Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
I resisted, but you are wrong, Scorpio. If you don't use any of the Google features, and just go to Google.com, you are talking apples when Flor is talking oranges. I, like Flor, am a Googlegroups owner. They specifically don't support IE8 any longer, they encourage you to use their Chrome browser or at a minimum a Crhome Plug-in tool for IE. That plug-in has caused some issues with other people that you can see by doing a search. To be able to continue managing my groups, I have to use Firefox instead. Even that is not perfect, but that is a Google interface design issue, at least with Firefox the group management function can be accomplished if not smoothly, unlike in IE where it can't be done. (NOTE: I haven't tried IE10 to see if Google GRoups is happier with that version yet.) - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Don't know. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings I know that the "S" in the HTTP prefix stands for a secure web page. But can anyone explain why the Google.com home page that loads with IE 8 has the "S" in the prefix while the one that loads with Firefox 17 does not? Gerald - Original Message - From: "RJ" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Stand for secure - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Here is something interesting I just discovered. I checked the address of my IE 8 Google home page and the prefix is HTTPS, not the usual HTTP, as it used to be. This leads me to believe that Google has indeed made changes to it Search Settings page for IE 8 that have rendered it inaccessible. I have had cookies enabled all along, so my inability to change my preferences on the Search Settings page is probably not an issue with cookies. And comparing the Search Settings page that comes up with IE 8 versus the one that comes up with Firefox 17, I noticed that the IE 8 version has a heading labled "Google Instant Predictions", whereas the Firefox version has no such heading. Plus theGoogle home page that is loaded with IE 8 is completely different than the one that is loaded with Firefox. So contrary to what others have been experiencing, for me Google appears to be browser specific, loading different versions of its home page depending on which browser accesses it. I suspect that Google has deliberately disabled the Search Settings page that loads with IE 8 to encourage, or rather, force users to switch to Chrome or Firefox or IE 9 or 10, which of course, requires upgrading to Windows 7 or 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
I know that the "S" in the HTTP prefix stands for a secure web page. But can anyone explain why the Google.com home page that loads with IE 8 has the "S" in the prefix while the one that loads with Firefox 17 does not? Gerald - Original Message - From: "RJ" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Stand for secure - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Here is something interesting I just discovered. I checked the address of my IE 8 Google home page and the prefix is HTTPS, not the usual HTTP, as it used to be. This leads me to believe that Google has indeed made changes to it Search Settings page for IE 8 that have rendered it inaccessible. I have had cookies enabled all along, so my inability to change my preferences on the Search Settings page is probably not an issue with cookies. And comparing the Search Settings page that comes up with IE 8 versus the one that comes up with Firefox 17, I noticed that the IE 8 version has a heading labled "Google Instant Predictions", whereas the Firefox version has no such heading. Plus theGoogle home page that is loaded with IE 8 is completely different than the one that is loaded with Firefox. So contrary to what others have been experiencing, for me Google appears to be browser specific, loading different versions of its home page depending on which browser accesses it. I suspect that Google has deliberately disabled the Search Settings page that loads with IE 8 to encourage, or rather, force users to switch to Chrome or Firefox or IE 9 or 10, which of course, requires upgrading to Windows 7 or 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of cou
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Stand for secure - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Here is something interesting I just discovered. I checked the address of my IE 8 Google home page and the prefix is HTTPS, not the usual HTTP, as it used to be. This leads me to believe that Google has indeed made changes to it Search Settings page for IE 8 that have rendered it inaccessible. I have had cookies enabled all along, so my inability to change my preferences on the Search Settings page is probably not an issue with cookies. And comparing the Search Settings page that comes up with IE 8 versus the one that comes up with Firefox 17, I noticed that the IE 8 version has a heading labled "Google Instant Predictions", whereas the Firefox version has no such heading. Plus theGoogle home page that is loaded with IE 8 is completely different than the one that is loaded with Firefox. So contrary to what others have been experiencing, for me Google appears to be browser specific, loading different versions of its home page depending on which browser accesses it. I suspect that Google has deliberately disabled the Search Settings page that loads with IE 8 to encourage, or rather, force users to switch to Chrome or Firefox or IE 9 or 10, which of course, requires upgrading to Windows 7 or 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Here is something interesting I just discovered. I checked the address of my IE 8 Google home page and the prefix is HTTPS, not the usual HTTP, as it used to be. This leads me to believe that Google has indeed made changes to it Search Settings page for IE 8 that have rendered it inaccessible. I have had cookies enabled all along, so my inability to change my preferences on the Search Settings page is probably not an issue with cookies. And comparing the Search Settings page that comes up with IE 8 versus the one that comes up with Firefox 17, I noticed that the IE 8 version has a heading labled "Google Instant Predictions", whereas the Firefox version has no such heading. Plus theGoogle home page that is loaded with IE 8 is completely different than the one that is loaded with Firefox. So contrary to what others have been experiencing, for me Google appears to be browser specific, loading different versions of its home page depending on which browser accesses it. I suspect that Google has deliberately disabled the Search Settings page that loads with IE 8 to encourage, or rather, force users to switch to Chrome or Firefox or IE 9 or 10, which of course, requires upgrading to Windows 7 or 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Scorpio, As others have indicated, there is the matter of whether you have cookies turned on or not, and that does have a bearing on your results from Google. if you have a GMail account and sign into GMail on the Web, as many blind people do, or if you are a googlegroup owner, as some blind folk are, that also does alter your Google experience. Indeed, you begin to see why Google 'recommend' Chrome. Google Chrome works quite well with JAWS14, and i have used both. Firefox however - as i have previously indicated - offers better keyboard support overall than Chrome, and I have compared both. So that blind users of Chrome might find, upon more familiarlity with Firefox (which is still quite like Internet Explorer) that, if they used Firefox instead, their experience with FF may be more rewarding than what they get with Chrome. Lower versions of JAWS do not support Chrome. - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Hi Flor, I won't play semantics with you. The fact is, you said that Google says you should install Chrome for the best results. Well, that's been the case with every software developer in the known world. Mozilla says you should install their browser because it's open source and not as restrictive as other browsers. Apple says you should install Safari for a wonderful browsing experience. Before these, you had the turf war between Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Regardless of what internet turf war your referring to, the fact is the same, the webpage does not change. I've never experienced that which you describe with Google telling me I should install Chrome, nor have they ever suggested that it would be a far better experience. I have never used any other Google page but the one I use now, http://www.google.com/ and I have always signed in to have my preferences loaded. In any case, I still maintain that this is a computer specific problem, and has nothing to do with Google, or the Internet. I have a multitude of friends running Windows XP, Internet Explorer 8, and lower versions of Jaws, and they manage just fine, including myself, as I believe I mentioned in my previous message that I was using Jaws on all three systems running all three platforms. I have also pasted the message you wrote where I inferred my original statement, lest there be any confusion. I should also mention that there are many blind people who use Chrome instead of Internet Explorer or any other browser just fine and without any problem. Scorpio ***Original Message*** From: "Flor Lynch" To: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Date: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:38 AM Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings perhaps duck duck go will work?
or you can just start using duckduckgo.com hit h after you do a serch and you will find resaults. however I haven't had this problem on google yet. good luck. -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
In IE8 tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 01:54 PM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Okay, how do I turn on or enable cookies in IE 8? Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Well with cookies turned on I see what your not seeing and with them off I see what your seeing. So there you go. At 10:02 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies. It appears that the format and layout of the Search Settings page has been changed, at least for IE 8. Interestingly, the search settings still seem to be accessible with Firefox, but I don't like using it except to solve image captchas with Webvisum. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings See if your cooky settings have ben changed. Some times when you do a windows update some settings get set back to default. You will find them IE in tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 08:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
No, but it does react to how your cookies are set. It won't save anything if not allowed to store the info in a cookie. At 11:02 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: I am using IE8 and jaws 14 latest build on XP SP3 I don't know what going on then. I have noticed in the past that I will look at google at home and then when I get to work I open it and it will be different from the one I saw at home. Does it serve up different pages depending on what server you hit? Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 10:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Okay, which version of IE are you using? With IE 8, there are no radio buttons , or combo boxes under any of the headings to select the option you want. And there is no button to save your preferences. Everything worked fine on Monday, so at least for IE 8, the format and layout of the Search Settings page seems to have been changed since then. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > Hi, It does act a little weird. > I find that I have to use the enter key on the items. For number of > results I hit enter on the link and then I can arrow through the numbers. > The same with turn off instant results, I hit enter and it goes into forms > mode and hit enter again to activate the check box. > To save the settings I found that you need to use the jaws cursor find the > save button and do a left mouse click. Not pretty but doable > Let us know if this helps. > Regards > Tom Bisset > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Gerald Levy > Sent: September 6, 2013 9:26 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > > > When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on > which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five > headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for > theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to > 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings > Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to > select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the > JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer > works. Obviously, something is different now. > > Gerald > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Isaac Hebert" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > > >> To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences >> to change you're search settings. >> >> On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: >>> >>> Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning >>> that >>> Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am >>> unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There >>> seems >>> to >>> be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is >>> there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the >>> default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search >>> preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), >>> but >>> nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search >>> settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my >>> browser >>> was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of >>> course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. >>> Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they >>> conspiring >>> with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change >>> the >>> number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, >>> short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its >>> Webvisum >>> function? Thanks. >>> >>> Gerald >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >> >> >> -- >> Isaac Hebert >> iMessage 2547608981 >> Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email >> isaa
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
It isn't a question of whether something is simply true or not here. I didn't say (nor did anyone else here) that google was 'forcing' users to install Chrome. they are, however, making it plain when you use IE8 that it is no longer supported, suggesting that you use a modern browser, and recommending the Google browser Chrome. And, i'm talking about the Google pages and Google interface in general, not just the search results numbers, and also if one is a Google group owner and GMail user as I am. - Original Message - From: "Scorpio" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings This is simply not true. I have never installed, nor used Chrome, or any other browser save for Internet Explorer for my Google searches. As I said, short of using Firefox for solving CAPTCHA's and other verification codes, all my Google searches are performed on Internet Explorer. Google has never forced me to install Chrome, or any toolbar or anything like that. I do admit that I have set my search provider to Google when Internet Explorer asked me which search provider I wanted to choose from, so this may be one of the possible reasons for my success with Google searches. Having said that though, when ever I get onto another computer that does not have my settings installed, I simply sign into Google, and my settings are remembered for my account, and I get the same settings as on my home computer. I don't know if this is specific to account settings, but, as i said, once I sign in, regardless of who's computer I'm on, when I sign in to Google, my settings get reverted to my home settings of 100 results per page, and links opening up in a new window or tab. Maybe you can try creating an account with Google, then setting your preferences. Just a thought. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
I just checked my Privacy settings, and I have cookies enabled, so apparently, this isn't the cause of the problem with the Search Settings page. Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings In IE8 tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 01:54 PM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Okay, how do I turn on or enable cookies in IE 8? Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Well with cookies turned on I see what your not seeing and with them off I see what your seeing. So there you go. At 10:02 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies. It appears that the format and layout of the Search Settings page has been changed, at least for IE 8. Interestingly, the search settings still seem to be accessible with Firefox, but I don't like using it except to solve image captchas with Webvisum. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings See if your cooky settings have ben changed. Some times when you do a windows update some settings get set back to default. You will find them IE in tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 08:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Absolutely not true, at least for me. The Search Setttings page that comes up for IE 8 is totally different than the one I am getting with Firefox 17. The Firefox version has radio buttons and combo boxes under the headings, whereas the IE 8 version has none. I have cookies enabled, so I don't understand what's going on. Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Don't matter witch version of IE the web page is the same for all browsers. At 11:15 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Which version of IE ar you using? If you are using IE 9 or 10, that might account for the fact that you and I are getting different results because I'm using IE 8. Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies, because there appears to be no radio buttons orcombo boxes under any of the headings on the Search Settings page to select the options you want, nor any button to save your preferences. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings I just tried this myself and it works just fine. You should locate and dump any google cookies and temp files and try again. On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Gerald Levy wrote: This work around doesn't seem to work for me. When I click on the link in your message and enter a search phrase into the Search edit field, I still get only 10 results per page, not 20 results, and the results do not open in a new page. So my next question is this: Is there another search engine which uses the same search algorithm as Google that can be navigated with header navigation whose search settings are accessible? I'm not thrilled with Bing or Yahoo, and Duckduckgo doesn't have any means of changing settings or navigating by header. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings One way around the google preference issue is to set your preferences via the URL. I have the following URL saved as a favorite: http://www.google.com/?newwindow=1&complete=0&num=20 That URL sets my preferences for Instant search to off, 20 results per page, and open each result in a new window. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Which version of IE ar you using? If you are using IE 9 or 10, that might account for the fact that you and I are getting different results because I'm using IE 8. Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies, because there appears to be no radio buttons orcombo boxes under any of the headings on the Search Settings page to select the options you want, nor any button to save your preferences. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings I just tried this myself and it works just fine. You should locate and dump any google cookies and temp files and try again. On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Gerald Levy wrote: This work around doesn't seem to work for me. When I click on the link in your message and enter a search phrase into the Search edit field, I still get only 10 results per page, not 20 results, and the results do not open in a new page. So my next question is this: Is there another search engine which uses the same search algorithm as Google that can be navigated with header navigation whose search settings are accessible? I'm not thrilled with Bing or Yahoo, and Duckduckgo doesn't have any means of changing settings or navigating by header. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings One way around the google preference issue is to set your preferences via the URL. I have the following URL saved as a favorite: http://www.google.com/?newwindow=1&complete=0&num=20 That URL sets my preferences for Instant search to off, 20 results per page, and open each result in a new window. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Well with cookies turned on I see what your not seeing and with them off I see what your seeing. So there you go. At 10:02 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies. It appears that the format and layout of the Search Settings page has been changed, at least for IE 8. Interestingly, the search settings still seem to be accessible with Firefox, but I don't like using it except to solve image captchas with Webvisum. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings See if your cooky settings have ben changed. Some times when you do a windows update some settings get set back to default. You will find them IE in tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 08:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Now if your going to google.com you will get same page. However if you have a Dell computer. Then your page may differ because after the / it will send you to a different page. Just like it does with google.com/accessible. Other name brand computers might have this deal with google like Dell not sure. Also it depends on if you except cookies or not. You will get a different page. At 11:29 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: It seems that not only does Google serve up different Search Settings pages depending on which server you hit, it also appears to serve up different Search Settings pages depending on which browser you use. Using Firefox 17, I get a completely different Search Settings page than the one I am now getting with IE 8. The Firefox Search Settings page is completely accessible, unlike the IE 8 page. I suspect that Google no longer supports IE 8 and is pushing users to upgrade to IE 9 or 10. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings I am using IE8 and jaws 14 latest build on XP SP3 I don't know what going on then. I have noticed in the past that I will look at google at home and then when I get to work I open it and it will be different from the one I saw at home. Does it serve up different pages depending on what server you hit? Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 10:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Okay, which version of IE are you using? With IE 8, there are no radio buttons , or combo boxes under any of the headings to select the option you want. And there is no button to save your preferences. Everything worked fine on Monday, so at least for IE 8, the format and layout of the Search Settings page seems to have been changed since then. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi, It does act a little weird. I find that I have to use the enter key on the items. For number of results I hit enter on the link and then I can arrow through the numbers. The same with turn off instant results, I hit enter and it goes into forms mode and hit enter again to activate the check box. To save the settings I found that you need to use the jaws cursor find the save button and do a left mouse click. Not pretty but doable Let us know if this helps. Regards Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Fire
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Don't matter witch version of IE the web page is the same for all browsers. At 11:15 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Which version of IE ar you using? If you are using IE 9 or 10, that might account for the fact that you and I are getting different results because I'm using IE 8. Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies, because there appears to be no radio buttons orcombo boxes under any of the headings on the Search Settings page to select the options you want, nor any button to save your preferences. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings I just tried this myself and it works just fine. You should locate and dump any google cookies and temp files and try again. On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Gerald Levy wrote: This work around doesn't seem to work for me. When I click on the link in your message and enter a search phrase into the Search edit field, I still get only 10 results per page, not 20 results, and the results do not open in a new page. So my next question is this: Is there another search engine which uses the same search algorithm as Google that can be navigated with header navigation whose search settings are accessible? I'm not thrilled with Bing or Yahoo, and Duckduckgo doesn't have any means of changing settings or navigating by header. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings One way around the google preference issue is to set your preferences via the URL. I have the following URL saved as a favorite: http://www.google.com/?newwindow=1&complete=0&num=20 That URL sets my preferences for Instant search to off, 20 results per page, and open each result in a new window. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
I am using IE8 and jaws 14 latest build on XP SP3 I don't know what going on then. I have noticed in the past that I will look at google at home and then when I get to work I open it and it will be different from the one I saw at home. Does it serve up different pages depending on what server you hit? Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 10:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Okay, which version of IE are you using? With IE 8, there are no radio buttons , or combo boxes under any of the headings to select the option you want. And there is no button to save your preferences. Everything worked fine on Monday, so at least for IE 8, the format and layout of the Search Settings page seems to have been changed since then. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > Hi, It does act a little weird. > I find that I have to use the enter key on the items. For number of > results I hit enter on the link and then I can arrow through the numbers. > The same with turn off instant results, I hit enter and it goes into forms > mode and hit enter again to activate the check box. > To save the settings I found that you need to use the jaws cursor find the > save button and do a left mouse click. Not pretty but doable > Let us know if this helps. > Regards > Tom Bisset > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Gerald Levy > Sent: September 6, 2013 9:26 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > > > When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on > which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five > headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for > theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to > 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings > Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to > select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the > JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer > works. Obviously, something is different now. > > Gerald > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Isaac Hebert" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > > >> To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences >> to change you're search settings. >> >> On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: >>> >>> Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning >>> that >>> Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am >>> unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There >>> seems >>> to >>> be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is >>> there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the >>> default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search >>> preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), >>> but >>> nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search >>> settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my >>> browser >>> was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of >>> course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. >>> Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they >>> conspiring >>> with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change >>> the >>> number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, >>> short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its >>> Webvisum >>> function? Thanks. >>> >>> Gerald >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >> >> >> -- >> Isaac Hebert >> iMessage 2547608981 >> Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email >> isaac.heb...@gmail.com >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
But Chrome is not very JAWS accessible, and I'm sick and tired of Mozilla's endless cycle of new Firefox releases which don't work well with JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Flor Lynch" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Okay, how do I turn on or enable cookies in IE 8? Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Well with cookies turned on I see what your not seeing and with them off I see what your seeing. So there you go. At 10:02 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies. It appears that the format and layout of the Search Settings page has been changed, at least for IE 8. Interestingly, the search settings still seem to be accessible with Firefox, but I don't like using it except to solve image captchas with Webvisum. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings See if your cooky settings have ben changed. Some times when you do a windows update some settings get set back to default. You will find them IE in tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 08:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Gerald, I am running IE 8 on a Windows XP box. I have the same results on a Windows 7 box running IE9. Google stores your preferences in a cookie, that is why I suggested dropping your cookies. Your cookies has nothing to do with the way the preferences page is behaving though. I only meant that a cookie might be overriding placing the preferences in the URL, not how the preferences page is behaving. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
This is simply not true. I have never installed, nor used Chrome, or any other browser save for Internet Explorer for my Google searches. As I said, short of using Firefox for solving CAPTCHA's and other verification codes, all my Google searches are performed on Internet Explorer. Google has never forced me to install Chrome, or any toolbar or anything like that. I do admit that I have set my search provider to Google when Internet Explorer asked me which search provider I wanted to choose from, so this may be one of the possible reasons for my success with Google searches. Having said that though, when ever I get onto another computer that does not have my settings installed, I simply sign into Google, and my settings are remembered for my account, and I get the same settings as on my home computer. I don't know if this is specific to account settings, but, as i said, once I sign in, regardless of who's computer I'm on, when I sign in to Google, my settings get reverted to my home settings of 100 results per page, and links opening up in a new window or tab. Maybe you can try creating an account with Google, then setting your preferences. Just a thought. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Hi Gerald, I don't think Google is changing anything to match any browsers. The fact is, the page stays the same, and I think it's your settings that have changed. The first thing I would do is restore my default settings for Internet Explorer and Jaws. You can do this by going into the Internet Options, then doing a control+tab to the advance page, and tabbing to the restore default settings button, and pressing the spacebar. You'll receive some warning about things being reverted back and if you're sure you want to do this, so just press the spacebar on the yes or ok button. Once you've done that, attempt to go to Google again, and see if the settings have changed. If they have, then you know something has screwed with your settings, and you have to find out which program did this. If you aren't able to deduce which program is the culprit, I would run some scans to make sure your computer is completely clean of Malware, Viruses and spyware, then set Internet Explorer and Jaws according to your settings, making sure to do a Google search every so often to see if one of the changes you made changes the Google display in any way. As for myself, I am using Jaws, version 14, Internet Explorer 8, 9 and 10, on three different computers, an XP computer, a Vista computer, and a Windows 7 computer, respectively, and I can honestly report that I have the same experience on all three computers when I do a Google search. As i said in my previous message, this may be due to the fact that I have signed into my account, and no, this is not a Gmail account, as I use my regular e-mail account to sign into Google, or it may be due to the fact that I have selected Google as my default search provider, but one thing's for sure, something has been knocked out of whack on your computer, and you just have to pinpoint what that something is. Good luck. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings perhaps duck duck go will work?
The problem with DuckDuckGo is that you are limited to 10 results per page and there are no headers to make navigation easier. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Jose " To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings perhaps duck duck go will work? or you can just start using duckduckgo.com hit h after you do a serch and you will find resaults. however I haven't had this problem on google yet. good luck. -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
You have about three choices, two of which involve costs: 1. Upg rade your OS; 2. Upgrade your JAWS; 3. Install and use the FREE NVDA screen-reader. If NVDA, then you could use Firefox on google's pages. A disk clean up might assist, if none of the above are acceptable. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings But Chrome is not very JAWS accessible, and I'm sick and tired of Mozilla's endless cycle of new Firefox releases which don't work well with JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Flor Lynch" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
It seems that not only does Google serve up different Search Settings pages depending on which server you hit, it also appears to serve up different Search Settings pages depending on which browser you use. Using Firefox 17, I get a completely different Search Settings page than the one I am now getting with IE 8. The Firefox Search Settings page is completely accessible, unlike the IE 8 page. I suspect that Google no longer supports IE 8 and is pushing users to upgrade to IE 9 or 10. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings I am using IE8 and jaws 14 latest build on XP SP3 I don't know what going on then. I have noticed in the past that I will look at google at home and then when I get to work I open it and it will be different from the one I saw at home. Does it serve up different pages depending on what server you hit? Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 10:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Okay, which version of IE are you using? With IE 8, there are no radio buttons , or combo boxes under any of the headings to select the option you want. And there is no button to save your preferences. Everything worked fine on Monday, so at least for IE 8, the format and layout of the Search Settings page seems to have been changed since then. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi, It does act a little weird. I find that I have to use the enter key on the items. For number of results I hit enter on the link and then I can arrow through the numbers. The same with turn off instant results, I hit enter and it goes into forms mode and hit enter again to activate the check box. To save the settings I found that you need to use the jaws cursor find the save button and do a left mouse click. Not pretty but doable Let us know if this helps. Regards Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to freq
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Okay, which version of IE are you using? With IE 8, there are no radio buttons , or combo boxes under any of the headings to select the option you want. And there is no button to save your preferences. Everything worked fine on Monday, so at least for IE 8, the format and layout of the Search Settings page seems to have been changed since then. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Bissett, Tom" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi, It does act a little weird. I find that I have to use the enter key on the items. For number of results I hit enter on the link and then I can arrow through the numbers. The same with turn off instant results, I hit enter and it goes into forms mode and hit enter again to activate the check box. To save the settings I found that you need to use the jaws cursor find the save button and do a left mouse click. Not pretty but doable Let us know if this helps. Regards Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Hi, It does act a little weird. I find that I have to use the enter key on the items. For number of results I hit enter on the link and then I can arrow through the numbers. The same with turn off instant results, I hit enter and it goes into forms mode and hit enter again to activate the check box. To save the settings I found that you need to use the jaws cursor find the save button and do a left mouse click. Not pretty but doable Let us know if this helps. Regards Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: September 6, 2013 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings > To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences > to change you're search settings. > > On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: >> >> Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning >> that >> Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am >> unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems >> to >> be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is >> there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the >> default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search >> preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), >> but >> nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search >> settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser >> was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of >> course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. >> Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they >> conspiring >> with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change >> the >> number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, >> short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its >> Webvisum >> function? Thanks. >> >> Gerald >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > -- > Isaac Hebert > iMessage 2547608981 > Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email > isaac.heb...@gmail.com > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Google want you to download & install their own browser, Chrome. Firefox is like it and, for several of our purposes, replicates Chrome nearly and more accessibly, as well as having better keyboard support for functionalities. - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
I just tried this myself and it works just fine. You should locate and dump any google cookies and temp files and try again. On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Gerald Levy wrote: This work around doesn't seem to work for me. When I click on the link in your message and enter a search phrase into the Search edit field, I still get only 10 results per page, not 20 results, and the results do not open in a new page. So my next question is this: Is there another search engine which uses the same search algorithm as Google that can be navigated with header navigation whose search settings are accessible? I'm not thrilled with Bing or Yahoo, and Duckduckgo doesn't have any means of changing settings or navigating by header. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings One way around the google preference issue is to set your preferences via the URL. I have the following URL saved as a favorite: http://www.google.com/?newwindow=1&complete=0&num=20 That URL sets my preferences for Instant search to off, 20 results per page, and open each result in a new window. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
This work around doesn't seem to work for me. When I click on the link in your message and enter a search phrase into the Search edit field, I still get only 10 results per page, not 20 results, and the results do not open in a new page. So my next question is this: Is there another search engine which uses the same search algorithm as Google that can be navigated with header navigation whose search settings are accessible? I'm not thrilled with Bing or Yahoo, and Duckduckgo doesn't have any means of changing settings or navigating by header. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dan Rossi" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings One way around the google preference issue is to set your preferences via the URL. I have the following URL saved as a favorite: http://www.google.com/?newwindow=1&complete=0&num=20 That URL sets my preferences for Instant search to off, 20 results per page, and open each result in a new window. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
Again, I don't think this has anything to do with cookies. It appears that the format and layout of the Search Settings page has been changed, at least for IE 8. Interestingly, the search settings still seem to be accessible with Firefox, but I don't like using it except to solve image captchas with Webvisum. Gerald Gerald - Original Message - From: "tim" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings See if your cooky settings have ben changed. Some times when you do a windows update some settings get set back to default. You will find them IE in tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 08:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
One way around the google preference issue is to set your preferences via the URL. I have the following URL saved as a favorite: http://www.google.com/?newwindow=1&complete=0&num=20 That URL sets my preferences for Instant search to off, 20 results per page, and open each result in a new window. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Senior Oracle Database Administrator Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
See if your cooky settings have ben changed. Some times when you do a windows update some settings get set back to default. You will find them IE in tools menu, Internet options, privacy tab menu, advanced... At 08:32 AM 9/6/2013, you wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
When I try this address, I get the same Google Search Settings page on which I am unable to change or modify anything. There are five headings,but there seems to be nothing under each heading except for theResults Per Page Heading under which are a list of values from 10 to 50, but no apparent way to select the one you want. Under the headings Google Instant Predictions and Where Results Open, there is nothing to select. Previously, I could just turn the virtual PC cursor off with the JAWS command Insdert-Z to change the search settings, but this no longer works. Obviously, something is different now. Gerald - Original Message - From: "Isaac Hebert" To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum function? Thanks. Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to Change Google Search Settings
To change you're search preferences you have to google.com/preferences to change you're search settings. On 9/6/13, Gerald Levy wrote: > > Hi listers. Using IE 8 with XP and JAWS 9, I discovered this morning that > Google.com has apparently changed its home page yet again, and now I am > unable to change my preferences on the search settings page. There seems to > be no way to turn Google Instant on or off like there used to be, nor is > there any apparent way to change the number of results per page from the > default value of 10. And I could not find any button to save the search > preferences. I tried with the virtual PC cursor on and off (Insert Z), but > nothing seems to work. I was last able to successfully change my search > settings a few days ago. I think I heard a brief message that my browser > was outdated and no longer supported or something like that, which , of > course is nonsense, because IE 8 is the latest bersion supported by XP. > Does anyone have any idea what's going on with Google? Are they conspiring > with MS to force us to upgrade to Windows 8? Is there any way to change the > number of results per page and insure that Google Instant is turned off, > short of switching to Firefox, which I despise and use only for its Webvisum > function? Thanks. > > Gerald > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Isaac Hebert iMessage 2547608981 Skype gold_wildcat facebook and email isaac.heb...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
