Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Tandem

[Brian Lee]

Hello Scorpio,

You can use JAWS tandem center to help your friend.  Under the JAWS Utilities 
menu find the JAWS Tandem menu item and arrow twice to the right.  Arrow up and 
you will find the menu item for getting a meeting ID.  Press enter key and then 
press spacebar on the Get button.  

Your friend can use the keystroke of Insert Alt T to get the box where the ID 
you give can be entered.  The letters are not case sensitive.  

You can temporarily suspend a meeting by using insert with Alt and tab key.  
You disconnect from the meeting by using the Insert Alt T command.  Only the 
controller can suspend temporarily but either party can disconnect.  

You can copy and paste text but not files.  

Insert with CTRL Shift V can be used by the controller in order to use video if 
desired.

Both systems will be changed to using Eloquence as the synthesizer.  I think 
that is still true.  

If your friend has JAWS in a different major language then both systems will 
need to use that major language.  There should be no problem between systems 
with different dialects of English.  

If you get a meeting ID you need to give it to the target user within 60 
minutes or you will need to get another one.  If sessions are terminated and 
not suspended a new ID is necessary.

I haven't run into any trouble with a user's computer firewall but if there is 
a problem the exception that a firewall will need for the tandem center session 
is for:
Tandem.freedomscientific.com
With the port being 12000.

Take care.



Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Scorpio
Sent: May 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Tandem

Hi All,

I want to use Jaws Tandem to help a friend in another country, but I remember 
Jaws Tandem only being available for instructors and teachers who had to pay 
extra to use Jaws Tandem.

Is this still the case?

Do I have to pay extra for this feature, or can I just connect to my friend’s 
computer without worrying.

I could use NVDA’s Tandem feature, but I have to admit, I would be much more 
comfortable with Jaws.

Any help would be appreciated.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Tandem

[David Ferrin]

It is still free. The fact is I used it twice today alone. I often tandem 
with Somebody in Toronto, so country borders are not an issue.


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 8:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Tandem

Hi All,

I want to use Jaws Tandem to help a friend in another country, but I 
remember Jaws Tandem only being available for instructors and teachers who 
had to pay extra to use Jaws Tandem.


Is this still the case?

Do I have to pay extra for this feature, or can I just connect to my friend’s 
computer without worrying.


I could use NVDA’s Tandem feature, but I have to admit, I would be much more 
comfortable with Jaws.


Any help would be appreciated.

Scorpio
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem into an effected computer

[David Ferrin]

According to my information the answer is no.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "JFW List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem into an effected computer


Is there any chance of getting a virus in your computer if you tandem into
one that has quite a few viruses?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Annette Carr]

At work we are trying to find a way to provide technical assistance to
remote employee's using JAWS.  I am at my wits end with IT Tech Rep's
removing or disabling JAWS as a solution to a user's problem when it is not
the cause of the problem.  There are some issues that can be resolved
remotely by a Tech who understands the use of JAWS on a user's computer.  

Our latest situation is that Skype for Business was pushed to everyone's
computer.  It is set to automatically launch and it wants the user to sign
in.  We have found countless accessibility problems with the application,
that we are taking it out of the start menu for JAWS and Magic users.  At
many of our regional offices, the IT Tech's are removing JAWS or disabling
JAWS instead of doing what we asked with Skype for Business.  I guess from
their perspective if the assistive technology is removed from the equation
the problem is gone.  Of course, then the new problem is that the employee
cannot do their job.

If the tandem session is initiated by the "target" computer, does the
"controller" computer still need to be running the same or newer JAWS
version?  Unfortunately, IT does not own JAWS17 and we've started updating
users to JAWS17.

Thanks,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Although at first I was under the impression that someday tandem would be a
charge service that has never come to pass. In short it is still free and
works quite well. The main requirement is that the controlling computer be
running a licensed version of JAWS and it be the same version or newer than
the client system.

The client system after landing in the utilities menu needs to hit enter
three times and then wait for the controller to give a code.

I have done it so many hundreds of times it is simply automatic, muscle
memory pretty much.

Do you need some sort of help? FYI make certain you trust the person who
takes control of your system because they have the same level of access to
it as you yourself. Naturally you can observe everything they are doing
while they work.
-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Hi All,



I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here on
the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to the
questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.



Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem?  Does
it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
website at URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart



The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions and
information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
have not found answers to my questions.



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[David Ferrin]

The controller always starts the session and must be running the same or 
newer version as I have written below. The client can even be running in 
demo mode.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" <amca...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem


At work we are trying to find a way to provide technical assistance to
remote employee's using JAWS.  I am at my wits end with IT Tech Rep's
removing or disabling JAWS as a solution to a user's problem when it is not
the cause of the problem.  There are some issues that can be resolved
remotely by a Tech who understands the use of JAWS on a user's computer.

Our latest situation is that Skype for Business was pushed to everyone's
computer.  It is set to automatically launch and it wants the user to sign
in.  We have found countless accessibility problems with the application,
that we are taking it out of the start menu for JAWS and Magic users.  At
many of our regional offices, the IT Tech's are removing JAWS or disabling
JAWS instead of doing what we asked with Skype for Business.  I guess from
their perspective if the assistive technology is removed from the equation
the problem is gone.  Of course, then the new problem is that the employee
cannot do their job.

If the tandem session is initiated by the "target" computer, does the
"controller" computer still need to be running the same or newer JAWS
version?  Unfortunately, IT does not own JAWS17 and we've started updating
users to JAWS17.

Thanks,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Although at first I was under the impression that someday tandem would be a
charge service that has never come to pass. In short it is still free and
works quite well. The main requirement is that the controlling computer be
running a licensed version of JAWS and it be the same version or newer than
the client system.

The client system after landing in the utilities menu needs to hit enter
three times and then wait for the controller to give a code.

I have done it so many hundreds of times it is simply automatic, muscle
memory pretty much.

Do you need some sort of help? FYI make certain you trust the person who
takes control of your system because they have the same level of access to
it as you yourself. Naturally you can observe everything they are doing
while they work.
-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Hi All,



I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here on
the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to the
questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.



Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem?  Does
it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
website at URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart



The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions and
information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
have not found answers to my questions.



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Kurt Miller]

Have you  listened to the free FS webinar on using Skype and setting the
accessibility for the use of screen readers?
Kurt
After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

At work we are trying to find a way to provide technical assistance to
remote employee's using JAWS.  I am at my wits end with IT Tech Rep's
removing or disabling JAWS as a solution to a user's problem when it is not
the cause of the problem.  There are some issues that can be resolved
remotely by a Tech who understands the use of JAWS on a user's computer.  

Our latest situation is that Skype for Business was pushed to everyone's
computer.  It is set to automatically launch and it wants the user to sign
in.  We have found countless accessibility problems with the application,
that we are taking it out of the start menu for JAWS and Magic users.  At
many of our regional offices, the IT Tech's are removing JAWS or disabling
JAWS instead of doing what we asked with Skype for Business.  I guess from
their perspective if the assistive technology is removed from the equation
the problem is gone.  Of course, then the new problem is that the employee
cannot do their job.

If the tandem session is initiated by the "target" computer, does the
"controller" computer still need to be running the same or newer JAWS
version?  Unfortunately, IT does not own JAWS17 and we've started updating
users to JAWS17.

Thanks,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Although at first I was under the impression that someday tandem would be a
charge service that has never come to pass. In short it is still free and
works quite well. The main requirement is that the controlling computer be
running a licensed version of JAWS and it be the same version or newer than
the client system.

The client system after landing in the utilities menu needs to hit enter
three times and then wait for the controller to give a code.

I have done it so many hundreds of times it is simply automatic, muscle
memory pretty much.

Do you need some sort of help? FYI make certain you trust the person who
takes control of your system because they have the same level of access to
it as you yourself. Naturally you can observe everything they are doing
while they work.
-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Hi All,



I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here on
the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to the
questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.



Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem?  Does
it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
website at URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart



The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions and
information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
have not found answers to my questions.



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Annette Carr]

Skype is different than Skype for Business.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Have you  listened to the free FS webinar on using Skype and setting the
accessibility for the use of screen readers?
Kurt
After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

At work we are trying to find a way to provide technical assistance to
remote employee's using JAWS.  I am at my wits end with IT Tech Rep's
removing or disabling JAWS as a solution to a user's problem when it is not
the cause of the problem.  There are some issues that can be resolved
remotely by a Tech who understands the use of JAWS on a user's computer.  

Our latest situation is that Skype for Business was pushed to everyone's
computer.  It is set to automatically launch and it wants the user to sign
in.  We have found countless accessibility problems with the application,
that we are taking it out of the start menu for JAWS and Magic users.  At
many of our regional offices, the IT Tech's are removing JAWS or disabling
JAWS instead of doing what we asked with Skype for Business.  I guess from
their perspective if the assistive technology is removed from the equation
the problem is gone.  Of course, then the new problem is that the employee
cannot do their job.

If the tandem session is initiated by the "target" computer, does the
"controller" computer still need to be running the same or newer JAWS
version?  Unfortunately, IT does not own JAWS17 and we've started updating
users to JAWS17.

Thanks,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Although at first I was under the impression that someday tandem would be a
charge service that has never come to pass. In short it is still free and
works quite well. The main requirement is that the controlling computer be
running a licensed version of JAWS and it be the same version or newer than
the client system.

The client system after landing in the utilities menu needs to hit enter
three times and then wait for the controller to give a code.

I have done it so many hundreds of times it is simply automatic, muscle
memory pretty much.

Do you need some sort of help? FYI make certain you trust the person who
takes control of your system because they have the same level of access to
it as you yourself. Naturally you can observe everything they are doing
while they work.
-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Hi All,



I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here on
the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to the
questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.



Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem?  Does
it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
website at URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart



The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions and
information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
have not found answers to my questions.



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Daniel MacDonald]

qhello Anette,
JAWS tandom works in windows 7, 8, 8.1, and 10, as well as vista and xp. with 
reguards to a tandom direct setion vs centewr. ... with tandom direct, you have 
to buy it with your jaws ltcense or with your SAM. I'm not sure if you gotta 
pay for direct sessions, but it;s $200 to get the fearure added to your 
lycense. tandom center is free. not subscription based at all.
thanks for your interesting questions, and happy using tandom,
Daniel


> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here on
> the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to the
> questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem?  Does
> it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
> Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
> website at URL:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart
> 
> 
> 
> The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
> with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions and
> information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
> using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
> have not found answers to my questions.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Annette
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Brent Harding]

One would think that direct should be cheaper than the Tandem center because 
if I understand it right, direct requires you to enter an IP address to make 
a direct connection, where the center goes through servers at FS.


- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel MacDonald" <daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem



qhello Anette,
JAWS tandom works in windows 7, 8, 8.1, and 10, as well as vista and xp. 
with reguards to a tandom direct setion vs centewr. ... with tandom 
direct, you have to buy it with your jaws ltcense or with your SAM. I'm 
not sure if you gotta pay for direct sessions, but it;s $200 to get the 
fearure added to your lycense. tandom center is free. not subscription 
based at all.

thanks for your interesting questions, and happy using tandom,
Daniel



On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Annette Carr <amca...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi All,



I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here 
on
the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to 
the

questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.



Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem? 
Does

it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
website at URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart



The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions 
and

information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
have not found answers to my questions.



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[David Ferrin]

Although at first I was under the impression that some day tandem would be a 
charge service that has never come to pass. In short it is still free and 
works quite well. The main requirement is that the controlling computer be 
running a licensed version of JAWS and it be the same version or newer than 
the client system.


The client system after landing in the utilities menu needs to hit enter 
three times and then wait for the controller to give a code.


I have done it so many hundreds of times it is simply automatic, muscle 
memory pretty much.


Do you need some sort of help? FYI make certain you trust the person who 
takes control of your system because they have the same level of access to 
it as you yourself. Naturally you can observe everything they are doing 
while they work.
-Original Message- 
From: Annette Carr

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Hi All,



I am not writing the below message to start controversial outbursts here on
the list.  So if you have criticisms of whatever the answers might be to the
questions I pose below, please reframe from posting them.



Is there a charge or subscription required for the use of JAWS Tandem?  Does
it make a difference if you are using a Direct Session verses a Center
Connection?  My questions come from what I read on the Freedom Scientific
website at URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/JAWSHq/JAWSTandemQuickStart



The above mentioned URL only provides information about using JAWS Tandem
with JAWS10 and WindowsXP & Vista.  Does anyone know if the instructions and
information on the above URL is applicable in Windows7 and Windows10 when
using JAWS 17 and/or JAWS16?  I've done only a little more searching and
have not found answers to my questions.



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Kurt Miller]

A session lasts 1 hour.
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

David, do you know how long can a session last until the connection is
terminated? I might have to initiate a connection to help someone but don't
know how long the session is going to take.


On 10/30/2015 7:01 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
> Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best 
> feature to come along since free delivery of Chinese food.
>
> Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs 
> to be authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes 
> which normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. 
> I have been on the controlling side so many times it isn't even 
> possible to guess.
>
> It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who 
> takes control of your system because they have the same ability to do 
> things as if they were sitting at your desk themselves.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
>
> Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
> We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help 
> you fix the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, 
> but in this case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to
work.
> And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the 
> tandem feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I 
> believe you have to have Jaws Professional.
>
> Shane
>
> On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:
>> what's the Tandem feature of jaws?
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October 
>> 29, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
>> [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
>> I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the 
>> Jaws Tandem feature.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>> On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
>>> I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
>>> I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
>>> 1 is
>>> JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015 2. Then down below you 
>>> also have Non-Tandem builds JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English 
>>> - October 2015 So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
>>> Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the 
>>> second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
>>> If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still 
>>> need to down load it.
>>> Many Thanks.
>>> Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats 
>>> a cane paws down any day of the week."
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[George Martinez CPA]

I have been on Tandem sessions for hours. 
George


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change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 6:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

David, do you know how long can a session last until the connection is 
terminated? I might have to initiate a connection to help someone but 
don't know how long the session is going to take.


On 10/30/2015 7:01 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
> Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best
> feature to come along since free delivery of Chinese food.
>
> Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs
> to be authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes
> which normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. I
> have been on the controlling side so many times it isn't even possible
> to guess.
>
> It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who takes
> control of your system because they have the same ability to do things
> as if they were sitting at your desk themselves.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
>
> Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
> We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help you
> fix the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, but in
> this case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to work.
> And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the
> tandem feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I
> believe you have to have Jaws Professional.
>
> Shane
>
> On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:
>> what's the Tandem feature of jaws?
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October
>> 29, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
>> [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
>> I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the Jaws
>> Tandem feature.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>> On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
>>> I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
>>> I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
>>> 1 is
>>> JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015
>>> 2. Then down below you also have
>>> Non-Tandem builds
>>> JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English - October 2015
>>> So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
>>> Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the
>>> second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
>>> If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still
>>> need to down load it.
>>> Many Thanks.
>>> Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
>>> "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[David Ferrin]

If both systems are authorized meaning the client is not in demo mode 
assuming no external factors such as a glitch in your connection because 
somebody hit a tree or whatever the session may last as long as it is needed 
until you terminate it yourself.


In short no time limit.
-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

David, do you know how long can a session last until the connection is
terminated? I might have to initiate a connection to help someone but
don't know how long the session is going to take.


On 10/30/2015 7:01 AM, David Ferrin wrote:

Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best
feature to come along since free delivery of Chinese food.

Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs
to be authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes
which normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. I
have been on the controlling side so many times it isn't even possible
to guess.

It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who takes
control of your system because they have the same ability to do things
as if they were sitting at your desk themselves.


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?

Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help you
fix the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, but in
this case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to work.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the
tandem feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I
believe you have to have Jaws Professional.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:

what's the Tandem feature of jaws?

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October
29, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the Jaws
Tandem feature.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
1 is
JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015
2. Then down below you also have
Non-Tandem builds
JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English - October 2015
So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the
second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still
need to down load it.
Many Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
"that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Mario]

David, do you know how long can a session last until the connection is 
terminated? I might have to initiate a connection to help someone but 
don't know how long the session is going to take.



On 10/30/2015 7:01 AM, David Ferrin wrote:

Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best
feature to come along since free delivery of Chinese food.

Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs
to be authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes
which normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. I
have been on the controlling side so many times it isn't even possible
to guess.

It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who takes
control of your system because they have the same ability to do things
as if they were sitting at your desk themselves.


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?

Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help you
fix the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, but in
this case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to work.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the
tandem feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I
believe you have to have Jaws Professional.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:

what's the Tandem feature of jaws?

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October
29, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the Jaws
Tandem feature.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
1 is
JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015
2. Then down below you also have
Non-Tandem builds
JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English - October 2015
So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the
second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still
need to down load it.
Many Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
"that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Janie Degenshein]

I had loads of sessions helping and they run as long as the two keep it open

-Original Message- 
From: Mario 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:15 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem 

David, do you know how long can a session last until the connection is 
terminated? I might have to initiate a connection to help someone but 
don't know how long the session is going to take.



On 10/30/2015 7:01 AM, David Ferrin wrote:

Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best
feature to come along since free delivery of Chinese food.

Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs
to be authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes
which normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. I
have been on the controlling side so many times it isn't even possible
to guess.

It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who takes
control of your system because they have the same ability to do things
as if they were sitting at your desk themselves.


-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?

Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help you
fix the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, but in
this case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to work.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the
tandem feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I
believe you have to have Jaws Professional.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:

what's the Tandem feature of jaws?

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October
29, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the Jaws
Tandem feature.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
1 is
JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015
2. Then down below you also have
Non-Tandem builds
JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English - October 2015
So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the
second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still
need to down load it.
Many Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
"that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[Kimsan]

I agree, but Chinese has free delivery?
I have to pay 10 to 15 bucks for delivery. Lol.

SuccessfulImpact.com

www.Successfulimpact.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best feature to
come along since free delivery of Chinese food.

Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs to be
authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes which
normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. I have been
on the controlling side so many times it isn't even possible to guess.

It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who takes
control of your system because they have the same ability to do things as if
they were sitting at your desk themselves.


-Original Message-
From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?

Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help you fix
the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, but in this
case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to work.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the tandem
feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I believe you
have to have Jaws Professional.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:
> what's the Tandem feature of jaws?
>
> -Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October 
> 29,
> 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
> [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
> I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the Jaws 
> Tandem feature.
>
> Shane
>
> On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
>> I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
>> I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
>> 1 is
>> JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015 2. Then down below you 
>> also have Non-Tandem builds JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English 
>> - October 2015 So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
>> Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the 
>> second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
>> If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still 
>> need to down load it.
>> Many Thanks.
>> Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a 
>> cane paws down any day of the week."
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

[David Ferrin]

Well they do expect a tip which I am happy to provide.

FYI the instructions I previously mentioned about One Drive will be posted 
in a few minutes under the windows 10 banner.


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

I agree, but Chinese has free delivery?
I have to pay 10 to 15 bucks for delivery. Lol.

SuccessfulImpact.com

www.Successfulimpact.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem

Tandem has been around for 7 years already and IMO still the best feature to
come along since free delivery of Chinese food.

Neither party needs the pro version but the controlling computer needs to be
authorized where the client can run in demo mode for 40 minutes which
normally is enough time to fix whatever the issue happens to be. I have been
on the controlling side so many times it isn't even possible to guess.

It was initiated in JAWS 10, just be sure you trust the person who takes
control of your system because they have the same ability to do things as if
they were sitting at your desk themselves.


-Original Message-
From: Shane Hecker
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?

Say you have a problem on your computer. I am running Jaws, so are you.
We could set it up where I can take control of your computer to help you fix
the problem. Ever heard of NVDA Remote? It's sort of similar, but in this
case, both people have to have Jaws on the machine for it to work.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but if you wanted to initiate the tandem
feature (you want to take control of someone else's machine), I believe you
have to have Jaws Professional.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 9:31 PM, Kevin wrote:

what's the Tandem feature of jaws?

-Original Message- From: Shane Hecker Sent: Thursday, October
29,
2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] Which jaws 64 file do I want to down load?
I'd go with the first one. That is unless you will never need the Jaws
Tandem feature.

Shane

On 10/29/2015 4:09 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

I ask the following question because there are two j17 version 64.
I so far have graded the top version which is as follows:
1 is
JAWS 17.0.1010 64-bit English - October 2015 2. Then down below you
also have Non-Tandem builds JAWS 17.0.1010 Non-Tandem 64-bit English
- October 2015 So, I ask, which file do I need to grab?
Do I need the first 64 version which is what I have or do I need the
second 64 version which is the Non-Tandem version?
If I need the seond copy which is the Non-Tandem version, II still
need to down load it.
Many Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[david]

hello;

can you elaborate a little more regarding team viewer.

are you able to use this with jaws?
how do you hear the other computer?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Team viewer is pretty sweet. I used it the other day to help someone with
their issue.
If tandom becomes a paid survice, which I don't seeing it being so.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service. 

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks. 

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on. 

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Kimsan]

With teamviewer I can remote into another persons comp and work on it.
However, just like tandom, the other person must have team viewer installed.

Kinda to tandom, there is a code that one must input then viola.  I've been
on both ends of the spectrum. Received help and gave help.
I tricked my 8 year old to thinking that I could use my comp from  across
the room.  This person was using it and she was all surprised because my
hands were not on it and things were being done to it.
To answer your question, though, yes, I've used it with jaws.
I think teamviewer is good for those who do not use jaws, for example, last
week I helped a window eyes user.  Yes, we could've used their remote
assistance feature but I will not go there.

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Behalf Of david
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

hello;

can you elaborate a little more regarding team viewer.

are you able to use this with jaws?
how do you hear the other computer?



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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Team viewer is pretty sweet. I used it the other day to help someone with
their issue.
If tandom becomes a paid survice, which I don't seeing it being so.

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service. 

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks. 

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on. 

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[David Ferrin]

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers. 

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy. 

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time. 
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Richard P. Kelly]

Greetings,

 

My experience with Tandem has been very good. 

Has the issue you encountered been when you gain access to another PC, when
you allow access to your PC, or regardless of who initiates the tandem
session? When the lag occurs, do you know what type of connection the two
PC's have?  I'm wondering if it could be due to slow internet connectivity
on one or both machines, or a lack of sufficient system resources.

Running Win 7 64bit Pro, I7 processor, 9G ram and 12 meg DSL

 

HTH

 

Cordially,

Richard P. Kelly

 

rpke...@iowatelecom.net

r...@new-visions-network.org

http://www.new-visions-network.com

 

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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 5:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

 

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Trish]

I totally agree with you that this is almost best thing ever to happen. I 
hope FS never removes this from Jaws updates. I say for the most part the 
connection is pretty good, occasionally it's dropped, but it's rare.
The first time I tandemed with someone, they had the control, it was 
laughable my computer was talking on it's on and going all over the place, I 
had to sit on my hands not to touch the keyboard.
Now, it's not a problem, FS has made the process so easy to get to and to 
utilize.
The best part is, someone needing to look at your system, and you might not 
be able to explain the problems, they can look around on their end even if 
their miles away and locate the issues going on.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Tom]

I'm new to these tandum emails. how do I set up a tandum connection?

-Original Message- 
From: Trish

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I totally agree with you that this is almost best thing ever to happen. I
hope FS never removes this from Jaws updates. I say for the most part the
connection is pretty good, occasionally it's dropped, but it's rare.
The first time I tandemed with someone, they had the control, it was
laughable my computer was talking on it's on and going all over the place, I
had to sit on my hands not to touch the keyboard.
Now, it's not a problem, FS has made the process so easy to get to and to
utilize.
The best part is, someone needing to look at your system, and you might not
be able to explain the problems, they can look around on their end even if
their miles away and locate the issues going on.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[David Ferrin]

screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers. 

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy. 

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time. 
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Fanus]

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was 
that it would be free for a while and thereafter FS would 
charge a fee. Did FS indeed start charging for the service 
and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger 
slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good 
but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to 
encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my 
desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter 
scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have 
to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the 
impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they 
are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less 
free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy 
keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws 
would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, 
because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[david]

hello the only time I've had issues with the jaws tandem is?
when I've connected to client's computer, and they've forgot to turn off the
ocr, especially kurzweil.
it never fails, when I connect to a computer, with kurzweil opened, jaws
will freeze within 15 minutes or so.
normally what happens is, I'm able to hear jaws, however, client cannot.
client's computer seems to freeze,
eventually, I need to disconnect, and get client to somehow reboot.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was 
that it would be free for a while and thereafter FS would 
charge a fee. Did FS indeed start charging for the service 
and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger 
slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good 
but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to 
encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my 
desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter 
scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have 
to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the 
impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they 
are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less 
free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy 
keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws 
would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, 
because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[David Ferrin]

It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service. 

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks. 

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on. 

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger 
slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good 
but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to 
encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my 
desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter 
scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have 
to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the 
impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they 
are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less 
free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy 
keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws 
would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, 
because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Charles Rivard]

Just curious about something:  Do you work for FS with those slippery 
fingers?


---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem



screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All 
in

all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop 
talking

and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because 
moving

around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Charles Rivard]

Rule of thumb:  You will always lose.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I 
used

the service.

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact 
is

if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that 
to

lose money helping folks.

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be 
paid

and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on.

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would 
be

free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger
slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good
but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to
encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my
desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter
scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have
to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the
impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they
are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less
free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy
keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws
would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well,
because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[David Ferrin]

No I do not work for FS. 
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Just curious about something:  Do you work for FS with those slippery
fingers?

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


 screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

 David Ferrin
 ow...@jaws-users.com
 Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
 ones that mind don't matter.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of David Ferrin
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

 I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also 
 I've experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to 
 encounter. All in all though it is still the best feature to come 
 across my desk since the invention of the talking calculator, or for 
 that matter scream readers.

 The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk 
 folks step by step to accomplish something. It also made the 
 impossible possible because some things I won't walk people step by 
 step as they are far too touchy.

 The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
 David Ferrin
 ow...@jaws-users.com
 Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
 ones that mind don't matter.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

 Hi,

 What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do 
 you experience what I experience during a session where jaws would 
 stop talking and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  
 Also, when it stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as 
 well, because moving around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. 
 Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[David Ferrin]

This is true. I'm trying to imagine how many people out there are calling me
cheep right about now just because I express my views. 

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Rule of thumb:  You will always lose.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


 It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I 
 used the service.

 It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The 
 fact is if it would become a paid service then quite a number of 
 people will be going without help because I don't plan on paying for 
 something like that to lose money helping folks.

 Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be 
 paid and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on.

 There is a talk I don't want to have.
 David Ferrin
 ow...@jaws-users.com
 Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
 ones that mind don't matter.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Fanus
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

 Hello David
 When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it 
 would be free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS 
 indeed start charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
 Regards
 Fanus

 - Original Message -
 From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


 screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

 David Ferrin
 ow...@jaws-users.com
 Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
 ones that mind don't matter.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
 Ferrin
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

 I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also 
 I've experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to 
 encounter. All in all though it is still the best feature to come 
 across my desk since the invention of the talking calculator, or for 
 that matter scream readers.

 The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk 
 folks step by step to accomplish something. It also made the 
 impossible possible because some things I won't walk people step by 
 step as they are far too touchy.

 The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
 David Ferrin
 ow...@jaws-users.com
 Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
 ones that mind don't matter.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

 Hi,

 What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy keen, or do 
 you experience what I experience during a session where jaws would 
 stop talking and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?
 Also, when it
 stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because 
 moving around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[David Ferrin]

This is true, I've been in your system a number of times wouldn't you say
Lee.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of blindle...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom


i havent  had any nproblems with tandom 
 
your friend  lee  

 
In a message dated 3/9/2014 6:57:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kimsans...@aol.com writes:

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything  peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where  jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking  again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else  stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,   neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[john Justice]

(grin)!  Not unless you want her to use you for target practice.
Same here, David.  Not enough money to do what I'd like, just what I have to
do.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service. 

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks. 

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on. 

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Trish]

hey, don't give them any ideas,lol


- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service.

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks.

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on.

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger
slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good
but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to
encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my
desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter
scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have
to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the
impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they
are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less
free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy
keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws
would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well,
because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Kimsan]

David:
Thoughts. The client I work with uses Kurzweil and what you just wrote below
is exactly what I had to do the other day; however, my other client, I am
not sure if she uses Kurzweil.  I will eat some sscooby snacks and get on
the case!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of david
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

hello the only time I've had issues with the jaws tandem is?
when I've connected to client's computer, and they've forgot to turn off the
ocr, especially kurzweil.
it never fails, when I connect to a computer, with kurzweil opened, jaws
will freeze within 15 minutes or so.
normally what happens is, I'm able to hear jaws, however, client cannot.
client's computer seems to freeze,
eventually, I need to disconnect, and get client to somehow reboot.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger 
slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good 
but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to 
encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my 
desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter 
scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have 
to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the 
impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they 
are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less 
free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't 
mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy 
keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws 
would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, 
because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Kimsan]

Team viewer is pretty sweet. I used it the other day to help someone with
their issue.
If tandom becomes a paid survice, which I don't seeing it being so.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

It is still free as of a couple of weeks ago which was the last time I used
the service. 

It looks like it is going to stay that way, at least I hope so. The fact is
if it would become a paid service then quite a number of people will be
going without help because I don't plan on paying for something like that to
lose money helping folks. 

Picture this conversation with my wife, honey our taxes are due to be paid
and so is my tandem subscription that I am losing money on. 

There is a talk I don't want to have.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hello David
When jaws tandem was introduced I recall that the idea was that it would be
free for a while and thereafter FS would charge a fee. Did FS indeed start
charging for the service and if so, what are the charges?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


screen readers, no doubt I'll get teased for my finger slipping.

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandem? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again? 
Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[Kimsan]

Trish:
I agree. Tandom is the greatest thing since slice bread.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

I totally agree with you that this is almost best thing ever to happen. I
hope FS never removes this from Jaws updates. I say for the most part the
connection is pretty good, occasionally it's dropped, but it's rare.
The first time I tandemed with someone, they had the control, it was
laughable my computer was talking on it's on and going all over the place, I
had to sit on my hands not to touch the keyboard.
Now, it's not a problem, FS has made the process so easy to get to and to
utilize.
The best part is, someone needing to look at your system, and you might not
be able to explain the problems, they can look around on their end even if
their miles away and locate the issues going on.

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem


I've done a lot of tandem sessions myself. Most of them good but also I've
experienced pretty much every possible glitch there is to encounter. All in
all though it is still the best feature to come across my desk since the
invention of the talking calculator, or for that matter scream readers.

The thing is it made the possible faster since I don't have to walk folks
step by step to accomplish something. It also made the impossible possible
because some things I won't walk people step by step as they are far too
touchy.

The down side is that it gave me more work to do and less free time.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandom

Hi,

What are folks experiences with tandom? Everything peachy keen, or do you
experience what I experience during a session where jaws would stop talking
and one must wait a few until jaws starts talking again?  Also, when it
stops talking, it seems as if everything else stops as well, because moving
around with alt-tab, does not work,  neither. Thoughts?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandem Session Was Successful

[David Ferrin]

Oh it weren't nothing, although the phone normally doesn't ring at 9:45 very
often. 

David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Donnie Parrett
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:33 PM
To: JAWS-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Tandom Session Was Successful

Thanks to a little assistance from Mr. Ferrin, the Tandom session I did
tonight was successful!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[inamuddin]

Dear friend, in my opinion, yes you can.
With regards from Inamuddin with the skype id: charlsdarwin1

- Original Message - 
From: jim buckeye...@wowway.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:21 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem



Hi group:

Using Jaws tamdem with two computers with Jaws 14 installed on both of 
them, can you tandem from one having windows 7, to one having windows 8?
Other words, Can I use my windows 7 desktop computer to tandem with my 
wife’s windows 8 laptop computer when she gets it this week?

Any help will be appreciated, thank you all...

Jim

God bless...

You can reach me on skype at:
Skype ID: buckeye.jim

GO BUCKEYES!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem

[tim]

Yes you can as long as your jaws is equal or 
higher version than the computer you are connecting to.


At 07:21 PM 4/6/2013, you wrote:
Hi group: Using Jaws tamdem with two computers 
with Jaws 14 installed on both of them, can you 
tandem from one having windows 7, to one having 
windows 8? Other words, Can I use my windows 7 
desktop computer to tandem with my wife’s 
windows 8 laptop computer when she gets it this 
week? Any help will be appreciated, thank you 
all... Jim God bless... You can reach me on 
skype at: Skype ID: buckeye.jim GO BUCKEYES!!! 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Chris Hallsworth]

The same is true for the third party firewall I discovered yesterday. I 
will tell you about this on the JAWS list soon. It's free and is accessible.


Chris Hallsworth
e-mail and Facebook: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

On 20/01/2010 23:48, tim wrote:

Check the firewall settings on both, because if using the standard
windows firewall it does create exceptions for them. But not for third
party firewalls.
In the tandom list are some quick start guides. A look in there may help
you on the firewall.


At 12:29 PM 1/20/2010, you wrote:

I am using the tandem center.
But like i keep saying when i conick it keep timing out.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

So far i have had a sighted person use msn to get
my computer and tandom to get another computer to
let the sighted person make the adjustments
needed by a sighted person. So it can be used very efficient.
you have to use the tandom center not direct. The
direct is paid and center is the free for now.
Just bring up the tandom center on xp allow
access to computer and the vista is get access to a computer.
Type in the code generated by the vista one into xp, and your now
connected.

JAWS Tandem Keystrokes

* INSERT+ALT+T - ends session and can be
issued from controller or target systems.
* Note: You can also use this keystroke to
start JAWS Tandem on a target system.
* INSERT+ALT+TAB - toggles between target
system's desktop and controller system's desktop.
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.
* INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V - toggles video on or
off. Video is off by default. When video is on,
it lets sighted users watch JAWS Tandem activity.
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.


Remote Clipboard

Use the CTRL+C keystroke to copy text with
formatting from the target system, and then use
CTRL+V to paste text into a file on the
controller system. This is ideal for support
personnel who want to copy specific text from a log file on the target
system.

Note: Remote Clipboard will not transfer files.


Disconnecting a Session

Press INSERT+ALT+T to terminate a session at any
time from either the controller system or the
target system. Each system regains control of its own desktop.


Tandem Direct Session

A Tandem Direct session is used for enterprise
networks in a business when two JAWS users are
connected to the same network. All functionality
and keystrokes previously mentioned for a Tandem
Center session are applicable for a Tandem Direct session.


At 12:48 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my
desktop that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it
from my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[David La Caille]

So ok rick and david, if so , then what or why is it timeing out?
It would start to work and then timing out.
What do i do.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

So have I as a matter of fact.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Not true, I have connected to my laptop from the desktop with tandem,
right here in the same room.
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Rick Harmon]

Wish I knew, I haven't ever had that happen here.  Sorry I can't be of more 
help.
Only thing I could guess about is possibly your firewall settings?  Do you 
have somekind of software firewall on your systems?  It's possible it could 
be blocking tandem there.  Just a guess though.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: David La Caille d.saga...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


So ok rick and david, if so , then what or why is it timeing out?
It would start to work and then timing out.
What do i do.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

So have I as a matter of fact.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Not true, I have connected to my laptop from the desktop with tandem,
right here in the same room.
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[David La Caille]

But both of them have jaws 10 on them.
It would start as i said but it keep timing out.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Remember that the controlling computer has to have an equal or more 
advanced version of JAWS than the slave.  A JAWS10 master cannot 
control a JAWS11 slave.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[David La Caille]

I am using the tandem center.
But like i keep saying when i conick it keep timing out.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

So far i have had a sighted person use msn to get 
my computer and tandom to get another computer to 
let the sighted person make the adjustments 
needed by a sighted person. So it can be used very efficient.
you have to use the tandom center not direct. The 
direct is paid and center is the free for now.
Just bring up the tandom center on xp allow 
access to computer and the vista is get access to a computer.
Type in the code generated by the vista one into xp, and your now connected.

JAWS Tandem Keystrokes

* INSERT+ALT+T - ends session and can be 
issued from controller or target systems.
* Note: You can also use this keystroke to 
start JAWS Tandem on a target system.
* INSERT+ALT+TAB - toggles between target 
system's desktop and controller system's desktop. 
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.
* INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V - toggles video on or 
off. Video is off by default. When video is on, 
it lets sighted users watch JAWS Tandem activity. 
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.


Remote Clipboard

Use the CTRL+C keystroke to copy text with 
formatting from the target system, and then use 
CTRL+V to paste text into a file on the 
controller system. This is ideal for support 
personnel who want to copy specific text from a log file on the target
system.

Note: Remote Clipboard will not transfer files.


Disconnecting a Session

Press INSERT+ALT+T to terminate a session at any 
time from either the controller system or the 
target system. Each system regains control of its own desktop.


Tandem Direct Session

A Tandem Direct session is used for enterprise 
networks in a business when two JAWS users are 
connected to the same network. All functionality 
and keystrokes previously mentioned for a Tandem 
Center session are applicable for a Tandem Direct session.


At 12:48 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[David Ferrin]

The only reason it would time out is if the target system is using a demo 
version of jaws.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: David La Caille d.saga...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


So ok rick and david, if so , then what or why is it timeing out?
It would start to work and then timing out.
What do i do.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

So have I as a matter of fact.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Not true, I have connected to my laptop from the desktop with tandem,
right here in the same room.
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Chris Hallsworth]

I agree with Rick here in that the connection is timing out, possibly 
due to a misconfiguration in the software firewall if he has one. Rather 
than the actual Tandem session timing out.


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On 20/01/2010 17:21, David La Caille wrote:

But both of them have jaws 10 on them.
It would start as i said but it keep timing out.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Remember that the controlling computer has to have an equal or more
advanced version of JAWS than the slave.  A JAWS10 master cannot
control a JAWS11 slave.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[tim]

Check the firewall settings on both, because if using the standard 
windows firewall it does create exceptions for them. But not for 
third party firewalls.
In the tandom list are some quick start guides. A look in there may 
help you on the firewall.



At 12:29 PM 1/20/2010, you wrote:

I am using the tandem center.
But like i keep saying when i conick it keep timing out.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

So far i have had a sighted person use msn to get
my computer and tandom to get another computer to
let the sighted person make the adjustments
needed by a sighted person. So it can be used very efficient.
you have to use the tandom center not direct. The
direct is paid and center is the free for now.
Just bring up the tandom center on xp allow
access to computer and the vista is get access to a computer.
Type in the code generated by the vista one into xp, and your now connected.

JAWS Tandem Keystrokes

* INSERT+ALT+T - ends session and can be
issued from controller or target systems.
* Note: You can also use this keystroke to
start JAWS Tandem on a target system.
* INSERT+ALT+TAB - toggles between target
system's desktop and controller system's desktop.
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.
* INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V - toggles video on or
off. Video is off by default. When video is on,
it lets sighted users watch JAWS Tandem activity.
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.


Remote Clipboard

Use the CTRL+C keystroke to copy text with
formatting from the target system, and then use
CTRL+V to paste text into a file on the
controller system. This is ideal for support
personnel who want to copy specific text from a log file on the target
system.

Note: Remote Clipboard will not transfer files.


Disconnecting a Session

Press INSERT+ALT+T to terminate a session at any
time from either the controller system or the
target system. Each system regains control of its own desktop.


Tandem Direct Session

A Tandem Direct session is used for enterprise
networks in a business when two JAWS users are
connected to the same network. All functionality
and keystrokes previously mentioned for a Tandem
Center session are applicable for a Tandem Direct session.


At 12:48 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Jerry Posey]

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Chris Hallsworth]

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying 
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?


Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related 
question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.


On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Jerry Posey]

I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
tandem direct in the help file.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying 
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:
 Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet
so
 it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on
two
 different internet connections.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
 Caille
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Hi all.

 Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

 I am trying to use it but it not working right.

 I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
 that
 has xp and jaws 10.

 But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it
from
 my
 laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

 Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Hannah Day]

ar right that is interesting . thanks tor telling us

chat soon hannah


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On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote:

I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
tandem direct in the help file.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet

so

it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on

two

different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it

from

my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Chris Hallsworth]

Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of 
$495 ($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not 
sure if you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very 
costly if so.


Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related 
question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.


On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote:

I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
tandem direct in the help file.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet

so

it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on

two

different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it

from

my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Donald Marang]

There is always System Access Remote Access which  is designed for that 
purpose and is much cheaper!  I have been tempted just for that purpose.  I 
am tired of crawling around the house to fix my kids' computers.  I think 
there is currently special pricing of $10 per month.


Don Marang

--
From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of $495 
($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not sure if 
you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very costly if so.


Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related 
question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.


On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote:

I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
tandem direct in the help file.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet

so

it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on

two

different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it

from

my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Kimsan Song]

$10? Let me know where you find that.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

There is always System Access Remote Access which  is designed for that 
purpose and is much cheaper!  I have been tempted just for that purpose.  I 
am tired of crawling around the house to fix my kids' computers.  I think 
there is currently special pricing of $10 per month.

Don Marang

--
From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of $495

 ($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not sure if 
 you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very costly if so.

 Chris Hallsworth
 e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
 MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
 Skype: chrishallsworth7266

 I am also on Facebook.
 If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related 
 question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

 On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote:
 I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
 two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
 computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
 tandem direct in the help file.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
 Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying
 then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

 Chris Hallsworth
 e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
 MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
 Skype: chrishallsworth7266

 I am also on Facebook.
 If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

 question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

 On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:
 Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet
 so
 it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on
 two
 different internet connections.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
 Caille
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Hi all.

 Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

 I am trying to use it but it not working right.

 I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
 that
 has xp and jaws 10.

 But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it
 from
 my
 laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

 Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Donald Marang]

Not really appropriate here, but I heard about this as an option of a Build 
a Bundle special in a recent podcast.  I have not purchased this yet, and 
may never.  If you still need more details, contact me off list at: 
donald.mar...@gmail.com


SeroTalk Tech Chat 47 :
http://serotalk.com/feed/

Don Marang

--
From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


$10? Let me know where you find that.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

There is always System Access Remote Access which  is designed for that
purpose and is much cheaper!  I have been tempted just for that purpose. 
I

am tired of crawling around the house to fix my kids' computers.  I think
there is currently special pricing of $10 per month.

Don Marang

--
From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of 
$495



($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not sure if
you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very costly if so.

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related
question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote:

I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
tandem direct in the help file.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet

so

it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on

two

different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it

from

my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Kimsan Song]

I'll drop it. I don't need the off topic police coming after me.
Thanks for the thought, though.

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Not really appropriate here, but I heard about this as an option of a Build

a Bundle special in a recent podcast.  I have not purchased this yet, and 
may never.  If you still need more details, contact me off list at: 
donald.mar...@gmail.com

SeroTalk Tech Chat 47 :
http://serotalk.com/feed/

Don Marang

--
From: Kimsan Song blindgu...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 $10? Let me know where you find that.

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 There is always System Access Remote Access which  is designed for that
 purpose and is much cheaper!  I have been tempted just for that purpose. 
 I
 am tired of crawling around the house to fix my kids' computers.  I think
 there is currently special pricing of $10 per month.

 Don Marang

 --
 From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:48 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Be aware if you do not have it you will have to pay a one time fee of 
 $495

 ($295 if you already have the Remote Access option). I'm also not sure if
 you require JAWS Professional either, so that would be very costly if so.

 Chris Hallsworth
 e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
 MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
 Skype: chrishallsworth7266

 I am also on Facebook.
 If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related
 question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

 On 19/01/2010 20:39, Jerry Posey wrote:
 I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
 two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
 computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
 tandem direct in the help file.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
 Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying
 then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

 Chris Hallsworth
 e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
 MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
 Skype: chrishallsworth7266

 I am also on Facebook.
 If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

 question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

 On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:
 Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet
 so
 it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on
 two
 different internet connections.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
 Caille
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Hi all.

 Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

 I am trying to use it but it not working right.

 I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
 that
 has xp and jaws 10.

 But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it
 from
 my
 laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

 Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[tim]

No, they don't do it all the time using my vista to xp and back.

At 03:02 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:

Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[tim]

So far i have had a sighted person use msn to get 
my computer and tandom to get another computer to 
let the sighted person make the adjustments 
needed by a sighted person. So it can be used very efficient.
you have to use the tandom center not direct. The 
direct is paid and center is the free for now.
Just bring up the tandom center on xp allow 
access to computer and the vista is get access to a computer.

Type in the code generated by the vista one into xp, and your now connected.

JAWS Tandem Keystrokes

   * INSERT+ALT+T – ends session and can be 
issued from controller or target systems.
   * Note: You can also use this keystroke to 
start JAWS Tandem on a target system.
   * INSERT+ALT+TAB – toggles between target 
system’s desktop and controller system’s desktop. 
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.
   * INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+V – toggles video on or 
off. Video is off by default. When video is on, 
it lets sighted users watch JAWS Tandem activity. 
Only available on controller system; cannot be used by target system.



Remote Clipboard

Use the CTRL+C keystroke to copy text with 
formatting from the target system, and then use 
CTRL+V to paste text into a file on the 
controller system. This is ideal for support 
personnel who want to copy specific text from a log file on the target system.


Note: Remote Clipboard will not transfer files.


Disconnecting a Session

Press INSERT+ALT+T to terminate a session at any 
time from either the controller system or the 
target system. Each system regains control of its own desktop.



Tandem Direct Session

A Tandem Direct session is used for enterprise 
networks in a business when two JAWS users are 
connected to the same network. All functionality 
and keystrokes previously mentioned for a Tandem 
Center session are applicable for a Tandem Direct session.



At 12:48 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Rick Justice]

Not true, I have connected to my laptop from the desktop with tandem,
right here in the same room.
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Rick Harmon]

Again not true, I have done it here and it works just fine.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


I haven't tried it but you would have to use tandem direct to connect
two computers on the same network. From reading you have to start at the
computer you want to access and make up your own access ID. Read about
tandem direct in the help file.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying 
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related

question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:
 Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet
so
 it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on
two
 different internet connections.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
 Caille
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Hi all.

 Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

 I am trying to use it but it not working right.

 I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
 that
 has xp and jaws 10.

 But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it
from
 my
 laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

 Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Rick Harmon]

Not true, I do this all the time here and it works just fine.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Oh I didn't know this. Thanks for letting me know. So are you saying 
then that I can't control my netbook from my laptop?

Chris Hallsworth
e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com
MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com
Skype: chrishallsworth7266

I am also on Facebook.
If you need help with your computer, or you just have a computer-related 
question, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

On 19/01/2010 20:02, Jerry Posey wrote:
 Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
 it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
 different internet connections.

 Jerry

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
 Caille
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

 Hi all.

 Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

 I am trying to use it but it not working right.

 I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
 that
 has xp and jaws 10.

 But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
 my
 laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

 Like some help please.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Rick Harmon]

Me too many times.  Thanks for the confirmations.

Rick

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From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Not true, I have connected to my laptop from the desktop with tandem,
right here in the same room.
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[Ann Byrne]

Remember that the controlling computer has to have an equal or more 
advanced version of JAWS than the slave.  A JAWS10 master cannot 
control a JAWS11 slave.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

[David Ferrin]

So have I as a matter of fact.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Not true, I have connected to my laptop from the desktop with tandem,
right here in the same room.
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Posey jerry.po...@envisionus.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.


Because both computers use the same IP address to get to the internet so
it thinks you are trying to connect to yourself. They have to be on two
different internet connections.

Jerry

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David La
Caille
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws tandem not working right.

Hi all.

Just wanted to know if anybody use jaws tandem?

I am trying to use it but it not working right.

I am on my laptop with vista and jaws 10, and i want to see my desktop
that
has xp and jaws 10.

But when i put in the code in the desktop jaws and i try to use it from
my
laptop the desktop jaws timing out in 4c and id oh no why.

Like some help please.

 

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