Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Dave]

I've used the Amazon returns page, and as usual, don't find any problems 
with the controls, etc. Given that there are so many iterations of JAWS 
version, operating systems, video card/drivers, IE versions, and user 
settings, it's no wonder that we users often have drastically different 
experiences with the same web site.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 19:24
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, I 
use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly for 
the reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually impaired 
people. Often in such cases, information is inadvertently excluded that is 
available on the company's regular website.

The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than write 
off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having problems but 
other screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify the exact 
problem. When I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix in the days 
and weeks to come. I wish all webmasters were as responsive. We owe such 
companies respect.

I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for 
Amazon to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, 
go ahead and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their 
website is generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many 
screenreader users an injustice.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that 
it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button"
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but 
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless 
label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but 
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get 
the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to 
call their customer service and get their help to submit the return request. 
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several 
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem 
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best 
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to 
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site. 
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early 
sixties and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree 
> with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which 
> is because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading 
> and b for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as 
> opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I 
> brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, 
> too. It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've 
> addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you 
> experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
> accessibility challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
> always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
> their site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Dave]

Gene,

I hope I never have your experience with Amazon.com. For whatever reason, I 
find the standard site completely accessible, and don't plan to use any 
other version. I'm using IE11 and don't have your experience with unlabeled 
buttons. Don't know what to suggest, but hope you can ultimately find a 
solution.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Warner" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:23
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I beg your pardon, I fervently hope they wise up and make their site
truly accessible to all, not just a fortunate few.



On 1/8/2017 8:07 PM, Dave wrote:
> Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a 
> very
> nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I
> use the mainstream page.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Spratt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
>
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree 
> with
> you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
> because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and 
> b
> for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as 
> opposed
> to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought 
> it
> to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't
> the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
> experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
> accessibility
> challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
> always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
> their
> site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Dave]

...Judywell because I don't like the accessible page, personally. Each 
to their own.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


Why don't some of you use the accessible page? I find it a whole lot easier
when checking out and when going through the list of things I've searched
for rather than the regular page.  Judy & Libby



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with

you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed

to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it

to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Adrian Spratt]

Here's Amazon's customer service phone number: 866-216-1072.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of dooi...@frontier.com
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi Gene,
Polease provide Amazon's Customer Service phone number.
Thank you,
DJM



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:19
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that it 
introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but when 
you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but could 
not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get the drop 
down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to call their 
customer service and get their help to submit the return request.
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several 
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem 
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best practices 
for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to segregate screen 
reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site.
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early sixties 
and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I 
> agree
with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for 
button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as
opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I 
brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too.
It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented 
> with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other 
> tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their 
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Adrian Spratt]

I don't understand how this responds to what I and others wrote. Like you, I 
use IE. Also, as I said, I don't use their accessibility page exactly for the 
reason you indicate: that such pages risk segregating visually impaired people. 
Often in such cases, information is inadvertently excluded that is available on 
the company's regular website. 

The fact is that Amazon's website is unusually accessible. Rather than write 
off an entire website as inaccessible when you may be having problems but other 
screenreader users aren't, contact Amazon and specify the exact problem. When 
I've done so with Amazon, I usually notice a fix in the days and weeks to come. 
I wish all webmasters were as responsive. We owe such companies respect.

I've never had to use Amazon's return page, so it may be something for Amazon 
to look into. If no one else on this list has a suggestion for you, go ahead 
and alert them. But if you attack them on the grounds that their website is 
generally inaccessible, you're doing both Amazon and many screenreader users an 
injustice.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that it 
introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but when 
you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but could 
not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get the drop 
down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to call their 
customer service and get their help to submit the return request. This wasn't 
the first time I had to do this either, the first was several months ago and 
the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem which is well over 
a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best practices 
for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to segregate screen 
reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site. It rather reminds me 
of how African Americans were treated in the early sixties and before, separate 
and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
> you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
> because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b 
> for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed 
> to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it 
> to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't 
> the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
> accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
> supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
> challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
> that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
> get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
> seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[dooie13]

Hi Gene,
Polease provide Amazon's Customer Service phone number.
Thank you,
DJM



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 18:19
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found that
it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.

One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless
label.

Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, but
could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor could I get
the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the end I had to
call their customer service and get their help to submit the return request.
This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, the first was several
months ago and the problem persists, as does the unlabeled buttons problem
which is well over a year old.

Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional site.
It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the early
sixties and before, separate and unequal.

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
> I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree
with you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.
>
> I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as
opposed to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I
brought it to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too.
It isn't the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.
>
> So, where are you finding problems?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
> To: JAWS Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.
>
> I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.
>
> I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.
>
> Cheers!
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Gene Warner]

I beg your pardon, I fervently hope they wise up and make their site 
truly accessible to all, not just a fortunate few.




On 1/8/2017 8:07 PM, Dave wrote:

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed
to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it
to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Gene Warner]

First of all, I use Internet Explorer, I tried firefox once, but found 
that it introduced its own problems, so I went back to IE.


One common problem is buttons with no meaningful labels, just "button" 
or "submit query". When there's only one it's not much of a problem, but 
when you get three buttons next to each other all with the same useless 
label.


Today I had to return an item, I was able to get to the returns page, 
but could not check the check box for the item I was returning, nor 
could I get the drop down list of reasons for my return to work. In the 
end I had to call their customer service and get their help to submit 
the return request. This wasn't the first time I had to do this either, 
the first was several months ago and the problem persists, as does the 
unlabeled buttons problem which is well over a year old.


Honestly, I would think that it would be more efficient to use best 
practices for accessibility on their main site rather than to try to 
segregate screen reader user to an equally flawed and less functional 
site. It rather reminds me of how African Americans were treated in the 
early sixties and before, separate and unequal.


Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 7:17 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is because 
it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for button 
gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed to 
a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it to 
their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't the 
only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Judy]

Why don't some of you use the accessible page? I find it a whole lot easier
when checking out and when going through the list of things I've searched
for rather than the regular page.  Judy & Libby 

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very 
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I 
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with

you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b 
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed

to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it

to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't 
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you 
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their 
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Dave]

Yes, let's hope that Amazon never changes their user interface. It's a very 
nice one for using JAWS. And I also do not use their accessible page -- I 
use the mainstream page.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 16:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com


I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is 
because it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b 
for button gets me to all the areas I usually want.

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed 
to a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it 
to their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't 
the only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed.

So, where are you finding problems?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you 
experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools 
that make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their 
site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Adrian Spratt]

I want to explain. First, I don't use Amazon's accessible page. I agree with 
you on that. I also realize the regular Amazon page is dense, which is because 
it's packed with information. But navigating by h for heading and b for button 
gets me to all the areas I usually want. 

I used to have difficulty when a page offered periodic shipments, as opposed to 
a one-time purchase. However, Amazon seems to have fixed it. I brought it to 
their attention many months ago, and I'm sure others did, too. It isn't the 
only problem I've alerted them to that they've addressed. 

So, where are you finding problems? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Adrian Spratt]

Absolutely. Thanks for catching it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 4:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

The paste command is Control V, not Control Alt V.
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Miriam,

Just press control-alt-v to paste. The text Mike suggests you copy goes to the 
clipboard. The way to get text from the clipboard is to press control-alt-v.

There's another way to read the person's address that doesn't involve copying 
and pasting. Set up a reply to the message with control-r, then arrow down. The 
"From" line will display the address in a form JAWS can navigate letter by 
letter. Be sure not to send the reply unless you mean to!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes 
for opening clipboard, please?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the 
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the 
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character by 
character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden / not 
spoken.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you 
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Adrian Spratt]

Amazon is exceptionally accessible. What specific problems do you experience?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:29 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
What kinds of issues are you having? I shop with Amazon all the time with out 
any real difficulties. The only issues I have really had are with leaving 
reviews. I did just about all of my holiday shopping here. I use JAWS18 with 
either the latest version of Firefox or Google Chrome.

Regards,
Greg WocherHi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same accessibility 
challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.

I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other tools that 
make amazon.com more accessible.

I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and always 
get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of their site 
seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.

Cheers!

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[JAWS-Users] Amazon.com

[Gene Warner]

Hi everyone!

Does anyone else here shop at amazon.com? I am frequently presented with 
accessibility challenges on their main site and often find that their 
supposedly screen reader optimized site suffers from the same 
accessibility challenges, making it hardly worth bothering with.


I'm asking hoping some people have found ways, or scripts, or other 
tools that make amazon.com more accessible.


I complain to them all the time about their accessibility problems and 
always get some boiler plate response that they take accessibility of 
their site seriously but nothing ever changes, or it just gets worse.


Cheers!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Gaining access to the Action Center

[Gene Warner]

Unfortunately, unless it was added in Windows 10, there is no keyboard 
shortcut to get to the action center.


The most likely reason you can't access the action center icon is 
because system tray icons get hidden from view if they are inactive for 
a period of time. For sighted users there is a button immediately to the 
left of the system tray which will temporarily display all the icons in 
the system tray. You can get to it by pressing Windows + B to place the 
focus on the task bar, then tab to the elevated or user promoted system 
tray icons button, but be warned, access to the button is erratic at best.


To get around this go to the control panel, then to the notification 
area icons applet. tab around until you find the Always show all icons 
and notifications on the taskbar check box and check it, then find the 
OK button and press enter. Now all system tray icons will always be 
available to you through JAWS.


hth

Cheers!



On 1/8/2017 1:19 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

To All:

I was needing to know something. My wife told me that there is a Action Center 
“icon” on my desktop, in the systray. I am running Windows 10, on a Dell laptop 
with JAWS 17. I cannot access it myself without sighted assistance, but once in 
it, I can navigate around it. Can anyone tell me the keyboard combinations for 
gaining access to this? I know how to access the systray icons, but JAWS does 
not read the Action Center. Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Andy Baracco]

There is another way. highlight the message in the list of messages and hit 
ALT ENTER. This will bring up the message properties dialogue and then tab 
over to the Details tab and arrow down.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

It doesn't work in Thunderbird either.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 1/8/2017 10:53 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Interesting. It doesn't work for me in Outlook 2010. I should have 
mentioned this is what I'm using.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason White

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

You can use Shift-Tab from the body of the message to move into the header 
field containing the address, then Route JAWS to PC (Insert+Numpad-Minus), 
then read character-by-character with the JAWS cursor, then Numpad-Plus to 
return to the PC cursor.


Works under Microsoft Outlook 2016.

Miriam Vieni  wrote:

Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter
if you encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are 
responding?


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Andy Baracco]

The paste command is Control V, not Control Alt V.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Miriam,

Just press control-alt-v to paste. The text Mike suggests you copy goes to 
the clipboard. The way to get text from the clipboard is to press 
control-alt-v.


There's another way to read the person's address that doesn't involve 
copying and pasting. Set up a reply to the message with control-r, then 
arrow down. The "From" line will display the address in a form JAWS can 
navigate letter by letter. Be sure not to send the reply unless you mean to!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes 
for opening clipboard, please?


Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the 
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the 
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character 
by character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden 
/ not spoken.


Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you 
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Adrian Spratt]

Mike, you got me to check my notes. 

You can view the Windows clipboard by using the JAWS key combination JAWS 
key+spacebar, release, then c. Arrow down to see what's copied there. Escape to 
close. (I just confirmed.)

If we're not careful, we'll start bringing the Office clipboard into this 
discussion, which you reach with alt-h, followed by f, followed by o, then F6 
to view.

You can copy only one item at a time to the Windows clipboard. The Office 
clipboard can handle more than one item.

But the clipboard Miriam needs is for Windows, not Office.

Again, I'm using Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam & List Members,

In Windows 7 & 8 the clipboard can only be viewed by doing a slight tweak. 
The information & file can be gotten from the link below.  I've done this tweak 
to all our Windows 7 computers, & it works just fine.  You might have to use 
the Jaws cursor, & maximize the Clipbook Viewer window to read the contents.

Link for info & steps:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-clipboard-manager-viewer

Direct clipbrd.exe File download link:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/downloads/Clipboard-Viewer.zip

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes
for opening clipboard, please?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character
by character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden
/ not spoken.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Gaining access to the Action Center

[Tom]

what in the heck is the action center?

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 12:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Gaining access to the Action Center

FROM YOUR DESKTOP PRESS WINDOWS KEY PLUS A.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
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On 1/8/2017 12:19 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

To All:

I was needing to know something. My wife told me that there is a Action 
Center “icon” on my desktop, in the systray. I am running Windows 10, on a 
Dell laptop with JAWS 17. I cannot access it myself without sighted 
assistance, but once in it, I can navigate around it. Can anyone tell me 
the keyboard combinations for gaining access to this? I know how to access 
the systray icons, but JAWS does not read the Action Center. Many thanks.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Mike B.]

Hi Miriam & List Members,

In Windows 7 & 8 the clipboard can only be viewed by doing a slight tweak. 
The information & file can be gotten from the link below.  I've done this 
tweak to all our Windows 7 computers, & it works just fine.  You might have 
to use the Jaws cursor, & maximize the Clipbook Viewer window to read the 
contents.

Link for info & steps:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-clipboard-manager-viewer

Direct clipbrd.exe File download link:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/downloads/Clipboard-Viewer.zip

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes
for opening clipboard, please?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character
by character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden
/ not spoken.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Gaining access to the Action Center

[Maria Campbell]

FROM YOUR DESKTOP PRESS WINDOWS KEY PLUS A.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 1/8/2017 12:19 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

To All:

I was needing to know something. My wife told me that there is a Action Center 
“icon” on my desktop, in the systray. I am running Windows 10, on a Dell laptop 
with JAWS 17. I cannot access it myself without sighted assistance, but once in 
it, I can navigate around it. Can anyone tell me the keyboard combinations for 
gaining access to this? I know how to access the systray icons, but JAWS does 
not read the Action Center. Many thanks.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Gaining access to the Action Center

[jyandt.martin]

To All:

I was needing to know something. My wife told me that there is a Action Center 
“icon” on my desktop, in the systray. I am running Windows 10, on a Dell laptop 
with JAWS 17. I cannot access it myself without sighted assistance, but once in 
it, I can navigate around it. Can anyone tell me the keyboard combinations for 
gaining access to this? I know how to access the systray icons, but JAWS does 
not read the Action Center. Many thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you delete a folder you have created in outlook 2010?

[Rose]

The folder will need to be empty before you can delete it!  

Rose


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you delete a folder you have created in outlook
2010?

I am running W ten and jaws 18. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Maria Campbell]

I just discovered a work around to find the email address.  Find the 
address in the email, then hit the applications key at which point the 
arrow key works to read character by character.



Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 1/8/2017 10:53 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Interesting. It doesn't work for me in Outlook 2010. I should have mentioned 
this is what I'm using.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

You can use Shift-Tab from the body of the message to move into the header 
field containing the address, then Route JAWS to PC (Insert+Numpad-Minus), then 
read character-by-character with the JAWS cursor, then Numpad-Plus to return to 
the PC cursor.

Works under Microsoft Outlook 2016.

Miriam Vieni  wrote:

Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter
if you encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are 
responding?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Maria Campbell]

It doesn't work in Thunderbird either.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 1/8/2017 10:53 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Interesting. It doesn't work for me in Outlook 2010. I should have mentioned 
this is what I'm using.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

You can use Shift-Tab from the body of the message to move into the header 
field containing the address, then Route JAWS to PC (Insert+Numpad-Minus), then 
read character-by-character with the JAWS cursor, then Numpad-Plus to return to 
the PC cursor.

Works under Microsoft Outlook 2016.

Miriam Vieni  wrote:

Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter
if you encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are 
responding?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Adrian Spratt]

Interesting. It doesn't work for me in Outlook 2010. I should have mentioned 
this is what I'm using.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

You can use Shift-Tab from the body of the message to move into the header 
field containing the address, then Route JAWS to PC (Insert+Numpad-Minus), then 
read character-by-character with the JAWS cursor, then Numpad-Plus to return to 
the PC cursor.

Works under Microsoft Outlook 2016.

Miriam Vieni  wrote:
> Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter 
> if you encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are 
> responding?
> 
> Miriam
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[The Iowa Gal]

Once text is selected, use control + c to copy to the clipboard, and control
+ v to paste the contents of the clipboard into another document.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Jason White]

You can use Shift-Tab from the body of the message to move into the header
field containing the address, then Route JAWS to PC (Insert+Numpad-Minus),
then read character-by-character with the JAWS cursor, then Numpad-Plus to
return to the PC cursor.

Works under Microsoft Outlook 2016.

Miriam Vieni  wrote:
> Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you
> encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?
> 
> Miriam
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam,

Just press control-alt-v to paste. The text Mike suggests you copy goes to the 
clipboard. The way to get text from the clipboard is to press control-alt-v. 

There's another way to read the person's address that doesn't involve copying 
and pasting. Set up a reply to the message with control-r, then arrow down. The 
"From" line will display the address in a form JAWS can navigate letter by 
letter. Be sure not to send the reply unless you mean to!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes 
for opening clipboard, please? 

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the 
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the 
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character by 
character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden / not 
spoken.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you 
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?

Miriam


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[JAWS-Users] deleting a folder solved.

[jim rawls]

Disregard earlier email. Jim

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[JAWS-Users] how do you delete a folder you have created in outlook 2010?

[jim rawls]

I am running W ten and jaws 18. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Miriam Vieni]

Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes
for opening clipboard, please? 

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character
by character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden
/ not spoken.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] program to get song information and write metadata?

[David Ferrin]

Try number 40 under the audio section of the programs page.

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Morris 
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 10:18 PM 
To: Jaws for Windows. 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] program to get song information and write metadata? 


Hi all,

Looking for a program that works well with Jaws.

I have a number of songs that have incorrect tag information so are 
identified incorrectly by iTunes and therefore my iPhone.


Does anyone know of a program where I can get the correct tag 
information for these songs?


I've tried mp3 tag but it doesn't get correct information.




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Jaws certified 2016
email:
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