Re: [lace] lace photos

[Kathleen Harris]

Some of the patterns are lovely, and I noticed that some prickings are marked 
ROK. I think that is a Spanish lace organisation or is it a pattern producer? 
Are these patterns available in the UK? Maybe they belong to a Spanish lace 
organisation.

Kathleen, in sunny Berkshire, UK

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Maria Greil]

Dear Kathleen,

This is the link to



*Patrons Roka.http://patronsroka.net/es/ *
It is a Spanish pattern producer and you can order the patterns you like.
Unfortunately the webside is only in Spanish

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Maria Greil
a German living in Spain

2015-09-07 11:01 GMT+02:00 Kathleen Harris :

> Some of the patterns are lovely, and I noticed that some prickings are
> marked ROK. I think that is a Spanish lace organisation or is it a pattern
> producer? Are these patterns available in the UK? Maybe they belong to a
> Spanish lace organisation.
>
> Kathleen, in sunny Berkshire, UK
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 6 Sep 2015, at 21:54, Lorelei Halley  wrote:
> >
> > From a lace day in Spain today. Mostly torchon.
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/115442612146497018188/6DeSeptiembreDe2015?feat=c
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[ELIZABETH PASS]

Hello Maria and Kathleen,

Near the top right of the webpage there are two words - idioma and espagnol.  
Hover the mouse over espagnol and a choice of languages appears - English is 
one of them.

liz Pass
in Poole, where we have another sunny day>

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Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos

Dear Kathleen,

This is the link to



*Patrons Roka.http://patronsroka.net/es/ <http://patronsroka.net/es/>*
It is a Spanish pattern producer and you can order the patterns you like.
Unfortunately the webside is only in Spanish

*.*
Maria Greil
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Re: [lace] lace photos- WARNING

[ELIZABETH PASS]

Hello Cindy,

I'm sorry that happened - I wonder why?
Best Wishes,

Liz
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WARNING  I tried that and it went to english and my computer was
immediately attacked by a mailware/spy ware.  I got a message from my
browser and couldn't get out of the loop.  I had to shut down everything
and reboot.  

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Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 10:18:07 + (UTC)

Hello Maria and Kathleen,

Near the top right of the webpage there are two words - idioma and
espagnol.  Hover the mouse over espagnol and a choice of languages
appears - English is one of them.

liz Pass
in Poole, where we have another sunny day>

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Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos

Dear Kathleen,

This is the link to



*Patrons Roka.http://patronsroka.net/es/ <http://patronsroka.net/es/>*
It is a Spanish pattern producer and you can order the patterns you
like.
Unfortunately the webside is only in Spanish

*.*
Maria Greil
a German living in Spain

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RE: [lace] lace photos

[Noelene Lafferty]

Plain text on Arachne splits a long link into two lines, which won't work
without editing, so I've translated it to a Tiny URL:
http://tinyurl.com/koz3q5q

Noelene

 Maria Bissacco has posted 137 photos from the Peniche 2014 lace day. I hope
you can see these, even if you don't have a facebook account.
https://www.facebook.com/maria.bissacco.16/media_set?set=a.741237575939495.1
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73741848.11597776960type=3

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Maureen]

I couldn't open this it said invalid request

Maureen
E Yorks


 On 8 May 2014, at 21:44, Lorelei Halley 
 
 What to do with all those strips:
 https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10245462_628921067198
 190_5297656344381281822_n.jpg
 
 Lorelei
 

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Catherine Barley]

Me too!  I really enjoyed the other link to the lace photos, Binche and 
Needlelace.  Thank you Lorelei


Catherine Barley
Henley-on-Thames
UK
Catherine Barley Needlelace
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Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos



I couldn't open this it said invalid request

Maureen
E Yorks



On 8 May 2014, at 21:44, Lorelei Halley

What to do with all those strips:
https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10245462_628921067198
190_5297656344381281822_n.jpg

Lorelei



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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Sue]

You need to capture the whole link, including the third line to paste into 
the bar.

Sue

Me too!  I really enjoyed the other link to the lace photos, Binche and
Needlelace.  Thank you Lorelei

Catherine Barley

Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos

I couldn't open this it said invalid request

Maureen
E Yorks

On 8 May 2014, at 21:44, Lorelei Halley

What to do with all those strips:
https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10245462_628921067198
190_5297656344381281822_n.jpg

Lorelei


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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Cynce Williams]

Cute.

Cynce


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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Ilske Thomsen]

Lorelei,
there ia a new book from Yvonne Scheele.Kerkhof coming soon.

Ilske

Am 06.04.2014 um 23:45 schrieb Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com:

 I just discovered Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof's website. Fantastic duchesse, floral
 Beds and more.
 http://www.lacestudio-paragon.com/gallery.html
 Lorelei
 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Catherine Barley]

Some really stunning pieces!  A bit on the short side but could of course be 
lengthened.  Highly fashionable for the younger generation.


Catherine Barley
UK

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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: [lace] lace photos



I swear this isn't a porn site.  It is the Russian Institute of Folk Arts.
Bobbin tape lace made into modern very very short clothing.  Really
interesting.
Lorelei

http://vshni.ru/kafedra_kruzevo.htm

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RE: [lace] lace photos

[Maureen]

Hi Lorelei

Love the lace on this site.  But wouldn't date to wear it myself.

Maureen
E Yorks

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[John Mead]

Interesting makeup choices, not sure it brings out their best features.
Nice lace. Models a bit on the scrawny side, not anorexic, but Twiggy-ish.
They look very aloof. Wearing the lace would require someone rather daring.


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 Love the lace on this site.  But wouldn't date to wear it myself.

 Maureen
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[John Mead]

I know what it is about the models that bothers me, they have no arm
muscles! Thus looking unhealthy to me.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 AM, John Mead johnbobm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting makeup choices, not sure it brings out their best features.
 Nice lace. Models a bit on the scrawny side, not anorexic, but Twiggy-ish.
 They look very aloof. Wearing the lace would require someone rather daring.


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 Love the lace on this site.  But wouldn't date to wear it myself.

 Maureen
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Bev Walker]

They do. Body makeup and photoshop perhaps?

About lengthening as others have mentioned - that would mean more lacing!

Think of these as art pieces with the models as the 'frames.'


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 I know what it is about the models that bothers me, they have no arm
 muscles! Thus looking unhealthy to me.


-- 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Bev Walker]

Thank you Lorelei. The last photo is wonderfully extravagant.
(some of the models look ill). I put google translate to use.
I note after the jump from the Graduate School there is a link to
information on children's schools, design - decorative arts including
lace-art.
Pre-school on up through high school, 4 lessons per month at 4000 rubles,
held on weekends.


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 http://vshni.ru/kafedra_kruzevo.htm


-- 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Clay Blackwell]

They are some fabulous pieces!  I do agree though...   Like fashion models 
everywhere, they look emaciated, and the make-up is...   over the top ( or 
should I say under the bottom?). 

Clay

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 Thank you Lorelei. The last photo is wonderfully extravagant.
 (some of the models look ill). 

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Laceandbits]

Lovely work, but it's a triangle so probably a shawl not a tablecloth.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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RE: [lace] lace photos

[Ayla Middleton]

Thank you Clay and Joepie for the advice on wire lace. I'll have to be
brave and just start trying I think.

As for attendance at lace days and online shopping, two books purchased
from roseground just arrived with a pile of fair brochures attached to
the invoice. I'd love to attend but flying to England is a bit much
when I have difficulty making it to lace days out of my city in new
Zealand! But as a young one I do know I need to make more of an
effort to meet other pacemakers and get to know the community.



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Sent: 18/04/2013 5:52 PM
To: Ayla Middleton; Sue Harvey
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Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos
Hi Arachnids,

Firstly my thanks to Lorelei for the inspiring lace webpages. They are
lovely.

Secondly, There seem to be fewer Lace days and fairs in the UK as Sue said.
The reason for that is probably not just the fact that people are using the
net, but also that the people who used to organise them (and note here that
it often has been the same few people taking up the work of putting these
things on) tend to be getting a little older. Younger ones may not have the
time nor the inclination (No time? Shy? Not feeling 'up to it'?, etc.) to
take up the mantle.

Thirdly, I have used to the stiffen the edges of lace; spangle wire (24 and
26 gauge), different sizes fuse wire and millinery wire. Spangle wire and
fuse wire don't rust. Millinery wire which is cotton covered steel will rust
if in damp surroundings; spangling and fuse wire are brass/copper based and
cause fewer problems. They look pretty in the edge but they will tarnish and
may discolour the lace on the edges in the long run. Stainless steel wire,
difficult to get hold of and a nightmare to handle as it is very springy,
discolours less. Sterling silver wire is expensive.

I tend to use short pieces (enough for a section such as a petal or a
butterfly wing) with only the ends wound onto a stout bobbin. These curled
up ends will be discarded. Put as few bends, windings and kinks in the wire
between the bobbins at the end as possible, any unnecessary bends etc. can
cause kinking which is particularly difficult to remove. So handle gently
and bend gently to the shape needed as you work the wire into the lace.

Hope that helps.

Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK



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I've been thinking of trying something like the brooches with wire gimps at
the edges. Does anyone have any advice on what type and gauge of wire to
use? Can you just wind them on bobbins as you would thread? wouldn't the
half-hitch cause problems?

thanks
Ayla
Wellington, NZ

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Rochelle Sutherland]

It is unfortunately not an isolated problem. It is happening in a lot of the
creative arts. In defense of the younger ones though, as I'm 40 and have
earned my stripes in the business world, I know that sometimes it is difficult
to get others to hand over the reins. It is often frustrating to see things
slow down but not be allowed to do anything about it. I know it is almost
always easier to do it yourself when you have been doing something for some
time, but could I encourage everyone to take a younger one under their
wing, by force if necessary, and plan for them to succeed you. Please don't
see them as a threat or taking over, but as a plan for longevity. It is vital
for the survival of our craft and the diversity of creative arts in our
societies. New blood and new ideas and sometimes new ways are good things.
---
Rochelle Sutherland 

Lachlan (15 yrs), Duncan (13 yrs) and Iain (12 yrs)
http://www.houseofhadrian.com.au/

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lace photos


Hi Arachnids,


Secondly, There seem to be fewer Lace days
and fairs in the UK as Sue said. 
The reason for that is probably not just
the fact that people are using the 
net, but also that the people who used to
organise them (and note here that 
it often has been the same few people
taking up the work of putting these 
things on) tend to be getting a little
older. Younger ones may not have the 
time nor the inclination (No time? Shy?
Not feeling 'up to it'?, etc.) to 
take up the mantle.



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[Jacquie Tinch]

I suspect that it is a combination of things, and the lack of organisers is 
almost the least. 

One of the main problems is that there are far fewer suppliers, and with the 
cost of transporting their goods most of them are not willing to/can't afford 
to attend lace days and fairs where they are not even going to cover their 
costs so there is now a small core of them who are at nearly every event over 
quite a large area and it is unusual to find anyone else. It is only the very 
largest fairs who are still able to attract a wider range of them. 

Related to this there are also fewer lacemakers (and this situation will 
continue until we can get more and younger people enthused), at the moment 
possibly with less available money, and they know they are going to see mostly 
the same suppliers so why bother to go to the lace day or fair. If they do go 
it's to meet friends and chat, not to buy from those same suppliers, which in 
turn makes the suppliers less likely to attend that event again. A real vicious 
circle.  

Add to that the cost of venues and insurance is going up (although cover for a 
UK lace day is free to Lace Guild members), making it more of a gamble for the 
organisers that they won't be out of pocket at the end of the day. 

Many of the events in Spain at least have some back up support in the way of 
venue and/or finance from the local government, because the Spanish authorities 
take their lace heritage more seriously than their counterparts in the UK. 

Jacquie in Lincolnshire. 

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[Maureen]

Hi

I have several new students and they all seem to be buying of the internet
as a lot of the suppliers are using this form of selling nowadays.   But it
doesn't help if they want to see what they are buying.

I am also involved for our local  lace group and we are having great
difficulty getting anyone to come to our meetings nowadays.But I have
managed to get suppliers for our Lace days for 2013 and 2014.

Maureen
E Yorks   UK

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Sue Harvey]

Thank you Lorelei for sharing, some truly remarkable pieces of lace. In the UK 
we seem not to make such large pieces as your Lacemakers - it was lovely to see 
the jackets in particular.  We seem to have less and less lace days now than we 
had a few years ago, I think it is because so many people buy online supplies 
these days, but that will never beat walking round at a lace day looking at 
other lace and getting ideas for future projects. 

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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[Sue Harvey]

Thank you Lorelei for sharing, some truly remarkable pieces of lace. In the UK 
we seem not to make such large pieces as your Lacemakers - it was lovely to see 
the jackets in particular.  We seem to have less and less lace days now than we 
had a few years ago, I think it is because so many people buy online supplies 
these days, but that will never beat walking round at a lace day looking at 
other lace and getting ideas for future projects. 

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K. 

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Ayla Middleton]

Thank you for the links Lorelei, they are very inspiring.

I've been thinking of trying something like the brooches with wire gimps at
the edges. Does anyone have any advice on what type and gauge of wire to
use? Can you just wind them on bobbins as you would thread? wouldn't the
half-hitch cause problems?

thanks
Ayla
Wellington, NZ


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Sue Harvey 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Thank you Lorelei for sharing, some truly remarkable pieces of lace. In
 the UK we seem not to make such large pieces as your Lacemakers - it was
 lovely to see the jackets in particular.  We seem to have less and less
 lace days now than we had a few years ago, I think it is because so many
 people buy online supplies these days, but that will never beat walking
 round at a lace day looking at other lace and getting ideas for future
 projects.

 Sue M Harvey
 Norfolk
 U.K.

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Clay Blackwell]

 wouldn't the half-hitch cause problems?


Absolutely, Ayla!  Using wire requires a special bobbin.  There are a number of 
different types, designed to meet the various weights (sizes) of wire in a 
project.  You will never want to put a hitch on wire...   It will crimp and 
never straighten again.  

Sorry I can't provide more information but I have only had a tiny exposure to 
wire lace...  Enough to know the challenges!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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On Apr 17, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Ayla Middleton ayla.p.middle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been thinking of trying something like the brooches with wire gimps at
 the edges. Does anyone have any advice on what type and gauge of wire to
 use? Can you just wind them on bobbins as you would thread? wouldn't the
 half-hitch cause problems?
 
 thanks
 Ayla
 Wellington, NZ
 
 
 

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[J D Hammett]

Hi Arachnids,

Firstly my thanks to Lorelei for the inspiring lace webpages. They are 
lovely.


Secondly, There seem to be fewer Lace days and fairs in the UK as Sue said. 
The reason for that is probably not just the fact that people are using the 
net, but also that the people who used to organise them (and note here that 
it often has been the same few people taking up the work of putting these 
things on) tend to be getting a little older. Younger ones may not have the 
time nor the inclination (No time? Shy? Not feeling 'up to it'?, etc.) to 
take up the mantle.


Thirdly, I have used to the stiffen the edges of lace; spangle wire (24 and 
26 gauge), different sizes fuse wire and millinery wire. Spangle wire and 
fuse wire don't rust. Millinery wire which is cotton covered steel will rust 
if in damp surroundings; spangling and fuse wire are brass/copper based and 
cause fewer problems. They look pretty in the edge but they will tarnish and 
may discolour the lace on the edges in the long run. Stainless steel wire, 
difficult to get hold of and a nightmare to handle as it is very springy, 
discolours less. Sterling silver wire is expensive.


I tend to use short pieces (enough for a section such as a petal or a 
butterfly wing) with only the ends wound onto a stout bobbin. These curled 
up ends will be discarded. Put as few bends, windings and kinks in the wire 
between the bobbins at the end as possible, any unnecessary bends etc. can 
cause kinking which is particularly difficult to remove. So handle gently 
and bend gently to the shape needed as you work the wire into the lace.


Hope that helps.

Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK



-Original Message- 
From: Ayla Middleton



I've been thinking of trying something like the brooches with wire gimps at
the edges. Does anyone have any advice on what type and gauge of wire to
use? Can you just wind them on bobbins as you would thread? wouldn't the
half-hitch cause problems?

thanks
Ayla
Wellington, NZ

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[J D Hammett]

Hi Arachnids,

Thank you for that link Lorelei. I have just spent a very pleasurable time 
looking at the marvelously diverse and beautifully executed laces from many 
different places. Exquisite!


Happy lace making.

Joepie, East Sussex, UK Cold for the time of the year, but DRY today. We 
have even seen the SUN ( you remember; that glowing red/orange ball in the 
sky that makes life so much more enjoyable :-D).


-Original Message- 
From: Lorelei Halley

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:11 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] lace photos

This album has a lot of marvelous bobbin lace.  Worth looking at.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102574002150671233259/albums/57290014849021127
21

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[martina . dewille]

Hello Lorelei,

What an interesting story and very delicate and pretty crocheting. Thank you 
for sharing.

Martina in Germany


On 17 Feb 2013 at 16:07, Lorelei Halley wrote:

 A collection of Irish crochet motifs by a group of people associated
 with the
 Ravelry Irish crochet group.  They are impressive.
 http://irishcrochettogether.blogspot.com/2013/02/a-true-collaboratio
 n.html
 Lorelei
 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Susie Rose]

Hello to One and All!

Look at all of the eye candy!!

 
Hugs,
 
Susie
Rose   

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 From: Lorelei Halley
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To: lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012
12:54 PM
Subject: [lace] lace photos
 
This huge album has a lot of
interesting lace: many lace fans, a piece of
Valenciennes in process, some
drawn thread work.
Lorelei
https://picasaweb.google.com/114418629233714602790/ELVERGER2012XIENCONTREDEBO
IXETS?feat=content_notification#

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Ilske Thomsen]

What a wonderfully done site. 
Thank you Lorelei

Ilske


Am 14.09.2012 um 00:28 schrieb Lorelei Halley:

 For those who love sol laces, here are some marvelous ones from Hvar,
 Croatia.
 http://sitakrajka.blogspot.com/2012/03/hvarska-krajka-hvarska-cipka.html
 Lorelei
 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Janis Savage]

Wow, her lace is amazing, and I love her use of stitches in the swan and the 
ferns. Does Pene Piip, perhaps, know who Helene Kuma is and something about 
the Museum of Amandus Adamson, Paldiski, Estonia

Janis in Honeydew South Africa
where we are promised the first rain of the season today.

-Original Message- 
From: Lorelei Halley

If you love ferns, you will love this lace:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/bobbinlace/pool/with/7886470258/#photo_7886470258

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[celia mulhearn]

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On 4 Sep 2012, at 01:25, Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com wrote:

 Here are some interesting laces, mostly torchon, Cluny and hybrids, one LePuy
 guipure.
 https://picasaweb.google.com/leboreira/Arguero2012?feat=content_notification#
 Lorelei

Lovely pictures with lovely lace. I really liked the hexagonal roses in 
pink and green. i have made it in white and bought the thread to do the roses 
in pale pink but like lots of things its on the to-do list.
Thanks Lorelei... I may just have to make the edging again sooner rather than 
later :-)
Celia Mulhearn. S.E. London, off to watch paralympic archery this morning 
instead of going to work

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[pene piip]

Lorelei wrote:
 Apparently his wife is a lace maker.  But he goes
around to lace exhibitions all over Europe, takes lots of photos, and posts
them on flickr.  To access his entire stash:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/perignon/sets/
Lorelei

These photos are taken by Priit Halberg who is Estonian AND a lacemaker.
He  his wife Kristiina (who is on the right of the OIDFA Eiffel Tower in Caen)
have travelled during the last 10 years to Germany  a few other countries,
but not all over Europe, though I think they wish they could.

Pene in Tartu, Estonia

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Bev Walker]

Sue is correct, the url is in twice. I just tried and the tinies won't
work.
Sue's as is, does:
https://plus.google.com/photos/117729758154865738297/albums/5767619776722479793

My mistake. sorry.

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Bev Walker walker.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lorelei, the link as copied is quite long and not all of it is active.
 Here is it tinied:



-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Lorelei Halley]

Shirley
I think he is, actually.  Apparently his wife is a lace maker.  But he goes 
around to lace exhibitions all over Europe, takes lots of photos, and posts 
them on flickr.  To access his entire stash:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/perignon/sets/
Lorelei



Thank you so much Lorelei for these wonderful photos.  I've been 
checking out quite a few sites posted on Arachne but whoever this 
photographer is they would quite easily get a very good salary as a 
professional photographer.


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Re: [lace] lace photos - Carrots?

[Malvary Cole]

The file name for the picture is tombolo carote, but there is no other 
information.


Malvary in Ottawa where it isn't a bit like June.  Lawn bowls tournament 
yesterday because of weather, and this afternoon looks wet with a 
thunderstorm forecast which might cancel today's game.


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Re: [lace] lace photos - Carrots?

[Malvary Cole]

Whoops - signature block should have said Lawn bowls tournament yesterday 
CANCELLED because.


-Original Message- 
From: Malvary Cole

To: Lace Arachne

The file name for the picture is tombolo carote, but there is no other
information.

Malvary in Ottawa where it isn't a bit like June.  Lawn bowls tournament
yesterday because of weather, and this afternoon looks wet with a
thunderstorm forecast which might cancel today's game.

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[scotlace]

Is there a tiny URL for this?.  I can't get it either.


Patricia in Wales


-Original Message-
From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com
To: lace lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 7:08
Subject: [lace] lace photos


This one is under the heading how to make an altar cloth entirely of lace
and
not get bored doing it.
https://plus.google.com/photos/112893045695607884541/albums/53631781412340200
33/5747848285770303906?banner=pwagpsrc=pwrd1#photos/112893045695607884541/al
bums/5363178141234020033/5747508343146431426

It is #182 in the album.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[kazaman44]

I haven't tried This link because I've just woken up and am still in bed. All 
it should take is simply clicking on the link which will be highlighted in 
blue. Having said that, sometimes the links do take me nowhere. One case was 
yesterday's link to a film on French lace.
For the benefit of those who were discussing trimming posts last week, 
yesterday Avital helped me find out how to do so on my BlackBerry Torch. Yippee!
Karen in Malta 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[J D Hammett]

Hi Arachnids,

To get the WHOLE STRING (3 lines) in easily;  Just mark it by rolling your 
mouse over it holding gown the left button. Then while the cursor is on 
the -now marked blue section- left click. Click copy on the list that 
appears. Next paste the whole string into the address line on the net and 
hit return. That should get you there without too much trouble.


Hope that helps you

Happy lace making and browsing,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK





This one is under the heading how to make an altar cloth entirely of lace 
and

not get bored doing it.
https://plus.google.com/photos/112893045695607884541/albums/53631781412340200
33/5747848285770303906?banner=pwagpsrc=pwrd1#photos/112893045695607884541/al
bums/5363178141234020033/5747508343146431426

It is #182 in the album.
Lorelei

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RE: [lace] lace photos

[Ruth Budge]

Thank you Joepie, for explaining that so clearly and nicely.

Ruth (Sydney, Australia)



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D Hammett
Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 6:04 PM
To: Lorelei Halley; lace@arachne.com
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Hi Arachnids,

To get the WHOLE STRING (3 lines) in easily;  Just mark it by rolling your
mouse over it holding gown the left button.. 

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Brenda Paternoster]

That's what I always do for a long url - and I get the 404 error for for 

https://plus.google.com/photos/112893045695607884541/albums/53631781412340200
33/5747848285770303906?banner=pwagpsrc=pwrd1#photos/112893045695607884541/al
bums/5363178141234020033/5747508343146431426


On 2 Jun 2012, at 07:59, Lorelei Halley wrote:

 Sorry guys
 I take the trouble to post these links.  I am not going to bother going to
 some 3rd website to get a tiny url.  You have to copy the entire string of
 code, even if it is 2 or 3 lines long.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[kazaman44]

In my case, if its blue I just click on it because it's a live link.
Karen in Malta 
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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Jean Nathan]

Yes, that's fine if the URL is only one line, but the problem in this case was
that the URL was split over three lines and only the top line was blue - that
blue line was going into the address box, bit the other two lines were not.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
  Karen wrote:

  In my case, if its blue I just click on it because it's a live link.
  Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Agnes Boddington]

Karen
Be careful with clicking directly on a link in an email, even if you know 
the address.

This is what hackers etc. rely on to get your details.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


In my case, if its blue I just click on it because it's a live link.
Karen in Malta


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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[kazaman44]

Thankfully it's never happend in about 15 years of internet...hopefully 
there'll never be a first time! :-)
)
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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[kazaman44]

That's a different story altogether then.
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Sue Babbs]

That was because a 'carriage return' had sneaked in the middle of  albums - 
after al.


I've sent tinyurl already, which makes it much easier

Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: Brenda Paternoster


That's what I always do for a long url - and I get the 404 error for for

https://plus.google.com/photos/112893045695607884541/albums/53631781412340200
33/5747848285770303906?banner=pwagpsrc=pwrd1#photos/112893045695607884541/al
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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[lynrbailey]

Dear Jean,
I just paint' the whole thing by putting my cursor to the left of the string, 
click or tap on the pad and move the cursor without lifting up, going down the 
2 or 3 lines, until all are painted with blue, then push down on the control 
and C buttons at the same time.  Open a new window, put the cursor in the right 
place, push down on the control and V buttons at the same time, and there it 
is.  Takes much, much longer to write than it does to do it.  Works every time. 

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where we got 3 inches of rain last night 
and had tornado warnings.  Nothing serious happened, but the tornado watch 
didn't end until about 2 a.m.  We slept in our beds, however, and not in the 
laundry room in the basement.  Daring.   

Or you could just do what Joepie said!

I didn't know that you need to have your mouse pointer over the line 
underlined in blue to get it copy the whole lot. You learn something every 
day.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 



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Re: [lace] lace photos - Carrots?

[Vicki Bradford]

Hello everyone,

The photo sent by Lorelei is one among many in an album which has some
other interesting photos. I paged backward and looked at some of the
others, one of which is very strange.  It is in the album twice, as
number 45 and also as number 126.  The 'bobbins' look like carrots (!!)
to me.  The photo isn't terribly clear, especially when enlarged to try
to see for sure. What does anyone else think??

Vicki in Maryland where we also had tornado warnings last evening, but
today was picture postcard perfect!

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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[Maureen Bromley]

What a wonderful collection of lace and lacemakers.It looks as if 
everyone is having a lovely time.  So nice to see such a lot of support for 
lacemaking.


Maureen
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Re: Spanish Lace Pillow Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[Carolina de la Guardia]

As a picture is worth a thousand words, here it is a link to a Spanish 
lace supplier, who sells all type of pillows, now used in Spain:


http://www.boixet.com/index.php?cPath=22language=en

The traditional one is the straw long vertical bolster pillow, it is 
intended to work straight long laces. They can be of different 
diameters, depending on the wideness of the lace to be worked. Usually 
we support them against a wall and/or a table.


 http://www.boixet.com/index.php?cPath=22_52

In Galicia (north of Spain) varies slightly the shape, being more wide 
and some times half bolster pillow, with two sticks on the top to better 
support and recline on a table.


In the South West of the country lacemakers who work tape laces, they 
use a shorter bolster pillow, similar to Italian and Slovenian ones with 
a horizontal wooden support.


Nowadays polystyrene is also very often used, overall when a large shawl 
or runner is in process, as well as round pillows.


All weekends in Springtime and Summer you can find lace days all over 
the country sometimes in little villages, where it is usual to find a 
Civic centre where aged people make laces as a pastime.

 Here there is another link to another lace day, this in Alcanar (Valencia)
http://tinyurl.com/bt48g8q



I'm sure our Spanish lacemakers will join in this discussion.
Laura Sandison
New Mexico, USA


Carolina de la Guardia
http://www.carolgallego.com


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Re: Spanish Lace Pillow Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[AGlez]

Hello all those interested in Spanish lace,

Sorry for not having got in touch before. But I have a good excuse: I have
been at the Diada of Arenys, and afterwards took a few days off at the
Mediterranean coast.

As Carolina has already told you, in Spain there are now so many lace
meetings, that it is sometimes difficult to choose which one to attend. Not
all of them are interesting. It all depends on what you are looking for.

The Diada of Catalonia is, evidently, the most interesting of all, not only
because of the number of participants, but also because it has an
international presence. For example, in Arenys we could see an exhibition
of important lace centers of Europe, such as Peniche (Portugal), Bobowa
(Poland), Idrija (Eslovenia), France (sorry, but can't remember now which
lace center was there!). And from Spain, our most important lacemaking
centers were there: Arenys de Mar and Arenys de Munt (with a long tradition
and a museum), L' Arboc (also long tradition, specific type of lace and
also a museum) - both in Catalonia-, Almagro (also long tradition and a
museum), Camariñas (also long tradition and museum)...

Apart from this exhibitions, and conferences and courses held in Arenys
along the whole week, the meeting itself gathers thousands of lacers from
all over Spain. They sit at those big tables you have seen in the pictures,
and make lace. Each group of lacers brings their best laces with them...

But... not all lace meetings of Spain are the same. You are only seeing a
selection of laces in these Picasa albums, usually the best pieces. But,
normally you only see lots and lots of torchon and not so well done works.

Something I like at the meetings is that there are many selling points:
here you can buy  many things you don't easily get in your local shops.


I am going to write a short text  about The Diada in my blog. Coming soon.
I will tell you about it, so that you can read and see.

Hope this answers some of your questions about lace in Spain.

Best regards from Antje, in Guadalajara, Spain.

www.vueltaycruz.es

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[Catherine Barley]

From: Lorelei Halley 


Subject: [lace] lace photos



Here are 2 albums of a lace day at Arenys:


Thank you Lorelei.  What an amazing variety of beautiful lace!

Catherine Barley
UK

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[Karen M. Zammit Manduca]

Fantastic! There are some beauties to enjoy!
Thanks for sharing!
I wish the lace days here were remotely close. Unfortunately, although we
have two lace days a year - one in Gozo and one in Malta - attendance is
nothing like the ones in Spain.
Karen in Malta.

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 From: Lorelei Halley
 Subject: [lace] lace photos



  Here are 2 albums of a lace day at Arenys:


 Thank you Lorelei.  What an amazing variety of beautiful lace!

 Catherine Barley
 UK


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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[lacelady]

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Here are 2 albums of a lace day at Arenys:

https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/DiadaDeArenys?feat=content
_notification#

https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/EscaparatesDeArenys?feat=c
ontent_notification#


Greetings,

On the first web address above, picture 141... What kind of lace is it?  I have 
an antique shawl made of this kind of lace that was labeled Milanese when I 
bought it.  However, I knew even then that it wasn't Milanese, but I've been 
puzzling ever since on exactly what it's proper name is.  It looks to me to be 
more in the family of Beds-Maltese-Cluny but doesn't quite fit the stereotype 
description of any of these.  Does anyone have an idea about it?

Both the files above have lots of lovely lace to look at, and creates a few 
wishes to have some of the patterns.  Thanks for giving us the addresses.

Alice in Oregon .. where the sun is starting to show up every four or five days 
and spring trees are in bloom.

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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[bev walker]

Hello Alice and everyone

The lace resembles other patterns I've seen in La Encajera magazine,
Spanish Guipure perhaps?

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 https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/DiadaDeArenys?feat=content
 _notification#

 On the first web address above, picture 141... What kind of lace is it?  I
 have an antique shawl made of this kind of lace that was labeled


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[Katelyn Schreyer]

I do notice that Spanish lacemakers tend to use a completly different sort
of pillow - a sort of very large half-bolster.

Has anyone use one of these? What do you think?

I also noticed in several of the pictures the patterns had a website
address on them: http://www.patronsroka.com/index.php?cPath=81

Patterns and pillows and fansticks!

Katelyn Schreyer
krschre...@gmail.com


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 Here are 2 albums of a lace day at Arenys:

 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/DiadaDeArenys?feat=content
 _notification#

 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/EscaparatesDeArenys?feat=c
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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[Carolina de la Guardia]

Hello Alice and all,

Every year, (in a different city) takes place in Catalonia the Lace Day 
Event La Diada de la puntaire that is The lacemakers Great Day. It 
is organized by the Catalonian Lace Association-ACP, and this year the 
demonstration was the 29nth April in Arenys de Mar, city with a great 
lace tradition.


Other activities that we had the opportunity to enjoy were:
A fashion show. An international participation with stands from Hungary, 
Idrija, Slovaquia, France, and other traditional lace areas of Spain as 
Camariñas, Almagro, Arboç, Arenys de Munt and Arenys de Mar. Also, an 
interesting exhibition in the Mares Lace Museum.


2.300 lacemakers were participants in the Diada and up to 50 vendors.
Next year the event will take place in the city of Barcelona, probably 
26nth May, 2013.


On the first web address above, picture 141... What kind of lace is it?  I
have an antique shawl made of this kind of lace that was labeled



As Bev well says, these type of laces are the traditional guipure laces 
we make in Spain, they have a certain familiarity with Cluny laces. They 
have a plaited ground, leaves, and the outer edge ends with plaits 
forming pointed edges with picots (puntillones). Other pictures that are 
within this Spanish lace are: 73, 79, 100, 104 and 140.


Greetings from Barcelona. Spain

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Spanish Lace Pillow Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[La]

Hi Katelyn,
 
I'm sure our Spanish lacemakers will join in this discussion. As
a primary user of cookie and Honiton pillows, I have used the Spanish bolster.
I used to demonstrate at a Spanish colonial/territorial living history museum
and made lace on the bolster. There were a few challenges, mostly bobbin
control, but it worked out.  I felt like a nine armed klutz that couldn't
control myself.  Eventually, with the hours of practice and peaceful setting,
it became second nature. Try it!  It's fun!
 
Laura Sandison
New Mexico, USA

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Barbara Engle.]

Lorelei...Thank you for  the many photos you share with us.   It seems each 
is better than the ones before!  

I LOVE seeing them all.
Smiles and Hugs, BarbE

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 https://picasaweb.google.com/110476155563856600497/EscaparatesDeArenys?feat=c
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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[Karen M. Zammit Manduca]

I think it looks more like Cluny in style. It has many of the elements that
I learned when taking a short course in Basic Cluny lace.
Karen in Malta


On the first web address above, picture 141... What kind of lace is it?

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Re: [lace] lace photos - what is it?

[Karen M. Zammit Manduca]

I think that type of pillow is only used in Spain, though I have made one
for myself (a bit more round though) as I don't like to use the Maltese
bolster at all. Before someone on Arachne mentioned using pillows filled
with polystyrene to stop pillows rolling around, I couldn't bear mine
moving all over the placeand I hated sitting in the corner to work!
Karen in Malta






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RE: [lace] lace photos

[Bridget Marrow]

Dear Lorelei and other spidersthank you so much for posting the link to Iva
Proskova's wonderful lace.  I was privileged to take a class with her when
OIDFA was in Prague in 2004.  She was an inspiring teacher, encouraging us to
follow our design instincts whether small or large scale - I came away with a
pretty pendant and lots of ideas.  Some of the class designed shawls!  Happy
memories.Bridget, in Pinner, where its turned cold again.

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[Ilske Thomsen]

Yes, she has a shop. But, as I know, she doesn't sell patterns but things 
chance.

Ilske

  It looks like she has a shop with patterns and threads. Wish I could read it.

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[Noelene Lafferty]

Cynthia, at the bottom of the na uvod page are three flags - if you click
on the Union Jack, you get an English translation.

nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
Did you click on na uvod? It looks like she has a shop with patterns and
threads. Wish I could read it.

Cynthia

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[Cynce Williams]

Wheee

Once you click on the Union Jack, lower left just under the duck/butterfly 
lace, at the top of that column is Internet Shop. In the left hand column you 
can change the currency. What a lplace to get in trouble!

Cynthia 


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 Cynthia, at the bottom of the na uvod page are three flags - if you click
 on the Union Jack, you get an English translation.
 
 nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
 Did you click on na uvod? It looks like she has a shop with patterns and
 threads. Wish I could read it.
 
 Cynthia
 
 

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[bev walker]

Hello Lorelei and everyone

Thank you for the link. I thought the name was familiar, that I had seen
only recently, and yes, this lace artist is featured in the new magazine
from Spain, Vuelta y Cruz. I had ordered a subscription, and my copies
arrived - Christmas present to myself :)

The original lace works are all the more interesting when one discovers she
is self-taught.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.comwrote:

 Here are some original bobbin lace works by a lace artist:

 https://plus.google.com/photos/115120571016239626100/albums/53222317817913946

 57/568773409433266?banner=pwa#photos/115120571016239626100/albums/5322231
 781791394657/569711271758914https://plus.google.com/photos/115120571016239626100/albums/53222317817913946%0A57/568773409433266?banner=pwa#photos/115120571016239626100/albums/5322231%0A781791394657/569711271758914



-- 
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[Noelene Lafferty]

Wow Lorelei, I wish I was young again and could wear lace like this!

The plain text broke your link into two lines, so I've made a Tiny URL for
it for others to use:
http://tinyurl.com/3bfze94

I've found the best way to quickly get to a site where Arachne has broken
the link into two lines, is to hit reply, and then run my cursor over the
whole link, copy that, then go to my internet program and paste it all into
the box.   Then delete the reply message.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

https://picasaweb.google.com/116200831956256846396/AlinaJaskova?feat=content
_notification#   Contemporary style neck laces.
 
 Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Carolina de la Guardia]

This is something I can say too. Internet was my way to discover the 
world of laces (10 years ago now). Here in Spain, without books only a 
few people knew about the different techniques existing around Europe.

A great and pleasant discover!

Carolina de la Guardia

http://www.carolgallego.com
Witch Stitch Lace



El 18/03/2011 21:19, Lorelei Halley escribió:

All the photos posted on picasa by Spanish speaking lacemakers has given me a
window into the world of Spanish lacemaking.  And prior to that, I had no idea
at all.  The internet has made so much possible and easy, that wasn't before.

Lorelei



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[Carolina de la Guardia]

Well, I think I can put my two cents in this discussion

Here in Spain we talk of encaje popular this is popular lace, what 
you you call continental guipure. This is really a type of Cluny lace. 
Camariñas on the North and Almagro on the centre of Spain are the most 
representative villages of this technique.


I understand Torchon lace, as a geometrical lace that in the origin had 
not guipures (leaves and tallies). Here in Spain, we have mixed the 
geometrical lace (ground and motifs) with guipures, plaits only on the 
border and, in many occasions a gimp outlining floral motifs. This is a 
way of not being so bored, and get richer the original torchon which is 
quite limited when designing. On the other hand, perhaps a way to look 
like the blonda, made in Catalunya since 1800.
Torchon grounds are made in different ways, depending on the area. In 
Catalunya, we usually work it as: tt c tt pin c tt, being the result a 
round hole.


In others parts of Spain, it is made: tt  wholestitch pin wholestitch tt
(I think it is called by Bridget Cook, as torchon double ground).

This last, is the way that I understand is worked the piece that 
Lorellei has shown us. I know the lady that has worked the piece. She is 
living in the North of Spain, in Galicia, where the torchon ground is 
made in this way.


The lace in Spain, is very difficult to settle, the terminology is 
different North / Centre, East and South, the way of working is 
different too, even the name given to the lace tools, for example the 
most basic: Bobbins, they can be named as: Boixets, palillos, bolillos...


Kind regards from a sunny Barcelona

Carolina de la Guardia

http://www.carolgallego.com
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El 18/03/2011 4:22, dmt11h...@aol.com escribió:

I suggested to Lorelei that the ground in the pictures was whole stitch pin
  whole stitch and she replied that that was what she meant by Brussels
ground.
I am not very good with ground names because I find that stitch
descriptions are more accurate. But, I went to Cassell illustrated Dictionary of
Lacemaking and they claim that the Brussels ground is a droschel ground.
According to the book, Each hexagon consists of two vertical plaits of six or
seven half stitches, followed by an extra twist on each pair so that the
diagonal pairs linking the plaits have a total of two twists.   The  term is
sometimes erroneously applied to Mechlin ground, a lace with a similar  ground
although having a shorter plaits.
If one were to do wholestitch pin wholestitch or some variation of that,
ie. Wholestich pin linen stitch, one might get the same number of crosses and
  twists, which is kind of an interesting realization that I had not thought
of.  But I believe that Brussels and Mechlin are actually worked as plaits,
and I  don't think they have a pin in the middle of the plait. In fact,
although I have  never done it myself, I was under the impression that it was
worked without pins  at all.
I feel that the picture looks as though there is a distinct pin hole  in
the middle of the ground stitch, or plait, if you will. Whether this is
achieved with a single twist, or a double twist around the pin I don't know, and
I don't know what it is called.
What are the common names for grounds? I just looked up Dieppe ground, a
name I recall, and it is half stitch pin half stitch. Spanish ground is half
stitch twist pin half stitch and twist, according to Cassel, resulting in
two  twists around the pin, which is sort of noticeable, and which I might
consider  to be a candidate if the picture on picassa was clearer. Also the
picture seems  to be accompanied by a Spanish language caption, but I don't
know if there  if there is any real association between Spanish lace and the
use of the Spanish  stitch. I think that neither of these grounds would be
inconsistent with  what Lorelei notes as looking like a torchon lace.
However, the thought process has gotten me to thinking about ground names.
Is there any place where you can find all the ground names grouped together
with  all the variations in names? And is there any significance to the use
of  varioius torchon grounds? I realize that Brussels, Mechlin,
Valenciennes, etc,  are chiefly identified by the grounds, but there are a lot 
of other
  grounds.
Thanks Lorelei, for opening this line of inquiry.
Devon

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[AGlez]

Hello all,

As a Spanish lacer, I also want to make my small contribution to this
discussion.

Apart from what Carolina has said, there is also a tendency in Spain to take
a pattern or design (which here normally has no instructions on how to make
it), and work it in a free manner. So, you cannot trust, in fact, if this is
a lace from here or there.

The flower motif reminds me of the laces made in Almagro (Ciudad Real), a
very important lace center in Spain. But.. neither the Brussels ground nor
the outside picots are made in this region. So, I would say this hanky of
picasa is a personal interpretation of a pattern.


Best regards,

Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain.

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[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello Everybody,
here in Germany we learn the Torchon-grounds like this:
1.) the simple one  or Löcherschlag  ct p ct or half stitich p half stitch
 all green 
2.) Dieppe ground ct p ctt  orange
3.) Brussels ground  ctct p ctct or in German Ganzschlag p Ganzschlag
 all red
4.) gezwirnter oder gedrehter Löcherschlag, sorry I can't translate this   
correctly  ctt p ctt
 all brown

Ilske

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[Dmt11home]

I second the thanks.
The Spanish lacemakers seem to be very prolific, and yet, we don't have as  
much information about them and their work as we would like.
Devon
 
 
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Carolina, Antje and Ilske
Thanks for your interesting  contributions to the discussion.  Carolina has
given much more  information than I knew of.
Lorelei

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[Dmt11home]

Could it be that the ground is whole stitch pin whole stitch? 
Devon
 
 
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lhal...@bytemeusa.com writes:

I just  came across this piece just added to picasa recently.  The  ground
appears to be Mechlin or Brussels.  But the style isn't  anything like the
modern lace called Mechlin.  So I'm wondering if the  structure is more like
floral torchon.  This shot is the whole object,  the following one is  a
detail.
https://picasaweb.google.com/leboreira/MisNinas20102011?feat=content_notific
a
tion#5584669201397201858

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[lynrbailey]

This one was really interesting because it shows the creative process.  Not 
being inherently creative, such a progression of pictures explains so much.  lrb


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From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com
Sent: Jan 26, 2011 1:14 AM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] lace photos

Here is an interesting way to depict the long feathers on a bird's wing:
http://picasaweb.google.com/bistrichka/aYLDQI#

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Sue Babbs]

And on this site, there is an amazing piece full of leaves:
http://picasaweb.google.com/116123880781256601574/201002#5554724157628063074

The comments below it suggests that the work is done by high school 
students! See:
This degree of high school students of folk arts in the city of St. 
Petersburg. Woven from flax.


Sue

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From: Lorelei Halley


Here are some Russian (I think) bobbinlace clothes, evening wear.
http://picasaweb.google.com/116123880781256601574/201002#

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Claire Allen]

I saw that one too. The texture from all those packed together leaves is 
beautiful.

So evenly sized and shaped too.


Claire Allen
www.bonitocrafts.co.uk
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On 24 Jan 2011, at 20:39, Sue Babbs wrote:

 And on this site, there is an amazing piece full of leaves:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/116123880781256601574/201002#5554724157628063074
 

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[Clay Blackwell]

Well, now I feel positively, absolutely inadequate!  What stunning work!!!

Clay

On 1/24/2011 2:44 PM, Lorelei Halley wrote:

Hello
Here are some Russian (I think) bobbinlace clothes, evening wear.
http://picasaweb.google.com/116123880781256601574/201002#


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Re: [lace] lace photos

[lynrbailey]

Fascinating pictures.  Lovely lace, done a bit differently, or at least from a 
slightly different point of view.  Thanks for pointing it out.  I'm wondering 
about the orange pricking card, which is used several times, as I thought we 
used things on the pillow that were easy on the eyes, like blue and green, or 
the perennial tan pricking card.  Different ideas provide inspiration, and also 
teach us that there's more than one way to do things.  lrb


-Original Message-
From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com
Sent: Jan 17, 2011 10:18 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] lace photos

This album has several interesting pieces of embroidery on hexagonal net,
using 2 layers of net: black and white.  It also has a wildly colorful tatted
collar.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Tere.juli07/EncuentroEnCanals15101?feat=content_n
otification#

Lorelei

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[Clay Blackwell]

When Astrid Hansen's Femten Bredere:  Tonderkniplinger came out, I 
remember how surprised many of us were to find that the printed 
prickings in the book were on red card!  I thought it would be very hard 
on the eyes.  But apparently it was traditional in Tonder lace to use 
this color card.  A friend was able to scan the prickings and print them 
so they have a white background.  But I'm happy to have learned this 
interesting bit about Tonder!


Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA



On 1/18/2011 9:24 AM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote:

Fascinating pictures.  Lovely lace, done a bit differently, or at least from a 
slightly different point of view.  Thanks for pointing it out.  I'm wondering 
about the orange pricking card, which is used several times, as I thought we 
used things on the pillow that were easy on the eyes, like blue and green, or 
the perennial tan pricking card.  Different ideas provide inspiration, and also 
teach us that there's more than one way to do things.  lrb


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From: Lorelei Halleylhal...@bytemeusa.com
Sent: Jan 17, 2011 10:18 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] lace photos

This album has several interesting pieces of embroidery on hexagonal net,
using 2 layers of net: black and white.  It also has a wildly colorful tatted
collar.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Tere.juli07/EncuentroEnCanals15101?feat=content_n
otification#

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace photos (red prickings)

[Roberta S Donnelly]

My understanding is that it is hard to copy prickings on red. 
So to 'protect' the pattern and designer they published it on red.
bobbi

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:28:54 +0100 Carolina de la Guardia
carolina...@aol.com writes:
 For as long as I can remember, in Spain have been used orange card 
 prickings. An especial thicker card (now practically disappeared) 
 was 
 manufactured for working bobbin lace. Its thickness let the 
 lacemakers 
 work several times the same pattern.
 I don't know the reason for choosing this colour, however it never 
 have 
 produced me tiredness.
 
 Carolina de la Guardia
 
 http://www.carolgallego.com
 Witch Stitch Lace
 
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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Carol]

I can remember, many years ago, buying lots of Debbie Moller's patterns 
(alphabets, initials et al) and they were very often printed on red paper. 
I wondered at the time whether it was to stop illegal copying, as many 
photocopiers at that time - we are talking about twenty years ago, if not 
more - couldn't cope with very definite colours like red, dark blue and dark 
green.I know when the company for which I worked purchased an 
all-singing, all dancing, bells and whistles copier, which was the most 
up-to-date thing on the planet, I was asked if I'd like to photocopy some of 
these patterns on the copier, to see how well it performed.I think they 
regretted it, as after that, every strongly coloured pricking I bought, I 
asked if I could copy for myself, so that the purchased ones stayed pristine 
...


Carol - Suffolk UK
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'
Subject: Re: [lace] lace photos


I
remember how surprised many of us were to find that the printed prickings 
in the book were on red card! 


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Re: [lace] lace photos

[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello everybody,
as I still explained Lorelei here

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/perignon/3501864990/in/pool-bobbinlace

you see works from the German group of lacemakers around Barbara  
Saupe. we did these in a seminar with the title Jugendstil. Works done  
in such seminars we show on our congress of the next year after. Those  
were shown in Neumarkt and journalist from the newspaper there made  
lots of photos and put them on internet not secured, and offered  
people to load them down etc. But he didn't ask if we allow this. So I  
had a long quarrel with him about copyright. At last he took the  
pictures away but at that time they were still everywhere.

Ilske, just back  from another seminar and in a big Advent hurry

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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Carol Adkinson]

Hi Spiders,

Talking about cameras etc., our son gave us a little tripod stand which
screws into the camera, not a huge great thing, but one with little legs
about four inches long.   It is ideal for photographing lace, and things
which are relatively close, but need absolutely no movement.   I don't know
where he acquired it, but I don't think it could have been expensive, as it
was just a sort of 'anytime' present, not a Christmas, birthday etc!

Maybe that would be a good idea for those who photograph their lace .

Carol - in Suffolk UK

- Original Message - 
From: Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Lace photos

 I lay my stuff on the floor next to the glass door on a
 sunny day.  Last time, I moved in a little table and covered
 it with black velvet.  (
  When I do this, it is important to brace myself against
  something stationary, as the slightest vibration will
  ruin the picture.  I don't have a tripod which would
  extend over the pillow, but that would be the ideal
  solution.


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[clayblackwell]

Thanks, Carol, for posting this!  It reminded me of a gadget I spotted before 
Christmas.  It is a very small tripod that screws into the bottom of the 
camera, but the legs are flexible so that you can bend them.  The will wrap 
around stationary objects so you can mount a camera on the back of a chair or 
something like that.  If I remember correctly, it is coated with a rubbery 
substance that keeps it from sliding or from damaging whatever you wrap it 
around.  Seems to me these might be excellent for our purposes!  It was also 
not expensive.

Clay


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From: Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Spiders,
 
 Talking about cameras etc., our son gave us a little tripod stand which
 screws into the camera, not a huge great thing, but one with little legs
 about four inches long.   It is ideal for photographing lace, and things
 which are relatively close, but need absolutely no movement.   I don't know
 where he acquired it, but I don't think it could have been expensive, as it
 was just a sort of 'anytime' present, not a Christmas, birthday etc!
 
 Maybe that would be a good idea for those who photograph their lace .
 
 Carol - in Suffolk UK
 

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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Barron]

Thanks, Carol, for posting this!  It reminded me of a gadget I spotted before
Christmas.  It is a very small tripod that screws into the bottom of the
camera, but the legs are flexible so that you can bend them.  The will wrap
around stationary objects so you can mount a camera on the back of a chair or
something like that.  


just found this on line - I'd like it for the name if
nothing else
http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/gorilla-pods/index.html?CMP=KNC-google1

jenny
barron
Scotland

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RE: [lace] Lace photos

[Sue]

Again thanks to all who have helped me in my quest to get a decent
image.  I have printed out all the replies and am going to try them all
out to see which best suits.
Thanks
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
Where the snow has turned to rain and the dogs are drying themselves off
by the fire.


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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Joy Beeson]

On 2/9/07 7:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I use a nice Ott-light (floor stand) at my pillow.


I lay my stuff on the floor next to the glass door on a
sunny day.  Last time, I moved in a little table and covered
it with black velvet.  (I got a yard of cotton velvet as a
premium with a large order of fabric, and have finally
thought up a use for it.)



When I do this, it is important to brace myself against
something stationary, as the slightest vibration will
ruin the picture.  I don't have a tripod which would
extend over the pillow, but that would be the ideal
solution.


After moving my latest pictures from his camera to my
computer, DH pulled a drill-press stand out of his closet
and showed me how to screw the camera onto it.  (Haven't
pressed my tatting yet, so I haven't tried the idea.)  It 
may be that you can get a comparatively-cheap gadget for

attaching your camera to something you already have.  You
also need a cable release so you can trigger the camera
without pushing on it.  (Gah!  I know where the drill-press
stand is, but not the cable release.  I'm not even sure I
would *recognize* it.)

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[clayblackwell]

Excellent ideas, Joy!!  

But after checking my digital camera, I don't see a place to attach a shutter 
release...  but perhaps putting the shutter on a timed release (built into most 
digital cameras...?)

Clay

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From: Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 On 2/9/07 7:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  I use a nice Ott-light (floor stand) at my pillow. 
 
 I lay my stuff on the floor next to the glass door on a 
 sunny day. Last time, I moved in a little table and covered 
 it with black velvet. (I got a yard of cotton velvet as a 
 premium with a large order of fabric, and have finally 
 thought up a use for it.) 
 
 
  When I do this, it is important to brace myself against 
  something stationary, as the slightest vibration will 
  ruin the picture. I don't have a tripod which would 
  extend over the pillow, but that would be the ideal 
  solution. 
 
 After moving my latest pictures from his camera to my 
 computer, DH pulled a drill-press stand out of his closet 
 and showed me how to screw the camera onto it. (Haven't 
 pressed my tatting yet, so I haven't tried the idea.) It 
 may be that you can get a comparatively-cheap gadget for 
 attaching your camera to something you already have. You 
 also need a cable release so you can trigger the camera 
 without pushing on it. (Gah! I know where the drill-press 
 stand is, but not the cable release. I'm not even sure I 
 would *recognize* it.) 
 
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 http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ 
 http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ 
 http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange 
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 west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. 
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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[clayblackwell]

Hi Sue - and other northern hemisphere spiders who are trying to stay warm!!

I've tried numerous ways to photograph my lace with varying results.  The best 
way I've found is to actually scan it with a dark paper behind it.  This 
eliminates the problems caused by shadows, over- or under- exposure, flash 
burn, camera wiggle, etc.  

However, there are times that I want to photograph the lace while it is still 
on the pillow, and the challenges in that, as you know, are significant.  Since 
I now use a digital camera, my observations relate to that, and may not apply 
to film cameras.

I have found that using a flash creates more problems than it solves.  It 
overexposes the lace which means you lose detail.  In some cases, it creates a 
distracting level of shadow.  And it tends to flatten the image, giving the 
background as much emphasis as the lace.

I use a nice Ott-light (floor stand) at my pillow.  I especially like it 
because it has a 27watt tube which is about 18 long.  It is positioned at 2:00 
at my pillow, and the tube extends over the pillow diagonally to about 8:00.  
This provides wonderful light that cancels out much of the shadows created by 
pins and even the threads themselves.  

So when I take a picture at the pillow, I turn the light on, and use no flash.  
And I often use the micro setting on the camera so I can get a good close-up.  
When I do this, it is important to brace myself against something stationary, 
as the slightest vibration will ruin the picture.  I don't have a tripod which 
would extend over the pillow, but that would be the ideal solution.  The trick 
in getting those close-ups is to get close enough to the lace to take the 
picture, but not get between the light and the lace!

Another option that I have used when I can't seem to get the close-up I want is 
to increase the resolution to a much higher level.  Then, when I download the 
file, I can crop out the unwanted stuff and the portion of the picture that I 
want to keep can be enlarged without becoming pixillated (sp?).

But the hands-down best way to get clear, clean images of your lace is to scan 
it.

Clay

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From: Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Hello Spiders, 
 Its very quiet on the list tonight, are you all busy making lace? I have 
 been for most of the day as the weather has been awful although we did 
 not get the amount of snow that the rest of the country got, while I 
 have been lacing I have been thinking about putting some lace on the 
 webshots, to date the way that I have photographed some of mine has not 
 been very succesful, what is the best angle, light, background etc. any 
 ideas? 
 Sue M Harvey 
 Snowy Norfolk UK 
 
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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Steph Peters]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:25:47 -, Sue wrote:
I have been thinking about putting some lace on the
webshots, to date the way that I have photographed some  of mine has not
been very succesful, what is the best angle, light, background etc. any
ideas?

A few brief thoughts - I have a cold and am working on half a brain today.
Daylight is better than flash, but in England in winter you'll probably have
to settle for flash.   Pick background so that it isn't too high a contrast
to the lace, so for white lace don't use anything too dark, mid blue can be
good.
If your piece is small enough then skip the photo stage and just scan it
instead.
Take a look on my website for some examples that may help.

When you have got a photo, then you have half the job done, but only half.
Even an image from a digital camera needs some more work before using it on
a computer.  (Grandparents who send 40Mb pictures of their new grandchild to
everyone in their address book, including some on dialup, should have their
computer confiscated!)

There's some advice about this on my website:
Beginners Guide to Computer Images
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/comppic/begin.htm
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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello Sue,
The photos I will send by mail or put into our album I take always with 
my dig. camera. The problem is that here in Hamburg the sun doesn't 
shine always . I want to say I do it by good light that the flash will 
not work. With flash you get lightspots or shadows or other bad 
reactions.

Is the photo ok I can send it.
The other way is to take scans. If one will do it from photos those 
must be absolutly good. Is it lace or other such stuff, I lay it on 
red or violet colored paper. In my opinion it's better than black. Take 
a high, wouw what's that in English sorry I don't know and I can't find 
a word which fits in my dictionary, sorry.

Hope it helps anyway
Greetings

Ilske

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[bevw]

Hi Sue and everyone
In addition to the excellent advice already posted, if all else fails and
there is a place nearby that does colour photocopying - get a colour
photocopy done of your lace, and scan the copy for the image you want to
post on the web. The colour scanners have good lenses and often the colour
copies look just like the real thing. Shadows don't seem to be much of a
problem if there is an appropriate background - navy or light blue is
usually good.

Lightly stitch your lace to a background fabric, and afix that to paper or
light card in some unobtrusive way so that the clerk can place it readily
onto the copier bed. Your second generation image can then be scanned at a
low resolution for posting to the web. Plus you have a paper record of your
lace, if you are going to give it away :)

-- 
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Lace photos

[Weronika Patena]

Ah, yes, I found them a few minutes ago and was wondering why there
isn't an email telling us they're there g.
I love Beds lace even more now after seeing some of your great pieces.  

Given that I like it so much, you'd think I'd finally get around to
actually making some Beds, but Torchon is just to fast to make, I can't
stop coming up with new ideas!

Weronika

On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 03:59:40PM +1000, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:
 Well, I have managed to get some photos of my lace up on the Arachne web
 page.
 Many thanks to Patti who sent me such good instructions.  I won't say it
 was a breeeze, but at least I got there in the end!!! :))
 
 My John Bull Trophy entry is there , lower down the page- the Gros Point
 flower spray, with the plaited ribbon frame  on a burgundy coloured mount.
 
 from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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