Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Graham
- Original Message -
  From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented 
ancestors.
Rich in LA CA


Ah. Ok...well I am very glad I have no connection to Royals ;-) My lot 
is hard enough as it is. Thanks Rich.

Regards, Graham



--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au wrote:


  From: Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM


  
  Hello all,

  I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their 
family tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have 
roughly 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as 
twigs, rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the 
quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the 
further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information 
becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather 
more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size 
of families comes into it, but am I missing something here?

  Regards, Graham


  - Original Message -
From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010


It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before 
deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous 
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Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 Ron,
 I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on 
my 5th
 Great-Grandmother.
 It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if 
I
 change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
 Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so 
not
 sure what it counts.
 --
 Richard Van Wasshnova
 http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
 http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
 ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
wrote:

 Leo,

 Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit 
using File
 MenuExit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. 
Windows
 offers no
 guarantees that exiting using the X will do this.

 I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I 
have not
 tried
 it with 27000 records!

 Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Where to store my scans?

2010-04-28 Thread Wendy Howard
I've started directing my backup files to my Dropbox folder.  I don't
normally back up the multimedia files when I backup my Legacy file, but
did so when I started this habit just so there was a copy there for
safekeeping (as well as other backups elsewhere).  Having the files in
Dropbox means that I have the latest backup available where-ever I am,
as long as I can get online, and a copy is automatically transferred to
my other computer straight away (or as soon as it gets online if it
isn't at that moment).

For my family history stuff, I have a folder under Documents (the Vista
equivalent of XP's My Documents) called Family Documents.  Under that
there are folders called Correspondence, Documents, Photos,
Transcriptions, etc.  Within each of those folder, where numbers have
necessitated further splitting, there's a folder for each of my parents
surnames.

Within the various folders, files have names that make it quick and easy
to find what I want. Documents start with the name of the party
concerned, then the date and type of event.  Census images get named by
their file reference, with the name I'm interested in in brackets at the
end.  Correspondence is named by date then name.

Documents
|---Family Documents
| |---Census
|  |---Dad
|   |---1861 RG9 3561 f121 p7(Thomas PLAYFORTH)
|  |---Mum
| |---Correspondence
|  |---Dad
|   |---2009-07-31 email from John DOE
|  |---Mum
| |---Documents
|  |---Dad
|   |---SMITH John Doe, 1887-08, birth certificate
|  |---Mum
...etc

1887-08 being August 1887, to force sorting into date order within the
same name.  2009-07-31 means 31 July 2009, also to force sorting by
date of the document.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Ron Ferguson
Rich,

I don't think that they are any different from any other family, except that
their trees are more readily available. The number of descendants which one
has available depends on how many generations one goes back and which
non-direct line ancestors one wishes to include.

Status is not relevent. After around 10years research I have some 4000
relatives ie those with a connection to my family, no matter how distant.
Where very large files are likely to be more more common are with One-Name
studies, especially when many people are contributing their research.

In my view, many number counters simply download trees from, say Ancestry,
without checking each record to ensure its accuracy and present it as their
own work. To my mind this is not genealogy, and I certainly would not find
any satisfaction in doing this. A tree of 2000 well researched and
documented individuals is much more valuable historically, and to the family
involved.

So, Graham, I agree with you. You are missing nothing and probably have a
much superior tree than number crunchers. However, I am not suggesting that
all large trees may be defective, just many of them!

Ron Ferguson
_

Completely rewritten and revised:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England


- Original Message -
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 28 April 2010 04:35
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April
2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented ancestors.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au wrote:


From: Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April
2010
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM



Hello all,

I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their family
tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have roughly
2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as twigs,
rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the
quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the
further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information
becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but
rather more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess
the size of families comes into it, but am I missing something here?

Regards, Graham


- Original Message -
From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April
2010


It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 Ron,
 I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on my 5th
 Great-Grandmother.
 It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if I
 change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
 Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so not
 sure what it counts.
 --
 Richard Van Wasshnova
 http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
 http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
 ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Leo,

 Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using
 File
 MenuExit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
 offers no
 guarantees that exiting using the X will do this.

 I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not
 tried
 it with 27000 records!

 Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Reg SHERLOCK
Hello Graham, It is very easy to exceed 20,000 if you do an extended family 
lines tree instead of a pure bloodline. Reg oh isn't genealogy fun.





From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


- Original Message -
  From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented 
ancestors.
Rich in LA CA


Ah. Ok...well I am very glad I have no connection to Royals ;-) My lot 
is hard enough as it is. Thanks Rich.

Regards, Graham



--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au wrote:


  From: Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM


  
  Hello all,

  I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their 
family tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have 
roughly 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as 
twigs, rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the 
quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the 
further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information 
becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather 
more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size 
of families comes into it, but am I missing something here?

  Regards, Graham


  - Original Message -
From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010


It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before 
deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous 
correspondence.
Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 Ron,
 I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on 
my 5th
 Great-Grandmother.
 It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if 
I
 change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
 Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so 
not
 sure what it counts.
 --
 Richard Van Wasshnova
 http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
 http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
 ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
wrote:

 Leo,

 Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit 
using File
 MenuExit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. 
Windows
 offers no
 guarantees that exiting using the X will do this.

 I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I 
have not
 tried
 it with 27000 records!

 Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I agree completely. I have in the past been put down by someone who implied 
that I had too many people, I MUST have cheated somehow. (Their words)
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:37 PM
 Rich,

 I don't think that they are any different from any other
 family, except that
 their trees are more readily available. The number of
 descendants which one
 has available depends on how many generations one goes back
 and which
 non-direct line ancestors one wishes to include.

 Status is not relevent. After around 10years research I
 have some 4000
 relatives ie those with a connection to my family, no
 matter how distant.
 Where very large files are likely to be more more common
 are with One-Name
 studies, especially when many people are contributing their
 research.

 In my view, many number counters simply download trees
 from, say Ancestry,
 without checking each record to ensure its accuracy and
 present it as their
 own work. To my mind this is not genealogy, and I certainly
 would not find
 any satisfaction in doing this. A tree of 2000 well
 researched and
 documented individuals is much more valuable historically,
 and to the family
 involved.

 So, Graham, I agree with you. You are missing nothing and
 probably have a
 much superior tree than number crunchers. However, I am not
 suggesting that
 all large trees may be defective, just many of them!

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 

 - Original Message -
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: 28 April 2010 04:35
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
 Build - 25 April
 2010


 Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000
 documented ancestors.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
 wrote:


 From: Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
 Build - 25 April
 2010
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM


 
 Hello all,

 I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in
 their family
 tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now
 and have roughly
 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I
 regard as twigs,
 rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably
 happy with the
 quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what
 I have seen, the
 further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the
 information
 becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more
 people to add, but
 rather more information on the close relations that I
 already have. I guess
 the size of families comes into it, but am I missing
 something here?

 Regards, Graham


 - Original Message -
 From: Brian/Support
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
 Build - 25 April
 2010


 It counts the number of paths between people. For a large
 file like
 yours there are many many paths to check. With that many
 people try
 letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes
 before deciding
 it will not finish.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous
 correspondence.
 Thanks.

 On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
  Ron,
  I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time
 but I was on my 5th
  Great-Grandmother.
  It completes for either of my parents. It completes
 for myself if I
  change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4
 Blood.
  Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went
 to 68,000 so not
  sure what it counts.
  --
  Richard Van Wasshnova
  http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
  http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
  On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
  ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
 
      Leo,
 
      Standard Windows procedure
 when resizing a screen is to exit using
  File
      MenuExit, this should
 ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
      offers no
      guarantees that exiting using
 the X will do this.
 
      I have not found the Set
 Releationships to hang, but then I have not
      tried
      it with 27000 records!
 
      Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Laurence E Stephenson
Yes

On 28 April 2010 16:34, Belinda Cohen belindaco...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this
 release build  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
 Belinda Cohen


 
 From: Ken McGinnis kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

 We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


 Thanks

 Ken McGinnis
 Millennia Corporation
 kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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 ButtigiegTripoli, Libya
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
This is corrections and additions to the program. It is never required to do 
the download each time. Some people wait a few days to see if it had new 
problems ( not as often as in  the past), or wait until the list of changes 
gets too long, or affects what you use most. Each update includes ALL previous 
ones, so a missed one doesn't matter in the long run.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Belinda Cohen belindaco...@yahoo.com.au wrote:


From: Belinda Cohen belindaco...@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:34 PM






I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this 
release build  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
Belinda Cohen






From: Ken McGinnis kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


Thanks

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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Re: [LegacyUG] tree size

2010-04-28 Thread D MG
Same thing could be said for many Irish Catholic families also, and
I'm not just talking about 100 yearrs ago.  2 people I was in school
with in the 1970s/1980s came from large families, one of 16 siblings,
the other of 14 siblings.  In fact, the guy from the larger family was
an uncle of the guy from the smaller family!

Regards,

Dermot.




On 28 April 2010 04:40, Gene Hutson fish...@cableone.net wrote:

 and let us not forget Amish and Mennonite genealogies.

    Some families had 16 or more living children.

    Gene Hutson
     norfolk, Nebraska



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Re: [LegacyUG] weird font

2010-04-28 Thread Randy Clark
As Stan Megraw has stated, the colour of the font for husband and
wife is a pale blue
Attempts to change this either do nothing or change more than just
husband and wife.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:18 AM, stan megraw smeg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The latest fix corrected a problem where the font of the husband and wife did 
 not match the rest of the fonts in family view. I now see the colour of the 
 font for husband and wife is a pale blue. I tried the Options Colours Reset 
 to Defaults, without success. Is there another way to correct this?


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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Graham

- Original Message -
From: Reg SHERLOCK
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
April 2010


Hello Graham, It is very easy to exceed 20,000 if you do an extended
family lines tree instead of a pure bloodline. Reg oh isn't genealogy
fun.

.

Reg, I will have to believe you. I guess each to his own, but direct
lines, rather than twigs, are all that I'm interested in, otherwise
where do you draw the extended  line...so to speak. If you extend
the thousands into millions and so on...then I guess we are all
related.

As I said though...2,000 is already above my 'varification' ability.

...and thanks Ron for your input.

Regards to all, Graham

...

From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
April 2010


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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
April 2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented
ancestors.
Rich in LA CA


Ah. Ok...well I am very glad I have no connection to Royals ;-) My lot
is hard enough as it is. Thanks Rich.

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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Belinda Cohen
Thank you - I wondered because some people seemed to be having problems with it.
Belinda





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This is corrections and additions to the program. It is never required to do 
the download each time. Some people wait a few days to see if it had new 
problems ( not as often as in  the past), or wait until the list of changes 
gets too long, or affects what you use most. Each update includes ALL previous 
ones, so a missed one doesn't matter in the long run.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Belinda Cohen belindaco...@yahoo.com.au wrote:


From: Belinda Cohen belindaco...@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:34 PM


 
I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this 
release build  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
Belinda Cohen






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Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


Thanks

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[LegacyUG] People in your tree

2010-04-28 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
All of you are in another league from me.  I have 1000 names, and was
surprised to have so many.  My ancestors all flew below the radar.  Very
few owned property, none left wills, and most moved all over the place.
I have 15 Philadelphia addresses for one grandfather, plus 2 Trenton
ones, and he had children born in Lafayette, Spring Hill, and at least
one other place in Pennsylvania.  He also seems to have avoided the
census takers, and he was not the only one.  My mother lived in Lebanon
and Pittsburgh in PA,  NJ, Denver, Wyoming and Pasadena (before she was
25).  Fortunately she talked to me about where she lived.I was able
to find one line (all of whom are engineers or accountants) but the rest
are blank.  And I cannot get them across the ocean/

 Elizabeth C

Graham wrote:
 Hello all,
 I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their
 family tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and
 have roughly 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I
 regard as twigs, rather than branches, and only added as I was
 reasonably happy with the quality of research shown by my distant
 cousins. From what I have seen, the further back you go in time
 though, the more unreliable the information becomes. So now, I am not
 really looking for any more people to add, but rather more information
 on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size of
 families comes into it, but am I missing something here?
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Robert Carneal USA
You can think of it that way if you want. The developers are always
striving to correct anything users report wrong plus they will make
some improvements along the way.

You don't have to download them, but it is often best if you do.
Legacy is a real stable problem, but if you are worried about a new
version messing up your family data, that can be prevented by making
and faithful backups.

Robert

At 2010-04-28  01:34 AM, you wrote:
I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but
is this release build  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
Belinda Cohen



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Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
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Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] tree size

2010-04-28 Thread SalUDevil
I have direct ancestors, Zacharia Rice (1731-1811) and Abigail Hartman
(1742-1789), who had 21 children, all well documented.  Guestimating at  only
two children each, every twenty years would produce 21,504 people  today.
That's all from only ONE family.  It's very easy to have a  huge database.

Sally Miller Hindley

In a message dated 4/28/2010 5:05:46 AM Eastern  Daylight Time,
dmg.familyt...@gmail.com writes:
Same thing could be said for  many Irish Catholic families also, and
I'm not just talking about 100 yearrs  ago.  2 people I was in school
with in the 1970s/1980s came from large  families, one of 16 siblings,
the other of 14 siblings.  In fact, the  guy from the larger family was
an uncle of the guy from the smaller  family!

Regards,

Dermot.




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 and let  us not forget Amish and Mennonite genealogies.

 Some families had 16 or more living children.

 Gene Hutson
 norfolk, Nebraska




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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread D MG
I assume that was a freudian slip, Robert, and you meant to say that
Legacy is a real stable program and not Legacy is a real stable
problem ;-)

Regards,

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On 28 April 2010 14:13, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 You can think of it that way if you want. The developers are always striving
 to correct anything users report wrong plus they will make some improvements
 along the way.

 You don't have to download them, but it is often best if you do. Legacy is a
 real stable problem, but if you are worried about a new version messing up
 your family data, that can be prevented by making and faithful backups.

 Robert



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Re: [LegacyUG] Formatting not sticking on citation comments?

2010-04-28 Thread Scott Hall
Brian:

I sent you the following, with screenshots, to your e-mail:

The easiest way to see this is via screen shot.  Please see attached.

For the person attached I entered the birth information, hit ALT+2 to
record the Master Source.  Prompt for Detail is enabled, so the
Source Clipboard appeared.  Under Text/Comments I typed some
additional citation information, for which the citation rules require
a portion to be italicized.  (Screen shot 1).  I hightlighted the
material and clicked the italicize button.  The text, as expected,
italicized.  (Screen Shot 2).  Notice that the Output Preview changed
as well.  I clicked Add this Source Citation ...

I saved the record and noticed on the Assigned Sources screen, the
Detail Comments shows the additional text properly formatted (Screen
Shot 3).

BUT .. when I re-enter the Source Detail screen, and click the
Text/Comments tab, the formatting has been removed. (Screen Shot 4).
If I click Save again, the formatting has now been removed on the
Assigned Sources screen as well.  (Screen Shot 5).

The additional place this occurs is when entering data on another
line, say Death.  Because Legacy remembers the data in the Source
Detail clipboard, when I hit ALT+2 and the clipboard appears, all of
the information I had entered before is still there ... good, because
they came from the same source.  But, I can't simply save because the
Source Detail formatting is wrong -- in this case, the italicized
portion is no longer italicized.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Brian/Support
br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 I cannot duplicate this problem. When I saved formatted comment text for
 either the Master Source or the Source Details, copied that to the
 source clipboard and pasted the clipboard to the next data the format
 for both the Text and Comments were retained.

 Perhaps you should expand on the detail in the steps you said to use.
 Especially on how you are adding the source details when you get to the
 next data you enter.

 Brian
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 Thanks.

 On 26/04/2010 2:20 PM, Scott Hall wrote:
  Has anyone else noticed that if you enter comments in the citiation
  comments section and then apply formatting (such as italics), the next
  time you use that citation, the formatting is reset?
 
  To replicate:
  Enter data, enter source, add comments in source detail comments.
  Format comments.  Select Add these comments ...  Save.
  Enter data on differnet line, add source, note in comments formatting
  is removed.
 
  This should not occur.  If I am replicating a source, including
  comments (used to enhance citiations), the replication should be
  exactly as I first entered it.
 
  I'll add to the troubleshooting report if others see this.  I don't
  know if this is limited to the latest build.
 
  Scott
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Robert Carneal USA
OUCH!!!  I did mean to say Legacy is a real stable
program.  Apologies   to the Millennia group on my slip-up; it was
not intentional. And apologies to the group for the confusion.

Thanks for catching that, Dermot.

Robert


At 2010-04-28  08:52 AM, you wrote:
I assume that was a freudian slip, Robert, and you meant to say that
Legacy is a real stable program and not Legacy is a real stable
problem ;-)

Regards,

Dermot.

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On 28 April 2010 14:13, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote:
  You can think of it that way if you want. The developers are
 always striving
  to correct anything users report wrong plus they will make some
 improvements
  along the way.
 
  You don't have to download them, but it is often best if you do.
 Legacy is a
  real stable problem, but if you are worried about a new version messing up
  your family data, that can be prevented by making and faithful backups.
 
  Robert



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[LegacyUG] v7.4.0.39 - New General Release Build - 28 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Ken McGinnis
We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread CE Wood
Interesting how we humans do that:

My baby walked at nine months - MY baby walked at eight months!
My child read before kindergarten - MY child was reading at birth!
My genealogy has 10 million people - I may have only 1 million, but they all 
are documented by original sources (the actual certificates).

My (whatever) is bigger/better/fancier/more expensive/less expensive/more 
green/ ad infinitum than yours!

The my method is right according to me, so yours MUST be wrong, is a belief 
of those who are need the support of others because they really doubt their 
method.

And so it goes.  Legacy is great, when new builds don't ruin things that worked 
fine before, because it is SO varied that almost every method can be 
accommodated!


CE


-Original Message-
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

I agree completely. I have in the past been put down by someone who implied 
that I had too many people, I MUST have cheated somehow. (Their words)
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:37 PM
 Rich,

 I don't think that they are any different from any other
 family, except that
 their trees are more readily available. The number of
 descendants which one
 has available depends on how many generations one goes back
 and which
 non-direct line ancestors one wishes to include.

 Status is not relevent. After around 10years research I
 have some 4000
 relatives ie those with a connection to my family, no
 matter how distant.
 Where very large files are likely to be more more common
 are with One-Name
 studies, especially when many people are contributing their
 research.

 In my view, many number counters simply download trees
 from, say Ancestry,
 without checking each record to ensure its accuracy and
 present it as their
 own work. To my mind this is not genealogy, and I certainly
 would not find
 any satisfaction in doing this. A tree of 2000 well
 researched and
 documented individuals is much more valuable historically,
 and to the family
 involved.

 So, Graham, I agree with you. You are missing nothing and
 probably have a
 much superior tree than number crunchers. However, I am not
 suggesting that
 all large trees may be defective, just many of them!

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 

 - Original Message -
 From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: 28 April 2010 04:35
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
 Build - 25 April
 2010


 Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000
 documented ancestors.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
 wrote:


 From: Graham gra...@bigpond.net.au
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
 Build - 25 April
 2010
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM


 
 Hello all,

 I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in
 their family
 tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now
 and have roughly
 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I
 regard as twigs,
 rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably
 happy with the
 quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what
 I have seen, the
 further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the
 information
 becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more
 people to add, but
 rather more information on the close relations that I
 already have. I guess
 the size of families comes into it, but am I missing
 something here?

 Regards, Graham


 - Original Message -
 From: Brian/Support
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
 Build - 25 April
 2010


 It counts the number of paths between people. For a large
 file like
 yours there are many many paths to check. With that many
 people try
 letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes
 before deciding
 it will not finish.

 Brian
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 On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
  Ron,
  I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time
 but I was on my 5th
  Great-Grandmother.
  It 

RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.39 - New General Release Build - 28 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread leo macdonald

Thanks Ken,

I have installed the newest update, I ran the set Relationships function, it is 
now working properly.

My thanks to the Millennia staff for their quick response to correct the 
problem.

Leo


 From: kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.39 - New General Release Build - 28 April 2010
 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:40:37 -0600

 We have a new build. Here is a list of changes:
 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


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[LegacyUG] Build - 28 April 2010 Relationship Calc still shwing duplicate

2010-04-28 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Ken,

Thanks. Now I can run Set relationships but I still get one duplicate in
Relationship Calculator every time, 2nd and 3rd are always the same path.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova
http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Ken McGinnis
kenmcgin...@legacyusers.comwrote:

 We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


 Thanks

 Ken McGinnis
 Millennia Corporation
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 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/




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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Sherry/Support
I see a message from you was received on 26 Apr and is in the queue to be 
handled by one of our support techs.

You should hear back from someone fairly quickly.  During the first part of the 
week it takes a little longer since we need to go through the weekend emails 
before we get to the Monday emails.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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-Original Message-
From: leo macdonald [mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010



Hi Brian,

I sent in a bug report last evening but have not heard anything so far.

Prior to the latest update, when I ran the set relationships it worked fine.

I have nearly 69,000 people in my program, I have the set selationships set at 
10 Closest relationships and 0 closest paths, this will result in over 100,000 
checked paths. The counter would increase by 500 at a time and this process 
would take approximately 5 minutes.

I have run the set relationships several times since the update was installed 
yesterday, each time the program works properly until it reaches 3500, then it 
stops, hangs or freezes, whatever yuo want to call it.

I just tried it again, it went to 3500 and stopped, I waited 20 minutes and it 
was still at 3500, I clicked cancel and waited 2 minutes, nothing changed, I 
clicked cancel again, this time I noticed at the top of the set relationships 
window the following: (Not Responding).
I waited another 2 minutes then clicked cancel, after waiting another 2 minutes 
I clicked the X box on the upper right side of the set relationships window.

A new popup window with End Program came up and I clicked  the End now, this 
closed my Legacy program.

Leo





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[LegacyUG] Missing citation in Mills' book for family trees found online?

2010-04-28 Thread Scott Hall
OK, Elizabeth Shown Mills fans ... while I like Mills' book a lot, it
still seems a little light on information found online.

I can find no information on how to properly cite family trees and
GEDCOMs files published to the web.  ProGenealogists provides
guidance, but beause Legacy Source Writer's tempates are based on
Mills book and she seem to omit this source, I can't find a good
Source Writer template to use.  Even though the data extracted is a
secondary source, until it is verified and repalced with a primary
source, I want to ensure its cited properly.

For all you neurotic, gotta-get-the-citation-right researchers like
me, which template do you use?

Thanks,
Scott



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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing citation in Mills' book for family trees found online?

2010-04-28 Thread Connie Sheets
Evidence Explained should not be viewed as a cook book where one can find an 
example of each and every type of citation one would ever encounter.  It should 
be used to learn the principles of citation.  Very rarely do I find I can just 
copy an example (or use a Legacy template) exactly.  On p. 347, EE provides an 
example for Ancestral File, which is an online family tree.  The components of 
that example would apply to any type of online family tree, IMO.  Gedcom files 
are discussed on p. 157, although I believe the entire section on archives and 
artifacts, as well as the indexed references to websites are relevant.

Ask yourself what is the basic type of source you are dealing with?  My answer 
would be an online database, so I use the Internet  Database template.  
Examples:

Grace Smith, Smith Family Tree, database (public member family trees), 
Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 14 Mar 2010), entry for John Smith, 
b. 1694.  No sources are cited.

Ray Jones, Any County, Ohio Family Tree, database, Rootsweb Worldconnect 
Project (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com : accessed 14 Mar 2010), entry for 
William Harvey Jones; citing Any Co., Ohio Marriages 1811-1930, compiled by 
Miriam C. Someauthor, p. 404. The citation also references film 894.323.

Hope this helps,

Connie


Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, Elizabeth Shown Mills fans ...
 while I like Mills' book a lot, it
 still seems a little light on information found online.

 I can find no information on how to properly cite family
 trees and
 GEDCOMs files published to the web.  ProGenealogists
 provides
 guidance, but beause Legacy Source Writer's tempates are
 based on
 Mills book and she seem to omit this source, I can't find a
 good
 Source Writer template to use.  Even though the data
 extracted is a
 secondary source, until it is verified and repalced with a
 primary
 source, I want to ensure its cited properly.

 For all you neurotic, gotta-get-the-citation-right
 researchers like
 me, which template do you use?

 Thanks,
 Scott








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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing citation in Mills' book for family trees found online?

2010-04-28 Thread Dan Bateham
Hi Scott,

Doing a search in the SourceWriter templates for gedcom there is a gedcom
template that even references Mill's _EE_. However, this template does not
address online family trees, but rather addresses actual gedcom files
obtained from another researcher.

I believe that for the online family trees, the generic online database
template would work, with fields filled out to match  _EE_ as appropriate.
(see page 156 - section 3.44).

Hope this helps,
Dan Bateham


- Original Message -
From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:56 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing citation in Mills' book for family trees found
online?


OK, Elizabeth Shown Mills fans ... while I like Mills' book a lot, it
still seems a little light on information found online.

I can find no information on how to properly cite family trees and
GEDCOMs files published to the web.  ProGenealogists provides
guidance, but beause Legacy Source Writer's tempates are based on
Mills book and she seem to omit this source, I can't find a good
Source Writer template to use.  Even though the data extracted is a
secondary source, until it is verified and repalced with a primary
source, I want to ensure its cited properly.

For all you neurotic, gotta-get-the-citation-right researchers like
me, which template do you use?

Thanks,
Scott





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[LegacyUG] Charting Colors

2010-04-28 Thread Dave Keeney
Does the Mary Hill color theme mean anything in Descendency charts?
Or is that only applicable to Pedigree charts?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Charting Colors

2010-04-28 Thread Brian/Support
Dave,

You can use the Mary Hill color scheme in descendant charts. The only
people who will appear in color, however are those who are ancestors of
the starting person for the Mary Hill scheme. you cannot apply the Mary
Hill color scheme to descendants of a person.

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On 28/04/2010 10:24 PM, Dave Keeney wrote:
 Does the Mary Hill color theme mean anything in Descendency charts?
 Or is that only applicable to Pedigree charts?



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[LegacyUG] RE: New Search String for Family Search labs

2010-04-28 Thread Donald E. Paden
Is it just me or has the search string changed again?

I am now getting an error message that says:

Too many results were returned from the search to be displayed


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