Re: [lace] Hello from Eatonville
Devon, Thanks for posting the link! We have just opened up the registration for both May and June. We do plan to continue offering classes like this after the pandemic has passed, but will adjust the frequency to meet needs. To date we have gotten 35 new bobbin lacemakers up and running, and have another 20 signed up to learn between now and April. We are also running a "Just Beyond the Basics" workshop with essential skills and patterns for people just out of the introductory class. I should also add that we have *1 private SCHOLARSHIP* available each month for this class. The details can be found on the same page with the class information: https://thelacemuseum.org/workshops.html Kim On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 1:51 PM Devon Thein wrote: > My stock answer to the question of how to learn lace is now "take an online > beginner class from the Lace Museum." Karen Thompson teaches these. It is a > small class, maybe only 5 people. There is a helper and a tech person on > the zoom at the same time to help even the most timid with any technical > questions. Even when you locate a group there may not be a teacher in that > group. Now everyone can have a class in their living room. > https://www.thelacemuseum.org/workshops.html is the link. > Devon > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Hello from Eatonville
My stock answer to the question of how to learn lace is now "take an online beginner class from the Lace Museum." Karen Thompson teaches these. It is a small class, maybe only 5 people. There is a helper and a tech person on the zoom at the same time to help even the most timid with any technical questions. Even when you locate a group there may not be a teacher in that group. Now everyone can have a class in their living room. https://www.thelacemuseum.org/workshops.html is the link. Devon > > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Hello
Has anyone mentioned the LaceIOLI ning site, _http://laceioli.ning.com/_ (http://laceioli.ning.com/) There are beginners tutorials and you can get a lot of feed back on your work. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hello Michelle Welcome to the world of bobbin lace. And the world it is, there are subscibers on this list from all around the world, ready to give advice and help. As to help: have you looked at this site? http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/ It is very good for beginners, from very basics, to patterns and to designing your own. Agned Boddington - in very cold (but sunny for once) Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Thank you for the welcome! I am in the denver area. So I will check out the resources mentioned. Thank you. I have checked out the http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/, site. It is very helpful but many of the beginner patterns have broken links. I love the gifs that sure how the stitchs. Michelle On Jan 22, 2013 3:55 AM, Agnes Boddington ag...@weatherwax.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hello Michelle Welcome to the world of bobbin lace. And the world it is, there are subscibers on this list from all around the world, ready to give advice and help. As to help: have you looked at this site? http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/**lace/ http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/ It is very good for beginners, from very basics, to patterns and to designing your own. Agned Boddington - in very cold (but sunny for once) Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I went ahead checked it again and it works. Maybe I hit it during an off time. That makes me happy! I want to try out the samples. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Agnes Boddington ag...@weatherwax.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hello Michelle I just had a look at the site, and all appears to be working ok. Maybe needs a bit of time to load each page? Agnes - Original Message - From: Michelle Norton tirjas...@gmail.com To: Lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello Thank you for the welcome! I am in the denver area. So I will check out the resources mentioned. Thank you. I have checked out the http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/**lace/http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/, site. It is very helpful but many of the beginner patterns have broken links. I love the gifs that sure how the stitchs. Michelle On Jan 22, 2013 3:55 AM, Agnes Boddington ag...@weatherwax.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hello Michelle Welcome to the world of bobbin lace. And the world it is, there are subscibers on this list from all around the world, ready to give advice and help. As to help: have you looked at this site? http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/**lace/ http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/**lace/http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/ It is very good for beginners, from very basics, to patterns and to designing your own. Agned Boddington - in very cold (but sunny for once) Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**lacemaker/sets/http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Michelle Writer / Web Designer http://michellejnorton.com http://denverfictionwriters.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Michelle, Welcome to our world! I hope you will find that you enjoy making lace. I am rather surprised to hear that doing hand work can ease chronic pain. That's goood to know!Usually I only hear about the pain caused by all of our repetative work. I hope that as you begin to work on your lace you will let all of us know how you get on and if you have any problems. I am guessing from your email address that you live in the Denver area. I think there are other lace makers in that area if you would like to try to make connections. Liz Redford Raleigh, NC, USA Michelle Norton tirjas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! My name is Michelle. I'm a writer and web designer who came in to the world of fiber arts as way to deal with chronic pain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Hello
Daphne, Yes, but I trashed it before opening it. I also got another one that had lace in it, but the sentence that I could see on the screen was gibberish. Think someone has been hacked again! Sallie in Wyoming Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Daphne Martin ladylace...@msn.com wrote: Hello Everyone I have sent the message I now recieved this morning from someone pretending to be a lacemaker on the list. Have anyone else recieved it too? Daphne Sunny Norfolk UK Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:50:05 + From: laceviolins...@comcast.net To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Hello You've no idea how cool is this http://nffriversidecounty.com/inf.php?NewYear Enjoy! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
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Yes, Daphne, I too got this, but thrashed it immediatley. It does show the importance of signing your messages with your name (and where you live), so we know from whom the message has come. Agnes Boddington Elloughton UK Hello Everyone I have sent the message I now recieved this morning from someone pretending to be a lacemaker on the list. Have anyone else recieved it too? Daphne Sunny Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
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On 14/12/2011 10:51, Agnes Boddington wrote: Yes, Daphne, I too got this, but thrashed it immediatley. Me, too. Although, as I use Thunderbird for my e-mail program, I looked at it first by View/Message Source, which confirmed my opinion that this was for the Junk folder. It does show the importance of signing your messages with your name (and where you live), so we know from whom the message has come. Agnes Boddington Elloughton UK I heartily agree! And will confirm the usual warning not to click on links in e-mails, (unless you're *very* confident about the source). It's much safer to go to your web browser and find the web page through that. This separates your computer from the address in the e-mail; if you go directly though the link in the e-mail, it can take you to a page which is a copy of the real web page and which is used as a disguise or mask by criminals. Best wishes to everyone for a safe Christmas and New Year from Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's clear and sunny, (unlike the more northern and western counties - poor things, getting gale-force snow - but jolly cold and breezy). Hello Everyone I have sent the message I now recieved this morning from someone pretending to be a lacemaker on the list. Have anyone else recieved it too? Daphne Sunny Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
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Yes, I got that too Daphne, and my computer said threat blocked so it went straight into the trash bin Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Hello . h--y SPAM or Not
Yes Daphne it is spam Under no circumstances should anyone open the link!! My OH is viewing the source as we speak find out where it really came from!! Sue in EY On 22 Jun 2010, at 11:12, Daphne Martin wrote: Hello I`m forwarding this onto the list because I believe this is Spam. Has anyone else received it?? Daphne Norfolk UK Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:38:48 -0700 From: quilter...@yahoo.com Subject: [lace] Hello . h--y To: crabmom2...@yahoo.com; lace@arachne.com; rdbar...@shaw.ca; baseballs...@yahoogroups.com; gkbe...@gmail.com; bonnykn...@yahoo.com; bottombet...@sbcglobal.net; pansyl...@yahoo.com; rwb...@aol.com; oowo...@ix.netcom.com; jackiechrist...@hotmail.com; mjtexqu...@yahoo.com ; al...@dellajane.com; cjcurr...@hotmail.com; scurry...@hotmail.com; dawn.den...@nielsen.com; z.dun...@worldnet.att.net; ken...@loganet.net; ken...@iowatelecom.net; elisabe...@dodo.com.au hey,how are you? I find a nice site recently, maybe you like it. one-stop trade services High-quality, competitive price Lowest shipping cost Fast door to door shipping I bought some from them, good qualities with good price. interested? visit: www.zol-us1.com I am sure you will love it. Yours !o--p - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Hello . h--y SPAM or Not
Daphne, I got that one today as well did not open it although it supposedly came from arachne I was suspicious it could be spam Sue M Harvey - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Hi Clay et al, I managed to click on the picture of the young lady with the pendant, and this brouight up a much enlarged image - maybe that would work for you too? I thought it was lovely - made my efforts at Nanduti/Teneriffe lace look a bit (a lot?) paltry! Take care all - may your threads never break. Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arachne.com lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders On first glimpse, I wasn't sure if I had arrived at the correct website the young woman, who was nearly loosing her pants, was entirely more significant in the picture than the lace she was wearing - which was difficult to see in the resolution presented on the site. I'd suggest selling the lace, not the girl. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Spiders I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Hi Carol - When I clicked on the picture of the girl, I got a terrible close-up which was so pixillated that I couldn't see anything. But Elizabeth (the original writer) encouraged me to try some of the other links, and on the shop link I was able to see them clearly. They are very pretty... and a fair price as well. I hope they do well with these! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Good, Clay Let's arachne.com know this good new? elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders Hi Elizabeth - I finally found some good pictures of the necklace and other items for sale on the shop link. They are very pretty, very simple, and are a fair price. Thank you for helping me find better pictures. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clay In te page there are 4 links to another two pages with photos of the necklace alone. Try them, please. elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders I'm not sure how to respond. The pictures I was able to get of a closer look were so pixellated that I could not see the quality of the work. The scale seems large (but the model may be small...), and the design seems over-simplified. But that does not mean that the effect is not lovely - it's just that I can't SEE it!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, Clay. And about the lace? elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders On first glimpse, I wasn't sure if I had arrived at the correct website the young woman, who was nearly loosing her pants, was entirely more significant in the picture than the lace she was wearing - which was difficult to see in the resolution presented on the site. I'd suggest selling the lace, not the girl. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Spiders I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders/nanduti necklace
Hello Elizabeth and everyone Thankyou for the link to see the necklace! The design is excellent. I hope they sell well. You could say hand-crafted necklace. On 10/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks -- Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
On first glimpse, I wasn't sure if I had arrived at the correct website the young woman, who was nearly loosing her pants, was entirely more significant in the picture than the lace she was wearing - which was difficult to see in the resolution presented on the site. I'd suggest selling the lace, not the girl. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Spiders I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello spiders
Ok, Clay. And about the lace? elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello spiders On first glimpse, I wasn't sure if I had arrived at the correct website the young woman, who was nearly loosing her pants, was entirely more significant in the picture than the lace she was wearing - which was difficult to see in the resolution presented on the site. I'd suggest selling the lace, not the girl. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Spiders I want you know Beauty of Nanduti Lace, a handicraft necklace (someone can tell me if is handicraft ou handcraft?) that had a medallion weaved in nanduti or tenerife lace, a rereading of the traditional technique, decorated with recycling glass tablets. Please, visit http://nhanduti.blogspot.com We love remarks elizabeth horta corrêa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 55 xx11 4412 1082 ehcskype / [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello - Find Lacemaers in Minnesota Other US States
In a message dated 1/26/07 8:31:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was introduced to bobbin lace making by my husband's aunt, who lives in England. She showed me how to do it, but unfortunately where I live don't seem to have much of a support base. I am still fascinated with bobbin lace making though, so have really been enjoying the posts to this list as well as the video links...thanks so much. It is amazing how much work bobbin lace making involves. Dear Kathi, Look at: www.minnlacesociety.org www.internationaloldlacers.org (Large American Lace Guild, which has 28 members who live in Minnesota). You should be able to find lacemakers demonstrating at state and local fairs, street fairs, historic house museums. You may be able to get references from owners at independently-owned quilt or yarn shops. And, your state may have a state fiber arts organization, with state or national endowment for the arts funding. Ask at any museum how to find the state arts commission to help you find fiber artists. Also, members of the Embroiderers' Guild of America and American Needlepoint Guild should be able to point you in the correct direction -- to people who make lace, teach lace, and can provide information about where to buy supplies. Needlelace instruction is offered by these organizations, and the teachers of needlelaces will know of bobbin lacemakers. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello - Find Lacemaers in Minnesota Other US States
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this information. I am going to contact them right away...I looked at the site you provided already, and they have meetings 2nd Monday of each month...I will be on vacation during their Feburary meeting, but am already planning on attending the March. Thank you so much again. Kathi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Hello - Find Lacemaers in Minnesota Other US States Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:42:14 EST In a message dated 1/26/07 8:31:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was introduced to bobbin lace making by my husband's aunt, who lives in England. She showed me how to do it, but unfortunately where I live don't seem to have much of a support base. I am still fascinated with bobbin lace making though, so have really been enjoying the posts to this list as well as the video links...thanks so much. It is amazing how much work bobbin lace making involves. Dear Kathi, Look at: www.minnlacesociety.org www.internationaloldlacers.org (Large American Lace Guild, which has 28 members who live in Minnesota). You should be able to find lacemakers demonstrating at state and local fairs, street fairs, historic house museums. You may be able to get references from owners at independently-owned quilt or yarn shops. And, your state may have a state fiber arts organization, with state or national endowment for the arts funding. Ask at any museum how to find the state arts commission to help you find fiber artists. Also, members of the Embroiderers' Guild of America and American Needlepoint Guild should be able to point you in the correct direction -- to people who make lace, teach lace, and can provide information about where to buy supplies. Needlelace instruction is offered by these organizations, and the teachers of needlelaces will know of bobbin lacemakers. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hello
Hi Kathy, Welcome from lurkdom. We are all anxious to know, and it is one of the rules that you sign your name with an identifying residence i.e. at least country. Since some countries are so large, if we know where you live, we may know of someone who will contact you re lacemaking. Happy Lacemaking Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA - Original Message - From: Kathi {Beirs} Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: [lace] Hello I just wanted to say hi... I was introduced to bobbin lace making by my husband's aunt, who lives in England. (snip) Good night, Kathi - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I'm in Minnesota, USA...I noticed one of the ladies said something about waiting for snow...she can have the little bit we have...I'm originally from Florida and don't particularly care for it. Thanks, Kathi From: CLIVE Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kathi {Beirs} Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] Hello Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:41:34 -0500 Hi Kathy, Welcome from lurkdom. We are all anxious to know, and it is one of the rules that you sign your name with an identifying residence i.e. at least country. Since some countries are so large, if we know where you live, we may know of someone who will contact you re lacemaking. Happy Lacemaking Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA - Original Message - From: Kathi {Beirs} Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: [lace] Hello I just wanted to say hi... I was introduced to bobbin lace making by my husband's aunt, who lives in England. (snip) Good night, Kathi _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Daphne, Welcome to this fabulous resourse and friendship circle! I hope you enjoy the many varied topics and plethora of facts from all the members of the group. Nice to meet you. Rhiannon (SUNNY-finally, Dorset) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Daphne, Welcome to Arachne on behalf from an Australian spider! I do hope you enjoy our chatter about lace subjects here. It's rather quiet at the moment, why not post a message about what type of lace you like to do. I'm teaching myself 's Gravensmoer from a book at the moment, and having a lot of fun doing so. Noelene in Cooma, Australia (110 km south of Canberra, in the foothills of our Snowy Mountains area) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ I am just writing to introduce myself. My name is Daphne and I live in Norfolk England. I have been a lacemaker for 15 years. Daphne Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Noelene, I was just visiting your website and love the tatted butterfly you did. What is the pattern source? Diane Williams Galena, Illinois USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Noelene Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Daphne, Welcome to Arachne on behalf from an Australian spider! I do hope you enjoy our chatter about lace subjects here. It's rather quiet at the moment, why not post a message about what type of lace you like to do. I'm teaching myself 's Gravensmoer from a book at the moment, and having a lot of fun doing so. Noelene in Cooma, Australia (110 km south of Canberra, in the foothills of our Snowy Mountains area) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ I am just writing to introduce myself. My name is Daphne and I live in Norfolk England. I have been a lacemaker for 15 years. Daphne Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Jenny, Welcome to Arachne, you've found like minded and *very* helpful people. We all wish you good luck in your lacemaking endeavours. At 04:16 PM 28-02-05 +1100, you wrote: Trouble is, Tamara, as Jenny said in her message, she lives an 11- hour drive from Darwin - there is nothing in between, and Darwin is the nearest lace group!!! Aha, Ruth, but there is a group in Kununurra - I've just gotta go find the name. Shirley T. - Adelaide, South Australia where it was 39- ish today. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22-Feb-05 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi to all fellow spiders, Ref pricking card discussion when I first started to make lace we were told that if you could not afford (or get hold of) proper pricking card, to use any firm card covered with sticky plastic covering and if you could only find the shiny type use a plastic pan scrub (the kind with sponge backing) and rub off all the shine from the plastic, this stops the shine distorting the pattern. I used this several times when necessary and found no trouble with sewings. Also looking forward to Norfolk Lacemakers Laceday on Saturday hope to see all my lace friends there. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Now happily lacing again now my arm is better. - Original Message - From: Jenny Barron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Hello to a newbie in Oz Pricking card Tamara said Any gift-box, dis-assembled and covered with transparent, coloured, plastic film will do just fine Jane said I teach my students to use proper pricking card (glazed manila) and a waterproof pen. I must admit to coming back to proper pricking card. The photocopying of and then covering a pricking with film is very easy to do but I really come unstuck when doing sewings. I use a lazy susan, it might be different with a crochet hook, and almost always end up with the business end stuck in the pin hole and making a mess. Pricking card being so much sturdier makes sewings a lot cleaner and easier. This is more important for sectional laces with a lot of sewings. jenny barron Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pricking card Tamara said Any gift-box, dis-assembled and covered with transparent, coloured, plastic film will do just fine Jane said I teach my students to use proper pricking card (glazed manila) and a waterproof pen. I must admit to coming back to proper pricking card. The photocopying of and then covering a pricking with film is very easy to do but I really come unstuck when doing sewings. I use a lazy susan, it might be different with a crochet hook, and almost always end up with the business end stuck in the pin hole and making a mess. Pricking card being so much sturdier makes sewings a lot cleaner and easier. This is more important for sectional laces with a lot of sewings. jenny barron Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Boy am I a newbie! Hello Jenny and welcome to Arachne! I hope you grow to love lacemaking as much as I do! There are many wonderful lacemakers on this list who know far more than I, but I will answer some of the questions you asked, with my opinions. And that is all they are, just my opinions. I'm a relatively new lacemaker (about 4 or 5 years), so I will defer to others whose opinions may vary! I started out learning from books, too, and that works perfectly well. At some point, you will want to take some classes, so that you can learn techniques that aren't necessarily clearly explained in books. For example, I knew the mechanics of making a sewing, but didn't understand exactly how to manipulate the crochet hook until I saw it demonstrated. Videos work well for that, too. I've answered only some of your questions, deleting the ones I don't know or have opinions on. Should I get a round, roller or travel cushion? I would recommend a cookie pillow, which is a round pillow--not a roller pillow for starters, and not a travel pillow. My preferred material is ethafoam (not styrofoam, which breaks down quickly). About an 18 diameter is probably best for a first pillow, and not terribly expensive. Should I get more that one cushion? One is enough for starters. Is there a do not buy list? Yes, the horror kit from Lacis. Should I get a cushion stand? Not necessary at first. Either put your pillow on a TV tray, which will be approximately the right working height, or else sit on several cushions to raise yourself up to normal table height. You didn't ask, but while I'm thinking about it--many people start by tilting their pillow so that the back is higher than the front. You can even buy various items to prop it that way. My advice, is--don't! Learn to work with your pillow flat on the table, and you'll be much happier. What sorts of bobbins are best for a beginner? That's personal taste to a great degree. I started with East Midlands bobbins. Those are the ones with spangles at the ends (little circle of beads). The spangles give the bobbin a little weight to maintain tension on the thread, plus they keep the bobbins from rolling. An added attraction with East Midlands bobbins is that they are made in all kinds of beautiful materials, and one can quickly develop the desire to start a collection--ebony inlaid with mother of pearl, carved and painted bone, spliced woods, etc. My very first introduction to bobbin lace was seeing a friend's pillow with gorgeous bobbins, and I resolved at that moment to make lace so that I'd have an excuse to collect bobbins (which I have done and am still doing!). I still prefer them to Continentals, but for laces that have a lot of sewings, East Midlands aren't terribly practical, and then I use Continental bobbins. Continentals come in a myriad of shapes and sizes, depending on the kind of lace you're making and the weight of the thread. See the web site below for pictures of various bobbins. I will defer to the experience of others who have used many different kinds to suggest the best ones to start with. How many bobbins should I buy? I'd say maybe 3 dozen, but I will defer to the wisdom of others. What is a beginners lace pattern? Should I jump in and start with a lace pattern I like the look of and learn the technique as I go? (that is how I usually learn a new craft) You could do that, but I would recommend you start with a good book on Torchon lace. Once you master the fundamentals of bobbin lace, you can choose the kind of lace that most appeals to you and branch out. Some possible choices are: The Bobbin Lace Manual by Geraldine Stott, The Technique of Bobbin Lace by Pamela Nottingham, The Technique of Torchon Lace by Pamela Nottingham, Introduction to Bobbin Lacemaking by Rosemary Shepherd, The Torchon Lace Workbook by Bridget Cook. Divider pins (can I use sewing pins?) Divider pins are long, long pins. Don't use sewing pins. These are mostly optional. If you want to get a couple you can, but you won't need them at first. Pricking card I bought a big package of blue card stock at my local office supply store. Works fine. thread - can I use crochet cotton? Yes, you can, and many do. I usually treat myself to threads intended for lacemaking. A good thread to start with is Brok 36/3. cover cloth - what colour, fabric Make your own. Solid navy blue, about 18 square, hemmed on all sides. Make a couple while you're at it--one for under your bobbins and one to cover your work. bobbin holder - what is it? There are two categories of bobbin holders. First is something into which to place your bobbins after they're wound and before you put them on your pillow. Usually a cloth with little pockets sewn into it. Some of the books mentioned above have some suggestions for making these. You can also get wood or plastic holders on which you can hang the wound bobbins. The other category is
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I'm going to pick and choose a few questions to comment on, but first some gratuitous advice. I started lacemaking on my own from books. The best bit of advice I got was join the national guild immediately. Access to the library in the first year was worth the joining fee several times over, and was more useful in that year than any since. Someone will be along soon to give you details of the Australian Lace Guild. On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:55:29 +0800, Jenny wrote: How many bobbins should I buy? Depends how convinced you are that you will like bobbin lace, and how hard it is for you to get supplies. I made my first bandage strip using crochet thread wrapped around clothes pegs pinned into a cork floor tile. This was enough to convince me I was going to like it, so I bought 100 bobbins which was enough for a lot more patterns than 30 would be. The danger with this approach is buying a type of bobbin which you later find isn't your favourite; the advantage is having a set of matching bobbins which feels good to work with. Should I jump in and start with a lace pattern I like the look of and learn the technique as I go? (that is how I usually learn a new craft) I'm well known round here for the why start at the beginning when there's a perfectly good middle to jump into approach, but even I would say no to that. Find a pattern you like the look of, find a book on that technique, but do some of the beginner patterns from a general introduction first. I managed to restrain myself from jumping into my preferred lace, Bedfordshire, for a couple of weeks while I learnt the basics and I'd recommend you do the same. Divider pins (can I use sewing pins?) Not essential, some lacemakers don't use them. Pricking card Glazed pricking card is more pleasant to work on than odd bits of card from anywhere, so I'd say yes. Be aware that using card in the traditional way means pinning a copy of the pricking (pattern) on the card and pricking holes through it, which is slower than putting sticky plastic over a photocopy. thread - can I use crochet cotton? Yes to start, but it is shinier and more tightly twisted than is ideal for lace. When you've got your book, get the thread you need for the patterns in it. cover cloth - what colour, fabric Something non-fluffy. Any colour you like, as this covers the entire pillow and bobbins when you aren't working on it. working cloth - what is it? Start with the pillow, pin the pricking on it, then put the working cloth over the lower part of the pricking and pillow. The working cloth should be visually non-distracting and a contrast to your thread, so usually a plain dark colour. The surface can be a bit grabby to stop bobbins rolling - I have one in velvet - or smooth as you prefer. The absolute must is colour fastness, otherwise your threads will unevenly pick up the working cloth colour. fishing tackle pliers Hackle pliers. See here on my web site: http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/hackle.htm Not really a must have to start with. good how to book/s See the collected views of this list on my web site: http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/begbook.htm I live in Kununurra, a small isolated country town and am 11 hours drive from the nearest city - which is Darwin. Now that really is isolated. I believe there are some lacemakers in Darwin. -- If we are to gain any measure of respect from visiting aliens, then we must allow,and encourage our citizens, to be themselves, and not mould them, to be as we would wish - Tim Stewart Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I'm also new, although depending on how you feel like counting I've either been learning lace for a couple of months or for around 20 years ;-) From the leftie side of things, it's not a problem at all. As someone else has just commented, bobbin lace is a fairly ambidextrous sort of thing - the only time I've ever had problems is when I was younger and my nan (rightie) would wind my bobbins and and I'd (leftie) put the hitches on them in the opposite direction. You know when the bobbin's been wound or hitched the opposite to what was needed because you've suddenly got a bobbin dangling around your ankle because it's unravelled itself. It's a lot easier now I both wind and hitch my bobbins myself! Personally, because I'm still only using 8 pairs for simple, small bookmarks and because I'm a student with no money, I would say that a bobbin winder is a bit of a luxury to start off with. Mine get wound while I'm sat in front of the TV of an evening. On the other hand, some of the patterns in the book I'm using want 20 or more pairs, so a winder may be at the top of my birthday list this year. The book I'm working through right now is Pam Robinson's A manual of Bedfordshire Lace. It starts off with a strip of whole and half stitch and then goes on to a *very* simple bookmark made of four interwoven plaits made of 4 strands each with some picots (pretty knot things) around the outside. The patterns do get more difficult, but I certainly can't think of anything simpler to start off with. I hope this helps a bit. If anyone feels that I'm talking rubbish and wants to correct me at all, please do! Helen (cold and dark Somerset, UK) At 13:55 27/02/2005, Jenny Brandis wrote: .QUESTIONS from a newbie Will my being left handed be an advantage in learning bobbin lace? What is a beginners lace pattern? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22/02/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Welcome, Jenny! I do hope you have as much fun with bobbin lace as I did when I started. Should I get a round, roller or travel cushion? This, and most of the other tools, depends in part on personal preference. I expect you'll get lots of different answers. Personally, I do not recommend starting with a travel pillow. It's small and cramped for most lace, since it's meant to be easily carried. I learned on a roller pillow, which is (IMO) the best kind for doing yardage. However, cookie pillows (round, with a slight dome) can be used for yardage, and roller pillows are not good for motifs. I recommend a block pillow to start. These are usually square or octagonal, and made up of moveable, interchangeable blocks. Some block pillows have 3 blocks in a row, with padded side sections. Others have 5 blocks in a cross, or 9 blocks, arranged 3-by-3. Nine-block pillows are the most flexible. In the US, Snowgoose sells a pillow they call the One and Only (I think). This is a cover-it-yourself round pillow with a shallow box in the center. It comes with two blocks to fit in that box, or one block plus a cylinder so you can use it like a roller pillow. It's also inexpensive. If there's something like that available in Australia, it would be my recommendation. Should I get more that one cushion? While this is an addicting hobby and many (most?) of us need more than one pillow, one is plenty to start with. As you learn more laces, you can get more pillows and more bobbins. Is there a do not buy list? There's one kit that uses a pressed wood-fiber board instead of a pillow, and plastic bobbins with sharp edges. It's available from a number of craft stores and websites and should be avoided AT ALL COSTS! It is a most discouraging set, although some people do go on with bobbin lace despite it. Should I get a cushion stand? This is a nicety, not a necessity IMO. Most people are comfortable enough working at a normal table, unless they're very short. If you've got plenty of money to put into the craft, by all means get a lace table, but this is something you can do without at first, if you need to economize. What sorts of bobbins are best for a beginner? I think most people start with Torchon lace, which can be done just as easily with Midlands (narrow shaft, ring of glass beads at the bottom) or Continentals (wood with a bulge at the base). There are many styles of continentals. To start, you *won't* want very small and delicate bobbins, such as Mechlin, fancy Danish, or Honiton. You will most likely be starting with relatively thick thread, and these bobbins (a) don't hold enough thick thread to do a project and (b) aren't heavy enough to control thick thread. Swiss, Dutch, International, Belgian, Bayeux, Swedish, and others are big and heavy enough. How many bobbins should I buy? The simplest pattern I know takes 5 or 6 pairs (=10 or 12 bobbins). However, for your second project you will want at least twice that number. I suggest 3 dozen bobbins to start. Will my being left handed be an advantage in learning bobbin lace? Nope. I'm left-handed and I find there is no handedness to BL. What is a beginners lace pattern? There are quite a few books aimed at beginners. These books include information on how to do a cross and a twist (the two stitches that make up BL), how to dress a pillow, how to read a BL pattern, and often have information on making a pillow and bobbin carrier. Any patterns near the front of such a book should be good to start with. Should I jump in and start with a lace pattern I like the look of and learn the technique as I go? This is how I usually start new subjects, too, but I don't recommend it for BL. Without someone to check your choice, you could easily find yourself trying to learn from a pattern that is too complex for a first try. Some patterns don't have good instructions, the designer assuming you already know enough about lace to figure it out. Other patterns may look simple because they don't take many pairs of bobbins, but have quirks and pitfalls that will make them frustrating to a beginner. Again, starting with a beginner's book should work well. You don't have to start at the *beginning* of the book's patterns BG What should be in my beginners kit? Divider pins (can I use sewing pins?) Yes, you can use sewing pins, but I suggest the glass-headed kind for dividers, not all-metal. However, dividers aren't all that important. For the pins of the lace, you can use sewing pins for most beginner's projects. Eventually you'll want finer pins with small heads for the finer laces (thin thread, pinholes close together). You'll need several hundred (yes, it takes a lot of pins) and you want pins that don't corrode easily. Stainless steel, nickel-plated, anodized, or brass are the main choices. Pricking card Yes. Or you can start by using
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Is there a do not buy list? Yes, most of the packaged kits for beginners. I'd like to clarify this. A number of lace suppliers put together nice beginner's kits. However, some general craft or needlework stores/dealers carry the horror kit I described in my longer post. A kit from a lace supplier should be just fine, but stay away from kits sold by non-specialists (although I hear Halcyon yarns in the US has put together a decent kit). Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Trouble is, Tamara, as Jenny said in her message, she lives an 11- hour drive from Darwin - there is nothing in between, and Darwin is the nearest lace group!!! Ruth (Sydney, Australia) - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: [lace] Hello to a newbie in Oz (very long) Welcome to the list, Jenny. I know everyone else has answered all your questions, but I can't resist doing it too :) First I'd like to endorse the advice which appeared in some of the previous messages: 1) Join the Australian Lace Guild: http://www.austlaceguild.org/ and then whatever smaller group is the nearest one to you. Virtual help is all very well and quick, but, in many ways, not as good as the real stuff :) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I disagree with Tamara (not a rare thing, despite being good friends) on this. I didn't get a pricker till I'd been making lace for a few years. I used a large-headed pin, such as a corsage pin. Or I just used the pattern without pre-pricking. However, I admit a good, comfortable pricker makes it easier to pre-prick the pattern, and pre-pricking makes it easier and more accurate putting in the pins during lacemaking. So I agree that a pricker is a useful tool for the beginning package, but disagree that it's mandatory. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] need, but there was one thing missing that I think you *have to have* - a pricker But the pricker you need with the starter kit. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Feb 28, 2005, at 0:16, Ruth Budge wrote: Trouble is, Tamara, as Jenny said in her message, she lives an 11- hour drive from Darwin - there is nothing in between, and Darwin is the nearest lace group!!! Can't blame you for not reading trough to the bitter end; it *was* a long message... :) But I too discounted Darwin as a local group possibility; 11 hrs diriving time isn't within reasonable driving distance, so not on for your weekly meetings. Though it still might do for flying in once a year for a Lace Day, and might be helpful with a library and such. Distances in US aren't much fun, either, and we manage. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Arne ! Yes, you are correct! The @ symbol was incorporated into a clever spider with the addition of some legs, and many who travel to big lace gatherings wear this easily identifiable symbol to show they are members of Arachne. Jacqui Southworth, in the UK, designed a brooch and posted her design to her website. I've checked, and it is still there, if you'd like to use her design! http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/gallery/honbrch.htm I'm envious of all who will enjoy the Tonder festival this year!! One of these days, I hope to be able to enjoy a trip like that!! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA - where the daffodils and crocuses are in full bloom!! - Original Message - From: noekkentved [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: [lace] Hello from a cold Denmark Hello Everybody. As it has been really cold in Denmark today (at least we feel so), I have started dreaming about summer and the Lace-Festival in Tonder, which is going to take place again this year. I wonder how many from this list are going to join us. Last time was really a great time, lots of lace-talk with some nice people. My main-reason why I do write this now is, that I suddenly cannot remember if it was among Arachne lacers or if it was among German Lacers that a lace-@ was used as a symbol. I am going to make my @ anyway, but I suddenly am not sure, if, what I told a Danish Lace list is the truth (I did remmeber the @ as an Arachne-thing). I really am curious to hear about visits to Vamberk in the Czech Republic. I were in touch with somebody in that museum-project a couple of years ago, and at that time there were problems getting money to get it going But indeed hope that it is ok today. Have a nice and lacy day arne from Denmark - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]