Re: [lace] Re: busy lists?
Normally I'd switch this to chat, but since people on lace have been complaining about few emails, I figure they won't mind... On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:34:46AM -0500, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: > On Nov 17, 2004, at 1:43, Helene Gannac wrote: > > >You wouldn't catch my DH making Xmas presents, cooking Xmas food or > >writing Xmas cards > > Hah! I came, I fought, I conquered :) Yep. Same here! I might deal with presents, since I enjoy it, but I'm sure not writing any cards (neither is Geoffrey, for that matter - some people might get emails, but that's it...). And my approach to cooking is shown by the following conversation between me and Geoffrey, when I was making dinner: me: "Want to help?" Geoffrey: "Not really..." me: "Want to eat??" His sister thought it was hilarious. > But, "writing at Christmas is a woman's job"??? I'm supposed to send 50 > copies of a mimeographed blah to people I've never even heard about, > but DH thinks we should send a card to at Christmas??? I think the more common version of this problem is that the woman actually wants to send people cards, and the man doesn't care - I know that's what it's like in my house, which is why mom ends up doing all of the writing, but she only writes to people she cares about. > A culture across > the ocean, and 25 yrs age difference - think again... :) This is interesting. Judging by our very small sample of 2 Poles on Arachne, we're less likely to do typically female things in the house... Somehow I suspect that this is related less to *being* Polish and more to having *gotten out* of Poland . I don't really have anything against Poland, but I like the US, or at least the piece I'm in, much better... > Once I > started making lace, he'll often ask me to provide him with cards with > the year's ornament (if I managed to come up with one) but, he sends > his, and I send mine, and, occasionally, someone gets two of the same, > but nobody's complained so far, since they're not in fiftyplicate as to > text... Now here's an amusing random idea: how would this system work applied to wedding invitations? . Me and Geoffrey are going to have to send a bunch this year... It would be pretty amusing for people to get these in duplicate. This whole wedding thing is so complicated... Especially with me trying to get rid of as many traditional elements as possible (nice quote from a friend of mine, also getting married this year: "my father will give me away the day he can show reciepts for having bought me in the first place" ). Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: busy lists?
On Nov 17, 2004, at 1:43, Helene Gannac wrote: You wouldn't catch my DH making Xmas presents, cooking Xmas food or writing Xmas cards Hah! I came, I fought, I conquered :) Not only am *I* a dyed-in-the-wool atheist (I believe in a moral compass, but it's not directed by a god of any kind), but both my parents were as well. Additionally, I've always had a low level of tolerance for hypocrisy (which, with my usual lack of "couth", I call BS. No reflection on the current representative of US, however much the shoe fits) I took over the making and wrapping of the Christmas presents early on, because it was a *joy*; having grown up with 50 shades/grades of beige/grey paper (from toilet to newspaper), the very idea of having a wrapping paper *in colours*, with ribbons to match - or contrast - was enough to pop *fireworks* of enjoyment. But, "writing at Christmas is a woman's job"??? I'm supposed to send 50 copies of a mimeographed blah to people I've never even heard about, but DH thinks we should send a card to at Christmas??? A culture across the ocean, and 25 yrs age difference - think again... :) Once I started making lace, he'll often ask me to provide him with cards with the year's ornament (if I managed to come up with one) but, he sends his, and I send mine, and, occasionally, someone gets two of the same, but nobody's complained so far, since they're not in fiftyplicate as to text... I've knuckled under in many ways but, in the 30+ yrs of marriage, *both of us* had to learn that "there are limits, sweetie" :) --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Practical Skills
there is a copy of Practical Skills on Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0486255611/qid=1100675894/sr=12 -1/104-3225690-3309557?v=glance&s=books for $89.89 Gold plated pages??? Not for me this Christmas, I'm afraid. Maxine in N.Z., where it dried out and warmed up a bit today, so I mowed the lawns and am feeling virtuous, but I would still rather make lace. Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] what price the dollar?(lace)
Tamara wrote: > Out of sheer cussedness, I checked the currency converter on the day of delivery (Oct 19) and it would have cost me U$ 31.30, had she not been honest. I checked again today, and the same GBP 17.99 "translates" to U$ 33.32. That means, that the buying power of the (once almighty) dollar has shrunk to 80/% in half a year (or less). I sympathize with you all, don't get me wrong, but think of us poor Australians (and New Zealanders too) who changed the currency from pounds to dollars in the late sixties. At first, our dollar was worth half a pound, since that's how they worked it out. It was also worth half an Engllish pound at the time, and one American dollar. Thirty odd years later, our dollar is worth about 35 English pence, and about 65-68 American cents. How's that for inflation? Helene, the poor froggy from Melbourne Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] christening gown pattern (lace)
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, at 02:48 AM, Helene Gannac wrote: I can't remember exactly where, but I saw a round christening robe somewhere (could it have been in "Lace"?) with lace around the edge. It is really clever, as it has a central hole for the neck, and little slits to put the hands through, and it fits any size baby!!! Someone on the list may know who made it and where the pattern comes from? We saw something similar last summer on the lace tour after the OIDFA Congress. Lace made by Gabriele Grohmann was displayed in Klatovy and she had made a Christening dress similar to Helene's description, except that there was an inner dress of cloth and an outer one of lace. It was really marvelous. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] christening gown pattern (lace)
Anita wrote: >BTW, has anyone got a nice pattern for said christening gown that I might borrow? I've looked in Vogue, Butterick, Simplicity, etc. etc. but not been 100% pleased with the patterns there. I can't remember exactly where, but I saw a round christening robe somewhere (could it have been in "Lace"?) with lace around the edge. It is really clever, as it has a central hole for the neck, and little slits to put the hands through, and it fits any size baby!!! Someone on the list may know who made it and where the pattern comes from? Helene, the froggy from sunny Melbourne Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] busy lists?
Linda wrote: >However, all my husband's astronomy lists are just as busy as ever. Probably mostly men in those, Linda :-)! They've got nothing to do before Xmas! You wouldn't catch my DH making Xmas presents, cooking Xmas food or writing Xmas cards, exept maybe 1-2 for his "work" (He is president of our local Historical Society this year and *very* busy!!) Yours, busy as well, but stopping work next week to do a 3 day workshop with Rosemary Shepherd on Fantasy flowers. Oh! joy!! Followed on the Saturday by our last meeting of the Lace Guild Victorian Branch for the year. Not much lace made that day, I spend the morning supervising my library book returns and borrowing, and in the afternoon, Rosemary will give a talk. I might take my tatting and practice! helene, the froggy from Melbourne, where is is really hot and sunny today, but they are announcing rain for Friday and the weekend, when I'll be free :-( Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] An Australian Bobbin excavated
This may be "old news" to many of you Australians. Currently I am planning to make a film of The Rocks (just an amateur film, for my own interest) and instead of focussing on grand surviving buildings and important men of the past, I want to tell the story of ordinary people and their everyday lives. As the result of this I have been doing a lot of reading about the early history and discovered that amongst the artefacts that were found on the Big Dig in 1984 of Cumberland Street, was a lace bobbin and "lace pins, that had their heads half way down the shaft" (!) I have written to the archaeologist to see where I might view these artefacts (and asked about other sewing tools also). No reply as yet, but I will keep you posted. BTW, "The Rocks" is the earliest settlement of our convict past. Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Is this true
Several copies of this book are available through listings on www.fetchbook.info Some are new. You can also try www.bookfinder.com Both of these sites will search the internet for available books, new and used, in print or out of print, and compare prices. I've had good results finding lace books this way, for great prices, including Practical Skills. Eileen Lee in the San Francisco Bay Area - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Is the list quiet
On Nov 16, 2004, at 17:59, Clay Blackwell wrote: Point being... how many members of our list have been affected by the downturn in the US economy? I know of several, and there may be many more. Affected in many ways (just watching the interest on my investmens dwindle, since *early* '01 - not after 9/11 - hurts :) What price "tax relief?" At least, before, I had something to pay the tax *on*...) but I'll quote only a lace-related one. When Batsford published Sandi Woods' "Alphabet Inspirations" (May? June? July? of this year), in what I have to think of as an excess of the famous British sense of humour, it printed the price in GBP - 17.99, in US dollars - 26.95, and in Canadian dollars - 39.95. Presumably, *at that point*, 17.99 in GBP translated to U$ 26.95. An Arachnean e-friend was coming from UK in October, asked me if there was anything I wanted her to bring, and I said "Sandi's Inspirations, if it's not too much trouble". So, before leaving UK, she went to a nearby lace day on October 4, and bought the book for me. Paid the printed price of GBP 17.99 but, by that day, it was no longer U$ 26.95; it was U$ 30.76. Out of sheer cussedness, I checked the currency converter on the day of delivery (Oct 19) and it would have cost me U$ 31.30, had she not been honest. I checked again today, and the same GBP 17.99 "translates" to U$ 33.32. That means, that the buying power of the (once almighty) dollar has shrunk to 80/% in half a year (or less). Which is why lace vendors in this country, who heavily depend on imported goods, have to keep hiking up their prices every time they do a major re-stock. Until fairly recently (less than 3 months), we were affected - mostly - only if we had "international dealings" (like subscribing to Kniplebrevet or Lace, or planning to go to OIDFA/Prague, or buying threads/books produced abroad), or had investments in "diversified" funds, or else if someone in your family had been laid off and you lost an income (praise be, not in my family). But the world economy is now coming home to roost *at home*. In the last 2 weeks, prices have been skyrocketing... We needed a new fridge, and DH priced them, 3 weeks ago (before elections ). We got it yesterday - the basic price was up by $20, the delivery (about 6 miles away) charge up by $15. Both were "credited" to the hike up in oil prices. Since the sales tax went up half-percent at the beginning of September (which is why I had to up the price of the Two-Pairs), that's also 18 cents extra in tax alone. $35.18 (a book or a good start on a thread stash) to be credited to you-know-who. Affected??? You betcha we're affected. And it's gonna be a long (4 yr), cold, winter for the most of us... For a while, I'd hoped that the Brits would buy most of Florida, but, with 4 hurricanes in one season, that's not likely :) --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] NL in old magazines
Hi All, I've been up to my ears in getting my in-laws into an apartment in town so that's why I've been quiet. We moved them last weekend so I thought my work was done - I'm the only one of the kids and spouses with time to pursue this. Anyway, turns out they're getting the run-around from the phone company - they say they can't turn the phone on for 3 weeks! - and then something else came up so I'm not done yet... However, you all have kept me sane with lacy talk! I will get back to those of you who have written me as soon as I can but here's the lace content for this message. In the February 1903 issue of "The Lace Maker" magazine edited by Sara Hadley and published by her husband, D. S. Bennet, there are two pieces of NL. One is Venetian Point and about that she writes: "A beautiful table set, cloth and doilies, in Venetian point, recently sold for fifteen hundred dollars. Many cost more than this." Wow! There is also a photo of a piece of "Brussells Rose Point" which is the Point de Gaze I learned how to make last October. She writes: "The lace lover who is ambitious to make the Brussels rose point can do so, but cannot work long at it and soon loses patience." Sara Hadley would be very glad to know that people are still learning to make this lovely lace 101 years later! Jane in Vermont, USA trying to enjoy "Stick Season". [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?
Yes, it does look like needle lace when you zoom in. I, too, thought it reminded me of Hollie Point (but in colour not just white). How wonderful. Sue Babbs As for the appearance of the work, I think it looks more like Hollie Point. > resembles Italian Needlelace, especially in its diamond shaped geometrical patterns that it is really quite stunning. To see the piece go to (http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=20&viewmode=0&item=1987.277) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace List is Quiet
I must say, I'm always surprised when I meet lacemakers from other parts of Australia, to find out how many are members of Arachne, but who never contribute anything! At the last conference of the Australian Lace Guild, I was asked by the Secretary of the Guild to chair a meeting of Arachne members one evening. I was very surprised to see how many people were there, and how reluctant members were to write a short report of our conference for all you unfortunate people who couldn't be there! One lady commented: "I've never posted on Arachne, and I'm not going to start now"!! Eventually, as you will remember, I did get a couple of brave souls who agreed to write a small report, and if I remember correctly, there *were* interested comments back from those of you living outside Australia. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Elizabeth Ligeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Woody - you have Lots of knowledge to impart. Don't be so modest!!! :)) :)) And there must be others in Tasmania also on the List that we have not heard from. Tell us what is going on in Tasmania. You people are always saying that you are the forgotten folks - well, now is your chance to beat your own drum :)) For those not good at geography - Tasmania is the little heart-shaped island at the bottom of Australia. It has areas of great beauty, awesome ancient forests, - and a lot of very good lacemakers! Lets hear from some of them! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it is a hot day today. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace List is Quiet
Woody - you have Lots of knowledge to impart. Don't be so modest!!! :)) :)) And there must be others in Tasmania also on the List that we have not heard from. Tell us what is going on in Tasmania. You people are always saying that you are the forgotten folks - well, now is your chance to beat your own drum :)) For those not good at geography - Tasmania is the little heart-shaped island at the bottom of Australia. It has areas of great beauty, awesome ancient forests, - and a lot of very good lacemakers! Lets hear from some of them! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it is a hot day today. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hearts
Hi, Both Roseground and SMP have the book I have just been at both looking for another book. Sonja Sillay - Original Message - From: "Brenda Paternoster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernard Kurz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hearts BTW, one of my students, who is Danish, is looking to purchase that book. She couldn't get it at Tonbridge a few weeks ago. Does anyone know who stocks it, preferably in UK? Brenda On Nov 16, 2004, at 8:56 pm, Bernard Kurz wrote: > Hello, > I recently purchased the book "24 Hearts in Bobbin Lace" by Lene > Bjorn. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hearts
> BTW, one of my students, who is Danish, is looking to purchase that > book. She couldn't get it at Tonbridge a few weeks ago. Does anyone > know who stocks it, preferably in UK? > > Brenda Brenda, Sorry I don't know of a source in UK, but Holly Van Sciver has it on her web site. She accepts Paypal and ships internationally. She lists the price as $21.95 US. Barbara Snoqualmie, WA USA > > > On Nov 16, 2004, at 8:56 pm, Bernard Kurz wrote: > >> Hello, >> I recently purchased the book "24 Hearts in Bobbin Lace" by Lene >> Bjorn. >> I have been reading through it and I am totally confused by the woven >> hearts. I can't figure how they can be woven together when there is no >> opening or open end. I hope someone out there has worked with this >> book and >> can help. >> Thanks, >> Ruth >> >> - >> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: >> unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > Brenda > http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] is this true/Practical Skills
Hi everyone and Sharon > Is it true...is "Practical Skills" out of print? Sharon on wet Vancouver Island I thought it was reissued by Dover? It might be available through Indigo. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (also on Vancouver Island - sunny after a lot of rain)(west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hearts
Ruth I don't actually have that book, but I have seen it and just by chance I was practicing making a woven heart with paper strips just yesterday evening! I suggest you practice with two colours of paper so as not to crumple the lace too much with practice efforts! Cut each piece of paper to fit the pricking (should be a rectangle with curved ends. Fold in half and cut from the folds to make the strips, which are folded into loops. Lay the two folded pieces of paper on top of each other and turn one 90 degrees to make the heart shape. Hold the two so that the top paper (red) has the curved top to your right and the bottom piece (white) has the curve at the top. Now comes the clever bit! Take the top strip of red and pass it *between* the first (right hand side) loop of white paper and bring it up towards you. Now take the 2nd right loop of white and push it down between that first red loop. Then push the same red loop between the next white loop Continue weaving all the loops together in a similar fashion, push it all together closely and hey presto! you should have a heart shaped pocket. BTW, one of my students, who is Danish, is looking to purchase that book. She couldn't get it at Tonbridge a few weeks ago. Does anyone know who stocks it, preferably in UK? Brenda On Nov 16, 2004, at 8:56 pm, Bernard Kurz wrote: Hello, I recently purchased the book "24 Hearts in Bobbin Lace" by Lene Bjorn. I have been reading through it and I am totally confused by the woven hearts. I can't figure how they can be woven together when there is no opening or open end. I hope someone out there has worked with this book and can help. Thanks, Ruth - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hearts
Hi Ruth, I hope I can help. I have this book and made one of the hearts. Not particularly challenging lacemaking, but a nice result. The woven paper hearts are a Swedish traditional decoration, for Christmas! I'd suggest you make a few with colored construction paper and you'll quickly understand what to do with the lace pieces once you've made them. To learn how to make them, look at this web site: http://permo.homepage.dk/ The text is in English. Look down the left-hand side of the page, and under "Woven Paper Hearts," click on Introduction. Everything you need to know is shown in on picture, but if you like, you can go to the other links for variations. Hope this helps, Barbara Snoqualmie, WA > Hello, > I recently purchased the book "24 Hearts in Bobbin Lace" by Lene Bjorn. > I have been reading through it and I am totally confused by the woven > hearts. I can't figure how they can be woven together when there is no > opening or open end. I hope someone out there has worked with this book and > can help. > Thanks, > Ruth > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is the list quiet
Well, Linda - I just had to respond to your note!! Yes, I've noticed that the list is fairly quiet lately myself, and I confess that I have not contributed anything for quite a while (except to ask the same question about the quiet list a month or so ago!) But what made me laugh at your response was the line: "However, all my husband's astronomy lists are just as busy as ever." I know that there are lots of women interested in astronomy, but I'd be willing to bet that those lists are kept humming by the men who are on them! Those of us who make lace often come home from work after a long day, fix dinner for our family, feed the livestock (cats, dogs, assorted rodents maybe...) and tidy up the mess left in the mad dash out the door this morning. Meanwhile, DH is settling down at the computer to chat with his astronomy list... He won't be able to go to his telescope until full dark, and then only if it isn't completely overcast!! And right now, in the US, many families are gearing up for the Thanksgiving feast by preparing favorites ahead and freezing it. (Not I... but I've heard "rumors" ; ) For the past four years, I have stayed home and spent many hours a day making lace and keeping up with the list. Now, however, I have returned to my professional life as a child therapist, and when I get home after a long day ( and they're ALL long!) I barely have the energy to read my email, let alone write to the list. I can hardly wait for the Thanksgiving holiday, because I plan to spend at least HALF of the time making lace!! But you may not hear from me! I'd rather make lace than talk about it!! Point being... how many members of our list have been affected by the downturn in the US economy? I know of several, and there may be many more. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hearts
Hi Ruth, I don't have the book you mention but the 2 sections of the hearts form little pocket when you weave them together. This is hard to explain but see if you can make any sense of this description! Lay the 2 sections folded double with the fingers facing each other. Take the first finger of the right hand section (i.e. the one nearest the middle) and wrap it round the first finger of the left hand section, then thro' the 2nd finger of the left hand section and round the 3rd (and so on depending on how may fingers you have in your heart). Take the next finger of the right section and do the opposite, going thro' where you previously went round. This is the weaving and if you have done it right, you can finally open your heart like a pocket. Then you can attach the strap to hang it up. The Danes use these paper hearts in all kinds of complicated combinations to decorate their Christmas tree. Originally they were made during a wave of patriotism after the 1848-50 war against Prussia. They were made in the red and white colours to symbolise the Danish flag. Try with a paper form first to get the hang of it. I have just had a look on the net and try this link. Click on the union jack and then making a woven Christmas heart! http://www.haabet.dk/users/julehjerter/ All the best and keep bobbin' along from Avril -- And on the 8th day, God created golf courses and lacemakers Avril Bayne Denmark - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is this true?
Seems a shame, it is the one book that I recommend to every lacer. Think I will hug my copy.and keep my eye out for a hard back. BarbE - Original Message - From: Patricia Dowden To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Is this true? Sad to say, yet it is. I was stunned when I found out; no notice, just bang! Now it's only available on the used book market. Patty Dowden - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is this true?
I just checked with www.half.com and they are out. But tomorrow might be a different story. I usally keep an eye out here for lace books. BarbE - Original Message - From: rick &sharon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: [lace] Is this true? Is it true...is "Practical Skills" out of print? Sharon on wet Vancouver Island - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Is this true?
Is it true...is "Practical Skills" out of print? Sharon on wet Vancouver Island --- Sad to say, yet it is. I was stunned when I found out; no notice, just bang! Now it's only available on the used book market. Patty Dowden - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Hearts
Hello, I recently purchased the book "24 Hearts in Bobbin Lace" by Lene Bjorn. I have been reading through it and I am totally confused by the woven hearts. I can't figure how they can be woven together when there is no opening or open end. I hope someone out there has worked with this book and can help. Thanks, Ruth - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Is this true?
Is it true...is "Practical Skills" out of print? Sharon on wet Vancouver Island - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?
Dear Devon, My first thought was "When did Marco Polo go to China?" Sure enough, his dates are 1254-1324. Trade is always a two way street. While I don't necessarily think that it was Marco Polo or his father or their expedition that was the most likely contact point, I do think that traders and travellers could have introduced some European needle work in that period. As early as it is, the Chinese work could be a parallel development that petered out because it didn't suit the Chinese taste. A lot of Chinese embroidery uses filament silk in acres of satin stitch for lustrous, lavish show. The stitching required in this piece creates a much more matte appearance, even with the gold backup group! As for the appearance of the work, I think it looks more like Hollie Point. And I just love the color shading. (Color should be my middle name.) The edges of each element seem to be worked in an even button hole stitch, but not so closely worked as Point de Venise. For me, this opens the question of whether the motif elements were worked separately and then applied or whether they are worked directly on the foundation fabric. If the former, it is a form of lace, if the latter, it is a form of embroidery tantalizing close to lace. My experience of Chinese textiles is that the rich embroideries are not nearly as 3-D as the European needle laces became. The Chinese embroidery is sumptuous but essentially flat and full of shine. (But I may have lead a sheltered life.) Musingly, Patty Dowden Devon wrote: Since the list is quiet, perhaps I could introduce a subject that has me intriqued. The other day I saw a textile at the MMA which looks just like needlelace, being made of detached buttonhole stitch, but dates from the Yuan dynasty(1279-1368). I know that looping stiches have been made in the past. I have even seen some looped net bags in the American Southwest, but this piece so resembles Italian Needlelace, especially in its diamond shaped geometrical patterns that it is really quite stunning. To see the piece go to (http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=20&viewmode=0&item=1987.277) You can enlarge with a zoom, which helps. I had earlier seen on the wall at the Cooper-Hewitt in the non-public areas, a huge enlarged poster of what appeared to be similar Chinese Needlelace depicting a figure. Recently I asked about it and was told that it was actually a small patch on a spectacular Chinese robe, dating, I believe to about the same period. In both cases the needlelace is set against a gold leaf background for ultimate glow effect. Co-incidence? Clue to origin? Thoughts anyone? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Chinese Needle Lace & Jane Nicholas
Thanks Devon, that was an awesome link... the detail is astonishing! As for the lavish-ness of the gold underlying it. One can only dream about materials like that! Once, at least 8 years ago, I had the privilege of sitting in the back of a classroom that Jane was teaching, in at our regional embroiderer's retreat. (I was working on a UFO) Not only is Jane an incredible embroiderer, she is a lovely person and a great teacher who expects to be able to teach a lot in a short time. Hence there is always plenty of homework, and she does not appreciate people turning up to her classes without having done the appropriate preparation, which when you think is not only polite, but you get the most for your money as no time is wasted. Jane is a very patient tutor and so gracious. Had I the $$ I would take a class of hers at the drop of a hat! Maxine - in a very cool New Zealand spring! And as my daughter became engaged in June and married in September, I am now working on another hardanger tablecloth, and the bobbins are too still! :-( Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Southern Counties Lacemakers Fair - Havant
Who's going to Havant on Saturday? I am and so is Liz Pass (both of us from Poole). Are we going to arrange to meet up and put faces to names? We were there two years ago, but went to NEC in Birmingham last year. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Is the list quiet
Dear All, Thank you for all the replies - both personal and to Arachne. I can cope with a quiet list but the thought of no list is almost too much to contemplate. In reply to Jeri's question as to why more Arachne members do not contribute, speaking for myself I can tell you it is because I don't think I have much to contribute. After years of lacemaking I still don't consider I have as much knowledge as most of the members who contribute regularly. Eirwen Woodroffe (Woody) Liffey Tasmania - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] warning
Our group was recently asked to put a lace display in our local museum. Turned out they kept the display for two months. That was a pain because half my equipment was there..like bobbin winder etc. Anyway, I have a warning for those of you who do this sort of thing. Check out the museum thoroughly. I thought my lace would be quite safe since everything was in glass cases. This turned out not to be true. When it was hot the museum had their doors opened, when it was cold they closed them. Overnight or when the museum wasn't open, there was no heat. Well, the climate change in the museum was extreme enough that in one display case things got so damp that the dye from a blue cardboard jewlery box ran and spread through two layers of my antique tablecloth. The cloth is now permanently stained. In addition to this there was also mould growing in the case..not much, but it was there when you really looked. Needless to say, I'll be much more careful before putting lace out again..if I ever do. Sharon on very soggy Vancouver Island - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Organising a lace day
I've been quiet because I've been madly organising... one of my students asked why not organise another Tamworth Lace Day, as there hasn't been one for several years... so as the idea grew very quickly, I got on with making arrangements! The history behind this is that I was the first secretary of the Tamworth Lace Group, back in the early 1990s, and did most of the organisation of the first few annual lace days the group had. These were held at a school, with plenty of free parking space. Then the committee changed, the school doubled their hire charges, and the lace day was moved to a hall in the town centre, next to a municipal pay and display car park - so lace day visitors were competing with town centre shoppers for parking - not a good thing. Numbers dropped, of course, and to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been a lace day in the town this century so far! So, I teach two groups, one in the town, and one in a village just to the north. The village group are Womens Institute members, and hold their WI meetings in another village's hall - competitively priced for hiring, and with its own car park. It made sense to move the lace day to this venue. Combining the efforts of two small classes means having, hopefully, sufficient help on the day (and Stella is talking about twisting other WI arms to help too!). Should we manage to make any profit, the village parish church needs yet more funds to pay for the repairs to flooring, heating, steeple, stonework, etc. I always used to try to be at least one year ahead, if not two, with bookings for hall, suppliers, etc, but this time it wasn't possible - so, the hall at Shuttington (just off the old main road from Tamworth to Nottingham) is booked for Saturday June 4th, 2005. This time it was a case of choose a month, contact suppliers, confirm with hall! Our suppliers will be Larkholme Lace (Arachne Jacqui Southworth), Malcolm Thorpe and the Guild of Needlelaces. One of my students is an expert in plastic canvas work, so she will be doing a workshop in the morning, and Anne Weston (chairman of the Guild of Needlelaces) will do a needlelace workshop in the afternoon. I've got the basic text typed in for the letters to go to groups, etc, and need to dig out the scanner to get some lace pictures to illustrate the flyers/posters - they look a bit boring at the moment. Then on Sunday I'm going to measure up the hall, so that a table plan can be worked out (along with gaining the information needed to work out the maximum number of tickets we can sell). The next stage then is producing the tickets, get a map drawn and make sure I have the public transport details to hand. Then it will be circulating information to groups, magazines, local libraries, etc, and hoping that it all goes well on the day. Yes, it is six months away, but with deadlines for quarterly magazines to work to it is a case of getting the information to them quickly, and some of the local lace groups only meet a few times a year. At this stage it is an excuse for more chocolate... will enough people want to come to make it worthwhile? But I have been there before, and it all worked out last time! So, if I'm quiet for a few weeks, you'll know why. I'll still be reading, but after a day of typing at work sometimes it is nice to leave it to others to respond to queries! Should anyone plan to be in the English Midlands at the beginning of June next year, it would be lovely to see you at our new, hopefully improved, Tamworth and Newton Regis Lace Day! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is the list quiet
> . Everyone must be making a lot of lace! I was making lace this weekend, I was woking a sample of Bucks using Finca no.80. It gave a beautiful result, but was much too firm and scratchy for the purpose intended (a proposed edging for a christening gown). I've reverted to Egyptian Cotton 70/2 which is much softer. I'll use the Finca for a fan (one of these days!). BTW, has anyone got a nice pattern for said christening gown that I might borrow? I've looked in Vogue, Butterick, Simplicity, etc. etc. but not been 100% pleased with the patterns there. Thanks in advance Anita In Bromley UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Display, Not in a Museum
Greetings, Avital suggested writing about a lace in a museum. It brought to mind my visit to England for the Arachne 98 conference. Before the conference, I took a tour of Scotland. I kept watching for lace in the various places we visited, and finding very little. Near the end of the tour, we stopped in St Andrews at the Woolen Outlet. It is across the side street from the teeing-off end of the famous gold course. Upstairs over the outlet store was a tea shop. Mounted on the wall of this small tea shop was a large display of knitted lace patterns. There was on large square scarf, and many stitch sample squares. Of course, by the time I found this, I only had ten minutes to catch my tour bus so there was no time to study it. I took several pictures with my zoom camera and hoped they would be clear enough to look at later. I don't know if this tea shop and display are still there, but if you are in St Andrews, take a look and let us know. Alice in Oregon -- still trying to cat proof my house for the two new black cats, who seem to be growing bigger every day. Cat-snuggling time is slowing down my lacemaking. Pillow dumped only three times so far. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is the list quiet
I'm on some other 'fibre' lists too, and they've all been abnormally quiet lately. (Of course, just after I unsubscribed from others because I was going to be too busy to read them once term started again). However, all my husband's astronomy lists are just as busy as ever. Linda Walton, (unwilling to draw conclusions, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Being back
Hello Lacefriends. The Panther is back and so am I. For all who was woriieng about the cat, it isn't a real panther. It is our MAC OSX panther, sorry for confusing you but I am cat-fan. Jeri, if a have finished my book-design and my Christmas-card and answering my mails I will tell the list about a northern country and the lacemaking there but first, see above. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is the list quiet
. Everyone must be making a lot of lace! Avital, I think they are making goodies for Christmas. I remember last year about the same time the list was quiet as well. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?
From the picture, it looks like embroidery to me - I can't see any detached buttonhole stitch.. I guess you have to see it in person. It is a beautiful piece though. On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 10:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day I saw a textile at the MMA which looks just like needlelace, being made of detached buttonhole stitch, but dates from the Yuan dynasty(1279-1368). I know that looping stiches have been made in the past. I have even seen some looped net bags in the American Southwest, but this piece so resembles Italian Needlelace, especially in its diamond shaped geometrical patterns that it is really quite stunning. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] clarification of previous
For some reason, the web address of the Chinese needlelace has appeared twice in this e-mail. Please disregard the repeat. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?
Since the list is quiet, perhaps I could introduce a subject that has me intriqued. The other day I saw a textile at the MMA which looks just like needlelace, being made of detached buttonhole stitch, but dates from the Yuan dynasty(1279-1368). I know that looping stiches have been made in the past. I have even seen some looped net bags in the American Southwest, but this piece so resembles Italian Needlelace, especially in its diamond shaped geometrical patterns that it is really quite stunning. To see the piece go to _http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=20&viewmode=0&item=1987.277_ (http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=20&viewmode=0&item=1987.277) You can enlarge with a zoom, which helps. I had earlier seen on the wall at the Cooper-Hewitt in the non-public areas, a huge enlarged poster of what appeared to be similar Chinese Needlelace depicting a figure. Recently I asked about it and was told that it was actually a small patch on a spectacular Chinese robe, dating, I believe to about the same period. In both cases the needlelace is set against a gold leaf background for ultimate glow effect. Co-incidence? Clue to origin? Thoughts anyone? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is the list quiet
In a message dated 11/16/04 2:23:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have found the list very quiet for days now - only 1 or 2 messages per > day. Has it been quiet or am I having computer problems? > > Eirwen Woodroffe > Liffey Tasmania > Dear Lacemakers, Is it politically correct to inquire why more people do not write lace information to Arachne? Through the years, it has seemed to me that about 20 people keep the list active. Yet, when I go to lace events, I meet many many people who say they are on Arachne. How about some reports from around the world about your favorite lace class experience, your favorite lace book, your favorite lace-in-a-museum memory? It would be so nice to hear from the many who are "behind the computer screen". Every group profits from new input. Please let us hear from you. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace & Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is the list quiet
Yes, the list is quiet. Your message is the third today, there were none yesterday, and only 5 the day before. Everyone must be making a lot of lace! Avital > > Dear All, > > I have found the list very quiet for days now - only 1 or 2 messages per > day. Has it been quiet or am I having computer problems? > > Eirwen Woodroffe > Liffey Tasmania > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
