Re: [LegacyUG] 1931 Canada Census

[C.G. Ouimet]

Google it ... "Canada Archives"

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C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON​


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From: mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 1931 Canada Census

 
Me too! Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist® Emeritus 2015
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 In a message dated 12/15/2023 4:20:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
magnoliaso...@gmail.com writes: 
Sorry, I seem to be missing the URL. Can you post it again? Thank you
so much for the heads up though.

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 9:01 AM Brian Kelly  wrote:
>
> I was just on the Library and Archives Canada website for a search of
> the 1871 Canada Census for a relative. I discovered that the 1931 Canada
> Census is now available for searching by name.
>
> Here is the URL of the new Multi-census search tool. You can search for
> your Canadian relatives in any or all of the Canadian censuses list on
> the search page. The 1931 Census is now included in that list and I am
> doing a genealogy happy dance because I am looking at the census page
> for my father!
>
> Here is the description of the 1931 census from Library and Archives Canada:
> "The seventh national census was taken on June 1, 1931. Information was
> further condensed into four schedules:
>
>      Schedule 1: Population
>      Schedule 2: Agriculture
>      Schedule 3: Institutions
>      Schedule 4: Merchandising and service establishments
>
> Only Schedule 1 was preserved and it had 40 questions. In the 1931
> Census three different forms of the population scheduled were used:
>
>      Form 1A for the Maritimes and Québec and Ontario
>      Form 1B for the Western provinces
>      Form 1 - N.W.T. for the Northwest Territories
>
> In one instance a rather resourceful enumerator, used an accountant’s
> ledger book to record information.
>
> The 1931 Census was the first to ask if the family owned a radio. Since
> this Census was taken during the Depression, there are also several
> questions related to unemployment, including periods of unemployment and
> causes.
>
> The sub-district names or boundaries in 1931 are not the same as those
> for 1921, particularly for large cities."
>
> Brian Kelly
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Name Question

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I use “Inconnu” for male or “Inconnue” for female ... C.G. OuimetKingston ON From: Fran MarkleSent: June 14, 2022 10:59To: Legacy User GroupSubject: [LegacyUG] Name Question What do people use when they don't know the first name or the last name? I want to be consistent, not sure if I should use Uknown, Ukn, UkFn, etc. Curious to hear what others use, thanks, Fran 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10?

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When I created my RM 8 File by importing from my Legacy 9 file, all the media links were broken. But, I discovered that it’s easy to reset all the links ... With the file open in RM 8, select the Media tab from the left. In the Multimedia window, elect the 3 dots on the right (next to the trashcan), select “Fix broken media links, then point RM to parent folder or drive where the media files here. Easy if the media files are not scattered all over ... C.G. OuimetKingston ON From: Chris HillSent: January 24, 2022 12:21To: Legacy User GroupSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10? Interesting that their website says "Roots Magic can directly import data from PAF, Legacy, TNG or Family Origins. It also imports GEDCOM files .". That would imply that it can access the Legacy database and should be able to copy the media links. BUT, their support site says that you need to generate a GEDCOM from Legacy and import that. So, which one is correct?RegardsChrisFrom my Motorola G6+ On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, 17:09 Mary Fowler Leek, <maryel...@gmail.com> wrote:If RootsMagic is installed on the same computer and your images linked in Legacy remain where they are, there will be links included in your GEDCOM file used to move your Legacy data. Once imported into RootsMagic, this program will find the images, based on the links. If you then, at some point, move or rename these linked images, you will encounter the same situation as you would in Legacy. RootsMagic, like Legacy, only links to the images. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:52 AM Gloria DeSousa <gdesou...@gmail.com> wrote:I know this is off topic, but when you migrate from Legacy to Roots Magic, is there a way to transfer everything, meaning what's in the Media Gallery? The only way I know how to transfer to another platform like Roots Magic is a gedcom and from what I understand, media does not get included. Gloria Virus-free. www.avast.com  On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 8:31 AM Mary Ann Latko Groetsema <malgroets...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, that is the platform I'll be using.  RM8 seems to be a significant improvement over RM7.  Its global search and replace feature will allow me to easily correct the spelling errors caused by the lack of unicode support in Legacy. Mary Ann Latko Groetsema On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:51 AM C.G. Ouimet <c.g.oui...@gmail.com> wrote:RootsMagic perhaps? C.G. OuimetKingston ON From: Mary Ann Latko GroetsemaSent: January 24, 2022 07:40To: Legacy User GroupSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10? Just to close the loop on my question regarding unicode and Legacy, I received this response from Legacy Customer Support... We have not been told the full features of Legacy 10 and you are correct; nothing is set in stone.  That being said, I am pretty confident that full Unicode support will not be in Legacy 10.  Full Unicode support would require a complete rewrite of Legacy using a different coding base.  I have not been told of any plans for a full rewrite in Legacy 10. So it looks like I need to migrate my tree to another platform... Mary Ann Latko Groetsema On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:19 AM John Cardinal <jfcardi...@gmail.com> wrote:Legacy users,I have a question about Legacy and GEDCOM exports.It appears that the most recent version of Legacy 9 is 9.0.0.393. I am using Legacy 9.0.0.339 so I plan to upgrade to get to the latest version. When I export a GEDCOM file, I see these records at the top that indicate the file was written by Legacy 9: 0 HEAD1 SOUR Legacy2 VERS 9.0 That seems correct. However, another Legacy user sent me a GEDCOM file with this version information: 0 HEAD1 SOUR Legacy2 VERS 10.0 Is there a Legacy 10? I looked on the LegacyFamilyTree.com site and I don't see any mention of it. John Cardinal-- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/-- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/-- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyu

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10?

[C.G. Ouimet]

RootsMagic perhaps? C.G. OuimetKingston ON From: Mary Ann Latko GroetsemaSent: January 24, 2022 07:40To: Legacy User GroupSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10? Just to close the loop on my question regarding unicode and Legacy, I received this response from Legacy Customer Support... We have not been told the full features of Legacy 10 and you are correct; nothing is set in stone.  That being said, I am pretty confident that full Unicode support will not be in Legacy 10.  Full Unicode support would require a complete rewrite of Legacy using a different coding base.  I have not been told of any plans for a full rewrite in Legacy 10. So it looks like I need to migrate my tree to another platform... Mary Ann Latko Groetsema On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:19 AM John Cardinal  wrote:Legacy users,I have a question about Legacy and GEDCOM exports.It appears that the most recent version of Legacy 9 is 9.0.0.393. I am using Legacy 9.0.0.339 so I plan to upgrade to get to the latest version. When I export a GEDCOM file, I see these records at the top that indicate the file was written by Legacy 9: 0 HEAD1 SOUR Legacy2 VERS 9.0 That seems correct. However, another Legacy user sent me a GEDCOM file with this version information: 0 HEAD1 SOUR Legacy2 VERS 10.0 Is there a Legacy 10? I looked on the LegacyFamilyTree.com site and I don't see any mention of it. John Cardinal-- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth Event

[C.G. Ouimet]

Are you creating a birth event instead of using the default birth date/place 
event?

⁣C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON​


 Original Message 
From: Margaret Gagliardi 
Sent: Thu Jul 01 15:41:44 EDT 2021
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Birth Event

No, there is nothing in the birth field.  In "Event/Fact" it has "birth" -
but nothing else - no date or place etc.  I just experimented with a person
who does not have this issue and added an Event/Fact of birth.  Now it
lights up the Event icon under that person's name. I just don't know how to
remove that Event/Fact" other then doing each person individually.  I was
just wondering if there was a way to removed all of them who do not have
any information at all.
Thanks
Margaret

On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 3:28 PM Brian Kelly  wrote:

> I tried to duplicate this without success. My Descendant Book report
> only included a birth entry if I entered actual data such as a date and
> or place. Do you have something entered in the Birth field for that
> child? Legacy would not even include a source unless there was data
> entered. I tried entering only a source in case Legacy would add Birth
> so it could use that as a placeholder for the source citation.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 01-Jul.-21 2:17 p.m., Margaret Gagliardi wrote:
> > I have a number of children who died young or that I do not have a birth
> > date for. When I run a Descendant Book report, they all come out saying
> > the child's name and then "He was born Birth".
> > How can I remove this from all these people without having to go in and
> > delete it one by one?
> > Thank you.
> > Margaret
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Titles

[C.G. Ouimet]

I generally use an Occupation event for any "short term" title ...

⁣C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON​


 Original Message 
From: Scott Hall 
Sent: Sat Jan 02 20:19:12 EST 2021
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Titles

Hi all.. I'm cleaning up my database and seeking to adhere to some
standards when presenting my data.  Right now I'm contemplating the use of
titles.

While generally I like to follow the guidance of well received guidance
books, like Mary Slawson's "Getting it Right", I'm inclined to vary from
what she proposes for certain titles.

First, all permanent titles (e.g. military, religious) are, well,
straightforward.  No need to discuss there.

But temporary titles, including religious titles like "Deacon" and, more
significantly, appointed and elected officials, are a bit more "gray area".

How do you handle them?  Regarding Deacon, I'm using the title whenever
someone held the post prior to the 20th century, as it tended to be a "for
life" type of title, religion was much more central to society, and because
many genealogy texts distinguish those with identical names by using titles
such as "Deacon".

For elected and appointed officials, I'm inclined to put "Hon." (Honorable)
in the title prefix, and include the elected or appointed office either a)
in the title suffix, or b) as an event.

For example:
* The Hon. John Adams, 2nd President of the United States
* The Hon. Samuel Adams, 4th Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts
* The Hon. William Cushing, Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court

While formally the term "The Honorable" is not use for deceased persons,
within the genealogy database it helps distinguish the individual, and
again, is common in genealogical texts.  Someone holding high office like
above is "The Honorable" for life.

Thoughts?

How do you handle this?  And do you use title suffixes, or events?

Lastly, doctors and attorneys.  Despite their prominence in early America,
I am disinclined from using a title prefix or suffix for either profession,
instead including it only as a event.




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Re: [LegacyUG] U

[C.G. Ouimet]

I agree  ...

⁣C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON​


 Original Message 
From: dougc51 
Sent: Fri Feb 14 17:54:05 EST 2020
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] U

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



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Re: [LegacyUG] import tree from Family search

[C.G. Ouimet]

Possibly 42370 doubts...

The fun part will be removing the doubts...

⁣C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON​


 Original Message 
From: Steve Ostheimer via LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Sun Feb 09 13:30:35 EST 2020
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Cc: Steve Ostheimer 
Subject: [LegacyUG] import tree from Family search

When I import a tree from Family search I will go one level up and one level 
down once I have checked Census and marriage license and birth records. I 
import that tree. Watching one of the legacy family tree webinars, it said you 
go go up 100 and down 100. So I tried up 20 and down 20 on a test Legacy tree 
and 18 hours later and 42379 family members added. I
did a family tree view and there is only one tree, How many have done this and 
can you really trust everything imported. I have douts. Thanks Steve o



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree - Virtual User's Group Meeting this Friday, July 11 (Dates, Searching and Tagging)

[C.G. Ouimet]

Why not use “Abt” or “a” for short data entry?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Howard Cady [mailto:howardc...@q.com]
Sent: July 10, 2014 05:12 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree - Virtual User's Group Meeting this 
Friday, July 11 (Dates, Searching and Tagging)



Sherry,  Perhaps I was not clear enough about my concern for “Est” as a prefix 
for dates.  Legacy version 7 was clear that “Est” is an allowed prefix in 
addition to “Abt”, “Cir”, and “Cal” for indicating uncertainty.  However, 
Legacy 8 is unclear. “Est” is no longer a listed option under 
OptionsCustomizeDates, nor is it mentioned as a prefix under HelpIndexDates 
ApproximatedPrefixes, nor is it mentioned under HelpIndexDates Entering an 
allowed prefix.  It is true that it still works as a distinct prefix from “Abt” 
etc., but I, for one, want it retained as one of the shades of uncertainty.

Howard



From: Sherry/Support mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:50 PM

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree - Virtual User's Group Meeting this 
Friday, July 11 (Dates, Searching and Tagging)



Why do you both think that Est isn't accepted? I'm using it just fine and it 
shows in the Help file as acceptable.



I don't get any Potential Problem warning, nor an error with Options   
Customize 5.5 selected.



In the Dates topic under Approximating Dates it says

When entering an estimated date, use an appropriate prefix, such as:

Estimated or Est

About or Abt

Before or Bef

After or Aft



​It could be that Geoff just accidentally left it out of the syllabus.
​



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:

Howard,



I have had no problems with using Cir, or Abt. instead of est.



I have now replaced EVERY date that is not complete with some sort of 
descriptor like abt, aft, bef, bet, cir, cal.

and I am extremely pleased with the results as it make all the sorting so much 
better (I have a rather large database with many similar names. )



I try stick to some patterns, like using Cir for a birth of a spouse based only 
upon the birth of their spouse.



I use aft  in  a marriage date as 18 yrs after the youngest spouse.

I use bef   in a marriage date when I know the birth year of a child

I use aft  in a birth date when I know the marriage year of the parents

I use bef  in a death date when I see their spouse is widowed on a census



and I use abt  when using a census date as a birth date.





Since may other software programs do not recognize EST. I look forward to fewer 
errors in exchanging ged files.



Jay





On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Howard Cady howardc...@q.com wrote:



Goeff,  I note in your Webinar notes that “Est = Estimated” has been dropped 
from allowed dates.  One of the main reasons for my switching to Legacy was 
this descriptor.  I use it especially when I know the birth dates of one or 
more children and only the names of parents, grand parents, gg-parents etc.  
This allows for keeping people in the correct order and century (or better).  I 
hope it is not planned to drop this feature.

Howard Cady









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RE: [LegacyUG] Clicking and/or right clicking is getting MORE than annoying

[C.G. Ouimet]

Perhaps Millennia should have one of those that we can all use for that purpose 
instead of all of us setting one up …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Bryan P [mailto:brya...@gmail.com]
Sent: June 03, 2014 11:57 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clicking and/or right clicking is getting MORE than 
annoying



You can always provide a url to an image on a cloud storage device -  One 
Drive/ Dropbox for example - open to “public”. Then we can view the problem.

Bryan





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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Gender

[C.G. Ouimet]

Three choices … Male, Female, Unknown …



And you can change the gender anytime …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Nancy Stevens [mailto:nancystevens4...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 26, 2014 11:32 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Gender



Is it possible to add a child without indicating gender?  I know this couple 
had a child but that is all I know right now.  I would like to add the child to 
the database but it looks like I must choose male or female.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Downloads

[C.G. Ouimet]

I've always download directly. I save them in the event I wish to revert to an 
earlier version ...



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
Sent: May 21, 2014 06:44 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Downloads

After another failed 4 hour download through the program.   Direct
download from the site is faster and surer.

Bernie
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RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

[C.G. Ouimet]

The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to 
overwrite the previous backup.



In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the bottom and 
ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.





C.G. Ouimet

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From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?

EXAMPLE;

john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.

john.zip

john[1].zip

john[1][1].zip

john[1][1][1].zip

john[1][1][1][1].zip

etc.



elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

[C.G. Ouimet]

Hmm …



You didn’t say your backup files had Date and Time embedded in them.



My backup files all show as something like …



CGO Master 800 2014-05-13 06.48.20 AM.zip with no [1]



C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 03:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



I looked, and those options are already checked. The date and time appear after 
the [1]s in each file name.

Elizabeth



On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

The Zip file is the backup. It might be because Legacy doesn’t want to 
overwrite the previous backup.



In Legacy, go to File, then Backup. Click  the Options button at the bottom and 
ensure to check the Append Date and Append Time to the filename.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 18, 2014 01:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]



Why does a '[1]' keep getting added to the file name every time I close and 
save my file?

EXAMPLE;

john.zip becomes john[1].zip, then john[1][1].zip the next time I close and 
save it...and on and on and on.

john.zip

john[1].zip

john[1][1].zip

john[1][1][1].zip

john[1][1][1][1].zip

etc.



elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] confirmation dates and error checking

[C.G. Ouimet]

Instead of entering Quasi 1898 try Abt 1898, something we might all 
recognize ...



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: sa...@attglobal.net [mailto:sa...@attglobal.net]
Sent: May 16, 2014 03:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] confirmation dates and error checking

Hi, my sources give a confirmation date as Quasi 1898, etc. When I enter Quasi. 
1898 I get a Potential Problem warning. I click on the warning and click on 
Mark as Not a Problem but the red dot with the exclamation point does not go 
away. There are no other problems with that person. What am I doing wrong? 
Thanks for any help.
Elsie


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[LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

[C.G. Ouimet]

Congratulations and thank you on the detailed documentation of fixes in this
latest release . No Miscellaneous Fixes .





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RE: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

[C.G. Ouimet]

I was being complimentary on how well they documented the fixes!


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-Original Message-
From: magnoliasouth [mailto:magnoliaso...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 11:18 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

Oh come on, that's unfair. There are 86 fixes in this update and that's an 
above average number of fixes for any update.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:18 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:


 Congratulations and thank you on the detailed documentation of fixes
 in this latest release … “No Miscellaneous Fixes” …



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RE: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

[C.G. Ouimet]

Where the Update Downloads are 
(http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadUpdate.asp). From there, there's a 
link to the revision history ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
Sent: May 15, 2014 01:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

Where does one find this information?


On 15/05/2014 10:50 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 I was being complimentary on how well they documented the fixes!


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON

 -Original Message-
 From: magnoliasouth [mailto:magnoliaso...@gmail.com]
 Sent: May 15, 2014 11:18 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

 Oh come on, that's unfair. There are 86 fixes in this update and that's an 
 above average number of fixes for any update.

 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:18 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 Congratulations and thank you on the detailed documentation of fixes
 in this latest release … “No Miscellaneous Fixes” …




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RE: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?

[C.G. Ouimet]

How about going to Options, then Customize, then Dates and pick the closest 
thing which will look like “1933 Sep 8”, “1933 Sep” or “1933”, depending on how 
much detail you have …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 03:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?



I use the free version of Legacy 7.5

Is there a way to have the date for an Event display differently than other 
dates for other fields?

All my dates display as Month/Day/Year, just as I want them to. But for Events 
I want them to display differently because I don''t always know the month and 
day.

I want all the events to show up in 'book' style reports with the Year first, 
then month, then day so that they can be easily scanned.

Right now I get this type of display which is difficult to look through

1920
1930

September 8, 1933
1940

August, 1941

I want it to look like this...

1920
1930

1933, September 8
1940

1941, August

Is there any way to enter dates for Events so the year displays first?



Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?

[C.G. Ouimet]

Dates will be displayed consistently everywhere. They won’t show one way here 
and another way there. You need to pick …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 04:18 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?



Would I have to do that each time I add an Event and then switch back to the 
other way when done adding it? Or can there be 2 different permanent settings 
for dates? I think whatever setting I choose is used everywhere..?

Elizabeth



On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:45 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

How about going to Options, then Customize, then Dates and pick the closest 
thing which will look like “1933 Sep 8”, “1933 Sep” or “1933”, depending on how 
much detail you have …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 03:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?



I use the free version of Legacy 7.5

Is there a way to have the date for an Event display differently than other 
dates for other fields?

All my dates display as Month/Day/Year, just as I want them to. But for Events 
I want them to display differently because I don''t always know the month and 
day.

I want all the events to show up in 'book' style reports with the Year first, 
then month, then day so that they can be easily scanned.

Right now I get this type of display which is difficult to look through

1920
1930

September 8, 1933
1940

August, 1941

I want it to look like this...

1920
1930

1933, September 8
1940

1941, August

Is there any way to enter dates for Events so the year displays first?

Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

[C.G. Ouimet]

A child of 8.0.0.414 and spouse unknown ... Or 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadUpdate.asp ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Dave Johnson [mailto:davel...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 05:17 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

Where does Legacy 8.0.0.425 come from anyway?

-Original Message-
From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 8.0.0.425

Thanks CG and Mike.  I think it was a trees and forest thing.

Bernie
On 15/05/2014 12:06 PM, Mike Fry wrote:
 On 15 May 2014 19:44, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

 Where the Update Downloads are
 (http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadUpdate.asp). From there,
 there's a link to the revision history ...
 Or, select the Legacy Home tab. Click on the Updates section header.
 On the resulting window, click on the See What's New hyperlink.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

[C.G. Ouimet]

If I use [CoupleNames] in a Marriage Event, the sentence preview shows both 
full names correctly and so does the Family Group Sheet report.

If I use [CoupleFirstNames], the event sentence preview correctly uses both 
first names. However, the Family Group Sheet shows the female's first name for 
both the male and female. Same problem with Ancestor Book and Descendant Book.


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: magnoliasouth [mailto:magnoliaso...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 14, 2014 07:00 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

But there's [CoupleNames] and [CoupleFirstNames], which works for me.
It doesn't for you?

The downside to this is that if you want to use them you need to make a 
separate role for married couples. That only takes a minute though.

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
 And beware if you use the event on a marriage... only one spouse's
 name is used.

 --Paula



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RE: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

[C.G. Ouimet]

The marriage event itself works fine as in Jim married Jane.  But ...

When I find couples with prior relationships like 2nd cousins, I have a 
Relationship fact for the couple's marriage where I record 2nd cousins in the 
description. I found the event sentence with [CoupleFirstNames] returning the 
wife's name for both husband and wife on FGS and Ancestor/Descendant books.

I did some more analysis and found the FGS always has the issue but 
Ancestor/Descendant books only have the issue if either spouse was married more 
than once. Try it out ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: May 14, 2014 12:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

Your problem with [CoupleFirstNames] was previously reported and is recorded in 
our problem tracking system. I have added the FGR and Descendant Narrative 
reports to that issue since they were not mentioned.

I was not able to confirm any problem with the Ancestor Book and Descendant 
Book reports, they correctly used the husband and wife first names in the 
marriage event sentence.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 14/05/2014 9:22 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 If I use [CoupleNames] in a Marriage Event, the sentence preview shows both 
 full names correctly and so does the Family Group Sheet report.

 If I use [CoupleFirstNames], the event sentence preview correctly uses both 
 first names. However, the Family Group Sheet shows the female's first name 
 for both the male and female. Same problem with Ancestor Book and Descendant 
 Book.


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

[C.G. Ouimet]

And ... The work around of replacing [CoupleFirstNames] with [HusbFirstName] 
and [WifeFirstName] works fine ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: May 14, 2014 12:51 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

The marriage event itself works fine as in Jim married Jane.  But ...

When I find couples with prior relationships like 2nd cousins, I have a 
Relationship fact for the couple's marriage where I record 2nd cousins in the 
description. I found the event sentence with [CoupleFirstNames] returning the 
wife's name for both husband and wife on FGS and Ancestor/Descendant books.

I did some more analysis and found the FGS always has the issue but 
Ancestor/Descendant books only have the issue if either spouse was married more 
than once. Try it out ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: May 14, 2014 12:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

Your problem with [CoupleFirstNames] was previously reported and is recorded in 
our problem tracking system. I have added the FGR and Descendant Narrative 
reports to that issue since they were not mentioned.

I was not able to confirm any problem with the Ancestor Book and Descendant 
Book reports, they correctly used the husband and wife first names in the 
marriage event sentence.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 14/05/2014 9:22 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 If I use [CoupleNames] in a Marriage Event, the sentence preview shows both 
 full names correctly and so does the Family Group Sheet report.

 If I use [CoupleFirstNames], the event sentence preview correctly uses both 
 first names. However, the Family Group Sheet shows the female's first name 
 for both the male and female. Same problem with Ancestor Book and Descendant 
 Book.


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

[C.G. Ouimet]

Well, I'm getting it. What do want as proof?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: May 14, 2014 04:56 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

I did try it in the sample file for a couple where both were married more than 
once and did not get the problem in the Ancestor nor in the Descendant books 
for a marriage event.

Brian
Customer Support
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On 14/05/2014 12:51 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 The marriage event itself works fine as in Jim married Jane.  But ...

 When I find couples with prior relationships like 2nd cousins, I have a 
 Relationship fact for the couple's marriage where I record 2nd cousins in the 
 description. I found the event sentence with [CoupleFirstNames] returning the 
 wife's name for both husband and wife on FGS and Ancestor/Descendant books.

 I did some more analysis and found the FGS always has the issue but 
 Ancestor/Descendant books only have the issue if either spouse was married 
 more than once. Try it out ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: May 14, 2014 12:22 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event role problem

 Your problem with [CoupleFirstNames] was previously reported and is recorded 
 in our problem tracking system. I have added the FGR and Descendant Narrative 
 reports to that issue since they were not mentioned.

 I was not able to confirm any problem with the Ancestor Book and Descendant 
 Book reports, they correctly used the husband and wife first names in the 
 marriage event sentence.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 On 14/05/2014 9:22 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 If I use [CoupleNames] in a Marriage Event, the sentence preview shows both 
 full names correctly and so does the Family Group Sheet report.

 If I use [CoupleFirstNames], the event sentence preview correctly uses both 
 first names. However, the Family Group Sheet shows the female's first name 
 for both the male and female. Same problem with Ancestor Book and Descendant 
 Book.


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Charting

[C.G. Ouimet]

The Charting Companion does http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LCComp.asp ...





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Lynn Firestone [mailto:lynne...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 05, 2014 01:11 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Charting



I am wondering if there is any way to use the Legacy program to create a chart 
that will show a couple in the middle of the chart, with each of the spouses 
ancestry vertically upward from the couple and then ALL of the descendants of 
that couple vertically downward from the couple.  It would probably be 
something like a big fay Y shape.



I know we can do this in the charting software but only to the children of the 
couple and not there grandchildren and great grandchildren.



Thanks,



Lynn Firestone

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to source an e-mail attachment?

[C.G. Ouimet]

I would suggest the source is the document, not the delivery method ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 05, 2014 06:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to source an e-mail attachment?

This is how I see it, which is different to the other replies I've seen so 
far...

In my database, I would use the email that the file is attached to as the 
source.  After all, that is how it came to you.  If there are several files 
attached to the email, they would all be captured in this one source citation; 
assuming multiple attachments to the email, I would mention which particular 
attached file an item of data came from in the Source Detail.

Any time you're looking at the data extracted (ie recorded in your Legacy 
database) and want to go back to the 'original' to check on something, that 
email in your mail box is the original for you.  You may have saved the file(s) 
to your hard drive as well, but many formats (.doc, .exe, .txt, etc) are 
editable and you may unwittingly pick up changes and errors in those saved 
files along the way.  The copy attached to your email will be unchanged and can 
be downloaded again if required.

I don't delete emails, by the way.  At Gmail I keep everything ever sent to me, 
except spam which gets checked and then deleted regularly - I've been using 
this account since about 2005, and the 178,000+ emails stored at the moment are 
taking up 61% of the 15GB of storage currently allocated to me - which has 
grown over time from the original 1GB or thereabouts (my memory is getting hazy 
on the details!).  I am in no danger of running out of space there. Any email 
in that mail box is easily located if I need to find it again.

Hope this gives you some food for thought.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Arnold Sprague said the following on 6/05/2014 00:17:
 I have a long attachment to an e-mail. The most helpful attachment is
 50 pages long.
 Using SourceWriter, I do not see a good option to choose from.
 Kinda close, but not kewpie doll worthy are:

 E-Mail
 Family Group Sheet
 GEDCOM File

 The option of Person Knowledge does not apply.
 Any ideas and thank you,
 Arnold



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to source an e-mail attachment?

[C.G. Ouimet]

How would you source it if it came in an envelope via your postal service?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 05, 2014 06:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to source an e-mail attachment?

This is how I see it, which is different to the other replies I've seen so 
far...

In my database, I would use the email that the file is attached to as the 
source.  After all, that is how it came to you.  If there are several files 
attached to the email, they would all be captured in this one source citation; 
assuming multiple attachments to the email, I would mention which particular 
attached file an item of data came from in the Source Detail.

Any time you're looking at the data extracted (ie recorded in your Legacy 
database) and want to go back to the 'original' to check on something, that 
email in your mail box is the original for you.  You may have saved the file(s) 
to your hard drive as well, but many formats (.doc, .exe, .txt, etc) are 
editable and you may unwittingly pick up changes and errors in those saved 
files along the way.  The copy attached to your email will be unchanged and can 
be downloaded again if required.

I don't delete emails, by the way.  At Gmail I keep everything ever sent to me, 
except spam which gets checked and then deleted regularly - I've been using 
this account since about 2005, and the 178,000+ emails stored at the moment are 
taking up 61% of the 15GB of storage currently allocated to me - which has 
grown over time from the original 1GB or thereabouts (my memory is getting hazy 
on the details!).  I am in no danger of running out of space there. Any email 
in that mail box is easily located if I need to find it again.

Hope this gives you some food for thought.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Arnold Sprague said the following on 6/05/2014 00:17:
 I have a long attachment to an e-mail. The most helpful attachment is
 50 pages long.
 Using SourceWriter, I do not see a good option to choose from.
 Kinda close, but not kewpie doll worthy are:

 E-Mail
 Family Group Sheet
 GEDCOM File

 The option of Person Knowledge does not apply.
 Any ideas and thank you,
 Arnold



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RE: [LegacyUG] Cloning an Event Definition

[C.G. Ouimet]

In the Master Event List, click the “Add” button.



Enter the Even Name in the “Add/Edit Event Definition Window” and select the 
fields you want.



Then … click the “Reset” button at the bottom of that same “Add/Edit Event 
Definition Window”. From the popup, select “Load Sentences from another Event” 
and you will then get to pick which event to clone the sentences from.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 29, 2014 12:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cloning an Event Definition



When creating a new Event definition, is there a way to clone an existing 
event definition, then changing a few words to make a new one without having to 
retype all the Wording Options?



Gene



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RE: [LegacyUG] Descendants Report (Book)

[C.G. Ouimet]

If only we could also get the children’s events properly aligned …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Shirley Richardson [mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz]
Sent: April 26, 2014 09:25 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendants Report (Book)



Wow. So easy. I have spent ages trying to find out. Looks really good now.

Many thanks

Shirley

NZ

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To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:56 PM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Descendants Report (Book)



Uncheck “show spouses for children who will have a main entry” on the Options 
tab …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Shirley Richardson [mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz]
Sent: April 26, 2014 04:32 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendants Report (Book)



Could someone please advise if it is possible to print the children of...  
without the marriage info for each child. As it is also repeated in the next 
generation I feel without the duplicate information it would make the report 
easier to follow as well as shorten the report.



Regards

Shirley

NZ



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RE: [LegacyUG] Descendants Report (Book)

[C.G. Ouimet]

Uncheck “show spouses for children who will have a main entry” on the Options 
tab …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Shirley Richardson [mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz]
Sent: April 26, 2014 04:32 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendants Report (Book)



Could someone please advise if it is possible to print the children of...  
without the marriage info for each child. As it is also repeated in the next 
generation I feel without the duplicate information it would make the report 
easier to follow as well as shorten the report.



Regards

Shirley

NZ



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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

[C.G. Ouimet]

Very good ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: April 25, 2014 12:24 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

On 16 Apr Pat Hickin mentioned that the Picture Centre does not autofill the 
file name when you click the Rename button on the Attached Pictures or on the 
Picture List tabs in the picture centre. We had that in our reporting system 
already but I added her report to the issue.

The problem has been fixed and will be available in the next update to Legacy 
8.0. I do not know when that update will be issued. You can check for updates 
by selecting the Legacy Home tab. The updates section will tell you when a new 
update is available and, if you have the deluxe version, allow you to update 
from within Legacy. Standard version users will have to obtain the update from 
our web site.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date

[C.G. Ouimet]

Legacy would recognize “to 1977” …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: April 24, 2014 11:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date



I have one event where I want to say She was a member there until 1977.

I can enter until 1977 in the date field, but the dread red circle P pops up.



So, what would be your recommendation on until 1977 ...  through 1977 has 
same result.  Just enter what I want and ignore the PP?

Because I apparently cannot tell Legacy to ignore the PP, because nothing 
happens when I click on it in the Event screen, and checking the box in the 
Event sentence/structure window to ignore PP doesn't really work at the field 
level (not intended to I think).

Thanks,



--Paula



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From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date



I try to word everything so that it makes sense both now and at any point in 
the future (e.g., 10 years from now). The word ‘present’ would be completely 
ambiguous. I would try to get the event to read nicely while leaving the end 
date out. You might have to use the notes field instead of the date field. In 
notes, you can say things like ‘she started in 1980 and was still in that 
position as of Apr 2014’.



  Ward



From: Howlanddavisii mailto:howlanddavi...@aol.com

Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 3:40 PM

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date



 In trying to clean up my Potential Problems, my sister has an unrecognized 
event date.  I am trying to say that she worked at her present position from 
1980 - present.  If I want to say that, how do I do so?  Should I not have 
spaces around the dash (similar to actual dates), do I leave present out or 
do I just say that's what I want and exclude it?


Howland Davis





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RE: [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?

[C.G. Ouimet]

I get the same …





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Kingston ON



From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: April 24, 2014 11:51 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?



I'm running FGR for myself  hubby.

Report Options  Format tab  Event Narrative Format button 

Use event sentence formatting  Combine all events into one paragraph



Not getting the one paragraph.

Rather, I am getting what looks like Nothing preceding each event.



Can you confirm this issue? Or let me know it is working for you?

Thanks!!



--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



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RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with printout of Relationship Calculator results

[C.G. Ouimet]

Works for me. I selected 2 individuals with 5 relationships.



I was able to print the relationships individually and in a combined report …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 20, 2014 11:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem with printout of Relationship Calculator results



I am trying to printout 2.pdfs of the results from a Relationship Calculator 
report.



I am a 3d cousin 1x removed to BB ( we are both descended from Ancestor M).  No 
problems with that.



However we are also 4th cousins (we are both descended from Ancestor G).  The 
Relationship Calculator shows both connections.  However, when I highlight the 
Ancestor G results (which are then shown in the Descent from Common Ancestor 
boxes) and tell Legacy to print out the results, it simply prints out the 
Ancestor M report all over again.



Short of temporarily disconnecting Ancestor M, how do I get Legacy to print out 
the Ancestor G .pdf??



Thanks,

Pat



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RE: [LegacyUG] Problem with printout of Relationship Calculator results

[C.G. Ouimet]

In the Relationship Chart Print setup window, just below the large “Printer 
Setup” button, do you have “Print the current relationship” or “Print all the 
relationships” selected?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 20, 2014 01:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with printout of Relationship Calculator results



I was mistaken -- no matter which ancestor I highlight, it prints out both 
reports!



Pat



On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

Works for me. I selected 2 individuals with 5 relationships.



I was able to print the relationships individually and in a combined report …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 20, 2014 11:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem with printout of Relationship Calculator results



I am trying to printout 2.pdfs of the results from a Relationship Calculator 
report.



I am a 3d cousin 1x removed to BB ( we are both descended from Ancestor M).  No 
problems with that.



However we are also 4th cousins (we are both descended from Ancestor G).  The 
Relationship Calculator shows both connections.  However, when I highlight the 
Ancestor G results (which are then shown in the Descent from Common Ancestor 
boxes) and tell Legacy to print out the results, it simply prints out the 
Ancestor M report all over again.



Short of temporarily disconnecting Ancestor M, how do I get Legacy to print out 
the Ancestor G .pdf??



Thanks,

Pat



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RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with locating changed image filenames

[C.G. Ouimet]

I did that recently ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: April 16, 2014 09:54 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with locating changed image filenames

On 16/04/2014 13:21, Pat Hickin wrote:
 I hadn't tried the picture center -- however I cannot believe that
 when offered the opportunity to rename they do not insert the present
 name of the file!  In many cases my file names are long and I only
 want to make one tiny change!

 I'll make a suggestion to that effect!

Please do!  I think I might have done so some time ago (or asked for something 
similar) and am disappointed that this has not been implemented.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Events in Ancestor Book Report misplaced

[C.G. Ouimet]

Kinda scary that you might have to watch the reports line by line … My 
daughter’s Ancestor Book is ~1600 pages …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Marnie Oakes [mailto:marnie.oa...@verizon.net]
Sent: April 16, 2014 06:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Events in Ancestor Book Report misplaced



I reported this issue to support. Jim was able to reproduce the problem and has 
logged it into the bug system as Ancestor Book adds spurious Events to 
individuals.  Thanks, Jim.
Marnie



On 4/14/2014 11:36 PM, Marnie Oakes wrote:

I completed a 12 generation ancestor report and started checking through it.  
All seems well until close to the end.  Then I start getting individuals, who 
have no events attached to them in the database,  but with events that belong 
to other people.   Here is an example:

1856.  Phillip Fowler,263 son of   and  
.

 Phillip married someone.   

 Noted events in his life were:  [These events come from other lines in my fdb, 
not from the one I was documenting in the Ancestor Book.  They all appear to be 
shared events.]

 •   was a Mother to the Census of George C. Cook 1900 Walkerton, Lincoln 
township, St. Joseph, Indiana.289

•  George was the head of household in the census of Harold E. Reynolds in 1910 
in Yonkers, Westchester, New York, United States. [Not related to George above]

•  Harold was a Wife to the Census of Harold E. Reynolds 1910 Yonkers, 
Westchester, New York, United States. [not related to Harold below and why he 
shows as a wife I don't know]

•  Harold was the head of household in the census of Ruth Kneeland in 1930 in 
Cambridge, Lamoille, Vermont, United States.290









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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[C.G. Ouimet]

Thanks for this discussion by the way, I've long wondered what these odd 
looking Quarter dates (vs say 1Q1900 or 1900Q1) were all about ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: David Newton [mailto:davidnew...@drdavid.plus.com]
Sent: April 13, 2014 05:09 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

Forgetting all the issues of accuracy with the GRO Index it is worth noting 
that an individual has 42 days in which to register a birth so a
13 week quarter on the birth index covers up to 18 weeks of possible dates of 
birth. Deaths on the other hand are required to be registered within 5 days, 
extended to 14 days to allow for a medical certificate and indefinitely 
extended if there is a coroner involved. The marriage registration is the most 
accurate since it normally takes place at the end of the ceremony.

I agree that a registration event should be created, after all it is in effect 
a civil christening, but until Legacy is able to use that as an alternative 
to a birth date it is also necessary to enter something for the date of birth. 
My personal choice would be before end of quarter
until I get something more accurate.

David

On 13/04/2014 09:05, MikeFry wrote:
 On 13 Apr 2014 01:09, Ron Ferguson wrote:

 They are simply a record of when these events were*registered*.
 Strictly speaking I suppose that one should create a Registration
 Event for each type then it would be clear that March 1852 was a quarter 
 date.
 That's precisely what I've started to do. Added three, registration
 events. Over time, I will remove the quarter dates from the vital
 information and add the appropriate events. I'm still considering
 whether to substitute a 'from-to' date to cover the replaced 'birth' date.





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[LegacyUG] Search Tag Marriages

[C.G. Ouimet]

Perhaps I'm missing something .



I'm trying to get a list of marriage records with marriage contracts by a
certain notary. I can get the list of individuals involved but I'd like a
marriages list instead of an individuals list and then I'd like to tag
(advanced tagging) those marriages. Am I missing something or is manually
one by one the only way?



I'd also like to print that tagged marriage list.





Thank you .





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON






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RE: [LegacyUG] Search Tag Marriages

[C.G. Ouimet]

Thanks Cathy ...

Multiple marriages are a big problem.

Another problem is the fact that when selecting Marriage Contract as a field to 
display, it's all blank.

I then tried to report via the Name List (not the Search List) but same result 
(blank Marriage Contracts) plus I discovered that selecting records to print in 
the Name List (tag, focus) doesn't work - you get everyone ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 13, 2014 06:55 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search  Tag Marriages

Marriage tags can't be added from a search list.
Marriage tags still have very limited
usefulness.  We need enhancements to make them really useful.

Marriage tags have to be added one by one though they can be removed all at 
once.

You can print from the Marriage list but you can't filter it by tag so it's not 
going to give you what you want.

To get what you want you need to get the list of individuals and then just the 
male or female ones and then print from the Name List. In the Name List print 
you can choose to include the spouse name and the MRIN. However, I don't think 
that will work exactly if any have more than one marriage.

You may be better to export to csv and then adjust the Spreadsheet as necessary.

Cathy

  At 05:58 PM 13/04/2014, you wrote:
Perhaps I’m missing something …

I’m trying to get a list of marriage records with marriage contracts by
a certain notary. I can get the list of individuals involved but I’d
like a marriages list instead of an individuals list and then I’d like
to tag (advanced tagging) those marriages. Am I missing something or is
manually one by one the only way?

I’d also like to print that tagged marriage list.


Thank you …


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON




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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[C.G. Ouimet]

Only in England ... :)


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: April 13, 2014 10:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

Cheryl,

Good question!

I suggest that you Google English quarter days where you will see that they 
are not exactly the last day of the appropriate month, which is a later change 
in usage.

However prior to 1752(?) the quarter days were the first day of the quarter 
afterwards, the last. Nice one eh!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 David,

 It would seem that you are not familiar with the English quarter days. 
 Historically these are the days on which many accounts had to be settled, 
 especially anything relating to land, property and government 
 administration. The actual day being the last day of each quarter - the 
 first quarter day being 31 March in each year.

Since you alluded to it -- was 31 March the quarter day when the year
began 25 Mar?  Because my logic suggests quarter day then would have
been 26 June, which would explain a few puzzles.

I ask primarily because I once ran across some Quaker MM records that
counted months from the date of the MM's founding, not from the
calendar (i.e., the first month was July or September, not January or
March), which was massively misleading when one tried to match with
non-Quaker records from the area!

Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[C.G. Ouimet]

The bureaucrat that thought of this - wonder how many pints it took …





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Kingston ON



From: Susan Anderson [mailto:sander...@waitrose.com]
Sent: April 13, 2014 12:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates



The Quarter days are 25 March, 24 June, 29 Sept, 25 Dec. They can be remembered 
by 5 letters March, 4 June, 9 September and Xmas Day. Rents are still paid on 
Quarter days--- I have to send out invoices!
Sue Anderson


 From: singh...@erols.com
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 09:48:15 -0400
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

 Ron Ferguson wrote:
  David,
 
  It would seem that you are not familiar with the English quarter days. 
  Historically these are the days on which many accounts had to be settled, 
  especially anything relating to land, property and government 
  administration. The actual day being the last day of each quarter - the 
  first quarter day being 31 March in each year.

 Since you alluded to it -- was 31 March the quarter day when
 the year began 25 Mar? Because my logic suggests quarter
 day then would have been 26 June, which would explain a few
 puzzles.

 I ask primarily because I once ran across some Quaker MM
 records that counted months from the date of the MM's
 founding, not from the calendar (i.e., the first month was
 July or September, not January or March), which was
 massively misleading when one tried to match with non-Quaker
 records from the area!

 Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Location merging

[C.G. Ouimet]

In the Search  Replace dialog, I would try un-checking Match Case and 
selecting Anywhere in Field ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: magnoliasouth [mailto:magnoliaso...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 13, 2014 05:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location merging

Many, MANY thanks for the suggestions and the sorry but you'll just have to 
deal with it  answers. I appreciate the sentiments. lol!

Oh and when I said 300, I meant 300 ways of Sumter County. lol! Who knew?

The search function doesn't appear to work properly either. To prove the 
problem, I'll do my screen caps again. The short answer is that I'll have a 
location that says Franklin, AL and when I go to replace AL with Alabama it 
says there were 0 replacements, AL was not found.
REALLY???!!! It's all over the place!

The list that displays the AL example above: http://goo.gl/5TjOsa The operators 
I used to search and replace: http://goo.gl/6eO9ph The results: 
http://goo.gl/JSRf3Y

Oh and I if I remove the comma, it still says 0 replacements. I thought maybe 
that was a problem, but alas, it was not.

Anyway, because you were all so kind as to respond, I have responded to each of 
you below. Hopefully I missed no one. :)

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Instead of merging each one to your final choice, you could merge the
 ones that are near each other first.
 However,  with the examples you provide, they'd all be together if you
 were sorting left to right instead of right to left - but you probably
 have  a number of towns included as well.

I do. I saw that as an issue. There really needs to be a csv Location merge 
function. There is no reason not to have one. You could then also turn options 
on and off to match anything between commas. This way it wouldn't mess up any 
entries with towns in them.

I fully expected it to have this funciton and was very surprised it didn't 
exist. I also felt like the replace function would work, but it doesn't, as I 
mentioned above.

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 6:05 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:
 Yes CSV's for all list outputs would be good ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON

That's exactly what I was wanting (I agree about the events too). I was 
disappointed to find that a report of my locations required only a pdf, but it 
also forced me into accepting (at the minimum) how many individuals each was 
assigned to. I couldn't care less about that. All I want is a report of 
locations. Anyway, the functionality of csv is much better in fixing problems 
like this than whatever it is that this does.


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:02 AM, David Newton davidnew...@drdavid.plus.com 
wrote:
 There is a way to tag all the locations containing Sumter but what you
 can do with the list after that I do not know.
 David

LOL! Yeah, I agree. I like the functionality of the Master Source view. You can 
tag certain sources then hide those not tagged. Then you can merge and do 
whatnot. Now THAT was extremely helpful. I was very pleased with how that 
worked out and it was simple.

I could see something similar here. Tagging everything that says Sumter then 
hiding all the other stuff so I can fix that one area. In fact, if it had 
worked that way, I wouldn't have asked for any help on the list.

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:09 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:
 To reduce the pain a bit, though, you can select the version you want,
 copy the info, then just paste it over the other source names and then
 merge dupes.  IME, it keeps the detail on each and saves a lot of
 rekeying.

 Cheryl

I don't know why, because it sounds so simple, but this confuses me.
Wouldn't merging duplicates keep the details? Oh wait. I think I understand 
what you mean. You mean copy/paste the location name I like such as copying , , 
Sumter County, Georgia and pasting it over Sumter Co., GA.

I agree, that's the least painful way and that's what I did day before 
yesterday and it took HOURS. I literally spent 8 hours fixing all my locations. 
The unfortunate thing was that I realized there were a lot of individual merges 
that weren't right, so I had to resort to going back to the original file and 
starting all over again. I tell you, I cried real tears. Real!

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:26 AM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com 
wrote:
 Have you edited these entries with errors per the instructions from the Help?

 Combining Duplicate Locations

 When correcting misspelled place names, you may find that you end up with 
 duplicates within the Master Location List.  To remove these duplicates and 
 clean up the list, choose the Combine option.  Legacy then goes through the 
 list, combines the duplicates and moves the links.

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy

Yes, thank you. In my original message I explained why that wasn't working for 
me. The problem is the 300 same place names and scrolling through thousands to 
go back and forth

RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

[C.G. Ouimet]

Just so you know ... today's hot topic is Dating in the UK ... :)


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

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From: magnoliasouth [mailto:magnoliaso...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 12, 2014 05:59 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

Again, I've checked my spam folder, and my gmail filters (there are none). Can 
someone please check into this?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets

[C.G. Ouimet]

Now I understand your question …



For the Family Group Report, in Report Options, Format tab, see the blank line 
removal section … you want the second or third option …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Margaret Gagliardi [mailto:megsge...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 02, 2014 06:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets



Now that I can see all the email I would like to ask my question again.



I would like to know if there is a way to print out a family group sheet which 
has lines for each persons, Born, Bapt, Died, Buried etc. Currently each 
persons section is just a blank box unless I have some information for one of 
the categories.



Thanks much!

Margaret



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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets

[C.G. Ouimet]

I forgot about that one … Mine has been un-checked for a long time … Good one …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Bonnie Blumel [mailto:journalc...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 02, 2014 07:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets



I had the same problem. Go to report options, then under the format tab un 
click summary style. Hope that works for you.



Bonnie Blumel

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Margaret Gagliardi megsge...@gmail.com wrote:

No. that is not what I mean and it is very hard to explain, so I am going to 
try and draw it here.



Born _

Bapt _

Died _

Buried



I would like to be able to see lines across the page, when I print out the 
family group sheet if that is an option instead of just having a blank box like 
below:



Born

Bapt

Died

Buried



I hope this makes more sense.

Thanks so much for your help.

Margaret



On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:01 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

Now I understand your question …



For the Family Group Report, in Report Options, Format tab, see the blank line 
removal section … you want the second or third option …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Margaret Gagliardi [mailto:megsge...@gmail.com]
Sent: April 02, 2014 06:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Sheets



Now that I can see all the email I would like to ask my question again.



I would like to know if there is a way to print out a family group sheet which 
has lines for each persons, Born, Bapt, Died, Buried etc. Currently each 
persons section is just a blank box unless I have some information for one of 
the categories.



Thanks much!

Margaret



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RE: [LegacyUG] Find

[C.G. Ouimet]

Thank you ...

I was trying everything except Not Equal to!


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: March 31, 2014 05:36 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find

On 31/03/2014 00:23, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 I used to be able to find records but perhaps I have forgotten how or
 Legacy has …

 How do I find all individuals with Notes?

ToolsSearchDetailed Search, then

Look for whom:  Individual
Where to look:  Select whichever Notes field is appropriate How to look:  Not 
equal to What to look for:  Leave this blank

But at the moment there is a bug and instead of being able to leave the last 
field blank you have to let it show -Select an Event-.  The Search will still 
work correctly, though.

You probably want to check the radio button for Clear List before this Search 
and then click the button Create List, but there are other options.

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Tagging People with Pictures

[C.G. Ouimet]

No ideas?



--



I must be missing something !



I’m trying to tag all individuals/marriages with media files attached but that 
seems to be the only thing we can’t create a search list for. Am I missing 
something?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures

[C.G. Ouimet]

Changing the name of the file in Windows doesn’t change the Create or Modified 
dates either …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 29, 2014 08:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures



I noticed also that the date and time of the picture file in Windows did not 
change when the filename was renamed by the Picture Center.  That is important 
when trying to determine which picture files have been changed and may affect 
backup software when looking for changed files.

Ron Taylor

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:13 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

I always use the Rename on the Attached Pics tab of Picture Center.  Just 
tried it and it is working fine (version 8.0.0.414).  I seem to remember that 
there are problems with the Rename on the Picture List tab even though the Help 
says they are the same.  Be sure which tab is active when you Rename because 
the file that is being renamed is the highlighted one in the active tab.  It is 
confusing that a filename in the Picture List panel and a filename in the 
Attached Pictures panel can both be highlighted since the preview of the 
picture in the active tab can only for one of them.  Also, you don't enter the 
full path of the picture for the rename but only the filename excluding the 
extension.  The rest of the path and the extension are retained for the new 
filename.

Ron Taylor



On Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:23 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote:

I can't find anything about his in the help file. I have Version 8 on a
Windows 7 computer. I renamed a large number of photos in the Picture
Center (like I did with Version 7.5). Then I checked the media links
before I went any further. Clearly I should have checked sooner. I now
have 122 unlinked pictures. I tried the media relinker and all it did
was delete the link. Not the least bit helpful. Anyone have any
suggestions? While I'm waiting for a response I'll be back to relinking
by hand, but I won't be renaming any more photos any time soon.

--
Kirstin




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RE: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures Backup

[C.G. Ouimet]

I do believe that backup software will consider the renamed file as a “new 
file” and therefore back it up.



As for Legacy Backup …



The v8 Help states that for Multimedia backups “Legacy now compresses and saves 
all the picture, sound, video, and document files linked into the current 
Family File” suggesting that media files in your default media folder not 
linked to anyone in your file won’t be included in the backup. I suppose not 
included in the backup then are files renamed outside of Legacy and not 
relinked to someone.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 30, 2014 11:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures



C.G.

You are correct.  I had forgotten that Windows does not consider a rename to be 
a file change and therefore modified date is unaffected.  Some comments I read 
say they do change the accessed date if the rename is done with GUI but not 
if done with CLI.  If a backup system keys off the modified date to pick up 
files that have changed, these renamed files will be missed.  What is worse, in 
my opinion, is that a list of renamed files based on date they were renamed is 
not possible with a date modified filter.



On a similar theme, when files are copied from one folder to another, the date 
created is reset even though the file is not new.  Therefore you can't 
determine the actual creation date of a file after it has been moved.  This 
comes into play when files are restored in the un-zip process.  It would be 
great if the original creation date of the file could be utilized even if the 
file has been moved from one computer to another.  The date accessed has 
problems also.  It does not always mean the file has been opened.  There are 
other things that change date accessed.



In summary, Legacy is not at fault for the date modified being unaffected by a 
rename.

Ron Taylor

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:43 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

Changing the name of the file in Windows doesn’t change the Create or Modified 
dates either …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 29, 2014 08:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures



I noticed also that the date and time of the picture file in Windows did not 
change when the filename was renamed by the Picture Center.  That is important 
when trying to determine which picture files have been changed and may affect 
backup software when looking for changed files.

Ron Taylor

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:13 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

I always use the Rename on the Attached Pics tab of Picture Center.  Just 
tried it and it is working fine (version 8.0.0.414).  I seem to remember that 
there are problems with the Rename on the Picture List tab even though the Help 
says they are the same.  Be sure which tab is active when you Rename because 
the file that is being renamed is the highlighted one in the active tab.  It is 
confusing that a filename in the Picture List panel and a filename in the 
Attached Pictures panel can both be highlighted since the preview of the 
picture in the active tab can only for one of them.  Also, you don't enter the 
full path of the picture for the rename but only the filename excluding the 
extension.  The rest of the path and the extension are retained for the new 
filename.

Ron Taylor



On Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:23 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote:

I can't find anything about his in the help file. I have Version 8 on a
Windows 7 computer. I renamed a large number of photos in the Picture
Center (like I did with Version 7.5). Then I checked the media links
before I went any further. Clearly I should have checked sooner. I now
have 122 unlinked pictures. I tried the media relinker and all it did
was delete the link. Not the least bit helpful. Anyone have any
suggestions? While I'm waiting for a response I'll be back to relinking
by hand, but I won't be renaming any more photos any time soon.

--
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[LegacyUG] Tagging People with Pictures

[C.G. Ouimet]

I must be missing something !



I’m trying to tag all individuals/marriages with media files attached but that 
seems to be the only thing we can’t create a search list for. Am I missing 
something?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures Backup

[C.G. Ouimet]

Yes, I have quite a few of those … LOL …



Neither date changes after renaming from the Picture Center or Windows.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 30, 2014 02:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures  Backup



C.G.

As an interesting exercise, try listing files with created date after modified 
date.  Seems impossible...not for Windows.

Ron Taylor

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:42 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

I do believe that backup software will consider the renamed file as a “new 
file” and therefore back it up.



As for Legacy Backup …



The v8 Help states that for Multimedia backups “Legacy now compresses and saves 
all the picture, sound, video, and document files linked into the current 
Family File” suggesting that media files in your default media folder not 
linked to anyone in your file won’t be included in the backup. I suppose not 
included in the backup then are files renamed outside of Legacy and not 
relinked to someone.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 30, 2014 11:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures



C.G.

You are correct.  I had forgotten that Windows does not consider a rename to be 
a file change and therefore modified date is unaffected.  Some comments I read 
say they do change the accessed date if the rename is done with GUI but not 
if done with CLI.  If a backup system keys off the modified date to pick up 
files that have changed, these renamed files will be missed.  What is worse, in 
my opinion, is that a list of renamed files based on date they were renamed is 
not possible with a date modified filter.



On a similar theme, when files are copied from one folder to another, the date 
created is reset even though the file is not new.  Therefore you can't 
determine the actual creation date of a file after it has been moved.  This 
comes into play when files are restored in the un-zip process.  It would be 
great if the original creation date of the file could be utilized even if the 
file has been moved from one computer to another.  The date accessed has 
problems also.  It does not always mean the file has been opened.  There are 
other things that change date accessed.



In summary, Legacy is not at fault for the date modified being unaffected by a 
rename.

Ron Taylor

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:43 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

Changing the name of the file in Windows doesn’t change the Create or Modified 
dates either …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 29, 2014 08:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming Pictures



I noticed also that the date and time of the picture file in Windows did not 
change when the filename was renamed by the Picture Center.  That is important 
when trying to determine which picture files have been changed and may affect 
backup software when looking for changed files.

Ron Taylor

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:13 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

I always use the Rename on the Attached Pics tab of Picture Center.  Just 
tried it and it is working fine (version 8.0.0.414).  I seem to remember that 
there are problems with the Rename on the Picture List tab even though the Help 
says they are the same.  Be sure which tab is active when you Rename because 
the file that is being renamed is the highlighted one in the active tab.  It is 
confusing that a filename in the Picture List panel and a filename in the 
Attached Pictures panel can both be highlighted since the preview of the 
picture in the active tab can only for one of them.  Also, you don't enter the 
full path of the picture for the rename but only the filename excluding the 
extension.  The rest of the path and the extension are retained for the new 
filename.

Ron Taylor



On Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:23 PM, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote:

I can't find anything about his in the help file. I have Version 8 on a
Windows 7 computer. I renamed a large number of photos in the Picture
Center (like I did with Version 7.5). Then I checked the media links
before I went any further. Clearly I should have checked sooner. I now
have 122 unlinked pictures. I tried the media relinker and all it did
was delete the link. Not the least bit helpful. Anyone have any
suggestions? While I'm waiting for a response I'll be back to relinking
by hand, but I won't be renaming any more photos any time soon.

--
Kirstin




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[LegacyUG] Find

[C.G. Ouimet]

I used to be able to find records but perhaps I have forgotten how or Legacy 
has …



How do I find all individuals with Notes?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Margaret Gagliardi [mailto:megsge...@gmail.com]
Sent: March 30, 2014 05:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Verify your subscription to legacyusergroup mailing list



I have tried to subscribe to the Legacyusers email list, and while it says that 
I have, I never receive any emails nor responses to my requests. So I tried 
again and now it seems that the same thing has happened.  How do I become a 
member of the email group?

Thank you.

Margaret Gagliardi



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RE: [LegacyUG] Family File Information Notes

[C.G. Ouimet]

Such functionality would be great.



Until then … To-Do Items are file specific and could be used (in a pinch) for 
that purpose …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March 29, 2014 10:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family File Information Notes



I thought there was a place to record general information about a database.  
The logical place would be a notes field in Family File Information.  Somewhere 
that a preface to the database might be recorded including any rules or 
special conditions which relate to the entire database.  Example of possible 
general information...



1) This database was originally a combination of records from Joseph Winget, 
Julia Seagrave, and Lawrence Regan as of 21 Aug 2004.

2) Spouses who married more than once have marriage source Duplicate Marriage 
in database.

3) Members of the Winget Family Association have source WFA Member.

4) Dates like Cal 1905 are calculated from evidence versus Abt 1905 which 
are estimated.

5) LDS Blessings are entered as event LDS Blessing and not entered in the 
christening fields.

6) All group sheets connected to the direct line should be complete including 
parents of husband and wife, all children, and spouses of children.



There could be more that the compiler wants to document about the database.  A 
generic source record might be created but it would have to be linked to some 
individual to avoid it being purged as an unused source.

Ron Taylor





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[LegacyUG] Date Issues

[C.G. Ouimet]

Legacy 800-414 but the issue has been around for a while.



When I enter a date as 1825-2-25, Legacy formats it as Feb 25, 1825
which is as expected.



If I enter bet 1825-2-25 and 1825-6-20 or bet 1825-2-25 - 1825-6-20 or
bet 1825-2-25 1825-6-20, Legacy formats it as Bet Feb 25, 1825 and Jun
20, 1825 which is also as expected.



But if I enter bet 1825 and 1835-2-25, I get Bet Feb 25, 1825 and 1835
which isn't correct.



Or, if I enter bet 1825-2-25 and 1835, I get Bet 1825 and Feb 25 1835
which isn't correct either.



Also note the missing comma after the month .



Has anyone else seen this?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Date Issues

[C.G. Ouimet]

That works but we were also told early on in version 8 that we needed to enter 
dates in the same form as our Windows default setting.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Chris Seens [mailto:cseens1...@gmail.com]
Sent: March 23, 2014 12:26 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Issues



Help states the format for Between...And should be:



Between 12 Dec 1888 and 6 Jan 1889

Between 1500 and April 1600

Between 1 and 12 Feb 1658



Remove the day number in your dates and see if that works.



On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

Legacy 800-414 but the issue has been around for a while.



When I enter a date as “1825-2-25”, Legacy formats it as “Feb 25, 1825” which 
is as expected.



If I enter “bet 1825-2-25 and 1825-6-20” or “bet 1825-2-25 - 1825-6-20” or  
“bet 1825-2-25 1825-6-20”, Legacy formats it as “Bet Feb 25, 1825 and Jun 20, 
1825” which is also as expected.



But if I enter “bet 1825 and 1835-2-25”, I get “Bet Feb 25, 1825 and 1835” 
which isn’t correct.



Or, if I enter “bet 1825-2-25 and 1835”, I get “Bet 1825 and Feb 25 1835” which 
isn’t correct either.



Also note the missing comma after the month …



Has anyone else seen this?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON





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RE: [LegacyUG] Cause of Death

[C.G. Ouimet]

Ah ... Ah ... Thanks ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: March 22, 2014 02:47 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cause of Death

If you add cause of Death to the Medical Notes in the provided fields, it will 
show by default on the Family View.

When you select to show Cause of Death on reports, the Medical Notes is where 
this is pulled from.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


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 I've placing cause of death info in Death Notes but today decided to
 add Cause of Death to the Family View.



 I then created a list of individuals with Death Notes to copy those to
 Cause of Death. But even with Cause of Death in Family View, Cause of
 Death doesn't show in the Individual's Information screen.



 What am I missing?


 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON




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RE: [LegacyUG] Cause of Death

[C.G. Ouimet]

Thanks … I was looking for Cause of Death in Events, not Medical note …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: March 22, 2014 03:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Cause of Death



Is it just the data that is not showing, or do you not even have the 
labels/fields for it on your family view?



The data must be entered in the Primary and/or Secondary Cause of Death Fields 
on the Medical tab of the Individual’s Notes window.  It sounds like you did 
this.



Family View allows the display of 5 data items.  Birth, Baptism/Christening, 
Death, and Burial are normally the first 4.  I think the last one by default is 
Cause of Death, but in any case this is probably the one you want to change to 
Cause of Death.  Click on the Label and you get the customize window.  Click on 
the … button for the line you want Cause of Death to appear on (presumably the 
5th line) and select Cause of Death from the drop down menu.  You can then 
customize the labels if you want.







From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:34 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Cause of Death



I’ve placing cause of death info in Death Notes but today decided to add Cause 
of Death to the Family View.



I then created a list of individuals with Death Notes to copy those to Cause of 
Death. But even with Cause of Death in Family View, Cause of Death doesn’t show 
in the Individual’s Information screen.



What am I missing?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON





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[LegacyUG] Events

[C.G. Ouimet]

Is there a way to distinguish between Legacy events and user defined events?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Events

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Because ... LOL


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From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: March 22, 2014 06:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Events

On 23 Mar 2014 00:02, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

 Is there a way to distinguish between Legacy events and user defined events?

Why would you want to?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Multiple versions installed?

[C.G. Ouimet]

You could always remove your customer number when you want to test something …





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Kingston ON



From: Bob Hansen [mailto:bobstr...@gmail.com]
Sent: March 22, 2014 07:21 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Multiple versions installed?



Is it possible to install the basic version AND the Deluxe version on the same 
system?



I am working with other users, some have Deluxe,  some have basic versions.  
When explaining what to do, I want to see the same/missing options as them.   
Often doing in group training sessions.



 I hate to confuse them by going backwards to explain they can't do what I 
suggested.  Having versions open would fix that.



Thanks for listening.















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From: C.G. Ouimet

Date:03/22/2014 6:02 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] Events



Is there a way to distinguish between Legacy events and user defined events?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON





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RE: [LegacyUG] Multiple versions installed?

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Actually, any character in the Customer Number field seems to revert to 
standard …



A little checkbox for Standard or Deluxe features might be handy for some 
people who share files with others … Hint hint …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: March 22, 2014 08:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple versions installed?



Not quite that simple. It would need to be changed to Legacy8 I think for 
standard vers an back to your private code for Deluxe.



On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:01 PM, BobsTree2-Gmail bobstr...@gmail.com wrote:

Too obvious, could not possibly be that simple.  ... what is the real answer?  
g .



Thanks

Bob


On Mar 22, 2014, at 19:40, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

You could always remove your customer number when you want to test something …





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RE: [LegacyUG] Pressing escape in Notes exited and lost my added typing

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There are three possibilities throughout v8 with the Exc key ...

1. Exit without warning
2. Exit with warning
3. Nothing

Keyboard users need to use caution due to these inconsistencies and others like 
my favourite beef with tab orders in the various windows ...

The mouse is safer which is really unfortunate ... I tend to be 50/50 
mouse/keyboard which is fine in all apps except Legacy.


C.G. Ouimet
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Sent: March 14, 2014 11:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pressing escape in Notes exited and lost my added typing

Confirmed. Problem report raised to have this fixed. I also found several other 
screens where the Escape Key closed the screen without warning and allowing the 
user to save their changes so I added those to the issue.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 14/03/2014 12:55 AM, J.M. Jay Ingalls wrote:
 Bumped my mouse while typing in new info in an individuals general
 notes, got garbage on the screen, pressed escape to get rid of the
 on-screen garbage, and Legacy 8 exited the notes without a warning or
 option to save what I had typed. Not nice.

 Jay Ingalls



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RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

[C.G. Ouimet]

V800-414.

120,902 individuals.

No User ID Duplicates.


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-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: March 11, 2014 05:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

Curious.  I tried on my database which is about the same size and it only found 
12 duplicates and all seem to be correctly identified.  The duplicated id shows 
in the title line of duplicates window.  Did you notice anything strange about 
the ID #'s it was displaying as duplicate?  Were they truncated?  Ignoring the 
alpha component?

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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for duplicate 
ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search, Find 
duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID 
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past with 
previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the Name List, 
I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported data long 
ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID numbers 
starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from his book. The 
book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she added to her data 
are descendants of some one in his book. She handled that by using the number 
for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a dash number indicating the 
number of generations an individual is removed from B1. So, there can be many 
descendants with the same ID number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People with ID 
Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few 
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like there 
is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls



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RE: [LegacyUG] Best way to rename pdf files used within Legacy?

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Just search for IrfanView on Google …





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Kingston ON



From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: March 01, 2014 12:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Best way to rename pdf files used within Legacy?



Dave,

Thanks, I am not familiar with that Plug-in  And I dont see any ones on my 
list other than the one that allows you to SAVE in .pdf format.

What is the plugin name or .dll file?

Thanks

Jay





On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Dave Naylor nay...@unforgettable.com wrote:

On 28 Feb 2014  Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:

 I had many .pdf files that just contained one picture...
 I just opened them and did a screen capture and saved the screen capture as
 the same filename.jpg
 (I use the free irfanview, but there are many options for photo/image
 software)

Jay, I'm surprised you go through all those extra steps when you say
you use the free IrfanView.  If you install IrfanView's free add-ons
you can open PDFs directly in IrfanView and then all you have to do
is save them in a different format.

Cheers! -- Dave N.
--
  David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Updating two family files

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Much much simpler to maintain one big file (more than 120,000 in mine) and 
splitting off pieces for friends and family than maintaining two or more and 
occasionally having to combine and having to deal with duplicates ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: March 01, 2014 02:46 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updating two family files

Hi Pat,

If I were you, I would consider why you are keeping two separate files, and do 
you need to keep doing that?

If you continue with your present setup (ie two separate files plus the 
combined one) the only way to keep it all current is to update two files with 
each new piece of information. Very tedious, and if you're anything like me one 
day you will forget to update the second file and then it's all out of sync.

Why not just go forward with the new combined file? Then you will only have to 
enter data once, you will have only one set of master files (locations, 
sources, ...), and life would be much easier for you. And when you discover 
that your mother was related to your father in some obscure way (as many of us 
do!) you've already got everything in the one file ready to make that 
connection.

You may have good reasons for keeping your two sides of the family separate, 
which is why I'm saying to think about it, not to just do what I say. :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Pat Hickin said the following on 2/03/2014 8:08 a.m.:
 For some years I have maintained two separate Legacy files, one for my
 maternal side  one for my paternal side.

 I have just created a third file, which is a merger of the two files,
 for uploading onto a dna website.

 Now I want to add some info about an individual and I want the new
 info to be in both the paternal database and in the merged file.  I
 anticipate doing more of the same.

 What is the most efficient way to go about doing that (adding info to
 both the merged file and, e.g., the paternal file?

 Pat



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RE: [LegacyUG] Copy Role Sentences

[C.G. Ouimet]

Yes, this has been around a while and not yet addressed as one of the 
miscellaneous fixes.



Very frustrating for keyboard users …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: February 09, 2014 09:41 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copy Role Sentences





On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:

Brian,



I am not requesting the ability to copy roles between events.  I want to be 
able to copy customized sentences from one role to another role within the same 
event.



Using the Residence event as an example - I create a Role : Son  - in order to 
have my sentences read better, I have customized all 8 possible sentences ( all 
fields filled, place and date field filled, etc.).



Now, still in the Residence event I want to create a new Role - Wife.  Rather 
than having to go through and customize each of the eight sentences again, I am 
asking for the ability to copy the Son role (complete with customized 
sentences) and then rename it Wife.



Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI




Brian,



I just found the option that you are talking about.  Copying the sentences 
works like a charm and saves a ton of time and effort.





Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



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RE: [LegacyUG] Copy Role Sentences

[C.G. Ouimet]

Reply to wrong thread somehow … !!!





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From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: February 24, 2014 05:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copy Role Sentences



Yes, this has been around a while and not yet addressed as one of the 
miscellaneous fixes.



Very frustrating for keyboard users …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: February 09, 2014 09:41 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copy Role Sentences





On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net wrote:

Brian,



I am not requesting the ability to copy roles between events.  I want to be 
able to copy customized sentences from one role to another role within the same 
event.



Using the Residence event as an example - I create a Role : Son  - in order to 
have my sentences read better, I have customized all 8 possible sentences ( all 
fields filled, place and date field filled, etc.).



Now, still in the Residence event I want to create a new Role - Wife.  Rather 
than having to go through and customize each of the eight sentences again, I am 
asking for the ability to copy the Son role (complete with customized 
sentences) and then rename it Wife.



Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI




Brian,



I just found the option that you are talking about.  Copying the sentences 
works like a charm and saves a ton of time and effort.





Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



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RE: [LegacyUG] arrow key

[C.G. Ouimet]

Yes, this has been around a while and not yet addressed as one of the 
miscellaneous fixes.

Very frustrating for keyboard users …


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

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From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: February 24, 2014 05:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] arrow key

On 24 Feb 2014 21:16, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:

 When I click on the “Index” tab the curser is in the Surname box.  I
 start typing a last name and then use the down arrow to start to
 scroll and the curser jumps to the Given name box.  Once this has
 happened one time, I can then put the curser back in the Surname box
 and type any number of letters and use the down arrow to scroll.  When
 I get out of the “Index” tap and come back the same thing happens.

 Is this the way it is supposed to be?

What you're describing is the behaviour in version 7.5 In 8.0 the down arrow 
behaves like the Tab key. I would consider this to be a bug.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Verify your subscription to legacyusergroup mailing list

[C.G. Ouimet]

The lesson is … Don’t unsubscribe unless it’s for a long period otherwise 
you’ll miss more than you bargained for …





C.G. Ouimet

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From: Lee Bruch [mailto:lbr...@nwlink.com]
Sent: February 18, 2014 05:26 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Verify your subscription to legacyusergroup mailing 
list



Carol:  If you’ve read the almost weekly posts while you were subscribed, you 
probably know about this on-going problem and what you should do.  If not, I 
remind you: many people can not successfully subscribe or resubscribe on their 
own.  It’s been an unsolved on-going problem for years.  What you must do:  
Contact supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and ask them to reset your Legacy Users 
Group Account



From: Carolyn [mailto:carog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:24 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Verify your subscription to legacyusergroup mailing list



Hi there



I have clicked on the link to confirm my sub to the LUG, I am a returning LUG 
er after a short holiday, but I am not receiving any of the messages. Can you 
please fix this for me.



Cheers

Carolyn Williams





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RE: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

[C.G. Ouimet]

Re: Also, your original post did imply that the Windows shortcut keys for Copy 
and Paste required you to be copying from another application.

Windows short-cut keys work within and between applications ... i.e. everywhere 
...


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-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: February 07, 2014 04:02 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

On 06/02/2014 23:40, Gene Young wrote:
 Boilerplate refers to text that you use often or repeatedly.
Yes, I understand the term.

However, I must be being a bit dense, I think because ...
   In
 Legacy it is even faster to use the function keys to do this as you
 are not switching between individuals or programs.

I can't think of many instances in Legacy where I would want to copy anything 
from one field to another *within the same individual,*

Also your original post did imply that the Windows shortcut keys for Copy and 
Paste required you to be copying from another application.

But I don't think we need to pursue this.  I'm glad you raised the topic 
because I have learned something which I am sure is going to useful.


--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Another Potential Problem Bug

[C.G. Ouimet]

When I know the burial date but not the death date, I set the date date to Abt 
the burial date like ...

Died:   Abt 1765-1-25
Buried: 1765-1-25



C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
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Sent: February 07, 2014 05:16 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Another Potential Problem Bug

Version 8.0.0.397

Individual died: Jun Q 1924
  buried: 16 Jun 1924

PP text: Burial too late after death.

'Jun Q' as an accepted date, covers the period 1st April through 30th June.
Period set at the default 30 days after death. The burial date is within this 
period, therefore it shouldn't be flagged. Suggest the check is made using the 
start of the period to x days (30 in this case) after the end of the period.

As an added complexity, in theory it's possible for someone to die towards the 
end of a GRO quarter, and be buried at the start of the next month in the next 
quarter. Eg Jun Q and Sep Q could only mean 2 or 3 days between events.
Difficult to see how this can be resolved.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Another Potential Problem Bug

[C.G. Ouimet]

I understand the bug but why a 2nd Qtr death when the burial is known as Jun 16?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
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Sent: February 07, 2014 05:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another Potential Problem Bug

On 08 Feb 2014 00:34, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

 When I know the burial date but not the death date, I set the date
 date to Abt the burial date like ...

 Died: Abt 1765-1-25
 Buried:   1765-1-25

Not the point :-) There is a problem (probably more) when using the GRO quarter 
dates.

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RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - making text private

[C.G. Ouimet]

Surrounding the text in double square brackets, as shown below, works well ...

public [[private]]


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

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Sent: February 06, 2014 06:55 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - making text private

On 06 Feb 2014 11:39, Sysadm wrote:

 I’m trying to set some text in the General Notes window of an
 individual to private. The help file states that you can use the
 Ctrl-P combination to do this... but it does nothing for me. All other
 combinations work... Ctrl-B for bold, Ctrl-U for underline... etc.

Works for me! You must select the bit of private text first, before pressing 
Ctrl-P

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RE: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

[C.G. Ouimet]

Shift-Del to cut and Shift-Ins to paste has always been so much more intuitive 
to me ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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Sent: February 06, 2014 08:30 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

On 06/02/2014 01:04, Gene Young wrote:
 I have just noticed a serious bug in the latest build, 8.0.0.397.
 Whereas in previous builds you could use the F9, F11, and F12 buttons
 to copy and paste, in this build they do nothing.  Using these
 functions saved me literally thousands of key-strokes.  I certainly
 hope that this is an error and not a deliberate regression.

But is it really so much more awkward to use the more-or-less-univeral Ctr-C, 
Ctrl-V and Ctrl-X?  (Never knew you could use the F keys as you
describe.)
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

[C.G. Ouimet]

Oh yes they are (see 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/keyboard-shortcuts#keyboard-shortcuts=windows-7)

Shift+Delete= Delete the selected item
Ctrl+Insert = Copy the selected item
Shift+Insert= Paste the selected item


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Sent: February 06, 2014 10:46 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

On 06 Feb 2014 15:59, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

 Shift-Del to cut and Shift-Ins to paste has always been so much more 
 intuitive to me ...

Yes, but they're not the 'standard' Microsoft-designated keys. Ctrl-C/Z/V are.
The function keys are not.

--
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[LegacyUG] Origins Report Issue

[C.G. Ouimet]

I hadn't run this report for a while so I looked at it again only to get 
Runtime Error 3265. Item not found in this collection followed by a Legacy 
800-397 shutdown. I tried it with 24, 16, 12, 6 and 3 generations.

I ran Check/Repair and then ran the report again but with the same results ...

C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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Sent: February 06, 2014 05:29 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Origins report question/suggestion - unknown location

Before I submit an enhancement request, I'd like to ask in case I'm missing 
something:

1)
In the Origins report, it does not appear to take into account people with an 
unknown location.  Are these people just disregarded, or is there an option I'm 
missing that can be turned on to show unknown country?

2)
In the Origins report, if I pick Include only ancestors at oldest generation, 
I get an FYI pop-up that reads:
After looking back. . . generation 7 (the oldest found) did not contain any 
recognizable countries
Only option is OK - I click it and I end up with an basically empty report.  It 
has a title and one line that reads In the 7th generation back, the origins of 
xxx are:  (with xxx being the person highlighted) I like the FYI notice, but:
* It would be nice if it told me WHICH PERSON had the problem
* It would be nice if it produced the report anyway but with one of the 
countries labeled unknown.

I'm using build 8.0.0.397

Bob






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RE: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?

[C.G. Ouimet]

A good workaround but is this going to be fixed?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: robs_familytree . [mailto:robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca]
Sent: February 05, 2014 12:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?



Good work around thanks! I had missed Geoff doing that.

I'm glad I checked! I won't bother reporting it.

Thanks!

Rob Miller
Toronto, ON



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From: rgstrongge...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:48:43 -0500

I just enter a blank line before any text in those boxes and then it appears as 
I want. That is how Geoff does it in his book.



From: robs_familytree . mailto:robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca

Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:45 AM

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?



I tested it in the other boxes, and the indent is also lost on the Master Text 
and Master Comments, but the Detail Comments keeps the indent.

Thanks,

Rob

Rob Miller
Toronto, ON



  _

From: robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:39:50 -0500

I just transcribed a source into the Detail Text box. The first sentence has an 
indent (which I included), but as soon as I save the source the text becomes 
flush with the left margin. It only seems to happen in the first line. I will 
report the issue, but wanted to be sure it wasn't just me or my computer.

Thanks!



Rob Miller
Toronto, Ontario



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[LegacyUG] v800-397 Internet

[C.G. Ouimet]

Legacy Home page not connecting to internet for news or updates.



Legacy fails to connect to Family Search.



V800-385 was fine.



Anyone else with these issues?







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RE: [LegacyUG] customize descendant display

[C.G. Ouimet]

Say more?





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 20, 2014 04:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] customize descendant display



Why does the options button on descendant view not work when you need it to?



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RE: [LegacyUG] customize descendant display

[C.G. Ouimet]

I’ve had no such issue on any v8 builds …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 20, 2014 08:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] customize descendant display



Yes. Build 385. Of course now I can't duplicate it as it's working. I believe 
I've seen other mentions of this on the not too distant archives.



On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

What build? Mine are working fine in 8.0.0.385 which was issued this
weekend.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 20-Jan-2014 4:52 AM, Randy Clark wrote:
 Why does the options button on descendant view not work when you need it to?



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[LegacyUG] Runtime Error 9

[C.G. Ouimet]

Subscript out of range



I'm seeing a significant increase in this error (and the subsequent
unceremonious shutdown of Legacy) since updating to build 381.



Anyone else seeing this?



And yes, I have done the File-Repair thing many times .





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RE: [LegacyUG] Updating to 381 Uninstalling/Reinstalling

[C.G. Ouimet]

I get them on the Legacy v8 Home Page ...


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Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Bob Austen [mailto:rgaus...@telus.net]
Sent: January 17, 2014 10:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Updating to 381 Uninstalling/Reinstalling

I seldom get the notification via Legacy about an update.  It always says I 
have the latest build.  I live in Canada and hear about the upgrades from a 
colleague in Scotland.  Perhaps the notifications to update are regional so as 
not to overwhelm the system.  I have to go to the Legacy website and look for 
the updates and download/install from there.

The procedure now treats the upgrade like a new installation, complete with 
emailing me a temporary password.  And there is also the entire 66MB file to 
download each time which can present a problem for those with slower 
connections.

Bob Austen



-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Updating to 381 Uninstalling/Reinstalling

Assuming you already have version 8 installed, the recommended procedure is to:
Run Legacy
Go to the Legacy Home tab
Click the Updates label

The rest is pretty much automatic other than to respond to a couple of 
confirmation and configuration popups.





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[LegacyUG] Legacy v8, Build 381

[C.G. Ouimet]

One of the fixes is . Improved the size of family files. The last build
caused them to be larger than was needed.



Interestingly, mine grew with Build 381, although not by much.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Shared event sentence

[C.G. Ouimet]

Yes. I did submit it as a suggestion but they don’t seem to reply to those.



Perhaps you could submit a problem report. They reply to those.





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Jim Christenson [mailto:jc8...@live.com]
Sent: January 14, 2014 12:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Shared event sentence



“This event was shared from…….”



Added to the end of every shared event gets old very quickly.  Unchecking a 
checkbox in event options looks like it should work but does not. A bug?



Jim



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[LegacyUG] Settings Printout

[C.G. Ouimet]

My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy 
default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify 
the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in 
Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.)

Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's 
request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs.

Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics.

Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, 
I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one 
concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main 
Legacy settings or any report or everything.

Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ...

C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON





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RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

[C.G. Ouimet]

Indeed ...


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Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: ChasH [mailto:howell...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 11, 2014 01:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

Another time it would be helpful is when you have to reinstall Legacy to remedy 
some unfixable problem. I had to do that once.
On 1/11/2014 12:44 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to
 Legacy default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to
 hopefully identify the one setting, or combination of settings, that
 triggered a display bug in Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had
 similar requests from Tech Support.)

 Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about 
 Sherry's request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs.

 Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on 
 diagnostics.

 Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR 
 files, I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy 
 Settings in one concise report without numerous print screens. The user could 
 select the main Legacy settings or any report or everything.

 Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ...

 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON





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RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

[C.G. Ouimet]

Obviously, I agree …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 11, 2014 03:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout



C.G., et al,



I agree with you.



For some reason, not quite making sense at least to me, there has been a lot of 
disagreement from several people including support about the usefulness or need 
for this type of a report.



Back in the day they might have argued there was no need for automatic 
transmissions, after all cars work just fine with a stickshift.



I have yet to hear a really good argument why we can't have this report.




Larry Lee

ldlee...@gmail.com





On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

My original query was in response to Sherry to reset my Legacy to Legacy 
default settings and then enabling my settings one by one to hopefully identify 
the one setting, or combination of settings, that triggered a display bug in 
Pedigree View. (I'm sure many have had similar requests from Tech Support.)

Saving my settings is easy but having a list of them to then go about Sherry's 
request would make it much easier to meet her diagnostic needs.

Without that list, I'm not willing to spend that amount of time on diagnostics.

Suspecting that Tech Support already have a tool to decipher cryptic USR files, 
I submitted a suggestion ... We need a way to printout Legacy Settings in one 
concise report without numerous print screens. The user could select the main 
Legacy settings or any report or everything.

Then, Sherry asked why I would ever need such a thing ...

C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON





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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

[C.G. Ouimet]

Yes to both … AKA as in Also Known As … By self or others in my view …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: lio . [mailto:likeitouts...@hotmail.com]
Sent: January 11, 2014 05:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs



Thanks to everyone for your replies. I'm still fuzzy on it though.

A Scottish ancestor's birth name was Ewen, but after a few years in Canada he 
started going by Evan.

So, I entered Evan as an AKA.

Often he on documents he is recorded as Ivan. He never signs Ivan, but others 
(perhaps having trouble with his Scottish accent) would record him as Ivan.

1. Would you record Ivan as an AKA? He never went by it, but was often recorded 
as it.

2. What about the times Ewen was recorded as Ewan or Ewon. Spelling mistakes. 
Would you record Ewan and Ewon as an AKA?

Sorry for asking my question again, but had to use some personal examples for 
better understanding.

Leo



 From: singh...@erols.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:28:50 -0500

 You could be right, of course.

 Cheryl


 CE WOOD wrote:
  The main reason for me to use many AKAs is the same as an
  earlier poster - so I can find information about someone
  when that person is referred to by one of his sometimes many
  AKAs. When searching the index of a book, say, knowing all
  the names a person has been called (not being funny here),
  makes it possible to know if that person has been mentioned
  in the book.
 
  For me, with thousands of medieval and earlier individuals,
  people were often a duke of this, an earl of that, a comet
  od the other, etc. The women too. These titles changed too;
  some were added, some were taken away by a king, then
  restored; some were called differently depending whether the
  author was Italian, French, Welsh, etc.
 
  Here's one with only a few AKAs that are very relevant when
  searching:
 
  England, AEthelwulf, King of
  Wessex, AEthelwulf, King of England and
  West Saxons, AEthelwulf, King of
 
 
  And then the women:
 
  Northumberland, AEthelreda of
  Allerdale, AEthelreda of
  Dunbar, AEthelreda of
  Dunbar, Octreda of
  Northumbria, Uchtreda of
 
  Northumbria, Sibyl Björnsdóttir of
  Bearsson, Sibylla
  Northumbria, AElfled of
  Northumbria, Suben Björnsdóttir of
 
  Don't get me listing all the Welsh and Celtic AKAs that you
  need to research any one individual in those lands!
 
  While I'm working on someone, I remember that, say, that:
 
  Clare, Gilbert the Red de
  -was also known as-
 
  Gloucester, 6th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of
  -as well as-
 
  Hertford, 7th Earl Gilbert the Red de Clare, of
 
 
  But when I'm working on someone else, I may have forgotten,
  so when I come upon reference to the 6th Earl of Gloucester
  or the 7th Earl of Hertford, I can find out by a simple
  search of my index if this is someone I want know more about.
 
  I also use AKAs to have French royalty, say, listed together
  in the index with an AKA of France even if she had a last
  name. Of course, many of those were not known by a last
  name, she would be known as Marguerite of France, say.
 
  As far as that goes, the Plantagenets were never known as
  Plantagenets. That is a fabricated last name to help us.
  Edmund, Earl of Cambridge was also known as Edmund of
  Langley, as Edmund, Duke of York, but not as Edmund
  Plantagenet. It helps us to put in that he was the 1st Duke
  of York and to use Plantagenet as a last name, but
  Plantagenet of actually an AKA.
 
  All of this says nothing about the fact that English
  spelling was not standardized until the 1800s, American
  English even later. Read any early English or American wills
  for examples of spelling variations of the same word within
  the same document.
 
  To sum up, AKAs make research easier. What you want to put
  in your reports depends on your audience.
 
 
  CE
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Cheers, Carolyn
 
   From: singh...@erols.com
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs
   Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:16:42 -0500
  
   And, if one does NOT print them on reports, one will be
   answering questions of the But the name's wrong on that
   deed variety.
  
   And, recording 36 different AKAs on 200 different people
   gets a bit tricky too as one deliberates on whether one
   includes qwsrf on father and both sons when it has been
   spotted only father and one son.
  
   Then too why bother inputting something you don't want to
   output?
  
   Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
I was going to say “good point” to Cheryl’s
  comment but your
response is even “gooder”. Legacy makes these
  things all so
flexible for the user. Just gotta love a program that
  does that!
   
*From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:01 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG

RE: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout

[C.G. Ouimet]

I know but there should be something to get them all at once instead of a lot 
of screen shots ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: January 05, 2014 04:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Settings Printout


C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 Is there a way to print all the settings (Options-Customize)?


you could take a screen shot and print that.



--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

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Have mapped that network Drive to a letter?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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Sent: January 05, 2014 08:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Does anyone know how I might change the default location for media files.
The customise option 6.2 only seems to allow a linked drive (from the dropdown 
list) and having set up a network drive I'd rather use this. I have managed to 
set up my family files to use the network drive but can't see a workaround for 
media files.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

[C.G. Ouimet]

In Windows Explorer, right click on the main folder on that network drive and 
select Map Network Drive. Then go to Legacy and assign media to that mapped 
drive or a child folder of it ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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Sent: January 05, 2014 08:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Unfortunately not, but it does have a name and I've got the IP Address.
G

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Sent: 05 January 2014 13:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Have mapped that network Drive to a letter?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: January 05, 2014 08:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Does anyone know how I might change the default location for media files.
The customise option 6.2 only seems to allow a linked drive (from the dropdown 
list) and having set up a network drive I'd rather use this. I have managed to 
set up my family files to use the network drive but can't see a workaround for 
media files.
Graham




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RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

[C.G. Ouimet]

Good. Keep in mind that if you map to the drive or an upper folder on that 
drive, you may now reach all sub-folders in applications that don't recognize 
network drives.


C.G. Ouimet
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-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: January 05, 2014 08:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

:) that did it, thanks
G

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: 05 January 2014 13:42
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

In Windows Explorer, right click on the main folder on that network drive and 
select Map Network Drive. Then go to Legacy and assign media to that mapped 
drive or a child folder of it ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: January 05, 2014 08:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Unfortunately not, but it does have a name and I've got the IP Address.
G

-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 January 2014 13:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Have mapped that network Drive to a letter?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: January 05, 2014 08:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Media file location

Does anyone know how I might change the default location for media files.
The customise option 6.2 only seems to allow a linked drive (from the dropdown 
list) and having set up a network drive I'd rather use this. I have managed to 
set up my family files to use the network drive but can't see a workaround for 
media files.
Graham




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[LegacyUG] Settings Printout

[C.G. Ouimet]

Is there a way to print all the settings (Options-Customize)?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Update Patch Notes

[C.G. Ouimet]

There is a summary of changes at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp but it’s not complete in 
that there are a number of “Miscellaneous Fixes” entries …





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From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: January 04, 2014 03:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Update Patch Notes



Just curious about this because I have not made the switch to v8 and have no 
plans to do so until the dust settles but typically on all other software 
packages there is usually an short text file entitled something along the lines 
of “What was fixed and/or changed with this patch”. I haven’t seen any mention 
of this for the Legacy v8 rollout but I have seen a lot of messages similar to 
“has anybody noticed that this was fixed or this was changed….”. Surely the 
programmers management team has all this written on their white board of bug 
swatting and would be very easy to offer.



Brian in CA





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RE: [LegacyUG] Update Patch Notes

[C.G. Ouimet]

My  request for more detailed update histories was answered with something like 
Tech Support too busy fixing to document …





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From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 04, 2014 06:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Update Patch Notes



Yes, I'd like to see something other than Miscellaneous Fixes.  I don't see a 
fix to a problem I had with source details not being created properly starting 
with Build 8.0.0.361.  I'm still on Build 8.0.0.358 since everything is working 
fine for me.  I've seen too many complaints for builds after that to bother 
with updating.



Bill Boswell



From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Update Patch Notes



There is a summary of changes at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp but it’s not complete in 
that there are a number of “Miscellaneous Fixes” entries …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: January 04, 2014 03:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Update Patch Notes



Just curious about this because I have not made the switch to v8 and have no 
plans to do so until the dust settles but typically on all other software 
packages there is usually an short text file entitled something along the lines 
of “What was fixed and/or changed with this patch”. I haven’t seen any mention 
of this for the Legacy v8 rollout but I have seen a lot of messages similar to 
“has anybody noticed that this was fixed or this was changed….”. Surely the 
programmers management team has all this written on their white board of bug 
swatting and would be very easy to offer.



Brian in CA





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[LegacyUG] Ancestor/Descendant Interest

[C.G. Ouimet]

Can you say more about Ancestor/Descendant Interest? What is it? How do you use 
it?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: January 01, 2014 06:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] how to show end of line

Hi Kim,

It would help a little to know why and where you want to show end of line.

Legacy has a couple of tools that may help and save using up a tag number.

I don't use tags for things that can be found easily - but this is where the 
why and where comes in.

Legacy has a search that will find them. See the Miscellaneous tab.

There's a search for direct line ancestors with no parents and another for the 
entire file for linked individuals with no parents - though this includes 
people who may not be linked to your main tree and so may need to be used in 
connection with another search.

I only have one file for my family research. I find it too muddling to have 
people in more than one file so years ago I merged my little surname study and 
village study into my main file and have never regretted it. It means I have a 
lot of little trees and unlinked people in my file but they do no harm (and can 
be seen in the View -
Trees) Now with the Duplicate check feature, I'm instantly alerted to the fact 
I may already have someone in the file. It was driving me crazy to find I'd 
updated someone who was part of my family in my little surname study but not in 
my main file - and finding other people in the village were actually family. 
Yes I could have then used Split Screen or some other way to copy and merge 
these people over but for me it's far easier not to.

I've also done some research for cousins in law etc and it's all there too.

So if I were doing this I'd tag the group I was interested in and then run this 
search on the whole file for linked individuals with no parents and then search 
within that search list for those tagged x.

Another way: Use the Ancestor/Descendant Interest. This is a feature I don't 
even have turned on. It's at Options - Customise 2.7 and it's a Family File 
specific setting. When it is on you have two small boxes on Individual 's 
Information Edit screen which can be set from
0 to 3  These can be searched on so you can find all with Ancestor Interest set 
at 3, for example.

Another way: Add [[end of line]] to the given name. Then it is obvious in the 
Name List and Index View but doesn't affect output.

Another way: Use the suffix field - again making use of privacy brackets.

Another way: enter a To-Do with a distinctive category so you can get a list.

I'm sure you can think of others.

It all depends on why and where you want to mark them.

Cathy


At 07:47 PM 1/01/2014, you wrote:
Hi to all and Happy New Year.
Does anyone know how to show an end of line in Legacy 8. Done a little
research on one of my families and it's showing 'end of line', I will
keep researching but was wondering. I have used my # 5 tag to show an
end of line family but is there a better way?
Thanks in advance
Kim




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RE: [LegacyUG] source on Individual information not showing

[C.G. Ouimet]

The source symbol will not appear on Birth, Baptism, Death or Burial facts on 
the Individual Information screen as they are not in the lower event section.

However, Birth, Baptism, Death and Burial labels will be red if sourced.


C.G. Ouimet
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-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: December 27, 2013 10:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source on Individual information not showing

On 27/12/2013 14:13, Kim Jones wrote:
 So I have just cited a master source and then entered a new source for
 a birth index that I found, but in the individual information on the
 new events/facts where there are symbols for either sharing/sources
 pictures/PP there is no source showing.

 I've checked and rechecked to make sure the master source is correct
 and checked my event source. I notice that the source book picture is
 showing there's a source but that little book symbol on my event is
 not showing.

 Does anyone have any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong?

When you look at the Assigned Sources screen for that Individual is the 
newly-cited Source there?  Is the Source symbol displaying for other Sourced 
Events for that Individual?  (If there are no other Sourced Events, just add 
something to see what happens - you can delete it immediately afterwards.)  
What happens if you add the same Event  Source to someone else?

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

[C.G. Ouimet]

New evidence suggesting operating systems pre-date computers ...

C.G. Ouimet
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-Original Message-
From: Brant Gibbard [mailto:bgibb...@ca.inter.net]
Sent: December 27, 2013 11:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: FW: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

I suspect you meant 2014? Who knew Windows XO existed before the First World 
War ;-)

Brant Gibbard
Toronto, ON
http://bgibbard.ca


-Original Message-
From: Karen and Jim [mailto:sindbe...@att.net]
Sent: December-27-13 11:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

Hi y'all,

I think there has been a lot of good advice on this very important question.
First, does your present version work properly for you.
Does it do all you want it to do?
Second, do you want more, another feature or three?
Third, is the update version really ready?
Or is it having issues?

I'm still using version 5, since it does all I wish of it (except fully work in 
Linux OS).  I've read about the new features, but they don't raise my heart 
beat.
Maybe this will change, maybe not.
But I do see that some of you delve much more deeply and you do need a much 
more comprehensive version than I do.

Personally I like speed and updating to a newer version will not give me 
greater speed.  In fact the newer the version, the slower it is.  I would like 
to see Legacy make improvements on responsiveness.

BTW I think M$ support for Windoz XP stops in March 1914.

JimS

On 12/26/2013 11:34 PM, John B. Lisle wrote:
 Cheryl, Orinda, et al,

 First, COPY COPY COPY was just for emphasis. If you convert your only
 7.4 family file, you cannot go back.

 FS gets bug fixes with many new L8 builds. But Millennia is not
 sending out new builds of L7.5 so that version is not getting those updates.

 I have been using FS heavily with L8 build 367 all week without any
 problems. I may be a tester, but I get the same software all other
 users get. That does not mean that I have used every function of LFS.
 But I have connected folks to my FF, exchanged data both ways, done
 merges, marked possible dups as non-matches, etc.

 It could be that the problem for them is not with Legacy, but with
 their connection to FS.

 john.

 At 09:25 PM 12/26/2013, singhals wrote:
 A good point, John.  Still, as often as they're changing FS, that may
 not be true by the time one manages to d/l and install the update.
 Then too, on another list, there seems to be something non-functional
 about FS this week in that nearly everyone (across a wide spectrum of
 browsers, computers, expertise, and locales) has had some problem
 with it.

 FWIW

 Cheryl

 John B. Lisle wrote:
 Denise, Helen, et al,

 One of the challenges with using 7.4,0.45 - or any version of 7.4 -
 is that the version of FamilySearch that comes with that does not
 support the current FamilySearch. It only works, if it works at all,
 with the version of FamilySearch that was recently made read only
 and will shortly be discontinued.

 If you wish to use Family Search Tree, you need to be on the latest
 version of Legacy 7.5.

 Further, since Legacy 8 was introduced, Legacy 7.5 was likely
 frozen, including the FamilySearch add on. The updates to that will
 likely only be available with Legacy 8.

 The best way to look at L8 and see if you might wish to move there
 is to download the free version and install it.

 Then COPY COPY COPY you family file to where ever you want to use
 and only open the copy with L8. If you do that you can still keep
 working with L7.obsolete.

 Leon's list of new features should be enough to take a peak.
 But L8 is from a quality point of view a much more reliable tool
 than earlier version. It is different and some of those differences
 will need to get used to.

 john.

 At 03:47 PM 12/26/2013, Denise wrote:
 I, too, have Vewsion 7.4.0.45 and am disinclined to upgrade. My
 version works just fine, and seeing all the emails about various
 'bugs' gives me pause.


 On Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:15 AM, ci...@treadles.ca
 ci...@treadles.ca wrote:
 Many of these bugs that were supposedly fixed in version
 7.5.0.278 I've
 never come across. There are many features in the program that
 apply to the USA only and if the bug is there, I'd never find them
 and they wouldn't bother me. And the improvements in 7.5 weren't
 improvements to me, I just plain didn't want them.

 At this
 point, there are just too many things that are not
 debugged or missing
 in comparison with version 7.5.
 And too many useless-to-me bells and whistles features.

 Good luck with your database.

 Helen





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