Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-17 Thread John Pattillo
Please remove me from being all copies from 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 1:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and
Ancestry.com

On 27 Dec 2016 at 11:35, William Boswell wrote:john

> One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of 
> them that there´s too many to go through individually.  I only mention 
> this because there could be information that I do not want to share if 
> it is going to a public tree.  Emails would also have email addresses 
> for living people who may not want their information shared.  And I 
> have found I might have made a controversial remark in notes that a 
> relative might see and take the wrong way (i.e. "so and so was an
alcoholic").

You can put such things as [[private]] notes by surrounding them with double
square brackets, and you can choose not to export [[private]] notes. 

I *think* there may also be a way of marking sources and private too, but
I'm not so sure about that.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-16 Thread Steve Hayes
On 26 Dec 2016 at 11:46, Jerry Murphy wrote:

> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to 
> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is 
> still true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than 
> re-keying them all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.

I've had no difficulty in copying FamilySearch sources to Legacy, without 
re-keying them.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-16 Thread Steve Hayes
On 27 Dec 2016 at 11:35, William Boswell wrote:

> One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of them that
> there´s too many to go through individually.  I only mention this because
> there could be information that I do not want to share if it is going to a
> public tree.  Emails would also have email addresses for living people who may
> not want their information shared.  And I have found I might have made a
> controversial remark in notes that a relative might see and take the wrong way
> (i.e. "so and so was an alcoholic").

You can put such things as [[private]] notes by surrounding them with double 
square brackets, and you can choose not to export [[private]] notes. 

I *think* there may also be a way of marking sources and private too, but I'm 
not so sure about that.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-10 Thread Leonard J. McCown
So very sorry, I am just seeing this Bill. I tried a search for Jezebel 
Boswell, born 1869 Maryland, and returned zero good matches! I tried your link 
and it did connect, but see the attached file for what it told me.

 

 

 <http://connect.ancestry.com/Profile/011ad334-0001---> 
https://c.mfcreative.com/lib/TGN/shared/assets/images/usericon.gif William 
Boswell has chosen to not make this tree publicly viewable. Click the "Contact 
whbos1" button below to contact the tree owner using Ancestry's anonymous 
Connection Service.

 

This private tree contains information about:

Jezebel Boswell

Born: 1869 in Maryland, USA

You will also find attached to this person

5362 people in this member tree

Contact WHBOS1

 

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 5:43 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

Leonard:

 

Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case you 
find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.

 

Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

William Boswell, I don’t mind testing, as I am a member. Just email me and tell 
me who to search for to find your tree.

 

Leonard

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell  wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her o

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread Brian Lightfoot
To my knowledge, there are three  types of trees on Ancestry: free, public, and 
private.



The public and private tree are established only by paid subscribers and can be 
viewed only by paid subscribers. All paid subscribers can view and search 
through any other public tree but trees that are established as private are not 
viewable by other subscribers without special provisions established and 
granted by the tree owner.



So the word public means public within the entire world of paid subscribers. 
The word private means private within the small, limited world of the owner of 
the tree and whomever is granted access by the owner. Free means no money is 
involved but owner of the tree and viewers of the tree must each establish 
their own free Ancestry account.



Here is the info taken directly from Ancestry's web page(s):



About Public Member Trees

This database contains family trees submitted to Ancestry by users who have 
indicated that their tree can be viewed by all Ancestry subscribers. 
(underscored added)



About Private Member Trees

This database contains family trees submitted to Ancestry by users who have 
indicated that their tree can only be viewed by Ancestry members to whom they 
have granted permission to see their tree.



So while, Henry Peterson has given the link for creating a "free account", be 
aware that anyone you invite to view your free tree will also have to establish 
an Ancestry account (name, password, and email address). But many relatives may 
balk at the idea of creating another identity on the Internet. Besides, once a 
person creates such a free account, Ancestry will begin the onslaught of emails 
inviting the new enrollee to join as a paid subscriber. To make matters worse, 
while a “free tree” owner can search other “public” trees, he  won’t be able to 
view any data unless he pays for a subscription. I have yet to find any other 
“free” tree data in a search so I believe that Ancestry excludes free trees 
from searches (but apparently they are included in searches made by paid 
subscribers).



When I uploaded my file a few years ago, I'm not sure if Legacy was aware of 
this "Gotcha" when they had that feature to "Upload Tree to Ancestry" enabled 
in their program. As someone else has already posted, the easiest way to get 
your tree on the internet is to use Ancestry’s free cousin web site, 
WorldConnect/Rootsweb which is fully searchable and free to everyone.





Brian in CA









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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Elizabeth Lindsay
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 5:29 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



Hi,

As far as I am aware, you need to register by setting up a user name, and then 
you should be able to see any public trees, but you do not have access to 
sources or to do research. You do not have to provide any financial information 
or credit card information.

I have given invitation to many people over the years and, only recently, I had 
one person who had problems accessing my public ancestry tree.

Elizabeth



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From: LegacyUserGroup [ <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Henry T. Peterson 
Jr.

Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2017 8:48 PM

To: 'Legacy User Group' < <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



Brian and Bill



There is a free account option.

 
<https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx> 
https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx



But, I don't know if you can view public trees.

I know that MOST of the searches and all of the "Hinting" is off limits until 
you begin to pay.



Regards

Henry





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From: LegacyUserGroup [ <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kelly

Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:28 AM

To: Legacy User Group < <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option.



Brian Kelly



On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:

> Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread Henry T. Peterson Jr.
As long as you use a NEW email address you can start a free account

Henry


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 9:37 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

Thank you.  I'll have to try that link.  Then again it might not work for me 
because I have a current subscription.

The only free option I have without a subscription is for my state 
(Pennsylvania).  I have to login through a special link to access state 
records, but it doesn't work through my tree which is what I use to search for 
records.  I have to use the main search page through that link which I hate 
because I have to manually enter everything.  To me it's not worth the trouble 
just because it's free.

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Henry T. Peterson Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:48 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

Brian and Bill

There is a free account option.
https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx

But, I don't know if you can view public trees.
I know that MOST of the searches and all of the "Hinting" is off limits until 
you begin to pay.

Regards
Henry


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option.

Brian Kelly

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:
> Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
> want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
> Legacy and Ancestry.com
>
> Leonard:
>
> Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
> not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case 
> you find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.
>
> Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts
>
> Bill Boswell


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread Ed Karsch
I believe that Ancestry recognizes a difference between an "account" and a 
"subscription". An account is free, and a subscription costs money. I had both 
my siblings submit saliva specimens to Ancestry (I ordered the kits) for DNA 
analysis. They each opened an "account" at Ancestry (at no cost) so that they 
could see the results of the analysis and also had access to my "public" tree. 
I have invited other non-subscribers to view my public tree, which they have 
done AFTER establishing an "account" with Ancestry. 

Ed Karsch 
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home 781-545-6672 
25 Doctors Hill Drive 
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- Original Message -

From: "William Boswell"  
To: "Legacy User Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:36:44 AM 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com 

Thank you. I'll have to try that link. Then again it might not work for me 
because I have a current subscription. 

The only free option I have without a subscription is for my state 
(Pennsylvania). I have to login through a special link to access state records, 
but it doesn't work through my tree which is what I use to search for records. 
I have to use the main search page through that link which I hate because I 
have to manually enter everything. To me it's not worth the trouble just 
because it's free. 

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:48 AM 
To: 'Legacy User Group'  
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com 

Brian and Bill 

There is a free account option. 
https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx 

But, I don't know if you can view public trees. 
I know that MOST of the searches and all of the "Hinting" is off limits until 
you begin to pay. 

Regards 
Henry 


-Original Message- 
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:28 AM 
To: Legacy User Group  
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com 

I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option. 

Brian Kelly 

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote: 
> Sorry. I meant to send this to Leonard only. Then again somebody else might 
> want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription. 
> 
> Bill Boswell 
> 
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM 
> To: 'Legacy User Group'  
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
> Legacy and Ancestry.com 
> 
> Leonard: 
> 
> Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland. She is 
> not attached to anyone. The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case 
> you find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell. 
> 
> Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work: 
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts 
> 
> Bill Boswell 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread William Boswell
Thank you.  I'll have to try that link.  Then again it might not work for me 
because I have a current subscription.

The only free option I have without a subscription is for my state 
(Pennsylvania).  I have to login through a special link to access state 
records, but it doesn't work through my tree which is what I use to search for 
records.  I have to use the main search page through that link which I hate 
because I have to manually enter everything.  To me it's not worth the trouble 
just because it's free.

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Henry T. Peterson Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:48 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

Brian and Bill

There is a free account option.
https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx

But, I don't know if you can view public trees.
I know that MOST of the searches and all of the "Hinting" is off limits until 
you begin to pay.

Regards
Henry


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option.

Brian Kelly

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:
> Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
> want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
> Legacy and Ancestry.com
>
> Leonard:
>
> Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
> not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case 
> you find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.
>
> Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts
>
> Bill Boswell


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread William Boswell
That answers the question.  It doesn't work without a subscription so nothing 
has changed.  I was curious to see if anyone could access it without a 
subscription.  I'm surprised the link worked because I didn't know where it 
would take you.


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option.

Brian Kelly

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:
> Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
> want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
> Legacy and Ancestry.com
>
> Leonard:
>
> Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
> not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case 
> you find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.
>
> Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts
>
> Bill Boswell


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread Elizabeth Lindsay
Hi,
As far as I am aware, you need to register by setting up a user name, and then 
you should be able to see any public trees, but you do not have access to 
sources or to do research. You do not have to provide any financial information 
or credit card information.
I have given invitation to many people over the years and, only recently, I had 
one person who had problems accessing my public ancestry tree.
Elizabeth

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Henry T. Peterson Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2017 8:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

Brian and Bill

There is a free account option.
https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx

But, I don't know if you can view public trees.
I know that MOST of the searches and all of the "Hinting" is off limits until 
you begin to pay.

Regards
Henry


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option.

Brian Kelly

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:
> Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
> want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
> Legacy and Ancestry.com
>
> Leonard:
>
> Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
> not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case 
> you find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.
>
> Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts
>
> Bill Boswell


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread Henry T. Peterson Jr.
Brian and Bill

There is a free account option.
https://secure.ancestry.com/Register?oldPath=/register/guestregistration.aspx

But, I don't know if you can view public trees.
I know that MOST of the searches and all of the "Hinting" is off limits until 
you begin to pay.

Regards
Henry


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided I got a 
"Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On that basis it 
looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account view public trees. I 
did not bother going beyond that to see if there is a Free account option.

Brian Kelly

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:
> Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
> want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.
>
> Bill Boswell
>
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
> Legacy and Ancestry.com
>
> Leonard:
>
> Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
> not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case 
> you find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.
>
> Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
> http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts
>
> Bill Boswell


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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-03 Thread Brian Kelly
I do not have an account with Ancestry.com. Using the link you provided 
I got a "Sign In to Ancestry" screen instead of viewing the person. On 
that basis it looks like Ancestry will not let anyone without an account 
view public trees. I did not bother going beyond that to see if there is 
a Free account option.


Brian Kelly

On 02-Jan-17 6:44 PM, William Boswell wrote:

Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.

Bill Boswell

From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

Leonard:

Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case you 
find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.

Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts

Bill Boswell



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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-02 Thread William Boswell
That’s what I thought, but somebody else on this list said you don’t have to be 
a subscriber to see public trees.  I was just trying to find out, but I’m a 
subscriber and would have access to other public trees so I can’t test this 
theory.  This person said they called Ancestry and they were told anybody could 
see public trees.

 

Ancestry does allow subscribers to some of their other genealogy websites to 
view public trees posted on Ancestry so this could have something to do with 
it.  Recently when I was a non-subscriber I tried to access a public tree and I 
received a message that I had to subscribe.

 

I do know people who I have invited who are not subscribers were able to access 
my tree whether public or private.  I don’t know if it’s still valid since 
Ancestry keeps changing the rules.

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 7:20 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

In Ancestry jargon the word “public” means “public only to other paid 
subscribers”. Non-subscribers get to see nothing…that includes both public and 
private trees.

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

Leonard:

 

Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case you 
find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.

 

Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

William Boswell, I don’t mind testing, as I am a member. Just email me and tell 
me who to search for to find your tree.

 

Leonard

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell mailto:whb02...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to 

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-02 Thread Brian Lightfoot
In Ancestry jargon the word “public” means “public only to other paid 
subscribers”. Non-subscribers get to see nothing…that includes both public and 
private trees.



Brian in CA





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.



Bill Boswell



From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



Leonard:



Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case you 
find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.



Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts



Bill Boswell



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



William Boswell, I don’t mind testing, as I am a member. Just email me and tell 
me who to search for to find your tree.



Leonard

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org



­

_



Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com



When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...



On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell  wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.



I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).



Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the exact same 
photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or online so I 
couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s name.



That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your tree.  
If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might do it for 
you.



Bill Boswell



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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-02 Thread William Boswell
Sorry.  I meant to send this to Leonard only.  Then again somebody else might 
want to see if they can access a public tree without a subscription.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: William Boswell [mailto:whb02...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:43 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

Leonard:

 

Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case you 
find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.

 

Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

William Boswell, I don’t mind testing, as I am a member. Just email me and tell 
me who to search for to find your tree.

 

Leonard

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell mailto:whb02...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the exact same 
photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or online so I 
couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s name.

 

That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your tree.  
If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might do it for 
you.

 

Bill Boswell

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-02 Thread William Boswell
Leonard:

 

Do a search for Jezebel Boswell who was born around 1869 in Maryland.  She is 
not attached to anyone.  The name of my tree is “Boswell Full 2016” in case you 
find any other trees that have Jezebel Boswell.

 

Here’s a link, but I don’t know if it will work:  
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/85597361/person/250054206328/facts

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:55 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

William Boswell, I don’t mind testing, as I am a member. Just email me and tell 
me who to search for to find your tree.

 

Leonard

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell mailto:whb02...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the exact same 
photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or online so I 
couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s name.

 

That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your tree.  
If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might do it for 
you.

 

Bill Boswell

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2017-01-02 Thread Leonard J. McCown
William Boswell, I don’t mind testing, as I am a member. Just email me and tell 
me who to search for to find your tree.

 

Leonard

leon...@mccown.org

 

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell  wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the exact same 
photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or online so I 
couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s name.

 

That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your tree.  
If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might do it for 
you.

 

Bill Boswell

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-28 Thread steven perkins
William:

You can put your tree at Rootsweb and then refer people to that one.

If you have done the atsomal DNA test at Ancestry, you can link those
results at Ancestry
to the pedigree at Rootsweb and people can see it free of charge and
without an Ancestry
or Rootsweb subscription.

http://searches.rootsweb.ancestry.com/share.html

Upload your family tree to the WorldConnect Project
<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/>, a database of family trees submitted
by thousands of RootsWeb.com researchers. There are currently more than
712,839,000 ancestor names. With your family tree posted here, other
researchers with common ancestors can find you.


Regards,
Steven





On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, William Boswell 
wrote:

> I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t
> have an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required
> to create an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with
> Ancestry I could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sandi Koscak
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy
> and Ancestry.com
>
>
>
> When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I
> was told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a
> membership... Maybe someone should test it...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell 
> wrote:
>
> It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be
> wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a
> membership to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about
> that all the time because they cannot see my public tree and only have a
> casual interest in genealogy.
>
>
>
> I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very
> well.  I always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know
> them or have been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free
> reign for someone to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what
> they’re doing or decide they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few
> of those lately).
>
>
>
> Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.
> She allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this
> guest invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them
> to a public tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the
> exact same photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or
> online so I couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s
> name.
>
>
>
> That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your
> tree.  If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might
> do it for you.
>
>
>
> Bill Boswell
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Graham Lambert
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:22 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy
> and Ancestry.com
>
>
>
> The other thing is that the 'notes' uploaded via gedcom to Ancestry are
> not viewable by ordinary Ancestry members.
>
> I assume this is correct because, Quoted from my tree - "Notes can only be
> viewed by the owner and by those invited to the tree as an 'Editor' "
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> On 28/12/2016 11:35 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
> Bill and others,
>
> 1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy.
> Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any field.
> Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported to gedcom
> or new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy options.
> [[anything in here is private]]
> So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or
> irrelevant or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or
> Source Detail text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.
>
> 2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
> When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this.
> When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this
> citation.
> When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to
> include those as par t of the Source.
> If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all those
> screens.
> These can be

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-28 Thread William Boswell
I couldn’t get it to work without first signing in.  Somebody who doesn’t have 
an account would be a better candidate, but I think you are required to create 
an account first.  Since I don’t keep an ongoing membership with Ancestry I 
could try it out after I get rid of my current membership.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell mailto:whb02...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the exact same 
photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or online so I 
couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s name.

 

That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your tree.  
If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might do it for 
you.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Graham Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

The other thing is that the 'notes' uploaded via gedcom to Ancestry are not 
viewable by ordinary Ancestry members. 

I assume this is correct because, Quoted from my tree - "Notes can only be 
viewed by the owner and by those invited to the tree as an 'Editor' "

Graham

 

On 28/12/2016 11:35 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Bill and others,

1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy. 
Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any field. 
Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported to gedcom or 
new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy options.
[[anything in here is private]]
So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or irrelevant 
or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or Source Detail 
text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.  

2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this. 
When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this 
citation.
When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to include 
those as par t of the Source.
If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all those 
screens.
These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by choosing 
your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to Apply to existing 
sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 7.3 those settings only 
apply to new sources.
THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online via 
Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source options ...
Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy

Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this. 
RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature as it's 
proving more difficult than first thought. 
These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.

Cathy

William Boswell wrote:


One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of 
them that there’s too many to go through individually.  I only mention 
this because there could be information that I do not want to share if 
it is going to a public tree

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-28 Thread William Boswell
They must have changed it again.  The only thing I had other people test was if 
an invited person can view my tree without a subscription.  I had the few who 
tried say that they could because it wasn’t possible before.  Ancestry keeps 
changing their rules.

 

I have a subscription so it may not work for me and my computer logs in 
automatically whether I like it or not.

 

I’ll see if I can do it today because I would be interested.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandi Koscak
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:10 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was 
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a 
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell mailto:whb02...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be 
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a membership 
to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about that all the time 
because they cannot see my public tree and only have a casual interest in 
genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.  I 
always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or have 
been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for someone 
to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what they’re doing or decide 
they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few of those lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.  She 
allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this guest 
invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to a public 
tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the exact same 
photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or online so I 
couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s name.

 

That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your tree.  
If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might do it for 
you.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Graham Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

The other thing is that the 'notes' uploaded via gedcom to Ancestry are not 
viewable by ordinary Ancestry members. 

I assume this is correct because, Quoted from my tree - "Notes can only be 
viewed by the owner and by those invited to the tree as an 'Editor' "

Graham

 

On 28/12/2016 11:35 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Bill and others,

1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy. 
Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any field. 
Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported to gedcom or 
new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy options.
[[anything in here is private]]
So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or irrelevant 
or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or Source Detail 
text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.  

2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this. 
When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this 
citation.
When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to include 
those as par t of the Source.
If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all those 
screens.
These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by choosing 
your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to Apply to existing 
sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 7.3 those settings only 
apply to new sources.
THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online via 
Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source options ...
Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy

Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this. 
RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature as it's 
proving more difficult than first thought. 
These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.

Cathy

William Boswell wrote:


One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of 
them that there’s too many t

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-28 Thread William Boswell
Thank you for the information, but I found adding brackets too time consuming 
especially for so many sources.

 

I had forgotten that I did include many of my sources.  I only excluded census 
and emails in my Legacy export because both were in dire need of cleaning up 
and it was taking years to accomplish.  I’m still not finished.

 

My public Ancestry tree is an example of what not to do when exporting and 
uploading if a data file isn’t first cleaned up.  Mine is a mess because FTM 
had no way to export to Legacy directly.  I believe the last version of FTM 
does allow exporting to Legacy’s native format.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:35 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

Bill and others,

1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy. 
Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any field. 
Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported to gedcom or 
new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy options.
[[anything in here is private]]
So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or irrelevant 
or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or Source Detail 
text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.  

2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this. 
When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this 
citation.
When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to include 
those as par t of the Source.
If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all those 
screens.
These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by choosing 
your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to Apply to existing 
sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 7.3 those settings only 
apply to new sources.
THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online via 
Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source options ...
Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy

Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this. 
RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature as it's 
proving more difficult than first thought. 
These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.

Cathy

William Boswell wrote:




One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of 
them that there’s too many to go through individually.  I only mention 
this because there could be information that I do not want to share if 
it is going to a public tree.  Emails would also have email addresses 
for living people who may not want their information shared.  And I 
have found I might have made a controversial remark in notes that a 
relative might see and take the wrong way (i.e. “so and so was an 
alcoholic”).

After much experience of exporting from Legacy to a GEDCOM then 
uploading to Ancestry I find it much better to leave all notes and 
sources out.  While it might be a headache later (and it is), if I 
have a lot of Ancestry sources it is better to reattach them on the 
other side since the uploaded ones would have to be deleted anyway.  
In a way it gives me a chance to “revisit” those ancest ors to see if 
further research is needed or new sources might be available.

I remember the days when we used Ancestry sources with images and they 
could be uploaded from Family Tree Maker.  Now Ancestry wants us to 
use their sources without our images.

Bill Boswell

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner
*Sent:* Monday, December 26, 2016 9:22 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to 
Legacy and Ancestry.com

Jerry,

If you have everything in Legacy and create a Gedcom and upload to 
Ancestry, it should include all your notes and sources unless you've 
chosen not to include them.
I don't upload notes or events to Ancestry but my sources upload for 
the vital events I send.

Cathy

Jerry Murphy wrote:


The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice. What I want to
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a
great deal of time keying everything in again. Another concern I have
is updating my Ancestry file. There may be a better way, but all I
know to do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new
gedcom file and upload it to Ancestry. Then I am faced with keying in
all tho se sources, Discussio

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-28 Thread Sandi Koscak
When I called ancestry, It was only for the question of public trees. I was
told that everyone can view your public tree and do not have to have a
membership... Maybe someone should test it...

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Boswell  wrote:

> It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be
> wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a
> membership to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about
> that all the time because they cannot see my public tree and only have a
> casual interest in genealogy.
>
>
>
> I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very
> well.  I always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know
> them or have been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free
> reign for someone to destroy my tree especially if they don’t know what
> they’re doing or decide they’re an expert on my own family (I’ve had a few
> of those lately).
>
>
>
> Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.
> She allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this
> guest invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them
> to a public tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the
> exact same photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or
> online so I couldn’t figure out why it was reposted under another person’s
> name.
>
>
>
> That’s something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your
> tree.  If you don’t make your information public then somebody else might
> do it for you.
>
>
>
> Bill Boswell
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Graham Lambert
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:22 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy
> and Ancestry.com
>
>
>
> The other thing is that the 'notes' uploaded via gedcom to Ancestry are
> not viewable by ordinary Ancestry members.
>
> I assume this is correct because, Quoted from my tree - "Notes can only be
> viewed by the owner and by those invited to the tree as an 'Editor' "
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> On 28/12/2016 11:35 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
> Bill and others,
>
> 1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy.
> Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any field.
> Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported to gedcom
> or new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy options.
> [[anything in here is private]]
> So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or
> irrelevant or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or
> Source Detail text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.
>
> 2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
> When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this.
> When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this
> citation.
> When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to
> include those as par t of the Source.
> If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all those
> screens.
> These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by
> choosing your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to
> Apply to existing sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 7.3
> those settings only apply to new sources.
> THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online via
> Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source options ...
> Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy
>
> Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
> Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this.
> RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature as
> it's proving more difficult than first thought.
> These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.
>
> Cathy
>
> William Boswell wrote:
>
>
> One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of
> them that there’s too many to go through individually.  I only mention
> this because there could be information that I do not want to share if
> it is going to a public tree.  Emails would also have email addresses
> for living people who may not want their information shared.  And I
> have found I might have made a controversial remark in notes that a
> relative might see and take the wrong way (i.e. “so and so was an
> alcoholic”).

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-28 Thread William Boswell
It was my understanding that a public tree reveals everything.  I could be
wrong about that since I cannot verify it since Ancestry requires a
membership to view public or private trees.  My relatives complain about
that all the time because they cannot see my public tree and only have a
casual interest in genealogy.

 

I would never give Editor privileges to anyone unless I know them very well.
I always give Guest to unknowns and Contributor if I personally know them or
have been trading with them for years otherwise Editor gives free reign for
someone to destroy my tree especially if they don't know what they're doing
or decide they're an expert on my own family (I've had a few of those
lately).

 

Your mention of invitees reminds me of a situation a distant cousin had.
She allowed someone to have access to her private tree not knowing this
guest invitee was stealing her information and photos then reposting them to
a public tree under her own name.  This distant cousin had given me the
exact same photos and information which I never shared with anybody else or
online so I couldn't figure out why it was reposted under another person's
name.

 

That's something to think about when somebody asks for an invite to your
tree.  If you don't make your information public then somebody else might do
it for you.

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Graham Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and
Ancestry.com

 

The other thing is that the 'notes' uploaded via gedcom to Ancestry are not
viewable by ordinary Ancestry members. 

I assume this is correct because, Quoted from my tree - "Notes can only be
viewed by the owner and by those invited to the tree as an 'Editor' "

Graham

 

On 28/12/2016 11:35 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Bill and others,

1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy. 
Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any field.
Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported to gedcom
or new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy options.
[[anything in here is private]]
So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or
irrelevant or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or
Source Detail text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.  

2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this. 
When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this
citation.
When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to include
those as par t of the Source.
If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all those
screens.
These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by choosing
your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to Apply to
existing sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 7.3 those
settings only apply to new sources.
THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online via
Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source options ...
Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy

Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this. 
RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature as
it's proving more difficult than first thought. 
These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.

Cathy

William Boswell wrote:




One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of 
them that there's too many to go through individually.  I only mention 
this because there could be information that I do not want to share if 
it is going to a public tree.  Emails would also have email addresses 
for living people who may not want their information shared.  And I 
have found I might have made a controversial remark in notes that a 
relative might see and take the wrong way (i.e. "so and so was an 
alcoholic").

After much experience of exporting from Legacy to a GEDCOM then 
uploading to Ancestry I find it much better to leave all notes and 
sources out.  While it might be a headache later (and it is), if I 
have a lot of Ancestry sources it is better to reattach them on the 
other side since the uploaded ones would have to be deleted anyway.  
In a way it gives me a chance to "revisit" those ancest ors to see if 
further research is needed or new sources might be available.

I remember the days when we used Ancestry sources with images and they 
could be uploaded from Family Tree Maker.  Now Ancestry wants us to 
use their sources without our images.


Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-27 Thread Graham Lambert
The other thing is that the 'notes' uploaded via gedcom to Ancestry are 
not viewable by ordinary Ancestry members.


I assume this is correct because, Quoted from my tree - "Notes can only 
be viewed by the owner and by those invited to the tree as an 'Editor' "


Graham


On 28/12/2016 11:35 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Bill and others,

1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy.
Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any 
field. Anything between the brackets is only 
printed/published/exported to gedcom or new Legacy file IF you 
override that element of the Privacy options.

[[anything in here is private]]
So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or 
irrelevant or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note 
or Source Detail text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.


2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this.
When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include 
this citation.
When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to 
include those as par t of the Source.
If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all 
those screens.
These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by 
choosing your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to 
Apply to existing sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 
7.3 those settings only apply to new sources.
THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online 
via Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source 
options ...

Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy

Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this.
RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature 
as it's proving more difficult than first thought.

These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.

Cathy

William Boswell wrote:


One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of
them that there’s too many to go through individually.  I only mention
this because there could be information that I do not want to share if
it is going to a public tree.  Emails would also have email addresses
for living people who may not want their information shared. And I
have found I might have made a controversial remark in notes that a
relative might see and take the wrong way (i.e. “so and so was an
alcoholic”).

After much experience of exporting from Legacy to a GEDCOM then
uploading to Ancestry I find it much better to leave all notes and
sources out.  While it might be a headache later (and it is), if I
have a lot of Ancestry sources it is better to reattach them on the
other side since the uploaded ones would have to be deleted anyway.
In a way it gives me a chance to “revisit” those ancest ors to see if
further research is needed or new sources might be available.

I remember the days when we used Ancestry sources with images and they
could be uploaded from Family Tree Maker.  Now Ancestry wants us to
use their sources without our images.

Bill Boswell

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Monday, December 26, 2016 9:22 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to
Legacy and Ancestry.com

Jerry,

If you have everything in Legacy and create a Gedcom and upload to
Ancestry, it should include all your notes and sources unless you've
chosen not to include them.
I don't upload notes or events to Ancestry but my sources upload for
the vital events I send.

Cathy

Jerry Murphy wrote:


The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice. What I want to
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a
great deal of time keying everything in again. Another concern I have
is updating my Ancestry file. There may be a better way, but all I
know to do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new
gedcom file and upload it to Ancestry. Then I am faced with keying in
all tho se sources, Discussions and Notes again. Unless there is a
better way to do this, I am required to key everything in again even
if all I am doing is editing information on one individual. I am
finding so much ludicrous information in FamilySearch (pe ople born
before their parents, etc.) that I spend half my time correcting
errors. Is there a way to update a few individuals in Ancestry
without keying everything in again?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks


On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:


do you really want to copy the

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-27 Thread Cathy Pinner

Bill and others,

1) It sounds as if you haven't discovered Privacy Brackets in Legacy.
Privacy Brackets are double square brackets that can be used in any 
field. Anything between the brackets is only printed/published/exported 
to gedcom or new Legacy file IF you override that element of the Privacy 
options.

[[anything in here is private]]
So as I add data I add privacy brackets if anything is sensitive or 
irrelevant or too long. eg I may add the whole email to an Event note or 
Source Detail text but then edit it with Privacy Brackets.


2)Also control what parts of sources are shared via Gedcom.
When you enter a Master Source you choose whether or not to include this.
When you enter specific Source Detail you choose whether to include this 
citation.
When you enter Source Detail Text or Comments, you choose whether to 
include those as part of the Source.
If you haven't realised that - take a look for the checkboxes on all 
those screens.
These can be globally reset from Options - Customise 7.2 and 7.3 by 
choosing your defaults for these checkboxes and then clicking Apply to 
Apply to existing sources. If you just change the default at 7.2 and 7.3 
those settings only apply to new sources.
THEN when you export to Gedcom as a way of publishing your data online 
via Ancestry or elsewhere, do not use the option to Override source 
options ...

Also do not use the Privacy Options to override Privacy

Family Tree Maker had a full sync with Ancestry.
Legacy doesn't. Legacy doesn't have access to Ancestry's API for this.
RootsMagic will but they have delayed the release of this new feature as 
it's proving more difficult than first thought.

These interactions are not easy. They're also not always desirable.

Cathy

William Boswell wrote:


One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of
them that there’s too many to go through individually. I only mention
this because there could be information that I do not want to share if
it is going to a public tree. Emails would also have email addresses
for living people who may not want their information shared. And I
have found I might have made a controversial remark in notes that a
relative might see and take the wrong way (i.e. “so and so was an
alcoholic”).

After much experience of exporting from Legacy to a GEDCOM then
uploading to Ancestry I find it much better to leave all notes and
sources out. While it might be a headache later (and it is), if I
have a lot of Ancestry sources it is better to reattach them on the
other side since the uploaded ones would have to be deleted anyway.
In a way it gives me a chance to “revisit” those ancestors to see if
further research is needed or new sources might be available.

I remember the days when we used Ancestry sources with images and they
could be uploaded from Family Tree Maker. Now Ancestry wants us to
use their sources without our images.

Bill Boswell

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Monday, December 26, 2016 9:22 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to
Legacy and Ancestry.com

Jerry,

If you have everything in Legacy and create a Gedcom and upload to
Ancestry, it should include all your notes and sources unless you've
chosen not to include them.
I don't upload notes or events to Ancestry but my sources upload for
the vital events I send.

Cathy

Jerry Murphy wrote:


The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice. What I want to
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a
great deal of time keying everything in again. Another concern I have
is updating my Ancestry file. There may be a better way, but all I
know to do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new
gedcom file and upload it to Ancestry. Then I am faced with keying in
all tho se sources, Discussions and Notes again. Unless there is a
better way to do this, I am required to key everything in again even
if all I am doing is editing information on one individual. I am
finding so much ludicrous information in FamilySearch (people born
before their parents, etc.) that I spend half my time correcting
errors. Is there a way to update a few individuals in Ancestry
without keying everything in again?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks


On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:


do you really want to copy the sources back and forth? Legacy,
Ancestry and FamilySearch all have different ways of writing
their
sources. If you copy them from one to the other, the formatting
won't match. I'd rather have a way to match up the sources
from one
to another, that is, in LegacyFamilySearch mode I could ma rk
sources
that show in FamilySearch Family Tree as the same as a particular
source in Legacy So I am able to confirm that I hav

Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-27 Thread William Boswell
One problem I have with notes and email sources is I have so many of them that 
there’s too many to go through individually.  I only mention this because there 
could be information that I do not want to share if it is going to a public 
tree.  Emails would also have email addresses for living people who may not 
want their information shared.  And I have found I might have made a 
controversial remark in notes that a relative might see and take the wrong way 
(i.e. “so and so was an alcoholic”).

 

After much experience of exporting from Legacy to a GEDCOM then uploading to 
Ancestry I find it much better to leave all notes and sources out.  While it 
might be a headache later (and it is), if I have a lot of Ancestry sources it 
is better to reattach them on the other side since the uploaded ones would have 
to be deleted anyway.  In a way it gives me a chance to “revisit” those 
ancestors to see if further research is needed or new sources might be 
available.

 

I remember the days when we used Ancestry sources with images and they could be 
uploaded from Family Tree Maker.  Now Ancestry wants us to use their sources 
without our images.

 

Bill Boswell

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 9:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and 
Ancestry.com

 

Jerry,

If you have everything in Legacy and create a Gedcom and upload to Ancestry, it 
should include all your notes and sources unless you've chosen not to include 
them. 
I don't upload notes or events to Ancestry but my sources upload for the vital 
events I send.

Cathy

Jerry Murphy wrote:




The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice.  What I want to 
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in 
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a 
great deal of time keying everything in again.  Another concern I have 
is updating my Ancestry file.  There may be a better way, but all I 
know to do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new 
gedcom file and upload it to Ancestry.  Then I am faced with keying in 
all tho se sources, Discussions and Notes again.  Unless there is a 
better way to do this, I am required to key everything in again even 
if all I am doing is editing information on one individual.  I am 
finding so much ludicrous information in FamilySearch (people born 
before their parents, etc.) that I spend half my time correcting 
errors.  Is there a way to update a few individuals in Ancestry 
without keying everything in again?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks


On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:




do you really want to copy the sources back and forth?  Legacy, 
Ancestry and FamilySearch all have different ways of writing their 
sources.  If  you copy them from one to the other, the formatting 
won't match.  I'd rather have a way to match up the sources from one 
to another, that is, in LegacyFamilySearch mode I could ma rk sources 
that show in FamilySearch Family Tree as the same as a particular 
source in Legacy So I am able to confirm that I have all the sources 
in both places, but not necessarily copied from one to the other.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Sherry mailto:hot.rod.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.

That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
order for the programmers to make the connection.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy
mailto:jmurp...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to inclu de an
option to
> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming
that is still
> true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than
re-keying them
> all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Jerry Murphy

Cathy,

That's interesting.  I must have missed something when setting up (no 
surprise!).  I'll take a look.


Thanks


On 12/26/2016 9:21 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Jerry,

If you have everything in Legacy and create a Gedcom and upload to 
Ancestry, it should include all your notes and sources unless you've 
chosen not to include them.
I don't upload notes or events to Ancestry but my sources upload for 
the vital events I send.


Cathy

Jerry Murphy wrote:


The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice.  What I want to
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a
great deal of time keying everything in again.  Another concern I have
is updating my Ancestry file.  There may be a better way, but all I
know to do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new
gedcom file and upload it to Ancestry.  Then I am faced with keying in
all tho se sources, Discussions and Notes again.  Unless there is a
better way to do this, I am required to key everything in again even
if all I am doing is editing information on one individual.  I am
finding so much ludicrous information in FamilySearch (people born
before their parents, etc.) that I spend half my time correcting
errors.  Is there a way to update a few individuals in Ancestry
without keying everything in again?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks


On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:


do you really want to copy the sources back and forth? Legacy,
Ancestry and FamilySearch all have different ways of writing their
sources.  If  you copy them from one to the other, the formatting
won't match.  I'd rather have a way to match up the sources from one
to another, that is, in LegacyFamilySearch mode I could ma rk sources
that show in FamilySearch Family Tree as the same as a particular
source in Legacy So I am able to confirm that I have all the sources
in both places, but not necessarily copied from one to the other.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Sherry mailto:hot.rod.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.

That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
order for the programmers to make the connection.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy
mailto:jmurp...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to inclu de an
option to
> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com. Assuming
that is still
> true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than
re-keying them
> all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Cathy Pinner

Jerry,

If you have everything in Legacy and create a Gedcom and upload to 
Ancestry, it should include all your notes and sources unless you've 
chosen not to include them.
I don't upload notes or events to Ancestry but my sources upload for the 
vital events I send.


Cathy

Jerry Murphy wrote:


The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice. What I want to
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a
great deal of time keying everything in again. Another concern I have
is updating my Ancestry file. There may be a better way, but all I
know to do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new
gedcom file and upload it to Ancestry. Then I am faced with keying in
all those sources, Discussions and Notes again. Unless there is a
better way to do this, I am required to key everything in again even
if all I am doing is editing information on one individual. I am
finding so much ludicrous information in FamilySearch (people born
before their parents, etc.) that I spend half my time correcting
errors. Is there a way to update a few individuals in Ancestry
without keying everything in again?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks


On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:


do you really want to copy the sources back and forth? Legacy,
Ancestry and FamilySearch all have different ways of writing their
sources. If you copy them from one to the other, the formatting
won't match. I'd rather have a way to match up the sources from one
to another, that is, in LegacyFamilySearch mode I could mark sources
that show in FamilySearch Family Tree as the same as a particular
source in Legacy So I am able to confirm that I have all the sources
in both places, but not necessarily copied from one to the other.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Sherry mailto:hot.rod.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.

That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
order for the programmers to make the connection.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy
mailto:jmurp...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an
option to
> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com. Assuming
that is still
> true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than
re-keying them
> all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry? Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread dwquigley
I do the same and feel much better about it.  Ancestry has many transcription 
errors that I want no part of.  Just give me the original record for 
downloading, which I am truly grateful for, but I will do the transcription 
myself and with more accuracy because I am closer to the individual than was 
the Ancestry transcriber.


 William Boswell  wrote: 
> They don't listen to their customers.  Even when I beta tested for them
> several times they didn't listen to us either and still incorporated the
> same bugs into their software.
> 
> I've been copying data from Ancestry to Legacy for years.  It's time
> consuming, but probably better than if Ancestry made it easier for us.  I
> prefer to do it right than have it done wrong by someone else's defective
> online database.
> 
> Bill Boswell
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Sherry
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 3:13 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and
> Ancestry.com
> 
> You could bug Ancestry about releasing the API to Legacy, but someone told
> me they don't listen to their customers!
> 
> Sherry
> 
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Murphy  wrote:
> > Sherry, I just saw your message.  I guess that's just the way it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/26/2016 12:11 PM, Sherry wrote:
> >>
> >> Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
> >> There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.
> >>
> >> That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in 
> >> order for the programmers to make the connection.
> >>
> >> Sherry
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option 
> >>> to easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that 
> >>> is still true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than 
> >>> re-keying them all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread William Boswell
They don't listen to their customers.  Even when I beta tested for them
several times they didn't listen to us either and still incorporated the
same bugs into their software.

I've been copying data from Ancestry to Legacy for years.  It's time
consuming, but probably better than if Ancestry made it easier for us.  I
prefer to do it right than have it done wrong by someone else's defective
online database.

Bill Boswell

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and
Ancestry.com

You could bug Ancestry about releasing the API to Legacy, but someone told
me they don't listen to their customers!

Sherry

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Murphy  wrote:
> Sherry, I just saw your message.  I guess that's just the way it is.
>
>
>
> On 12/26/2016 12:11 PM, Sherry wrote:
>>
>> Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
>> There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.
>>
>> That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in 
>> order for the programmers to make the connection.
>>
>> Sherry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option 
>>> to easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that 
>>> is still true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than 
>>> re-keying them all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Sherry
You could bug Ancestry about releasing the API to Legacy, but someone
told me they don't listen to their customers!

Sherry

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Murphy  wrote:
> Sherry, I just saw your message.  I guess that's just the way it is.
>
>
>
> On 12/26/2016 12:11 PM, Sherry wrote:
>>
>> Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
>> There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.
>>
>> That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
>> order for the programmers to make the connection.
>>
>> Sherry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to
>>> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is still
>>> true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than re-keying them
>>> all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Jerry Murphy

Sherry, I just saw your message.  I guess that's just the way it is.


On 12/26/2016 12:11 PM, Sherry wrote:

Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.

That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
order for the programmers to make the connection.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy  wrote:

The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to
easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is still
true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than re-keying them
all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Sherry
As I wrote before, without the API from Ancestry (which they will not
release), you can't do a direct share between Ancestry and Legacy.

Highlight and copy would be the only way, unless you want to type it in.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Jerry Murphy  wrote:
> The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice.  What I want to
> accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in
> FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a great
> deal of time keying everything in again.  Another concern I have is updating
> my Ancestry file.  There may be a better way, but all I know to do is import
> my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new gedcom file and upload it to
> Ancestry.  Then I am faced with keying in all those sources, Discussions and
> Notes again.  Unless there is a better way to do this, I am required to key
> everything in again even if all I am doing is editing information on one
> individual.  I am finding so much ludicrous information in FamilySearch
> (people born before their parents, etc.) that I spend half my time
> correcting errors.  Is there a way to update a few individuals in Ancestry
> without keying everything in again?
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:
>
> do you really want to copy the sources back and forth?  Legacy, Ancestry and
> FamilySearch all have different ways of writing their sources.  If  you copy
> them from one to the other, the formatting won't match.  I'd rather have a
> way to match up the sources from one to another, that is, in
> LegacyFamilySearch mode I could mark sources that show in FamilySearch
> Family Tree as the same as a particular source in Legacy So I am able to
> confirm that I have all the sources in both places, but not necessarily
> copied from one to the other.
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Sherry  wrote:
>>
>> Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
>> There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.
>>
>> That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
>> order for the programmers to make the connection.
>>
>> Sherry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy 
>> wrote:
>> > The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to
>> > easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is
>> > still
>> > true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than re-keying
>> > them
>> > all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Jerry Murphy
The word, "copy" may not have been the best choice.  What I want to 
accomplish is to have all of the sources, Discussions and Notes in 
FamilySearch also in Legacy and Ancestry without having to spend a great 
deal of time keying everything in again.  Another concern I have is 
updating my Ancestry file.  There may be a better way, but all I know to 
do is import my FamilySearch tree into Legacy, create a new gedcom file 
and upload it to Ancestry. Then I am faced with keying in all those 
sources, Discussions and Notes again.  Unless there is a better way to 
do this, I am required to key everything in again even if all I am doing 
is editing information on one individual.  I am finding so much 
ludicrous information in FamilySearch (people born before their parents, 
etc.) that I spend half my time correcting errors.  Is there a way to 
update a few individuals in Ancestry without keying everything in again?


Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks


On 12/26/2016 1:23 PM, Anne Lo Forte Willson wrote:
do you really want to copy the sources back and forth?  Legacy, 
Ancestry and FamilySearch all have different ways of writing their 
sources.  If  you copy them from one to the other, the formatting 
won't match.  I'd rather have a way to match up the sources from one 
to another, that is, in LegacyFamilySearch mode I could mark sources 
that show in FamilySearch Family Tree as the same as a particular 
source in Legacy So I am able to confirm that I have all the sources 
in both places, but not necessarily copied from one to the other.


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Sherry > wrote:


Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.

That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
order for the programmers to make the connection.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy
mailto:jmurp...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an
option to
> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com. Assuming that
is still
> true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than
re-keying them
> all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Anne Lo Forte Willson
do you really want to copy the sources back and forth?  Legacy, Ancestry
and FamilySearch all have different ways of writing their sources.  If  you
copy them from one to the other, the formatting won't match.  I'd rather
have a way to match up the sources from one to another, that is, in
LegacyFamilySearch mode I could mark sources that show in FamilySearch
Family Tree as the same as a particular source in Legacy So I am able to
confirm that I have all the sources in both places, but not necessarily
copied from one to the other.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Sherry  wrote:

> Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
> There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.
>
> That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
> order for the programmers to make the connection.
>
> Sherry
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy 
> wrote:
> > The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to
> > easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is still
> > true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than re-keying them
> > all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Sherry
Any transfer of data between Ancestry and Legacy must be keyed in.
There is no way to do a direct transfer either way.

That's all up to Ancestry - they need to release an API to Legacy in
order for the programmers to make the connection.

Sherry


On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jerry Murphy  wrote:
> The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to
> easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is still
> true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than re-keying them
> all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.
>
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[LegacyUG] Copying Sources from FamilySearch.org to Legacy and Ancestry.com

2016-12-26 Thread Jerry Murphy
The last I heard, Legacy was still not allowed to include an option to 
easily copy FamilySearch sources to Ancestry.com.  Assuming that is 
still true, is there a way to get sources transferred other than 
re-keying them all into Legacy or directly into Ancestry?  Thanks.


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