[lace] Dahlia Dentelle de Venise
HI Ilske Is the flower you meant on the this page http://www.dahlie.net/dyn/einzel.php?lang=en A white dahlia with many spiky very narrow petals. Regard Jenny DeAngelis Spain. Hello Everybody, to this theme I too have something. We have a big parc in the western part of HH named Dahliengarten - dahlia-garden. What means the huge parc is full of dahlias, every color every shape. And one day years ago I saw under a white very fine and with pointed ends written Hirschgeweih Dahlia - Dentelle de Venise -antlers dahlia -lave of Vencia. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Jigsaws and honey
In a private post from Malvary (my sister) she made the comment Your question about Queen Ann Lace certainly generated a lot of messages but didn't really answer your question Yes, I noticed that! What I was more interested in is there any way to work out when plant names first became lace somethings, ie before that lace wasn't a part of the public consciousness. And although I was very interested in finding out that it may indeed be the Queen Anne in the book I'm reading, there must be quite a jump from her courtiers saying Oooh that plant looks just like our Majesty's lace, and country people calling it Q A's lace. So, are there for example, any ancient herbals (if that is the correct name for the documents covering the use of plants) which pre date the development of lace so they referred to plant x as one thing, whereas later ones (at some point in the 1500s presumably) started calling the same plant as lace something, then that could be an interesting pointer for when a wider awareness of lace left the courts and lacemakers and became part of general acceptance. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Jigsaws and honey??? should be lace flowers
The observant among you may have wondered why the subject of jigsaws and honey appeared. It was because I picked up the lace flowers element from a three part post from Malvary, but didn't change the subject line. The jisaws bit was a comment about an on-line puzzle site and the honey bit was a question about how thin you cut orange peel to preserve it in and flavour honey. The answer for anyone interested, is as close to the surface as possible, ie only the oily orange bit. No pith. Put it in a jar, cover it with liquid honey (or warmed solid honey) and leave. After a couple of months the honey will be orangey and the peel very sweet and soft. Lovely in a stir fry. It keeps for years and if the honey solidifies, just warm it gently in the microwave or in hot water. I tend to spoon the honey out from under the peel (which 'floats') to keep the flavour as long as possible. The lace bit was covered in my previous post so please excuse me! Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New 20 pound note and pinmaking
Brenda wrote: Has anyone else looked at the back of the new UK 20 pound notes? There's a portrait of Adam Smith 1723-1790 and the words The division of labour in pin manufacturing: (and the great increase in quantity of work that results) plus a drawing of the various stages of pin manufacture in the 18th century. Brenda that bit of information came in very useful at Poole Bobbin Lace Day today. Christine Prentis (prefers to be called Chris) gave the illustated talk on the silver and gold metal lace she made for the new Shakespeare Globe Theatre and the way the costume are made exactly as they were in Shakespeare's time ie they were pinned together on the actor using a great number of pins. She mentioned in passing that Adam Smith had written a treatise on the division of pin manufacturing. I was able to add the information about the 20 pound note. I was asked if I was going to pass it round along with the photos she was showing us! She's going to include that in her future talks. I did tell her it was Brenda who brought it to the attention of Arachne. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK (who spent a small fortune even though she didn't need anything) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Q.A. Lace continued (OT)
In a message dated 6/1/2007 9:22:18 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whilst I have heard of hemlock, I don't know the plant. That's what Socrates said, according to Steve Martin, if you ever saw that skit he did on the Death of Socrates. He was sitting chatting with his morose friends, when someone brought in a chalice and he drank it down, and kept talking. Suddenly he said, I feel woozy! and started lying back on the couch. His friend said, Of course, you just drank hemlock! He said, What's hemlock? His friend said, It's poison. Socrates Martin said, Oh great. Now you tell me. All these years, it's been 'Socrates, what's the meaning of life? Socrates, what is truth?' Never once did anyone say, 'Socrates, hemlock is poison! :)) Best regards from Ricki in sunny suddenly summery Utah, where the grass is growing and drying out and I'd better get the rest of the garden in but FAST. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Jigsaws and.../QA lace origin
In one of the replies, someone pointed out the _Victorian-era_ as the likely source of naming 'lace somethings' Speaking of that, the 'lacemaker' made an appearance in a humourous context ( Lewis Carroll's beaver making lace), and seque-ing to the current day, there is a reference to a university position 'something-or-other Lacemaker' which was delightful, except I can't find the exact quote - in a Terry Pratchett world. (that's my jigsaw ergo puzzle content, remotely lace ~) On 6/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a private post from Malvary (my sister) she made the comment Your question about Queen Ann Lace certainly generated a lot of messages but didn't really answer your question Yes, I noticed that! What I was more interested in is there any way to work out when plant names first became lace somethings, ie before that lace bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Jigsaws and honey
In a message dated 6/2/2007 8:15:09 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I noticed that! What I was more interested in is there any way to work out when plant names first became lace somethings, ie before that lace wasn't a part of the public consciousness. And although I was very interested in finding out that it may indeed be the Queen Anne in the book I'm reading, there must be quite a jump from her courtiers saying Oooh that plant looks just like our Majesty's lace, and country people calling it Q A's lace. There seem to be several sources for the name Queen Anne's Lace -- from the Internet: Origin History Also known as bird's nest, and wild carrot, Queen Anne's Lace is named for St. Anne, patron saint of lacemakers in England. Sentiment Symbolism Like lace, every bloom has a different pattern. The root of Queen Anne's Lace stimulates pigment production; North African natives chewed it to protect themselves from the sun. * * * Queen Anne's Lace has leaves that spread out lace-like from its stems. Also note the difference in the smell of the crushed leaves, medicinal for yarrow and carrot-like for Queen Anne's Lace, which not surprisingly is also called wild carrot. Queen Anne's Lace is the wild version of our cultivated carrot, and its root can be eaten. Also edible are the seeds, which were used by colonists as spices. It was the colonists, in fact, who brought the plant to America for these uses. Two possible origins of this plant's name exist. One story says that it was named for Queen Anne, wife of James I, who was known to wear the flower in her hair (a local connection: she was the mother of the Prince Edgar after which Edgartown was named). The other story holds that this flower was named for St. Anne, mother of the Virgin Mary, who was the patron saint of lacemakers. Sometimes Queen Anne's Lace has a single purple floret in the center, which serves as a reminder of the injury Queen Anne suffered when she was pricked while making lace. * * * I agree it would be interesting to know how the plant actually got its name! Regards, Ricki in Utah ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Queen Anne's Lace (Jigsaws and honey)
On Jun 2, 2007, at 10:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacquie) wrote: Your question about Queen Ann Lace certainly generated a lot of messages but didn't really answer your question Yes, I noticed that! What I was more interested in is there any way to work out when plant names first became lace somethings, ie before that lace wasn't a part of the public consciousness. I noticed it too :) I thought your original idea was brilliant but, as the various bits of (often almost hidden) info trickled in, I realised it was, probably, a blind alley, as far as dating lace went. One message suggested that the plant itself was still rare in James' Anne's time (ie, there might not have been a reason to *re-name* it). Another said that it was likely to have been the Sentimental Victorians who had named it thus (by which time, hand-made lace was already being edged out by the machine-made). So, are there for example, any ancient herbals (if that is the correct name for the documents covering the use of plants) which pre date the development of lace so they referred to plant x as one thing, whereas later ones (at some point in the 1500s presumably) started calling the same plant as lace something, then that could be an interesting pointer for when a wider awareness of lace left the courts and lacemakers and became part of general acceptance. I think the research on that would be 3-pronged, actually: 1) make a list of plants which have lace in their names and the areas of their habitat. 2) search the dictionaries for when the terms began to be used (Oxford is pretty good at that, but my copy of it is still missing tons of words/phrases, even though it has to be read with a magnifying glass. Now missing also g) 3) look at the old (probably Middle Ages; there wouldn't have been all that many before the invention of the printing press. OTOH, the manuscripts, held in monasteries and in the royal libraries, might have been preserved with more care) herbals. Though those were, usually, limited to medicinal plants, so some plants might not appear in them... OTOH, many plants that we now think of as weeds *had* been used for medicinal purposes, so, who knows what could be found there... It's a fascinating possibility. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Paypal
Has anyone had trouble getting into their Paypal accou t recently. They're reorganizing Europen payments, but apparently not until 2nd July. Last night Paypal wouldn't accept my password so I had to go through the security checks to set a new one. I've emailed to see if they can explain why and to check that my account hasn't been got at. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Paypal
Didn't have any problems last week Jean. Helen. Has anyone had trouble getting into their Paypal accou t recently. They're reorganizing Europen payments, but apparently not until 2nd July. Last night Paypal wouldn't accept my password so I had to go through the security checks to set a new one. I've emailed to see if they can explain why and to check that my account hasn't been got at. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Life after Snow-white
A clever cutie :) From: D.C. I had an accident on the way to work this morning - ran up the bum of the car in front of me at the lights cause I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, the guy I hit got out of his car .. And he was a dwarf He said I'm not happy I said Well, which one are you then? -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
