Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users Programs Page

2015-02-25 Thread Tom Clary
 i also use chrome for a few things, also use jaws 12, but did you
know that jaws isn't supposed to work on jaws 12?

On 2/25/15, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov wrote:
 Chrome is a real cutie.  Not only doesn't it work very well with JAWS, it
 causes it to hang upon exit, and can cost your activation. I'm dealing with
 that problem right now.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Brent Harding
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:19 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users
 Programs Page

 At least in Jaws 12 and 13, Chrome seems to be almost as good as Firefox as
 far as being able to browse with it, except for every now and then when the
 virtual buffer doesn't kick in to let you read the page, but the problem
 with some of these programs' installers is that they set the stuff as
 default which is likely not what most wanted to happen. Maybe some of the
 checkboxes to turn it off don't speak either. I remember it's either
 CCleaner or Advanced System Care that turns inline autocomplete back on in
 Internet Explorer when you run it, which for using Jaws is one of the most
 annoying things having it speak partial ends of words as you try to type in
 the address bar, so I keep turning it off.

 - Original Message -
 From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users
 Programs Page


 Try insert+space bar, o, then w. You can sometimes get further
 information by using this technique. If after doing this you see
 something like a faster way to brows or anything other than what you
 see using conventional methods, click on it. It will then put you in a
 web page where you can select whether or not to install Chrome and the
 toolbar.

 Shane

 On 2/16/2015 6:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 That's the problem.  I could not find any check box for installing
 Google Chrome anywhere on the downloader interface, and I checked
 each page carefully with the JAWS cursor.  I wound up removing it
 using Revo Uninstaller.  If anyone else can find the elusive check
 box for installing Chrome, please let me knoe how to locate it so
 that I do not get screwed over again the next time I install a new
 version of CCleaner.

 Gerald


 - Original Message - From: Dialup @ 56k
 dialup...@bigpond.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From
 JAWS Users Programs Page


 Gerald,
 Unfortunately that's quite normal with 'modern' software installers.
 It's either Ask or Chrome or a few similar bun unnecessary, but you
 have the option to uncheck the install box during setup, IF of
 course you can find it.
 So now you can use C Cleaner to un install chrome.
 Glen

 ***

 On 17-Feb-15 9:41 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 I just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner, version 5.0.2,
 from the JAWS Users programs page, and received a very nasty
 surprise.  In addition to installing CCleaner, Google Chrome was
 also installed, much to my chagrin.  Using the JAWS cursor to
 examine the installation options in the user interface, I did not
 come across any check box or other means of preventing Google
 Chrome from being installed along with CCleaner.  I do not remember
 having this problem in the past, so it looks like Puriform is now
 forcing Chrome down your throat whether you want it or not.  Chrome
 is still not especially JAWS accessible, and removing it is a real
 pain. Therefore, I suggest that a warning be added to the CCleaner
 download link that downloading and installing CCleaner will also
 result in the installation of Google Chrome, which is nothing but
 unwanted crapware for most JAWS users.

 Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] trying to read PDF files from a Yahoo groups filesection

2015-02-25 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
I don't know what the practical size limit is, but you can start reading with 
the conversion in process.  Just make sure it's all done before trying to copy 
to the clipboard.  That old Kenwood manual was pretty large, compared to the 
average newsletter or memo yu're liable to encounter at the office.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] trying to read PDF files from a Yahoo groups 
filesection

There is the JAWS 16 convenient OCR feature. I'm not sure how it would handle 
large pdf's, but it's fine on smaller ones such as letters. I'd like if it 
could handle mixed-format pdf's, i.e., those containing images of text and 
straight text. I put that forward to FS, and it may have been passed on to 
whomever is responsible for developing the document OCR.

(To be clear, I'd distinguish between 'graphic' and 'image' pdf's. Graphic 
could refer to purely pictorial, with no text in it.)

-Original Message-
From: Shoshana Hathaway
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] trying to read PDF files from a Yahoo groups 
filesection

Thanks, Flor!  I knew about Open Bok and Kurzweil, of course, but not the 
others.  I'm not so much looking for ways to scan material from print and read 
it as I am to be able to convert graphic PDF files to text PDF files that I can 
read, if that is even possible.  But I'll look into some of those off the shelf 
packages, (smile).

Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users Programs Page

2015-02-25 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Chrome is a real cutie.  Not only doesn't it work very well with JAWS, it 
causes it to hang upon exit, and can cost your activation. I'm dealing with 
that problem right now.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users 
Programs Page

At least in Jaws 12 and 13, Chrome seems to be almost as good as Firefox as far 
as being able to browse with it, except for every now and then when the virtual 
buffer doesn't kick in to let you read the page, but the problem with some of 
these programs' installers is that they set the stuff as default which is 
likely not what most wanted to happen. Maybe some of the checkboxes to turn it 
off don't speak either. I remember it's either CCleaner or Advanced System Care 
that turns inline autocomplete back on in Internet Explorer when you run it, 
which for using Jaws is one of the most annoying things having it speak partial 
ends of words as you try to type in the address bar, so I keep turning it off.

- Original Message -
From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users 
Programs Page


 Try insert+space bar, o, then w. You can sometimes get further 
 information by using this technique. If after doing this you see 
 something like a faster way to brows or anything other than what you 
 see using conventional methods, click on it. It will then put you in a 
 web page where you can select whether or not to install Chrome and the 
 toolbar.

 Shane

 On 2/16/2015 6:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 That's the problem.  I could not find any check box for installing 
 Google Chrome anywhere on the downloader interface, and I checked 
 each page carefully with the JAWS cursor.  I wound up removing it 
 using Revo Uninstaller.  If anyone else can find the elusive check 
 box for installing Chrome, please let me knoe how to locate it so 
 that I do not get screwed over again the next time I install a new version 
 of CCleaner.

 Gerald


 - Original Message - From: Dialup @ 56k 
 dialup...@bigpond.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From 
 JAWS Users Programs Page


 Gerald,
 Unfortunately that's quite normal with 'modern' software installers.
 It's either Ask or Chrome or a few similar bun unnecessary, but you 
 have the option to uncheck the install box during setup, IF of 
 course you can find it.
 So now you can use C Cleaner to un install chrome.
 Glen

 ***

 On 17-Feb-15 9:41 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 I just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner, version 5.0.2, 
 from the JAWS Users programs page, and received a very nasty 
 surprise.  In addition to installing CCleaner, Google Chrome was 
 also installed, much to my chagrin.  Using the JAWS cursor to 
 examine the installation options in the user interface, I did not 
 come across any check box or other means of preventing Google 
 Chrome from being installed along with CCleaner.  I do not remember 
 having this problem in the past, so it looks like Puriform is now 
 forcing Chrome down your throat whether you want it or not.  Chrome 
 is still not especially JAWS accessible, and removing it is a real 
 pain. Therefore, I suggest that a warning be added to the CCleaner 
 download link that downloading and installing CCleaner will also 
 result in the installation of Google Chrome, which is nothing but unwanted 
 crapware for most JAWS users.

 Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

2015-02-25 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Amen!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of John Justice
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

Holger,
Extremely urgent!
1.  Do not call that number.  Your system has been contaminated by malware.
If you call the number, someone will offer to fix your system for hundreds of 
dollars USD.
2.  You have two choices. 
A:  Create a system Restore point and take it back at least a month.
B:  Contact Microsoft Disability Support and they will assist in removing the 
malware.

This kind of problem is unfortunately  quite common these days.
NOTE:  If this isn't your problem, please relay it to the person with the 
Kidnap malware issue.

According to Microsoft Disability Support, the only effective way to remove 
something like that is with a really strong anti-virus program like Hitman Pro 
or Avast.

I'd like to see someone develop a piece of software that would find these 
people and then destroy their computers.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

it is accessible? Do I download it and save it and run it? 

-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] message from web page 

Look at the list notes from today from Mike Boyd. Download and run hitman pro.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] message from web page

It came back. message stating I need to call 888-283-5495. I need a good 
antivirus program that will delete it or fix my IE. I went to control shift 
scape and deleted iexplore.exe user 00 and it closed my PC.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Pauline

Hi Kimsan,

Try this and see if it helps.

In your music library you will find an iTunes folder.
Open that, and arrow down one time.
You should find a folder named iTunes Media.
Open that, and find Automatically add to iTunes.
Open that folder, and place your  selected songs in that folder.

I am doing this from memory, so the names of the folders may not be exact, 
but they should be close enough for you to find what you want.

Pauline


- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


I need what hair I have left, lol!
I, however, managed to sync music to my phone using instructions from
another lister, I think he's on here, if not, it was from the blind tech
list; however, the issue I had was I wanted to sync a few songs, and not the
entire library.  Now I have 900 songs on my phone lol.
If someone can provide steps using jaws how to sync a few songs at a time
and not the entire library, that would be nice.
Thank you.

 Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been on my
computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message -
From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging trying to
put music onto my phone lol.
I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows 8
 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the time
 to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Kimsan
As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs play
when I do that.
 Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says sync
entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync are
selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but since
iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

I hope that helps a little.

On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been 
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging 
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be 
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4 
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows 
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the 
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWSUsers Programs Page

2015-02-25 Thread Mike B.
Hi Ted,

It doesn't matter where you get CCleaner from.  Even if you get it from, 
Piriform, the people that make CCleaner that's going to happen.  When you 
install CCleaner it's necessary to read all the screens thoroughly using the 
Jaws cursor  if you do this on the, Install button, you would see 
checkboxes that need to be unchecked so Chrome  the Google toolbar don't 
get installed.  But, there is a great work around for this, a program called 
Unchecky!  Information is below:


Anyone who is concerned about unintentionally installing promotional 
software may be interested in trying Unchecky.

http://unchecky.com/

It runs in the background as a service and monitors for recognized 
installers.  It then automatically unchecks any checkboxes related to 
installing toolbars,
browsers, and similar unwanted products.  I have not thoroughly tested the 
program and it is not guaranteed to catch everything, but there have already
been several updates since the initial release so I'm sure it's detection 
rate will improve.

I've been using the program described above for quite awhile now  I've 
never had a problem with the Chrome or the Google toolbar since I installed 
it.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWSUsers 
Programs Page


Chrome is a real cutie.  Not only doesn't it work very well with JAWS, it 
causes it to hang upon exit, and can cost your activation. I'm dealing with 
that problem right now.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users 
Programs Page

At least in Jaws 12 and 13, Chrome seems to be almost as good as Firefox as 
far as being able to browse with it, except for every now and then when the 
virtual buffer doesn't kick in to let you read the page, but the problem 
with some of these programs' installers is that they set the stuff as 
default which is likely not what most wanted to happen. Maybe some of the 
checkboxes to turn it off don't speak either. I remember it's either 
CCleaner or Advanced System Care that turns inline autocomplete back on in 
Internet Explorer when you run it, which for using Jaws is one of the most 
annoying things having it speak partial ends of words as you try to type in 
the address bar, so I keep turning it off.

- Original Message -
From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users 
Programs Page


 Try insert+space bar, o, then w. You can sometimes get further
 information by using this technique. If after doing this you see
 something like a faster way to brows or anything other than what you
 see using conventional methods, click on it. It will then put you in a
 web page where you can select whether or not to install Chrome and the 
 toolbar.

 Shane

 On 2/16/2015 6:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 That's the problem.  I could not find any check box for installing
 Google Chrome anywhere on the downloader interface, and I checked
 each page carefully with the JAWS cursor.  I wound up removing it
 using Revo Uninstaller.  If anyone else can find the elusive check
 box for installing Chrome, please let me knoe how to locate it so
 that I do not get screwed over again the next time I install a new 
 version of CCleaner.

 Gerald


 - Original Message - From: Dialup @ 56k
 dialup...@bigpond.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From
 JAWS Users Programs Page


 Gerald,
 Unfortunately that's quite normal with 'modern' software installers.
 It's either Ask or Chrome or a few similar bun unnecessary, but you
 have the option to uncheck the install box during setup, IF of
 course you can find it.
 So now you can use C Cleaner to un install chrome.
 Glen

 ***

 On 17-Feb-15 9:41 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

 I just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner, version 5.0.2,
 from the JAWS Users programs page, and received a very nasty
 surprise.  In addition to installing CCleaner, Google Chrome was
 also installed, much to my chagrin.  Using the JAWS cursor to
 examine the installation options in the user interface, I did not
 come across any check box or other means of preventing Google
 Chrome from being installed along with CCleaner.  I do not remember
 having this problem in the past, so it looks like Puriform is now
 forcing Chrome down your throat whether you want it or not.  Chrome
 is still not especially JAWS accessible, and removing it 

[JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7 
laptop?

Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws on 
start menu uninstall?

Thanks for any help,

Trish 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Alan Robbins
Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is whether 
you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always choose no to 
this because if there are other programs relying on those shared components 
they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list has other information, 
or does not find what I am saying correct, please clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7 
 laptop?
 
 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws on 
 start menu uninstall?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Trish 
 
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Kimsan Song
 I made some progress, but I need to review how I made it happen lol.
ITunes makes me want to scream.  I managed to get a few songs on, but
once more, after I did it, I was like how did that happen. lol.
I'll try the control enter thing.

On 2/25/15, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that
 doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control
 enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell
 whether a given song is checked or not.

 On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
 with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs
 play
 when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
 artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
 sync
 entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync
 are
 selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but
 since
 iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Virgil Cook
I've uninstalled Jaws from the search menu.  The Windows key takes you
there.  Then type uninstall jaws --- and follow the prompts.  It work well
for me.


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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:11 AM
To: Jaws Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
laptop?

Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws on
start menu uninstall?

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[JAWS-Users] windows updates

2015-02-25 Thread anna vimini

Hi all,
when a windows update fails does windows update try to instal it again 
until it succeeds ?

thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Kimsan Song
 Pauline:
Thanks for that. I just put a song in the automatically add to iTunes
folder; however, when pressing enter on that folder, there is another
folder called not added.  What's that for. We are leaving the
guidelines I presume, since we are now just talking about iTunes, so
please feel free to email me off list at kimsans...@gmail.com.
Thank you!

On 2/25/15, Pauline rpdal...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Kimsan,

 Try this and see if it helps.

 In your music library you will find an iTunes folder.
 Open that, and arrow down one time.
 You should find a folder named iTunes Media.
 Open that, and find Automatically add to iTunes.
 Open that folder, and place your  selected songs in that folder.

 I am doing this from memory, so the names of the folders may not be exact,
 but they should be close enough for you to find what you want.

 Pauline


 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 I need what hair I have left, lol!
 I, however, managed to sync music to my phone using instructions from
 another lister, I think he's on here, if not, it was from the blind tech
 list; however, the issue I had was I wanted to sync a few songs, and not
 the
 entire library.  Now I have 900 songs on my phone lol.
 If someone can provide steps using jaws how to sync a few songs at a time
 and not the entire library, that would be nice.
 Thank you.

  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:06 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been on my
 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging trying to
 put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows 8
 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the time
 to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

2015-02-25 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Is the free version just a trial?  I've had it with AVG.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

Hi,
You missed the CHRISTMAS SPECIAL.
Two years for $24 of the hitman Pro.
The free version is where I first started, Very jaws acessible..

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

so how much for it? I ran it 2 times and found nothing. I am not sure it is 
working. I Like I said it came back. Tomorrow after I come back from work, I

will callmicrosoft and see if they can help.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

Yes, this is what happened to me as well. Tom, take note

Al

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

I spoke about my windows update issues in an earlier email.
So, I ran the hit man pro for 64 bit and no threats were found which is of 
course good news. The windows update failure continues. However,  I still might 
buy this product.

As for when I use the Jaws cursor I noticed if you check the license agreement 
I could not tab to next so I had to use the jaws cursor at that point to find 
the next button at the bottom of the screen. Once I did that everything became 
accessible with the PC cursor.

On 2/18/2015 7:49 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:
 Tom,

 I don't remember exactly but I am going to run it on my
wife's machine
 tomorrow. I'll try to pay attention and report back.
Otherwise, you
 could call Microsoft accessibility and they'll run it for
you

 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Tom
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:15 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

 and when exactly do we use the jaws cursor?

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Robbins
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] hitman pro

 No, you need to finish installing and running the program.
 You may need to use your jaws cursor some to do this but
tab around
 and use the jaws cursor and you will find different things
that need
 to be answered and then you click on the next button and
just keep
 following the prompts it will take you through it

 Best,
 Alan

 On Feb 17, 2015, at 17:52, Kevin Lee klee...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I downloaded the 64 bits saved it to my download folder
on
 my computer.
 then I closed the internet went to my download folder
 found hitman pro
 x
 64 double clicked on it to run, got security question do
 you want to
 run or cancel I ran the program got a next button, then a
 close button
 and that was it!  did it scan what happened?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Jim Pursley
You describe the angst of a careful but intrepid JAWS user.  My turn 
will come next year when I uninstall J15.  The talking installer these 
days is separate from the JAWS program and need to be uninstalled 
individually.  I had a bunch of them in a string before recently 
removing them.  Just clutter with no damage.


On 2/25/2015 2:48 PM, Trish wrote:

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and stuck, thanks to
window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall J13 either,
sigh
I do like it through the programs/features better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when not even j12
full version was, that's an embarrassing mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only, so I needed to
do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this was cause of my
first attemp going through the jaws uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40
minute demo has expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just went through P/F,
and heck didn't even loose speech while that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
clarify.

  Best,
Alan


On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
laptop?

Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws on
start menu uninstall?

Thanks for any help,

Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Alan Robbins
Trish,

Glad all worked out. I always get confused but I believe in
the past I always made sure I removed the version of JAWS
before that versions talking installer or JAWS went silent
when I went to uninstall the versions that I'd already
removed the talking installer

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini
heart attack. 
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and
stuck, thanks to window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall
J13 either, sigh I do like it through the programs/features
better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when
not even j12 full version was, that's an embarrassing
mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only,
so I needed to do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this
was cause of my first attemp going through the jaws
uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 minute demo has
expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just
went through P/F, and heck didn't even loose speech while
that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important
thing is 
whether you want to uninstall the shared components.
Personally, I always 
choose no to this because if there are other programs
relying on those 
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone
else on the list 
has other information, or does not find what I am saying
correct, please 
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish
patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from
my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or,
through Jaws on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users Programs Page

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Lee

huh, jaws isn't suppose to work on jaws 12?

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users 
Programs Page


i also use chrome for a few things, also use jaws 12, but did you
know that jaws isn't supposed to work on jaws 12?

On 2/25/15, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov wrote:

Chrome is a real cutie.  Not only doesn't it work very well with JAWS, it
causes it to hang upon exit, and can cost your activation. I'm dealing 
with

that problem right now.

Ted

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS 
Users

Programs Page

At least in Jaws 12 and 13, Chrome seems to be almost as good as Firefox 
as
far as being able to browse with it, except for every now and then when 
the

virtual buffer doesn't kick in to let you read the page, but the problem
with some of these programs' installers is that they set the stuff as
default which is likely not what most wanted to happen. Maybe some of the
checkboxes to turn it off don't speak either. I remember it's either
CCleaner or Advanced System Care that turns inline autocomplete back on in
Internet Explorer when you run it, which for using Jaws is one of the most
annoying things having it speak partial ends of words as you try to type 
in

the address bar, so I keep turning it off.

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From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS 
Users

Programs Page



Try insert+space bar, o, then w. You can sometimes get further
information by using this technique. If after doing this you see
something like a faster way to brows or anything other than what you
see using conventional methods, click on it. It will then put you in a
web page where you can select whether or not to install Chrome and the
toolbar.

Shane

On 2/16/2015 6:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:


That's the problem.  I could not find any check box for installing
Google Chrome anywhere on the downloader interface, and I checked
each page carefully with the JAWS cursor.  I wound up removing it
using Revo Uninstaller.  If anyone else can find the elusive check
box for installing Chrome, please let me knoe how to locate it so
that I do not get screwed over again the next time I install a new
version of CCleaner.

Gerald


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dialup...@bigpond.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From
JAWS Users Programs Page



Gerald,
Unfortunately that's quite normal with 'modern' software installers.
It's either Ask or Chrome or a few similar bun unnecessary, but you
have the option to uncheck the install box during setup, IF of
course you can find it.
So now you can use C Cleaner to un install chrome.
Glen

***

On 17-Feb-15 9:41 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


I just downloaded the latest version of CCleaner, version 5.0.2,
from the JAWS Users programs page, and received a very nasty
surprise.  In addition to installing CCleaner, Google Chrome was
also installed, much to my chagrin.  Using the JAWS cursor to
examine the installation options in the user interface, I did not
come across any check box or other means of preventing Google
Chrome from being installed along with CCleaner.  I do not remember
having this problem in the past, so it looks like Puriform is now
forcing Chrome down your throat whether you want it or not.  Chrome
is still not especially JAWS accessible, and removing it is a real
pain. Therefore, I suggest that a warning be added to the CCleaner
download link that downloading and installing CCleaner will also
result in the installation of Google Chrome, which is nothing but
unwanted crapware for most JAWS users.

Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner FromJAWSUsers Programs Page

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Lee
when I downloaded ccleaner from about.com then I installed it the last page 
before installing was just install a desktop shortcut, install start menu 
shortcut, enable ccleaner to open in recycle bin, let ccleaner open from the 
recycle bin, enable smart cookie scan then when I tabbed I got advanced 
which only was use ccleaner for all users of this computer or use ccleaner 
just for me, I tabbed and returned to the select additional instal which was 
desktop shortcut start menu shortcuts etc I got no option to install chrome. 
I installed and chrome was not there.  I don't know if it depends where you 
download ccleaner from.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner FromJAWSUsers 
Programs Page


Hi Ted,

It doesn't matter where you get CCleaner from.  Even if you get it from,
Piriform, the people that make CCleaner that's going to happen.  When you
install CCleaner it's necessary to read all the screens thoroughly using the
Jaws cursor  if you do this on the, Install button, you would see
checkboxes that need to be unchecked so Chrome  the Google toolbar don't
get installed.  But, there is a great work around for this, a program called
Unchecky!  Information is below:


Anyone who is concerned about unintentionally installing promotional
software may be interested in trying Unchecky.

http://unchecky.com/

It runs in the background as a service and monitors for recognized
installers.  It then automatically unchecks any checkboxes related to
installing toolbars,
browsers, and similar unwanted products.  I have not thoroughly tested the
program and it is not guaranteed to catch everything, but there have already
been several updates since the initial release so I'm sure it's detection
rate will improve.

I've been using the program described above for quite awhile now  I've
never had a problem with the Chrome or the Google toolbar since I installed
it.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWSUsers
Programs Page


Chrome is a real cutie.  Not only doesn't it work very well with JAWS, it
causes it to hang upon exit, and can cost your activation. I'm dealing with
that problem right now.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users
Programs Page

At least in Jaws 12 and 13, Chrome seems to be almost as good as Firefox as
far as being able to browse with it, except for every now and then when the
virtual buffer doesn't kick in to let you read the page, but the problem
with some of these programs' installers is that they set the stuff as
default which is likely not what most wanted to happen. Maybe some of the
checkboxes to turn it off don't speak either. I remember it's either
CCleaner or Advanced System Care that turns inline autocomplete back on in
Internet Explorer when you run it, which for using Jaws is one of the most
annoying things having it speak partial ends of words as you try to type in
the address bar, so I keep turning it off.

- Original Message -
From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From JAWS Users
Programs Page



Try insert+space bar, o, then w. You can sometimes get further
information by using this technique. If after doing this you see
something like a faster way to brows or anything other than what you
see using conventional methods, click on it. It will then put you in a
web page where you can select whether or not to install Chrome and the
toolbar.

Shane

On 2/16/2015 6:01 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:


That's the problem.  I could not find any check box for installing
Google Chrome anywhere on the downloader interface, and I checked
each page carefully with the JAWS cursor.  I wound up removing it
using Revo Uninstaller.  If anyone else can find the elusive check
box for installing Chrome, please let me knoe how to locate it so
that I do not get screwed over again the next time I install a new
version of CCleaner.

Gerald


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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Warning About Downloading CCleaner From
JAWS Users Programs Page



Gerald,
Unfortunately that's quite normal with 'modern' software installers.
It's either Ask or Chrome or a few similar bun unnecessary, but you
have the option to uncheck the install box 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Virgil Cook
Good advice.  I never delete the shared components.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7 
 laptop?
 
 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through 
 Jaws on start menu uninstall?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Trish
 
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Kimber Gardner
No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that
doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control
enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell
whether a given song is checked or not.

On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
 with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs play
 when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
 artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
 sync
 entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync are
 selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but since
 iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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[JAWS-Users] Excel 10 Windows 8.1

2015-02-25 Thread sandy stegmayer
I thought I saw this discussed a while back but I can’t find it so... Using 
Excel 10 on my Windows 8.1 laptop... When I use F2 to open and edit a cell, 
Jaws does not say the character when I use the left/right arrows. It will say 
the entire contents when I hit the up/down arrows. I know the arrows are moving 
the cursor because It will tell me the name of the character if I 
backspace/erase it. I do not have this problem when using Excel on my Window 7 
machine. I do however have arrow problems on both laptops when using OneNote 
but no problem on either when using Word. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Sandy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

2015-02-25 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
I'm always surprised when I see that key being used for anything; it goes back 
to the early days of DOS, and is explained in most manuals of the period.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is


Did you find the Pause/Break key? It will be located on the right hand end of 
your function keys, F1 - F12, and should be next to the Print Screen key.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net




-Original Message-
From: j Bron
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of j Bron
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

Pardon me for sounding technologicly challenged, but I am.  Where is the pause 
button?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

Tom,

After pressing the Windows + Pause key combination, just tab down to 
Performance Information and Tools, and press enter on this. All of your 
computer's information will be displayed.

Mike







Best,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net
-Original Message-
From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

thank you, but after hitting these keys, go to the jaws cursor

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

For any version of windows simply hit the key combination of windows pause to 
get your system properties.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] finding what bit size my laptop is

   I know this has been asked numerous times, but how can I find out what bit 
size my laptop is? jaws 12, vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini heart attack. 
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and stuck, thanks to 
window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall J13 either, 
sigh
I do like it through the programs/features better though. I did uninstall 
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when not even j12 
full version was, that's an embarrassing mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only, so I needed to 
do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this was cause of my 
first attemp going through the jaws uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 
minute demo has expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here, 
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just went through P/F, 
and heck didn't even loose speech while that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is 
whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always 
choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those 
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list 
has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please 
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
well alrighty then, you convinced me!

- Original Message - 
From: Mike O'Brien mike23...@verizon.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Hi Trish

There is only one copy of the shared components that is used by all versions
of JAWS.  If you delete the shared components for any one version, you have
deleted the shared components for all versions and none of them will work.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 01:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

I'm not sure keeping all those shared components of prior versions is really
necessary, now that I think about it.

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,

Glad all worked out. I always get confused but I believe in
the past I always made sure I removed the version of JAWS
before that versions talking installer or JAWS went silent
when I went to uninstall the versions that I'd already
removed the talking installer

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini
heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and
stuck, thanks to window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall
J13 either, sigh I do like it through the programs/features
better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when
not even j12 full version was, that's an embarrassing
mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only,
so I needed to do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this
was cause of my first attemp going through the jaws
uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 minute demo has
expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just
went through P/F, and heck didn't even loose speech while
that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important
thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components.
Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs
relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone
else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying
correct, please
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish
patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from
my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or,
through Jaws on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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[JAWS-Users] Guide for Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
I think it would be a good idea if it's not a lot of trouble to put on your 
web site David, a file explaining to us nervous types how and what to 
uninstall of a prior version of Jaws.
A guideline however you wanted to do it, but I personally could benefit from 
it, especially if it's been awhile since I last performed the task.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Maria Campbell
I'm still using 15 as well because 16 never installed right, even after 
consulting FS.  16 installed as if already merged with 15 or who knows 
what version, since my 4-year old laptop started with JAWS 9 or 10.
16 never went down to that normal slow rate of speech at first 
installation, and all the keys that I usually silence at 
installation--tab, escape, enter, were already silent.

Shared components, ugh.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 2/25/2015 12:56 PM, Trish wrote:

I'm keeping j15, I rather like it just fine. but I need 16 for that pdf
issues

- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


You describe the angst of a careful but intrepid JAWS user.  My turn
will come next year when I uninstall J15.  The talking installer these
days is separate from the JAWS program and need to be uninstalled
individually.  I had a bunch of them in a string before recently
removing them.  Just clutter with no damage.

On 2/25/2015 2:48 PM, Trish wrote:

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and stuck, thanks to
window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall J13 either,
sigh
I do like it through the programs/features better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when not even j12
full version was, that's an embarrassing mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only, so I needed
to
do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this was cause of
my
first attemp going through the jaws uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40
minute demo has expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version
here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just went through P/F,
and heck didn't even loose speech while that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
clarify.

   Best,
Alan


On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
laptop?

Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws
on
start menu uninstall?

Thanks for any help,

Trish



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[JAWS-Users] windows update

2015-02-25 Thread anna vimini

Hi List I forgot to add that I am using windows 8.1
windows update installed some updates on my computer and only one of 
them failed and I would like to know if windows update will try to 
install it again, it was an important update?

thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
iTunes is the program that folks love to hate. I love Apple devices, but
I wish that you could copy files directly to them like you can with
Android devices.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

iTunes drives me nuts especially version 12. I was pretty comfortable
back with version 11, but now it's a nightmare.

On 2/25/15, Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
  I made some progress, but I need to review how I made it happen lol.
 ITunes makes me want to scream.  I managed to get a few songs on, but 
 once more, after I did it, I was like how did that happen. lol.
 I'll try the control enter thing.

 On 2/25/15, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that 
 doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control 
 enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell 
 whether a given song is checked or not.

 On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I 
 agree with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for
me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The 
 songs play when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from 
 failure, loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List 
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimber 
 Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only 
 checked artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box

 that says sync entire library. Then you have to make sure the 
 songs you want to sync are selected in the list. I used to know 
 specifically how to do this, but since iTunes version 12 it seems to

 be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't 
 been on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging 
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any 
 tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to 
 be endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 
 12.1.1.4 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I 
 have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the

 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
I'm not sure keeping all those shared components of prior versions is really 
necessary, now that I think about it.

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,

Glad all worked out. I always get confused but I believe in
the past I always made sure I removed the version of JAWS
before that versions talking installer or JAWS went silent
when I went to uninstall the versions that I'd already
removed the talking installer

Al

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini
heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and
stuck, thanks to window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall
J13 either, sigh I do like it through the programs/features
better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when
not even j12 full version was, that's an embarrassing
mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only,
so I needed to do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this
was cause of my first attemp going through the jaws
uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 minute demo has
expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just
went through P/F, and heck didn't even loose speech while
that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important
thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components.
Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs
relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone
else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying
correct, please
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish
patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from
my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or,
through Jaws on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi Trish

There is only one copy of the shared components that is used by all versions
of JAWS.  If you delete the shared components for any one version, you have
deleted the shared components for all versions and none of them will work.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 01:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

I'm not sure keeping all those shared components of prior versions is really
necessary, now that I think about it.

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,

Glad all worked out. I always get confused but I believe in
the past I always made sure I removed the version of JAWS
before that versions talking installer or JAWS went silent
when I went to uninstall the versions that I'd already
removed the talking installer

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini
heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and
stuck, thanks to window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall
J13 either, sigh I do like it through the programs/features
better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when
not even j12 full version was, that's an embarrassing
mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only,
so I needed to do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this
was cause of my first attemp going through the jaws
uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 minute demo has
expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just
went through P/F, and heck didn't even loose speech while
that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important
thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components.
Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs
relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone
else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying
correct, please
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish
patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from
my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or,
through Jaws on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Maria Campbell
Quite honestly, I think Freedom Scientific should do something about 
that shared component issue. Removing them can cause havoc on one's 
computer sometimes, but leaving them can create problems as well.



Sunny Day
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luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 2/25/2015 12:27 PM, Trish wrote:

I'm not sure keeping all those shared components of prior versions is really
necessary, now that I think about it.

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,

Glad all worked out. I always get confused but I believe in
the past I always made sure I removed the version of JAWS
before that versions talking installer or JAWS went silent
when I went to uninstall the versions that I'd already
removed the talking installer

Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini
heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and
stuck, thanks to window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall
J13 either, sigh I do like it through the programs/features
better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when
not even j12 full version was, that's an embarrassing
mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only,
so I needed to do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this
was cause of my first attemp going through the jaws
uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 minute demo has
expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just
went through P/F, and heck didn't even loose speech while
that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important
thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components.
Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs
relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone
else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying
correct, please
clarify.

  Best,
Alan


On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish

patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from

my window's 7

laptop?

Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or,

through Jaws on

start menu uninstall?

Thanks for any help,

Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Kimber Gardner
iTunes drives me nuts especially version 12. I was pretty comfortable
back with version 11, but now it's a nightmare.

On 2/25/15, Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
  I made some progress, but I need to review how I made it happen lol.
 ITunes makes me want to scream.  I managed to get a few songs on, but
 once more, after I did it, I was like how did that happen. lol.
 I'll try the control enter thing.

 On 2/25/15, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that
 doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control
 enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell
 whether a given song is checked or not.

 On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
 with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs
 play
 when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
 artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
 sync
 entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync
 are
 selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but
 since
 iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any
 tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
I'm keeping j15, I rather like it just fine. but I need 16 for that pdf 
issues

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Pursley jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


You describe the angst of a careful but intrepid JAWS user.  My turn
will come next year when I uninstall J15.  The talking installer these
days is separate from the JAWS program and need to be uninstalled
individually.  I had a bunch of them in a string before recently
removing them.  Just clutter with no damage.

On 2/25/2015 2:48 PM, Trish wrote:
 Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini heart attack.
 It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and stuck, thanks to
 window's update window popping up.
 I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall J13 either,
 sigh
 I do like it through the programs/features better though. I did uninstall
 j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when not even j12
 full version was, that's an embarrassing mistake on my part.
 I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only, so I needed 
 to
 do some clean up here.
 I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this was cause of 
 my
 first attemp going through the jaws uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40
 minute demo has expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version 
 here,
 so dunno what that was all about.
 Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just went through P/F,
 and heck didn't even loose speech while that happened, huge relief!

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


 Trish,
 I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
 whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
 choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
 shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list
 has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
 clarify.

   Best,
 Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws 
 on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
I think I'll stick with 11.4 awhile longer then

- Original Message - 
From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


iTunes drives me nuts especially version 12. I was pretty comfortable
back with version 11, but now it's a nightmare.

On 2/25/15, Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
  I made some progress, but I need to review how I made it happen lol.
 ITunes makes me want to scream.  I managed to get a few songs on, but
 once more, after I did it, I was like how did that happen. lol.
 I'll try the control enter thing.

 On 2/25/15, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that
 doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control
 enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell
 whether a given song is checked or not.

 On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
 with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs
 play
 when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
 artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
 sync
 entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync
 are
 selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but
 since
 iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any
 tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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 Kimberly

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[JAWS-Users] how to restore pc with jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Tom
I thought the instructions on how to restore a pc were on the jaws users list 
homepage, but I couldn’t find it, so if it is, could someone give me the 
heading it’s in, and under? thanks
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Trish
hope you didn't do what I did with J12, this is just so embarrassing, but 
new laptop back in 2011, and well ok my first one too, how was I suppose to 
know there was switch to turn on internet? smiles
so, it never installed properly either.

- Original Message - 
From: Maria Campbell luc...@ct.metrocast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


I'm still using 15 as well because 16 never installed right, even after
consulting FS.  16 installed as if already merged with 15 or who knows
what version, since my 4-year old laptop started with JAWS 9 or 10.
16 never went down to that normal slow rate of speech at first
installation, and all the keys that I usually silence at
installation--tab, escape, enter, were already silent.
Shared components, ugh.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 2/25/2015 12:56 PM, Trish wrote:
 I'm keeping j15, I rather like it just fine. but I need 16 for that pdf
 issues

 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Pursley jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


 You describe the angst of a careful but intrepid JAWS user.  My turn
 will come next year when I uninstall J15.  The talking installer these
 days is separate from the JAWS program and need to be uninstalled
 individually.  I had a bunch of them in a string before recently
 removing them.  Just clutter with no damage.

 On 2/25/2015 2:48 PM, Trish wrote:
 Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini heart 
 attack.
 It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and stuck, thanks 
 to
 window's update window popping up.
 I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall J13 either,
 sigh
 I do like it through the programs/features better though. I did uninstall
 j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when not even j12
 full version was, that's an embarrassing mistake on my part.
 I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only, so I needed
 to
 do some clean up here.
 I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this was cause of
 my
 first attemp going through the jaws uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 
 40
 minute demo has expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version
 here,
 so dunno what that was all about.
 Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just went through 
 P/F,
 and heck didn't even loose speech while that happened, huge relief!

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


 Trish,
 I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
 whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
 choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
 shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the 
 list
 has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
 clarify.

Best,
 Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws
 on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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[JAWS-Users] restore my laptop

2015-02-25 Thread Tom
can someone give me the steps to restore my laptop with jaws? I know how to get 
to the restore button in accessories, but since I’ve never restored a 
pc/laptop, how do I find a restore point? vista, i.e. 9, jaws 12
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Maria Campbell

No, nothing like that.
And I, too, like to keep just the current and previous versions. That 
means that I probably have bits and pieces of 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 
in the registry and who knows where else?



Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 2/25/2015 2:58 PM, Trish wrote:

hope you didn't do what I did with J12, this is just so embarrassing, but
new laptop back in 2011, and well ok my first one too, how was I suppose to
know there was switch to turn on internet? smiles
so, it never installed properly either.

- Original Message -
From: Maria Campbell luc...@ct.metrocast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


I'm still using 15 as well because 16 never installed right, even after
consulting FS.  16 installed as if already merged with 15 or who knows
what version, since my 4-year old laptop started with JAWS 9 or 10.
16 never went down to that normal slow rate of speech at first
installation, and all the keys that I usually silence at
installation--tab, escape, enter, were already silent.
Shared components, ugh.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

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Blaise Pascal

On 2/25/2015 12:56 PM, Trish wrote:

I'm keeping j15, I rather like it just fine. but I need 16 for that pdf
issues

- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


You describe the angst of a careful but intrepid JAWS user.  My turn
will come next year when I uninstall J15.  The talking installer these
days is separate from the JAWS program and need to be uninstalled
individually.  I had a bunch of them in a string before recently
removing them.  Just clutter with no damage.

On 2/25/2015 2:48 PM, Trish wrote:

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini heart
attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and stuck, thanks
to
window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall J13 either,
sigh
I do like it through the programs/features better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when not even j12
full version was, that's an embarrassing mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only, so I needed
to
do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this was cause of
my
first attemp going through the jaws uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your
40
minute demo has expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version
here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just went through
P/F,
and heck didn't even loose speech while that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the
list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
clarify.

Best,
Alan


On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7
laptop?

Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through Jaws
on
start menu uninstall?

Thanks for any help,

Trish



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[JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread j Bron
Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?  Thanks!
Judith

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows updates

2015-02-25 Thread leonard morris
Yes, well atleast with windows seven. I set my PC to only notify me when 
there is an update. This way for me windows won't keep trying and 
rebooting the computer several times.


On 2/26/2015 1:57 AM, anna vimini wrote:

Hi all,
when a windows update fails does windows update try to instal it again 
until it succeeds ?

thanks in advance

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[JAWS-Users] test

2015-02-25 Thread Tom
did this go out?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread Lenny McHugh
I use to be able to use that method. Now when I go to send or send-to I only 
have the following choices:

drop box, dvd drive E or team viewer.


-Original Message- 
From: Blackwell, Clifford

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:08 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Place the focus on the document you wish to attach.  Right Click on the 
document or hit the context key.  Arrow up or down to Send or Send to. 
Right arrow to the list of places where the file or document can be sent. 
Arrow up or down to Mail Recipient and click on that.
This will bring up an email with the document attached.  Enter the address 
of the person or persons to whom you wish to send the document.  If you want 
text in the email, tab down beyond the indication of the attachment to the 
body and typ in your message.  Then send the mail as you would normally.


I don't believe this is dependent upon who your provider is.  It's a 
function of Windows.


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Behalf Of j Bron

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:17 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?  Thanks!
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[JAWS-Users] Finding and locating Text within a PDF using Adobe Reader

2015-02-25 Thread Rob

Hi Group,

  Using Windows 7 and JAWS 16 with Adobe PDF Reader. I have a question 
regarding searching for text within a large PDF document. When I need to 
locate a word or text string within a PDF document, the only way to do 
this is by using the search dialog box within Adobe Reader by using the 
Control+F key combination. Using the JAWS search tool won't work because 
it will only find text on the current page. If the search is successful, 
Adobe Reader will present the page within the document with the search 
text highlighted. I then need to press the Escape key to exit the Adobe 
Reader search dialog box. The question now becomes, how do you get JAWS 
to locate on that highlighted text? If you just start reading with JAWS, 
it will either start at the top of the page or where you were reading 
from if you had previously visited that page. I know I can then do a 
JAWS search on that page to find that same text but it would be nice if 
JAWS would automatically locate itself on that highlighted text so you 
could just start reading from there when you escaped from the Adobe 
search tool.
  For another potential work around, is there some function within JAWS 
scripting that will locate a highlighted block of text on the current 
page? That way, a small script could be written to move JAWS to that 
text position with a single keystroke.
  Surely others must do this as well and know how to automatically link 
the found text to JAWS.

Thanks,
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[JAWS-Users] looking for backup help in outlook 2007

2015-02-25 Thread Rudie
I am using ie11 Jaws 14 with the last update service for this file.

 

If someone could tell me in details of how to proceed all my message folders
and all the address book and how to restore this after a complete wipe out
of drive,  Thank goodness I have an image backup.  I just do not wish to
lose so many important things for me.

 

I thank you all so truly for this help, and if I did not include anything
please let me know.

 

Your friend north of your country, Canada, thanks you very much.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] test

2015-02-25 Thread Michelle Clark
I  got it!

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Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:03 PM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] test

did this go out?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread Michelle Clark
For accessibility reasons, just make sure you paste it just below the
subject line.

Michelle

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

If you are using outlook, copy the file that you want to attach and paste it
into the body of the email. You can shift tab to check that it has been
attached. LeDon. 

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Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?  Thanks!
Judith

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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread Michelle Clark
I  do the following: 
1. Locate document. Ie My documents.
2. Copy  
3. Open email
4.b  Paste just below Subject  line.

Michelle


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Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?  Thanks!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Rose Combs
Oh, I deleted the shared components once, what a mess that left me with.  It
was years and years ago when I did that.  It was a learning experience but
I'd rather not do that again.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Virgil Cook
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Good advice.  I never delete the shared components.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components. Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying correct, please
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:
 
 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from my window's 7 
 laptop?
 
 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or, through 
 Jaws on start menu uninstall?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Trish
 
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Rose Combs
Don't uninstall them unless you want to spend time getting them back, been
there once years ago.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

I'm not sure keeping all those shared components of prior versions is really

necessary, now that I think about it.

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,

Glad all worked out. I always get confused but I believe in
the past I always made sure I removed the version of JAWS
before that versions talking installer or JAWS went silent
when I went to uninstall the versions that I'd already
removed the talking installer

Al

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws

Thank you, I wish I had read this before I almost had a mini
heart attack.
It's just so unnerving to hear jaws in his drunk mode and
stuck, thanks to window's update window popping up.
I didn't uninstall the shared components, I didn't uninstall
J13 either, sigh I do like it through the programs/features
better though. I did uninstall
j12 talking installer, don't ask me why that was there when
not even j12 full version was, that's an embarrassing
mistake on my part.
I typically like to have just 2 versions on my systems only,
so I needed to do some clean up here.
I was fretting after rebooting, I wouldn't have speech this
was cause of my first attemp going through the jaws
uninstaller, drunk jaws says...your 40 minute demo has
expired, well what the heck, I have full paid version here,
so dunno what that was all about.
Thankfully j15 came back talking after reboot, so I just
went through P/F, and heck didn't even loose speech while
that happened, huge relief!

- Original Message -
From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling Jaws


Trish,
I do not believe it really makes a difference. The important
thing is
whether you want to uninstall the shared components.
Personally, I always
choose no to this because if there are other programs
relying on those
shared components they will not work correctly. If anyone
else on the list
has other information, or does not find what I am saying
correct, please
clarify.

 Best,
Alan

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:10, Trish
patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 I need to know which is the best way to remove jaws from
my window's 7
 laptop?

 Do I do it through the control panel/programs-features or,
through Jaws on
 start menu uninstall?

 Thanks for any help,

 Trish



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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread LeDon
If you are using outlook, copy the file that you want to attach and paste it
into the body of the email. You can shift tab to check that it has been
attached. LeDon. 

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Behalf Of j Bron
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?  Thanks!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Rose Combs
Considering that Voiceover is so useful, why do they screw iTunes up so
much?  I can use it for the store and updates but to manage music, not me,
good thing I don't want a lot on my phone, I am more into books and I do
have the piano music I want there, no clue exactly how I managed that but it
is there and it would be the music I would want to de-stress  listening to.




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Behalf Of Kimsan Song
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 I made some progress, but I need to review how I made it happen lol.
ITunes makes me want to scream.  I managed to get a few songs on, but
once more, after I did it, I was like how did that happen. lol.
I'll try the control enter thing.

On 2/25/15, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that
 doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control
 enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell
 whether a given song is checked or not.

 On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
 with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs
 play
 when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

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 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
 artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
 sync
 entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync
 are
 selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but
 since
 iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Annette Carr
Or maybe instructions on how to sync a specific play list.

Annette


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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

I need what hair I have left, lol!
I, however, managed to sync music to my phone using instructions from
another lister, I think he's on here, if not, it was from the blind tech
list; however, the issue I had was I wanted to sync a few songs, and not the
entire library.  Now I have 900 songs on my phone lol.
If someone can provide steps using jaws how to sync a few songs at a time
and not the entire library, that would be nice.
Thank you.

 Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been on my
computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging trying to
put music onto my phone lol.
I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be 
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4 
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows 8 
 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the time 
 to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread Joeylamperis
Depends on who your provider is

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Rose Combs
It is usable somewhat but certainly not as easy as 11.  Why they took so
much accessibility out of it is what I do not understand.  I'd much rather
work where I have a real keyboard to type on where a touch on the screen
does not send you off to nowhere land sometimes no matter how careful you
are but have to admit since 12, I have used my phone more, but the iPad
mini, it is just too sensitive, even with the setting changed to slow it
down, I think I can blow on it and it will go bouncing around.  

I appreciate voiceover on my phone and the iPad, so why can't they make
iTunes work without having to tab all over the place, sometimes the control
and a number works, sometimes not.  

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

iTunes drives me nuts especially version 12. I was pretty comfortable
back with version 11, but now it's a nightmare.

On 2/25/15, Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
  I made some progress, but I need to review how I made it happen lol.
 ITunes makes me want to scream.  I managed to get a few songs on, but
 once more, after I did it, I was like how did that happen. lol.
 I'll try the control enter thing.

 On 2/25/15, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, just pressing enter isn't enough to select the song for that
 doesn't select it for sync-ing. I believe the keystroke is control
 enter. Then when arrowing up and down in the list jaws should tell
 whether a given song is checked or not.

 On 2/25/15, Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as checking the boxes, I did that and that did not work.  I agree
 with you and it makes sense, but it must be a hit and miss for me too.


 When selecting the songs, I just press enter on them right? The songs
 play
 when I do that.
  Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
 loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

 You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
 artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
 sync
 entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want to sync
 are
 selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to do this, but
 since
 iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for me.

 I hope that helps a little.

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been
 on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any
 tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
 evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4
 works well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows
 8 and there is no probem with either one. I would like to take the
 time to thank Apple for the great work that they have done for us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Guide for Uninstalling Jaws

2015-02-25 Thread Rose Combs
Use the Windows key, search for Jaws, open the folder arrow down until you
hear uninstall jaws and follow the prompts, do not say yes to remove shared
components unless FS has suggested you do so.  Alternatively go into the
control panel to remove programs arrow down to Jaws and press the context
key to and press enter on uninstall, this sometimes suggests you go
uninstall from the Jaws menu.  

It is easy, really it is, I usually keep two versions on my main computer,
just in case, but this one any the laptop I will be using for work just have
16 on them.  
You can't learn how to do stuff with your computer if you won't take small
chances with good directions.  
This one is basically a simple thing to accomplish.  I have been doing
uninstalls since 1998 with various versions with only one time having a
problem it took longer to fix than I anticipated, when I deleted shared
components.  That was a very long time ago, and eventually I had to install
a version from disk then upgrade to fix the problem.  



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Guide for Uninstalling Jaws

I think it would be a good idea if it's not a lot of trouble to put on your 
web site David, a file explaining to us nervous types how and what to 
uninstall of a prior version of Jaws.
A guideline however you wanted to do it, but I personally could benefit from

it, especially if it's been awhile since I last performed the task.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread j Bron
Optimum

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joeylamperis
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Depends on who your provider is

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:16 PM, j Bron jb...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?
Thanks!
 Judith
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] attachments

2015-02-25 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
Place the focus on the document you wish to attach.  Right Click on the 
document or hit the context key.  Arrow up or down to Send or Send to.  
Right arrow to the list of places where the file or document can be sent.  
Arrow up or down to Mail Recipient and click on that.
This will bring up an email with the document attached.  Enter the address of 
the person or persons to whom you wish to send the document.  If you want text 
in the email, tab down beyond the indication of the attachment to the body and 
typ in your message.  Then send the mail as you would normally.

I don't believe this is dependent upon who your provider is.  It's a function 
of Windows.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of j Bron
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] attachments

Can anyone give me instructions for attaching a document to email?  Thanks!
Judith

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[JAWS-Users] doing a system restore

2015-02-25 Thread Tom
I posted this earlier, but obviously my subject didn’t make sense to folks, so 
hopefully this one will. here’s my post again:

can someone give me the steps to do a system restore on my laptop with jaws? I 
know how to get to the restore button in accessories, but since I’ve never 
restored a pc/laptop, how do I find a restore point? vista, i.e. 9, jaws 12
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[JAWS-Users] how could I backup messages in office outlook 7 please!

2015-02-25 Thread Rudie
 

I wish to not lose messages, and I do not like losing addresses 

 

I am wondering if someone could give me step by step way of saving my
messages and addresses and then restoring them please.

 

I am using jaws 14 with the last update of jaws 14 version.

 

I thank you all so very much.

 

all of you are my friends.

 

Thanks to who may write or be my teacher as I back up this huge amount of
messages.

 

Thanks to one and all.

 

Rudie from Toronto Ontario Canada.

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Transferring a PDF?

2015-02-25 Thread Vicky Vaughan
Hi List, When I find a PDF of some form of information on the internet, if I 
just copy that file name how do I import it into either my Open Book 8 or 9? 

I have both of them and am using Jaws 14. I do have, but have not yet installed 
Jaws 16.  

I am using either Internet Explorer 11 or the latest Fire Fox browser.

Any help will be gratefully received!!

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan
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[JAWS-Users] ocr failed to start

2015-02-25 Thread Shane Hecker
I'm using Windows 7 home premium 64 bit with the latest build of Jaws 
16. When I tried to do an OCR on a pdf document that appeared to be 
empty, it says OCR failed to start. How do you fix that? I had several 
versions of Freedom Scientific OCR so removed all those plus Freedom 
Scientific Fine Reader and FS Omnipage, then reinstalled from the file I 
downloaded from FS's web site. Still problem persists.


Shane

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4

2015-02-25 Thread Kimber Gardner
You need to check the box that says something like sync only checked
artists, albums and genres. And you need to uncheck the box that says
sync entire library. Then you have to make sure the songs you want
to sync are selected in the list. I used to know specifically how to
do this, but since iTunes version 12 it seems to be hit or miss for
me.

I hope that helps a little.

On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 I might just put it back on my system. The fact is iTunes hasn't been on my

 computer for over 6 months because I need what hair I have left.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 It's probably me not using iTunes, ever, but I am still strugging
 trying to put music onto my phone lol.
 I'm sure the latest update works wel, but I'm just dense. lol. Any tips?

 On 2/24/15, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 This is good news, up until now iTunes was something that had to be
 endured

 not enjoyed.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from

 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 - Original Message -
 From: diane giannetti diane.lu...@att.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:12 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding iTunes update of 12.1.1.4


 Just to let all of you know, the updated version of ITunes 12.1.1.4 works
 well with jaws 16.  My friend has windows 7 and I have windows 8 and
 there
 is no probem with either one. I would like to take the time to thank
 Apple
 for the great work that they have done for us.

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