[JAWS-Users] how to: update firefox

[Kimsan]

Hi,

 

When I use ninite.com to update firefox, it asks if I want to save a binary
file. Not sure what that is. So, since I don't want to deal with something I
know nothing about, how do I update firefox. I'm using v. 44. 

 

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[JAWS-Users] J-2018 announcing "text area" instead of reading the command prompt edit box and feedback

[Hareth]

Greetings,
Jaws 2018 beta and final, saying "text area" both with command prompt
and power shell interface,
that's with windows10 creators fall edition.
I have to press insert plus B to check the results,
and that reads much more than what I need to hear.
Typing and editing also not spoken.
Any thing I need to know to fix that? Is there something I'm missing?
Or its a known bug.
Help would be much appreciated. I'm using command line a lot, there
for its a problem to deal with the current way jaws 2018 reading it.

Best

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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Dave...Oregonian]

Yes, but Holgar is a long-time JAWS user, so he's not affected in that way.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 21:04
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


Well, the first time you install JAWS you need to authorize it, and to do
that you need the code. I guess if you could get the code some other way,
you could authorize the download. if you install it and don't authorize it,
it will run in 40 minute mode.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


> Holgar -- then you've already got it. The CD/DVD is just window-dressing.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Holger Fiallo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 14:35
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
>
>
> Got the download but not the CD
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
>
> You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you
> should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD
> on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you
> have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have
> to
> reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually
> comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt
> to
> download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version
> of
> JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you
> will be prompted to authorize the new install.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Holger Fiallo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
>
>
>>Good question. Never got my.
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To:
>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
>>
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>>   Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for
>> version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be.
>> Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as
>> easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Andy Baracco]

Well, the first time you install JAWS you need to authorize it, and to do 
that you need the code. I guess if you could get the code some other way, 
you could authorize the download. if you install it and don't authorize it, 
it will run in 40 minute mode.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Holgar -- then you've already got it. The CD/DVD is just window-dressing.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 14:35
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


Got the download but not the CD

-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have 
to

reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt 
to
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version 
of

JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you
will be prompted to authorize the new install.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



   Good question. Never got my.

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To:

jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be.
Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as
easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.

   Dave


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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Dave...Oregonian]

Holgar -- then you've already got it. The CD/DVD is just window-dressing.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 14:35
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


Got the download but not the CD

-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have to
reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt to
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version of
JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you
will be prompted to authorize the new install.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


>Good question. Never got my.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To:
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
>
>
> Hello list,
>
>   Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for
> version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be.
> Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as
> easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.
>
>Dave
>
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

[cheez]

Eh, Dave, can you e-mail me off list.  I got a question for you.
My e-mail is:

ch...@cox.net

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry



Jerry,

Each time you install a major version of JAWS, one of your upgrades will
disappear. If you install JAWS 18, you will be down to 1 upgrade. When you
install JAWS 2018 you will be down to zero upgrades.

If you never install a JAWS version above 17, you will always have two
upgrades available. However you will not get any upgrades beyond JAWS 
2018,

because your SMA allows you two upgrades past your current version of JAWS
17. If you want to go beyond JAWS 2018, I recommend you install both JAWS 
18
and JAWS 2018, and contact VFO to purchase a new pair of upgrades. You 
won't

be able to go beyond JAWS 2018 if you don't purchase any new SMA. And I
suspect that not purchasing new SMA later this year will mean you will pay
big $$$ if/when you finally do upgrade past JAWS 2018.

If this is as clear as mud, call VFO at 800-444-4443 in the U.S. or your
local dealer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:46
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry


Morning all.

I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2
available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these
upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.
Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and NVDA

[andy]

My girlfriend is a big supporter of NVDA she likes it for the same reasons
you have stated, it seems similar to jaws, it is easy to use and best of
all, it is free. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and NVDA

Hello everyone. 

 

I'm curious to hear from people who use, or have used, both jAWS and NVDA. I
know this is the JAWS users mailing list, and I don't want to start any
arguments over which screen-reader is better or anything like that, but I
feel that this is still a valid topic for discussion here. I'm just curious
to know how others feel about these two products, one of which happens to be
free and open-source; one of which happens to be a commercial product that
is not always available to everyone at all times. Case in point: I recently
had a job interview where a test was required; they could not get jAWS
running on their old test computer system at all, not even the demo version,
so nVDA was my only recourse. Prior to that time, I'd only used NVDA briefly
on an ex-girlfriend's laptop, mostly for playing music. So, all this was
pretty new to me and to say the least, I was very nervous. But it turned out
to be a breeze: NVDA in fact does seem to behave very similar to jAWS, which
I find very interesting.

 

Now I'm once again in a position where I may have to be using nVDA for work.
So I decided to install it at home and really delve into it; see how it
works. I'm not getting rid of, or abandoning JAWS; it is a good product and,
after all, I paid for it, even if I received a discount to do so because of
my previous employment. So far though, I'm finding that there isn't really
any learning curve at all, or not much of one; it's as though the developers
created the software with JAWS users in mind, and indeed, I suspect that to
be the case.

 

So, for those of you who use (or have used) both products - what do you find
to be the major differences? I'm guessing they mostly involve specialised
application support, as in for example Microsoft Office, Firefox, Chrome and
so on; I'm aware that FS at least worked in tandem with Microsoft and
Mozilla to develop JAWS support for these applications. So far though I've
used both Outlook (admittedly only Outlook 2010) and Firefox, and although
spoken feedback is somewhat different, both seem to work extremely well with
NVDA.

 

Again, I'm not looking to replace JAWS. Just curious to know if others have
had similar experiences to mine. Maybe some people don't find NVDA to be a
viable alternative, for whatever reason; if so, definitely pipe up here as
I'm curious to know why. 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] who is getting my messages?

[andy]

I got your messege


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] who is getting my messages?

when you reply to your incomeing messages you have to delete the
jaws-users.com; >; in the to list and copy
and paste the email address from the  from field to the to field. then it
will go to the original sendar instead of to the list.
in the case of the list shift control  r, which is to reply to all does not
work for this list with wlm.
-Original Message-
From: Ted Larson
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

Thanks Net Bat.  I will check into these things.  By the way, is my reply
here just going to Net Bat, or, to the entire list?  Regards:  Ted Larson


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

does it run in demo mode after the computer is rebooted?
look in the about menu to find out your current status would be in the 2018
version;.; does it say it is a beta?
see if the unlock code was transfered to the new version.
it may not realy be there in the about menu item.
maybe you can activate it with your unlock code manually.
i had 1 s m a left.
look in version 18 and it still shows i have one s m a left. in 2018 it says
zero.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Mike B.]

Hi Again JM,

I forgot to add, no Edge is not available in Widows 7.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


Mike
She was asking about Edge, specifically. Does that even work in Windows 7? I
was under the impression it's for Win 10 only; maybe 8.1.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 30, 2017 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

Hi Rebecca,

We weren't notified in the usual way about that update, .4350, because it
was a very small update, but Eric Damry of VFO did tell this list that the
update was coming, & what day it would be available.  I post all updates &
direct download for them whenever I find out about them, but I can be a
little slow about it being I'm not up to date like all the cool / hip
people!  LOL

Anyways, I'm running Windows 7, & selecting / copy text does work with Jaws
2018.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

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you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Mike B.]

Hi Jm,

I misunderstood the question.  I thought she meant selecting & copying in 
general.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


Mike
She was asking about Edge, specifically. Does that even work in Windows 7? I
was under the impression it's for Win 10 only; maybe 8.1.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 30, 2017 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

Hi Rebecca,

We weren't notified in the usual way about that update, .4350, because it
was a very small update, but Eric Damry of VFO did tell this list that the
update was coming, & what day it would be available.  I post all updates &
direct download for them whenever I find out about them, but I can be a
little slow about it being I'm not up to date like all the cool / hip
people!  LOL

Anyways, I'm running Windows 7, & selecting / copy text does work with Jaws
2018.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

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From: "Rebecca Lineberger" 
To: "jaws user's list" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to access list of available networks since upgrading to Windows 10 Creators Update

[Humberto Rodriguez]

Hello Christopher:

Try doing this:

Windows+I
Tab once and right arrow to "Network and Internet"
Press Enter
Tab, you will land on "Status"
Tab twice more and yoou will land on "Show available networks"
Press Enter
Tab once and you will see the available networks

HTH,

Humberto



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Sabine, ONH Consulting
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to access list of available networks since
upgrading to Windows 10 Creators Update

Hello all. I ran into an issue with JAWS that rendered me unable to log on
to my hotel's Wi-Fi network at our state's NFB Convention this weekend.

 

I am running Windows 10 Creators Update with the latest version of Jaws 18.
When I try to access the list of available networks in the system tray with
my laptop, I can't access the list of available networks. In control Panel
in the Network and Settings Center, I can arrow to a link for list of
Available Networks, but when I press enter or spacebar to activate it, Jaws
just says unavailable. I have tried this in Narrator and was eventually able
to connect to my hotel's logon screen after closing JAWS and entering
Control Panel with Narrator Exclusively. However, when I accessed the logon
screen, closed narrator and ran JAWS 18, I discovered that the virtual
cursor wouldn't activate and I couldn't log on to the WIFI network. I've
only noticed this issue since the Creators Update. I also just installed
Windows 2018 and the issue still exists. I called Freedom Scientific
Technical Support and was just advised to upgrade to 2018. The Microsoft
Disability Answer Desk was no help. Is this a bug that could be replicated
and reported to VO?

 

Thanks.

 

Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[JM Casey]

Mike
She was asking about Edge, specifically. Does that even work in Windows 7? I
was under the impression it's for Win 10 only; maybe 8.1.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 30, 2017 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

Hi Rebecca,

We weren't notified in the usual way about that update, .4350, because it
was a very small update, but Eric Damry of VFO did tell this list that the
update was coming, & what day it would be available.  I post all updates &
direct download for them whenever I find out about them, but I can be a
little slow about it being I'm not up to date like all the cool / hip
people!  LOL

Anyways, I'm running Windows 7, & selecting / copy text does work with Jaws
2018.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

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[JAWS-Users] Outlook autofill

[George Martinez Sr]

I thought I saw someone saying that autofill in the outlook "To" field was
broken again?
I just downloaded my version of JAWS 2018 64bit and now autofill works
perfectly in my Outlook 2016 "To" field.  
George
 
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email    ga.marti...@cox.net
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Mike B.]

Hi Rebecca,

We weren't notified in the usual way about that update, .4350, because it 
was a very small update, but Eric Damry of VFO did tell this list that the 
update was coming, & what day it would be available.  I post all updates & 
direct download for them whenever I find out about them, but I can be a 
little slow about it being I'm not up to date like all the cool / hip 
people!  LOL

Anyways, I'm running Windows 7, & selecting / copy text does work with Jaws 
2018.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions


I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Eric Damery]

Text selection and copy/paste is not yet working in Edge with JAWS. I suggest 
using one of the other browsers as your default. Support for Chrome, IE, and 
Firefox is much more robust in these with assistive technology today.

Regards,
Eric Damery


On Oct 30, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Adrian Spratt 
> wrote:

Rebecca,

A partial response. First, I knew of the October update only because another 
contributor here, Mike B, posted not only the alert, but also the download 
links and the improvements list. You can count on him to keep us advised of 
every release.
FYI, JAWS uses the word "version" to refer to the basic number (such as 17, 18, 
now 2018). Periodically "releases" or new "builds" are released, and this is 
where you get the four digits following the decimal point.

I'm a long-term JAWS user, but like you, I wait a while to make sure a new 
version doesn't have something unpleasant lurking in it. I'm grateful that 
other JAWS users are more eager to keep up to date.

Others will have to answer your Edge questions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may be 
questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the Help 
menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found this on 
the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365 
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365 
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while navigating 
on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two 
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows 
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October 
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan to 
download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall Creator's 
update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there is 
no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge, JAWS 
says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to 
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to 
you.

Aldous Huxley



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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Dennis Long]

The cd's are always later.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

Got the download but not the CD

-Original Message-
From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have to
reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt to
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version of
JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you
will be prompted to authorize the new install.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


>Good question. Never got my.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To: 
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD
>
>
> Hello list,
>
>   Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
> version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. 
> Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as 
> easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.
>
>Dave
>
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Adrian Spratt]

Rebecca,

A partial response. First, I knew of the October update only because another 
contributor here, Mike B, posted not only the alert, but also the download 
links and the improvements list. You can count on him to keep us advised of 
every release.
FYI, JAWS uses the word "version" to refer to the basic number (such as 17, 18, 
now 2018). Periodically "releases" or new "builds" are released, and this is 
where you get the four digits following the decimal point. 

I'm a long-term JAWS user, but like you, I wait a while to make sure a new 
version doesn't have something unpleasant lurking in it. I'm grateful that 
other JAWS users are more eager to keep up to date. 

Others will have to answer your Edge questions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may be 
questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the Help 
menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found this on 
the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365 
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365 
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while navigating 
on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two 
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows 
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October 
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan to 
download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall Creator's 
update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks. 

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there is 
no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge, JAWS 
says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.  

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to 
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca 

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to 
you.

Aldous Huxley

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[JM Casey]

I don't run JAWS 2018, but I think you'll find the same issue with Edge and
the virtual buffer, which has become difficult to implement. The same sort
of trouble is, I suppose, coming to Firefox soon.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: October 30, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks. 

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.  

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca 

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

Aldous Huxley

 

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[JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks. 

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.  

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca 

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

Aldous Huxley

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Holger Fiallo]

Got the download but not the CD

-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have to
reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt to
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version of
JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you
will be prompted to authorize the new install.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



   Good question. Never got my.

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To: 
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. 
Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as 
easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.


   Dave


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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Andy Baracco]

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you 
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD 
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you 
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have to 
reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually 
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt to 
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version of 
JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you 
will be prompted to authorize the new install.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



   Good question. Never got my.

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To: 
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. 
Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as 
easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.


   Dave


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Re: [JAWS-Users] messages going to the spam folder

[net bat66]

its already on no filtering.
but i didn't think about blocked senders. i'll check for this.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] messages going to the spam folder

hello;

try the following, it's been awhile since I've used windows live mail.

alt+f/o/s
here you land into the safety options page,

which box is checked.
you could probably use the first of 4.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messages going to the spam folder

why do i have some users emails all going to my gmail spam folder with gmail

and wlm?
i do not have any spam filters and i heven went directly to the gmail web
mail
and told it that these messages are not spam and they still go to the spam
folder.
one poster is not useing the cc or bcc field  either.
with wlm all the messages in these fields go to spam.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Eric Damery]

The JAWS 2018 DVD shipped in the USA when the SMA posts will be going out in 
the mail the end of this week. But as Adrian points out, the build is already 
updated on the Download page so for anyone who has downloaded and installed 
already, the DVD is something to put aside. No need to install from it.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
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www.vfogroup.com


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

Dave, we're not putting up with you. It's you who are being gracious after 
having been forced to make the switch. 
VFO has sent out a CD for every new version of JAWS to present, and I haven't 
heard anything different regarding 2018. However, I usually find that by the 
time the CD arrives, VFO has already released an update, and I rely on those 
updates to fix problems. I'd recommend downloading the current release from the 
VFO/FS website. 
But either way, don't discard the CD and its container. I believe new users get 
an authorization disc or some other item that you will need to keep safe. If 
I'm mistaken, I count on others to correct me.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Pearson
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Hello list,

   Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. Then 
I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as easy to use 
as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.

Dave


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Re: [JAWS-Users] messages going to the spam folder

[David Whitehead]

hello;

try the following, it's been awhile since I've used windows live mail.

alt+f/o/s
here you land into the safety options page,

which box is checked.
you could probably use the first of 4.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] messages going to the spam folder

why do i have some users emails all going to my gmail spam folder with gmail

and wlm?
i do not have any spam filters and i heven went directly to the gmail web
mail 
and told it that these messages are not spam and they still go to the spam 
folder.
one poster is not useing the cc or bcc field  either.
with wlm all the messages in these fields go to spam. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Adrian Spratt]

Dave, we're not putting up with you. It's you who are being gracious after 
having been forced to make the switch. 
VFO has sent out a CD for every new version of JAWS to present, and I haven't 
heard anything different regarding 2018. However, I usually find that by the 
time the CD arrives, VFO has already released an update, and I rely on those 
updates to fix problems. I'd recommend downloading the current release from the 
VFO/FS website. 
But either way, don't discard the CD and its container. I believe new users get 
an authorization disc or some other item that you will need to keep safe. If 
I'm mistaken, I count on others to correct me.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Pearson
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Hello list,

   Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. Then 
I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as easy to use 
as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.

Dave


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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Holger Fiallo]

   Good question. Never got my.

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD 




Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a 
CD for version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window 
eyes would be. Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking 
to much, it is as easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up 
with us new users.


   Dave


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[JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[David Pearson]

Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a 
CD for version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window 
eyes would be. Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking 
to much, it is as easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up 
with us new users.


   Dave


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[JAWS-Users] messages going to the spam folder

[net bat66]

why do i have some users emails all going to my gmail spam folder with gmail 
and wlm?
i do not have any spam filters and i heven went directly to the gmail web mail 
and told it that these messages are not spam and they still go to the spam 
folder.

one poster is not useing the cc or bcc field  either.
with wlm all the messages in these fields go to spam. 



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[JAWS-Users] who is getting my messages?

[net bat66]

when you reply to your incomeing messages you have to delete the 
jaws-users.com; >; in the to list and copy and 
paste the email address from the  from field to the to field. then it will go 
to the original sendar instead of to the list.
in the case of the list shift control  r, which is to reply to all does not 
work for this list with wlm.
-Original Message- 
From: Ted Larson

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

Thanks Net Bat.  I will check into these things.  By the way, is my
reply here just going to Net Bat, or, to the entire list?  Regards:  Ted
Larson


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

does it run in demo mode after the computer is rebooted?
look in the about menu to find out your current status would be in the 2018
version;.; does it say it is a beta?
see if the unlock code was transfered to the new version.
it may not realy be there in the about menu item.
maybe you can activate it with your unlock code manually.
i had 1 s m a left.
look in version 18 and it still shows i have one s m a left. in 2018 it says
zero.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

[JM Casey]

Oops. Sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet and guess I didn't properly read
the post. Although with recent Firefox changes I'm considering switching to
Chrome full-time, I have not tried facebook with this browser.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: October 30, 2017 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

As stated this is chrome specific. I don't know it is a jaws issue since I
see it when using nvda.

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On October 30, 2017 12:29:47 PM "JM Casey" 
wrote:

> I use m.facebook.com all the time (yes, the regular site works alright 
> with jAWS 18, which I got this spring, but I prefer the tiny interface 
> as there's much less junk on it). I do not have this problem with 
> shared links; they usually (read all the time as far I know) activate. 
> Now, if I could just figure out how to issue carriage returns in 
> comments on this version of the site
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: October 30, 2017 11:26 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018
>
> It is normal FS does not cares Facebook mobile website, as the desktop 
> one is much more functional in terms of features and, since 2012, 
> accessibility is enhancing a lot.
>
> 2017-10-30 11:12 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :
>
>> I reported a bug last summer in Jaws18 if you are on m.facebook.com 
>> and press enter on the Share link nothing happens.  FS confirmed this 
>> as a bug and it is still not fixed.
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

[Dennis Long]

As stated this is chrome specific. I don't know it is a jaws issue since I
see it when using nvda.

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On October 30, 2017 12:29:47 PM "JM Casey"  wrote:

> I use m.facebook.com all the time (yes, the regular site works alright with
> jAWS 18, which I got this spring, but I prefer the tiny interface as there's
> much less junk on it). I do not have this problem with shared links; they
> usually (read all the time as far I know) activate. Now, if I could just
> figure out how to issue carriage returns in comments on this version of the
> site
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: October 30, 2017 11:26 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018
>
> It is normal FS does not cares Facebook mobile website, as the desktop one
> is much more functional in terms of features and, since 2012, accessibility
> is enhancing a lot.
>
> 2017-10-30 11:12 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :
>
>> I reported a bug last summer in Jaws18 if you are on m.facebook.com
>> and press enter on the Share link nothing happens.  FS confirmed this
>> as a bug and it is still not fixed.
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners

[Kimsan]

No.


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blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/
Also, you may like our page on facebook at
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners

Kimsan,

Are those banners the undecipherable items showing in a list of suggested
past purchases? Always wondered about those.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 08:55
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners


Hi,



Amazon banners are recognized via google chrome and firefox.  However, using
internet explorer, I was curious to know as to why these same amazon banners
are not recognized via internet explorer?

Jaws does not read them at all.

Jaws 18 and windows 10.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

[JM Casey]

I use m.facebook.com all the time (yes, the regular site works alright with
jAWS 18, which I got this spring, but I prefer the tiny interface as there's
much less junk on it). I do not have this problem with shared links; they
usually (read all the time as far I know) activate. Now, if I could just
figure out how to issue carriage returns in comments on this version of the
site



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: October 30, 2017 11:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

It is normal FS does not cares Facebook mobile website, as the desktop one
is much more functional in terms of features and, since 2012, accessibility
is enhancing a lot.

2017-10-30 11:12 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :

> I reported a bug last summer in Jaws18 if you are on m.facebook.com 
> and press enter on the Share link nothing happens.  FS confirmed this 
> as a bug and it is still not fixed.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] We Want More JAWS Webinars!

[JM Casey]

I think they are quite good, but would be ok with fewer and a somewhat
higher quality of production. What topics would you be interested in,
particularly?

BTW this is a mailing list for jAWS users; I know someone from FS/VFO at
least does read this, but you would probably get better results sending your
feedback directly to them. This would seem like a good topic to discuss here
among the users though. What webinars in particular do people on the list
here enjoy?

I thought the one on Adobe reader was quite helpful setting me straight on a
couple of things, though it was a bit rambly and long, as these things tend
to be (in my opinion).



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Slagle
Sent: October 30, 2017 11:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] We Want More JAWS Webinars!

The live webinars and their archives are extremely useful. 
The rate of webinar production has been drastically reduced. 
Please give us more, many more, webinars! 
Jim Slagle

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners

[Dave...Oregonian]

Kimsan,

Are those banners the undecipherable items showing in a list of suggested 
past purchases? Always wondered about those.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 08:55
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners


Hi,



Amazon banners are recognized via google chrome and firefox.  However, using
internet explorer, I was curious to know as to why these same amazon banners
are not recognized via internet explorer?

Jaws does not read them at all.

Jaws 18 and windows 10.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

[amcarr1]

I am finding that there are some differnces in how my control keys work on
the various Dell laptops that I am currently using at home and work.  Given
that 3 of them are new to me, I have not been able to sort it out.  For
example, I do know that there is not an application key on any of them.
Yes, Shift+F10 still works, but now Fn+Right Control works as well.  It does
not work on the old E6440, but it does work on the new E7440.  I still need
to test it on the E6450.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Laura:
Thanks for the reply. I am using a Dell laptop keyboard, but I know that the
other keys work because I use them quite often in Word documents.

-Original Message-
From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Hi Jerry,

If you're using a desktop keyboard, have you tried another keyboard to see
if maybe the keyboard isn't working?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Morning all.

I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting
JAWS as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the left
of the spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the right
of the spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in advance.
I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] jaws reading banners

[Kimsan]

Hi,

 

Amazon banners are recognized via google chrome and firefox.  However, using
internet explorer, I was curious to know as to why these same amazon banners
are not recognized via internet explorer?

Jaws does not read them at all.

Jaws 18 and windows 10.

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] We Want More JAWS Webinars!

[Jim Slagle]

The live webinars and their archives are extremely useful. 
The rate of webinar production has been drastically reduced. 
Please give us more, many more, webinars! 
Jim Slagle

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

[Dave...Oregonian]

Jerry,

As I said, they expire when you use them. Call VFO and discuss, since it's 
still clear as mud.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 08:30
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry


Thanks to both you and Eric. Can you tell me how long an upgrade is good
for/available?

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

Jerry,

Each time you install a major version of JAWS, one of your upgrades will
disappear. If you install JAWS 18, you will be down to 1 upgrade. When you
install JAWS 2018 you will be down to zero upgrades.

If you never install a JAWS version above 17, you will always have two
upgrades available. However you will not get any upgrades beyond JAWS 2018,
because your SMA allows you two upgrades past your current version of JAWS
17. If you want to go beyond JAWS 2018, I recommend you install both JAWS 18
and JAWS 2018, and contact VFO to purchase a new pair of upgrades. You won't
be able to go beyond JAWS 2018 if you don't purchase any new SMA. And I
suspect that not purchasing new SMA later this year will mean you will pay
big $$$ if/when you finally do upgrade past JAWS 2018.

If this is as clear as mud, call VFO at 800-444-4443 in the U.S. or your
local dealer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:46
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry


Morning all.

I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2
available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these
upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.
Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

Thanks to both you and Eric. Can you tell me how long an upgrade is good 
for/available?


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

Jerry,

Each time you install a major version of JAWS, one of your upgrades will
disappear. If you install JAWS 18, you will be down to 1 upgrade. When you
install JAWS 2018 you will be down to zero upgrades.

If you never install a JAWS version above 17, you will always have two
upgrades available. However you will not get any upgrades beyond JAWS 2018,
because your SMA allows you two upgrades past your current version of JAWS
17. If you want to go beyond JAWS 2018, I recommend you install both JAWS 18
and JAWS 2018, and contact VFO to purchase a new pair of upgrades. You won't
be able to go beyond JAWS 2018 if you don't purchase any new SMA. And I
suspect that not purchasing new SMA later this year will mean you will pay
big $$$ if/when you finally do upgrade past JAWS 2018.

If this is as clear as mud, call VFO at 800-444-4443 in the U.S. or your
local dealer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:46
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry


Morning all.

I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2
available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these
upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.
Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

[Fernando Gregoire]

It is normal FS does not cares Facebook mobile website, as the desktop one
is much more functional in terms of features and, since 2012, accessibility
is enhancing a lot.

2017-10-30 11:12 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :

> I reported a bug last summer in Jaws18 if you are on m.facebook.com and
> press enter on the Share link nothing happens.  FS confirmed this as a bug
> and it is still not fixed.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

[Steve]

In your settings, do you have Jaws set to differentiate between left and 
right pairs of keys?
Go to Jaws search with insert-6, press control-shift-d to open the default 
list; then search for differentiate between, and see if that is checked.  If 
so, then uncheck it so you can use either control key.


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness



Morning all.

I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting 
JAWS as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the 
left of the spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the 
right of the spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in 
advance. I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

[Dave...Oregonian]

Jerry,

Each time you install a major version of JAWS, one of your upgrades will 
disappear. If you install JAWS 18, you will be down to 1 upgrade. When you 
install JAWS 2018 you will be down to zero upgrades.

If you never install a JAWS version above 17, you will always have two 
upgrades available. However you will not get any upgrades beyond JAWS 2018, 
because your SMA allows you two upgrades past your current version of JAWS 
17. If you want to go beyond JAWS 2018, I recommend you install both JAWS 18 
and JAWS 2018, and contact VFO to purchase a new pair of upgrades. You won't 
be able to go beyond JAWS 2018 if you don't purchase any new SMA. And I 
suspect that not purchasing new SMA later this year will mean you will pay 
big $$$ if/when you finally do upgrade past JAWS 2018.

If this is as clear as mud, call VFO at 800-444-4443 in the U.S. or your 
local dealer.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:46
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry


Morning all.

I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2 
available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these 
upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

[Eric Damery]

Look at the about box for JAWS 17 in your JAWS help Menu. If it states you have 
SMA 2 remaining, then just download and install JAWS 2018 and it will work now. 
Otherwise, choose "update authorization" in your help menu and let it update 
your authorization key install on the computer. It should then reflect SMA 2 
remaining if that is what you have.

If this is still not clear, the Tech Support people will be happy to assist you 
on this.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

Morning all.

I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2 
available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these 
upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

[Dave...Oregonian]

Jerry,

You may have a setting you need to change...

1. Insert +6 to open settings center.
2. Press Ctrl+Shift+D to enable default settings.
3. Type the word Keyboard in the edit field.
4. Tab into the list.
5. Arrow down until you hear Keyboard.
6. Right arrow to open this group.
7. Right arrow to open the General group.
8. F6 to jump over to the dialog window.
9. Tab until you hear  Differentiate Between Left and Right Paired Keys.
10. Make sure this is unchecked.
11. F6 to go back to the Settings Center List.
12. Tab to OK.
13. Press Enter.

See if that fixes the problem.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 07:36
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness


Laura:
Thanks for the reply. I am using a Dell laptop keyboard, but I know that the
other keys work because I use them quite often in Word documents.

-Original Message- 
From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Hi Jerry,

If you're using a desktop keyboard, have you tried another keyboard to see
if maybe the keyboard isn't working?

Laura


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Morning all.

I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting
JAWS as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the left
of the spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the right
of the spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in advance.
I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS SMA Upgrades Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

Morning all.

I was checking on how many SMA upgrades I have, and I found out I have 2 
available. Can anyone instruct me on what the process for getting these 
upgrades. I am currently running JAWS 17, and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
Thanks.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

[jyandt.martin]

Laura:
Thanks for the reply. I am using a Dell laptop keyboard, but I know that the 
other keys work because I use them quite often in Word documents.


-Original Message- 
From: Laura Richardson

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Hi Jerry,

If you're using a desktop keyboard, have you tried another keyboard to see
if maybe the keyboard isn't working?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Morning all.

I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting
JAWS as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the left
of the spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the right
of the spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in advance.
I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] bug still present in JAWS2018

[Dennis Long]

I reported a bug last summer in Jaws18 if you are on m.facebook.com and
press enter on the Share link nothing happens.  FS confirmed this as a bug
and it is still not fixed.  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

[Dennis Long]

I went to the startup wizard I didn't see that thus why I am asking.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

Hi Denis,
JAWS 2018 ask if you want import settings from a previous version when you
run it for the first time or when you launc the Startup Wizard.
If you answered No, you can manually access the utility by pressing
INSERT+J, ALT+U, I and, in the Import/Export sub menu, choose the option
for importing settings.

2017-10-30 2:54 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :

> Hi, how do I import my settings from Jaws18 into jaws 2018?
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

[Laura Richardson]

Hi Jerry,

If you're using a desktop keyboard, have you tried another keyboard to see
if maybe the keyboard isn't working?

Laura
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

Morning all.

I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting
JAWS as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the left
of the spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the right
of the spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in advance.
I have JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Denis,
JAWS 2018 ask if you want import settings from a previous version when you
run it for the first time or when you launc the Startup Wizard.
If you answered No, you can manually access the utility by pressing
INSERT+J, ALT+U, I and, in the Import/Export sub menu, choose the option
for importing settings.

2017-10-30 2:54 GMT-03:00 Dennis Long :

> Hi, how do I import my settings from Jaws18 into jaws 2018?
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

[Dennis Long]

The latest version of Jaws.  Newer then Jaws18.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ann M Medlar
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

I have j4350 and FS said latest edition.
What is J2018?
  

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

Hi, how do I import my settings from Jaws18 into jaws 2018?

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Weirdness

[jyandt.martin]

Morning all.

I was wanting to know something. I have the keyboard commands for starting JAWS 
as Control Alt J. Now, when I use the control and alt keys on the left of the 
spacebar, nothing. But when I use the same combinations on the right of the 
spacebar, it works. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks in advance. I have 
JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] eset and google chrome

[Humberto Rodriguez]

Perhaps because the protocol used is HTTPS:// instead of HTTP://?
Humberto


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Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:31 AM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] eset and google chrome

Eset has a nice security feature thatincripts your information when logging 
in. It automatically launches when using I.E. It does not run with Google. 
Any eset users have a suggestion? Thanks


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

[Ted Larson]

Thanks Net Bat.  I will check into these things.  By the way, is my
reply here just going to Net Bat, or, to the entire list?  Regards:  Ted
Larson


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

does it run in demo mode after the computer is rebooted?
look in the about menu to find out your current status would be in the 2018
version;.; does it say it is a beta?
see if the unlock code was transfered to the new version.
it may not realy be there in the about menu item.
maybe you can activate it with your unlock code manually.
i had 1 s m a left.
look in version 18 and it still shows i have one s m a left. in 2018 it says
zero.

-Original Message-
From: Ted Larson
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 8:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

First, thanks to Net bat for clarification showing there would be version 18
and version 2018 as icons on the desktop after updating to the latest
version of Jaws.  Now, version 2018 comes up at startup.  It said that the
authorization code was successful.  However, it seems to be in a forty
minute demo mode.  I have s m a s  remaining from window eyes.  What gives?
Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
s

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

there should be 2 jaws icons on your desktopp now v18 and v 2018.
but you have to load the setup wizard or what ever its called  while the
version you want to load and tell it to load automatically on boot up  on
the log on screen,for current user etc. then v18 or v2018 will be the
default jaws that will load.

-Original Message-
From: Ted Larson
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 8:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Do I Have the Latest Version of Jaws Installed?

Dear List:

I did the installation process for Jaws 2018.  Everything seemed to go well.
Then I went into Jaws Help and then went into About to find the version
number.  The version that it read out to me was 18.0.4321

Is this the correct number for the latest Jaws version?  Thanks.  Regards:
Ted Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

[Ann M Medlar]

I have j4350 and FS said latest edition.
What is J2018?
  

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to import settings into jaws 2018

Hi, how do I import my settings from Jaws18 into jaws 2018?

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[JAWS-Users] eset and google chrome

[Lenny McHugh]

Eset has a nice security feature thatincripts your information when logging 
in. It automatically launches when using I.E. It does not run with Google. 
Any eset users have a suggestion? Thanks


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