shahzad
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

A friend wants to have something like out look express in his windows 7
please help?
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world

are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would not 
work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a check disc?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you unchecked 
the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will kill sound 
every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through 
the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so 
you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is 
for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes an 
image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image will 
restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the Windows 
System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do image files 
as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings 
folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else.

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that selective start was 
checked. My other options were normal and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
checked.

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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[JAWS-Users] daily term

2012-02-05 Thread David Ferrin
Daily Term:
stop words

Extremely common words that a search tool sometimes omits, including “and” 
and “the,” among others. Placing the words in quotation marks sometimes 
forces the engine to find them.
David Ferrin Beauty fades but dumbness is forever. Judge Judy 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

2012-02-05 Thread Muhammad Babar Shahzad

Janie and other friends,
Thanks very much for your response.
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world 
are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7



With jaws 13 the unread messages are announced
YYou can also use control u to get the unread messages as well



Keep Smiling,
Janie Degenshein
Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have
Access Tech Consultant
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side
www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html
jdege...@comcast.net
-Original Message- 
From: Muhammad Babar Shahzad

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

Thanks for the response. But I after trying personally didn't much like
windows live mail app as it doesn't announce unread emails as per my
experience. What about thunderbird with jaws in windows 7?
Thanks,

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world

are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington gregw...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7



Try this site.  I believe when you begin the download of windows live
essentials you can choose to download only live mail.
HTH
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-other-programs?T1=t2os=othe
r

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad 
Babar

Shahzad
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email Client windows 7

A friend wants to have something like out look express in his windows 7
please help?
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the 
world

are the ones who do.
Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.


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[JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?

2012-02-05 Thread rich
I have XP home and 12.0 and 13.0.
Ever since my financial web site has been updated, I've had trouble.
Zecco is the site and the home page works fine. However, when I log in the page 
may not load entirely. Then the computer freezes.
The keyboard does not work and my sighted wife says the mouse will not work 
either.
I've tried hitting alt control delete and that does not work.
I try hitting alt F 4 or windows M or, alt tab and there is no response.
My only choice is to manually turn off the computer.
I've taken the advice of JAWS and updated my JAVA and Flash through ninite.

   It seems that once my wife turned off JAWS then got on to the web site and 
was able to manage it.

A funny thing is that the web site works on my second computer which is XP pro.

I wonder if this issue had anything to do with my earlier problem with the 
frozen computer.


I hate having to use the manual button before closing out of a web site in 
order to shut down.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Rich 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Mike Barbara
Hi Steve,

You're right!  But, if his keyboard isn't working how is he going to press 
the F8 key?  I ask this only because I don't know if the Function keys work 
if the main keyboard is not working.  Take care.
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from 
within
  Windows at this point.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


   Hi Rich,
  
   Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
   following so, try at your own risk!
  
   From: 2.g.i
   Hi every one
  
   Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.
  
   To save the guessing of when to hit f8  so on to boot into safe
   mode, you can do the following.
   press windows r to open the run box
   in the run box type, msconfig  press enter
   the system configuration window will open
   either shift tab once to get up into the tabs  use the right arrow,
   or use control tab  find the boot tab
   its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
   once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options  you will find
   boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
   then tab once more  you will find radio buttons
   use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
   again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
   the internet you have no securety running.
   now just tab to the ok button  hit the space bar.
   on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
   will not recieve this  need to restart the system yourself.
   On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
   log on sound  then you will hear a ding sound,
   the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to 
say
   ok.
   You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
   dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
   the desktop  so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
   In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
   configuration window saying, is in selective mode  so on, I normally
   tab to never show this again  check it, then tab to ok
   Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
   to go back into msconfig into the boot tab  uncheck boot into safe 
mode.
   If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.
  
   Hope this helps
  
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
  
  
Okay, how does one go in to safe mode?
  
Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
  
  
 With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
 restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Hi all and a big help request.
 My main computer seems to have frozen.
 When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
 JAWS never starts talking.
 My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
 I've waited for over an hour.
 I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
 The keys and even the mouse do not work.

 I do have an up to date McAfee.

 Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


 Thanks so much.

 Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?

2012-02-05 Thread Flor Lynch

Spyware on the affected computer?

- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?



I have XP home and 12.0 and 13.0.
Ever since my financial web site has been updated, I've had trouble.
Zecco is the site and the home page works fine. However, when I log in 
the page may not load entirely. Then the computer freezes.
The keyboard does not work and my sighted wife says the mouse will not 
work either.

I've tried hitting alt control delete and that does not work.
I try hitting alt F 4 or windows M or, alt tab and there is no 
response.

My only choice is to manually turn off the computer.
I've taken the advice of JAWS and updated my JAVA and Flash through 
ninite.


  It seems that once my wife turned off JAWS then got on to the web 
site and was able to manage it.


A funny thing is that the web site works on my second computer which 
is XP pro.


I wonder if this issue had anything to do with my earlier problem with 
the frozen computer.



I hate having to use the manual button before closing out of a web 
site in order to shut down.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Anything is possible.
I actively run McAfee.
I run Spyware blaster and super anti spyware.

What else can I try?

Rich


Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?



Spyware on the affected computer?

- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?



I have XP home and 12.0 and 13.0.
Ever since my financial web site has been updated, I've had trouble.
Zecco is the site and the home page works fine. However, when I log in 
the page may not load entirely. Then the computer freezes.
The keyboard does not work and my sighted wife says the mouse will not 
work either.

I've tried hitting alt control delete and that does not work.
I try hitting alt F 4 or windows M or, alt tab and there is no 
response.

My only choice is to manually turn off the computer.
I've taken the advice of JAWS and updated my JAVA and Flash through 
ninite.


  It seems that once my wife turned off JAWS then got on to the web 
site and was able to manage it.


A funny thing is that the web site works on my second computer which 
is XP pro.


I wonder if this issue had anything to do with my earlier problem with 
the frozen computer.



I hate having to use the manual button before closing out of a web 
site in order to shut down.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

I got it to work by using the F 8 key.

Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Steve,

You're right!  But, if his keyboard isn't working how is he going to press
the F8 key?  I ask this only because I don't know if the Function keys 
work

if the main keyboard is not working.  Take care.
Mike

 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from
within
 Windows at this point.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike  Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  Hi Rich,
 
  Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
  following so, try at your own risk!
 
  From: 2.g.i
  Hi every one
 
  Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.
 
  To save the guessing of when to hit f8  so on to boot into safe
  mode, you can do the following.
  press windows r to open the run box
  in the run box type, msconfig  press enter
  the system configuration window will open
  either shift tab once to get up into the tabs  use the right arrow,
  or use control tab  find the boot tab
  its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
  once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options  you will find
  boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
  then tab once more  you will find radio buttons
  use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
  again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
  the internet you have no securety running.
  now just tab to the ok button  hit the space bar.
  on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
  will not recieve this  need to restart the system yourself.
  On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
  log on sound  then you will hear a ding sound,
  the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to
say
  ok.
  You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
  dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
  the desktop  so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
  In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
  configuration window saying, is in selective mode  so on, I normally
  tab to never show this again  check it, then tab to ok
  Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
  to go back into msconfig into the boot tab  uncheck boot into safe
mode.
  If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.
 
  Hope this helps
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Rich Hamel

   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 
 
   Okay, how does one go in to safe mode?
 
   Rich
   - Original Message - 
   From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 
 
With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
restore your computer to a point in time when it was working
correctly.
   
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
   
   
Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.
   
I do have an up to date McAfee.
   
Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
   
   
Thanks so much.
   
Rich
   
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?

2012-02-05 Thread Steve

Rich,

It's one of those Jaws issues.  When that happens, try unloading Jaws with 
the window-insert-f4 command.  Then, try reloading.  Better yet, if you 
consistently have problems at that site, consider getting a demo of another 
screen reader, or use www.satogo.com and see if that works.  Occasionally, 
I've ran across websites for some reason or another cause Jaws to freeze. 
It doesn't happen consistently, but it does often enough that I resort to 
another screen-reader.  I don't know if it is the way Jaws processes the 
webpage or whatnot, but it does happen more often than it should.



- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?



I have XP home and 12.0 and 13.0.
Ever since my financial web site has been updated, I've had trouble.
Zecco is the site and the home page works fine. However, when I log in the 
page may not load entirely. Then the computer freezes.
The keyboard does not work and my sighted wife says the mouse will not 
work either.

I've tried hitting alt control delete and that does not work.
I try hitting alt F 4 or windows M or, alt tab and there is no response.
My only choice is to manually turn off the computer.
I've taken the advice of JAWS and updated my JAVA and Flash through 
ninite.


  It seems that once my wife turned off JAWS then got on to the web site 
and was able to manage it.


A funny thing is that the web site works on my second computer which is XP 
pro.


I wonder if this issue had anything to do with my earlier problem with the 
frozen computer.



I hate having to use the manual button before closing out of a web site in 
order to shut down.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Steve

Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a check disc?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you unchecked 
the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will kill sound 
every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through 
the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so 
you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is 
for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes an 
image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image will 
restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the Windows 
System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do image files 
as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings 
folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else.

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that selective start 
was checked. My other options were normal and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
checked.

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get 
a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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[JAWS-Users] Windows Mail

2012-02-05 Thread jerry martin
To All Listers:

I am using Windows Mail, Windows Vista (32 bit system) and JAWS version 11.  I 
was on my Inbox and I was wanting to delete a single message from it.  When I 
pressed the Delete key, I got a message asking me if I wanted to delete the 
messages (plural) from the list.  I have never had this question appear before 
and I am wondering what is going on.  Any information will be gratefully 
appreciated.  Thanks.

Jerry

Length of days with an evil heart only means length of misery.  CS Lewis, The 
Chronicles of Narnia
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Great.
BTW, did you see the weird---, message?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a check disc?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will 
kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you 
go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are 
unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the 
sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else.

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that selective start 
was checked. My other options were normal and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
checked.

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get 
a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Thanks a million!

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?



Rich,

It's one of those Jaws issues.  When that happens, try unloading Jaws with 
the window-insert-f4 command.  Then, try reloading.  Better yet, if you 
consistently have problems at that site, consider getting a demo of 
another screen reader, or use www.satogo.com and see if that works. 
Occasionally, I've ran across websites for some reason or another cause 
Jaws to freeze. It doesn't happen consistently, but it does often enough 
that I resort to another screen-reader.  I don't know if it is the way 
Jaws processes the webpage or whatnot, but it does happen more often than 
it should.



- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Wierd and related? computer freeze?



I have XP home and 12.0 and 13.0.
Ever since my financial web site has been updated, I've had trouble.
Zecco is the site and the home page works fine. However, when I log in 
the page may not load entirely. Then the computer freezes.
The keyboard does not work and my sighted wife says the mouse will not 
work either.

I've tried hitting alt control delete and that does not work.
I try hitting alt F 4 or windows M or, alt tab and there is no response.
My only choice is to manually turn off the computer.
I've taken the advice of JAWS and updated my JAVA and Flash through 
ninite.


  It seems that once my wife turned off JAWS then got on to the web site 
and was able to manage it.


A funny thing is that the web site works on my second computer which is 
XP pro.


I wonder if this issue had anything to do with my earlier problem with 
the frozen computer.



I hate having to use the manual button before closing out of a web site 
in order to shut down.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a check disc?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will 
kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you 
go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are 
unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the 
sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else.

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that selective start 
was checked. My other options were normal and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
checked.

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get 
a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.

[JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread David Ferrin
Just wanted to announce we got our 600th subscriber. I personally can't 
believe we have hit a pretty big mile stone.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Nancy Shackelford
David, that's great!  I don't post on here much, but I do look through and 
read messages about issues that will help me... Thanks!


Nance


Nancy Shackelford
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www.nk-shouseofstuff.biz
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement



Just wanted to announce we got our 600th subscriber. I personally can't
believe we have hit a pretty big mile stone.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail

2012-02-05 Thread tcivi31
You will get this message if the shift key is depressed. Perhaps your shift 
key is sticking.  Tom
- Original Message - 
From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail



To All Listers:

I am using Windows Mail, Windows Vista (32 bit system) and JAWS version 
11.  I was on my Inbox and I was wanting to delete a single message from 
it.  When I pressed the Delete key, I got a message asking me if I wanted 
to delete the messages (plural) from the list.  I have never had this 
question appear before and I am wondering what is going on.  Any 
information will be gratefully appreciated.  Thanks.


Jerry

Length of days with an evil heart only means length of misery.  CS 
Lewis, The Chronicles of Narnia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Linda Vanderlitz

David:

With the way you guys run this List, I strongly suspect you'll hit 1,000 in 
only a little while.  Just keep up the great work.

Linda
If money talks, chocolate sings. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Hamit Campos
Cool man.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Just wanted to announce we got our 600th subscriber. I personally can't
believe we have hit a pretty big mile stone.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Kimsan
So, you should do a  contest for the 1000th member gets a free call from
David, Rick or Bob. I think Bob was the other mod?
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Linda
Vanderlitz
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

David:

With the way you guys run this List, I strongly suspect you'll hit 1,000 in
only a little while.  Just keep up the great work.
Linda
If money talks, chocolate sings. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread REGilman

Wow!  People are already unsubscribing. Smile.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement



So, you should do a  contest for the 1000th member gets a free call from
David, Rick or Bob. I think Bob was the other mod?
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Linda
Vanderlitz
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

David:

With the way you guys run this List, I strongly suspect you'll hit 1,000 
in

only a little while.  Just keep up the great work.
Linda
If money talks, chocolate sings.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem

2012-02-05 Thread REGilman
Well kind of.  I just started a whole new worksheet. I mistakenly did a 
suggestion that was for someone's else's question and finalized the 
worksheet. Smile. One must make sure to read the subject lines

Thanks, Bob.
- Original Message - 
From: Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem



Hoping you have won this one and can tell us how



Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:53:43 -0600
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
From: Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem

Is there a blank line before row 55, so Excel thinks it should stop 
adding/subtracting

At 03:04 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote:

Yes, Doubled Checked that and it was still set.
Thanks, Bob

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Checkbook Problem

Go to format cells with control-1 and be sure the cells are formatted
as numbers, not text.
At 02:14 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote:
Hi All,

I am using the already formatted Checkbook file and it is no longer 
doing

the calculations. It works fine up to the 55th row and then just the
calculations are not working. It will still put in the stored names. If
anyone could help me getting it working I would appreciate it.  I am 
using

XP Pro, Jaws 10 and office 2007.

Thanks, Bob

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[JAWS-Users] C.Crane Radio

2012-02-05 Thread Nancy Shackelford
 

I've been looking at some of their radios, like the CC radio 2 for instance. Is 
there a radio that you would recommend instead of theirs, and if so, tell me a 
bit about it...I'm down in a hole terrane-wise, and in a metal trailer house as 
well... Obviously not good for reception at all, AM or FM!

TIA,

Nance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Janie Degenshein

David Rick and Bob
To all of you I as one of 600 know that what you guys do to manage this 
special corner of our sky is s valuable and important.
I wish you only the best in the coming months to add subscribers to this 
superb resource.

BTW Even my Jaws wants to chime in:
You guys are Ghrhrhrhrhrhrrhrate and
Tehrhrhrhrhrific
and absolutely wondehrhrhrhrhrhrful
And the subscribers wish to conghrhrhrhrhrhrhratulate you for a job well 
done

So rest on your lauhrhrhrhrhrhrels whatever the heck that is?




Keep Smiling,
Janie Degenshein
Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have
Access Tech Consultant
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side
www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html
jdege...@comcast.net
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Just wanted to announce we got our 600th subscriber. I personally can't
believe we have hit a pretty big mile stone.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy


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[JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

2012-02-05 Thread Dang Manh Cuong

Hi listers
I'm new to this list, and have a problem using EdSharp, a text editor written 
by Jamal Mazrui
I allways get this error message when pressing ctrl+h to convert current text 
to html

Could not load file or assembly 'System.Web, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, 
PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot 
find the file specified.

Stack trace:
   at EdSharp.Util.String2Html(String sText)
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, 
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, 
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.PerformClick()
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control 
target, Message msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG 
msg)
Anyone who use this software? please hel[ me
Using windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit, dot net framework 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Kimsan
Hahahah.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of REGilman
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Wow!  People are already unsubscribing. Smile.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@aol.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


 So, you should do a  contest for the 1000th member gets a free call from
 David, Rick or Bob. I think Bob was the other mod?
 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Linda
 Vanderlitz
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:23 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

 David:

 With the way you guys run this List, I strongly suspect you'll hit 1,000 
 in
 only a little while.  Just keep up the great work.
 Linda
 If money talks, chocolate sings.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

2012-02-05 Thread Dean Martineau
Hello, all.  Based on when I subscribed today, I might have been subscriber
#600, or 598, or something.  

I love edSharp, but that particular feature never works for me.  I would
love to use it when converting tidbits to html (see below,) but I can't, so
instead, I use Notetab Lite, www.notetab.com, also free, for the html
conversion process.  It is another powerful text editor, in many ways as
good as edSharp.



Jamal does eventually respond to support requests and sometimes acts on
them.

Dean
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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh Cuong
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


Hi listers
I'm new to this list, and have a problem using EdSharp, a text editor
written by Jamal Mazrui I allways get this error message when pressing
ctrl+h to convert current text to html

Could not load file or assembly 'System.Web, Version=4.0.0.0,
Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

Stack trace:
   at EdSharp.Util.String2Html(String sText)
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e,
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e,
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.PerformClick()
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control
target, Message msg)
   at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG msg)
Anyone who use this software? please hel[ me Using windows 7 Ultimate 32
bit, dot net framework 2.0 Thanks in advance For answers to frequently asked
questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

2012-02-05 Thread David Ferrin
Welcome aboard, you are in fact subscriber number 600.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy
- Original Message - 
From: Dean Martineau d...@topdotenterprises.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


Hello, all.  Based on when I subscribed today, I might have been subscriber
#600, or 598, or something.

I love edSharp, but that particular feature never works for me.  I would
love to use it when converting tidbits to html (see below,) but I can't, so
instead, I use Notetab Lite, www.notetab.com, also free, for the html
conversion process.  It is another powerful text editor, in many ways as
good as edSharp.



Jamal does eventually respond to support requests and sometimes acts on
them.

Dean
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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh Cuong
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


Hi listers
I'm new to this list, and have a problem using EdSharp, a text editor
written by Jamal Mazrui I allways get this error message when pressing
ctrl+h to convert current text to html

Could not load file or assembly 'System.Web, Version=4.0.0.0,
Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

Stack trace:
   at EdSharp.Util.String2Html(String sText)
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e,
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e,
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.PerformClick()
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message msg)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control
target, Message msg)
   at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG msg)
Anyone who use this software? please hel[ me Using windows 7 Ultimate 32
bit, dot net framework 2.0 Thanks in advance For answers to frequently asked
questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Muhammad Babar Shahzad
Friends I am glad to be a part of this supportive community of jfw users and 
also looking forward to have some social friends as well. I and my wife Sana 
Iqbal are social entrepreneurs and we have just got our non-for-profit 
organization registered with the name of Empower Pak (EP) if you like please 
visit: www.ep.org.pk and see if you can join hands with us.

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Muhammad Babar Shahzad, Co-Director  Founder, Empower Pak (EP),
Cell: +92-300--5631220
E-Mail: ba...@ep.org.pk / babarant...@gmail.com
Office Phone: +92-995--616220
Web: www.ep.org.pk
Address: Empower Pak (EP), Street#2,
Farooqi Colony, Railway Road,
Haripur, 22620 (KPK),
Pakistan.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world 
are the ones who do.

Steve Jobs
P Please? consider the environment prior to printing this communication.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:33 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement



Just wanted to announce we got our 600th subscriber. I personally can't
believe we have hit a pretty big mile stone.
David Ferrin
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Judge Judy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

2012-02-05 Thread Dang Manh Cuong
Hello Dean Martineau
I downloaded and installed NoteTab light. I'll try and hope to recieved your 
help when I have problem with this programme
Thanks for your reply.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dean Martineau 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


  Hello, all.  Based on when I subscribed today, I might have been subscriber
  #600, or 598, or something.  

  I love edSharp, but that particular feature never works for me.  I would
  love to use it when converting tidbits to html (see below,) but I can't, so
  instead, I use Notetab Lite, www.notetab.com, also free, for the html
  conversion process.  It is another powerful text editor, in many ways as
  good as edSharp.



  Jamal does eventually respond to support requests and sometimes acts on
  them.

  Dean
  Follow me on Twitter: deantopdot
  To find out about the week's news in adaptive technology, subscribe to Top
  Tech Tidbits for Thursday by sending a blank message to
  -j...@topdotenterprises.com. (make sure you have 4 t's in the Address 

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh Cuong
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:50 PM
  To: Jaws Users
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


  Hi listers
  I'm new to this list, and have a problem using EdSharp, a text editor
  written by Jamal Mazrui I allways get this error message when pressing
  ctrl+h to convert current text to html

  Could not load file or assembly 'System.Web, Version=4.0.0.0,
  Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its
  dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

  Stack trace:
 at EdSharp.Util.String2Html(String sText)
 at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e,
  ToolStripItemEventType met)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e,
  ToolStripItemEventType met)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.PerformClick()
 at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message msg, Keys keyData)
 at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message msg, Keys keyData)
 at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message msg)
 at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control
  target, Message msg)
 at
  System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG msg)
  Anyone who use this software? please hel[ me Using windows 7 Ultimate 32
  bit, dot net framework 2.0 Thanks in advance For answers to frequently asked
  questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

2012-02-05 Thread Van Der Walt Riana
Hello,

If you have Ms Word and open the text file with  that, and save as html,
there are several save as webpage formats to choose from, it could
perhaps solve the problem.

I'm still using Office 2003, but I'm almost sure the feature is
available in later versions?

Regards,

Riana

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dean
Martineau
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

Hello, all.  Based on when I subscribed today, I might have been
subscriber
#600, or 598, or something.  

I love edSharp, but that particular feature never works for me.  I would
love to use it when converting tidbits to html (see below,) but I can't,
so
instead, I use Notetab Lite, www.notetab.com, also free, for the html
conversion process.  It is another powerful text editor, in many ways as
good as edSharp.



Jamal does eventually respond to support requests and sometimes acts on
them.

Dean
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-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh
Cuong
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


Hi listers
I'm new to this list, and have a problem using EdSharp, a text editor
written by Jamal Mazrui I allways get this error message when pressing
ctrl+h to convert current text to html

Could not load file or assembly 'System.Web, Version=4.0.0.0,
Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

Stack trace:
   at EdSharp.Util.String2Html(String sText)
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key,
EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs
e,
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e,
ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.PerformClick()
   at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message msg, Keys keyData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message msg)
   at
System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control
target, Message msg)
   at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG
msg)
Anyone who use this software? please hel[ me Using windows 7 Ultimate 32
bit, dot net framework 2.0 Thanks in advance For answers to frequently
asked
questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2012-02-05 Thread Kimmie.
It just shows you are doing good work, and this is the most informative list
I've come across. Keep it up.  Now for the thousand coming up. 

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 3:34 p.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Just wanted to announce we got our 600th subscriber. I personally can't
believe we have hit a pretty big mile stone.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

2012-02-05 Thread Dang Manh Cuong
I know that method, but it create an unaccessible html file. I don't know how 
to fix it.
Thanks anyway
  - Original Message - 
  From: Van Der Walt Riana 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


  Hello,

  If you have Ms Word and open the text file with  that, and save as html,
  there are several save as webpage formats to choose from, it could
  perhaps solve the problem.

  I'm still using Office 2003, but I'm almost sure the feature is
  available in later versions?

  Regards,

  Riana

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dean
  Martineau
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:03 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question

  Hello, all.  Based on when I subscribed today, I might have been
  subscriber
  #600, or 598, or something.  

  I love edSharp, but that particular feature never works for me.  I would
  love to use it when converting tidbits to html (see below,) but I can't,
  so
  instead, I use Notetab Lite, www.notetab.com, also free, for the html
  conversion process.  It is another powerful text editor, in many ways as
  good as edSharp.



  Jamal does eventually respond to support requests and sometimes acts on
  them.

  Dean
  Follow me on Twitter: deantopdot
  To find out about the week's news in adaptive technology, subscribe to
  Top
  Tech Tidbits for Thursday by sending a blank message to
  -j...@topdotenterprises.com. (make sure you have 4 t's in the
  Address 

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dang Manh
  Cuong
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:50 PM
  To: Jaws Users
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Edsharp question


  Hi listers
  I'm new to this list, and have a problem using EdSharp, a text editor
  written by Jamal Mazrui I allways get this error message when pressing
  ctrl+h to convert current text to html

  Could not load file or assembly 'System.Web, Version=4.0.0.0,
  Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its
  dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

  Stack trace:
 at EdSharp.Util.String2Html(String sText)
 at EdSharp.MdiFrame.menuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key,
  EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs
  e,
  ToolStripItemEventType met)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e,
  ToolStripItemEventType met)
 at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.PerformClick()
 at EdSharp.MdiFrame.ProcessCmdKey_Helper(Message msg, Keys keyData)
 at EdSharp.HomerRichTextBox.ProcessCmdKey(Message msg, Keys keyData)
 at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessMessage(Message msg)
 at
  System.Windows.Forms.Control.PreProcessControlMessageInternal(Control
  target, Message msg)
 at
  System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.PreTranslateMessage(MSG
  msg)
  Anyone who use this software? please hel[ me Using windows 7 Ultimate 32
  bit, dot net framework 2.0 Thanks in advance For answers to frequently
  asked
  questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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