Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-11 Thread rich

Terrific, thanks so much!

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "inthane" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


there are crude ways and neater ways to do this in XP. I use the 
applications available from:

www.jfwlite.com

the owner died and the site is no longer updated, but it is full of 
windows XP goodies, that are still quite usable and work quite well!


EBackup will make backupps of all your emails and your I.E. favorites, and 
DBCopy will copy out all your saved posts and the like to .eml files for 
you in batches.


if you need more info just ask

hth,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start was 
checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-10 Thread inthane
there are crude ways and neater ways to do this in XP. I use the 
applications available from:

www.jfwlite.com

the owner died and the site is no longer updated, but it is full of windows 
XP goodies, that are still quite usable and work quite well!


EBackup will make backupps of all your emails and your I.E. favorites, and 
DBCopy will copy out all your saved posts and the like to .eml files for you 
in batches.


if you need more info just ask

hth,
inthane
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start was 
checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-07 Thread rich

Again, many thanks.
I must have been hitting the wrong download link.
It installed.
It looks like I will have to spend some time figuring how to negotiate and 
use this product.


rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,

You need to look for the download now link from that page, it is right 
above the 4Star rating in the links list.


When I initiated the download, I got the IE infobar pop-up and I had to 
hit alt-n and then the application key to allow the download to proceed.


If you successfully downloaded the file, it will be in the folder where 
you typically place your downloads.  The file starts with if-en-trial I 
think.


- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse 
would not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with 
using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that 
aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That 
will kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, 
when you go through the startup list, make sure you know which 
programs you are unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system 
critical, as the sound manager is for us, and of course, as an 
anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored 
under your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, 
application Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook 
Express folder. Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show 
hidden files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents 
and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The 
image will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including 
the Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to 
do image files as often, but you should back up your data in the 
Documents and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a 
daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if 
I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

T

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-07 Thread Steve

Rich,

You need to look for the download now link from that page, it is right above 
the 4Star rating in the links list.


When I initiated the download, I got the IE infobar pop-up and I had to hit 
alt-n and then the application key to allow the download to proceed.


If you successfully downloaded the file, it will be in the folder where you 
typically place your downloads.  The file starts with if-en-trial I think.


- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with 
using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that 
aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That 
will kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, 
when you go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs 
you are unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, 
as the sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program 
is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application 
Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express 
folder. Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden 
files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents 
and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily 
basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if 
I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you 
get a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods 
you can try, but many of them are advanced.


ht

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-07 Thread tim
Try using windows search and give it the file name or just use *.pdf. 
That should bring up all of them on the computer and tell you where 
if its listed, and if not try to download again.


At 09:52 PM 2/6/2012, you wrote:

I could not find it.
I was in "My Docs" and opened up my received files and it was empty.
Then, I went to my C drive and found "my downloads" but the image 
was not there.


Any other thoughts on where I could look?
For some reason, I don't think the download went through. I tried it twice.

Thanks.

rich
- Original Message - From: "tim" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Try looking in download folder. You have to install it to see it in 
other places.


At 09:24 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there 
was no other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - From: "rich" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the 
mouse would not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to 
the problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong 
with using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra 
programs that aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, 
but I can educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet 
somehow you unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading 
by mistake.  That will kill sound every time after Windows 
loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through the startup 
list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so 
you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound 
manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are 
stored under your documents and settings, Username, Local 
Settings, application Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, 
Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. Unless you have Task and 
Folder options set to show hidden files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your 
Documents and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program 
that takes an image of your hard drive and stores it on 
external media.  The image will restore everything if there is 
a severe crash, including the Windows System and all your 
installed programs.  You don't have to do image files as often, 
but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings 
folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody 
endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - From: "Rich Hamel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that 
"selective" start was checked. My other options were "normal" 
and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 
options said "checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure 
how or if I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-06 Thread rich

I could not find it.
I was in "My Docs" and opened up my received files and it was empty.
Then, I went to my C drive and found "my downloads" but the image was not 
there.


Any other thoughts on where I could look?
For some reason, I don't think the download went through. I tried it twice.

Thanks.

rich
- Original Message - 
From: "tim" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Try looking in download folder. You have to install it to see it in other 
places.


At 09:24 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - From: "rich" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with 
using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that 
aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That 
will kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, 
when you go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs 
you are unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, 
as the sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program 
is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application 
Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express 
folder. Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden 
files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents 
and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily 
basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - From: "Rich Hamel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if 
I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you 
get a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods 
you can try, but many of them are ad

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-06 Thread tim
Try looking in download folder. You have to install it to see it in 
other places.


At 09:24 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there 
was no other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - From: "rich" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse 
would not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to 
the problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong 
with using selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra 
programs that aren't necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but 
I can educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow 
you unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by 
mistake.  That will kill sound every time after Windows 
loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through the startup list, 
make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so you don't 
dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is 
for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored 
under your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, 
application Data, Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, 
Outlook Express folder. Unless you have Task and Folder options 
set to show hidden files, you won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your 
Documents and Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that 
takes an image of your hard drive and stores it on external 
media.  The image will restore everything if there is a severe 
crash, including the Windows System and all your installed 
programs.  You don't have to do image files as often, but you 
should back up your data in the Documents and Settings folder 
more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody 
endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Hamel" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" 
start was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options 
said "checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how 
or if I can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until 
you get a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several 
methods you can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - From: "Rich Hamel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Thanks for the suggestion.
I found a web site that had image for windows with a free 30 day trial.
http://download.cnet.com/Image-for-Windows/3000-2242_4-10149389.html
I clicked on the download link and after it announced 100 % there was no 
other information on what to do.

I could not find the program in my docs or programs.
How would I know if I actually downloaded it?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will 
kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you 
go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are 
unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the 
sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
----- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get 
a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing hap

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Great.
BTW, did you see the "weird---", message?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you 
unchecked the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will 
kill sound every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you 
go through the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are 
unchecking so you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the 
sound manager is for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes 
an image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image 
will restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the 
Windows System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do 
image files as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents 
and Settings folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.
When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O 
E.


So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get 
a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://w

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Steve

Image For Windows is good.
- Original Message - 
From: "rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would 
not work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you unchecked 
the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will kill sound 
every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through 
the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so 
you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is 
for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes an 
image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image will 
restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the Windows 
System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do image files 
as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings 
folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start 
was checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get 
a dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

I got it to work by using the F 8 key.

Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Steve,

You're right!  But, if his keyboard isn't working how is he going to press
the F8 key?  I ask this only because I don't know if the Function keys 
work

if the main keyboard is not working.  Take care.
Mike

 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from
within
 Windows at this point.
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Mike & Barbara" 

 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 > Hi Rich,
 >
 > Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
 > following so, try at your own risk!
 >
 > From: 2.g.i
 > Hi every one
 >
 > Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.
 >
 > To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
 > mode, you can do the following.
 > press windows r to open the run box
 > in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
 > the system configuration window will open
 > either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
 > or use control tab & find the boot tab
 > its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
 > once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
 > boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
 > then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
 > use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
 > again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
 > the internet you have no securety running.
 > now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
 > on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
 > will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
 > On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
 > log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
 > the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to
say
 > ok.
 > You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
 > dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
 > the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
 > In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
 > configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
 > tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
 > Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
 > to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe
mode.
 > If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.
 >
 > Hope this helps
 >
 >  - Original Message - 
 >  From: Rich Hamel

 >  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 >  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
 >  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >
 >
 >  Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?
 >
 >  Rich
 >  - Original Message - 
 >  From: "Flor Lynch" 

 >  To: 
 >  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
 >  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >
 >
 >  > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
 >  > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working
correctly.
 >  >
 >  > - Original Message - 
 >  > From: "Rich Hamel" 

 >  > To: 
 >  > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
 >  > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >> Hi all and a big help request.
 >  >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
 >  >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
 >  >> JAWS never starts talking.
 >  >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
 >  >> I've waited for over an hour.
 >  >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
 >  >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
 >  >>
 >  >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
 >  >>
 >  >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
 >  >>
 >  >>
 >  >> Thanks so much.
 >  >>
 >  >> Rich
 >  >>
 >  >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 >  >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 >  >>
 &

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Mike & Barbara
Hi Steve,

You're right!  But, if his keyboard isn't working how is he going to press 
the F8 key?  I ask this only because I don't know if the Function keys work 
if the main keyboard is not working.  Take care.
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from 
within
  Windows at this point.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Mike & Barbara" 
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  > Hi Rich,
  >
  > Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
  > following so, try at your own risk!
  >
  > From: 2.g.i
  > Hi every one
  >
  > Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.
  >
  > To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
  > mode, you can do the following.
  > press windows r to open the run box
  > in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
  > the system configuration window will open
  > either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
  > or use control tab & find the boot tab
  > its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
  > once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
  > boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
  > then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
  > use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
  > again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
  > the internet you have no securety running.
  > now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
  > on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
  > will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
  > On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
  > log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
  > the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to 
say
  > ok.
  > You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
  > dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
  > the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
  > In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
  > configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
  > tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
  > Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
  > to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe 
mode.
  > If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.
  >
  > Hope this helps
  >
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: Rich Hamel
  >  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  >  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
  >
  >
  >  Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?
  >
  >  Rich
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: "Flor Lynch" 
  >  To: 
  >  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
  >
  >
  >  > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
  >  > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.
  >  >
  >  > - Original Message - 
  >  > From: "Rich Hamel" 
  >  > To: 
  >  > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
  >  > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >> Hi all and a big help request.
  >  >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
  >  >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
  >  >> JAWS never starts talking.
  >  >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
  >  >> I've waited for over an hour.
  >  >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
  >  >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
  >  >>
  >  >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
  >  >>
  >  >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
  >  >>
  >  >>
  >  >> Thanks so much.
  >  >>
  >  >> Rich
  >  >>
  >  >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  >  >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
  >  >>
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  >  > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
  >
  >  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  >  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
  > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread rich

Thanks for the info.
What program do you recommend to take an image for back up?
By the way, when the problem began, my sighted wife said the mouse would not 
work as well as the keyboard.
I had not made any changes to the configuration manager prior to the 
problem.

Interestingly, after rebooting, Microsoft ran a "check disc"?
Thanks again.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you unchecked 
the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will kill sound 
every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through 
the startup list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so 
you don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is 
for us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under 
your documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder. 
Unless you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you 
won't see these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes an 
image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image will 
restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the Windows 
System and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do image files 
as often, but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings 
folder more often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to 
live at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start was 
checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
----- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Steve
Ok, lets start with selective startup.  There's nothing wrong with using 
selective startup, that's what I do to keep extra programs that aren't 
necessary from loading.


I can't figure out why you said the keyboard wasn't working, but I can 
educatedly guess why Jaws wasn't working.  I'll bet somehow you unchecked 
the REaltech sound manager from loading by mistake.  That will kill sound 
every time after Windows loads.  So the bottom line, when you go through the 
startup list, make sure you know which programs you are unchecking so you 
don't dump one that might be system critical, as the sound manager is for 
us, and of course, as an anti-virus program is.


As to your second question, your Outlook Express files are stored under your 
documents and settings, Username, Local Settings, application Data, 
Identities, alphanumeric string, Microsoft, Outlook Express folder.  Unless 
you have Task and Folder options set to show hidden files, you won't see 
these files.


However, if you set up your backup solution to backup your Documents and 
Settings folder, it will back up your OE .dbx files as well.


The other type of backup you can use of course is a program that takes an 
image of your hard drive and stores it on external media.  The image will 
restore everything if there is a severe crash, including the Windows System 
and all your installed programs.  You don't have to do image files as often, 
but you should back up your data in the Documents and Settings folder more 
often, as that likely changes on a daily basis.
"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live 
at the expense of everybody else."

-Frederic Bastiat

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start was 
checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I 
can copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you 
can try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Rich Hamel

Thanks all!! You guys really helped me on this one.
I've seemed to have gotten the computer working with your help.

To complete, I went in to msconfig and noticed that "selective" start was 
checked. My other options were "normal" and one other one.

What should be checked?
That computer is XP home.
My second computer is XP pro and when I checked , all 3 options said 
"checked".

The main computer would only allow one option to be checked.

Another question.
I have, I think, an external hard drive to back up information.
I am able to copy the C drive in to this but, I am not sure how or if I can 
copy my e mails from Outlook Express.

When in O E, the options to copy to folders were for folders within O E.

So, how can I back up e mails?

Thanks again for all of the help.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you can 
try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread Rich Hamel

Steve, the mouse doesn't work and JAWS does not come on either.
Thanks for any thoughts.
I'm very open to any suggestions, especially simple ones.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Uh, Rich.  Another thought, maybe you better make sure the keyboard is 
actually frozen, as that is what your first message implied.  If its not, 
then there are other possibilities, including some pretty simple ones


.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



That's right.
I did try the "windows" key with "R" but did not notice any change.
I did not confirm this with my wife.

I'll try the F8 key and see if this works.

Thanks, everyone,  for all of the suggestions.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from 
within Windows at this point.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Rich,

Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
following so, try at your own risk!

From: 2.g.i
Hi every one

Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.

To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
mode, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
the system configuration window will open
either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
or use control tab & find the boot tab
its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
the internet you have no securety running.
now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to 
say

ok.
You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe 
mode.

If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.

Hope this helps....

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Rich Hamel

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Flor Lynch" 

 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
 > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.

 >
 > - Original Message - 
 > From: "Rich Hamel" 

 > To: 
 > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
 > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >
 >
 >> Hi all and a big help request.
 >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
 >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
 >> JAWS never starts talking.
 >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
 >> I've waited for over an hour.
 >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
 >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
 >>
 >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
 >>
 >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
 >>
 >>
 >> Thanks so much.
 >>
 >> Rich
 >>
 >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 >>
 >
 >
 > For answers to frequently asked questions about th

Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-05 Thread tim
To do this just shut the computer off. Now hold down the f8 key and 
turn computer back on. you will hear some beeps, that is good and 
when you can stop. Now hit the 2 key above letters for safe mode. If 
you got your wife there I think there is a mode for restoring there. 
If so chose that one and do your restore from there.


At 09:03 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote:

Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

Rich
- Original Message - From: "Flor Lynch" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to 
restore your computer to a point in time when it was working correctly.

- Original Message - From: "Rich Hamel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Flor Lynch
Given that your computer is frozen, therefore no screen reader works, 
and you will need sighted assistance: turn off, then turn on your 
computer and press (and hold) the F8 key until Safe Mode is highlighted 
or in the list of items. Arrow to it and press enter. There is then a 
list of available options from which you can choose. There is also Safe 
Mode help. Fortunately, I haven't had to go down that road myself for a 
long time.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

Rich
- Original Message - 

From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to 
restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Steve
Uh, Rich.  Another thought, maybe you better make sure the keyboard is 
actually frozen, as that is what your first message implied.  If its not, 
then there are other possibilities, including some pretty simple ones


.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



That's right.
I did try the "windows" key with "R" but did not notice any change.
I did not confirm this with my wife.

I'll try the F8 key and see if this works.

Thanks, everyone,  for all of the suggestions.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from 
within Windows at this point.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Rich,

Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
following so, try at your own risk!

From: 2.g.i
Hi every one

Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.

To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
mode, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
the system configuration window will open
either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
or use control tab & find the boot tab
its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
the internet you have no securety running.
now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to 
say

ok.
You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe 
mode.

If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.

Hope this helps

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Hamel

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

 Rich
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Flor Lynch" 

 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
 > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.

 >
 > - Original Message - 
 > From: "Rich Hamel" 

 > To: 
 > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
 > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >
 >
 >> Hi all and a big help request.
 >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
 >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
 >> JAWS never starts talking.
 >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
 >> I've waited for over an hour.
 >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
 >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
 >>
 >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
 >>
 >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
 >>
 >>
 >> Thanks so much.
 >>
 >> Rich
 >>
 >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 >>
 >
 >
 > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Rich Hamel

That's right.
I did try the "windows" key with "R" but did not notice any change.
I did not confirm this with my wife.

I'll try the F8 key and see if this works.

Thanks, everyone,  for all of the suggestions.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from 
within Windows at this point.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Rich,

Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
following so, try at your own risk!

From: 2.g.i
Hi every one

Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.

To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
mode, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
the system configuration window will open
either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
or use control tab & find the boot tab
its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
the internet you have no securety running.
now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to 
say

ok.
You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe mode.
If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.

Hope this helps

 - Original Message ----- 
 From: Rich Hamel

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

 Rich
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Flor Lynch" 

 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
 > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working 
correctly.

 >
 > ----- Original Message - 
 > From: "Rich Hamel" 

 > To: 
 > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
 > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >
 >
 >> Hi all and a big help request.
 >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
 >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
 >> JAWS never starts talking.
 >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
 >> I've waited for over an hour.
 >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
 >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
 >>
 >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
 >>
 >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
 >>
 >>
 >> Thanks so much.
 >>
 >> Rich
 >>
 >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 >>
 >
 >
 > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Steve
Um, you forgot, his keyboard doesn't work.  He can't do anything from within 
Windows at this point.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi Rich,

Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the
following so, try at your own risk!

From: 2.g.i
Hi every one

Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.

To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
mode, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
the system configuration window will open
either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
or use control tab & find the boot tab
its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
the internet you have no securety running.
now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to say
ok.
You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe mode.
If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.

Hope this helps

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Hamel

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

 Rich
 - Original Message ----- 
 From: "Flor Lynch" 

 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


 > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
 > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working correctly.
 >
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: "Rich Hamel" 

 > To: 
 > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
 > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
 >
 >
 >> Hi all and a big help request.
 >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
 >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
 >> JAWS never starts talking.
 >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
 >> I've waited for over an hour.
 >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
 >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
 >>
 >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
 >>
 >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
 >>
 >>
 >> Thanks so much.
 >>
 >> Rich
 >>
 >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 >>
 >
 >
 > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Steve

Rich,


First, try starting your computer and hitting the f8 key until you get a 
dialog menu.  Try booting into safe mode.


Check out the following microsoft article.  It has several methods you can 
try, but many of them are advanced.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314503
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Mike & Barbara
Hi Rich,

Below is a note I saved.  I haven't tried the instructions from the 
following so, try at your own risk!

From: 2.g.i
Hi every one

Please read all of this before carrying out the  steps.

To save the guessing of when to hit f8 & so on to boot into safe
mode, you can do the following.
press windows r to open the run box
in the run box type, msconfig & press enter
the system configuration window will open
either shift tab once to get up into the tabs & use the right arrow,
or use control tab & find the boot tab
its called the Boot tab in windows 7, boot.ini tab in xp
once on the boot tab, start tabbing through the options & you will find
boot option Safe boot, you need to check this
then tab once more & you will find radio buttons
use the arrow keys to choose either minimal or network
again dont forget, if you choose network, while you are connected to
the internet you have no securety running.
now just tab to the ok button & hit the space bar.
on xp you will get a window saying need to restart, on windows 7 you
will not recieve this & need to restart the system yourself.
On xp when the system boots into safe mode you will here the windows
log on sound & then you will hear a ding sound,
the ding is a window stating you are in safe mode, just press enter to say 
ok.
You will not get this ding sound in windows 7.
dont forget things in safe mode are a lot slower, so wait a while for
the desktop & so on to load before you try to start your screen reader.
In xp when you get your screen reader running you may find a system
configuration window saying, is in selective mode & so on, I normally
tab to never show this again & check it, then tab to ok
Once you are finished doing what you want to in safe mode, you need
to go back into msconfig into the boot tab & uncheck boot into safe mode.
If you dont do this, you will just keep starting up in safe mode.

Hope this helps

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rich Hamel
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

  Rich
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Flor Lynch" 
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


  > With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to
  > restore your computer to a point in time when it was working correctly.
  >
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "Rich Hamel" 
  > To: 
  > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
  > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.
  >
  >
  >> Hi all and a big help request.
  >> My main computer seems to have frozen.
  >> When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
  >> JAWS never starts talking.
  >> My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
  >> I've waited for over an hour.
  >> I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
  >> The keys and even the mouse do not work.
  >>
  >> I do have an up to date McAfee.
  >>
  >> Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?
  >>
  >>
  >> Thanks so much.
  >>
  >> Rich
  >>
  >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
  >>
  >
  >
  > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Rich Hamel

Okay, how does one go in to "safe mode"?

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Flor Lynch" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.


With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to 
restore your computer to a point in time when it was working correctly.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.

2012-02-04 Thread Flor Lynch
With your wife's help, go into Safe Mode, and use system restore to 
restore your computer to a point in time when it was working correctly.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major issue! Computer freeze.



Hi all and a big help request.
My main computer seems to have frozen.
When I physically turn it on, I hear the Microsoft tune.
JAWS never starts talking.
My sighted wife says the hour glass on the desk top is not full.
I've waited for over an hour.
I've restarted and rebooted a couple of time and nothing happens.
The keys and even the mouse do not work.

I do have an up to date McAfee.

Any thoughts on what it is and what to do?


Thanks so much.

Rich

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