[lace] need help

2005-12-30 Thread sof
Hello everybody,

I need some help : I look for 2 photos (free publishing) to illustrate a 
text I writted for a french lace organisation bulletin.

I look for a picture of Limerick lace and one of Coggeshall lace.

Thank you to help me

Happy new year

Sof in France with snow and sometime sun!!

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[lace] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Pene Piip
Has anyone had success in printing the patterns from the UK Lace Guild 
Advent Calender?


If you have, what browser are you using?
I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and I'm just getting chicken scratchings. The 
photo  diagrams are not very clear but the instructions are illegible.


I've sent an email to Jean Leader, but have a feeling that they are away 
from home for a little while.


I would like to say Head Vana Aastat! to everyone until Sunday morning, 
then I wish everyone Head Uut Aastat!. Here in Estonia you wish friends  
family members a good end to the Old Year (Vana Aastat)  then from 
January 1st, you wish everyone a Happy New Year.



Penelope Piip
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[lace] Point de F

2005-12-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
Greetings Everyone!

I hope your Holidays have been filled with the things and people you love! 
I was able to start a new project this week, and am having a wonderful time
with it.  It is a Binche piece from Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet's Syllabus
Binche III, and she describes it as an example of Point de Fée lace. 
I've been talking with some of my local lacemaking friends, and so far, we
have been unable to resolve the puzzle of what this term means in
lacemaking.  We have some ideas about the literal translation, but that
does not, of course, take into account the nuances of the language and give
us the accurate meaning.

When I mentioned it to Tamara, she remembered that the list had chewed on
it a while back, but did not remember that we had come up with an answer. 
Does anyone have a good understanding of this term?

Thanks for your help!

Clay

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RE: [lace] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Pene -

Sorry to hear you've got printing problems!  I use Internet Explorer with
Mozilla and have no problems.  In fact, the printed copy of the pricking
was exactly the size that Jean said it should be.

Clay

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 [Original Message]
 From: Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lace@arachne.com; lace-chat@arachne.com
 Date: 12/30/2005 12:53:19 PM
 Subject: [lace] Printing problem

 Has anyone had success in printing the patterns from the UK Lace Guild 
 Advent Calender?

 If you have, what browser are you using?
 I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and I'm just getting chicken scratchings. The 
 photo  diagrams are not very clear but the instructions are illegible.

 I've sent an email to Jean Leader, but have a feeling that they are away 
 from home for a little while.

 I would like to say Head Vana Aastat! to everyone until Sunday morning, 
 then I wish everyone Head Uut Aastat!. Here in Estonia you wish friends
 
 family members a good end to the Old Year (Vana Aastat)  then from 
 January 1st, you wish everyone a Happy New Year.


 Penelope Piip
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Re: [lace] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread sof
Hello Pene,

For me all is ok : I print the french versions from Opera.

Sof from France




Pene Piip a écrit :

 Has anyone had success in printing the patterns from the UK Lace Guild 
 Advent Calender?

 If you have, what browser are you using?
 I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and I'm just getting chicken scratchings. 
 The photo  diagrams are not very clear but the instructions are 
 illegible.

 I've sent an email to Jean Leader, but have a feeling that they are 
 away from home for a little while.

 I would like to say Head Vana Aastat! to everyone until Sunday 
 morning, then I wish everyone Head Uut Aastat!. Here in Estonia you 
 wish friends  family members a good end to the Old Year (Vana 
 Aastat)  then from January 1st, you wish everyone a Happy New Year.


 Penelope Piip
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 City of Tartu, Estonia

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RE: [lace] Wreath Boxes - Again!

2005-12-30 Thread Sue
Hi Barbara and all spiders,
I am always reading about wreath boxes although I can imagine what they
are by the various descriptions I cannot say that I have ever seen one, can
anyone tell me whether such a creature exists in the UK?

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
where the rain has just started and is washing away all the horrible snow
that we have had for the last few days.

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To: Lace
Subject: [lace] Wreath Boxes - Again!


Today I found something at Michael's crafts store that might be of interest.
It is a huge square wreath box. It's made by Sterlite, and says it's 27-7/8
x 8-3/8, and takes a 24 wreath.

My 24 straw pillow fits inside with room to spare. It's high enough to take
three pillows stacked on top of each other (assuming no projects on them),
and the lip snaps on nicely. Pricey at $20, but with a 40% off coupon, not a
bad deal. The only real problem is where to store such a large container.
I'm working on solving that one!

Barbara Joyce

Snoqualmie, WA
USA

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[lace] John Brooker

2005-12-30 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Dear all  --  Does anybody know the current whereabouts of the great 
British fanmaker of two or three decades ago, John Brooker?  Thank 
you! --  Aurelia


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Re: [lace] John Brooker

2005-12-30 Thread Jenny Barron
Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear all -- Does anybody know the 
current whereabouts of the great 
British fanmaker of two or three decades ago, John Brooker? Thank 
you! -- Aurelia

Hi Aurelia, I googled and came up with his homepage
  http://www.fanmaker.co.uk/
  jenny barron
  Scotland

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[lace] tatting query

2005-12-30 Thread Alice Howell
There is a Tatted Bedspread on eBay.  I recognize the
rings and picots of normal tatting, but each section
has a wide row of stitches that I don't recognize.  It
this all tatted?  Or has there been a row of crochet
added around each section?

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778

Item 8246107778 if the URL doesn't work for you.

Thanks.
Alice in Oregon -- 2 of rain yesterday, and more
coming.   Wish I could send it to Texas/Oklahoma where
the fires are.  BIL lost his home to the fires.

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Re: [lace] Point de FXe

2005-12-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
Thank you very much for this information, Ilske!!

That is a plausible explanation, and I will print out your note, especially
as it is Anne-Marie's, (since her use of the term prompted my question).

Clay

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 [Original Message]
 From: Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: 12/30/2005 11:26:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Point de FXe

 Hello Clay,
 As far as I know from Anne-Marie, this sort of Binche was invented at 
 the beginning of 19th cent. and because of it delicacy it was given 
 this name.  You know in that time everywhere in Europe people tried to 
 make the handmade lace again interesting for everybody. Mostly the 
 created bobbin laces which are work quickly and a few ones which are 
 not only new but stil special.
 I am sorry I don't know the belge name but in German it is also called 
 Feen-Spitze fairy-lace.
 Greetings

 Ilske

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Re: [lace] Wreath Boxes - Again!

2005-12-30 Thread bevw
If they are to be had, they would be found with either the Christmas
'stuff' in stores, or the dept. that offers plastic tote boxes. I
understand the artificial wreath isn't necessarily an item that would
be brought out from year to year for the Christmas season, such as to
decorate a door, in the UK?
I make a wreath from fresh greenery every year, but there are handsome
artifical wreaths, to purchase, and many ways to craft a wreath, such
that a person would want to keep it to re-use.
With some difficulty I managed to drop by the Canadian Tire store
where I'd seen the wr/boxes advertised, alas, none there, if there had
been any in the first place. One only tall 'roll holder' for the
Christmas wrap, and any number of 3-drawered see-through 'ornament
storage' tiers (no dividers). The last could be useful for lace
storage, but not as a furnishing that one would want to get at
everyday (i.e. wasn't very sturdy).


 I am always reading about wreath boxes although I can imagine what they
 are by the various descriptions I cannot say that I have ever seen one, can
 anyone tell me whether such a creature exists in the UK?


--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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Re: [lace] tatting query, Point de Fée

2005-12-30 Thread Susan Lambiris
Alice wrote:

There is a Tatted Bedspread on eBay.  I recognize the
rings and picots of normal tatting, but each section
has a wide row of stitches that I don't recognize.  It
this all tatted?  Or has there been a row of crochet
added around each section?

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778

Item 8246107778 if the URL doesn't work for you.

Fascinating piece of work. The wide rows begin with a regular tatted 
chain with a cluster of picots (I think 15) in the center section. I 
can't tell even in the most enlarged photo whether the next round is 
crocheted into the picots (using single crochet or maybe even slip 
stitch--my crocheting terminology is rusty) or if it's another round 
of tatting that is linking into the picots below. In any case it's the 
most effective way of broadening a chain I've seen in tatting! Thank 
you for bringing this to my attention!!

Also, Clay wrote:
Greetings Everyone!

...a Binche piece from Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet's Syllabus
Binche III, and she describes it as an example of Point de Fée lace. 
I've been talking with some of my local lacemaking friends, and so far, we
have been unable to resolve the puzzle of what this term means in
lacemaking.  We have some ideas about the literal translation, but that
does not, of course, take into account the nuances of the language and give
us the accurate meaning.
and Ilske answered:
 As far as I know from Anne-Marie, this sort of Binche was invented at 
 the beginning of 19th cent. and because of it delicacy it was given 
 this name.

I think it was called Point de Fée because it seemed only fairies could 
work such fine thread in such delicate and complex patterns. Something like 
Beatrix Potter's Tailor of Gloucester, whose embroideries and buttonholes 
looked like they were made by mice...

I didn't realize Point de Fée dated to the beginning of the 19th century--
I believed there was a break in the making of Binche-style lace for most 
of the 1800s and Point de Fée was revived in the late 1800s-early 1900s 
as a high-quality, localized specialty. On the other hand, someone must 
have preserved the working techniques for a revival of that quality to be 
possible--I can't see reinventing Binche from scratch!

Happy New Year to all,
Sue.

Susan Lambiris
Raleigh, NC
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RE: [lace] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Jean Leader
We're off tomorrow to visit our daughter and family (were going to go 
today but thought it better to avoid the snow). We've sent pdf files 
of the patterns to Pene - if anyone else has problems printing let us 
know and we can send them to you too.

Jean and David in Glasgow where the snow is melting

PS Hope you've all sent in your competition entries

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[lace] tatting query

2005-12-30 Thread Valda Kemp
Looks to me to be all tatted.

Valda, in foggy Nova Scotia, Canada
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 There is a Tatted Bedspread on eBay.  I recognize the
 rings and picots of normal tatting, but each section
 has a wide row of stitches that I don't recognize.  It
 this all tatted?  Or has there been a row of crochet
 added around each section?


http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778

 Item 8246107778 if the URL doesn't work for you.

 Thanks.
 Alice in Oregon -- 2 of rain yesterday, and more
 coming.   Wish I could send it to Texas/Oklahoma where
 the fires are.  BIL lost his home to the fires.

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FW: [lace] tatting query

2005-12-30 Thread Patricia Dowden
There is a Tatted Bedspread on eBay.  I recognize the 
rings and picots of normal tatting, but each section 
has a wide row of stitches that I don't recognize.  It 
this all tatted?  Or has there been a row of crochet 
added around each section? 

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-GENUINE-HANDMADE-TATTING-lace-white-bedspread_W0QQitemZ8246107778
   

Item 8246107778 if the URL doesn't work for you. 

Thanks. 
Alice in Oregon 



=== 

Yes it is tatting mixed with crochet.  The specific technique is a row of 
tatting completely covered in picots.  Then the picot loops are crocheted 
together.  Very appropriate for a bedspread, which is so large, as the 
techniques adds some presence to the pattern.  Personally I can't imagine 
making a gazillion motifs!

Patty 

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[lace] Lace bobbins on antiques roadshow

2005-12-30 Thread Karen
The children's version of Antiques Roadshow had some lovely lace bobbins on
on Wednesday this week.  Unfortunately, the bone ones were described as
being made of ivory by the expert on the show!  I did email and point this
out, including a couple of references, and have had a reply that they will
share the information with the expert concerned.

Having just looked though, they are still described as made of ivory on the
website at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/antiques/antiquesroadshow/priceguide/objects/289.shtml
I hadn't realised they were on there when I sent my first email.
I am however looking forward to the next series (probably February) when
there should be some accurate lace information on the programme.  If I
remember rightly from my visit to the Honiton Lace Museum in Sept,  Pat
Perryman will be on Antiques Roadshow filmed somewhere not too far from
Honiton, with items from the Honiton Lace Museum collection.

Karen
In Coventry
Who was happy to receive lace making bobbins for Christmas.  

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Re: [lace] Cardboard wreath boxes

2005-12-30 Thread CLIVE Rice
They have boxes that are called OnePak shipping and are available year round 
at the US Postal Service; cost varies according to size.  Might be good if 
you were shipping a pillow to Montreal.  Jane, your local P.O. might have 
something that they were doing as a community service.  Nothing like a 
freebie here or on the web site that I could find...


Happy Lacemaking,
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

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From: Jane Viking Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [lace] Cardboard wreath boxes



my Post Office has a sign up that says Free Wreath
Boxes.  These are for mailing of course but if you ever need to mail a 
lace

pillow they might be just the thing.  I have no idea about size.  I think
the PO's URL is www.usps.com  if you want to see if they make mention 
there.

I gather they are only available around the holidays but I'm not sure.



Jane in Vermont, USA where it's been unseasonably warm lately!   (that's
over freezing)
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RE: [lace] wreath boxes

2005-12-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
I've come across other styles of wreath storage which would be good for
protecting lace pillows, and are available on-line.

http://tinyurl.com/825os  
-  This is an octagonal box with lid that looks to be corregated material
but is described as stronger than cardboard.   Measures 24, but would
probably only accomodate a 20 pillow.  6+ high.   On sale for $7.49 each
 
http://tinyurl.com/9gje9 
-   This is for a vinyl soft case which zips up and is clear so you can see
exactly what's inside.  It's round, and would accomodate a 24 pillow, I
think.  It has handles which would make it fairly easy to carry about, but
whether it would accomodate a project pillow is questionable.

http://tinyurl.com/925kv  
-  This is another version of a soft case, but is also available in a 30
size.  Also has handles.

I don't have any of these items, but when I saw them recently in catalogs I
received, it struck me that they might be useful.  The last two would
definitely be good for storing pillows that you're not using on door
hangers, out of sight!!  And another advantage over the hard plastic boxes
is that you can leave the zipper open a bit to allow the pillow to breathe!

Clay

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[lace] Oya/Bibela in Piecework

2005-12-30 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  The January/February issue of Piecework arrived today!!  Lots of
neat stuff in it but of most interest to us is an article on Oya called A
Meter Square: Headscarves Trimmed with Needle Lace.  The article is
interesting and the photos are fabulous.  One of a pile of scarves edged
with the little flowers and leaves and another showing at least 60 pieces of
cardboard wrapped with yards of the edging in all sorts of colors and
combinations!!  And there is a project by Gretchen Allgeier (who taught me
NL in Ithaca, New York a few years ago).  The project uses 80 tatting cotton
and is of little fan shaped flowers on a triangle.

They have three interesting projects on the web too at:
  www.interweave.com   I think you just need to click on Piecwork.
The projects are a felt hat (a Kalpak, the traditional hat of Kyrgyzstan), a
crocheted Egyptian outfit for a Barbie doll and an Irish Stitch (Bargello)
purse.

The magazine also has a long article on caring for heirloom textiles with
resources and further reading.  Of course we do talk about that
a lot already!  And thank you Jeri for keeping us aware and informed on the
topic!!

Hope that doesn't spoil anybody's fun.  I thought some of you would like to
know this is an issue to keep an eye out for!

Jane in Vermont, USA thinking this project would be a good way to try a
little Oya.  I have lots of colors of 80 tatting cotton and winter has a
long way to go!
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RE: [lace] BRUSSELS POINT DE GAZE LACE PANEL -- eye candy

2005-12-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have to admit, I was puzzled by the description of this piece.  For
starters, the waist measurement seemed completely out of line with the
contemporary view of acceptable female proportions!  And that strange
patchwork on the end...  what is that all about?  Like Laurie, I also
wonder what this piece was originally designed to be.  Still, as a piece of
lace, it is lovely (but vastly overpriced, IMO, due to the uncertain
purpose...)

Clay

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 [Original Message]
 From: Laurie Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Lace@arachne.com
 Date: 12/30/2005 8:49:35 PM
 Subject: [lace] BRUSSELS POINT DE GAZE LACE PANEL -- eye candy

 This piece has been posted on Ebay before - no takers. Maria is trying to
ride
 the momentum from the $6600 'Point de Gaze' (spelling varies) bridal veil
that
 sold on October 18th. The present piece is beautifully worked, and is
 obviously from a first-rate shop, as shown by the solid multi-layer petal
 roses.  However it's extremely difficult to tell what this piece started
out
 as, and it has some additions that are hard to explain.  In buying a piece
 like this, condition is everything for a collector.  Chances are hight it
will
 probably be purchased by some courtier who will cut it up to fit
somebody's
 wedding dress.

 There's an exceptional piece people should watch, #7377399970.  6 meters
of
 Point de Gaze edging with a design well above average.
 And, a very good fan, 8367650565.


 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:10:55 -0800 (PST)
 From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [lace] extreme eye candy

 While I normally put eBay items on Chat, this piece is
 definitely high quality Lace -- yours for only
 $3995.00.  (Sigh)



http://cgi.ebay.com/EXQUISITE-19THC-BRUSSELS-POINT-DE-GAZE-LACE-PANEL_W0QQit
e
 mZ7377739271

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[lace] Re: Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Dec 30, 2005, at 8:52, Pene Piip wrote:

Has anyone had success in printing the patterns from the UK Lace Guild 
Advent Calender?


If you have, what browser are you using?
I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and I'm just getting chicken scratchings.


No trouble printing out the patterns either with Firefox or plain 
Mozilla. In both instances the pricking pinted out smaller than 
required, but that's no problem, as I can enlarge it on the copier. It 
could, perhaps, be a printer problem? My laser printer prints true 
blue every time but the ink-jet (copier/printer) is temperamental.


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Noelene Bill Lafferty
Talking of printer problems - I recently bought the
HP PSC 1410 printer/scanner/copier, and found if
I scanned prickings at a high quality then moved them
into Paint Shop Pro for resizing (for different thread),
then it was as if the original scan was an enormous sheet
of paper, and if I resized back to A4, I lost all the
quality and ended up with a blurry mess.

HP email support have acknowledged my problem (and
keep promising me they're working on how to overcome
it), but in the meantime, I've solved it myself.   If I open
up Paint Shop Pro, and do the scan from there (instead of
direct from the HP software) it works fine.

Just thought this might be of use to anyone who owns the
PSC 1410

Noelene in Cooma
Where it is over 35deg (c), and 2% humidity.  Same
conditions as the 2003 bushfires.
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[lace-chat] Expressions for OED

2005-12-30 Thread Jean Nathan

Janice wrote:

 pop one's clogs before 1977 (assumes pop means to pawn)

 I know pop was used for pawning things but I always thought this 
expression meant that the person had died.


Yes, it does, but what the OED is trying to do is to find out where and when 
these expressions actually started. 'Pop' means 'to pawn' - I believe it had 
the same meaning in pop goes the weasel which refers to pawning either a 
dometic or tailor's flat iron or a weasel and stoat, rhyming slang for 
coat (just two suggestions as to what a weasel is).


Often when things were 'popped' (ie handed in at the pawnbroker for money 
with the intention of later retrieving it when you had enough money to pay 
the pawnbroker what you'd borrowed plus interest) the person knew he/she 
could never afford to retrieve the item, or knew they would have no more use 
for it, so wouldn't need to find the money to retrieve it. Clogs were 
footwear with studded soles worn by both men and women in parts of the north 
of England, and it's thought people pawned the clogs when they knew they 
were going to die and would have no further use for them - they'd get a 
better price by pawning than by selling.


But, the expression doesn't seem to be known before the 1970s, when both the 
wearing of clogs and pawning items wasn't very common.


Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Pene Piip
Has anyone had success in printing the patterns from the UK Lace Guild 
Advent Calender?


If you have, what browser are you using?
I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and I'm just getting chicken scratchings. The 
photo  diagrams are not very clear but the instructions are illegible.


I've sent an email to Jean Leader, but have a feeling that they are away 
from home for a little while.


I would like to say Head Vana Aastat! to everyone until Sunday morning, 
then I wish everyone Head Uut Aastat!. Here in Estonia you wish friends  
family members a good end to the Old Year (Vana Aastat)  then from 
January 1st, you wish everyone a Happy New Year.



Penelope Piip
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[lace-chat] RE: [lace] Printing problem

2005-12-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Pene -

Sorry to hear you've got printing problems!  I use Internet Explorer with
Mozilla and have no problems.  In fact, the printed copy of the pricking
was exactly the size that Jean said it should be.

Clay

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 [Original Message]
 From: Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lace@arachne.com; lace-chat@arachne.com
 Date: 12/30/2005 12:53:19 PM
 Subject: [lace] Printing problem

 Has anyone had success in printing the patterns from the UK Lace Guild 
 Advent Calender?

 If you have, what browser are you using?
 I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and I'm just getting chicken scratchings. The 
 photo  diagrams are not very clear but the instructions are illegible.

 I've sent an email to Jean Leader, but have a feeling that they are away 
 from home for a little while.

 I would like to say Head Vana Aastat! to everyone until Sunday morning, 
 then I wish everyone Head Uut Aastat!. Here in Estonia you wish friends
 
 family members a good end to the Old Year (Vana Aastat)  then from 
 January 1st, you wish everyone a Happy New Year.


 Penelope Piip
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 City of Tartu, Estonia

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